I built one. It’s about 56g with a Caddx Turtle. 75g all up weight. It doesn’t fly quite as well, of course, but it’s pretty sweet. I’ll have some new footage on my channel soon.
For optimal flight performance you’ll want to try and keep it right around 40g dry. Anything above 46-48g dry starts to get slight washouts in hard maneuvering
Devin Jones the general flight time for any quad is around 3 mins and for this quad you’ll get that with a 300mah lipo. You can use up to about a 550mah to get around 5-6mins of flight time. Alternatively if you fly slower and less aggressively you’ll get longer flight times
Yes, no issues pushing the 11,000kv motors with the 5A ESCs. I did also try 13,500kv and it smoked the ESCs after a few flights. EMAX Avon 4 blade props are THE BEST prop for this setup
I actually prefer the Mob7 camera over the WolfWhoop C5. I just used the C5 on this build since I was running a separate VTX. The Mob7 cam is an AIO that has the VTX as part of it. The Mob7 camera has better image detail and a wider FOV than the C5 but the C5 is still pretty good
My build is nearly identical and it handles great, but it shakes a lot. Not a high frequency shake, but more elike a bobble in the air. Do you experience this a lot? Ive never tried tuning for a plastic frame and bf is so different now, I hope it's something dumb. (I'm using gemfan 2035's, maybe that's it?)
I did have that same problem when running the Gemfan 2035 props. Switching over to the EMAX 3 blade or 4 blade props fixed it. The Gemfan props are flimsy and flex during flight and also seem to be unbalanced
How did you get around the fact the standoffs on the Beta85X frame are too short for the Mobula7 canopy that you used? Even with less than 10 degrees of camera tilt, it touches the flight controller.
I can fully screw down the Mobula7 canopy onto the 75mm and 85mm beta frames without the camera touching the FC when using the Wolfwhoop C5 Camera. It’s close but doesn’t actually touch at all. If I use the Z02 camera it seems to have a bit of a ‘chin’ that sticks down which will touch so I just add a little hot glue on the FC and chin of the cameras PCB so that they don’t touch and cause a short but I’m still able to adjust from 0 to about 55 degrees of camera tilt
@@BGUFF Thanks. I got the motors and frame to do a trial run with the Mobula7 electronics, but the standoffs have thrown a wrench into the entire plan. Now I know that neither an integrated VTX nor the Trashcan/Mobula7 HD VTX I was thinking about using will fit. Since the VTX you used is not for sale, which one would you recommend that doesn't lock me into BetaFPV's semi-proprietary ecosystem of camera mounts and canopies (like the Z02 would)? The Caddx Firefly might work if I can find room to VHB mount it, but it's only 25mw.
zorilla0 you could use the Z02 25-200mw VTX. I’ve used it on other builds and instead of using the pins to connect to the FC I just run small wires so the VTX can be placed where it needs to in order to fit within the Mob7 canopy. The other VTX option would be the new TBS Nano VTX. I have not used it before but I know TBS makes very good products and I use the Unify on all of my 5” builds and they are bulletproof.
@@BGUFF TBS anything is way overkill for anything I would build, but it looks like that's the only viable choice here since the Z02 comes with a camera, which you've mentioned is potentially too tall. It's double what I was expecting to spend on the VTX, but maybe it will be worth it to get something that won't start breaking up the moment I fly behind trees.
@@BGUFF The Mobula7 canopy and recommended camera from the build came in today and I can't get the camera to actually fit inside of it. It clips in--barely--and pops out with the tiniest amount of force. I'm guessing you used hot glue here as well? I'm not keen on the idea of blobbing glue all over a fresh build, so I may just scrap this and go with a an EOS2 camera and a 3D print canopy (can't use the Mobula7 upgrade or Trashcan canopies to mount the EOS2 because those are also too low). This will suck because it's an extra $30 on top of all the previous gotchas that have added up so far, but I don't see any other choice.
Yes, I am running props out but have my idle set to around 4.5%. If they get too heavy then they will wash out. What’s your weight before adding a battery?
@@BGUFF Hey just picked up a stock 85 X w 1105s and its 62.5 grams dry. Even with a lighter batt do you think there's any way to get it not to wash out ?
