(TRAILER) full video here: davemosstuning... The MT / FZ-07 is about as basic a motorcycle as can be purchased, particularly the suspension bits. Here's one properly outfitted, properly kitted.
I found the Dave Moss channel in '16 or '17, when I was setting up my new '16 R1 for track duty at COTA. Now I'm back, setting up a MT07. His MO is exceptional as he explains what he is doing, in a way that new riders can understand, so they can learn how to work on bike set up themselves-a skill they will use as long as they ride. In this sense, he is a stand out resource for the world moto community, making the sport more enjoyable, and safer, for riders everywhere. Good tuning starting points, by platform, are not easy to find, and Daves' have always been very close to where I wind up. Very important for riders learning to set up their bikes to understand that bike set up is unique to the individual, like a tailored suit...involving preferences, body dimensions, skill level, ect. Having a good starting point, to return to if needed, saves much time and frustration, as well as making the process more safe.
Thanks for your post Peter. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to share you POV with those who are curious on validity of videos or are visiting DMT's channel for the first time to understand what this is all about. Good luck with the MT07 project.
Hey Dave great video as always. i went all-out tuning-wise on my FZ as well. Recommend you raise the forks by 5mm to get better turn-in. Stock the bike is way too neutral with too little weight on the front.
So ponder a different perspective. When you brake, the forks shorten in length. With that action weight is transferred to the front of the bike, so the bike turns.
I just ordered the K-Tech Razor R Lite for my 2015 FZ-07 in hopes to shore up the suspension. I'm also going to do the fork oil. I saw one of your recent video where you helped a guy in New Zealand and you used Bel Ray 15W, so I went and ordered a bottle of that. But now in a few comments I see you mention to use 20W oil. Which do you suggest for my body weight of 185 without gear? Thanks for all you're doing for the bike community Dave!
My FZ07 is hella sketchy when going through the twisties. My front end bounces so bad, rear isn’t too bad. But it doesn’t look like it’s an easy adjustment for the front?? I mean from what I’ve been reading people have been replacing the spring and fluids to alleviate the front end issues.
@@patricksonful If you got the fork preload adjuster, you screw it into the forks. TYou still need to shorten the preload spacer by 20mm from the original length
@@catalystreactionsbw hi mate so to summarize everything i need to first shorten the preload adjuster which is inside the fork by 20 mm and after doing that i need to install the preload adjuster on the top n then tighten it by 10 mm is that wat u mean .The only thing i was trying to achieve after buying the adjuster was that i did not had to remove the fork i saw your informative video when u help that kiwi man .
@@patricksonful install the preload cap with no preload on it so it is all the way counter clockwise and ride to see how much travel you use. If you are too close to bottom out/black felt pen mark, add preload in 2.5 turn increments clockwise.
As far as I am aware, there are no more track days at Laguna for Carter's at the Track. We have one event left at Thunderhill over Thanksgiving. Every other track day provider has their own suspension specialist.
I'd love to know what I can do to improve the pogo stick effect on my 2019. It's either too bouncy on the rear or to stiff and the front is sketchy in the twisties. I love the bike but I don't trust it to push to my limits. Preferably something somewhat affordable. Or the most affordable option possible (you know... covid-19.)
Sorry Dave for the off topic, but can anyone tell what seat is that in that 07? Is that foam glued in top of the stock seat? I you like a seat with more grip and a raving visual Those rearsets are arashi, how are those holding, anyone we experience on ones?
@@catalystreactionsbw nop, nothing in the comments below.. Dave by the way I have a 2019 mt07 with 11.000Km, I haven't touched the stock settings from the dealer, in the from I have static preload and I use if I'm not wrong 110mm of travel, in the rear I like the feeling of stiffer suspension but I have zero static sag, I ride street aggressive every day and my fear of softening the rear is that I'll have less weight on the front
@@filiperibeiro86fr That's a bummer, I remember she did comment on her bike so that might have to be a PM. Check on the amount of shock travel you are using to see if softening the shock is even an option!
Reflash the ECU and remap the fuel table. You add fuel for throttle positions so the engine braking is much smoother. You can also change the clutch for a "slipper clutch" so that when you decelerate the clutch slightly disengages and the engine braking is reduced.
