A.C. "King Bobalouie" Moses on impact Craig Monson's "Avenues" had on original Crips (pt.1of2)
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SOUTH LOS ANGELES - Between 1967 - 1969, the Avenues gangs led by Craig Munson on the eastside of South Los Angeles is the gang AC "Bobalouie" Moses and other eastside youth looked up too. They even claimed to be Baby Avenues even though the Munson brothers never approved of that identity. After getting completely shunned by the Avenues gang, a disappointed Raymond Washington decided to start his own gang, the Crips, in the fall of 1969 and A.C. Moses was there.
Date: March 2017
Location: Los Angeles
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AC Moses, aka King Bobalouie is a first generation Crip and later became a Piru member in Compton. Be sure to check out his book: bit.ly/2ntJ4EW
streetgangs joined It ? Or Started?
streetgangs hood hope... Street gangs sucks
He is a first generation Crip, and in 1969 and 1970 there was no beef between Piru and Crips, and your analogy is a bad one.
Alex A. Alonso yo A. ain't it fucked up how clowns say that they want the truth but when they get the truth THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. (JACK NICHOLSON VOICE)
Dumb ass pay attention to the video next time.
always dope to hear the OGs speak
thanks for watching
Lol 😂 Kevin mac already posted an interview Witt him
so they both do good work
Ike 9 they both can't interview him? stop hatin
He more than a OG he TRIPLE OG . bruh .
this guy has a good memory
he remembers names very well, but some of his timeline is off.
theinfamous 123 he was there...
Alex A. Alonso And you was there right?
A damn good memory!
Legendary
I have to admit growing up in a 107 Hoover neighborhood I really wasn't familiar with the Avenues. Once in the late 70s I went to get my hair cut by the Kmart near Hollywood Park. Some older kids (a lot of them) checked me in the parking lot and asked me if I was "Family". I said, "I don't know. What's your last name"? That didn't go over too well because they thought I was being disrespectful. Honestly, word hadn't traveled back to my block yet and truthfully even then, you didn't just wander around block to block without a reason. Which is my point, You knew what your boundaries were and stayed in them. It's a sad way to live. Thankfully my kids don't have to live that way.
Lets get that OG 107 Hoover story.
I was never in the cut' so to speak. I live in Portland now. I lived around the corner from Moo Moo but he was closer to my older sisters age so I don't recall much about him except, stay out the way. I remember when his brother Andre got killed and the women of the neighborhood surrounding his mother with love. I remember having to fight for my Bret Harte band jackets 1978ish because they were black and blue. The baby Crips always wanted them. Bret Harte on 92/Hoover in the 70s was no joke. After we moved in 1980s to West Covina and Riverside the grandson of one ladies across the street became pretty big dealers. Some murders took place in the mid 90s over an FBI arrest to some of the younger guys on the street (105th/Hoover). Also, one of the grandsons she had was a prison guard and he got arrested over some stuff related to his cousins.The people I knew I remember by their real names, but there was a Pookie, June Bug, & Boo but I can't say were my friends on any level. There was guy off Figueroa/105th that always chased me with his Doberman because I live on the wrong side of Hoover. I got my ass kicked by Sammy Jones once when I was 14. He was 18. Not much of a fight. Good times. I couldn't go to Washington high because someone stuck a pistol in my chest and said I was either in the Hoovers or out. I end up going to Narbonne. I always steered clear. Good luck to those in the game but I'm 53 now and doing pretty good. Even though I know some people might have something to say.
I appreciate the history your channel provides. Not to glorify senseless violence, but I hope people realize there are too many black men that should be alive today. The last episodes really hit home.
what year did Andre get killed?
It was the late 70s. Maybe 1977/78. Killings happened but it was a big deal. As I recall it was on 106th/Vermont in front of the old telephone company. They only lived a few houses down. I believe he was only 16. That prompted my mother to start looking for a new area. I have a younger brother.
