The best way to salvage a queenless spring honey bee nest

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  • @justinmills8084
    @justinmills8084 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am so glad you said what you did about social media. I run and teach a beekeeper club and I get a lot of questions and comments about things they saw. And a lot of things will not work here in the desert like it does elsewhere.

  • @cluelessbeekeeping1322
    @cluelessbeekeeping1322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You're such a good teacher. Thanks for posting these videos. I learn so much from them!

  • @honeyhobbits8868
    @honeyhobbits8868 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for that word Ian! I find myself so excited and eager to help other beekeepers I forget about location.

  • @davemccomb9971
    @davemccomb9971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for all videos. Happy Easter to you and your family.

  • @thuffman44
    @thuffman44 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Ian! Thank you for spending your time sharing your progress. I live where it never freezes, and yet I am still most thankful to have the opportunity to understand your approach in terms of your management techniques. It's fascinating how this hobby can bring so many folks together to achieve a common good. Wishing you nothing less but the best of success for you & your honeybees 🐝🐝🐝☮️☯️

  • @julieenslow5915
    @julieenslow5915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations, things certainly look wonderful there! Your Nozema tests are awesome, your bees are doing well coming out of a tough winter, its really nice to see.

  • @popquizzz
    @popquizzz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That's not a hum, that's a ROAR! I wonder how long it will be before the next generation beekeepers ask, "What are newspapers?"

    • @christurley391
      @christurley391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The supply houses will soon have to stock merge paper. Lol

    • @Don.Challenger
      @Don.Challenger 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And a few years ago he would only need a single page - now, it's fewer newspapers, thinner editions and smaller page sizes.

  • @beth-rg8bm
    @beth-rg8bm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job on keeping your hives healthy... And a good call on not feeding the rest of the hive winter patties!
    Experience definitely pays off!

  • @beebob1279
    @beebob1279 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating information on the nutrition and getting the bees to fatten up for winter. I'll keep that in the back of my mind if that happens in our area again. Thanks

  • @bouvier1st1
    @bouvier1st1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So right you are! Location, location. Thanks for sharing and the reminder

    • @Don.Challenger
      @Don.Challenger 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the three bedroom unit "here" might not be the market favourite "there".

  • @rajbeekie7124
    @rajbeekie7124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am impressed you can recognize a queenless hum from other hums.

    • @Don.Challenger
      @Don.Challenger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ian, it seems, is just a humdinger.

  • @bradkkimberlin2000
    @bradkkimberlin2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I fed late actually put 15 box,s in the shed oct 27 with patty,s on them complete loss
    Iv been scratching my head wondering what happened the box,s that were fed early 100% survival
    Most came out as what you call a box. Lesson learned
    Thanks again for the posts

  • @apc7736
    @apc7736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well said, Ian. Even neighboring local beekeepers here in Ohio have different microclimates as well as different goals for their apiaries, all of which affect the choices we make.

  • @tonywestsbees6042
    @tonywestsbees6042 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. I use the same method of paper combining and sometimes if I don't catch it in time and have a laying worker box, I set it above a box with brood and active queen with #8 hardware cloth between them. The pheromones suppress the laying worker and in one week remove the wire and they combine just fine every time. Better to use the bees in queen-less hives to our advantage as it boosts population quickly.

  • @nathancaswell7861
    @nathancaswell7861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The beekeeper knows his bees.

  • @kchelius32_K8KNT
    @kchelius32_K8KNT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in Michigan and was also surprised to find no brood Sept 1 last year. Winter came very early for us. The bees seemed to know it was coming. My bees usually have brood well into October.

  • @johnn1a2
    @johnn1a2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad they are holding own with nosema. So right about social media. All bee keepers only my observation have an individual and personal approach to their apiaries. You get settled in so to speak .Every master chef do things their way nor change their approach when someone eludes how things should be done! Keep the great knowledge and videos coming thanks. Oh forgot to ask with a hive that you had nosema do you scorch said hive or just burn and destroy.

