the 2022 FTR Carbon was the best looking one of the lot. the new ones are a bit Meh, plus as you said the price, it pushes it out of the competition for the bikes in this power range. here is Australia , the FTR Sport is 7k or so more than the MTO9SP or duke 890R, 5K more than the 765RS and even a grand more than a Streetfighter V2.
Went with the ducati monster cuz lightness, equipement, heat of exhaust collector on ftr (tho ducati still heat a bit), price…. But main factor was the ridiculous range of the 12L of ftr… comon indian! Give more! Tried ftr carbon and looked so good. And love the tubular rear wheel hold! Sexy « industrial » style And the new tft display from the chief was a great addition as previous « cheaper » ftr were old tech… kinda wish we had a kawasaki z900rs style tho but hey can’t have all
@@thomasbouvier3203 120 mile range is perfectly manageable. More would be nice, but it's not a deal breaker. By the time I've travelled far enough to need filling up, I'm ready for a stop anyway.
well i often go for a 200km ride... and if you hit it a bit in the mountain, well you are below, in mountain, where gas station are not that often... Quite frustrating. its manageable but too low for my use. Also, i go to work with and there is 160 to go and come back ... some on highway where i barely can do it... No go sadly. monster make it twice and i m happy with it :) @@markellott5620
I like it! Really good look. I would like to see a scrambler model derived from this bike, hopefully lighter. Thanks for the video Motobob, very interesting, and also the glasses.
I have a 2023 Sport and absolutely love it!!! Dynotune, decat, Sawicki Speed slip on and mine stands up in the first 3 gears with just a bump of the throttle... Get out in 35 degree air and its like a turbocharger was added. Crazy rowdy bike!!!
Nice bike Rob, love that motor and had it in the Victory Octane, comes across like a bigger XSR700 or old school Monster.. Could you do a back to back test with Tim on the FTR v Sportster S or Monster SP? JB 🏴 👋 💡
Loved the FTR when it first came out, but now it's just another naked road bike and there's far better, lighter road nakeds out there. By making it 'better' they've lost the reason I'd buy one....
Brilliant Review Bob 👏 Real Muscle Bike. Loved the 👓 glasses they look great and make perfect motorcycle sense. I'd perfer the FTR in a classic version. Still think the Kawasaki z 900 is the bike King of Cool
The 2022 FTR R Carbon is still the best looking. My wife did 16k km already on it and she loves it. Indeed the stock version has some comfort problems but you can make it into an incredible comfortable machine with these mods: 1. Decat, K&N filter + Lloyds secret sauce tune (no more jerkiness, fiddling or cold start issues) 2. Sadleman seat + ProTaper handlebars + Gilles rearset (very comfortable position) 3. Suzuki GSXR link for the gear rod (no more false neutrals or problems between 5 to 6, also clicky gear changing makes it perfect) There you go, now you have the best looking bike, the best character and now the best comfort!
What would you consider a great WINTER bike. Something that is reliable in the cold. Good grip, doesn’t mind being dirty, not affected by Road grit much. Won’t kill you in the wet?😊
I ride a Kawasaki Z900 SE in all kinds of weather. Low seat, smooth throttle, shifting, and handling. Also a rain mode. Super easy to ride fast or slow.
You have an interesting opinion of "flat foot" because it looks like you are on your toes on both feet, that is not flat foot. Having seen this bike in person, it looks better than in video, very cool looking small maching.
I've kept my 1st generation FTR because it just looks so good. I agree, it is a bit compromised, but it defies categories and I just love that about it. The new one, whilst nice, is starting to lose the individuality.
My favourite was the original and the base model with the round clock. I'd rather have my old Buell Ulysses, though. I bet you have never ridden the XB12X.
They should build something similar to the MT-01 with their bigger water cooled V twin used on the Challenger. I find it attractive, specially on that paint scheme. HOWEVER, the negatives are too strong for me. Tiny fuel tank, too short suspension travel (at least on the rear) and too heavy. The massive muffler can probably be fixed easily for a lot of $. Why does it get an adjustable brake lever but not a clutch one ?
