The reason I spun the extractor for so long is mostly about the type of honey in the frames and the temperature in the room. This is thick, dark goldenrod honey. It clings! Also, the room I was in was about 65ºF (16C), not a hot summer day. Honey does not flow when it's chilly. I assure you, the extractor was used as designed. The manufacturer showed me how to use it and was the one who told me he runs his for an hour or more. If you are extracting light honey on a hot day, 5 minutes will probably be fine for you. We are in New England and the heat isn't on in the house yet!
So at what point would you say, dang, I wish I got the 20 frame maxant extractor? Trying to decide. You can't do 15 spin cycles if you have to supers you need to extract That'll take forever.
I don't see myself being that big. After three years of trying, I extracted 18 frames. If I get 18 or 20 frames a year, I'm happy. I'm not trying to be a honey producer. If something crazy happens and my bees start making too much honey, needing a larger extractor is not a horrible problem to have. This suits my needs and will be fine for anyone with up to about 15 or so hives.
Beautiful honey. I hope next year with the yard expansion you are able to get even more if the spring honey. It's really cool have the two distinctly different seasonal flavors. If you are able to make any breads, Mead or other items with the honey I hope you can video. I can almost smell and taste. Our golden rod is maxed out right now. Can't wait to find a fresh harvest in the next few weeks. Good luck with prepping for the winter. Thx for Tak ng the time to make the vids.
Ha! That honey extractor doesn't even compare to the Binford 2500 honey extractor! V-4 460hp turbo with a bulletproof Allison transmission 6 speed ...0 to 60 mph in 3.75 secs. HO HO HO HO
Hey Vino....you didn't show it in your video, but a super easy way to clean your extractor up after you are done....put it out in your bee yard. Your bees will clean up all the last little bits and clean it for you better than you could!
hyfy1970 no don’t do this!!! Especially with so many hives! They will swarm and attack each other, and promote robbing from other hives! It’s a good way to lose a good chunk of your bees
please tell me then why families i have known who have kept bees for generations do this every year and have never had an issue of robbing that you speak of?
hyfy1970 because they are lucky and have hardy bees. Depending on your area, the risk of another bee hive swooping down to steal honey and kill bees can go up significantly. Putting out a tray of honey invites those wild hives to approach, and can promote swarming, which can also kill a good chunk of your bees. Many beekeeping manuals go over this topic frequently, and I recommend checking some out if you’re curious :)
I do the same. I have a commercial producer near by and their bees show up on mass to clean up or carry away my open feed but they don't try my hives or my nucs. Only thing that surprises me is the small amount of harvest from all these hives in the videos. I've been watching bee videos for about two years and feeding bees pollen and sugar water in my back yard. Lack of bees this spring made me step up. I bought two chalk brood infested weak hives at the end of June because of our month late spring. I fought with them all summer and the take was 260lb plus I took 2 late season 6 frame nuc splits off of them. Supers came off at the beginning of August so I let them keep and back fill the hive with all the fall flow. I am using single box hive management methods I find it easier to manage. They are pretty much ready for winter now. With my hives at peak performance they should have done 200 to 250lbs each according to commercial producers I know. 5 gallons of honey off of this many hives has me scratching my head cause I got almost 4 times that from two hives. I realize it's not about the honey. Matter of fact I didn't care about honey at all. I wanted to do propagation and let the swarms go. my wife wanted honey so I had to scale back my plans to get the hives up to snuff to make her some. I got to make two storming late season 6 frame nucs so next year if all goes well I get to play.
Nice haul. I had two distinct colors as well. The lighter honey was sweeter and the dark more bold. I still have a bit more to extract of rosemary honey.
I know this old but I would like to know how do you get the different flavors of honey? You said rosemary honey, I've never heard of flavored honey, sounds yummy.
One of the beekeepers where I used to live would rent his bees out on certain flower or fruit crops, so that's what the honey came from, and it was extracted, and my favorite was thistle honey, so light and never tasted any other honey like it! I'm so glad you got a good honey harvest this year!
Congratulations. Enjoy your honey. I also use the Maxant 3100 and love it. I don't spin nearly as long as you- only 10-15 minutes at most. I also put the extractor and cappings about 100 yards away from the hives for the bees to clean up. They do a great job. Never started robbing. Congrats again on a great beekeeping year and thank you for your time and effort on the videos.
That's so cool! For those of us who are unlucky enough to have to purchase our raw honey in a store, we had no clue honey comes in different colors/shades at different times of the year. Same with pollen. Didn't know it came in such a variety of colors either! Thanks for the awesome videos!!
So jelly of that motorized extractor. I've got a hand crank and if it isn't perfectly balanced I have to lay my whole body over the top of it to keep it from jumping around my shed. It's quite a sight!
That honey looks great! And the extractor looks like a quality item, as well. I will definitely have to upgrade to a motorized unit once i add more hives to the operation. Congratulations on your first "real" harvest!
Good job love the extractor. For next year order an uncappings roller. They are really cheap and make the prep for the extractor goes much faster. You can roll them directly over the extractor, no more need for a cappings tank. Yes you could buy an electric hot knife but they are expensive and honestly still takes almost as much time as your cold knife.