Kevin X Check out the interview with OG Hawk on Kev Macs Channel, he speaks about that young mans death, I think he said it was 78
Craig Munson was a big boy ! They said Tookie was his little man or work out partner and he dwarfed Tookie in size
glad he straitened the origin of the name crip those nerd cops frm gangland swore they knew everything
1lifestyle lol
i got a feeling that its still not straightened out.
Cah-riiiiip hey cuz yo baccground red! Change it cuh
Cut yo' natural off if you really wit the shitz mayne!
He doest straighen shit out, its basically just one more version, that can be true or untrue like any other version, i dont see how his account is the gospel truth and more believable then any other version of wäre the crips name came from
Nice work as always Alonso.! Great interview! so impressed with King Bobalouie's ability to remember in such details this history. Waiting on part two!
thanks for watching.
Love how you film your interviews. Feels more like art, the camera set up, how it's edited and questioned. You should put a feature length documentary out.
thanks for watching. For those who don't know, we shoot with two cameras, and we capture 2 audio tracks, all the footage is full HD (1080) so it takes awhile to edit, lots of importing footage, audio, etc. Thanks again.
you & keV Mac should put together the ultimate hood documentary I'm glad u brothers respect each other's lanes salute too both of you brothers and I'm a young nigga saying that I would like to hear more about the og in the game not struggling rappers who part time bang ..
Good Interview
thank for watching
BEST INTERVIEW!
LOVE IT!
we appreciate you calling.
That nih even got O.G. KNUCKLES!
Alley Boy Hell yeah.. lol
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Great video!!! Awesome history!!!
Keep it coming Street Gangs
thanks you sir
man I can listen to the OG talk all day he remind me of my pops bac with all them stories & name dropping😂😂😂 my pop a little bit older then him cause my pops was 19 in 1969
U and kev mac got these gang interviews on lock!!
Hey man. Are you going to do a video following up on h crowns case? I seen the video you uploaded of the high speed chase but I haven't heard anything since.
best episode thus far Alex i wanted to keep watching this interview should have been a hour. he dropped alot of history.
thanks for watching the channel.
+Alex A. Alonso facts you already know alex keep them videos coming.
Good interview AC has a great memory for even the smallest detail relating to the B and C..
Great interview! These are the guys we want to hear from, not them young knuckle heads that don't know their history. Good job
Max max you say you want to hear from these guys but y'all don't support these OG interviews because the view count on these rarely reaches 100,000 views. So you may be speaking for a minority when you say that, but we'll continue to bring these interviews. Thanks for watching.
The Richard Miles story was especially interesting. Also, he's a good story teller. He had my attention the entire interview. I want to get his book.
thanks for checking out the interview.
I love to hear these real OGs talk. R.I.P. to Raymond Burns. Raymond was one of the realest OGs I ever knew. He used to hang with my uncle Johnny Boyd (I miss you Unc... R.I.P.) 👍
now this is what I like to see, OGS telling it how it is and was. dope interview , you should interview my pops , he from ESKCG 87TH ST. he got hella stories and knowledge...he even made a song with king T and mc eiht
Knowledge?
@@johntaparnell847 street knowledge/ game whatever you wanna call it
That was a good one Alex!
thanks for checking us!
Early 70s you could identify crips
By shaved heads and a earing in the left ear that's fact
You know whats crazy the youngsterz in Dallas Texas are wearing cross earrings for Player Status
yo please tell me there is a part 2 of this shit. this was one of the best you have done so far .
Yeah, I got another one being edited right now.
Alex A. Alonso Alex you failed
donney zeinn lol
will part 2 this week. thanks for watching.
This is your best Interview EVER Alex....
Thanks, but if it is the best, I would expect it to reach a larger audience. Check the view count in this.
whats the best seldom gets then recognition they deserve lets go see how many views Justin Bieber has for that bullshit he over there doing.....trust me this is a top tier interview....hit me with your email i still got some ideas i wanna run past you!!!
So is there 2 versions the los avenues n then craigs avenues?
soo raymon washington was like lil ze from city of god
southside mils expect he with no guns. Just his hands.