You can't call a bike a "sport" if you don't tweak the engine even a bit... Tiny improvements, paint job and a bellypan won't be enough for me, especially at 5kg extra on top of what is already a heavy bike... Lower seat is nice though 😊
The Rally looks great, but the sport versions are looking a bit cheesy and juvenile...with bright colors that wouldn't look out of place on a Yamaha...
Looks better (apart from the white).. but why the hell cant they add tank that then needs fueling before you need a piss..?!... case point.. why do you need maps when you have to keep stopping for gas and then can ask for directions. haha..
Everywhere. Everyone. What's with all the tiny tanks in the last 2 decades? "Oh.......these run on fuel? You actually wanted to go further than 50 miles?"
the grey on the 2023 carbon was definitely the wrong choice. I wish the frame, tail section, shock spring, rims, etc. were red on the carbon. bike like that should pop as you say. i drove one once, it was a very nice bike. I am not a fan of the sport's fairings and extra plastic bits though, this bike looks best when it embraces its flat track look. I mean, you sorta said it in the video...its chunky, other bikes are lighter...handle better and cost less...so why choose a FTR? cause its the only flat track/badsass looking bike out there...in that guise its beautiful and unapologetic...to add generic looking bits to it only detracts. The Sport version is the one to get for sure in terms of options and cost...just wish it had better color/graphic options...like a "sport heritage" where they take the black one, put the red wheels on, the carbon tank stickers/graphics and leave off the extra plastic bits...that would be money right there.
Only three people complain that their rear sets are too high and too far back. Harley Davidson people, my grandmother and this guy. I will say this about the FTR.. the feeling of being swindled with that bitchin prototype tracker masterpiece floating in 2018, & that piece of S#%T pile that became production in 2019 is in my rear view. This new bike is actually,, dare I say surprisingly good🤯Have you guys ever ridden one one w/17’s? Literally the best thing Polaris, err Indian Motor Co has come out with in the past 5 yrs. Still ugly mind you.., but a perfect balance of a street machine with the capability of doing track days with some basic suspension tuning, slicks, and upgraded brake pads. Can’t believe I’m saying this about an Indian😂
Nothing wrong with the any of the early models, I purchased the 2020 FTR with 18 & 19 inch wheels because I love the old flat track style with spokes, However, I have redesigned all of its bodywork and decal graphics as pictured in my profile above, with an Evel Knievel Stars and Stripes and lowered the seat height in the process, to my knowledge there are now nine different FTR models but they all look pretty much the same other than decals and colours, I must admit that the early models got quite hot between the legs during a good blast through the twistys in the summer months so I designed a ram-air intake on the left side of the engine that seems to have cured the problem, I guess what I am trying to say is the designer should have taken a break in 2021, just saying,..Otherwise I Love Absolutely Everything About It,.. OAP Wales UK.
Guys Guys, I think there’s a misunderstanding going on here. I was talking about when Indian teased us for one year with the FTR prototype bike prior to the production model that has essentially been the same for the last five years . I understand the purpose of concept bikes is to stir the interest in potential buyers and gauge interest for manufacturers. I also understand that a vehicle in prototype form could differ greatly from concept due to cost, safety, emissions, noise, etc. That said, I feel cheated that almost nothing from the prototype bike they hyped came to fruition of what we can purchase today. Does this make sense now ? Copy/paste link below. I know you guys have seen this b4. Such a sick bike. Ahh what could have been😔 th-cam.com/video/UNrQDMZUxKk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QKbtg3EThOTimzgP
@@noonespecial1217 .. Fair play, taken out of context, understand and now agree with your argument, Oh there was one annoying thing that I didn't mention in my last comment: Indian Customer Service here in the UK is Shyte, I now carry out my own services and repairs for peace of mind.
