Este motor , es un regalito de Inglaterra . El Rolls Royce Nene , de compresor centrífugo con dos etapas . Se llegó a la producción en serie de una copia para dotar a los Mig -15 . La URSS carecía , en esos tiempos de motores potentes y confiables .
Igazán öröm ilyen öreg madarakat is látni működés közben! Az én személyes kedvencem a Mig-29 Fulcrum, köztük töltöttem a katonaidőmet, és még egy UTI hajtóművezés alkalmával ülhettem is benne! Csodálatos élmény volt és kár, hogy már kivonták a hadrendből.
Nicely done! A beautiful restoration to say the least. Keep up the great efforts and thanks for sharing your video. It was very cool. Respect from Apache Junction, Arizona.
Nem gondoltam volna,hogy elöbb látom a Lengyel Lim-et repülni Zeltweg-be Remélem Augusztusban a Debreceni légiparádén felszál a madár! Nagy munka volt srácok! Köszönet!
Őszintén gratulálok az eddigi eredményekhez, és további sok sikert kívánok a munkához! Biztos vagyok benne, hogy a Repnapon szép látványt fog nyújtani a madár :)
I guess these geniuses have absolutely ruled out any possibility of a catastrophic engine failure. Especially on the...wait for it...TEST RUN ! You know, the kind of catastrophic engine failure that these early turbines were famous for---the kind where speeding, jagged, red hot, engine parts and massive balls of flame rip apart and incinerate everything in their path. Way to go team!
Gratulálok az elért eredményhez, remélem augusztusban már a saját szememmel is láthatom a végeredményt! ;)
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Ehhez a csodálatos munkához csak gratulálni tudok!!! Minden tiszteletem, és elismerésem a csapatnak. 1971-ig itt a tököli reptéren faterom is ezeket a gépeket (Mig-15), és hajtóműveket szerelte :) Sok szépet mesélt nekem ezekről a madarakról... üdv: Misi
@TheRantingCabbie for all references just check RR "Nene" or Klimov RD45 russian engine, this Lim 2A is a Polish licence built of twin seated trainer version of MiG-15. The bulky-chunky design & centrifugal compressor due to "english school" about jet rather "german school" with axial comperessor & sleek design. Moreover Nene was conceived rather as bomber than fighter engine.
@driver64 yes its a masterpiece indeed iv seen one of these engines in the flesh.sadly most of my tech knowledge is on automotive engines so im still learning about turbo jets.thank you however for your knowledgeable comment,much appreciated
I also like the engine! It looks brand new. (The different shades and sheens of metals on the exhaust pipe are cool! Almost seems a shame to put the tail back on!)
essentially "naked" it looks like a very small plane is not the first time that I find video of Hungarian fans who restore or keep alive old Soviet air machine For example, in recent time i am in love with the Kamov Ka-26 helicopter a fantastic toy and I've seen that in Hungary there are still some of they kept in perfect conditions
Wikipedia org/wiki/BMW_003 Wikipedia org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Nene Wikipedia wiki/Klimov_VK-1 Mig-15 production started with the copy of RR Nene. MiG-17 fighter aircraft with a turbojet engine VK-1 was the first Mach 1 fighter. Later the VK-1 also used in Mig-15. VK1 was the redesigned variant of the RR Nene. Still centrifugal. The End.
I'm no expert observer, but it appeared to me that the only thing holding the plane back from moving were the chocks. I suppose they had the brakes on as well. I'm curious as to what temp. readings that guy was getting also.
@DandAinTac Thanks for the reply. I actually saw what I believe was a Rolls Royce (I think that's who made it but it's been a while) in the Niagara Aerospace Museum. Big and bulky and only put out 4500 lb. of thrust. The compression manifold that fed the flame cans looked like cast metal. Thick and heavy looking.
Am I right to say that a turbojet's thrust losses at altitude are lesser than that of a turbofan ? I'm trying to find out the estimated thrust of the Tumansky R-95, the nonafterburning variant of the Tumansky R-13, at say, 35,000 ft.
