Am I crazy for thinking Silent Hill 4 was actually pretty okay? I'm NOT saying it's a great masterpiece or anything, I just didn't think it was as terrible as it's made out to be.
It felt like they took a lot of ideas from 4 and put it into PT. The Babysitting was horrendous...but I thought many of the creatures were some of the scariest designs in the series, like the Twin Victims, and the tall Patient ladies, though they were surprisingly easy when I finally had the courage to fight them (I wasn't really scared of any enemies from 1-3 other than the sewer monsters and jumping men from 1 and of course Pyramid Head in 2.)
SH4 has a very in depth lore and a very cool story, this excuse that " It wasn´t suposed to be a SH in the first place" is getting old and baseless, the game was being made by Team Silent so it was going have Silent Hill influence anyway, SH4 has a different approach but is a very solid game unlike what came after that.
+WankersCramp69 I think 5/ homecoming is the best in series and I've played them as they've came out since the first. Four was fine apart from the babysitting. People are just hipsters and are never satisfied when it comes to ongoing franchises. I actually thought Silent Hill 2 was the lesser of them (apart from origins). 3 had the best puzzles.
Gabe Scharf SH4 is a great game, but fanboys seems to be butthurt for the fact that the apartment isn't located in SIlent Hill, or some stupid shit like that
Gabe Scharf Nope, I liked it even if it was boring and escorting Eileen got old and bad quick but it had lore which tied a bit to sh 2 and 3. It wasn't "The room" with "silent hill4" pasted on. They actually put walter in it, that made it work. Twin perfect did a review, and a recap of silent hill 4 where they explained that it is still better than anything released afterwards. Apparently, Yamaoka was the producer and didn't do much to steer the project. The reason silent hill 1, 2 and 3 were so good were because the original team payed attention to the work and controlled the direction so they became what we know as silent hill.
Gabe Scharf you are not alone. I enjoyed SH4. And I am a TEAM SILENT PURIST. I completely disagree with what this dude is saying. NO we were not suckers. SH4 does not take place in SH.. yes that much is true. There is a TONNE of lore involved in SH4. Did he not read any of books or notes in the game? A lot of the clues and puzzles that appear in SH2 are actually mentioned in SH4. I mean for christ sake, James's dad is the GD superintendent of the building henry lives in. Did he forget that? SH4 is kind of like a dark horse SH. Not everyone can appreciate SH4, probably because people don't like reading or is not interested in any of the events that take place in SH. the world does not revolve around Harry, Cheryl or James.
Jeff Deezy SH4 is good but the backtracking to the earlier levels once more was a weird decision. Also, Eileen is forced to depend on Henry which wouldn't be a bad thing if it didn't cause her to get possessed because she get's left behind. Fetching her is annoying! Henry is a weak character, he's not the worst ever made but he's pretty lousy. Also, tank controls are not even optional. WHY? All in all, still a better game than anything released after SH4 and prior to P.T.
Still trying to pick up Downpour again after accidentally letting my friend start a new game over my saved one.... but.....numerous little Arkhamesque mini quests...mostly human-looking, kung-fu enemies that sometimes daren't even fight you and what-the-hell-is-happening-with-the-camera sure is making it a struggle..
@MoDiFyThEcAmErOn thanks :D sooner or later i wanna upload a video of the collection since theres a whole ton more people never get to see. seriously the monster designs in shattered memories were pretty sad. especially since they had some nice ones in homecoming, then took the backstep.
OH MY GOD! Is that Legaia 2 Duel Saga on the shelf behind you? *bows to your awesome choices in games* I say this because I love that game. Meanwhile I'm listening to what you say while trying to figure out what games you own that I love. And agreeing with 95% of what you say.
It did. Now I've only played SH1 and 2, [and SHSM] but even so, I really felt like it was a cohesive storyline. Not a connecting storyline, but a cohesive one.
Shattered Memories is lame as shit, full of ice monsters with weird puzzle heads and lame puzzles and shit. I dont know why people like it so much but aight
I actually appreciated Silent Hill Downpour for being different, yet still keeping an element of SH to the game. Not that it couldn't have used some improvements... but imo, it was better than 4 (and infinitely better than that other shit).
@bertbow9 Yeah, i just have so much stuff put away i have to dig it all out for the vid. might make it multipart for each individual console to make things easier
In my opinion, Silent Hill 4 was great. Like, it feels different from the first 3 games and sticks out but I think if you play it with an open mind, it makes for a very good time.
I feel the same exact way you do! I only subscribed to your videos a few days ago, and I must say I really enjoy knowing a fellow gamer nerd with the same thoughts of my favorite games
I HAVE researched it, and I can say with absolute certainty that just from the way the game plays, is designed, and FEELS, not to mention the intricacies of its story, it was ALWAYS intended to be part of the SH mythos... but as a Gaiden game, using the same unknowable forces that lie within Silent Hill to attempt to essentially create a miniature Silent Hill (that is, a sentient location capable of manefesting fears) inside Room 302. It's as much a SH game as Majora's Mask is a Zelda game.
I found SH2 is "one of" the best survival horror game, especially in terms of the storytelling. Amnesia is the best one in this current generation of gaming in my opinion.