Gotta love guys who buy flat track style bikes to get a super sport 🤣 also 60-70 is second gear buddy 🤣 shoulda kept the 19/18 combo! I’d myself never buy a 17” ftr, not what it’s meant to be. You want a sport bike but a sport bike… or tune this gurl, de-cat/de-baffle, put a K&N in her and do 150 no problem with a real flat track bike not a poser “road focused mode” 🤣
I've never sampled the FTR1200. I did take the Scout out on demo and absolutely hated it. If the FTR engine is anything like the Scout, no thanks. Way too much vibration, felt like it didn't want to rev, wasn't all that quick, suspension beat me up after only 20 minutes, didn't particularly like the sound for a Vtwin. FTR better be seriously different than the Scout.
Happy with "flatfoot" so don't complain that foot pegs are high. You can't have a cake and eat it. Need for flat-footing is a nonsense. I say it over and over and over.... (Yes but beginners...) Beginners shouldn't ride bikes like this. (Yes but confidence...) You should have confidence with balls of your feet. Thumb up, great job otherwise
Very mixed comments. I loved the look of the original. Still quite like the looks of that. Bikini fairing thing is ugly. Agree with others commenting from Australia. Price is out there. But we pay through the nose for everything. Unlikely to ever ride one. Certainly can't afford one.
Might need a proper dyno tune and ECU flash to smooth out the throttle if possible. That's how a lot of bikes are these days with the throttle by wire.
Not really the same. Ducati monster is a pretty sporty bike where you sit hunched over. I had the previous generation monster a while ago. And the newer ducati monsters look like shit now, would definitely not buy them. Indian looks far better
In my opinion, this bike is americas hypermotard. Fun to rip around and blast through some corners.
the 2022 FTR Carbon was the best looking one of the lot. the new ones are a bit Meh, plus as you said the price, it pushes it out of the competition for the bikes in this power range. here is Australia , the FTR Sport is 7k or so more than the MTO9SP or duke 890R, 5K more than the 765RS and even a grand more than a Streetfighter V2.
I have the S. I didn't like the carbon, preferring the classic Indian maroon colour. Gorgeous looking thing.
😮 Man, they sure have priced themselves out of the market, at least down under.
Went with the ducati monster cuz lightness, equipement, heat of exhaust collector on ftr (tho ducati still heat a bit), price…. But main factor was the ridiculous range of the 12L of ftr… comon indian! Give more!
Tried ftr carbon and looked so good. And love the tubular rear wheel hold! Sexy « industrial » style
And the new tft display from the chief was a great addition as previous « cheaper » ftr were old tech… kinda wish we had a kawasaki z900rs style tho but hey can’t have all
@@thomasbouvier3203 120 mile range is perfectly manageable. More would be nice, but it's not a deal breaker. By the time I've travelled far enough to need filling up, I'm ready for a stop anyway.
well i often go for a 200km ride... and if you hit it a bit in the mountain, well you are below, in mountain, where gas station are not that often... Quite frustrating. its manageable but too low for my use.
Also, i go to work with and there is 160 to go and come back ... some on highway where i barely can do it... No go sadly. monster make it twice and i m happy with it :)
@@markellott5620
Didn't realize how high your subscriber base is getting, congrats you deserve it, the reviews are great!
Holy shit. Down to 78cm seat heigt. Time to give it a test ride. This bike was as tall as a GS lol.
I like it! Really good look. I would like to see a scrambler model derived from this bike, hopefully lighter. Thanks for the video Motobob, very interesting, and also the glasses.
I have a 2023 Sport and absolutely love it!!!
Dynotune, decat, Sawicki Speed slip on and mine stands up in the first 3 gears with just a bump of the throttle... Get out in 35 degree air and its like a turbocharger was added. Crazy rowdy bike!!!
How do you find tank range? I love this bike,but the tank range killed it for me.