I just buit the same setup and your wright my friend This is like a magic setup. I put a caddx eos2 whit a tpu canopy so mine is 44gr. Any chance to get your tune? Btw i just subscribe and hit the bell😀
whats kv 1103..??
my motor 1103 8000kv, enough..??
Yes 1103 8000kv should be enough for an 85mm whoop. They would be even more efficient than the 10,000kv or 11,000kv 👍🏽
@@BGUFF ahhh😭😭 buy again..
So good! Love it!
props in or props out ?
This is props oot
What amp ESC’s did it have. The 5’s scare me on 2s. Thoughts thanks
Since toothpick parts difficult to get in asia. I might be convert to 85mm frame.
Sick shredding bro! 👍
Wow. It's amazing. Subbed and likedl!!
Thanks!
So great! Stellar performance! It would great with an HD camera.
I built one. It’s about 56g with a Caddx Turtle. 75g all up weight. It doesn’t fly quite as well, of course, but it’s pretty sweet. I’ll have some new footage on my channel soon.
Can you still do those acro moves well with the 450s also? Putting together an 85x :p
The HD version is pretty heavy but you can still do acro with 450mah lipos. Just gotta watch out for washouts when using larger and heavier LiPos
@@BGUFF Thanks! I just have some 450s id like to use, different shape so ill use a strap i think. THose Beta 350s look about right also
@@BGUFF I'm building a non HD version so do you think the 450s will be ok minus the HD cam ?
Yeah the 450s will perform a lot better without the added weight of the HD cam 👍🏽
Ya thought so. Just awaiting my frame and 1103s. Appreciate the reply and liked the vid! ;) @@BGUFF
So sick!!
its a dump question but does this frame ( 85x ) handle 2.5 in , emax tri blade props ?
How many gram of payload we can add ?
For optimal flight performance you’ll want to try and keep it right around 40g dry. Anything above 46-48g dry starts to get slight washouts in hard maneuvering
@@BGUFF do you know how to improve flying time ?
Devin Jones the general flight time for any quad is around 3 mins and for this quad you’ll get that with a 300mah lipo. You can use up to about a 550mah to get around 5-6mins of flight time. Alternatively if you fly slower and less aggressively you’ll get longer flight times
@@BGUFF can you pls give me your mail Id pls I have subscribe your channel I need your help to make good micro drone
5A ESC is that enough for 1103 11k motor ? This propellers 4blade or 3 blades are better?
Yes, no issues pushing the 11,000kv motors with the 5A ESCs. I did also try 13,500kv and it smoked the ESCs after a few flights. EMAX Avon 4 blade props are THE BEST prop for this setup
Very nice!
Link to props isn't working for me.
Add "" before it (copy-paste).
Is the Beta85X Frame compatible with 1103 engine holes? I want to make a HD Whoop with Caddx Turtle.
Yes it is 👍🏽
How much better is the Wolf C5 cam vs mob7 stock ?
I actually prefer the Mob7 camera over the WolfWhoop C5. I just used the C5 on this build since I was running a separate VTX. The Mob7 cam is an AIO that has the VTX as part of it. The Mob7 camera has better image detail and a wider FOV than the C5 but the C5 is still pretty good
Thanks for the reply. Good to know ! Cheers @@BGUFF
Amazing piloting! Would this work with a mobula 7 fc?
Yep. Any ‘Whoop’ FC will work
Nice! Where did you get the props ?!
On amazon 👍🏽 www.amazon.com/dp/B07RXMJJSM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_I7drEb3XFD0H7
You have great flying skills. I may have to build this. I have some 1103 motors laying around needing a home.
My build is nearly identical and it handles great, but it shakes a lot. Not a high frequency shake, but more elike a bobble in the air. Do you experience this a lot? Ive never tried tuning for a plastic frame and bf is so different now, I hope it's something dumb. (I'm using gemfan 2035's, maybe that's it?)
I did have that same problem when running the Gemfan 2035 props. Switching over to the EMAX 3 blade or 4 blade props fixed it. The Gemfan props are flimsy and flex during flight and also seem to be unbalanced
Sick, sick I tell you!