4 was really scary and had a great story but, holy shit, it is not a fun game to play. It's the kind of game I can only enjoy once. I get so bored of going back and forth to Henry's apartment to manage his inventory, escorting Eileen who insists on melee-ing everything in sight with her handbag (taking tons of damage in the process), and having to revisit all the levels from the first half in the second half. Also, those monsters on the escalators. Fuck those monsters on the escalators. The ghosts, Walter, and the Twin Victims were all absolutely terrifying though.
I started with 2, which blew me away. Then I played 3, which I thoroughly enjoyed until I lost the plot halfway through because I hadn't played SH1. So I played SH1 using an emulator, and it's awesome as well, if a little dated, especially after just having finished 3. SH4 had some great ideas and atmosphere, but didn't really feel like SH, and having to go through ALL levels again on one long escort mission kinda pissed me off. The rest just wasn't Silent Hill, period.
Whoa dude, you have the Shadow Hearts collection?? Sometimes I feel I'm the only one who's played this series. FAN-TAS-TIC series!! I'd love to see you make a review on it sometime as well.
I feel like if Knonami just had enough faith in creating new properties, The Room and Shattered Memories could have been the start of their own franchises. Shattered memories wasn't a Silent Hill to me, it was a bait and switch, they just used the names. They mislead you in the game and they think they gave you a twist ending when it wasn't mind blowing just like oh, okay sure.
Silent Hill 4 had some flaws but it was still a good game. Nobody liked babysitting, nobody liked having to go through two loading screens to get to an item box and to save, but the room portion to me was kinda scary. Halfway through the game the room becomes a threat that you have to deal with over time. The story of Walter and the murder conspiracies was actually interesting to me. I did miss the lack of boss fights as those have always been a major thing for me to look forward to in any Survival Horror game. The lack of puzzles was disappointing. The combat was fun and those crunchy sound effects were satisfying, and you didn't feel like you were safe after the first half of the game.
I actually really liked Shattered Memories. Granted it wasn't the scariest game in the world, but I liked the story. It was kinda a throwback to SH1 with you playing as Harry Mason looking for your daughter Cheryl. Yes, the monsters are pretty stupid but that doesn't matter.........FUCK IT THERE WAS NO PYRAMID HEAD SO THIS GAME SUCKS ALL THE ASS IT COULD POSSIBLY SUCK. I need an aspirin...
i've played through all silent hill games (i'm still working on downpour) i actually enjoyed homecoming quite a bit - i didn't have the true silent hill feel to it but it was still very good. silent hills 1 - 4 will always have a special place in my heart as the true silent hills. as for the others ones, i try not to think about it haha
Haha, loved the video. Very right on. Silent Hill 1: Sadly, i never played it. But i've seen alot of it, and it looks fantastic and creepy. Sh2: I liked it alot, great atmosphere, but i don't like it near as much as everyone else for some reason. Either way, still a gold treasure in the SH universe. Sh3: My first SH game i played. Still my fave SH and fave game of all time. Aaah the glory days and it's graphical majestry on the PC version which i hold so dear to me.
Silent Hill 3 is my favourite entry to the series, it surpasses 2 graphically, the atmosphere is amazing and scary the freaking walls bleed and actually hurt Heather on hard modes, and of course the monsters are pretty great. Sure the story is kinda of repetitive of 1 but that's because, well, it IS a direct sequel to SH1 and there will be repetitive plots. Obviously 2 surpasses 3 storywise, the characters in 3 were given more personality and movement, and the music was great. That's just My personal opinion, though. Also it's kind of annoying that SH Fanboys only care about 1 and 2 and don't even give 3, or any of the other games a try and still bitch on them. But It'd be awesome to see AlphaOmegaSin to a rant on the Silent Hill HD collection!
@pookieizzy7 there was quite a few aspects about it that made it really refreshing. the problem was that it wasn't scary. hell even when they threw monsters at you, you knew they were coming minute the whole place was wall-to-wall ice. i just want something like the 1st or 2nd game again :(
I've been a SH fan since the 1st, i was so young back then. The series is my fav out of all games, even if it's not the best. I loved SH 4 it was creepy, creepier than the other for me. I loved that they were trying something new. SH origins was a bit meh, i could have done without it but it was on okay game. I'm not one of those fans that jump on the bandwagon and hate on 4. Though i miss the original style, the change isn't really bothering me
This series is kind of an acquired kind of taste.. I appreciate these type games but for some reason I find it so hard to bypass Uncharted and go back to SH..
I just beat Silent Hill 2 and I can now understand why people revere it as much as they do. I just started playing SH3 right afterwards, (probably should've played the first one beforehand, but oh well) and I find the reception of it to be rather interesting. While it's wildly considered the last true game in the series, it also lives in the shadow of the previous titles. My guess is because it didn't have the innovation of the first, nor the strong character study of the second. As for Shattered Memories, there's no excuse for it to not have multiple endings because SH2 had just that. Depending on how you play the game actually changes the outcome. I got the Leave ending btw.
Well, Shattered Memories does have multiple endings, if you count the end dialogue as such, only it's not actually tied to the psychology tests, but rather on other subtle gameplay related choices.
