OG Westside Crips on being railroaded on very first Crips murder trial of Robert Ballou (pt.2of2)
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Big Bob and Judson Bacot
Part 1: • Original Westside Crip...
Part 2: • OG Westside Crips on b...
Original Westside Crips, Bobby Crear aka Big Bob The Hawk and Judson Bacot talk about being railroaded in their 1st degree murder trial. In 1972, they went on trial with 2 other Westside Crips for the murder of Robert Ballou, who was beat-up after his friend, Charles Alexander was robbed for his leather coat. Guess which future famous attorney was checking out the trial of Bob & Judson back in 1973 when they went on trial?
Interview Date: July 29, 2013
Location: St Andrews Park, South Los Angeles
Contact Judson Baycot: / judson.bacot
Big Bob and Judson Bacot
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That's so sad that that young man Robert Ballou was murdered. If we believe these two guys then they didn't do it and the young man ran into the group of Crips and they beat him to death. Regardless of who killed the young man, he's dead and it's sad. Been dead for 47 years and all he did was want to go to a concert. Sad for his family too. Wonder if his parents are still alive now? Maybe they are maybe in their 80s.
Man, that's crazy: Bacot said he doesn't have no OGs - he IS the OG. That's powerful. Wish the Community Revolution In Progress would go back to that first C but it seems forever broken now... Respect.
CAAAAARRRIPPP!#
Bruh you make me wanna smack you that's not what crip means.
Ghggg community or california were both interchangeable depending on what set you banged, so my mans is right.
Diff.def in diff regions
read this right when he was talkin about that
Alex, your work is to be commended .... it is simply exemplary.
best video so far you uploaded. much respect
I grew up in Pomona,Ca, 25 miles east of L.A......In high school in the early 70's. Had me a grey waist length leather coat. All we wore was leather coats, kakis and levis and you had to have a pair of croca-saks from Zodys. First crip gang started in P-town around 75 or 76 on the westside....called themselves the357 Block Crips which later became just Tray-five-Seven.
robocop207 it was founded by a member of the main st boys Richard miles
@@thechamp818dst supposedly richard miles younger relatives who were never anti-crips started that and Richard miles himself never turned crip, he was already done with the gang life at that point. I don't know how true it is but it sounds more plausible then an anti crip starting a crip set in a small town outside of LA
Actually the first gang on the west side (sin town) was called the cobras, Herby Douglas, Peter Wilson, Tim Casey...etc. They didn't last too long and after that came the 357. I grew up on that side of town and never heard of Richard Miles.
At the end when they speak on who Tookie was to them... that right there speaks volumes on who these guys really are. The man who every banger looks up to as a gangbang 'god' so to speak, is their LIL homie. lol You cant get anymore original than that!
Jersey Mac these cats are older....if you grew up in the hood who do you look up to...the older cats...it’s not like you came out the pussy banging bruh...these guys are from the precripping era...they might not be the founders but for Raymond Washington and his boys to come on over from the east to fight these guys you know they was someone to be reckoned with...
Quadruple OGs
original old school crips may be from a specific Area where a race of crips claim, but they old school crips about crip unity.
I remember my big cousins from Deverlane boys talking about that incident and how the Compton Crips did that!
It’s crazy how you can have dozens of people see what actually happen bit since none of them will speak to the police they got the wrong guys over and over again. The “no snitching” policy is quite the double edged sword.
Man I need some more interviews from these guys
Real OG's, much respect. You can see it on their faces, they never intended it to become what it is today. Keep it old school.
That man say its like a prison yard in tha streets damn Rip big bob💯✅
@streetgangs Alex I had an idea where you do interviews with big homies and young homies from two rival hoods and get their take on the war why it started how it could have been avoided and things of that nature.Hope you read this I'd like to see this come to fruition
@6:42 he speaks the truth. Rap has glamorized that as a good thing but in reality, its one of the scariest things an innocent man can go thru in life
Big Bob looks so wise that if I was talking to him, he could answer any question I had to ask him!
You can see the wisdom and knowledge in his seemingly always serious face and he's always looking around him.
"BIG BOB ADMITTED HE WAS SENDING THEM NIGGAZ OUT...HE SAID YALL STUPID ENOUGH TO DO IT, GONE AND DO IT"
I noticed in the first video Bacot said The one dude ran in to a crowd of Compton Crips. And also said Mac Thomas name. These dudes were serve time for a crime they didn’t do! Wow justice system is messed up.
Brandon Butts they witnessed the whole thing and likely wouldn’t snitch. And the cops charged them all. That’s not unfair. That’s how being a criminal works.
