Inside The Cockpit - Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
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- As perhaps one of the most famous of the early jet fighters, the Soviet MiG-15's reputation is well-deserved. Let's have a closer look at this aircraft's history!
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Seeing a lot of new faces finding the channel with this video. First of, welcome! Second, to those confused why there is no cockpit in this episode, the answer is simple. While the series 'Inside The Cockpit' will *show the cockpit in almost all cases* - some museums have some restrictions on some aircraft. This was the case here. *For more videos (with cockpits), look here* th-cam.com/play/PLWpO-JGPAanqanhSYqKuMG2C8md9vpX1H.html
Awesome channel!
first "off" Great content but needs an English speech and writing coach
Great vid Bismark , just wondering if you also appear on Bo gaming .
@@AllenSymonds he is better than a lot of native English speakers on TH-cam
@@paulthiessen6467 He has great "technical ability." However, his English speech and presentation needs work. This is constructive criticism not predadatory trolling. No defense or pass is needed.
"Inside the Cockpit"
Doesn't show the cockpit
I demand a refund ;)
As you probably know, but worth mentioning to those that don't. The series name is Inside the Cockpit. With the vast majority of aircraft it's also possible to show it, which is a bonus. With a handful it is not due to museum policies, restoration, health and safety etc.
@@MilitaryAviationHistory I do know, just kidding ;)
Thank you for the great content !
@@pipss2669 Maybe it should be re-named 'Inside and Outside The Cockpit'? Just to cover all bases and clever buggers like us?!! ;-)
@@MilitaryAviationHistory We know, but it's always fun to point it out. Same with Drachinifel's "5 minute" naval videos, which are sometimes hours long. We all love him anyway.
One of the few aircraft I've had the luck to sit in, and at 6'3 it's sticky for short Chinese and soviets
Imagine doing flight training in a Polikarpov U-2, then combat training in a I-16, comverting to a LaGG-3 or MiG-3 for deployment, coming home and 4 years later being trained on a MiG-15. What a change in 10 years of aviation
For those a little curious, the 15 was prone to high-speed stalling leading to a flat spin. A lot of pilots were lost particularly non-russian ones so to assist with recovering the aircraft a white line was painted on the instrument panel. The pilots were then told in a spin push the stick hard against the white line until the plain came out of the spin. This was from Chuck Yeager's autobiography, he was the test pilot who flew the 15 that you see with the American markings.
He asked the pilot about the white stripe and was more than perturbed at the explanation.
This reminded me of something from his autobiography about the parity/not parity of the MiG-15 and F-86. He flew the MiG against a fellow pilot of the test program in a Sabre in mock combat, then they swapped planes and went again. Chuck won handily both times. [At least that's the way he tells it. ;) ] Well, I do believe he won, and that the skill of the pilot, and training to maximize your plane's strengths, made the difference between these two planes overall - just as it did for so many opposing WW 2 fighters.
@@donjones4719 chuck yeager loved him some chuck yeager
gagarin died in one of those
Those early MIGS were beautiful airplanes in polished aluminum!
Michael Cuff yes, I also like polished aluminum planes :)
Polished aluminum is gorgeous. I used to volunteer at a local flight museum, and I polished the f104a. Outdoors. In the summer. Wearing a black staff shirt. Ugh. So hot. I like the single seater -15. The UTI looks rather boxy.
This MIGS 15 killed the first man in space
Actually Mig-15 wasnt have polished Aluminium only F-86
Mig 15 was an unstable gun platform and was poorly built. That's why they developed the Mig 17 which was a true fighter
Looks like I've found "Forgotten Weapons" for planes. Thank you, great videos.
Thank you!
All we need now is for Ian to be sitting in the rear cockpit with some obscure Russian rifle
@@lycossurfer8851 Yeah, he should just walk into frame and say "Now, let's take it apart and see how it works"
Just in case you don't know there's also Drachinifel for warships, the Chieftain for tanks and while the format is a bit different with Military History Visualized if you like the others you'll probably enjoy his content too. It's a great community between all these creators
sounds like an excuse to get them together with an Italian plane and a villar perosa
there was one of those parked in my high school back yard back in the 90's , the school legend had it, that if a virgin graduates, it will fly away
did it ever fly away ? , im legit intrested
@@deanmilos4909 it's not there anymore so you tell me ;)
@@panpaletkalg2550 Probably a male virgin
@@panpaletkalg2550
Whoever made that high school myth has a wicked sense of humor!