OG's
That's what I also gathered from the Crip, Piru and Bloods of the late 60s and 70s, they were living the reality of the City of God Movie, vicious street fights, free range gun battles and poor law enforcement. That movie was also based on the favelas in the early 70s and the hoods and hoodstars of that era in the Favelas/slums of Rio Dejaneiro in Brazil.
Interesting to hear where that Gangsta stroll 🚶 we all used do as kids came from south Central and Compton!! 😂 lol
How the hell this channel only has 130K subscribers ? This channel should have at least 1M right now. Great content.
J.R. Brooklyn we got 131 thousand now, we'll get there
Man OG right here got some of the ashiest hands i have ever seen but this definitely one of your best videos
890flyer 😂
890flyer real men don’t use lotion.
890flyer Ashy?Hard working
Aye that’s what happens when your constantly putting knuckles on niggas jawlines. Shits get a little ashy b
lmfao
Woooo you outdone yoself Alex! This cat a legend
thanks for watching,
Avenues is just one of many Ruthless gangs that existed before the B & C Alliances came about.
L.A had Black gangs since the 20's
***** Black gangs in L.A came together to protect themselves against White racist gangs like the Spookhunters.
So Black gangs and other races of gangs had different agendas from the start.
#Facts that's what these Chicago Fucks can't understand that #LA always our own history ! Southern x California .
357 Red this hood aint no fucking avenues the real avenues gang is NORTHEAST VARRIO AVENUE'S this fools are unknown non factors
terrorizer NELA Ask any Tripple OG Mexicans who banged in the 60s or who was locked up in San Quentin during 70s about Craig Monson they'll let you know punk, the Mexican avenues was nothing compared to The Black Avenues that's like comparing gladiators to horse jockeys , wasn't no Mexicans going head up with a guy was 6'2 with 20 inch arms
Clayton Roberts foo shut your bitch uninformed ass up your fucking stupid varrio avenues gang has been banging since the oldest come to north east los angeles and get dealt with.
what's up with Part 2? It's been 2 weeks already.
Great Interview from a Legend during those days. However, if you turn on closed caption (subtitles), it is a comedy show.
just a request, could you possibly link up with activehoodrich for a look into LA car culture, live from Crenshaw on Sundays
I tried to reach out to him a couple times a while back, but since I was unsuccessful I kept it pushin.
Street hands and Kev Mac giving the history right now. good shit.
I went to Bethune back 98 n I lived on 77 n San Pedro that was a long walk all the east coast crips wee deep back i n the day
I love the OG stories!
Do top 10 most dangerous housing projects
in LA?
streetgangs yessir
+streetgangs any upcoming interview in Washington state
Damn, funny thing is, I just watched a video just now with the 10 most dangerous housing projects
JW M yeah Cali cats know about the hilltop crips
Finally comes the real. StreetGangs u did it 💯
wow! finally? really?
Alex A. Alonso 😂he sleep on u big bruh
I'd expect such an answer or response from some of the viewers but from you? SMH. If the adults are as bad as the young where does the young go for guidance of how conduct themselves in a back in forth?
I grew up around that I went to Bethune and I used to see them walking up and down San Pedro like that and some of them even used to walk with canes
This man has an amazing memory. I can’t remember more than 4 names from my jr high school.
Powerful!!!! Man I was into like a movie much respect brotha Alex
thanks for watching, appreciate it.
I like these old gangster interviews
Dammmnn so many false documentaries I didn't know cribs was just a misspelling. Hey man you gotta keep intervewing the ogs before they die out soon bruh this is golden history.
deep shit...very informative
I'm thirsty AF for a Part 2 on this.
#VeryEntertaining
Give us a few days to put out part two. We have to do some serious editing to get it right.
Can u get a interview with Munson!
streetgangs so I see that you're trying to steal KEV MAC formula. its too late he has what you lacc.
REAL ONE stfu bitch!
he also has a book: bit.ly/2ntJ4EW
They need to make a movie on the beginnings of Crips & Bloods/Piru
Deathrow Legacy Made in America
Jay Cruz i mean actual movie like how they did with Straight outta Compton and the 2pac/Big movie
Oo I see gotcha
@@ricanking20 thất really wasn't thất good.