If you don’t snitch shut the fuck up and do the time.
From 8:00 on real truth, and on I remember WSG, I was a maybe 5-7 years OLD.,.,a child of St. Andrews. Cardinals of the late 60's early 70's...BlACK MAMBAS, AND THEN THE WARRIORS....Love you and miss you...Son of Jody, Little brother of DA
OK. first he didn't want anybody to know "cuz" is then say his name then dude said
his full name. where is the street code.
They never said his full name Alonzo said it, not them.
They civilians now they have know street code there street code is straight though, because going to prison for murder an didn't say anything about who really did says a hell of a lot about there G CODE !!!!
Man stfu lmfaoo what the hell are you talking about
If the net result of gang life is DEATH OR JAIL, why join? Mind you, I say this because I want a different outcome for young black and latino males. This lifestyle is a deathstyle. If you are a young gang member, reading this, I hope you take this to heart: your life is worth something, you are special, and capable of great things. If we can make it out of slavery, you can make it out of gang life. Go to school & May God bless you.
Sharpeeyewashington go buy a water filter
STOP UR STOP the violence speech
what's a hum bird?
Triple OGs and Double OGs cool with each other now regardless of what side they claim.
This is low key like the central park 5
Wow .... the untold story ... Dam.... real shit
Rip Big Bob East Coast love
How can one of this dudes get 12 yrs and one do 7 yrs?? Same crime right?
dis some of da realest shit i heard bout crip history
I swear out of towners need to tune in im a original from baltimore started this shit when i was 13 wish my older homies new how this really started ive lost alot of childhood friends to jail the streets n jus being mislead
mskeishapac I.thank he was just really agree with just about everything he said I think that's all it was..
much love OGs
Airplane flying over at 9:20 tells me this was filmed at an Inglewood park
Kelvin Trice Nope, St. Andrews Park in Los Angeles
***** you need to interview OG simpson the real founder of the Crips
YOUNG 01KNOWS it been to long streetgangs. Here the real now
He told his story already there are a lot of interviews with him and documentaries
boi
everything evolves give it some respect, new people new taste
This is awesome work. I could never imagine in my lifetime hearing or seeing two of the most and truest originals speak on gang culture and how it really started. Same then as it is now, THE MEDIA PLAYS THE BIGGEST ROLE IN AFFECTING THE PUBLICS PERCEPTION OF ANY INCIDENT! TRUE OR FALSE
Even though these guys are crips...real OGs...they are really pre crips....if you wanna know about crips as the way we know them now...you have to talk to guys younger than them..I say atleast 5 years younger if not more...feel me?still would like to see more interviews from them
Old people go to the park it's normal u clown
first crips in the world respect yo
Jessica Lili Louinsky Petelo that s GANGSTA 🐰🐰🐰3X
This 14 mins is better then any documentary I've seen about crips. They said (with out dissing) Tookie was the little homie and he could tell them shit. This is too real for You Tube!!! I'd a paid to hear this story.
look at all that water being wasted in the background
Damn Tookie was there little homie and that's because those guys were born in the late 40s while Raymond and Tookie were born in the early 50s !!!! Bacot said I am the big homie!
These OG's are right about people not knowing what it's truly like until you are actually facing 10 or 20 to life. I've been there and it aint no joke. On a Fed case for drug conspiracy. I was facing a mandatory minimum of 10 to LIFE. But because I had a prior felony that I did two years for prior to this, I was facing 20 to life because of an enhancement for the prior. I saw no hope and I took my case to trial. All my Homies SNITCHED on me. They ALL testified at my trial and got sweet deals off my back. I hired a boss attorney who happened to get me a hung jury. If you don't know, it's almost impossible to win a case or get a hung jury in a Fed case. They have a 97% conviction rate, no lie. But instead of taking the risk again, I plead out and took the 10. And when I say 10, I mean 10. You have to do 85% on Fed time but you only get credit for the year AFTER the year is complete. So I had to do almost the whole 10. After that, I did 5 years probation after I got back home to Cali (Tha Bay). And they make it real easy to go back on a violation too. They put me in a half way house at 111 Turk St in the Tenderloin district, downtown SF. Right in the heart of the hood. I would sit in the window of my room and watch all the vice and violence going down everywhere around me. Saw some shootings, much prostitution, drug dealing open 24/7. I could tell from past experience who was doing what and what local mini marts were laundering the little corner boys money. Came back from a visit with my wife once. Stopped at a corner store to get a soda. When I came out I saw a robbery in progress. A couple goons had another fool held at gunpoint about 15 feet from me. Had to put my wife on the other side of my body in case they got to poppin off. They locked eyes with me and I knew they would have killed that dude if we had not stepped outside at that moment. I thought for a min that they would kill us all to leave no witnesses. I got my wife in the charger quick as I could and got outta there, back to the halfway house. Shit out there aint no joke. People need to be aware that the game is fucked up now. Everybody snitching, Feds handing out life sentences for drugs. I did 12 years total not including county time. About the same amount of time these OG Crips did for murder.