@@Menaceblue3 We had similar but it was public school not HS
The title of this video should be “North Korea’s most technologically advanced fighter jet”.
To be honest , the north koreans' most modern fighter jet is the mig-29. It is partially produced locally there without 2nd grade quality parts but they lack the modern air to air missiles of the russians so the north koreans are not really able to use the mig29 to its fullest potential.
And it still is! LOL!
@Esoteric Nostalgist its called a joke mate
do not under-estimate ( your opponents ) .
@@abdmobashir3494 I am very aware of this, hence why I began my sentence with "to be honest". I had the need to write that because I thought that some would actually believe that and assume the joke to be absolute truth.
The approximate pronunciation of the engine in German would be „nie-n“
Though the thought of Bismarck saying “watch me ne ne,” does give me a chuckle.
shame on RR for naming their engines after rivers. No, just kidding. It's beautiful.
An excellent film and presentation - thank you! I am reminded of an incident when the RAF became victim to a MiG-15. 12 March, 1953, An Avro Lincoln bomber of the Central Gunnery School, RAF Flying Training Command, was shot down by Soviet Air Force MiG-15 fighters during a training flight from Leconfield in Yorkshire, with the loss of seven lives. Due to a navigation error, the Lincoln had inadvertently strayed into the Soviet Zone of Germany during a routine fighter affiliation exercise. Whilst this aircraft had undoubtedly strayed close to, and possibly even slightly over the border, its track was clearly intended to take it into the air corridor, a fact that must have been quite obvious to the Russians. The Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, described the incident in the House of Commons as ‘wanton attack’ and a strong note of protest was delivered to the Russians. The Russians replied by claiming that the Lincoln crew had fired first. However, it was soon pointed out that on these training sorties the belt mechanisms were removed from the cannons* in the mid-upper turret and the rear turret and therefore carried no ammunition. The Russians eventually expressed regret over the death of the 7-crew members and returned their bodies and the wreckage to RAF Celle, West Germany, shortly after the incident.
*Note the reference to cannons. By this time Brownings machine guns had been taken out of Lincoln turrets and replaced with Hispano cannons.
As always when confronting with commies - fools in military were murdered even without ability to shoot back...
There is an urban legend in Russia, that Mikoyan literally won the Nene engines in a game of billiard with CEO of Rolls-Royce company.
Yes.. There's a documentary on mig and they talk about it.. And stole some metal shavings from the RR factory..
@@BAZZAROU812 Yeah, apparently one of the delegation had special spongey soles on his shoes to pick up the shavngs off the facory floor, as the metalurgy of the blades was one of the biggest sticking points for Soviet designers
I suggest you read _"Not Much of an Engineer"_ by Sir Stanley Hooker.
He said if Mikoyan could beat him in a game of billiards he could have the engines as a gift, free of charge
Mikoyan smoked him lol
@@Jack29151 Yeah, I think it’s a myth.
Saw one in Trade-A-Plane around 2000 for $50,000 with spare parts and an extra engine.
wtf
@@deanmilos4909 Yeah sounds cheap but getting it airworthy and licensed would likely be ten times that.
The MiG-15 is basically an armed Piper Cherokee with a jet engine. Very very simple.
Soviet engineers touring the Rolls-Royce factory wore crepe-soled shoes. By pressing hard into the shop floor tailings they collected turbine blade metal samples.
The MiG-15 and F-86, being independantly developed concurrently, had as much of an effect on air combat as the Me 262 had during WW2 - The swept wings, permitting high transonic performance that the earlier straight wing jets (No, the Me 262 does not count as a swept wing for performance purposes - to have an effect, the sweep angle should be more than 30 degrees, and the MiG-15 and Sabre had 35 degree sweep) could not attempt to match. The swept wings allowed these jets to be able to fly and fight at Mach Numbers that the straight wings couldn't reach.
The MiG was significant on its own - to the Western Technical Intelligence folks (The ones that were paying attention, anyway) it demonstrated that the Soviets weren't lagging behind the West technically.