@@catalystreactionsbw Very intresting. This particular is not marginal. In fact they use small springs and pistons. Tks for this important consideration.
You can do anything in regards to surrogate parts BUT you must make sure the forks you transplant are the same length (compare off the bike) and then check the rake and trail of the triple clamps you will be using. Head bearings and races may also need changing.
Hey there, i got MT07 from 2015 with 22k on it, i have never done anything to the forks, last time i took out the covers and the spacer popped up from it, does it mean that i have to change oil now? and also I was using it since i got it on 6k and I rode around 20k in 1,5 yrs does it mean i have to exchange shock ?
For that type of fork 6-8,000kms is the optimal time to change the fork oil. If you weigh less than 70K use 15w oil, over that use 20w oil to the same volume you remove: Dump & Run Motorcycle Fork Oil Change: NonAdjustable Damping Rod Telescopic & Upside down Forks located here: davemosstuning.com/?s=dump+and+run
I found the Dave Moss channel in '16 or '17, when I was setting up my new '16 R1 for track duty at COTA. Now I'm back, setting up a MT07. His MO is exceptional as he explains what he is doing, in a way that new riders can understand, so they can learn how to work on bike set up themselves-a skill they will use as long as they ride. In this sense, he is a stand out resource for the world moto community, making the sport more enjoyable, and safer, for riders everywhere. Good tuning starting points, by platform, are not easy to find, and Daves' have always been very close to where I wind up. Very important for riders learning to set up their bikes to understand that bike set up is unique to the individual, like a tailored suit...involving preferences, body dimensions, skill level, ect. Having a good starting point, to return to if needed, saves much time and frustration, as well as making the process more safe.
Thanks for your post Peter. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to share you POV with those who are curious on validity of videos or are visiting DMT's channel for the first time to understand what this is all about. Good luck with the MT07 project.
that fz07 looks beast! bet it would be a very nice track!
Hey Dave great video as always. i went all-out tuning-wise on my FZ as well. Recommend you raise the forks by 5mm to get better turn-in. Stock the bike is way too neutral with too little weight on the front.
PS the Metzeler M7rr are not the stock tyres ;)
@@dennisrkb True but that's what I use on my MT07 as well.
love the cocky intro. immediate sub. good shit
2:51 LED on forks...? Nice!
Turn signals. Can pick them up on amazon cheap
@@mt-07slayer60 yea, but I am not sure if police like it...
@@MujoNovak that depends where you live i guess. Different laws everywhere
If the steering turns more while trail braking that means the forks are too stiff? I think thats what I heard...
So ponder a different perspective. When you brake, the forks shorten in length. With that action weight is transferred to the front of the bike, so the bike turns.
Then track fork travel with a zip tie so there is no guessing at all about travel used.
I just ordered the K-Tech Razor R Lite for my 2015 FZ-07 in hopes to shore up the suspension. I'm also going to do the fork oil. I saw one of your recent video where you helped a guy in New Zealand and you used Bel Ray 15W, so I went and ordered a bottle of that. But now in a few comments I see you mention to use 20W oil. Which do you suggest for my body weight of 185 without gear? Thanks for all you're doing for the bike community Dave!
Excellent on the Razor shock. Big advantage. Use the 15w and trim the spacer 10mm, same oil level.
My FZ07 is hella sketchy when going through the twisties. My front end bounces so bad, rear isn’t too bad. But it doesn’t look like it’s an easy adjustment for the front?? I mean from what I’ve been reading people have been replacing the spring and fluids to alleviate the front end issues.
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@@catalystreactionsbw hi i have got the front fork adjuster from ebay from m factory but to adust it go i need to compress it by 10 mm i m 95 kg
@@patricksonful If you got the fork preload adjuster, you screw it into the forks. TYou still need to shorten the preload spacer by 20mm from the original length
@@catalystreactionsbw hi mate so to summarize everything i need to first shorten the preload adjuster which is inside the fork by 20 mm and after doing that i need to install the preload adjuster on the top n then tighten it by 10 mm is that wat u mean .The only thing i was trying to achieve after buying the adjuster was that i did not had to remove the fork i saw your informative video when u help that kiwi man .