Hey vino! Beginner bee keeper here and I am really enjoying your vids. It would be nice if you were to do a video on what frames you use, what brand of supers, just general information that will really help out beginners, and maybe even pros. Thanks 👍
For woodenware, I usually shop at betterbee.com or brushymountainbeefarm.com. I have found the quality of the wooden boxes and frames to be best at those places. I go with the best deals I can find. I really like Brushy Mountain frames, but I try to wait for sales. Stock up when you see good deals.
Congratulations!! That is very exciting, so happy for you! The other day we took my daughter to a class on bees at a local nature center. It was a little disappointing because having watched all of your videos (and a couple of other bee keepers' videos) we knew more about the bees than the guy giving the presentation.
+Vino Farm, +ChocolateRx, you've gotta do the "school field day" tours of your vineyard; it's really cool to watch as students 'stare in amazement'. We used to do field tours in certain areas of Boeing's avionics department(s). A great experience for all!
Not only a color difference between the 2 but it appears that one was thicker than the other. Tells you a lot about how different plant matter and times of year can change honey.
My grandparents lived in Tampa, Florida. (I'm 65y/o) When our family would go there on vacation, we always had to go to Webb City, a big store. My grandpa would say,"Let's go Webbin'". We ALWAYS had to get orange blossom honey. It came packaged in a gallon paint can which made it awesome for us 4 kids! This is the only nasty thing I have ever done in my life, literally. I was about 10. I took a spoon of Fels Naptha soap (a vegetable soap that looks like thickened honey from the bottom of the gallon can) and told my younger sister that it WAS from the bottom of the can! Imagine her face when she was expecting sweetness and taste soapy! She wasn' too mad. JANET! ! ! ! !
Nice job Jim, congratulations on your first official honey harvest and a great year in beekeeping. I've got to get things squared away and take some of my honey off as well. My dad passed away last weekend at 78 years old and I just haven't had the time or the wherewithal to get into it lately. It's been a rough past few weeks.
Brent Aww, Man. Sorry to hear that. I hope you have help and support. Do you have some local beekeepers you could call on to at least start condensing hives and taking stock of what’s going on for you? I know you have a lot more hives. The thought of taking on a huge task like that must be tough with what you’re going through. On the other hand, maybe digging in to a task like that might be what you need. Sorry I can’t help out.
@@vinofarm Thanks, no there aren't any other beeks around that I know of. I'll get it sorted out eventually or I won't. All my hives seem to be in pretty good shape at this point, I just haven't gotten any fall honey harvested yet. Whatever I don't get will be fine left on the bees, they'll just have extra stores. I still have 500+ acres of beans to harvest and 500+ acres of wheat and cover crop to go yet this fall but I have a couple of weeks yet before that starts so maybe I'll get the honey taken off and the bees set for winter yet. We have a little more time over here in MO than you all do.
I may not be a bee keeper but i love watching this whole process. Something tells me if i went with a hand crank extractor I'd figure a way to make it peddle powered. lol
That would not be too hard if you got a treadle peddle and a flywheel to hold the energy you put into it. (I understand the physics of it but not so much the building. But with those words you could get the help you need)
Thanks for the video. I have been looking into beekeeping. That is a lot of honey, I was wondering how long can you store honey for? I know the store bought stuff crystallizes pretty quick once opened. Thanks!
Honey don’t go bad for years. Just becuse it crystallizes does not mean it has gone bad. You just heat it in a water bath at 35 celcius and it goes liquid again
Are the caps all wax that you could make candles with? what is the bees wax that i hear people say they make candles and soap with? Love the vids makes we want to get a hive.
Could you use an empty frame of the same size to fill the empty space to try to keep it more balanced? It would still be lighter because there’s no honey on it so I’m not sure.
Very interesting , well done , boss I got questions, if I want learn how to make honey from the beginning mean from the hive where shall go to learn from scratch. Thank you Ll
Nice. That spring honey may be more than just dandelion and apple. I had a major flow of Linden Trees in June. I am sure you have Linden trees where you are as well. The Linden (aka Basswood) has a very distinct aroma and the honey is light with the slightest hint of green.
There are light honey years and dark honey years here. Due to that big basswood bloom our spring crop looks like what we normally get in the fall. Tastes great...less filling. lol
If you'd only set frames lateral they would probably empty faster. They are on the outside and therefor have a higher speed and thus more force to pull out honey. The radial frames do not have a lot of speed on the inside near the axis of the extractor. Because of that, that part will take a long while to drip out. But maybe you should try it and prove me wrong :)
This is a good point. However, once you turn the extractor on, you can walk away and watch youtube videos. It doesn't matter if it takes 10 minutes or 50 minutes. I would have a different opinion if this was a hand-crank extractor of course.
Get yourself a cheap flexible silicone scraper spatula. Works wonders for getting that last coating of honey out of any container! My honey was the opposite. Very sweet in Spring, but very tangy in late summer.
Vino Farm I use one with a handle for the extra reach into buckets and the extractor. To me, there’s nothing worse than reaching into a bucket and getting an armful of honey when you accidentally brush the side of the container!!! 😫😫😫
I saw a video where the beekeeper instead of using a knife to cut the cupping before the extraction he uses hot air from a hair dryer to melt the honey comb cups and hence he avoided the knife altogether. Are you aware of that?