As for those who look at a MiG-15, and see the wartime German Ta-183, be cautious - it is very easy to assume that similarity comes from duplication. While the Ta-183 drawings (Which were all that existed) may have had some influence on the concept, do not forget that there is a long road between a concept drawing into an actual aircraft design, and then into a flying aircraft, and finally, to a serviceable aircraft. A more likely path is that the TsAGI (Central Aerodynamic and Hydrodynamic Institute, the Soviet equivalent to the US N.A.C.A. or Britain's Air Research Council) obtained the transonic data from Germany and Italy at the end of the war, and, with some boost from being able to obtain U.S. and British data, built their own knowledge base. While physics tends to dictate basic configurations, (Air flows the same over all countries) the acual aircraft is driven by the requirements that it is built to.
The mig was actually based on stolen blueprints from Germany, look up the TA-183.
@@MrWolf-kd8yh it's impossible "to base" on Ta - 183, it's only possible to use it's general scheme, which is not the same thing. With no objections, the scheme had been used.
Look who didn’t read the parent comment lol
it wasnt just the drawing of the ta183, but german research in general.
German research into jet propulsion and aerodynamics as you approach supersonic flight and beyond, was, in reality, decades beyond its time.
The main reason why two Fighters developed independently and concurrently could look and perform so similarly is because this was the adaption of german research captured by both sides.
Swept wings, nose intakes, etc... It wasnt really until the F4/Mig-21 generation that we finally start to get some distinctive variation that a novice would spot, because that was the point that both sides started to move beyond the boundaries of what the Germans had researched, and were moving into more try what works with what we know... But even that was based on a lot of theories and such laid down by the Germans as well, such as delta wings.
@@boomznbladez405 , I suppose you mean decades ahead its time and I agree.
I'm reasonably certain it's pronounced "neen" despite its spelling.
@@billbolton Indeed - I live in Northampton which is on the Nene - although some locals pronounce it as 'Nenn' for some reason, but mostly it is said as 'Neen', and I have always referred to the engine as 'Neen'.
Roland Bogush
There is some discussion of the pronunciation on the Wikipedia page for the River Nene. I always thought that Nenn was the standard pronunciation.
@@rolandbogush2594 It is named after the river, like ALL the Rolls Royce engines then...like the Welland and the Derwent, the idea of naming engines after rivers represented "continuous flow". the Goblin was named after Greta Thunburg.
@@jerry2357 Wikipedia...lol...right.
@@scottleft3672 Yes, I know - however, there is some discussion as to how the name of the river is pronounced, an that varies according to where people live. The consensus seems to be that the engine name at least is pronounced 'Neen' even though it is spelled the same as the River Nene.
1:14 MiG-15 bis, "Ostravský" squadron, S/N 3905, Produced in Letov/Aero companies.
11:17 Lt. No Kum Sok... I just... I just can't man. No wonder he defected....
I just got that! That was funny! He defected and hopefully, changed his name.
I want to think that it's definitely not pronounced... Like that...
Oh...
@@renard6012 it's kind of close to how you think it's pronounced
20:36 Make sure the intake is free of FOD.
What’s FOD
@@CornMatterToo Foreign object damage
@@thierrykaslan2756 Foreign Object Debris (rather than damage). I'm sure I heard this term before, but I know it today because of the Crew Dragon and the anti-FOD boots...
Got to see mock dogfight at El Toro MCAS by aMIG15 & an F86 Sabre. The MIG was very agile and seemed to out turn the Sabre. The next day, the Sabre stalled during a low loop and crashed and burned( pilot killed). The next year the MIG was back and did solo routine.
That's sad.
Joined ...was embarassing to enjoy these so much and not!
Thank you, plenty more coming up !
I have watched it twice. Great video. I enjoyed the part about the ejection seat sneakiness.
Woo-hoo, pan and zoom. It's getting really professional now. Well done Bismarck and crew (perhaps you should do an introduction as you definitely appear to be a team now, or was it done in post production)
Amazing and beautifully handsome airplane!!! Very well done walk around!!!
n°163 on a MiG 15 ?
German sense of humor I guess ? :)
The jet that started an iconic legacy that would define the rest of the century and continues to fly high today.
South Korea's main jet fighter lineage:
F-86 > F-4 > F-16 > F-15 > F-35
North Korea's main jet fighter lineage:
MiG-15 > Mig-15 > MiG-15 > MiG-15
I will definitely visit the museum next time I am in Germany ;)
Please Translate from Russian!