💯
I think raymond got kill by the crips , not all crips wanted to acknowledge that
I always wondered why in almost all the OG interviews from all the different platforms they never ask, they never know or they always shy away from answering who killed Raymond Washington, But they always want to talk about the man and Crip history but not his death or who might have killed him I guess that's a well kept Crip history secret.
@Chino Nguyen facts
@@j.r.fromthabay3944 dude
Shut up
Nobody knows who killed him
Hence nobody arrested or charged or convicted
Fuck
@@DarronMoe it’s pretty common knowledge he got killed by Crips, it’s said to they were Hoovers. Raymond was losing control of the Crips, and the direction they were going around the time of his death.
@@EarsTotheStreetsMedia him and bulldog had static
Man where to rest of this video.
in every interview, nobody I mean NOBODY disputes what he says. He's definitely a true OG HISTORIAN
respect!
King ac is by far the greatest ever man... respect mr ac ... years later I'm listening to your interview.... respect 3X OG
I remember seeing the Avenues l time only: Brims was at a party in, "72" after Lil Kountry's death, (Big Country, Elgin, Curtis Ray & maybe 25 r more Brims) this party was off of Broadway in the 60's, few cars pulled up and maybe 20-30 look like Lil Men (of course I was high, so, I really thought they were midgets) came walking towards the party. I remember hearing Brotha Brim Elgin say, "BABY AVENUES," and I thought they looked to old to be banging. Nothing happened, they strolled around the party, then left. Everybody was on pins & needles.
Craig Monson, the leader of the Avenues, went to prison for murder in 1970, and Donnie Boy was in prison too, and the Baby Avenues were trying to keep it going.
THIS WAS A VERY POWERFUL INTERVEIW, ME BEING A PIRU FROM THE EAST KOAST, I LOVE TO FOLLOW UP ON MY HISTORY AN ROOTS, HISTORY IS VERY IMPORTANT, WHY BANG IF U don't KNOW HISTORY, SALUTE TO THE REAL G'Z WHO PAVED THE WAY FOR YG'Z LIKE MYSELF. BY THE WAY ALEX YOU SHOULD REALLY KOME OUT HERE TO NJ An interview us, it's real out here and we hella deep... E/S I.M.G 1700 Blk
Your not Piru sir. Damn this for you to understand that it was bullshit! Damn, you love to follow up on your history. Your not a Piru.
i been rockin with streetgangs.com since the early 2000s when we had the slow internet with the phonelines
That's, waz cool good jod from Oxnard ca.
My Dad was born in 1934 and he grew up on parmalee and nadau and went to Jefferson High. My Dad and his bestfriend would always tell me about fights they had growing up with bumper jacks. My Dads bestfriend L.C use to own AL's Liquor store on Fig & 103rd. Alex do you know what gang was in the area of Parmalee and Nadau around the time my Dad was coming up?
BSTRONG6485 That was Slausons.
BSTRONG6485 That was Slausons turf.
what years?
One of your best vids Alex, top 5 for me, quadruple OG. This interview represents the essence of your body of work. History
thanks for checking the channel. We got some more coming.
1:49. AC first met the Miles family all those years ago at 77th & Broadway. On a lot of these videos I pull up Google street maps (probably a lot safer that way, huh?) to see what these places (meetings, death scenes-like Ray Washington at San Pedro &E 64th) look like today.The first thing I see at 77th & Broadway NOW is a police station! Fittingly it might seem. It seems to take up the entire block, and it still probably needs to expand, ha ha.
*You should see if you could reach out to CT Fletcher. He was around during this era. I recall him mentioning Munson and Miles in an interview.*
Who's miles?
His cousin Miles? Would that be the same one?
When you say Avenues aren't you talking about the east L.A. gang that had a rivalry with the Cypress gang in the '70's & early '80's?
No they are talking about crip ....
Junior Myles is C.T. Fletchers uncle!!!!
oh shit lmao
Real shit
so that would explain the crip walk then rite ??
Seems so, that limp that Raymond and them had, come from the Avenues.
so what gang was the avenues??
