Saying the Dark Knight wouldn’t have been good if you took out Heath Ledger is like saying the 1996 Bulls wouldn’t have been good if you took out Michael Jordan.
Ngl I just binged the Christopher Nolan trilogy for the first time in like a decade and Batman Begins is a lot better than I remembered it. It's not the best by any means but it's got some great moments that really define Batman's character, and some fantastic one-liners lmao. And the Tumbler scene is goated.
@@Deathpool_04 I feel like that could’ve worked because they were both still pretty young by the end of the clone wars. Bruce was what in his 40s? And batgirl was what early 20s?
nah it's not a stupid argument, it's just used as an illustration of why some people don't rate it that high. Not including the joker, most of the movie is mid, so if you compare it to other movies where more stuff is gotten right (i.e. rob pattinson's the batman), it makes sense why some people rate them higher
The Batman is pretty easily the best Batman film, people that say ‘I weren’t invested’ or ‘it was too long’ are the people that go into superhero films just wanting good action man LOL… everybody allowed opinions tho
@@WesSideLive I appreciate your response man I’ve been watching you for years :) keep up the good work - I wasn’t slandering your opinion, but in my own it’s the only Batman film that is a Batman film, if you took the joker out of the Dark Knight as that is the film you compared it too… then it’s just an action film and it was always that… it is regarded as a great movie because of his performance and almost nothing else.. again my opinion; btw I think TDK is also a better movie than the Batman 😂 which is why I specified as a Batman movie I like the direction with the new one
@@MrNuma1 I think batman returns is also better than the Batman, but like you said opinions. I do think that the Batman is a top 3 live action batman movie tho. but key words "live action"
@@MrNuma1 same bro same. Thats goated. I love it even more than dark knight,cuz Battinson and Dano both brought their A game. DK was completely carried by Ledger. Up until now, Spiderman 2(Raimi) and DK were my favorite superhero films.
@@WesSideLive oh yeah sorry I was also referring to live action, some of the animated ones like you said are way better, I agree with the ones you selected, that Lego Batman is absolutely amazing LOL - I might be 25 but I don’t give a damn that shit is A1
@@ninjanibba4259 dents character wasn’t really flushed out, they never showed his split personality disorder before he was two face, which makes his character feel a bit weak and not as powerful as it could’ve been. Rachel is really not necessary for the plot because she can easily be replaced with something or someone else. Bale was a good Bruce Wayne but as Batman! He did a decent job, my problems with him are his voice, his fight scenes, his attitude, energy, and even moments of inconsistency. I never once really felt scared of his Batman nor could I ever really say that’s Batman. Also the way balebat had this thing for Rachel is so not Batman, like quitting like Batman would never being Batman because Is Bruce and he knows this already. Alfred, fox, Gordon, ra’s and bane are really good just to name a few good ones. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy the Nolan films and they can be really great but there not some holy grail of Batman.
@@jonathanmartinez3956 Harvey not showing anything before his turn is definitely not true at all, Batman giving up his mantle to stop killings is exactly what he would do, Rachel is important to the plot for Harvey’s anchor and hope, just like Bruce, they both lost her and they were broken because of it, Dent more cuz it was easier to fall since Joker set the things up, plus him turning is his darkness coming out fully, he doesn’t care anymore, Rachel was his hope, “fair” he says As far as the fighting, it’s whatever, it’s not something I focus on in a Batman movie, nor his voice which I’m used to
@@ninjanibba4259 Batman would definitely not give up his mantle for because while Batman is a mantle to others characters for Bruce Batman is him. Batman is motivated by many things one of those things is his deep obsession with justice so he would most likely just try harder to capture the joker. Rachel as I said before can easily be replaced with different and more affected motivation that feel much more accurate to the characters. For example Harvey’s motivations for becoming two face, rather Rachel being killed, he would become two face off of simply being stressed and losing control of his mind due to the stress and frustrated, and the movie could have showed his descent to darkness slower and not just two relatively short scenes.
The Batman in B is wild you’ll probably appreciate it more if you re watch it because that’s actually what happened for me.Before I had it pretty low because of the length, but now I’d put it in S.
Fr. I’m sorry but saying the movie wouldn’t have been held to the same regard as it is without Heath is a valid point, he completely overshadowed everyone else there were no other stand out performances especially from bale’s batman. Nolan also made his verse way too realistic, so much that even his Gotham felt like it could’ve been a cleaner version of Chicago. Reeve’s batman movie manages to be grounded and gritty while also making the movie feel like it could’ve been ripped straight outta a comic book movie, Hell Pattinson’s Batman even has inner monologues too made me feel like I was reading the comics again
Personally i enjoyed the batman. The action, the story, and even the characters. Sure it felt long but it was worth it cause the mayority of scenes had details that needed to be addressed or else i wasnt gonna understand what was happening. Spoiler: Hell, the scene that got me on the edge of my seat was the car chase with penguin. That shit was epic.