I said it didn't have the innovation of the first, not that it wasn't better. There's a difference. As for SH2, I wasn't saying the characters where better than in 3. It just has a more introspective main character and a more unique plot. SH3's plot is very similar to the first (being a legitimate sequel after all), but that's what makes it more forgettable to a lot of fans. Or so it seems from my point of view.
Rabbit Ronin more like the way it was told more than the story itself, many fans after playing silent hill 2 said "go back to the series roots" which is why the story of SH3 is what is was
Personality, absolutely. But depth...? I'm not so sure about that. I think Heather acts way more natural than James and speaks her mind more. But James still has the more introspective journey. We discover who he is from not what he says, but rather from the world around him. There is a very "David Lynch" vibe to SH2 in that it reminds me a lot of Mulholland Drive in terms of story telling. This dream like world manifesting from a person's guilt is more gripping to me than yet another evil cult wanting to summon a pagan god.
I LOVED Silent hill 1 to 4. For a while actually, the third one was my favorite, until I realized the second was better overall. But STILL, I loved it, and the fourth too. Sure, it wasn't really Silent Hill, but it was still a really good survival horror game nevertheless, 10 times better than the shit they come out with nowa days. Thank god for Dead space coming to the rescue...
I was REALLY laughing my ass off when you were describing "Silent Hill - Shattered Memories", since that was the EXACT same feeling I got when I was playing it. Glad to know I'm not alone! Also, what did you think of "Silent Hill - Downpour?" One more thing, I've heard bad things about "Silent Hill - Book Of Memories", is it really that bad?
The main aspects I liked about the SH series was the noise/music and the weird camera angles. Those are what scared me. The monsters never really did anything for me since they annoyed me more than anything ("crap, if I die here, I have to do this whole section again").
I agree with everything you said here. Good news though, I know it came out recently, after you made this rant, but Silent Hill Downpour is really really really awesome. Playing it, I felt like I felt when I played the first couple Silent Hill games.
i have Silent Hill Downpour in my library of games to play and just haven't had time to get around to it. is downpour any good? i bought it for 20 so not much of a waste there if it sucks. i hated homecoming. i'm about halfway through and stopped playing cause it sucked so bad. anyways, 1 & 2 were fucking fantastic. haven't played 3 yet, still on my list of games i need to play :( i just hope the next one will be really damn good like 1 and 2. we can only hope, can't we???
@Treasurefan02 not to sure, i just read that they decided to switch to a western developer and they have had it there since origins. cranked out quite a few titles within a short time span no less. makes me wonder if they are really giving the games they work on the time they really need. kojima has been a bit overly busy i'd say. especially whenever we could be getting other awesome titles like snatcher 2 or maybe ZOE3. i'd buy either in a heartbeat
this is addressed to the Piccolo918 guy- if you noticed, this video was made back in 2010, so I don't think he had any knowledge of an interview being done a few months ago with Konami about Downpour "going back to Silent Hills roots".Unless he had a time machine. If that's the case, I want to get my hands on some of that action. Also Homecoming and Downpour were both steaming dumps in the SH series. I'd rather play SH1 any day over those
Hell no, that was the creepiest part! The controller usually allows distance from the game, but the Wii remote/cell phone makes it IMMEDIATE to you. The radio static next to flash points nearly gave me a nervous breakdown waiting to find it/heart attack when I finally got close enough!
I took a looong break from Silent Hill. I didn't play 4 or origins, well i tried to play origins but found myself frustrated with the way you had to go through mirrors and reexplore shit... i got maybe 2 hours into it and quit. I just got Shattered memories and figure i am about half way. I love it so far. It's a little frustrating during the chase events at times but all in all the story and atmosphere are AMAZING! What one should i rent next? I want to try homecoming or downpour i think.
silent hill 4 happened because half the studio who did 2 split. half did 3. half did 4. And wanted to try something diffetent. still love 1-4. the rest i'm eh with
I agree with you completely.... After the room, which i liked nonetheless, the series went down hill... And its gonna take a miracle to get the series back on track :/
I rented Silent Hill: Homecoming and i played it like for 4 hours and got to a part where i had no clue what to do or go. and i really hate how when a group of enemies attack you it can mean death or take almost all your health.. and i was playing on Normal.
I too am a long-time Silent Hill fan and have played all of these titles. I feel your pain about the franchise never since pulling off the greatness of Silent Hill 2 (I actually like SH 1 the most, as a raw survival-horror masterpiece). However, I think that more than anything else, the Silent Hill games have always been about the atmosphere and the disturbing themes and emotions they press/invoke onto the player. I would argue that Konami has always accomplished this task in all the Silent Hill games, and that's why I for example, have enjoyed playing all of them to date. Considering the fact that there is a constant need for game developers to stay up-to-date with the video gaming market (production values, play control, style, etc.), I give them an 'A' for effort in preserving the feel of a Silent Hill game while trying to tailor the series to the needs of modern gamers and newcomers.
First, when I saw the intro I was all like WOAH! EVERY GAME I LOVE! SH, Fatal Frame, the Tales series, to name a few. Secondly, I can agree with most of this. SH 4 was really supposed to be Room 305 but they decided to slap a couple of Silent Hill references all over it. The games started to suck after Team Silent handed it over. I own SH 1 - 4 and Origins. I like SH 4, but I'm not a big fan of the ghosts. I think the game could have been successful on its own. Origins is just bad...