UKRAINE.
Instagram - igris.sensei
Я Эксперт Боевых Искусств
СЕНСЕЙ ИГРИС.
НОУ-ХАУ "АНТИСТАНДАРТ".
У меня в качестве ИГРУШКИ лежала в сарае (во дворе) РЕАЛЬНАЯ ПУШКА с этого самого МИГ - 15.
И Я СОВСЕМ Не ШУЧУ....
The first Eurofighter, British engine, Russian airframe.
GERMAN airframe right?
please take a breath once in a while. I like your show, but being bombarded without break is too much to handle.
Maybe listen to some classic symphony, they teach you how to make use of pauses 🙂
7:34 An ejection seat trainer? I guess the Soviet Union doesn't mind a few broken bones. 8:10 "With a reduced charge" - Ah tricky tricky.
Sir, You do some of the best research and evaluations of these aircraft that has ever been done anytime anywhere. Well done and thank you for sharing.
Great video. I enjoy your content. WW2 aircraft are mostly my favorite type of fighting aircraft since childhood. Thank you for covering this era with interesting narration. Keep up the great work. God Bless.
Cheers, Dub. Glad you enjoyed it!
How a 20 minute long video titled "Inside The Cockpit" shows no shots of being inside the cockpit of the plane in question is just embarrassing
3:39 I guess you could say they were LaGGing behind
Ba dumm tss!
The basic design is very very good. The F86 is a cleaner design but the layout is very similar. The Russian design is very robust.
These were great aircraft. I’ve been in aviation most of my life and in the US we have been blessed to have a lot of restored F-86’s and Mig-15’s. I’ve spent some time flying (airline) with pilots who have flown both at air shows. It’s a very tough call to say which is best. The pilots here say the believe the F-86 was, on balance, a better aircraft. They said the F-86 is a joy to fly and it feels more intuitive But, in combat, I think the statistics speak to the near equality of the two platforms. I just finished listening to: Mig Alley: The US Air Force 1950-53 in Korea. THOMAS McKELVEY CLEAVER. I don’t agree with some of the authors opinions or how his presentation of fact often is colored by political beliefs rather than reality.
Regardless it covers the absolute effectiveness of the MIG 15.
I lived near Chino California right after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Almost overnight there was a influx of Mig aircraft into the US civilian market. The shocking aspect of working on these aircraft were the incredibly lax maintenance standards on some of the aircraft. For example as we opened up some of the aircraft that had been operational at purchase, we found make shift repairs using hardware store material. In one instance an engine mount had broken and in order to keep the engine in place they had wrapped bailing wire around the engine mount and the fuselage mount. In many instances bolts that were lost or broken were replaced with self tapping lag bolts. It was for lack of a pun…. Nuts.
What is amazing is that the aircraft flew with these “work around repairs”.
If I were a millionaire, I’d definitely buy a Mig-15, but if I could afford a Mig that I’d really like it’s the Mig-17 and Mig-21bis.
Alas, I’m not quite rich enough for anything more than a single engine Piper.
Get a job hippie
@@jthunders Buddy he can afford a plane, he has more than enough money
Planes of Fame has a few Migs. You should stop by and look at them if you're ever in Chino.
@@R281 I use to live in Riverside in the 80’s and early 90’s. Would visit Chino about once a week. It was a pretty amazing time both in California and Florida. There were a lot of men alive who flew in WW2, Korea and Vietnam. You’d find these men working on or some flying some of the early MiG imports.
@@bret9741 I remember. Good times.
Nene is pronounced either Neen or Nen depending on where you live along the river, definitely not Nener :)
But how good is our Russian?
@@malcolmnicholls2893 i believe the host is German. Not Russian.
@@boomznbladez405 But how good is our German?
@@malcolmnicholls2893 mein deutsch ist fair
@@boomznbladez405 Ich bin ein Berliner! (OK, not really)
Awesome. My favorite early single engine jet. Looking at both the inside and outside of the plane I can see that they incorporated a lot of german ww2 tech
This one has the German language on it's skin too, which makes it even fancier!