“3 Hours of a good movie” The most honest review I’ve heard of this movie. I loved The Batman sooooo much, I think it’s my favorite Batman movie, but that’s probably a “in the moment” thing. But I agree. 3 hours of a good movie
I absolutely love the riding scenes in the dark Knight when Batman is on his missions. The quality of this movie is mind blowing! The Joker testing Batman’s ideology in the jail was intense. 💙🖤💙 25:20
West. Imo I think The dark knight is a better moive overall, but the batman imo is a better batman movie. Meaning The plot, the characters, and the writing is great but I think the batman captures Batman more than the Dark knight does (Chris is a better bruce than Robert)
I was ready to gouge out your eyes with my thumbs for DARING to disrespect the Killing Joke. But then I remembered this was a *movie* tier list and you were GODDAMN RIGHT, TF WAS THEY DOING?!
Batman Begins is one of the best imo, really great characterization, themes, and drama. The only thing is Ras Al Gul is very wordy and his motivation to destroy Gotham is lowkey wack. Everything else is peak, Bruce has such great development throughout the film.
From the ones I’ve seen 1. The Dark Knight: 10/10 2. The Batman: 10/10 3. Batman Begins: 9.5/10 4. The Dark Knight Roses: 8/10 5. Batman v Superman: 7.5/10
The Batman’s the only movie I ever rewatched in the cinema, not just twice but 3 times tbh. I’m actually kinda surprised people put Tdk above it and place it so high up it was kinda overrated to me, I actually prefer batman begins too I couldn’t get behind Bale’s batman in the tdk and the way he looked and sounded it was goofy ngl Heath’s joker is the only thing that really made me invested I’m not saying the movie would’ve been garbage without him, but he was really the only stand out performance
I loved the fact that they had Billy Dee Williams voice Two-Face in the Lego Batman Movie, because he was originally set to play Two-Face in Batman Forever, back when Tim Burton was still set to direct the film. You even see him playing Harvey Dent in the original 1989 Batman film.
Honestly I had no issue with his score for The Batman, but he *_IMMEDIATELY_* redeemed himself when he flushed BvS down the pooper with *no hesitation.* *_WITH NARY A SECOND THOUGHT._* Especially with Chat having the audacity to call it B.
The Batman is a good, hell even great film. But I think it’s already overrated. The technical masterclass the film puts on overshadows the average plot, characters, writing and below average pacing imo. Like ofc the cinematography, score, and sound design are peak but the other aspects of the film were just ok to me. Def a good film and a upper level cbm but for me personally not the masterpiece everyone’s claiming it to be
The writing average? the writing was solid 8 but 'average' nah,the ending where Batman lights the flare and brings people to the light is amazing visual storytelling,i think you've to go and watch it again.
@@RedLaneArts 8/10? Really? Watched it twice, It’s basically a lesser version of the plot from se7en 😂 don’t get me wrong I loved the film, the cinematography, direction, score, sound editing, how they portrayed Batman & overall production design of Gotham are all top tier. But the writing/narrative was just average. The plot wasn’t anything that intriguing or out of this world tbh. It also wasn’t greatly paced and there were def a few odd choices. For example, when Bruce “finds out” abt his father, on so many levels that could’ve been so much more of an effective & captivating moment. They were building up to this mystery and this revelation that was supposed to turn our heads upside down & reevaluate how we look at & view Gotham, Bruce, and the riddler. It would’ve been such a pivotal revelation for Bruce and would’ve been amazing to see him struggle w/ it, deal with the consequences/effects of his fathers actions on the city of Gotham and himself, and watch him grow from it, instead it’s up-ended in the next scene with Alfred saying “actually ur father isn’t bad it’s all a misunderstanding and a lie” all bc they wanted to have an emotional moment between Bruce & Alfred (which I think was bit rushed/forced imo). like at least let Bruce and the audience sit with that for a moment before going back on it in almost the very next scene, it’s almost like that scene was added just to have Bruce and Alfred have an emotional beat in the film. Also the catwoman/Bruce romance was rushed and made no sense. Selina literally lost her significant other and was deeply distraught & angry about it, but the very next second was kissing all on Bruce 😂. They even flirted w/ eachother earlier in the film when she was supposedly really upset abt her gf being missing 💀. Like imo it would’ve been better if they just kept it at a slight flirtation and just strongly indicated their future for the sequel instead of trying to shoe horn into this one. And again the mystery/narrative was underwhelming, it was something we knew from the beginning, we already knew the people in Gotham were corrupt 😂. it would’ve been intriguing to see them go the Thomas Wayne route, but they went a route that wasn’t all that captivating or jaw dropping lol. And u don’t necessarily have to always subvert expectations, but the entire structure & idea behind this story is that it’s a detective/mystery, yet the climax they built up to wasn’t at all mind blowing or intriguing. Also again this is imo, but a films writing is supposed to elicit strong emotions from the audience esp at crucial points in the story, however for me the only real emotional beats I felt was when Bruce first locked eyes w/ the kid who just lost his dad in the very beginning and also when the bat mobile rev’d up. Besides that, the Bruce/Alfred scene, the catwoman/falcone scene, even the ending monologue they were good scenes but they didn’t elicit the strong emotions from me which is what they intended to do. The climax was also just ok, the entire 3rd act took a huge step down imo & went from showing to telling which was odd bc the first 2 acts were very good in terms showing rather than telling the audience.