The individuals of Team Silent have moved on to many other things and to expect them all to each drop their new lives and projects to make a new game in a series they feel they're done with is very presumptuous. It's like getting Spielberg back to recapture the glory of Indiana Jones: look how that turned out!
@MysteryAGMLegend yeah dead space is godly no doubt. the fear games are pretty decent too, but kinda hard to say they are full fledged survival horror, but they have traces of it here and there. just really really wish we would have gotten fatal frame 4. now those games are a mindfuck
Silent Hill 4 was actually pretty creepy and is probably the creepiest game since #2. Granted the room aspect (constantly having to return to it and such for EVERYTHING) was too much for any gamer to bear and a big flaw of the game, but it had a great story aspect that you were trapped within your apartment watching events through peepholes and windows to get a glimpse of what was happening in the outside world. The room itself felt alive. 1-3 were the best but you can't ignore 4.
I completely agree with you. SH 2 is THE best, in my opinion. However, after 4 it all went down the shitter. I would LOVE to play Downpour, though. Is it any good?
@devilshomie Well, that just goes to show how amazing this series really is since no one can decide on which game is the best. They can decide which game is their favorite and which game they hated the most, but someone will come along and flip the board. This is not a bad thing, the fact that someone sees Silent Hill 3 as the best in the series proves that the game IS great or else everyone would of hated it.
@AlthenasGuard most definitely, i loved clock tower 1 & 2. the third one was quite a different but still ok. the first one though scared the hell out of me when i was a kid, just wish they would port fatal frame 4 over here to the states
The faces you make tell the whole story without words....I bought SH4 new the week it came out and played it and beat it..I dont think it cas come out if its case after that.
Konami seems to have two images they put on a lot of their games as a fail-safe to make sure that no matter how bad that game turns out, they will still get money back. The first is the tittle Silent Hill, which you explained in this video. The second is Alucard. For a while, seemed to try to put Alucard in every Castlevania they possibly could. And if that simply couldn't work, mention him by name, that ought to get the fans riled up (looking at you, Portrait of Ruin!).
Shattered Memories could have been a fresh new title that had new people in it, yet a similar flow. The guy lived in SH, and finds himself back there somehow and begins having his delusions manifested, like in the fan SH CG film "No Escape". He begins seeing all his loved ones/friends around him and other weird crap, until it actually winds upon him or something or other. "Lisa" could have been some woman he used to know, some type of past echo of an overdoser. Could have been so much better.
Thinking of buying that game and I have all three systems (360 / PS3 / PC). How is it better on PS3? (wanting opinions before I go out and buy it, not trying to be an ass)
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Am I crazy for thinking Silent Hill 4 was actually pretty okay? I'm NOT saying it's a great masterpiece or anything, I just didn't think it was as terrible as it's made out to be.
Luke Raven NO, real fans can appreciate SH4. there is a lot of lore in SH4.
+Luke Raven i like it.
It felt like they took a lot of ideas from 4 and put it into PT. The Babysitting was horrendous...but I thought many of the creatures were some of the scariest designs in the series, like the Twin Victims, and the tall Patient ladies, though they were surprisingly easy when I finally had the courage to fight them (I wasn't really scared of any enemies from 1-3 other than the sewer monsters and jumping men from 1 and of course Pyramid Head in 2.)
SH4 was pretty good. It's actually my favorite SH game, what makes me love it with a fiery passion is that it's a weird af game with weird af stuff.
I only hated when you had to backtrack to the same area again and again! It was so fucking boring, but I still finished it because I love Silent Hill.
Silent Hill isn't Silent Hill without Team Silent.
SH4 has a very in depth lore and a very cool story, this excuse that " It wasn´t suposed to be a SH in the first place" is getting old and baseless, the game was being made by Team Silent so it was going have Silent Hill influence anyway, SH4 has a different approach but is a very solid game unlike what came after that.
The one iconic creature and best creature konami made was... Pyramid head
But I like Silent Hill 4.
+WankersCramp69 I think 5/ homecoming is the best in series and I've played them as they've came out since the first. Four was fine apart from the babysitting. People are just hipsters and are never satisfied when it comes to ongoing franchises. I actually thought Silent Hill 2 was the lesser of them (apart from origins). 3 had the best puzzles.
It's also called, Silent Hill 4 - The Room!
Love the Room!
HD Collection broke my heart, literally.
In the three years since this rant, the SH series has just got worse....Homecoming and Downpour both suck poundingly.
Silent Hill 2 all day...everyday. Going down those apartment hallways in the pitch dark still creeps me out
Silent hill 3 is my favorite 2 is totally amazing also.
J Riley totaly agree, SH3 was the best
I guess I'm the only one who likes SH4, lol.
Gabe Scharf
I think 4 is just as good as 3.
Although 2 is still the best.
Gabe Scharf SH4 is a great game, but fanboys seems to be butthurt for the fact that the apartment isn't located in SIlent Hill, or some stupid shit like that
Gabe Scharf Nope, I liked it even if it was boring and escorting Eileen got old and bad quick but it had lore which tied a bit to sh 2 and 3. It wasn't "The room" with "silent hill4" pasted on. They actually put walter in it, that made it work.