These two guys say they didn't have anything to do with the Ballou killing, okay. Maybe true. Regardless of whether true or not it's interesting someone can be convicted of murder and get out eventually and live their lives. Interesting some people get life without parole and some get paroled.
Watts good truth is right der cuz ppl get on here. Hate respect others stop banging on the net it makes u look stupid respect the Og's
wow he lived dam he lived throu blood vs crips in 80s 90s probley saw 2pac
Snopp did murder was the case BEFORE his real case. That's why you can hear the change in his music after that.
No he didn't fool.
Rest In Peace big bob
Snoop DID have a murder case
@Bill Blass No ones saying Snoop was a gangsta fam, I'm just pointing out that dude had a murder charge.
crispinfrancis1 he didn’t do it it was his body guard they just tired to scare him doesnt Homboy ::
bloods? yeah they wear red. i was like whuuut? crips wear blue. i was like what?
they are just telling their story which a lot of people want to hear they are in the park being interviewed not just hanging out..and how the fuck would you know if they have a houses or jobs..maybe you should grow up or just not watch if its not interesting to you! pretty simple
True OGs
RIP big Bob
Gotta salute
Real OG's
R. I. C. OG Bacot ETGC NNS R60K
2 real for ppl to handle
I TELL WHAT I WAS WITH A CREW BUT I WAS THE TYPE TO LEREN FROM EVERBODYS MISTAKES SO I DID BUT I DID IT THE WAY THEY WAS Supposed to do it and I got way with it and my was like damn u made I got my stipes. That way but got the point I said why em doing this I better stop before my luck runs out beat atenolol murder got away that day I said anuff
They're very well spoken are the first generation you notice they've never used the N term not once I can recall in the entire interview.
I don't think they even really cuss at all, you can tell they were raise different were the first generation of Crips from the 1960's.
Guess he don't know that snoop dog was fighting a murder case when he made murder was the case!
No colors? No sets? Just one crip umbrella.
Why my man sound like Snoop Dogg tho?
@jsmooth264 that's a dope idea, cuhz
facts
I wish I had something to do with it lol. We call that a free case, and the police broke my ribs and planted a gun on me. I just chalked it up for the things I got away with.
Haha these guys are great, they told a good story, you didn't have to say anything
Bacot from the 83 gangster crips
Nikki Rose no he's not
Where then??? That is the hood he was claiming when he came home because he grew up there even though that set didn't exist when he went to prison.
Nikki Rose, Bacot has a younger brother who was one of the original 83 gangsters. He's in the documentary "Outlaw Empire: Crips".
Jersey Hoggz You are absolutely right, his brother was Sidewinders age.
Jersey Hoggz yes Justin out of younger brother named Jeffrey who was a very good dude he was very very respected and respectable let's respect rest in peace you will love you as the world
No one from the pen ever did nothing, haha. Some how people just wind up dead, but no one killed them!
WOWW! They say Johnnie Cochran was in the court everyday..so this in a way was connected to da OJ trial
Real homeboyz .. Everybody TOOK THERE OWN LICK !! SALUTE ...
ecaxtly
why does the skinny one repeat every thing the other one says? He doeesn't have a mind of his own
thanks u I was waiting for someone to say that
They old they both repeat what each other day.
bitch maybe because they talking about the same fuckin thing they use to crip together they telling the same story that's how u know they not lying
BomptonMadeMeDoIt I was thinking the same thing
mskeishapac bitch they old if they repeat they fucking repeat and they both og crips.
r.i.p the original leader Stanley tookie
I did time for a robbery I had no knowledge of until I was arrested for it. Life as black male in California, I guess.
I don't doubt they may be innocent but then again I don't doubt that after all these years they may be also embarrassed about the whole Ballou incident. After all they the young man was killed over a jacket or at least that's how the story is retold.
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Telling the real tho !
It's sad to know that I consider myself broke yet have more money than both these niggas combined.
Not hatting, just pointing out that there is more to do with your life than investing your time down dead ends.
they are old men but they act like young
first crips in the world respect yo
first crips in the world respect yo
first crips in the world respect yo