If you follow the physics, then yes. It is easier for a turbojet (or low BPR) to retain net thrust as you go up in Mach number (takeoff is at low Mn and 35kft is at high Mn). And I say "the physics" because the same engine can be rated differently or the cycle could be re-matched for specific requirements like takeoff thrust, climb rate, acceleration to supersonic speed, etc.
@TheRantingCabbie Yes thats right! The same sollution. A centrifuge compressor with a one stage turbine. The big tubes on the engine ar the burn chambers.
@scwarzewaffe85 Exactly 30 Derwent & 25 Nene-C. Attlee Labour Government was not afraid or hostile to Russia and RR was happy to meet a cash&carry customer for 1st generation turbojet in order to develop improved types-that RR also hope sell to Russia.Nene was rather a bomber engine,the genius of MiG Bureau was "tailoring" around this powerful but huge unit a compact & slender fuselage.It worked!Note also how practical is the splitted and bolted fuselage for easy maintenance.Masterpiece!
***** Thank You; that's what I thought. That documentary that compared the Me-262's axial engine vs the Centrifugal engine of the first British fighter jet had me all confused, cuz they said that ALL modern jets are of the Axial type. Now that I can see that some Airliner engines are also Centrifugal. Very impressed by humble but very high performance of Soviet era machines. Soviets were also the ones to make the very first, guided anti tank missiles. Sagers were supplied to the Egyptian Army, during Arab-Israeli wars.
Yes because the axial turbojet engines was still unereliable "experimental" engines up to the 50', all first reliable turbojets was centrifugal...none in the world use the Me 262 engines or derivates, except for experimentations, all with bad results...
@scwarzewaffe85 Yes! The russians recieve the whole documentation, and more than 30 engines including Rolls Royce Derwent and Nene. This engine is a VK-1 its an improved RD-45.
Greetings gentlemen from Venezuela. excellent video, I build scale models and I would like to ask you if there are images from the radar electronics section, located in the nose above the intake of this beautiful aircraft. Thanks beforehand for your attention. Jorge Calderón
Thank you, but one glance at that jet tells me that it is from the British line of development. You need to do some historical research. Before you call people stupid. Go do some reading troll.
Yes you have right! But this is an edited film! I take pictures when the engine was off. And during the editing I put the engine sound under it! So its a kind of trick! :-) Thanks for watching!
DandAinTac Do some research and you will find that GE in 1941/2 when working on Whittles original design realised the limitation of Centrifical jet engines and much research information was out about Axial flow jet engines. GE decided that the Axial flow was more efficient and one of their engines J35 was built nd it was axial flor. It powered the F84 which flew 2/45 and also the F89 which flew shortly there after. The F86 also received a version lf the J35, the F86 was later because it did benefit from German swept wing research. The USA was not sitting on their hands and did not need the German "secrets"..
It lives! :) That's a very, very tidy powerplant. Nice to see such a historic bird run again.
Lol, never realized just how much of a fighter jet is just engine.
in fact, a jet is built over the engine, except the A-10, which was built over the machine gun =P
Herr Russo Tragik lol
panda44r indeed sir!
Geo не в том
Este motor , es un regalito de Inglaterra . El Rolls Royce Nene , de compresor centrífugo con dos etapas . Se llegó a la producción en serie de una copia para dotar a los Mig -15 . La URSS carecía , en esos tiempos de motores potentes y confiables .
What a beautifully restored Ghost.
Yes! Its a Ghost! And it will remain a Ghost MiG-15 UTI ...
Gratula srácok! És azt hiszem minden lelkes érdeklődő nevében mondhatom, hogy köszi a rengeteg munkát amit belefeccöltetek!
Igazán öröm ilyen öreg madarakat is látni működés közben! Az én személyes kedvencem a Mig-29 Fulcrum, köztük töltöttem a katonaidőmet, és még egy UTI hajtóművezés alkalmával ülhettem is benne! Csodálatos élmény volt és kár, hogy már kivonták a hadrendből.
Absolutely beautiful!
Nicely done! A beautiful restoration to say the least. Keep up the great efforts and thanks for sharing your video. It was very cool.