Twin perfect did a review, and a recap of silent hill 4 where they explained that it is still better than anything released afterwards.
Apparently, Yamaoka was the producer and didn't do much to steer the project. The reason silent hill 1, 2 and 3 were so good were because the original team payed attention to the work and controlled the direction so they became what we know as silent hill.
Gabe Scharf you are not alone. I enjoyed SH4. And I am a TEAM SILENT PURIST. I completely disagree with what this dude is saying. NO we were not suckers. SH4 does not take place in SH.. yes that much is true. There is a TONNE of lore involved in SH4. Did he not read any of books or notes in the game? A lot of the clues and puzzles that appear in SH2 are actually mentioned in SH4. I mean for christ sake, James's dad is the GD superintendent of the building henry lives in. Did he forget that?
SH4 is kind of like a dark horse SH. Not everyone can appreciate SH4, probably because people don't like reading or is not interested in any of the events that take place in SH. the world does not revolve around Harry, Cheryl or James.
Jeff Deezy SH4 is good but the backtracking to the earlier levels once more was a weird decision. Also, Eileen is forced to depend on Henry which wouldn't be a bad thing if it didn't cause her to get possessed because she get's left behind. Fetching her is annoying!
Henry is a weak character, he's not the worst ever made but he's pretty lousy.
Also, tank controls are not even optional. WHY?
All in all, still a better game than anything released after SH4 and prior to P.T.
They complained before the game was released. After being launched, SH2 took over as most fans' favorite SH game.
SH4 is way underrated. it has a great soundtrack and the atmosphere is still disturbing. it has some of the best imagery in the series
Still trying to pick up Downpour again after accidentally letting my friend start a new game over my saved one.... but.....numerous little Arkhamesque mini quests...mostly human-looking, kung-fu enemies that sometimes daren't even fight you and what-the-hell-is-happening-with-the-camera sure is making it a struggle..
I was laughing and nodding my head in agreement the whole time. Thanks for making my work day better.
@MoDiFyThEcAmErOn
thanks :D sooner or later i wanna upload a video of the collection since theres a whole ton more people never get to see.
seriously the monster designs in shattered memories were pretty sad. especially since they had some nice ones in homecoming, then took the backstep.
The Room has a phenomal soundtrack.
If Kojima and Del Toro can't lift Silent Hill back to respectability then nobody can.
I just hope that's still happening now that Kojima is leaving Konami. I'm losing hope, but staying wishful.
OH MY GOD! Is that Legaia 2 Duel Saga on the shelf behind you? *bows to your awesome choices in games* I say this because I love that game. Meanwhile I'm listening to what you say while trying to figure out what games you own that I love. And agreeing with 95% of what you say.
Silent Hill 1, 2, and 3 were my favorites. 4 was dumb, Homecoming was painful, Shattered was idiotic, and the newest one is... unpromising...
It did. Now I've only played SH1 and 2, [and SHSM] but even so, I really felt like it was a cohesive storyline. Not a connecting storyline, but a cohesive one.
I dont know about you guys, but I absolutely LOVED SH 3 and SH 4
Silent Hill 4 wasn't a bad game. Everything after, however, was. I hear Shattered Memories wasn't too bad though.
Shattered memories is great. If you like 2 you will like it.
Shattered Memories is lame as shit, full of ice monsters with weird puzzle heads and lame puzzles and shit. I dont know why people like it so much but aight
they are making an HD remake of Silent Hill 2 and 3
If only you knew at the time
I actually appreciated Silent Hill Downpour for being different, yet still keeping an element of SH to the game. Not that it couldn't have used some improvements... but imo, it was better than 4 (and infinitely better than that other shit).
@bertbow9
Yeah, i just have so much stuff put away i have to dig it all out for the vid. might make it multipart for each individual console to make things easier
In my opinion, Silent Hill 4 was great. Like, it feels different from the first 3 games and sticks out but I think if you play it with an open mind, it makes for a very good time.
I feel the same exact way you do! I only subscribed to your videos a few days ago, and I must say I really enjoy knowing a fellow gamer nerd with the same thoughts of my favorite games
I HAVE researched it, and I can say with absolute certainty that just from the way the game plays, is designed, and FEELS, not to mention the intricacies of its story, it was ALWAYS intended to be part of the SH mythos... but as a Gaiden game, using the same unknowable forces that lie within Silent Hill to attempt to essentially create a miniature Silent Hill (that is, a sentient location capable of manefesting fears) inside Room 302. It's as much a SH game as Majora's Mask is a Zelda game.
This video is pretty good "or i'll take metal gear solid away from you". Given the fact that Kojima is making the next Silent Hill, NICE!
Now, we just have different tastes. I enjoy the storyline of 1, 3, and 4 more than 2. I still love 2, just like the other storylines better.
I think Homecoming had the best bosses.
I found SH2 is "one of" the best survival horror game, especially in terms of the storytelling.
Amnesia is the best one in this current generation of gaming in my opinion.