Batman’s list of women -Selena Kyle(Catwoman) -Talia Al Ghul -Zantanna -Wonder Woman Batman has A-tier supermodel/literal god like levels of women wanting his D and he goes with Batgirl!!!! Yep it really was that fucking weird.
i will never forgive warner bros. and bruce timm for making an adaptation of "the killing joke" with kevin conroy, mark hamill, and tara strong as batman, joker, and batgirl (reprising their DCAU roles) as mid as it was and do not get me _started_ on bruce timm's creepy self-insert ship between bruce and barbara
I really enjoyed The Batman movie, I even watched it two times because of the whole Noir Aesthetic and the Detective stuff, but there was three, well two for me, things that really took me and like almost the entire theatre audience out of the immersion of the story were 1. The whole romance between Batman and Catwoman was not really convincing in the least, you can literally feel people rolling their eyes anytime batman or Catwoman was gonna kiss or if they even remotely try to be romantic, hell it was so damn predictable we made a game out of who can guess this cliche moment. 2. The second thing which is more of a personal gripe for me, is whenever the Riddler gets loud or is like literally screaming. it made me want to get up and backhand a Bish-like dude STFU with yo loud ass before I climb into the movie and put you out of your misery. 3. Batmans' plot armor, bro this man was supposed to die like two times in the film the first being the explosion to the face and chest point-blank, I had no problems of him surviving that, but come on, my guy was sent flying the dude was literally without a single scratch or some form of injury after that, the second being another damn explosion that sent him flying again this time hitting his head pretty f*cking hard against a bridge and was freaking tumbling meters away and he just shrugs that shit off. so yeah that's about all my gripes with the movie, it's good hell it has the most comic accurate live-action Batman I've seen especially a young batman, but it's not really a masterclass batman movie to me.
1. I did feel their romance to be a bit rushed but considering the amount of times they helped each other, Catwoman being the flirty type and the fact that the scenes they shared have always been....kinda hot, it made sense. Batman and Catwoman are also an iconic duo so either way, their romance is definitely gonna be predictable. 2. Hey, it's Paul Dano for ya 3. This is true (if you consider his bulletproof armor to be plot armor). When the bomb exploded in the funeral, I was so confused why his face was still clean as hell. Like I know he covered his face and all that but it shouldn't have been THAT clean. Also I'm fine with him hitting his face onto a bridge and surviving. He has bulletproof armor so this shouldn't be too unbelievable and he looked like he was very much in pain. Same thing happened in TDK but was much worse in TDK when Batman jumps off the rooftop with Rachel and slams onto a car with no signs of pain from both Bruce and Rachel which is incredibly weird.
Under the Red Hood is low-key better than its comic. Lotta unnecessary comic bullshit taken out to streamline the plot and it works so well because of it.
a lot people don't get the plot of the movie but now that Snyder verse is back people will finally realise its actually great people never read into is religious themes. Id say you need to understand theology to get it.
Ranking Batman returns over Batman 89 is pretty wild. Jack Nicholson gave the 2nd greatest performance as the Joker of all time. Heath Ledger was actually nervous about taking the role because he was the follow up to Jack Nicholson
Under the Red Hood is my personal favorite but I'm unaware of how the community feels about it. Commenting this before it is ranked but I'm hoping for at least a B. Ayyyyyyyyyyy peak lets gooooo
Batman Gotham Knight felt like a bunch of anime directors flexing how rad it would be if they got to make a feature length batman animated movie with some real budget followed by WB going "naaaaah nevermind.".
I think the Killing Joke is mid, HOWEVER I hate people who say that its bad purely because of “bat sex”. It’s literally all the extra bat girl stuff that diluted the movie. Saying that that was the only reason the movie sucked when everything after is panel to screen one of the best comic to ever have been made? You gotta be kidding. Its just all the bat girl stuff before it that makes it bad
The new Batman is not B it’s S tier n Paterson was the best Batman live movie we got my opinion that movie was a 9/10 only thing wrong was it was 3 hours but a lot of people gave it a 10/10
The dark knight goes crazy, it’s villains are amazing (specifically talking about Harvey because I found him more entertaining than joker in that movie), the action is cool, the music is phenomenal, and the acting/casting is wonderful…..but it’s not that comic book to me, this movie was a little too realistic of a Batman movie to me but I also think that’s why I like it as well. Also it’s Gotham is kind of light the criminals feel like mpc’s for Batman to take down and the danger never is there.
some dude spit in his hand and gave me a fever before my daycare was gonna watch it. Ironic right? I was cold. I remember this vividly, I never watched it.
“I watched 3 hours of a good movie not a great movie” THANK YOU. I saw the movie twice and i did not care for the story (edit cause I contradicted something)
anthony cheesman - tbf I’ve watched some movies twice to see if I was missing something or to see if I’ll feel different.. did it with NWH - enjoyed it the first time - semi disliked it the second.