@@tigertimon lol I was more refering to things like the flight stick, being pretty much a copy of the KG-13
and the high tailplane like the Ta 183 design
Sadly I couldn't get inside this one (this time). Hopefully in the future I can show it in more detail.
@@MilitaryAviationHistory Yeah, understandably. Great vid regardless
@@MilitaryAviationHistory Come to Kbely in Prague. There are several...most just rotting outside.
Made in USSR 👍
From what I've read, the Saber, during the Korean war had a 6:1 kill ratio over the Mig15, however when faced against Soviet pilots, had a 1:1 kill ratio.
well the reason there is obvious...
Stop reading US propaganda, maybe?
the kdr was exaggerated on both sides, as US and Soviet/Ace Korean/Chinese Pilots was claimed by both sides in favor of themselves.
realistically it is hard to say because the reports on the communist side aren't detailed in who flew what and when... mostly to hide Soviet involvement.
also, unlike Americans, Korean, Vietnamese and Chinese practice was that each plane wasn't dedicated to a pilot, but a pilot would fly whatever plane was there at the time, so tracking specific pilots by plane markings would be impossible as well.
avión miki 15 hitoria avion lus no ver
bauro porlleto la Alemnia a nasa modelo pude con perie con a 37
What a conveniently placed book you found there, Bis
The british:
Makes cutting edge tech, lags behind when the others make the same
RR Nene, pronounced "neen", not "naynay".
The way he pronounces it has become some sort of "maymay"
If I hear this guy say “iconic” just once more in a video I’m going to unsubscribe.
MiG-15 might still be the only jetfighter ever built which got shot down multiple times by an conventional piston engine fighter plane during the Korean war.
F4Us shot down several
rather watch your mini-docs than anybodys........
inb4 Nene memes.
One 37mm tennis ball hit and F86 is ruined. 50x 12.7x99 hits and MiG15 goes safely home with few scratches :D
Except that it was far more likely that a MiG would get hit with a .50 Cal hailstorm than a Sabre would get hit with the 37mm. A gun is only useful if the round hits the target.
@@peterstickney7608Doesn’t matter. You get more hits that don’t bring down the aircraft vs. less hits that do.
In the end it’s just a matter how likely a gun is to take down an aircraft, which depends on the expected hits vs. expected damage.
A Sabre with the same guns would be much more effective.
i actually like the mig 15/17/19 more than the mig 21
Rather "outside the cockpit"...
I like these early MiG jets a lot. Thanks!
Armament was more for bomber killing, meaning it was a bit lacking for engaging other fighters. OTOH, the USAF .50 cal suite was actually a bit light.
Actually Gagarin had just been given permission to fly again and died with his instructor pilot.
Because they had been giving poor directions by ground control
Go inside the fvcken cockpit ! ! !funny guy.
In this plane Yuri Gagarin Lost his life
Yes. He was on a recreational flight when he was buzzed by a Su-15 going supersonic (which didn't see him). This caused his plane to lose control whilst at low altitude, what happened next was history.
Oh hey it's the MiG with *that* certain NATO code-name
Can you make a video like this of the Sabre?
properly named prattvittniski 17
Makes me want to fire up DCS and try to remember what everything does again.
Fire it up then. You will surely enjoy it over and over again.
@@yurisv7315 I ended up with 18 modules going all the way back to the first Black Shark release. Takes some time in each aircraft to get past the lawn dart phase... The 19 was my favorite Mig of the bunch. Well after I figured out how not to clear your wings in sharp turns. WTF Where did my ext fuel tanks go?......... Oh... LOL
I was here for the cockpit but whatever! Great video
Great video and history lesson. As a retired military aviator myself, I really enjoyed the "preflight walkaround". Keep the videos coming.
my father flew that junk and 17 AND 19
@@johnsmith-hw5bv Cool. Who did he fly them for if I can ask?
Oh I saw the fairey egg plane. Sorry don’t remember it’s actual name
Great intro, love the music haha
Hah, a wee bit cheesy though :)
I thought I was watching Life of Boris for a second.
No mention of Sea Furies shooting down Mig 15s?
Who would be stupid enough to sell a new jet engine to the opposition?
Yet another great video. The local Oakland Aviation Museum has a Chinese Mig-15Bis that on Open Cockpit Day can be sat in. Even on the walk around and touching the aircraft it feels robust in the Russian way. Having sat in the cockpit as well. It is a great experience that games cannot replicate, cockpit ergonomics could be better but it's not bad either.