Respect from Apache Junction, Arizona.
This video just made the Mig 15 more fantastic to me!!! Nice!!!!!!!! And what a sound this engine has!!
Nem gondoltam volna,hogy elöbb látom a Lengyel Lim-et repülni Zeltweg-be
Remélem Augusztusban a Debreceni légiparádén felszál a madár!
Nagy munka volt srácok!
Köszönet!
Őszintén gratulálok az eddigi eredményekhez, és további sok sikert kívánok a munkához! Biztos vagyok benne, hogy a Repnapon szép látványt fog nyújtani a madár :)
Probably one of the best piece of engineering ever built
outstanding!!!!!!!! Fantastic!!!!!
Cool !
I guess these geniuses have absolutely ruled out any possibility of a catastrophic engine failure. Especially on the...wait for it...TEST RUN !
You know, the kind of catastrophic engine failure that these early turbines were famous for---the kind where speeding, jagged, red hot, engine parts and massive balls of flame rip apart and incinerate everything in their path.
Way to go team!
MiG 15 flew with RD-45, MiG-15 Bis had VK-1.
This MiG-15 UTI has a VK-1 engine.
What a beautiful engine, it looks like it is brand new! Congratulations on a job well done on the engine, and a nicely shot video too!
Ezt jó volt látni!!! Köszönjünk!! Sok erőt meg kitartást a projekthez!!!
I had the rare and great privilege of standing near a Fresco while starting up. It had the same low-frequency rumble.
Gratulálok az elért eredményhez, remélem augusztusban már a saját szememmel is láthatom a végeredményt! ;)
Ehhez a csodálatos munkához csak gratulálni tudok!!! Minden tiszteletem, és elismerésem a csapatnak. 1971-ig itt a tököli reptéren faterom is ezeket a gépeket (Mig-15), és hajtóműveket szerelte :) Sok szépet mesélt nekem ezekről a madarakról...
üdv: Misi
beautiful sound
Наши миги везде и всегда работают
شكرا لكم على هذا الفلم الجميل .
mig15UTI use engine is VK-1? I think that the РД-45.
Good job, interresting video thank's.
csodálatos gépezet! enagy rakéta szárnyakkal és egy pilótafülkével. nekem nagyon tetszik :D
Amazing video. Thank you for sharing this video.
My left ear loved this video.
@TheRantingCabbie for all references just check RR "Nene" or Klimov RD45 russian engine, this Lim 2A is a Polish licence built of twin seated trainer version of MiG-15. The bulky-chunky design & centrifugal compressor due to "english school" about jet rather "german school" with axial comperessor & sleek design. Moreover Nene was conceived rather as bomber than fighter engine.
You ever heard of the English school axial flow Metropolitan Vickers F2 which first ran in the late 1030`s be you afucking dumbo yank
That's true. They restore it with great care.
And the result was better then a factory new MiG-15!
impressive. good job
Gratulálok, nagyon szép munka! Nagyon szép madár! :)
Oh...That...That's Nothing Dimitri, That's Just An Old MiG-21 In The Background...Wow...I'd Love To Play There!!!
@driver64 yes its a masterpiece indeed iv seen one of these engines in the flesh.sadly most of my tech knowledge is on automotive engines so im still learning about turbo jets.thank you however for your knowledgeable comment,much appreciated
De jó ezt látni! ;)
Gratula mindenkinek!
I also like the engine! It looks brand new. (The different shades and sheens of metals on the exhaust pipe are cool! Almost seems a shame to put the tail back on!)
Valaki tudna felvilágositást adni hol tart most a felujitás?
that a beautiful thing
@honeybunchickens is the klimov rd-45 based on the rolls-royce nene engine?
Fantastic!
no ear defence of any description?
I can't tell exactly by looking at the video, but does that have a centrifuge compressor just like the old Whittle engine?
essentially
"naked"
it looks like a very small plane
is not the first time that I find video of Hungarian fans
who restore or keep alive old Soviet air machine
For example,
in recent time i am in love with the Kamov Ka-26 helicopter
a fantastic toy
and I've seen that in Hungary
there are still some of they kept in perfect conditions
also what is with the split intake? does one feed the front of the compressor while the other feeds the back?