I prefer the older look because it looked more like a flat tracker, but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable on such a tall bike ☹
This bike is stupid attractive. I fell in love when I saw it in Vegas. The engine, the shape, the sound. Yum.
Nice bike Rob, love that motor and had it in the Victory Octane, comes across like a bigger XSR700 or old school Monster.. Could you do a back to back test with Tim on the FTR v Sportster S or Monster SP? JB 🏴 👋 💡
This is a beautiful machine. Great job Indian
The 22 champ edition is my favorite by far. Tuned with toce full exaust sounds like a muscle car.
This is the first FTR I'd seriously consider buying. Looks great.
One of the best looking bikes on the market in my opinion
Fast, responsive, and a little bit silly sounds like a great commuter lol
debating between this or a harley low rider s. coming from an R1. this bike looks so good!
Loved the FTR when it first came out, but now it's just another naked road bike and there's far better, lighter road nakeds out there. By making it 'better' they've lost the reason I'd buy one....
What shoe you wearing there mate?
Did i miss the bit where he started ut and we heard the bike running, or was the battery flat?
Brilliant Review Bob 👏 Real Muscle Bike.
Loved the 👓 glasses they look great and make perfect motorcycle sense.
I'd perfer the FTR in a classic version.
Still think the Kawasaki z 900 is the bike King of Cool
The 2022 FTR R Carbon is still the best looking. My wife did 16k km already on it and she loves it. Indeed the stock version has some comfort problems but you can make it into an incredible comfortable machine with these mods:
1. Decat, K&N filter + Lloyds secret sauce tune (no more jerkiness, fiddling or cold start issues)
2. Sadleman seat + ProTaper handlebars + Gilles rearset (very comfortable position)
3. Suzuki GSXR link for the gear rod (no more false neutrals or problems between 5 to 6, also clicky gear changing makes it perfect)
There you go, now you have the best looking bike, the best character and now the best comfort!
I love it! Looks amazing in white and red ;)
Update...Going to have a Lloydz garage ecu flash done. They say it solves all issues. We shall see.
great but will it be available in INDIA
The grey with orange or Bkack with lime green is sooooo sexy. I’m ready to trade my 2022 Chief
What would you consider a great WINTER bike. Something that is reliable in the cold. Good grip, doesn’t mind being dirty, not affected by Road grit much. Won’t kill you in the wet?😊
I ride a Kawasaki Z900 SE in all kinds of weather. Low seat, smooth throttle, shifting, and handling. Also a rain mode. Super easy to ride fast or slow.
Definitly something easily controllable like a supermoto, Ktm 690 SMC, Husqvarna 701 or Ducati Hypermotard 698
Beautiful
Horror sticker on the tank can it be removed and will the impression of it remain ?
Thanks!
Am I the only one who noticed the display seems to be an Android interface given the icons? I mean, if it works, great.
You have an interesting opinion of "flat foot" because it looks like you are on your toes on both feet, that is not flat foot. Having seen this bike in person, it looks better than in video, very cool looking small maching.
I've kept my 1st generation FTR because it just looks so good. I agree, it is a bit compromised, but it defies categories and I just love that about it. The new one, whilst nice, is starting to lose the individuality.
My favourite was the original and the base model with the round clock. I'd rather have my old Buell Ulysses, though. I bet you have never ridden the XB12X.
I think they made a better job of the original bike looks wise.. Pete 😊
Nice one, Bob !
Great looking except for that fly screen that looks homemade 😢
I like it!
They should build something similar to the MT-01 with their bigger water cooled V twin used on the Challenger.
I find it attractive, specially on that paint scheme.
HOWEVER, the negatives are too strong for me.
Tiny fuel tank, too short suspension travel (at least on the rear) and too heavy.
The massive muffler can probably be fixed easily for a lot of $.
Why does it get an adjustable brake lever but not a clutch one ?
This or a new XSR900, 2024 MT09 Sp or a New Ducati Hypermotard 950SP? I need help!