Amazing!!! Love it!
How did you get around the fact the standoffs on the Beta85X frame are too short for the Mobula7 canopy that you used? Even with less than 10 degrees of camera tilt, it touches the flight controller.
I can fully screw down the Mobula7 canopy onto the 75mm and 85mm beta frames without the camera touching the FC when using the Wolfwhoop C5 Camera. It’s close but doesn’t actually touch at all. If I use the Z02 camera it seems to have a bit of a ‘chin’ that sticks down which will touch so I just add a little hot glue on the FC and chin of the cameras PCB so that they don’t touch and cause a short but I’m still able to adjust from 0 to about 55 degrees of camera tilt
@@BGUFF Thanks. I got the motors and frame to do a trial run with the Mobula7 electronics, but the standoffs have thrown a wrench into the entire plan. Now I know that neither an integrated VTX nor the Trashcan/Mobula7 HD VTX I was thinking about using will fit.
Since the VTX you used is not for sale, which one would you recommend that doesn't lock me into BetaFPV's semi-proprietary ecosystem of camera mounts and canopies (like the Z02 would)? The Caddx Firefly might work if I can find room to VHB mount it, but it's only 25mw.
zorilla0 you could use the Z02 25-200mw VTX. I’ve used it on other builds and instead of using the pins to connect to the FC I just run small wires so the VTX can be placed where it needs to in order to fit within the Mob7 canopy. The other VTX option would be the new TBS Nano VTX. I have not used it before but I know TBS makes very good products and I use the Unify on all of my 5” builds and they are bulletproof.
@@BGUFF TBS anything is way overkill for anything I would build, but it looks like that's the only viable choice here since the Z02 comes with a camera, which you've mentioned is potentially too tall. It's double what I was expecting to spend on the VTX, but maybe it will be worth it to get something that won't start breaking up the moment I fly behind trees.
@@BGUFF The Mobula7 canopy and recommended camera from the build came in today and I can't get the camera to actually fit inside of it. It clips in--barely--and pops out with the tiniest amount of force. I'm guessing you used hot glue here as well?
I'm not keen on the idea of blobbing glue all over a fresh build, so I may just scrap this and go with a an EOS2 camera and a 3D print canopy (can't use the Mobula7 upgrade or Trashcan canopies to mount the EOS2 because those are also too low). This will suck because it's an extra $30 on top of all the previous gotchas that have added up so far, but I don't see any other choice.
Do you run props out and up idle to 6 ? Just built one w 1103s and having washouts
Yes, I am running props out but have my idle set to around 4.5%. If they get too heavy then they will wash out. What’s your weight before adding a battery?
Will have to weigh it at my folks house as we've no scales here. Will get back to you @@BGUFF
Okay. Mine weighs 41g for reference. You should be good with no washouts up to about 50g dry
Ok good to know. Thanks! @@BGUFF
@@BGUFF Hey just picked up a stock 85 X w 1105s and its 62.5 grams dry. Even with a lighter batt do you think there's any way to get it not to wash out ?
What your super rate, RC Rate, and expo set at if you dont mind?
What pids are Young use?
I’m pretty much using the stock 75x PIDs. P’s around 60 and I’s around 70 and D’s around 40
Almost my same build I am doing.
Great Job! I am uploading mine today!
What PIDS work well for this build?
I am just using the stock 75X PIDs or at least something very close
Does the motors bolt right up?
Yes. The 1103 motors have the same mounting pattern as the stock 85X 1105 motors so they mount with no modifications required.
I just buit the same setup and your wright my friend
This is like a magic setup.
I put a caddx eos2 whit a tpu canopy so mine is 44gr.
Any chance to get your tune?
Btw i just subscribe and hit the bell😀
Thanks for the sub! I believe I am just using the stock 75X PIDs and then I just applied my own rates
Waterpik = Propguarded Toothpick Killer :)
How does this fly compared to your 112mm 2.5" 2S 1103 build?
This build is a lot lighter than the 112mm build so it’s a lot more agile in the air and since it has ducts it survives crashes a lot better also
👍😎👍
Man it shreds! WANT!!
Props Emax Avon or Avant?
Props are Emax Avon