@@patricksonful install the preload cap with no preload on it so it is all the way counter clockwise and ride to see how much travel you use. If you are too close to bottom out/black felt pen mark, add preload in 2.5 turn increments clockwise.
Are you coming to Laguna Seca anytime soon? Would love to get my suspension adjusted by Dave moss. Lol
As far as I am aware, there are no more track days at Laguna for Carter's at the Track. We have one event left at Thunderhill over Thanksgiving. Every other track day provider has their own suspension specialist.
Soooo you don’t want engine braking when you’re off the throttle 🤔
preference. not too much.
The fz/mt engine breaking is choppy.
@@daveryan5703 not if you rev-match?
I'd love to know what I can do to improve the pogo stick effect on my 2019. It's either too bouncy on the rear or to stiff and the front is sketchy in the twisties. I love the bike but I don't trust it to push to my limits. Preferably something somewhat affordable. Or the most affordable option possible (you know... covid-19.)
Check shock settings for preload and static sag, then choose 15, 20 or 30w depending on your weight.
Engine breaking on the MT series is ruthless! I fucking hate it!
Sorry Dave for the off topic, but can anyone tell what seat is that in that 07? Is that foam glued in top of the stock seat? I you like a seat with more grip and a raving visual
Those rearsets are arashi, how are those holding, anyone we experience on ones?
I believe that she posted very early on in the comments about the seat, so scroll back. I hope I am not wrong on that.
@@catalystreactionsbw nop, nothing in the comments below.. Dave by the way I have a 2019 mt07 with 11.000Km, I haven't touched the stock settings from the dealer, in the from I have static preload and I use if I'm not wrong 110mm of travel, in the rear I like the feeling of stiffer suspension but I have zero static sag, I ride street aggressive every day and my fear of softening the rear is that I'll have less weight on the front
@@filiperibeiro86fr That's a bummer, I remember she did comment on her bike so that might have to be a PM. Check on the amount of shock travel you are using to see if softening the shock is even an option!
How do you "take out" engine braking?
Reflash the ECU and remap the fuel table. You add fuel for throttle positions so the engine braking is much smoother. You can also change the clutch for a "slipper clutch" so that when you decelerate the clutch slightly disengages and the engine braking is reduced.
for an Mt 07 Razor mono shock or Ohlins s46dr1? the difference in term of price is not so big. Worth it or not? Tks a lot
Modern aftermarket equipment is very similar in price as you have found out. I would choose based on service locations and parts availability.
@@catalystreactionsbw Ok but that you have a lot of experience what do you think about Razor mono shock components?
@@MrAgarthi All I have seen have performed well with no failures. They like all smaller shocks need more frequent servicing.
@@catalystreactionsbw Very intresting. This particular is not marginal. In fact they use small springs and pistons. Tks for this important consideration.
Can I add upside down forks to an mt07?
You can do anything in regards to surrogate parts BUT you must make sure the forks you transplant are the same length (compare off the bike) and then check the rake and trail of the triple clamps you will be using. Head bearings and races may also need changing.
AP Motoarts includes upside down forks in their race kit for the MT-07.
Bike with no engine breaking????
Rob geezers a penis
On my xsr700 2020, the engine braking is way to much, it twists the front end. If I do it it's jus one gear down
Hey there, i got MT07 from 2015 with 22k on it, i have never done anything to the forks, last time i took out the covers and the spacer popped up from it, does it mean that i have to change oil now? and also I was using it since i got it on 6k and I rode around 20k in 1,5 yrs does it mean i have to exchange shock ?
For that type of fork 6-8,000kms is the optimal time to change the fork oil. If you weigh less than 70K use 15w oil, over that use 20w oil to the same volume you remove: Dump & Run Motorcycle Fork Oil Change: NonAdjustable Damping Rod Telescopic & Upside down Forks located here: davemosstuning.com/?s=dump+and+run
Fz07 suspension almost killed me. Death wobble when going 80mph on a straight road.
wtf
Not the bike's fault
Does anyone know the name of the guy with the white bike or even his contact information? Thx
So you tune 10 bikes a day 365 days a year? Seems like a quantity over quality type of guy
As an average, but over the course of that number of days it is a couple of hours per day as opposed to full work days.