Ducati is a crap
Beautiful bike, way too pricey for what you could get instead however
You can't call a bike a "sport" if you don't tweak the engine even a bit... Tiny improvements, paint job and a bellypan won't be enough for me, especially at 5kg extra on top of what is already a heavy bike... Lower seat is nice though 😊
Somehow the monster 1200 s comes to mind… personally would prefer the monster
I want it❤
fantastično izgleda
I love this.
44mpg?
I would go for the Ducati scrambler 1100 instead
The FTR, like most Indians, is a nice bike, but the U.K. Dealerships are too few and far between to make ownership a practical consideration.
The Rally looks great, but the sport versions are looking a bit cheesy and juvenile...with bright colors that wouldn't look out of place on a Yamaha...
Looks better (apart from the white).. but why the hell cant they add tank that then needs fueling before you need a piss..?!... case point.. why do you need maps when you have to keep stopping for gas and then can ask for directions. haha..
You've got a lot of mcs to cover my friend...
3:47 He says as he's not flat footing it....
Would love one BUT I couldn't live with that fuel tank capacity! 🙄
Everywhere. Everyone. What's with all the tiny tanks in the last 2 decades? "Oh.......these run on fuel? You actually wanted to go further than 50 miles?"
Problem is, if you want a powerful twin for fast riding you get a monster 1200. All day
Is Indian ever going to make an Adventure bike?
Beautiful bike, but one I would never buy. 780 mm is far too low for me, and those high pegs would drive me crazy.
the grey on the 2023 carbon was definitely the wrong choice. I wish the frame, tail section, shock spring, rims, etc. were red on the carbon. bike like that should pop as you say.
i drove one once, it was a very nice bike. I am not a fan of the sport's fairings and extra plastic bits though, this bike looks best when it embraces its flat track look. I mean, you sorta said it in the video...its chunky, other bikes are lighter...handle better and cost less...so why choose a FTR? cause its the only flat track/badsass looking bike out there...in that guise its beautiful and unapologetic...to add generic looking bits to it only detracts. The Sport version is the one to get for sure in terms of options and cost...just wish it had better color/graphic options...like a "sport heritage" where they take the black one, put the red wheels on, the carbon tank stickers/graphics and leave off the extra plastic bits...that would be money right there.
Yamaha
Only three people complain that their rear sets are too high and too far back. Harley Davidson people, my grandmother and this guy. I will say this about the FTR.. the feeling of being swindled with that bitchin prototype tracker masterpiece floating in 2018, & that piece of S#%T pile that became production in 2019 is in my rear view. This new bike is actually,, dare I say surprisingly good🤯Have you guys ever ridden one one w/17’s? Literally the best thing Polaris, err Indian Motor Co has come out with in the past 5 yrs. Still ugly mind you.., but a perfect balance of a street machine with the capability of doing track days with some basic suspension tuning, slicks, and upgraded brake pads. Can’t believe I’m saying this about an Indian😂
Whats wrong with the 2018 and 2019 models?
Nothing wrong with the any of the early models, I purchased the 2020 FTR with 18 & 19 inch wheels because I love the old flat track style with spokes, However, I have redesigned all of its bodywork and decal graphics as pictured in my profile above, with an Evel Knievel Stars and Stripes and lowered the seat height in the process, to my knowledge there are now nine different FTR models but they all look pretty much the same other than decals and colours, I must admit that the early models got quite hot between the legs during a good blast through the twistys in the summer months so I designed a ram-air intake on the left side of the engine that seems to have cured the problem, I guess what I am trying to say is the designer should have taken a break in 2021, just saying,..Otherwise I Love Absolutely Everything About It,.. OAP Wales UK.
Guys Guys, I think there’s a misunderstanding going on here. I was talking about when Indian teased us for one year with the FTR prototype bike prior to the production model that has essentially been the same for the last five years .