All of those that grew up watching THE BATMAN cartoon Like this comment and this video and sub to my boi Wes. I remember sitting on the floor eating my Chicken Nugguets from any fast food place while watching The Bamtan cartoon. As a matter of fact im going to do that rn and relive my childhood
For the longest time i didnt know the dark knight was a 2 parter because i bought the ultimate version and i played the whole thing on one disc as one complete movie
@@firstlast9846 Green Lantern was more enjoyable that BvS, stop the cap At least GL gives us a riding hero story about good vs evil, BvS gives us what? 3 moping so called heroes of “deconstruction” by not earning moments and characters just doing stuff cuz of plot reactions? Green Lantern is better
Should’ve had Justice League Dark 1 on here. Technically it isn’t a Batman film but he was in it and it was one of the best animated dc films of all time no question!!!
We all know that the greatest batman movie is Scooby doo & the batman. a literal masterpiece.
Facts tho, when Scoob turned into the Joker that shit broke me, so sad
Just saying if you did not have the dark knight in goat I would of an unsub and said wess got kidnap
Batman and TMNT tho
And all Scooby needed was Scooby Snax.
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The sound alone of Robert Battinson revving up that Batmobile made me bust one of the fattest nuts of my life. 10/10
_The Batnut_
@@Rebel_riot151 The Nutman
The Nutter might just be a Batman villain ...
@@EroSennin404 the Mad Nutter
Under the redhood is very underrated. Jason's whole speech about him being taken away from batman is one of the best speeches in these movies
its one of my favorites
I remember watching it a lot when I was younger. It’s a great film to watch .
under the red hood is not underrated lmfao
its not underrated its well loved
And it's one of the best examples of a movie that's better than the original source material.
Anyone remember “The Batman vs Dracula” that movie was fire
FACTZ!
"I am Batman... and you are *DUST* "
The Batman was a god tier show
vampire joker still freaks me tf out when i remember the scene at the blood bank
Yo facts
Joker's introduction in The Dark Knight is literally peak cinematography.
The most comic accurate portrayal of Batman, will always be in The Lego Batman Movie.
“My name is Dick.” “How unfortunate.”
@@Doggieworld3Show "Kids can be so cruel"
Under the Red Hood gotta be my favorite animated Batman film. I think I remembered all the lines in the movie at one point in time.
9:41 Batman begins was actually better than I thought. I rewatched it recently. But I understand not everyone loves it. :)
Saying the Dark Knight wouldn’t have been good if you took out Heath Ledger is like saying the 1996 Bulls wouldn’t have been good if you took out Michael Jordan.
It is true tho lmfao.
Before watching this, I just wanna say that most of the animated Batman movies be more 🔥 than the live action movies at times
Facts, most of the Batman animated movies are top tier
All the time*
@@ryderls2729 fr rewatching Batman beyond rn
@@Intr0vertical nah, there's some shit ones
Them animated ones do to marvel animated what mcu does to dceu
Like under red hood,return of the joker,dark knight🔥
Ngl I just binged the Christopher Nolan trilogy for the first time in like a decade and Batman Begins is a lot better than I remembered it. It's not the best by any means but it's got some great moments that really define Batman's character, and some fantastic one-liners lmao. And the Tumbler scene is goated.
Swear to MEEE
I think Batman Begins is a better constructed film than The Dark Knight.
@@ulquiorracifer5493 agreed
He violated Batman begins its quality
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You know for a movie called "The Killing Joke" they took they're sweet ass time doing something with Joker
Batman is not for everyone, and that's totally fine
Finally a fellow love of THE BATMAN early 2000 animated
That show was slept on HEAVILY, love that show so much
@@vocalpercussion vampire Joker terrified me as a kid. And the episode with all the zombies. When they introduced justice league i was so happy
Imagine if Obi-Wan and Luke Skywalker slept together. That’s how Bruce Timm views Batman and Batgirl.
Or more infamously, Luke and Ahsoka being a thing. Lol
@@Deathpool_04 I feel like that could’ve worked because they were both still pretty young by the end of the clone wars. Bruce was what in his 40s? And batgirl was what early 20s?
@@AtlasAdvice254 What are you talking about?
Glad he pointed out the stupidity of the argument “if u take joker out the movie TDK is mid”
Yeah, the movie is SUPPOSED to be carried by the main villain what do you expect!?
nah it's not a stupid argument, it's just used as an illustration of why some people don't rate it that high. Not including the joker, most of the movie is mid, so if you compare it to other movies where more stuff is gotten right (i.e. rob pattinson's the batman), it makes sense why some people rate them higher
Anyone thinks WesSide laugh contagious, I can’t keep my face straight if I wanted to.