  • @cricketscorner6514
    @cricketscorner6514 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hell we have beekeepers within 10 miles apart , like you said what works for one will not work for another.👍👍

  • @1docg
    @1docg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm taking this opportunity to ask Why don't your hives all swarm? They all seem to be very full of bees when they are strong and healthy and you don't seem to be taking much action to prevent swarms. Many hobby beekeepers have swarming even with multi box hives that are nowhere nearly as crowded as your hives. I watch every video, thanks for all your efforts to educate us.

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dave Gross
      Remember...timing, at this time of year, that winter nest, simply put, concentrates only on switching out. Once the old winter bees are replaced, they will move into growth

  • @yvettepaulson4967
    @yvettepaulson4967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good video. Totally agree with not being able to the same across Canada with our bees. There are just too many variable conditions in beekeeping to do exactly the same as another beekeeper.

  • @mohawksniper79
    @mohawksniper79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right on nice one. Im trying to get into bees but i its a little hard to get set up im hoping to get a couple more hives built this summer then get some bees next spring.

  • @iceddevil205
    @iceddevil205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video. Question....no upper entrance for the top box of the combined hives? Also, so true on the comment of what works for one may not work for any other.....especially with the difference in geographic location....flowers, trees, bloom different times in different places...etc....there are some basic beekeeping rules that everyone must know and follow, clearly you have mastered them, but other than that, i never act on another beekeepers suggestion, I'll ponder and observe but we all know our own bees and act accordingly. You just proved why that should never be done. Bravo!

  • @user-jy3nd7lx6b
    @user-jy3nd7lx6b 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good method. I've used it several times!!!! I also just add a flavor to unite to colonies!!!!

  • @RoughAndWretchedRAW
    @RoughAndWretchedRAW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's just wild that the bees are looking so good this year after everything they endured last year.
    Tony lalonde. I bought some stuff from him.

  • @electricengineer624
    @electricengineer624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent job ,thanks 🙏 a lot

  • @russellkoopman3004
    @russellkoopman3004 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When one closes his ears and mind to different ideas he will stop growing and learning. Many ideas maybe dumb or wrong for your area but you need to always listen and try to sort it out to see if it makes sense. Trying out a different way of feeding on 6 hives was smart. You lost 4-6 hives out of 1,400 - not a big lose. If the idea was right you could have improved your overwintering of 1,400 hives. It is always smart to keep trying to do better and not rely on - Well I always did it that way. Good job Ian!! Keep learning.

  • @w4447
    @w4447 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make a good point what happens in Manitoba isn't the same as the issue others are having just 200 miles away. Just for point of reference though what losses can you expect realistically do to simple attrition? i think losses are normal to a certain extent. But what do you think your baseline loss is?
    P.S I really like watching your videos. Very knowledgable.

  • @wess1405
    @wess1405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Ian, what do You do if You find Nosema within Your hives?

  • @RoughAndWretchedRAW
    @RoughAndWretchedRAW 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yes! Perfect example is you are farther south than I. Our weather doesn't match up perfectly and the pussy willows here just popped so today the bees started bringing in natural pollen. It's very specific. When I pulled my supers off we still had a lot of bloom. Because the bees shut down early they used a whack of that to back fill the nest then I had to go to pails because my neighbors bees had found my open feed and were robbing open feed blind. So my hives got back filled early. Even then with the rain just before freeze up and cool temps and high humidity, I had a hell of an issue with humidity in the shed. 90% humidity in the shed for over two weeks right at the beginning. There was water running down my walls. At +4 C my dehumidifier wouldn't work either. then it finally got cold and dry out and I had to modify my vents to keep them from frosting shut. The first few weeks of winter were not a cake walk. If I hadn't been paying attention I would have lost them all. Was just a perfect storm Probably some uncured syrup. it was high humidity the days before and raining when I put them in. Then two weeks of high humidity minimum of 75% every day for two weeks after.
    Here's an interesting observation I made today. For the last month bees have been storming in and out of the hive bringing in Ultra bee and some syrup. I have spent a whack of time observing their spring behavior. There were no guards guarding any of the landing boards.Even the last two days the nearest beekeepers 34 hives found my ultra bee and flew away with what would be a weeks worth for my bees in under two days. Still no guarding. and the neighbors bees wern't doing anything to my hives.Then today at about noon I started seeing white, yellow and brown pollen starting to come into the hive and it ramped up hardcore by this afternoon in all 4 hives. this evening when it cooled down and the foraging slowed down all 4 hives had guards up right across the entrance. I just found it interesting. No guards since the 19th of march and now today with fresh pollen in the hive guarding becomes a priority.