I understand the purpose of concept bikes is to stir the interest in potential buyers and gauge interest for manufacturers. I also understand that a vehicle in prototype form could differ greatly from concept due to cost, safety, emissions, noise, etc. That said, I feel cheated that almost nothing from the prototype bike they hyped came to fruition of what we can purchase today. Does this make sense now ? Copy/paste link below. I know you guys have seen this b4. Such a sick bike. Ahh what could have been😔
th-cam.com/video/UNrQDMZUxKk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QKbtg3EThOTimzgP
@@noonespecial1217 .. Fair play, taken out of context, understand and now agree with your argument, Oh there was one annoying thing that I didn't mention in my last comment: Indian Customer Service here in the UK is Shyte, I now carry out my own services and repairs for peace of mind.
coo coo
Gotta love guys who buy flat track style bikes to get a super sport 🤣 also 60-70 is second gear buddy 🤣 shoulda kept the 19/18 combo! I’d myself never buy a 17” ftr, not what it’s meant to be. You want a sport bike but a sport bike… or tune this gurl, de-cat/de-baffle, put a K&N in her and do 150 no problem with a real flat track bike not a poser “road focused mode” 🤣
Wow. "...there's always more pulling power even when you get to 60 or 70".
Might be impressive if you have been riding a Grom.
CCM Spitfire FT scratched this itch for me.
Question is would I buy this vs cheaper Z900RS MT09 BMWR9T? Nope
So much exhaust and all of it on one side of the bike 🤦♂️
My Phone does a better job at than touch screen on the motorcycle
Love it, but waaaaay too expensive
I've never sampled the FTR1200. I did take the Scout out on demo and absolutely hated it. If the FTR engine is anything like the Scout, no thanks. Way too much vibration, felt like it didn't want to rev, wasn't all that quick, suspension beat me up after only 20 minutes, didn't particularly like the sound for a Vtwin. FTR better be seriously different than the Scout.
Happy with "flatfoot" so don't complain that foot pegs are high. You can't have a cake and eat it. Need for flat-footing is a nonsense. I say it over and over and over.... (Yes but beginners...) Beginners shouldn't ride bikes like this. (Yes but confidence...) You should have confidence with balls of your feet. Thumb up, great job otherwise
Okay so I was like oww nice looking bike then he said v twin that ended any interest I had lool
Very mixed comments. I loved the look of the original. Still quite like the looks of that. Bikini fairing thing is ugly. Agree with others commenting from Australia. Price is out there. But we pay through the nose for everything. Unlikely to ever ride one. Certainly can't afford one.
Yamaha XSR900 much better
I have one and can't stand the throttle...Not smooth no matter what you try. I can't wait to get rid of it. Also, big gas hog.
Life's too short to be riding or driving motorized vehicles that do not rock your soul.
Best of luck on your next toy.
@@GIGABACHII get what he means, choppy throttle is not fun or exhilarating at all. It’s just annoying.
Life is too short to put up with an annoyance
That’s a deal breaker for me.
Might need a proper dyno tune and ECU flash to smooth out the throttle if possible. That's how a lot of bikes are these days with the throttle by wire.
I don't see a flat foot sir
I can’t believe they’re still selling this bike?! Ducati Monster is lighter and better quality
Not really the same. Ducati monster is a pretty sporty bike where you sit hunched over.
I had the previous generation monster a while ago. And the newer ducati monsters look like shit now, would definitely not buy them. Indian looks far better
Ducati Scrambler Desert Sled is better
Totally different bikes, why even compare 😂
Better how? Two very different bikes.
The original FTR itself was a disappointing parody of the track bike and newer versions just get worse.
it seems like it wants to be a supermoto but is too heavy and fat
Australian rip off
Ugly graphics put me off
Looks like crap, old styling is sooo much better.
The screen placement over the headlight is wrong, looks like someone slapped a cheap Ali Express screen on it.
Man That swing arm looks cheap