Stunning! Nice job! Greetings from USSR )))
Could you save us some rebuildable MiG-25 too? This MiG-15 is not loud enuf!🤣✈🚀
Hey Stan The engine runs great now could you install the rest of the plane
Wikipedia org/wiki/BMW_003
Wikipedia org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Nene
Wikipedia wiki/Klimov_VK-1
Mig-15 production started with the copy of RR Nene.
MiG-17 fighter aircraft with a turbojet engine VK-1 was the first Mach 1 fighter. Later the VK-1 also used in Mig-15. VK1 was the redesigned variant of the RR Nene. Still centrifugal. The End.
im modeling a mig15 right now after 2 days im only done with the body part. Its so much fun :) making it for a game i want to create
@roncskutatas Thank you. I did see an old jet engine in a museum once. I think it was a J-33. It had 14 flame canisters (4500 lb. thrust).
Love the jet whistle ;)
I'm no expert observer, but it appeared to me that the only thing holding the plane back from moving were the chocks. I suppose they had the brakes on as well. I'm curious as to what temp. readings that guy was getting also.
Where were the fuel tanks?
@DandAinTac Thanks for the reply. I actually saw what I believe was a Rolls Royce (I think that's who made it but it's been a while) in the Niagara Aerospace Museum. Big and bulky and only put out 4500 lb. of thrust. The compression manifold that fed the flame cans looked like cast metal. Thick and heavy looking.
do they really sit on top of the engine in that plains? I always wondered, what's between the pilot and his engine ...
what would happen if a bolt goes off?
thats actually crazy
Am I right to say that a turbojet's thrust losses at altitude are
lesser than that of a turbofan ?
I'm trying to find out the estimated thrust of the Tumansky R-95,
the nonafterburning variant of the Tumansky R-13, at say, 35,000 ft.
If you follow the physics, then yes. It is easier for a turbojet (or low BPR) to retain net thrust as you go up in Mach number (takeoff is at low Mn and 35kft is at high Mn). And I say "the physics" because the same engine can be rated differently or the cycle could be re-matched for specific requirements like takeoff thrust, climb rate, acceleration to supersonic speed, etc.
+Carlos Soto
Thanks for the reply.
I would give everything just to work on something like that in romania...
who started the progect and how ?
you guys are so luckly ....
Did it fly? What was the temperature?
the whole plane is one big jet engine interesting
Pozdoowienia z Polski dla braci i przyjaciół Węgrów.
@TheRantingCabbie
Yes thats right!
The same sollution. A centrifuge compressor with a one stage turbine. The big tubes on the engine ar the burn chambers.
@roncskutatas Köszöm a választ alig várom,hogya alevegőben láthassam a gépet.
The Oscilloscope was for checking interference.
Thanks!
Советские инженеры потрудились на славу.Сколько лет прошло-до сих пор работает)
МиГ-15 еще ничего,вот о МиГе 21 говорят как о летающем "калашникове"
I wonder how do they start the engine ?? does it have an electric starter, I dont think so ?
And I don't see any start cart close to it..
It is electrically started on internal batterys.
You can also "quick" Start them using external power
ki az a sok támaszkodó civil ? nem veszélyes ott tartózkodni ?
@scwarzewaffe85 Exactly 30 Derwent & 25 Nene-C. Attlee Labour Government was not afraid or hostile to Russia and RR was happy to meet a cash&carry customer for 1st generation turbojet in order to develop improved types-that RR also hope sell to Russia.Nene was rather a bomber engine,the genius of MiG Bureau was "tailoring" around this powerful but huge unit a compact & slender fuselage.It worked!Note also how practical is the splitted and bolted fuselage for easy maintenance.Masterpiece!
Приятные звуки для ушей). Глупый вопрос наверное: зачем в кабине нужен осциллограф и что по нему в данном тестировании можно определить?)