  • @stanleyguedes2336
    @stanleyguedes2336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What kind of microscope do you have?

  • @Dstick1Spearfishing
    @Dstick1Spearfishing 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Advice know your bees and your area to make good decisions.

  • @vallotree
    @vallotree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you combine the two boxes is there an upper entrance also? Thanks

  • @stephen26448
    @stephen26448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you open up the hives in the winter and check them

  • @badassbees3680
    @badassbees3680 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never seen you open feed pollen that I remember only patties,do you feed pollen sub powder ever,?

  • @danskisbees7348
    @danskisbees7348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great information Ian. Do you have any idea why the bees hum like that when they are queenless?

  • @Chrismoore-qx3zq
    @Chrismoore-qx3zq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well said ian

  • @wendyjarrett903
    @wendyjarrett903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My ears are ringing about 11:30. :)

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wendy Jarrett
      Ha ha ha , ya but your ears would also be burning a bit earlier in this video, because of my yielded success

  • @beth-rg8bm
    @beth-rg8bm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it possible the food they were fed was contaminated?

  • @markheslin8745
    @markheslin8745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well said ! 😎

  • @scottgould294
    @scottgould294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you consider adding a few frames of eggs to the queenless hive to keep that colony (hope they create a queen )and also give a few frames of bees to the small queen hive to boost thsst colony? Possibly end up with two hives instead of one.

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scott Gould
      You need drones to create well meted queens, no drones,
      These are also old winter bees. Their time clock will not last the time needed to rear a queen and then rear a round of brood

    • @scottgould294
      @scottgould294 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog Ah. Good point. Brushed over that minor detail.

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Early spring, focus on boost or merger. Retain what survived as opposed to build

  • @morelmaster
    @morelmaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will you come back to the combined hive in a few days and condense down the frames of bees and brood into one box again? That is what I do in that situation because I run single brood box hives also.

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      john mizak
      Oh ya, along with a detailed queen assessment

    • @morelmaster
      @morelmaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      Right, a decent queen should increase her egg laying proportionate to the increase in bee numbers. Might take a week or so to accurately assess her.

  • @suzanneguiho4882
    @suzanneguiho4882 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a difference between pollen patties and the open bag with dry feed? What I understand is that the bees are getting pollen substitute from the bag. So the question is not feed or not feed a pollen substitute but whether or not it should be in the patty form or in a dry open air form? The only thing I see from your comments is that open air feed is open to rain etc. But it activates them in forraging and the patty does not. Is there something that I am missing?

  • @86offroad
    @86offroad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do any of the fields around your bee yards get sprayed with round up or similar? If so, what negative side affects do you notice?

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      86offroad
      Yes, spraying
      Zero side effects

    • @86offroad
      @86offroad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great thanks for replying. I have opertunityn for a field accross from our home but they do spray prior to planting and I was concerned.

  • @bennytroyer8897
    @bennytroyer8897 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    On those 6 that got late pollen sub the ones that died did they shit all over the inside , we had a bad run in one of the sheds and lost most of the colony’s all had patties on till October somtime just before going into the shed we pulled the unused patties , the had plenty of bees and honey but shit everywhere and dead

  • @christurley391
    @christurley391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're ethanol residue smells of brewers yeast. Isn't that an ingredient in bee polen supplement?

  • @007travelbug
    @007travelbug 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What magnification are you using for nosema inspection?

  • @hootervillehoneybees8664
    @hootervillehoneybees8664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had a queen start laying all drone brood .. cold wet windy couldn't find her .. so i get bright idea grab a nuc with a 140.00 dollar breeder queen id just bought week before.. add queen excluder news paper thought ill find drone laying queen later .. so few days later go look .. breeder queen got thru queen excluder and killed drone queen.. not even sure what i was doing but it worked .. have plenty of nucs to chose from

  • @Waddi2
    @Waddi2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting! How do you know they will accept the queen?

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Allan Waddington
      It’s up to the bees, not me, but slow release/merger increases the chances

  • @robertbennett6697
    @robertbennett6697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you say to the neighbors complaining about the "bothersome bees"?