They were the Avenues, that was their name.
Alex A. Alonso can you ask Munson about William Solomon on the Time magazine thing? If it is the same Avenues, then Munson as a kid is on those pictures as well just after the 65 riots. I had cousins around there then too but they stayed to themselves and didn't follow gangs, only sports.
Was u the guy took was talking about
Alex I love what you are doing keep it up Blood and stay ignoring all the hatin' ass bullshit.
thanks for your support.
Interview G Weed from Capanella
Interview OF CK.Bone from Campanella Park Piru he bein doing this shit for 37yrs
let him get back to frying fish with them hands
Joe Smith look like he could fry the hell out some fish. lol
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Untold history, point blank period. Whether you gang bang or not this is something that SHOULD be known for modern day history. Staying up to date and relevant to know how/why the things are the way they are.
The cribs did happened they were the ones who didnt want to be crips but the question is are they still active though?
no it didn't idiot learn your history u heard it from the OG mouth his self
Who is this victor guy, because Craig Munson himself said that Raymond had the limp
Sure did, and to hear ac say they were walking like that because they were imitating victor adams all makes sense of we’re the word crip came from
Donny Maxie...Leonard Donny Maxie 😂🤣😂🤣 i died when he said dat shit
Bethune was a beautiful school. I don't know what it looks like today. They gave students a tour from 61st St Elementary of Bethune
LADY LIL KOUNTRY true I went to Bethune in 68 after my graduation from 75th street elementary school and it was very nice then we also took a tour of the school. I live on 77th and Broadway at that time.
@@brdgthead I grew up on 76th and Broadway. Spent most of my youth at All Nations Pool Hall on 84th and Broadway.
Who killed Raymond Washington?
U did
glad to hear some real war stories and GANG stuff not "i got a mixtape doe" or "im tryna fuck with this music shit right quick"
Exactly
Those young gangsters don't know who they are let alone why they even gang bang in the 1st place or even their own gang history, so you can't get any knowledge from them. You have to go to the OG's.
war stories? people getting beat up, shot and killed is basically better than hearing "I am trying to move away from the BS"? Some of y'all sick.
so its better to hear about how a bunch of teenagers were admiring a gang that disowned them, how they were false claiming it, and then started there own thing when they were 15 years old. Knowledge, right?
+Alex A. Alonso
Yea, that's right, knowledge.
Hearing these OG's war stories is no different from watching the history channel do an episode about World War II.
If you don't know your history you're doomed to repeat it.
Black people problem is they forget they own history & make the same mistakes.
Listening to the OG's stories can keep people from gangbanging.
Especially when you hear that two Waring gangs like Crips/Bloods kinda originated from each other & have more in common than not.
Which is why the gang war is unnecessary.
Young dudes don't really have the foresight that the OG's do.
But last thing +Alex A. Alonso if you don't value interviews from Old heads why did you interview King Bobalouie.
You should have told him that to his face.
Or did you reach out to King Bobalouie solely for the purpose of competing with +Kev Mac who interviewed him first, before you did.
do one on tha History of INGLEWOOD Family Gangsta Blood
"He had a funny lookin' natural, anyway!" Damnit...
U see the triple OG knukkles, original ashy knukkles, they've embraced a lot of faces & body parts. Mine look similar I bring this up kause u rarely see these anymore kause all da lil homies shoot
I’m confused. Is he a crip or piru he giving he wanting to be both ?
I'm confused now. Was A.C Crip or Blood then???? How can I get in touch with the OG
Both, but they couldn’t tell him that he couldn’t denounce his crip affiliation basically because he was part of the foundation of the crips. He lived on piru street and became close to them before the war kicked off but when the carver park crips jumped him his cousin and he confronted them the next day and they jumped him also because they didn’t know who he was, he came back with all the pirus the next day and That’s when the big confrontation happened with Raymond and the crips. But the pirus were a family they wasn’t crip or blood ac was the only crip that lived on piru street and the was the first crip in history to flip from crip to strictly piru and he paved the way for the origins of that entire red side
Is that a scar on his neck??