*Tbh no live action Batman* has been that accurate if we’re being honest.. Reeves could end up being the definitive version tho for live action
Too soon to say that
Tbh the reeves version is for me so far he fights like a young Batman, they got his detective side perfectly and his suit is damn near perfect
@@trey5973 the suit isn't really comic accurate either tbh - it's its own thing
The Batman is pretty easily the best Batman film, people that say ‘I weren’t invested’ or ‘it was too long’ are the people that go into superhero films just wanting good action man LOL… everybody allowed opinions tho
Sure.. even know The dark knight is also long and has mediocre action sequences, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
@@WesSideLive I appreciate your response man I’ve been watching you for years :) keep up the good work - I wasn’t slandering your opinion, but in my own it’s the only Batman film that is a Batman film, if you took the joker out of the Dark Knight as that is the film you compared it too… then it’s just an action film and it was always that… it is regarded as a great movie because of his performance and almost nothing else.. again my opinion; btw I think TDK is also a better movie than the Batman 😂 which is why I specified as a Batman movie I like the direction with the new one
@@MrNuma1 I think batman returns is also better than the Batman, but like you said opinions. I do think that the Batman is a top 3 live action batman movie tho. but key words "live action"
@@MrNuma1 same bro same. Thats goated. I love it even more than dark knight,cuz Battinson and Dano both brought their A game. DK was completely carried by Ledger. Up until now, Spiderman 2(Raimi) and DK were my favorite superhero films.
@@WesSideLive oh yeah sorry I was also referring to live action, some of the animated ones like you said are way better, I agree with the ones you selected, that Lego Batman is absolutely amazing LOL - I might be 25 but I don’t give a damn that shit is A1
The Dark Knight's cast was also flawless
Too bad they were missed used.
@@jonathanmartinez3956 how?
@@ninjanibba4259 dents character wasn’t really flushed out, they never showed his split personality disorder before he was two face, which makes his character feel a bit weak and not as powerful as it could’ve been. Rachel is really not necessary for the plot because she can easily be replaced with something or someone else. Bale was a good Bruce Wayne but as Batman! He did a decent job, my problems with him are his voice, his fight scenes, his attitude, energy, and even moments of inconsistency. I never once really felt scared of his Batman nor could I ever really say that’s Batman. Also the way balebat had this thing for Rachel is so not Batman, like quitting like Batman would never being Batman because Is Bruce and he knows this already. Alfred, fox, Gordon, ra’s and bane are really good just to name a few good ones. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy the Nolan films and they can be really great but there not some holy grail of Batman.
@@jonathanmartinez3956 Harvey not showing anything before his turn is definitely not true at all, Batman giving up his mantle to stop killings is exactly what he would do, Rachel is important to the plot for Harvey’s anchor and hope, just like Bruce, they both lost her and they were broken because of it, Dent more cuz it was easier to fall since Joker set the things up, plus him turning is his darkness coming out fully, he doesn’t care anymore, Rachel was his hope, “fair” he says
As far as the fighting, it’s whatever, it’s not something I focus on in a Batman movie, nor his voice which I’m used to
@@ninjanibba4259 Batman would definitely not give up his mantle for because while Batman is a mantle to others characters for Bruce Batman is him. Batman is motivated by many things one of those things is his deep obsession with justice so he would most likely just try harder to capture the joker. Rachel as I said before can easily be replaced with different and more affected motivation that feel much more accurate to the characters. For example Harvey’s motivations for becoming two face, rather Rachel being killed, he would become two face off of simply being stressed and losing control of his mind due to the stress and frustrated, and the movie could have showed his descent to darkness slower and not just two relatively short scenes.
The Batman in B is wild you’ll probably appreciate it more if you re watch it because that’s actually what happened for me.Before I had it pretty low because of the length, but now I’d put it in S.
Same but Wes is elitist
...B is a good score, tf?
@@dontaejones7419 b tier is good but the Batman is certainly better than b
Zoe Kravitz plays Catwoman but she still got me barking
She's such a pretty catwoman!
nah the batman is S for me
same bro same. Thats goated. I love it even more than dark knight,cuz Battinsin and Dano both brought their A game. DK was completely rried by Ledgar.
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Fr. I’m sorry but saying the movie wouldn’t have been held to the same regard as it is without Heath is a valid point, he completely overshadowed everyone else there were no other stand out performances especially from bale’s batman. Nolan also made his verse way too realistic, so much that even his Gotham felt like it could’ve been a cleaner version of Chicago. Reeve’s batman movie manages to be grounded and gritty while also making the movie feel like it could’ve been ripped straight outta a comic book movie, Hell Pattinson’s Batman even has inner monologues too made me feel like I was reading the comics again
@@Random-qi3vv same
@@AveChristusRex789 lol
love this man's Honesty , No BS no bias just straight opinions
Personally i enjoyed the batman. The action, the story, and even the characters. Sure it felt long but it was worth it cause the mayority of scenes had details that needed to be addressed or else i wasnt gonna understand what was happening.
Spoiler:
Hell, the scene that got me on the edge of my seat was the car chase with penguin. That shit was epic.
I’m so glad that he has seen Mask of the Phantasm. It’s such a great movie.
My man's be over here wearing Eraserhead's Goggles
Gordon was probably was my favorite character in the movie
Based tierlist
Yea when he put the new Batman movie on B I was like “Yeaa ima head out”
“3 Hours of a good movie”
The most honest review I’ve heard of this movie. I loved The Batman sooooo much, I think it’s my favorite Batman movie, but that’s probably a “in the moment” thing.