4 was really scary and had a great story but, holy shit, it is not a fun game to play. It's the kind of game I can only enjoy once. I get so bored of going back and forth to Henry's apartment to manage his inventory, escorting Eileen who insists on melee-ing everything in sight with her handbag (taking tons of damage in the process), and having to revisit all the levels from the first half in the second half. Also, those monsters on the escalators. Fuck those monsters on the escalators. The ghosts, Walter, and the Twin Victims were all absolutely terrifying though.
i have to admit i loved the music in sh origins
I started with 2, which blew me away. Then I played 3, which I thoroughly enjoyed until I lost the plot halfway through because I hadn't played SH1. So I played SH1 using an emulator, and it's awesome as well, if a little dated, especially after just having finished 3. SH4 had some great ideas and atmosphere, but didn't really feel like SH, and having to go through ALL levels again on one long escort mission kinda pissed me off.
The rest just wasn't Silent Hill, period.
I luv this guy's rants/reviews/comments etc. Rock on man !!!
Whoa dude, you have the Shadow Hearts collection?? Sometimes I feel I'm the only one who's played this series. FAN-TAS-TIC series!! I'd love to see you make a review on it sometime as well.
Silent hill 4 was awesome
I feel like if Knonami just had enough faith in creating new properties, The Room and Shattered Memories could have been the start of their own franchises. Shattered memories wasn't a Silent Hill to me, it was a bait and switch, they just used the names. They mislead you in the game and they think they gave you a twist ending when it wasn't mind blowing just like oh, okay sure.
I still can't decide which is better: SH2 or SH3 XP I LOVE 'EM BOTH!!!
Silent Hill 4 had some flaws but it was still a good game. Nobody liked babysitting, nobody liked having to go through two loading screens to get to an item box and to save, but the room portion to me was kinda scary. Halfway through the game the room becomes a threat that you have to deal with over time. The story of Walter and the murder conspiracies was actually interesting to me. I did miss the lack of boss fights as those have always been a major thing for me to look forward to in any Survival Horror game. The lack of puzzles was disappointing. The combat was fun and those crunchy sound effects were satisfying, and you didn't feel like you were safe after the first half of the game.
This is my first time viewing 1 of your videos and I just gotta say that was hilarious! Subbed...
Well, we got some good indie titles to keep us surviving; that's something.
And this was made before Downpour lol.
I prefer Silent Hill 1 over 2.
Same here
I love his opening here
I actually really liked Shattered Memories. Granted it wasn't the scariest game in the world, but I liked the story. It was kinda a throwback to SH1 with you playing as Harry Mason looking for your daughter Cheryl. Yes, the monsters are pretty stupid but that doesn't matter.........FUCK IT THERE WAS NO PYRAMID HEAD SO THIS GAME SUCKS ALL THE ASS IT COULD POSSIBLY SUCK.
I need an aspirin...
Don't like Silent Hill 4? Silent Hill 4 was good, and why would Pyramid Head be in SH4 anyway?
It's sad that Silent Hills got canceled. That playable teaser alone was one of the most horrific experiences I've ever had in gaming.
i've played through all silent hill games (i'm still working on downpour) i actually enjoyed homecoming quite a bit - i didn't have the true silent hill feel to it but it was still very good. silent hills 1 - 4 will always have a special place in my heart as the true silent hills. as for the others ones, i try not to think about it haha
Silent Hill 1 - 3 were awesome.
Can't really get into the others.
can't wait for a video about Silent Hill LAGpour :3
Haha, loved the video. Very right on.
Silent Hill 1: Sadly, i never played it. But i've seen alot of it, and it looks fantastic and creepy.
Sh2: I liked it alot, great atmosphere, but i don't like it near as much as everyone else for some reason. Either way, still a gold treasure in the SH universe.
Sh3: My first SH game i played. Still my fave SH and fave game of all time. Aaah the glory days and it's graphical majestry on the PC version which i hold so dear to me.
I was unimpressed with the first half of SH4 but the second half had good challenge and mindfucks
Silent Hill 3 is better than 2...just gonna lay that out there.
Also HOLY CRAP, this is an old video lol.
This was in 2010 fast foward to now and it has only gotten worse.
Silent Hill 3 is my favourite entry to the series, it surpasses 2 graphically, the atmosphere is amazing and scary the freaking walls bleed and actually hurt Heather on hard modes, and of course the monsters are pretty great. Sure the story is kinda of repetitive of 1 but that's because, well, it IS a direct sequel to SH1 and there will be repetitive plots. Obviously 2 surpasses 3 storywise, the characters in 3 were given more personality and movement, and the music was great. That's just My personal opinion, though. Also it's kind of annoying that SH Fanboys only care about 1 and 2 and don't even give 3, or any of the other games a try and still bitch on them.
But It'd be awesome to see AlphaOmegaSin to a rant on the Silent Hill HD collection!
@pookieizzy7
there was quite a few aspects about it that made it really refreshing. the problem was that it wasn't scary. hell even when they threw monsters at you, you knew they were coming minute the whole place was wall-to-wall ice.
i just want something like the 1st or 2nd game again :(
I've been a SH fan since the 1st, i was so young back then. The series is my fav out of all games, even if it's not the best. I loved SH 4 it was creepy, creepier than the other for me. I loved that they were trying something new. SH origins was a bit meh, i could have done without it but it was on okay game. I'm not one of those fans that jump on the bandwagon and hate on 4. Though i miss the original style, the change isn't really bothering me
This series is kind of an acquired kind of taste.. I appreciate these type games but for some reason I find it so hard to bypass Uncharted and go back to SH..
lol and then downpour came out, man that was one hella of a missed up SH game
I just beat Silent Hill 2 and I can now understand why people revere it as much as they do. I just started playing SH3 right afterwards, (probably should've played the first one beforehand, but oh well) and I find the reception of it to be rather interesting. While it's wildly considered the last true game in the series, it also lives in the shadow of the previous titles. My guess is because it didn't have the innovation of the first, nor the strong character study of the second.