As I said, another great video that puts other documentaries to shame. I look forward to more.
rassian call it CP spasiba rollz royckavich
The early migs(15 to 21) are my favorite jets , they are beautiful and i will fight anyone that disagrees
for me it's the F-86 and Tomcat with the Flanker a close second. Have you seen a Mig15 in person? it's almost brutalist in design compared to the saber
still cool af though
No silver skin
@@elykeom1 this
@@Snuckster2 i saw a 17 in a museum and i like brutalism that might be why
YOUR ON! I like the F-86 over the MiG 15.
6:26
>Novosibirsk, population (1939) 431 000
>Middle of nowhere
Eh?
its a big city, so is omsk.
@@ausintune9014 But Omsk is a very center of NOWHERE! Nobody can leave it
I own this in DCS, absolutely love it.
Inside The Cockpit? Una foto es "Inside The Cockpit"? Te ganaste un no me gusta, salud!
He didn't tell the story about how that Soviet guest to the British engine manufacturer squish the metal shavings into his shoes
That was done assuming that RR wouldn’t get the export license for the engines. The did so it wasn’t needed. They had whole turbine assemblies to analyse.
Sitting side by side with a F86 😖💥
Nene - pronounced neen
Until it meets a Saber and gets shot down
i saw in a russian doc that the russians were given just literally weeks to get new pilots to fight in the mig 15! not even the raf during the WW2 had that short a training schedule.
What about Zero pilots in late WW2?
Trainer: congrats, you've completed the Zero pilot training
Pilot: cool, so when do i learn how to land?
Trianer: that's the neat thing, you don't
You also need to remember that the Labour party took power after the war in the UK. They are a socialist party but had a lot of our right communists and they had sympathy for the Soviets. So they knew full well what they were doing when they sold them jet engines. If the conserva6were still in power they would have never sanctioned the sale of high tech to the USSR.
Ordinary citizens perceived the USSR as an ally in the fight against Germany. But the authorities of Great Britain and the United States have already set their sights on the destruction of the USSR. "Operation Unthinkable March 1945" existed for a short period of time when propaganda had not yet turned the population against the USSR, and this helped to buy engines in Great Britain.
12:04 what plane is the F 51?
P-51 was renamed to F-51 in the Korean War
Pursuit changed to Fighter and photo
reconnaissance aircraft (F) changed to an R prefix.
After the USAF was formally fully separated from the U.S. Army (It had been quasi-independant during WW2) in 1947, they revised the designation system for aircraft. "P for Pursuit" became "F for Fighter", ("F" had previously been used for photorecon aircraft) the "A for Attack" (Actually Light Bomber") was used for Amphibious (Search and Rescue, and Special Operations, for the most part) and single engined Light Bombers (Only the A-24 (Army Dauntless) at that time became "Fighters", and multi-engined Light Bombers (At that time, only the A-26 Invader) were redesignated as "Bombers". (The Martin B-26 Marauder was completely out of service, so there was no crossover)
Coming to this a bit late so someone else has probably already pointed this out but just in case they haven't..... The Rolls Royce Nene - is pronounced as in "need" but with an n on the end instead of a d. It is named after the River Nene, just as the Rolls Royce Derwent is named after the River Derwent. And the modern passenger jet engine the Rolls Royce Trent too for that matter - named after the River Trent. It is one of those annoying British names that seems to be spelt wrong because it is an ancient spelling.
11:14 Are we just glossing over the N Korean pilot's name here?
The mig was East German, swag
Most iconic fighter ever. Dominated air space everywhere it showed up. Most famously in Korean War. All U.K. and U.S. fighters went for cover as soon as they saw the little Mig15s. That is what the English pilots reported, in their secret files, just declassified recently.
Only in the beginning. After the F86 was brought into use that quickly ceased to be.
F86 is only glorified by US media. The records in the Soviet Union/Russia are far more balanced, where Mig Alley (so called by all sides) was dominated from start to finish by the Migs. This is confirmed by other independent sources, and even by British aces. US media is well-known for reporting false kills and other misinformation:
A) To install confidence in their fighting troops. They did the same in Vietnam, yet left in total defeat, which the whole world saw. Yet, even now, as they lost in both Korea and Vietnam, they are trying to rewrite these histories, as if they were the winners. Funny, only it ain't true..and noone laughs at such boring macho bullshit.