You should get a flow hive. They are expensive but it means you can extract honey straight from the hive without disturbing the bees. You don’t need to remove the frames and use the spinning extractor as you can turn a tap which drains honey straight from the hive.
Congratulations on your new extractor! This is the most honey I have seen you harvest so far. A couple more years and you should have about a one thousand hive commercial operation right? Seriously though, you have really grown by leaps and bounds since I have been following you. Do you have any plans on creating a warm room? Or perhaps using some other method of bringing the temp. up a bit more? Sixty-five isn't all that warm, but I'm no expert. Are you considering blending your honey? I took half of a frame from my hive so far. Being my first year, I'll leave the remaining honey for winter. It will probably be too much, but better than not enough. I am going to consider a press because it is a Kenyan Top Bar and the whole comb has to be taken. I have you to thank for my bees doing very well so far. I've learned a great deal from you. My only regret is I should have gone with the Langstroth design, but I only have one hive and a swarm box. I think it is great that the extractor manufacturer is so close to you. Thanks again Mr. Vino. Regards.
How cool is that?? Good call separating types, too! Now you can continue to investigate/research processing honey for sale...if that is, indeed, what you ultimately want to do. From the look of that yield, though, all you'd need to do is adhere to 'food safe' rules and look for a local farmers' market to set up at! ...or just keep it and enjoy! Either way, very happy for you! Dramatically expanded apiary, and a great looking honey harvest! Win - Win! :-)
I'm going to see how we come out of winter and focus next season on planting nectar rich field crops and production rather than expansion. This year was all about expansion. Now, I know how to expand but I'm not sure my area can handle MORE hives. I want to focus on maybe 6-10 hives (or however many survive) and see what they can do if I provide them with good forage. If they do well, I'll expand a bit more each year. I have a feeling 15 hives will be too many for my property/neighborhood.)
Sounds like a solid plan, Jim, and I understand your concern. I wonder what would happen, though, if in the Spring you purchased a number of those tubes of mixed wildflower seeds and liberally spread them around parts of the property not designated for other uses?? I was persuaded, once, to plant those things, and damned if they didn't all sprout and grow like...weeds!! LOL The idea being, of course, that you now have tons of new pollen sources, and a pretty cool assortment of wildflowers as a bonus! Just a wild thought that occurred to me. Congrats, again, on a great looking harvest! :-)
You should put in the frames in such a way that the top bar of the frames passes last (so top bar on the right, I hope you know what I mean), since the cells are slightly pointing upwards. You'll have the honey extracted way faster and won't need to spin it for 50 minutes 😂
I put the very first frames in backwards. I realized that after the first 'flip' and corrected myself after that. I think everyone's honey is different. It takes a lot longer to extract goldenrod honey in a 60ºF living room. It would be a lot faster on a hot summer day.
@@vinofarm Defenitly true! You also could consider warming up the frames a bit in sun or with your lamp. Keep up the good work and enjoy your honey! Greetings from the other side of the world, The Netherlands!
I was kind of baffled why you put a frame on the outside while you had two on the radials? Didn't that just throw honey on the outside frame? Curious. Yeah 65 degrees seems to cold! I just got a vivo 8/4 frame extractor
You may need to look at your local laws for purchasing raw animal products. In some places buying honey that wasn't from a government inspected apirary is illegal. Sounds stupid but it keeps people safe from scam artists who might lace their honey with other products. Just look up the laws about 'purchase of animal products' in your state and make sure that you won't get nailed. (Because some mail systems will steal the product and not even return it)
I see in a comment you are going to focus on nectar production next year. do you have a idea on what you are going to plant. I put out 50# of sweet yellow clover and 50# of crimson clover seed last week.i hope it gets established. I still need something for the hot summer months. I know I can plant buckwheat if we get the rain.
Buckwheat grows like a weed on our property. Relatively cheap and easy to spread. However, I did not see results in the hives. They had a solid 1/2 acre right next to the bee yard all through July when there was almost no other forage and the hives still remained empty through the dearth. I was hoping Buckwheat would be the answer for our dearth. I spread almost an acre of clover (red and white) right near the bee yard and it was almost totally taken over by grass. It just didn't take hold. I'm pretty frustrated with field crops. I have collected a lot of seeds from dandelion, milkweed and two types of goldenrod that grow well for us and I'm going to try to distribute it to some new corners of the property in hopes that it spreads naturally. I am also looking for a rock star nectar plant for the month of July. If I can figure that out, it would change our whole beekeeping experience. Right now, they build up a bit in the spring, but all stores are depleted by mid July. Then they are fed for July and early August. The flow comes in hard the last week of August and is over by the second week of September.
Thank you for another great video. Two questions; where did you purchase the 600 micron filter and how did you store the spring frames until you were ready to extract. TY.
darnbunny1 I have the filters linked in my amazon links: www.amazon.com/shop/vinofarm As far as storing, honey doesn’t go bad as long as pests don’t get into it. I just had the frames hanging in an empty hive box in my living room all summer. Nothing special. Just keep mice, ants and moths away.
The spring honey frames were removed and stored for the season. I left some spring honey frames on some of the hives and they consumed it during their summer dearth.
Uhm i just wanna say if you extract The honey this way you Mix them so... (i am not an expert or something i just wanted to point that out.) Would it make sense to extract them seperatly? So each honey keeps it's flavor?