But I agree. 3 hours of a good movie
me watching this video with batman begins and the batman as my favorite bat movies...
i love bvs too. damn nigga. lol
10:08 nice joker laugh. 🤩
I absolutely love the riding scenes in the dark Knight when Batman is on his missions. The quality of this movie is mind blowing! The Joker testing Batman’s ideology in the jail was intense. 💙🖤💙 25:20
West. Imo I think The dark knight is a better moive overall, but the batman imo is a better batman movie. Meaning The plot, the characters, and the writing is great but I think the batman captures Batman more than the Dark knight does (Chris is a better bruce than Robert)
heath jedgers joker solos every character in the batman.
@@angelopantoja2248 Uh huh? Whats your point? A good actor carried the movie. What else do you have to say?
I was ready to gouge out your eyes with my thumbs for DARING to disrespect the Killing Joke.
But then I remembered this was a *movie* tier list and you were GODDAMN RIGHT, TF WAS THEY DOING?!
Batman Under the Red Hood was a ride
Batman Begins is one of the best imo, really great characterization, themes, and drama. The only thing is Ras Al Gul is very wordy and his motivation to destroy Gotham is lowkey wack. Everything else is peak, Bruce has such great development throughout the film.
From the ones I’ve seen
1. The Dark Knight: 10/10
2. The Batman: 10/10
3. Batman Begins: 9.5/10
4. The Dark Knight Roses: 8/10
5. Batman v Superman: 7.5/10
The Batman’s the only movie I ever rewatched in the cinema, not just twice but 3 times tbh. I’m actually kinda surprised people put Tdk above it and place it so high up it was kinda overrated to me, I actually prefer batman begins too I couldn’t get behind Bale’s batman in the tdk and the way he looked and sounded it was goofy ngl Heath’s joker is the only thing that really made me invested I’m not saying the movie would’ve been garbage without him, but he was really the only stand out performance
Nostalgia and Nolan has fans.
Tdk overrated your exit is that way sir
Exactly. The Nolan movies are so overrated and only because of the villains.
I'm glad wessidelive made this video because alot of these movies needed to be rated
I loved the fact that they had Billy Dee Williams voice Two-Face in the Lego Batman Movie, because he was originally set to play Two-Face in Batman Forever, back when Tim Burton was still set to direct the film.
You even see him playing Harvey Dent in the original 1989 Batman film.
The Joker rant reminded me of Doom annihilation.
Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises are my favorite from the trilogy
Honestly I had no issue with his score for The Batman, but he *_IMMEDIATELY_* redeemed himself when he flushed BvS down the pooper with *no hesitation.*
*_WITH NARY A SECOND THOUGHT._*
Especially with Chat having the audacity to call it B.
I was scared of vampires as a kid and was afraid to watch Batman vs Dracula on Halloween when CN would play it. Great tier list Wes!
The Batman is a good, hell even great film. But I think it’s already overrated. The technical masterclass the film puts on overshadows the average plot, characters, writing and below average pacing imo. Like ofc the cinematography, score, and sound design are peak but the other aspects of the film were just ok to me. Def a good film and a upper level cbm but for me personally not the masterpiece everyone’s claiming it to be
The writing average? the writing was solid 8 but 'average' nah,the ending where Batman lights the flare and brings people to the light is amazing visual storytelling,i think you've to go and watch it again.
@@RedLaneArts 8/10? Really? Watched it twice, It’s basically a lesser version of the plot from se7en 😂 don’t get me wrong I loved the film, the cinematography, direction, score, sound editing, how they portrayed Batman & overall production design of Gotham are all top tier. But the writing/narrative was just average. The plot wasn’t anything that intriguing or out of this world tbh. It also wasn’t greatly paced and there were def a few odd choices. For example, when Bruce “finds out” abt his father, on so many levels that could’ve been so much more of an effective & captivating moment. They were building up to this mystery and this revelation that was supposed to turn our heads upside down & reevaluate how we look at & view Gotham, Bruce, and the riddler. It would’ve been such a pivotal revelation for Bruce and would’ve been amazing to see him struggle w/ it, deal with the consequences/effects of his fathers actions on the city of Gotham and himself, and watch him grow from it, instead it’s up-ended in the next scene with Alfred saying “actually ur father isn’t bad it’s all a misunderstanding and a lie” all bc they wanted to have an emotional moment between Bruce & Alfred (which I think was bit rushed/forced imo). like at least let Bruce and the audience sit with that for a moment before going back on it in almost the very next scene, it’s almost like that scene was added just to have Bruce and Alfred have an emotional beat in the film. Also the catwoman/Bruce romance was rushed and made no sense. Selina literally lost her significant other and was deeply distraught & angry about it, but the very next second was kissing all on Bruce 😂. They even flirted w/ eachother earlier in the film when she was supposedly really upset abt her gf being missing 💀. Like imo it would’ve been better if they just kept it at a slight flirtation and just strongly indicated their future for the sequel instead of trying to shoe horn into this one. And again the mystery/narrative was underwhelming, it was something we knew from the beginning, we already knew the people in Gotham were corrupt 😂. it would’ve been intriguing to see them go the Thomas Wayne route, but they went a route that wasn’t all that captivating or jaw dropping lol. And u don’t necessarily have to always subvert expectations, but the entire structure & idea behind this story is that it’s a detective/mystery, yet the climax they built up to wasn’t at all mind blowing or intriguing. Also again this is imo, but a films writing is supposed to elicit strong emotions from the audience esp at crucial points in the story, however for me the only real emotional beats I felt was when Bruce first locked eyes w/ the kid who just lost his dad in the very beginning and also when the bat mobile rev’d up. Besides that, the Bruce/Alfred scene, the catwoman/falcone scene, even the ending monologue they were good scenes but they didn’t elicit the strong emotions from me which is what they intended to do. The climax was also just ok, the entire 3rd act took a huge step down imo & went from showing to telling which was odd bc the first 2 acts were very good in terms showing rather than telling the audience.