B) Also, that later the US can argue for the next agressive war, from position of 'winners'. By then, noone in US power, cares about truth, anyway. So why even bother. Especially when most educated people know, that the US has a very bad record, for winning wars.
I don't know how much you know about military action and Air Forces aims, but I served in the Air Force in Europe, and every action is always in accordance with primary objective. The primary, and actually all objectives of the Soviet Mig fleets in the Korean war, was to defeat the bombings fleets of the Anglo-americans, and in the delta region, on the border of Korea, which became known as Mig Alley. F86 were used, ineffectively, to provide cover for all the bombers. That area was very important for both sides, as it was the corridor through which China delivered all its troops and equipment.
That mission was a great success for the Russians, as that area became quickly death zone, no go area for any Anglo-american aircraft.
As in all big wars, up-to-date, it's the bombers that deliver the important impact, not fighters. And fighters are judged on how successful they are in defeating opposing bombers with their protection fighters.
If the f86 were equal to the Migs, the US would have saved many of its bombers, and in turn, the US bombers would have devestated the Chinese advance. Quite the opposite happened, it was the Russian airforce fighters and Chinese army on the ground, that defeated the Anglo-americans in Korea.
To argue any different, is pure fantasy.
You have to also consider the fact that US aces had great financial and other incentives, to claim nonexistent kills. No such incentives were available to Soviet aces. They usually got just an embrace by mates, and commanding officers considered them as just doing their duty, not much more than that. I know some of them, and they don't show off, or claim honour and such rubbish, we see from Hollywood.. We know that some North Korean aces also over claimed kills, by virtue of hating US agression against their country.. but in the end the truth always comes out in the wash. So, a little honesty goes a long way. Pity the US pilots didn't take a leaf of honesty from the British pilots.
Looks like it lives off air plankton.
Hey Fritz, you finally found a good background! This is so excellent - your knowledge and pacing appear very practiced and well-rehearsed - the best lecture I've seen on the MIG. And all driven by the best organization I have ever seen. Keep 'em comin.'
Thanks Paul!
Guys this is my favorite fighter jet aircraft id take one one modern jets except the f-4 phantom 2 that jets just bad-ass i love this design and the story behind this aircraft and how the Russians went into the British factories where the Rolls Royce engines were being manufactured and stepped by where the fin blades for the engine were being fabricated and the shavings from the metal were laying on the ground and the russians ground there boots into the ground to get metal shavings on there boots so by the time they got back they had already known the metal alloy and what the engine was comprised of.
Hi - I received your translation of the German Army Medium Tank Company manual today - looking forward to reading it.
I’m sure you did a great job of translating it to English from German. Though I don’t speak German - I use to work for the US Army Foreign Language School at Presidio of Monterey of California - so I do have a bit of understanding of how translating from one language is more of a art than a science - thanks for your hard work to make this document accessible to me.
Happy to hear that it arrived, hope you enjoy.
Love the video. Thanks. It would be really interesting to see a video about Yuri Gagarin's death in a Mig-15 UTI.
The kill ratio was 5.6 Migs killed to 1 Saber. That dropped to 1.4:1 with Russian pilots. The reason they pulled back was high Mig losses. The USSR stole (given) engine from Brits and the Aircraft came from Germany...
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Great video! BTW - who could have EVER predicted the Rooskies would reverse engineer another country's engine?! I am shocked, shocked I tell you.
well they reverse engineered a whole plane, and a big one: B 29 >Tu 4... they didn't had the start in the engineering game but still had resourceful and smart ppl
Real big brain movie by the British
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Well, yes, they did do that, to get the RD-45 and VK-1 for the MiG-15s and -17s. That being said, the Tumansky and Lyulka engines used in the later Soviet Aircraft were all home-grown, did their jobs well, and were distinctly Russian.
Danke, dass du keine Hintergrunddudelmusik benutzt hast.
Könnte gut zuhören. Thanks!