You have to turn those mediums around too. If you are gonna run it full. Will go way faster you just run 4 at a time. Those extracters exaggerate there capacity.
I run all deep frames and can extract three in 3 minutes(not including frame loading time and unloading time). Cells are empty and frame is nearly dry. Remember cells are 15 degrees upwards, so better to have top bar on leading edge in rotation. I uncap, spin one side slowly(just flinging out honey) for 30 seconds, stop and flip the frames. Start slowly so just slinging out honey, them ramp up the speed. Maybe takes ?1.5 minutes. Stop and flip frames and run at full speed to completely empty first side. The 3100P is a great extractor for ?up to 1000 lbs of honey in a season.
Hey buddy!! A tip for you: do not mix the honey from the operculum, keep it separate. Because it is the last honey made by bees, it has better properties and is softer .....
Wonderful video! Love watching you tend your hives and seeing your finished product, your spring honey was just gorgeous. What do you do with your beeswax?
i'm not a big fan of honey mostly because it's too sweet for me but i mostly went and bought honey around november so it was most likely fall honey.. i might go to him at the end of spring and ask for spring honey to see if that one is my taste
I try to get honeycomb for this reason - I find it's not so sickly sweet. But it's very very difficult to get/find. (I think it's more a case of finding the local beeks to ask, because the shops do/will not sell it. Not even the health food shops.)
@@kme oh yeah i already buy from a local beekeeper that lives a few minutes away from me! store bought honey tends to generally be a lot sweeter so i don't buy it anyway
Before you sell one drop check the prices for your area online. Its easy. Right now it's $5.47/pound wholesale for honey harvested in September in central illinois. Our fall crop is sold and it's still on hives. $60/gallon.
Since we're measuring err things we made well over 100 gallons with about 4 times the colonies this season. 30 production 10 nucs. Youll get there once you've got the drawn supers. Mann Lake bottling tank on sale right now for $995. Great deal.
The reason I spun the extractor for so long is mostly about the type of honey in the frames and the temperature in the room. This is thick, dark goldenrod honey. It clings! Also, the room I was in was about 65ºF (16C), not a hot summer day. Honey does not flow when it's chilly. I assure you, the extractor was used as designed. The manufacturer showed me how to use it and was the one who told me he runs his for an hour or more. If you are extracting light honey on a hot day, 5 minutes will probably be fine for you. We are in New England and the heat isn't on in the house yet!
So at what point would you say, dang, I wish I got the 20 frame maxant extractor? Trying to decide. You can't do 15 spin cycles if you have to supers you need to extract That'll take forever.
I don't see myself being that big. After three years of trying, I extracted 18 frames. If I get 18 or 20 frames a year, I'm happy. I'm not trying to be a honey producer. If something crazy happens and my bees start making too much honey, needing a larger extractor is not a horrible problem to have. This suits my needs and will be fine for anyone with up to about 15 or so hives.
Oh, I hope the Russians were feeling calm?
After you pull frames and get ready to extract put a floor heater in the room. Get that room hot and it will flow way faster.
@Terry Melvin Can confirm. Have had it and its delicious!
I’m not sure, after licking the screen I didn’t get any difference in taste between the two...
Did the snozberry taste like snozberry?
Tastes like grease and LEDs
@@BenjaminCronce where is that from forget sounds so familiar
Lol you are funny
Taste like chicken !
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What we all work for and love. Thanks for taking care of our bees. Great videos. Very well done. Thanks for the work you do to bring them to us.
Beautiful honey. I hope next year with the yard expansion you are able to get even more if the spring honey. It's really cool have the two distinctly different seasonal flavors.
If you are able to make any breads, Mead or other items with the honey I hope you can video. I can almost smell and taste.
Our golden rod is maxed out right now. Can't wait to find a fresh harvest in the next few weeks.
Good luck with prepping for the winter. Thx for Tak ng the time to make the vids.
A big congratulations JIM. Keep on observing your hive and bees. You have a good future with bees. Thanks for all your hard work.
You should make Mead now that you have all that honey. I bet if you did a batch of each honey you'd get some interesting results
This is on the list of things I want to do but have no time for.
Farming and having a family can't allow much pleasure time. Still, you never know when you'll have the time
aw yeah, I love mead!
It takes 18 months and you need alot of honey 20kg and some champagne yeast or similar put it in the cupboard and forget about it for a few months
Dilly Dilly!
Ha! That honey extractor doesn't even compare to the Binford 2500 honey extractor! V-4 460hp turbo with a bulletproof Allison transmission 6 speed ...0 to 60 mph in 3.75 secs. HO HO HO HO
This has made my Friday. Bravo Jim! Enjoy the fruits of labor! 👏🇦🇺
Congrats! So exciting for you after all your hard work.