  • @sherkhankhan6010
    @sherkhankhan6010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @hootervillehoneybees8664
    @hootervillehoneybees8664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No pollen sub in your winter bees gut .. intreasting to see what happens..

  • @sumitman54
    @sumitman54 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if they kill off the queen?

  • @lenoretalon9958
    @lenoretalon9958 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I just lost a queen. Two boxes of bees. I’ve been adding larva and egg frames from another hive. Hopefully they will make a new queen or I won’t get a laying worker. Lucky queen mr. beekeeper person😁. Pollen bound exists??

  • @beth-rg8bm
    @beth-rg8bm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TWO WEEKS?
    We have to wait two weeks... Man, that's just mean!

  • @billiamc1969
    @billiamc1969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use a push in cage and combine them immediately and release her in 2 days...

  • @cluelessbeekeeping1322
    @cluelessbeekeeping1322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you pulverize that feed for the little hungry bees?

    • @Don.Challenger
      @Don.Challenger 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not bee feed it's cattle (and particularly lactating ones) feed. But since the bees have interest in it, Ian might do an experiment (and as you are suggesting) blend some of it finer and feed it to a few random hives to see what affect it might have on their development. It must be useful to the cattle (cow/calf) operation and being an obvious bee attractant its use on the bee operation should be assessed.

    • @cluelessbeekeeping1322
      @cluelessbeekeeping1322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Don.Challenger There is this great old series called Connections by James Burke. Many of the discoveries of man kind were nothing more than byproduct. In this case, it could be a two fold use for byproduct!

  • @davemaloneyvideos
    @davemaloneyvideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can feeding patties kill six colonies? What is happening to the bees that causes them to die simply because they ate pollen sub? Was there too much ash and they were unable to defecate because of the cold?

    • @daviswaldner7102
      @daviswaldner7102 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My guess is too late to make a difference but good question

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      understand that our hives endure 5-6 months of confinement through winter

    • @greghawkins3985
      @greghawkins3985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog when Heather Matilla did her studies of FeedBee at Guelph she found supplement feeding later in the season was associated with higher winter loss. She couldn't say that this causes it or how, only that she saw it. So something might truly be going on as you saw.
      Very interesting observation of how bees reacted to August supplement feeding and that it seemed to benefit although not by increasing new brood.

  • @maxmagnus777
    @maxmagnus777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, could you elaborate on "unusual behavior" of that one hive that had nosema? Also how did you lower your nosema count? Third question, do you usually feed suplements to your bees late in autumn and during wintertime?

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      maxmagnus777
      Protein patty supplement, specifically
      Nutrabee

    • @maxmagnus777
      @maxmagnus777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog So just to be clear you feed protein supplement both in autumn and winter. I ask that because we here feed supplements ONLY after queens start laying eggs in early January and not before. We also have 2 frames of pollen during winter time in hives.

    • @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog
      @aCanadianBeekeepersBlog  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxmagnus777 , no feeding during winter. We feed spring, late summer into fall, then stop

    • @maxmagnus777
      @maxmagnus777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aCanadianBeekeepersBlog Ok that is a different approach. We place sugar patties at start of winter and then protein sugar patties jan-march. It makes big difference.

  • @campdavidsonfunctionaltrai8583
    @campdavidsonfunctionaltrai8583 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why not add a queen cell?

  • @mikes1345
    @mikes1345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Silly me! Thought newspapers were only good for bottoms of bird cages or housebreaking a puppy.

    • @Don.Challenger
      @Don.Challenger 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've occasionally been known to read one - but, yes, lots of uses beyond just information..

  • @robfitzgerald5439
    @robfitzgerald5439 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand how pollen supplement could kill a hive

  • @HappyLife-fh7nm
    @HappyLife-fh7nm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hi guys, do you know that in the holy quran, the divin book of muslims,
    there is a full chapter called The Bee, I quote from it
    16:68-69
    And your Lord inspired to the bee, "Take for yourself among the mountains, houses, and among the trees and [in] that which they construct.
    Then eat from all the fruits and follow the ways of your Lord laid down [for you]." There emerges from their bellies a drink, varying in colors, in which there is healing for people. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who give thought.