As for Shattered Memories, there's no excuse for it to not have multiple endings because SH2 had just that. Depending on how you play the game actually changes the outcome. I got the Leave ending btw.
Well, Shattered Memories does have multiple endings, if you count the end dialogue as such, only it's not actually tied to the psychology tests, but rather on other subtle gameplay related choices.
Tommi Saukkonen it does have them, it's just that it's a fifteen second clip at the end
I said it didn't have the innovation of the first, not that it wasn't better. There's a difference.
As for SH2, I wasn't saying the characters where better than in 3. It just has a more introspective main character and a more unique plot. SH3's plot is very similar to the first (being a legitimate sequel after all), but that's what makes it more forgettable to a lot of fans. Or so it seems from my point of view.
Rabbit Ronin more like the way it was told more than the story itself, many fans after playing silent hill 2 said "go back to the series roots" which is why the story of SH3 is what is was
Personality, absolutely. But depth...? I'm not so sure about that. I think Heather acts way more natural than James and speaks her mind more. But James still has the more introspective journey. We discover who he is from not what he says, but rather from the world around him.
There is a very "David Lynch" vibe to SH2 in that it reminds me a lot of Mulholland Drive in terms of story telling. This dream like world manifesting from a person's guilt is more gripping to me than yet another evil cult wanting to summon a pagan god.
I bet you were pissed when they cancelled Silent Hills. PT was excellent, got everyone hyped. Then Konami pulled the plug.
I LOVED Silent hill 1 to 4. For a while actually, the third one was my favorite, until I realized the second was better overall. But STILL, I loved it, and the fourth too. Sure, it wasn't really Silent Hill, but it was still a really good survival horror game nevertheless, 10 times better than the shit they come out with nowa days. Thank god for Dead space coming to the rescue...
Yeah, I really enjoyed the game too. It definitely was the weakest game from Team Silent, but it was still fun to play.
I love Homecoming! I'm in the middle of a playthrough now.
I was REALLY laughing my ass off when you were describing "Silent Hill - Shattered Memories", since that was the EXACT same feeling I got when I was playing it. Glad to know I'm not alone! Also, what did you think of "Silent Hill - Downpour?" One more thing, I've heard bad things about "Silent Hill - Book Of Memories", is it really that bad?
The main aspects I liked about the SH series was the noise/music and the weird camera angles. Those are what scared me. The monsters never really did anything for me since they annoyed me more than anything ("crap, if I die here, I have to do this whole section again").
Got a 7 overall from Game Informer :) I'm looking forward to playing it.
I agree with everything you said here. Good news though, I know it came out recently, after you made this rant, but Silent Hill Downpour is really really really awesome. Playing it, I felt like I felt when I played the first couple Silent Hill games.
i have Silent Hill Downpour in my library of games to play and just haven't had time to get around to it. is downpour any good? i bought it for 20 so not much of a waste there if it sucks. i hated homecoming. i'm about halfway through and stopped playing cause it sucked so bad.
anyways, 1 & 2 were fucking fantastic. haven't played 3 yet, still on my list of games i need to play :( i just hope the next one will be really damn good like 1 and 2. we can only hope, can't we???
@Treasurefan02
not to sure, i just read that they decided to switch to a western developer and they have had it there since origins. cranked out quite a few titles within a short time span no less. makes me wonder if they are really giving the games they work on the time they really need.
kojima has been a bit overly busy i'd say. especially whenever we could be getting other awesome titles like snatcher 2 or maybe ZOE3. i'd buy either in a heartbeat
.......book of memories (shivers with disgusts)
this is addressed to the Piccolo918 guy- if you noticed, this video was made back in 2010, so I don't think he had any knowledge of an interview being done a few months ago with Konami about Downpour "going back to Silent Hills roots".Unless he had a time machine. If that's the case, I want to get my hands on some of that action. Also Homecoming and Downpour were both steaming dumps in the SH series. I'd rather play SH1 any day over those
Hell no, that was the creepiest part! The controller usually allows distance from the game, but the Wii remote/cell phone makes it IMMEDIATE to you. The radio static next to flash points nearly gave me a nervous breakdown waiting to find it/heart attack when I finally got close enough!
@AlphaOmegaSin whats ur take on the redone voices for silent hill 2...to me the new ones are disappointing
I took a looong break from Silent Hill. I didn't play 4 or origins, well i tried to play origins but found myself frustrated with the way you had to go through mirrors and reexplore shit... i got maybe 2 hours into it and quit. I just got Shattered memories and figure i am about half way. I love it so far. It's a little frustrating during the chase events at times but all in all the story and atmosphere are AMAZING! What one should i rent next? I want to try homecoming or downpour i think.
silent hill 4 happened because half the studio who did 2 split. half did 3. half did 4. And wanted to try something diffetent. still love 1-4. the rest i'm eh with
I agree with you completely.... After the room, which i liked nonetheless, the series went down hill... And its gonna take a miracle to get the series back on track :/
I actually think three is better than two
BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing will ever be better then Silent Hill 2 *NOTHING!!!!!!!!*
Nah.