I don't know how I ended up watching videos about bee keeping, but I keep coming back. haha
Hey Vino....you didn't show it in your video, but a super easy way to clean your extractor up after you are done....put it out in your bee yard. Your bees will clean up all the last little bits and clean it for you better than you could!
hyfy1970 no don’t do this!!! Especially with so many hives! They will swarm and attack each other, and promote robbing from other hives! It’s a good way to lose a good chunk of your bees
please tell me then why families i have known who have kept bees for generations do this every year and have never had an issue of robbing that you speak of?
hyfy1970 because they are lucky and have hardy bees. Depending on your area, the risk of another bee hive swooping down to steal honey and kill bees can go up significantly. Putting out a tray of honey invites those wild hives to approach, and can promote swarming, which can also kill a good chunk of your bees. Many beekeeping manuals go over this topic frequently, and I recommend checking some out if you’re curious :)
I do the same. I have a commercial producer near by and their bees show up on mass to clean up or carry away my open feed but they don't try my hives or my nucs. Only thing that surprises me is the small amount of harvest from all these hives in the videos. I've been watching bee videos for about two years and feeding bees pollen and sugar water in my back yard. Lack of bees this spring made me step up. I bought two chalk brood infested weak hives at the end of June because of our month late spring. I fought with them all summer and the take was 260lb plus I took 2 late season 6 frame nuc splits off of them. Supers came off at the beginning of August so I let them keep and back fill the hive with all the fall flow. I am using single box hive management methods I find it easier to manage. They are pretty much ready for winter now. With my hives at peak performance they should have done 200 to 250lbs each according to commercial producers I know. 5 gallons of honey off of this many hives has me scratching my head cause I got almost 4 times that from two hives. I realize it's not about the honey. Matter of fact I didn't care about honey at all. I wanted to do propagation and let the swarms go. my wife wanted honey so I had to scale back my plans to get the hives up to snuff to make her some. I got to make two storming late season 6 frame nucs so next year if all goes well I get to play.
Nice haul. I had two distinct colors as well. The lighter honey was sweeter and the dark more bold. I still have a bit more to extract of rosemary honey.
I know this old but I would like to know how do you get the different flavors of honey? You said rosemary honey, I've never heard of flavored honey, sounds yummy.
That was exciting! We will be doing our first extraction at the beginning of November. We are first year beekeepers with two hives!
So happy that you were able to harvest even after all the drama that happened
One of the beekeepers where I used to live would rent his bees out on certain flower or fruit crops, so that's what the honey came from, and it was extracted, and my favorite was thistle honey, so light and never tasted any other honey like it! I'm so glad you got a good honey harvest this year!
Congrats on your harvest! Really enjoyed you showing the difference between the two and explaining the taste. YUM Apple and dandelion!
Congratulations. Enjoy your honey. I also use the Maxant 3100 and love it. I don't spin nearly as long as you- only 10-15 minutes at most. I also put the extractor and cappings about 100 yards away from the hives for the bees to clean up. They do a great job. Never started robbing. Congrats again on a great beekeeping year and thank you for your time and effort on the videos.
That's so cool! For those of us who are unlucky enough to have to purchase our raw honey in a store, we had no clue honey comes in different colors/shades at different times of the year. Same with pollen. Didn't know it came in such a variety of colors either! Thanks for the awesome videos!!
Georgous honey. I know what everybody is getting for Christmas 😁. Thank you for sharing.
Exactly...
So jelly of that motorized extractor. I've got a hand crank and if it isn't perfectly balanced I have to lay my whole body over the top of it to keep it from jumping around my shed. It's quite a sight!
this man is brave. He's taking the hives apart with no gloves!!! 0:56
Hay I love your videos I just got in beekeeping a year ago. You a big help keep the good work up.
5 gallon buckets full of honey = happiness. Well done, thanks for the video. :)
Around 60 pounds of honey, good job and great job bees!
i watch one of these kinds of videos and I'm hooked with at least 2 popping up in my recommended and I'm happy i did
I live down the road from Maxant. Good folks.
Congratulations on your harvest! Everything looks incredible!
So, what about the cappings? Are you going to try your hand at rendering the bees wax?
Clever use of the queen excluder! I like your uncapping set-up.
I'm happy for you and it was really nice to see this side of beekeeping too. Now I want some honey!
Enjoy your honey. I think you done very well this year, looking forward to next seasons videos. from Uk
That honey looks great! And the extractor looks like a quality item, as well. I will definitely have to upgrade
to a motorized unit once i add more hives to the operation. Congratulations on your first "real" harvest!
This extractor will last a lifetime. It's awesome. It felt good to finally "harvest" something.
5 Gallons of honey and a massively expanded apiary. Very good year for you, well done.
Good job love the extractor. For next year order an uncappings roller. They are really cheap and make the prep for the extractor goes much faster. You can roll them directly over the extractor, no more need for a cappings tank. Yes you could buy an electric hot knife but they are expensive and honestly still takes almost as much time as your cold knife.
Been watching this channel since you started, congrats on your first extraction! 🌻 🐝 🍁
Oh the deliciousness!!! During the winter, we may require that you do a honey and breadmaking combo recipe!!!😍
Hey vino! Beginner bee keeper here and I am really enjoying your vids.
It would be nice if you were to do a video on what frames you use, what brand of supers, just general information that will really help out beginners, and maybe even pros. Thanks 👍
For woodenware, I usually shop at betterbee.com or brushymountainbeefarm.com. I have found the quality of the wooden boxes and frames to be best at those places. I go with the best deals I can find. I really like Brushy Mountain frames, but I try to wait for sales. Stock up when you see good deals.