@@mum-your Its okay Raj, calm down. Nolan wont see you here in the comments section to thrust his rod in you.
Same! I enjoyed THE BATMAN! And the detective work was pretty great. But I still feel like something was missing. 🧐
Batman’s list of women
-Selena Kyle(Catwoman)
-Talia Al Ghul
-Zantanna
-Wonder Woman
Batman has A-tier supermodel/literal god like levels of women wanting his D and he goes with Batgirl!!!! Yep it really was that fucking weird.
i will never forgive warner bros. and bruce timm for making an adaptation of "the killing joke" with kevin conroy, mark hamill, and tara strong as batman, joker, and batgirl (reprising their DCAU roles) as mid as it was
and do not get me _started_ on bruce timm's creepy self-insert ship between bruce and barbara
The Batman is better than The Dark Knight.
I want all the smoke.
I’m glad to see everyone respects Under the Red Hood, that shit is PEAK 🔥
I really enjoyed The Batman movie, I even watched it two times because of the whole Noir Aesthetic and the Detective stuff, but there was three, well two for me, things that really took me and like almost the entire theatre audience out of the immersion of the story were
1. The whole romance between Batman and Catwoman was not really convincing in the least, you can literally feel people rolling their eyes anytime batman or Catwoman was gonna kiss or if they even remotely try to be romantic, hell it was so damn predictable we made a game out of who can guess this cliche moment.
2. The second thing which is more of a personal gripe for me, is whenever the Riddler gets loud or is like literally screaming. it made me want to get up and backhand a Bish-like dude STFU with yo loud ass before I climb into the movie and put you out of your misery.
3. Batmans' plot armor, bro this man was supposed to die like two times in the film the first being the explosion to the face and chest point-blank, I had no problems of him surviving that, but come on, my guy was sent flying the dude was literally without a single scratch or some form of injury after that, the second being another damn explosion that sent him flying again this time hitting his head pretty f*cking hard against a bridge and was freaking tumbling meters away and he just shrugs that shit off.
so yeah that's about all my gripes with the movie, it's good hell it has the most comic accurate live-action Batman I've seen especially a young batman, but it's not really a masterclass batman movie to me.
1. I did feel their romance to be a bit rushed but considering the amount of times they helped each other, Catwoman being the flirty type and the fact that the scenes they shared have always been....kinda hot, it made sense. Batman and Catwoman are also an iconic duo so either way, their romance is definitely gonna be predictable.
2. Hey, it's Paul Dano for ya
3. This is true (if you consider his bulletproof armor to be plot armor). When the bomb exploded in the funeral, I was so confused why his face was still clean as hell. Like I know he covered his face and all that but it shouldn't have been THAT clean. Also I'm fine with him hitting his face onto a bridge and surviving. He has bulletproof armor so this shouldn't be too unbelievable and he looked like he was very much in pain. Same thing happened in TDK but was much worse in TDK when Batman jumps off the rooftop with Rachel and slams onto a car with no signs of pain from both Bruce and Rachel which is incredibly weird.
Under the Red Hood is low-key better than its comic. Lotta unnecessary comic bullshit taken out to streamline the plot and it works so well because of it.
One thing I wished they put in was Red Hood saying “Goodness Gracious, I’ve been bamboozled”.
Joker 2019 >>>>> the batman and the dark knight
Kinda agreed
The Batman in B tier is a clown take
And elitist take that why I don’t watch Wes no more his opinion is A$$
Damn surprised that The Long Halloween part 1 and 2 are not up there
Batman&Robin is the 1 buck carboard box wine that keeps on giving.
Two words: nipple armor
When he was trashing BvS i felt my heart crack 😢
a lot people don't get the plot of the movie but now that Snyder verse is back people will finally realise its actually great people never read into is religious themes. Id say you need to understand theology to get it.
It’s alright, his opinion is in the extreme minority. Ultimate edition is incredible.
So glad you said lego batman is peak!!! Hella underrated comic book movie and honestly top 3 batman movies period!!
But I loved Batman Begins 😭😂
Ranking Batman returns over Batman 89 is pretty wild. Jack Nicholson gave the 2nd greatest performance as the Joker of all time. Heath Ledger was actually nervous about taking the role because he was the follow up to Jack Nicholson
Under the Red Hood is my personal favorite but I'm unaware of how the community feels about it. Commenting this before it is ranked but I'm hoping for at least a B.