They be killing me wit the first n last names
If you listen at 8:25-7 he says “clout” damn lol
part 2?
eventually
Certified...Much love and Respect from ChiraQ
Major Keys
he still live in Compton?
preachinshawn u sound stupid Hispanics haven't took over compton
preachinshawn There is just a bigger mexican presences in cpt but there always gonna be blacks there.
King Bob keepin it all the way funky...the ignorance often get ignored and people wonder why it went to complete disarray..
Man...you walked about 25 blocks. We were at 54th and Vermont.
not trying to compare y'all but after kev came out with his lengthy videos I see u tryin to to stay stay afloat now with this vid homie lmao but I love both y'all shit keep doin yah thang bro
Trying to say afloat? I actually interviewed Bobalouie first, and Bobalouie called me and asked if I knew KevMac and I told him it was to cool to do interview with him. Lengthy videos? Go check our archives on lengthy OG videos. You are a straight clown with your BS, but thanks for watching tho!
streetgangs don't get offended nigga just stating facts u neva had had 16 minutes videos till kev starting doin 16 minute videos I honestly neva seen a 16 minute video till boboloueie yah videos had always been like 8 minutes or 10 something like that tops fuck outta here wit dat b.s duke who's the real clown now seeing that you tryin to compete wit kev on lengthy vids now lol smfh and I neva said nothing bout the boboloueie interview I just said lengthy bitch I actually respected both y'all craft but u took it on the chest like a titty and got in yah fellings like a bitch lmao but what should I expect u not gangsta u just a nigga who interviews them lol fall bak Alex aclownso watch yah lips duke
raizen028 for real I had respect foe da nigga but he got all in hiz feelings on some gay nigga shit lol
Alexis Fernandez I need u to do me a good favor ok
You might want to check our archive, to say NEVER, is just wrong. We have several 15 minute videos, plus this video's length was based on the interviewee and how he was talking. We got lengthy videos going back 3 or 4 years on this channel, so go check those, watch and enjoy them, and you can tell me how sorry you are later.
THIS WAS A POPULARITY CONTEST
TRULY PEOPLE
BANGING OVER POPULARITY
Jackie Todd, she was a Cripplett
Yes she was. I remember her from Bethune Jr high she was like a pain in my ass that would not go away. I’m pretty sure it was because of the fact that my brother was Richard Miles.
Ms Bobbie Bridget 🥰🥰.
Next interview "Baybay from cross dress crips"? I'm highly interested to see that. No homo. IJS. Wonderful work though Alonzo, 1 hundred.
If Bay Bay is older than AC I doubt he would be easy to find. But that would be an interesting story.
Alex A. Alonso , BayBay is no longer living, but he was one hell of a fighter no lie.
is craig Munson still alive?
Yes he is.
Alex A. Alonso that would be the ultimate interview
ya think? Bumped into him in Venice, actually got his number. I'll see.
streetgangs is he still Yoked
he is still a big dude, but he lost a lot of his definition.
Dude used to slap box brick walls!
Bethune had just been built in what! 68 or 69? We had the option of going there from the 6th grade. I choose Muir, it was closer to Hoover & 59th.
Young lady what year did you go to 61 first street school.
Nah, Malt Duck you don't 🤣get to ask all the questions. Lol What year was you there? You know my name I see. 😎 And what's your first name?
How the hell this OG turn piru is all I wana know
he moved to Piru Street when he was a teenager.
Bloods weren’t a unified thing until the mid to late 70s and Pirus did not have problems with Crips in the early years.
@@streetgangs That makes perfect sense as the Pirus Boys got down with the Crips initially before joining the Bloods. Raymond Washington had already established the gang himself so it all occurred within the same timeline
@Chino Gambino The Crips turned on the Pirus and that's when they stop fucking with the Crips altogether. As far as Mac Thomas goes, their beef with the Compton Crips had temporarily stalled once Tookie joined Raymond as the two leaders with Mac being the defacto 3rd wing in charge. Tookie talked about it in his book years ago
But didn't the avenues later become crips?
I think the avenues area is now kitchen crip territory