Congrats on the extractor, and the honey harvest JIm!
Congratulations!! That is very exciting, so happy for you! The other day we took my daughter to a class on bees at a local nature center. It was a little disappointing because having watched all of your videos (and a couple of other bee keepers' videos) we knew more about the bees than the guy giving the presentation.
Ha ha ha... Awesome.
+Vino Farm, +ChocolateRx, you've gotta do the "school field day" tours of your vineyard; it's really cool to watch as students 'stare in amazement'. We used to do field tours in certain areas of Boeing's avionics department(s). A great experience for all!
This happened to us too, my kids and I knew more than the person who owned a beehive!
I also purchased and love this particular extractor. Great video on it. Thanks.
Watching this video made me drool on my phone by accident.
Not only a color difference between the 2 but it appears that one was thicker than the other. Tells you a lot about how different plant matter and times of year can change honey.
now that's how I like a honey harvesting video, simple and fun! keep up with the good work, my friend. Saudações do Brasil :)
My grandparents lived in Tampa, Florida. (I'm 65y/o) When our family would go there on vacation, we always had to go to Webb City, a big store. My grandpa would say,"Let's go Webbin'". We ALWAYS had to get orange blossom honey. It came packaged in a gallon paint can which made it awesome for us 4 kids! This is the only nasty thing I have ever done in my life, literally. I was about 10. I took a spoon of Fels Naptha soap (a vegetable soap that looks like thickened honey from the bottom of the gallon can) and told my younger sister that it WAS from the bottom of the can! Imagine her face when she was expecting sweetness and taste soapy! She wasn' too mad. JANET! ! ! ! !
Nice job Jim, congratulations on your first official honey harvest and a great year in beekeeping. I've got to get things squared away and take some of my honey off as well. My dad passed away last weekend at 78 years old and I just haven't had the time or the
wherewithal to get into it lately. It's been a rough past few weeks.
Brent Aww, Man. Sorry to hear that. I hope you have help and support. Do you have some local beekeepers you could call on to at least start condensing hives and taking stock of what’s going on for you? I know you have a lot more hives. The thought of taking on a huge task like that must be tough with what you’re going through. On the other hand, maybe digging in to a task like that might be what you need. Sorry I can’t help out.
@@vinofarm Thanks, no there aren't any other beeks around that I know of. I'll get it sorted out eventually or I won't. All my hives seem to be in pretty good shape at this point, I just haven't gotten any fall honey harvested yet. Whatever I don't get will be fine left on the bees, they'll just have extra stores. I still have 500+ acres of beans to harvest and 500+ acres of wheat and cover crop to go yet this fall but I have a couple of weeks yet before that starts so maybe I'll get the honey taken off and the bees set for winter yet. We have a little more time over here in MO than you all do.
Jim Thanks for all your hard work
Gym socks? lol!
Maybe what people are smelling is the influence of bee bread.
I may not be a bee keeper but i love watching this whole process. Something tells me if i went with a hand crank extractor I'd figure a way to make it peddle powered. lol
That would not be too hard if you got a treadle peddle and a flywheel to hold the energy you put into it. (I understand the physics of it but not so much the building. But with those words you could get the help you need)
Congratulations!!! Third year is the charm :))
Thanks for the video. I have been looking into beekeeping. That is a lot of honey, I was wondering how long can you store honey for? I know the store bought stuff crystallizes pretty quick once opened. Thanks!
Honey don’t go bad for years. Just becuse it crystallizes does not mean it has gone bad. You just heat it in a water bath at 35 celcius and it goes liquid again
Are the caps all wax that you could make candles with? what is the bees wax that i hear people say they make candles and soap with? Love the vids makes we want to get a hive.
the warming light underneath is a great idea
Could you use an empty frame of the same size to fill the empty space to try to keep it more balanced? It would still be lighter because there’s no honey on it so I’m not sure.
Like your DIY uncapping tank, brilliant!
What is the size or item number of the 2 you used?
Before you washed everything did you stick the dirty equipment outside to let the bees clean it off?
Congratulations on your first honey pool looks good.
Very interesting , well done , boss I got questions, if I want learn how to make honey from the beginning mean from the hive where shall go to learn from scratch. Thank you
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Nice. That spring honey may be more than just dandelion and apple. I had a major flow of Linden Trees in June. I am sure you have Linden trees where you are as well. The Linden (aka Basswood) has a very distinct aroma and the honey is light with the slightest hint of green.
There are light honey years and dark honey years here. Due to that big basswood bloom our spring crop looks like what we normally get in the fall. Tastes great...less filling. lol
How about putting the frames in your solar warmer, a.k.a your vehicle, to warm up the frames a bit to extract?
If you'd only set frames lateral they would probably empty faster. They are on the outside and therefor have a higher speed and thus more force to pull out honey. The radial frames do not have a lot of speed on the inside near the axis of the extractor. Because of that, that part will take a long while to drip out. But maybe you should try it and prove me wrong :)
This is a good point. However, once you turn the extractor on, you can walk away and watch youtube videos. It doesn't matter if it takes 10 minutes or 50 minutes. I would have a different opinion if this was a hand-crank extractor of course.
great to see that you got some honey. only up from here.
Get yourself a cheap flexible silicone scraper spatula. Works wonders for getting that last coating of honey out of any container!