Ayyyyyyyyyyy peak lets gooooo
Batman Gotham Knight felt like a bunch of anime directors flexing how rad it would be if they got to make a feature length batman animated movie with some real budget followed by WB going "naaaaah nevermind.".
The only one thing i like about batman ninja, was catwoman designed cuz you gotta admit, she's looking fine as fuck
I think the Killing Joke is mid, HOWEVER I hate people who say that its bad purely because of “bat sex”. It’s literally all the extra bat girl stuff that diluted the movie. Saying that that was the only reason the movie sucked when everything after is panel to screen one of the best comic to ever have been made? You gotta be kidding. Its just all the bat girl stuff before it that makes it bad
The new Batman is not B it’s S tier n Paterson was the best Batman live movie we got my opinion that movie was a 9/10 only thing wrong was it was 3 hours but a lot of people gave it a 10/10
The dark knight goes crazy, it’s villains are amazing (specifically talking about Harvey because I found him more entertaining than joker in that movie), the action is cool, the music is phenomenal, and the acting/casting is wonderful…..but it’s not that comic book to me, this movie was a little too realistic of a Batman movie to me but I also think that’s why I like it as well. Also it’s Gotham is kind of light the criminals feel like mpc’s for Batman to take down and the danger never is there.
Brrruuuuhhhhhhh, most of these takes are turbo doodoo water. But I'll accept it for now cuz lego batman is goated af
some dude spit in his hand and gave me a fever before my daycare was gonna watch it. Ironic right? I was cold. I remember this vividly, I never watched it.
Batman Returns = Super Underrated
Finally The Lego Batman movie gets some love 😭 when I was in Middle School that was literally one of my Favorite movies
Hold up Batman the killing joke was really good, but yeah that Batgirl part was just woeful
MOTP has the single best scene in all of Batman, when he puts on the cowl for the first time is the shit.
You nailed your critique of The Batman. I had the exact same thoughts. There was no character development at all.
hey wesside i know this is unrelated to the video but what type of hair routine do you do ?
I use shea moisture products
Batman Year one, the dark knight returns part's 1&2, The Dark Knight, under the red hood, and I'm gonna say it BVS are peak movies.
“I watched 3 hours of a good movie not a great movie”
THANK YOU. I saw the movie twice and i did not care for the story (edit cause I contradicted something)
If you didn’t care for the characters why did you see it twice
anthony cheesman - tbf I’ve watched some movies twice to see if I was missing something or to see if I’ll feel different.. did it with NWH - enjoyed it the first time - semi disliked it the second.
@@Anthonycheesman33 cause my sister wanted to see it and i thought “maybe if i saw it a second time i would understand it more”
Better than overrated Nolan movies.
Any Batman animated movie with Mark Hamill Joker feels like it's always gonna be good
Thank God you see The Batman as a B tier movie lol
...but BvS Ultimate Edition is A tier 😎
I rewatched dark knight last night and it’s still fucking peak fiction material.
Batman and Mr. Freeze sub zero is A tier I don’t care what no one says. Also, I’m not taking that disrespect Mr. Freeze’s character.
I disliked the video at the disrespect for Ben Affleck Batman but I liked the video after words so no hard feelings bro
If the dark knight part 1 and 2 were together it would be tied with dark knight
I agree
Hey man, haven’t gotten to the movie tier list yet but great message at the beginning 💪
Okay, I deadass breathed a sigh of relief when you said Return of the Joker was A tier.
Idc I prefer the batman over the dark knight
Frfr
Same. Best batman movie ever
The Dark Knight is the Joker 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Much Praise!!!
All of those that grew up watching THE BATMAN cartoon Like this comment and this video and sub to my boi Wes.
I remember sitting on the floor eating my Chicken Nugguets from any fast food place while watching The Bamtan cartoon.
As a matter of fact im going to do that rn and relive my childhood
Batman begins and the Batman 2022 version are probably the biggest hottakes
Batman vs. Dracula scared the FUCK out of me as a kid
I wasn't tight until you put Batman Forever above Begins 😂😂
For the longest time i didnt know the dark knight was a 2 parter because i bought the ultimate version and i played the whole thing on one disc as one complete movie
Oh my word, I love this video. Despite the difference in opinions, I couldn't stop laughing at your reactions to the really bad ones. You go, Wes!!
Ur batman list is fucked 🤣 as a hardcore batman fan this tier hit a DEEP nerve 🤣
I swear if my man says Batman v Superman is peak fiction I'm out
It’s just a mid movie - not Green Lantern levels of shitty.
@@firstlast9846 Green Lantern was more enjoyable that BvS, stop the cap
At least GL gives us a riding hero story about good vs evil, BvS gives us what? 3 moping so called heroes of “deconstruction” by not earning moments and characters just doing stuff cuz of plot reactions?
Green Lantern is better
broo the mha goggles are so dope wtf
10:01 WesSide boutta become the Joker.
Should’ve had Justice League Dark 1 on here. Technically it isn’t a Batman film but he was in it and it was one of the best animated dc films of all time no question!!!
Just checking in to make sure The Dark Knight is #1