Включили бортовые системы он и заработал при и тестах он не при деле
Gratulálok!
These engines are Centrifugal Turbine like ones on Gloster Meteor, and not Me-262 right?
***** Thank You; that's what I thought. That documentary that compared the Me-262's axial engine vs the Centrifugal engine of the first British fighter jet had me all confused, cuz they said that ALL modern jets are of the Axial type. Now that I can see that some Airliner engines are also Centrifugal. Very impressed by humble but very high performance of Soviet era machines. Soviets were also the ones to make the very first, guided anti tank missiles. Sagers were supplied to the Egyptian Army, during Arab-Israeli wars.
Yes because the axial turbojet engines was still unereliable "experimental" engines up to the 50', all first reliable turbojets was centrifugal...none in the world use the Me 262 engines or derivates, except for experimentations, all with bad results...
@scwarzewaffe85 Yes! The russians recieve the whole documentation, and more than 30 engines including Rolls Royce Derwent and Nene.
This engine is a VK-1 its an improved RD-45.
Szép munka gratulálok.
i was wondering how this engine started, i work on a heavy aircraft that uses bleed air, but that sounded like an electric start
And what to do now?
Awesome plane! where can I get one? :D
Greetings gentlemen from Venezuela. excellent video, I build scale models and I would like to ask you if there are images from the radar electronics section, located in the nose above the intake of this beautiful aircraft.
Thanks beforehand for your attention.
Jorge Calderón
Awesome vid! Thanks for posting. Is this particular engine augmented?
No.
Its an average Klimov VK-1 without extension.
Good video. No Afterburner?
MiG-15 never had an afterburner. The MiG-17 (which was essentially an upgraded MiG-15) had the same engine with an afterburner added.
How much fuel can you carry with that burn rate!
It carries 1 tons of kerosene. Fuel consumption 1800 liter /hour
Nice to see, nice British jet engine.
Thank you, but one glance at that jet tells me that it is from the British line of development. You need to do some historical research. Before you call people stupid. Go do some reading troll.
Thanks, agreed. Did you read about the British sending the Soviets one of their just developed jet engines? .
Based somewhat on the Rolls-Royce Nene but this is a larger engine with more combustors.
Anything that is british, can't be nice. Just take a look at your teeth.
Bruno Gray she's definitely British, looks/sounds like one of the Derwent mk's from Rolls Royce, absolutely beautiful machine
British did a good job on that one.
An then sold them to the Russians.....
That's actually painful to listen to without it turned way down-the frequency. Wow.
Fantastic British design.👍
4:28 That's how I remember a MIG is sounding like :D
I wonder if the used that sounds as the start up sounds of a X-Wing from Star Wars
The sound reminds me of an Allison 501-KF marine turboprop spooling up.
@trainmodeller Köszönjük a csapat nevében is!
eXCELLENT
Sound like my computer run war thunder.
Yes you have right!
But this is an edited film!
I take pictures when the engine was off.
And during the editing I put the engine sound under it!
So its a kind of trick!
:-)
Thanks for watching!
Use the 2-9 keys to play the MiG-15 UTI Engine like a keyboard :D
wow i love mig
It sound like the Soloviev engines on the Tupolev Tu-134
How difficult it must have been to have that running and know you can't go flying yet!
DandAinTac Do some research and you will find that GE in 1941/2 when working on Whittles original design realised the limitation of Centrifical jet engines and much research information was out about Axial flow jet engines. GE decided that the Axial flow was more efficient and one of their engines J35 was built nd it was axial flor. It powered the F84 which flew 2/45 and also the F89 which flew shortly there after. The F86 also received a version lf the J35, the F86 was later because it did benefit from German swept wing research. The USA was not sitting on their hands and did not need the German "secrets"..
Мега надёжный двигатель.
My RR Derwent sounds very similar on start up
Nice bird, fly yet?
Russian development of the nene engine with many improvements, lovely restoration..
great video. thanks for the upload! can i have one of these epic engines? :D
A felújitás gyakorlatilag befejeződött. Tavasszal megkezdődik a berepülés !