My honey was the opposite. Very sweet in Spring, but very tangy in late summer.
A silicone scraper like this one? 8:30
Vino Farm I use one with a handle for the extra reach into buckets and the extractor. To me, there’s nothing worse than reaching into a bucket and getting an armful of honey when you accidentally brush the side of the container!!! 😫😫😫
When do you start the Mead series? I mean you have to do something with all that hunny.
Eat it on toast! Nomnomnom!
If it ever gets to that point, I would like to let you know i would 1000000% buy Vinofarm brand honey.
I saw a video where the beekeeper instead of using a knife to cut the cupping before the extraction he uses hot air from a hair dryer to melt the honey comb cups and hence he avoided the knife altogether. Are you aware of that?
You should get a flow hive. They are expensive but it means you can extract honey straight from the hive without disturbing the bees. You don’t need to remove the frames and use the spinning extractor as you can turn a tap which drains honey straight from the hive.
BertieBlueBear Welcome. You must be new here. Poke around some of my older videos to see how the flow hive worked out for me.
Question: What did you do with the cappings afterwards? Did you put the tub back in the yard for the bees to clean out the leftover honey?
They're still sitting in the tub. I'll squeeze them out and filter the wax eventually. They are pretty dry.
@@vinofarm We use cheesecloth and a grape press on the cappings. Works great.
we used a 5 qt ice cream bucket, and heated it just enough to melt the wax. the honey separates out and you can sell the wax if there is a market
Congratulations on your new extractor! This is the most honey I have seen you harvest so far. A couple more years and you should have about a one thousand hive commercial operation right? Seriously though, you have really grown by leaps and bounds since I have been following you. Do you have any plans on creating a warm room? Or perhaps using some other method of bringing the temp. up a bit more?
Sixty-five isn't all that warm, but I'm no expert. Are you considering blending your honey? I took half of a frame from my hive so far. Being my first year, I'll leave the remaining honey for winter. It will probably be too much, but better than not enough. I am going to consider a press because it is a Kenyan Top Bar and the whole comb has to be taken. I have you to thank for my bees doing very well so far. I've learned a great deal from you. My only regret is I should have gone with the Langstroth design, but I only have one hive and a swarm box. I think it is great that the extractor manufacturer is so close to you. Thanks again Mr. Vino. Regards.
How cool is that?? Good call separating types, too! Now you can continue to investigate/research processing honey for sale...if that is, indeed, what you ultimately want to do. From the look of that yield, though, all you'd need to do is adhere to 'food safe' rules and look for a local farmers' market to set up at! ...or just keep it and enjoy! Either way, very happy for you! Dramatically expanded apiary, and a great looking honey harvest! Win - Win! :-)
I'm going to see how we come out of winter and focus next season on planting nectar rich field crops and production rather than expansion. This year was all about expansion. Now, I know how to expand but I'm not sure my area can handle MORE hives. I want to focus on maybe 6-10 hives (or however many survive) and see what they can do if I provide them with good forage. If they do well, I'll expand a bit more each year. I have a feeling 15 hives will be too many for my property/neighborhood.)
Sounds like a solid plan, Jim, and I understand your concern. I wonder what would happen, though, if in the Spring you purchased a number of those tubes of mixed wildflower seeds and liberally spread them around parts of the property not designated for other uses?? I was persuaded, once, to plant those things, and damned if they didn't all sprout and grow like...weeds!! LOL The idea being, of course, that you now have tons of new pollen sources, and a pretty cool assortment of wildflowers as a bonus! Just a wild thought that occurred to me. Congrats, again, on a great looking harvest! :-)
Will the honey be available for sale?
You should put in the frames in such a way that the top bar of the frames passes last (so top bar on the right, I hope you know what I mean), since the cells are slightly pointing upwards. You'll have the honey extracted way faster and won't need to spin it for 50 minutes 😂
I put the very first frames in backwards. I realized that after the first 'flip' and corrected myself after that. I think everyone's honey is different. It takes a lot longer to extract goldenrod honey in a 60ºF living room. It would be a lot faster on a hot summer day.
@@vinofarm Defenitly true! You also could consider warming up the frames a bit in sun or with your lamp.
Keep up the good work and enjoy your honey!
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That is so awesome! You might want to look up your local laws before trying to sell any of your honey, but you probably already know that.
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I was kind of baffled why you put a frame on the outside while you had two on the radials? Didn't that just throw honey on the outside frame? Curious. Yeah 65 degrees seems to cold! I just got a vivo 8/4 frame extractor
They don’t overlap. The honey extracts fine.
Are you going to be selling the honey? And if you are will you ship to a different state?
You may need to look at your local laws for purchasing raw animal products. In some places buying honey that wasn't from a government inspected apirary is illegal. Sounds stupid but it keeps people safe from scam artists who might lace their honey with other products. Just look up the laws about 'purchase of animal products' in your state and make sure that you won't get nailed. (Because some mail systems will steal the product and not even return it)
you may want to invest in a a few bee escapes for next year... makes pulling off the honey frames much less stressful on you and the bees.
Yes, I was not prepared for the frame removal this year.
So cool! Can you tell me where you purchased your uncapping bin? They are so expensive!