+codytoaster816 Depends
tbh objectively it is better but sh2 still trumps it in atmosphere and story
I am playing 3 over 2 because my ps2 emulator lags a lot when playing the FMVs
I rented Silent Hill: Homecoming and i played it like for 4 hours and got to a part where i had no clue what to do or go. and i really hate how when a group of enemies attack you it can mean death or take almost all your health.. and i was playing on Normal.
I too am a long-time Silent Hill fan and have played all of these titles. I feel your pain about the franchise never since pulling off the greatness of Silent Hill 2 (I actually like SH 1 the most, as a raw survival-horror masterpiece). However, I think that more than anything else, the Silent Hill games have always been about the atmosphere and the disturbing themes and emotions they press/invoke onto the player. I would argue that Konami has always accomplished this task in all the Silent Hill games, and that's why I for example, have enjoyed playing all of them to date. Considering the fact that there is a constant need for game developers to stay up-to-date with the video gaming market (production values, play control, style, etc.), I give them an 'A' for effort in preserving the feel of a Silent Hill game while trying to tailor the series to the needs of modern gamers and newcomers.
@Mykayel Silent Hill 3 was my favorite, Shattered Memoires I felt took everything SIlent Hill stood for, the puzzles the monsters
First, when I saw the intro I was all like WOAH! EVERY GAME I LOVE! SH, Fatal Frame, the Tales series, to name a few. Secondly, I can agree with most of this. SH 4 was really supposed to be Room 305 but they decided to slap a couple of Silent Hill references all over it. The games started to suck after Team Silent handed it over. I own SH 1 - 4 and Origins. I like SH 4, but I'm not a big fan of the ghosts. I think the game could have been successful on its own. Origins is just bad...
The individuals of Team Silent have moved on to many other things and to expect them all to each drop their new lives and projects to make a new game in a series they feel they're done with is very presumptuous. It's like getting Spielberg back to recapture the glory of Indiana Jones: look how that turned out!
@MysteryAGMLegend
yeah dead space is godly no doubt. the fear games are pretty decent too, but kinda hard to say they are full fledged survival horror, but they have traces of it here and there. just really really wish we would have gotten fatal frame 4. now those games are a mindfuck
Silent Hill 4 was actually pretty creepy and is probably the creepiest game since #2. Granted the room aspect (constantly having to return to it and such for EVERYTHING) was too much for any gamer to bear and a big flaw of the game, but it had a great story aspect that you were trapped within your apartment watching events through peepholes and windows to get a glimpse of what was happening in the outside world. The room itself felt alive. 1-3 were the best but you can't ignore 4.
I completely agree with you. SH 2 is THE best, in my opinion. However, after 4 it all went down the shitter. I would LOVE to play Downpour, though. Is it any good?
You should do another video, SH Downpour... that's all i'm saying haha
@devilshomie Well, that just goes to show how amazing this series really is since no one can decide on which game is the best. They can decide which game is their favorite and which game they hated the most, but someone will come along and flip the board. This is not a bad thing, the fact that someone sees Silent Hill 3 as the best in the series proves that the game IS great or else everyone would of hated it.
@AlthenasGuard
most definitely, i loved clock tower 1 & 2. the third one was quite a different but still ok. the first one though scared the hell out of me when i was a kid, just wish they would port fatal frame 4 over here to the states
The faces you make tell the whole story without words....I bought SH4 new the week it came out and played it and beat it..I dont think it cas come out if its case after that.
Konami seems to have two images they put on a lot of their games as a fail-safe to make sure that no matter how bad that game turns out, they will still get money back. The first is the tittle Silent Hill, which you explained in this video. The second is Alucard. For a while, seemed to try to put Alucard in every Castlevania they possibly could. And if that simply couldn't work, mention him by name, that ought to get the fans riled up (looking at you, Portrait of Ruin!).
I actually had a good time with Downpour. It was not as good as the originals, but it had a lot of potential, and definitely had some good ideas.
Shattered Memories could have been a fresh new title that had new people in it, yet a similar flow. The guy lived in SH, and finds himself back there somehow and begins having his delusions manifested, like in the fan SH CG film "No Escape". He begins seeing all his loved ones/friends around him and other weird crap, until it actually winds upon him or something or other.
"Lisa" could have been some woman he used to know, some type of past echo of an overdoser. Could have been so much better.
9:43 Oh, the irony.
That doesn't make the new ones any more to character. I didn't complain my way through any of the new games, so I know better.
And then, the HD Collection...
Silent hill 4 was pretty good. So was Shattered Memories
Oh indeed it does, plus the storyline is quite good. And it is interesting to see "Stormy" Silent Hill.
Thinking of buying that game and I have all three systems (360 / PS3 / PC). How is it better on PS3? (wanting opinions before I go out and buy it, not trying to be an ass)