Regarding the supply of British jet engines to the Soviet Union, although that seems surprising to us now, we need to bear in mind that at the time, the Cold War was only just beginning to be recognised as such; the Soviets had been allies until very recently and the then British government was interested in improving Anglo-Soviet relations - the Berlin Blockade had yet to take place. Plus, the UK was desperately short of money and selling jet engines may not have seemed as outlandish at the time as it does from the perspective of the post Cold War era. Notwithstanding all of that, it is reputed that Stalin was amazed to have been sold the engines!
The Soviets always said the capitalists would sell them the rope that they would hang them with, and the British Labour government of the day was happy to oblige.
It's often forgotten that up until the Korean war USA and UK aided the Soviet Union with it's genocides and helped and equiped the Russians, oppressing the other Easteuropean nations.
@@zava5025 wow okay that was a little too intense can't we just get along
the music used in the intro is verry nice eh
Fortunate here in Australia, at an air museum nr Brisbane was able to spend as long as I wished looking around & sitting in a LIm 15. On a trip to NZ sat in the cockpit of a F86 sabre. Realised later it was the historic plane used by American pilot Joseph McConnell, who shot down 16 MiG 15's in Korea. Beautaeous Butch II. Google classic flyers Tauranga. The aircraft can be seen on their website photo with tail towards the fence. Red stars on fuselage signifying 'kills'
Simple and effective. Great design. I wish fuel was cheap.
Hello, I am writing on behalf of the Chelyabinsk watch and clock factory MOLNIJA. Our aviation clock is installed on the MiG-15. Can we use your video(this) to create content?
Just as the British superlative Merlin engine made the American P-51B/D the superlative fighter escort, interceptor, fighter-bomber that it could be due to its American, state-of-the-art aerodynamic fuselage, it was the British Nene jet engine combined with the state-of-the-art, German-inspired, Soviet airframe that created the MiG-15 and the MiG-15bis Fagot. The American P-51 was the right British decision. The MiG-15 was wrong decision for the British government that would come back to bite the Americans and the British over the skies of North Korea in December 1950 to the end of the war in July 1953. A socialist government came to power in Great Britain after the British people voted Winston Churchill out of office in June 1945, another really bad decision that the British people would have to later rectify. But it would be too late. The new British socialist government felt kinship with Soviet Premier and Party Secretary, Yosef Stalin, the supreme and feared lifetime dictator of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was ostensibly a socialist government but in reality it was run as a draconian totalitarian dictatorship. Nonetheless the new British Prime Minister, his cabinet, and the Labor Party felt it would do well to build a close relationship to socialist Soviet Union and create an economic relationship. When the Soviet government asked the British government for the Nene jet engine - at that time perhaps the best jet engine in the world - the British government thought it would be harmless to comply and indeed foster better diplomatic and economic trade relations with the Russian superpower. Over the strenuous objections of the British Defense Ministry and the Defense Minister and the top generals of the British military, the Nene jet engine sample shipped to Russia. The Russians disassembled the Nene jet engine, analyzed it, reverse-engineered it and promptly began manufacturing non-licensed copies for the proposed new jet fighter, the MiG-15. Up until that time, the Russians were hampered by the limitations of their copies of the WW2 German Jumo 002 jet engine, despite some minor improvements from Russian aerospace engineers. The British Nene jet engine solved all of their problems and created new ones for the Western allies. High in the skies over North Korea, the MiG-15, secretly piloted at first by experienced Soviet fighter pilots, would go on to shoot down American and British jet fighters. The American Sabre jet F-86A was the first to meet the MiG-15 on near equal terms, the MiG-15 possessing a higher climb at altitude, better maneuverability at high altitude, and could reach 50,000 feet max altitude compared to 45,000 feet for the F-86A. Yet rapid introductions of successively improved F-86s Sabres, the E version then the F, continually reduced the performance margin of the MiG-15 until both fighters were equal; no longer could the MiG-15 climb out of reach of the F-86. The British Nene would go on to boost the Soviet military aerospace capability and research and development allowing Soviet engineers to use the knowledge to create even better domestic jet engines, like the Klimov. So ultimately the Soviets can credit the defeated Germans of WW2 and the British for being the fathers of the modern Soviet then later Russian Federation military aerospace force.
The Soviets were definitely LaGGing behind in 1945.
I'll wager that they were too busy YAK-ing away.
How can you call it in the cockpit if you never got in the Cockpit.