Thanks for the video! Yeah.. the goldenrod does kind of have a "gym socks" smell.. but it is sweeter and certainly not as offensive! :)
My Italians produced 3 supers worth but I kept one for them. Being it’s august there’s still goldenrod for them.
I see in a comment you are going to focus on nectar production next year. do you have a idea on what you are going to plant. I put out 50# of sweet yellow clover and 50# of crimson clover seed last week.i hope it gets established. I still need something for the hot summer months. I know I can plant buckwheat if we get the rain.
Buckwheat grows like a weed on our property. Relatively cheap and easy to spread. However, I did not see results in the hives. They had a solid 1/2 acre right next to the bee yard all through July when there was almost no other forage and the hives still remained empty through the dearth. I was hoping Buckwheat would be the answer for our dearth. I spread almost an acre of clover (red and white) right near the bee yard and it was almost totally taken over by grass. It just didn't take hold. I'm pretty frustrated with field crops. I have collected a lot of seeds from dandelion, milkweed and two types of goldenrod that grow well for us and I'm going to try to distribute it to some new corners of the property in hopes that it spreads naturally.
I am also looking for a rock star nectar plant for the month of July. If I can figure that out, it would change our whole beekeeping experience. Right now, they build up a bit in the spring, but all stores are depleted by mid July. Then they are fed for July and early August. The flow comes in hard the last week of August and is over by the second week of September.
Given our climate differences looks like we are in the same boat in the summer.
YAY I LOVE HONEY EXTRACTION VIDEOS
Thank you for another great video. Two questions; where did you purchase the 600 micron filter and how did you store the spring frames until you were ready to extract. TY.
darnbunny1 I have the filters linked in my amazon links: www.amazon.com/shop/vinofarm
As far as storing, honey doesn’t go bad as long as pests don’t get into it. I just had the frames hanging in an empty hive box in my living room all summer. Nothing special. Just keep mice, ants and moths away.
you may want to get a Honey Refractometer to test the Honey Moisture.
Did you remove the "spring" honey frames and store them somehow...or did you leave them on the hive and add more supers?
The spring honey frames were removed and stored for the season. I left some spring honey frames on some of the hives and they consumed it during their summer dearth.
Congrats on you're harvest!!!!!
Uhm i just wanna say if you extract The honey this way you Mix them so... (i am not an expert or something i just wanted to point that out.) Would it make sense to extract them seperatly? So each honey keeps it's flavor?
Õkami_ñé_Bákå _ There just wasn’t enough to go through all that trouble. Separating by the season was really great to taste the difference.
@@vinofarm ah okay But if you had more of the season honey it's okay to separate? (I wanna have my own hive next year)
You have to turn those mediums around too. If you are gonna run it full. Will go way faster you just run 4 at a time. Those extracters exaggerate there capacity.
Thank you Vino
i've always been curious, what do you do with the wax? are you gonna make candles in a future video? 🐝💕
Nice job 👍 now it’s time to check for pest and treat the hives if need, gotta make sure all those hive make it through the winter
Yup.
I run all deep frames and can extract three in 3 minutes(not including frame loading time and unloading time). Cells are empty and frame is nearly dry. Remember cells are 15 degrees upwards, so better to have top bar on leading edge in rotation. I uncap, spin one side slowly(just flinging out honey) for 30 seconds, stop and flip the frames. Start slowly so just slinging out honey, them ramp up the speed. Maybe takes ?1.5 minutes. Stop and flip frames and run at full speed to completely empty first side. The 3100P is a great extractor for ?up to 1000 lbs of honey in a season.
What kind of honey are you extracting and how warm is it?
Hey buddy!! A tip for you: do not mix the honey from the operculum, keep it separate. Because it is the last honey made by bees, it has better properties and is softer .....
im so interested in this thoe im a dairy farmer and tomato,cucumbers,squash and watermelon I never knew you had to do all this for a bee farm.
You always make me crave the honey!
how long does it take to extract the honey from both sides?
Wonderful video! Love watching you tend your hives and seeing your finished product, your spring honey was just gorgeous. What do you do with your beeswax?
i'm not a big fan of honey mostly because it's too sweet for me but i mostly went and bought honey around november so it was most likely fall honey.. i might go to him at the end of spring and ask for spring honey to see if that one is my taste
I try to get honeycomb for this reason - I find it's not so sickly sweet. But it's very very difficult to get/find. (I think it's more a case of finding the local beeks to ask, because the shops do/will not sell it. Not even the health food shops.)
@@kme
oh yeah i already buy from a local beekeeper that lives a few minutes away from me! store bought honey tends to generally be a lot sweeter so i don't buy it anyway
The best thing is this gives you some Merch to sell or offer Patreon supporters.
Before you sell one drop check the prices for your area online. Its easy. Right now it's $5.47/pound wholesale for honey harvested in September in central illinois. Our fall crop is sold and it's still on hives. $60/gallon.
But is your honey TH-cam famous???
@@vinofarm is that like being Jeapardy smart? Let me know when you've shipped honey to Alaska.
Since we're measuring err things we made well over 100 gallons with about 4 times the colonies this season. 30 production 10 nucs. Youll get there once you've got the drawn supers. Mann Lake bottling tank on sale right now for $995. Great deal.
Did you test the water content?