Absolutely beautiful movement! Thanks for sharing! It's now clear that Sellita has taken the role that ETA use to play, and as far as I can tell they're doing a good job at that. The Sellita and ETA movements are phenomenal workhorses but this hand-wound UWD 33.1 is playing in a different league! Truly exquisite, especially for the money.
Hi Bubba, it's a little difference but an important one-this was done by Marko Lang ... without the "e." However, you are absolutely right! Anything done by Lang, is excellence expressed both ascetically and through the craftsmanship of the work. Kindest regards, Bill
Bill thank you for adding the Sinn movement in your video today after us discussing it the other day cause Sinn has a line of watches that alot of people are unaware of that are truly well done and I've seen the 6100 series for very reasonable price for the same movement the 6200 offer.
@@watchartsci perfectly fine just appreciate the mention of the watch and has everything to do with just everything I've learned from watching your channel that made me even aware of different movements and what to look for . Before I found your channel was just bouncing around buying watches that reviewer told me were good watches instead of doing the work and learning about different movements myself and digging in have alot of respect for you Bill Sanders thank you so much for doing what you do there's alot of content out there but you really focus on different movements and complications that's help guide me .
Shipmate, unfortunately since that video was made, Lang & Heyne (as link to UWD) has indicated that they will no longer be making the UWD 33.1 (or 33.2) available. The bell-shaped finger bridges are brilliant little structures that allow the collector to see the movement, and a beautiful one it is. Take care, Bill
Love this movement. With just a little customization, I think these UWD 33.1 does reach the level of ultra high horology. Are there any other makers using this movement today?
@@watchartsci I think it's a beautiful movement all the way around. I would love to own a Lang & Heyne but it's way out of my price range. Plus my wife would kill me. But with the UWD 33.1 you have a movement designed by Marco Lang for a price that is within reach. I'm not crazy about the Leinfelder dials however. Of course my wife would probably still kill me.
Hey Bill, I think that this UWD is brilliant! I think that the ETA shortage will happen in 2021, not 2020. They still supply their movements to very many brands. There is another contender. The Atelier Movement is bringing back watchmaking to America. I think the movement itself may be as reliable or more reliable than ETA. It is a little more expensive than the standard ETA. However, it has a better technicality.
Thx Bill, great video. This seems to be a kind of „role model“ for a nice watch with a non-in-house movement - but with an excellent one. I’m looking for (steel) watches below 20K budget with excellent hand wound movements and 2.5-3 Hz. Any tipps from your side? Regards, Ruediger
Back in October of 2018 you did a video about building a $5,000 watch for $105. I am wondering if you could do this with the UWD 33.1? I emailed UWD asking if they would sell the movements and what would be the smallest order you could place. I have not heard back. If it's something like 10 movements for a minimum order, I would even be willing to go in with a few people so we could all get UWD 33.1
@@watchartsci Also, there is rectangular Lang & Heyne on Chrono 24 for sale. I think it's called "George". Anyway, it also uses that three bridge movement. So I think it is a design by Marco Lang. I couldn't the picture to post. But if you go to Chrono 24 (I go a couple of times a week and I have a feeling you do too) there is a good photo of the three bridge movement.
Bruce, wouldn't it be great if Uhren Werke Dresden really did something with their movement? Make it more available by expanding production at UWD by hiring more watchmakers to assemble the movements. There are so many movements that I'd like to get my mitts on! Cheers, Bill
Frantisek, without an annual or perpetual calendar, my dates always get screwed up ... so I like the clean dials with not date window.... except on my Parmigiani watches! Cheers, Bill
The concept and construction of this movement is very similar to L&H cal. VIII(for Georg) that I think very attractive. Yes it's not decorated by hand, but that can be applied later by each brand. I'm not sure about its price, but I would guess around the level of Vaucher or even higher.
Hey Leya, at first I didn't see it, but now that you mention it, I see your point about the Caliber VIII. (mine has a Caliber VI). Your point is an excellent one, thanks! Bill
Bill, Aren't ETA's used because they are solid mass produced stainless steel stamped movements? I would think the Vostok 2416B would replace the ETA before that labor-intensive Lang.🤔
Yep, and they're Swiss made, RedPride! Vostok may not fly because they're not Swiss made. Instead of sneaking in ETAs, maybe IWC, Cartier and Breitling will come clean and use the UWD 33.1. They charge enough for the ETAs to cover the cost of the Langs- problem would be developing enough UWD 33.1 movements. Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci You're right, I did not factor in the Vostok movement is not a Swiss made. I was only trying to draw the comparison to the cost of a mass produced ETA to that of the more attention to detailed Lang.
Hi Bill, the Leinfelder Benno features the Blue and White diamond pattern of the Bavarian flag.and also a famous Munich landmark the Frauernkirche, I think. I should imagine this is popular in that region but not too sure about anywhere else.. I think I would go for a Sinn given the choice.. Don’t understand Swatch Groups decision to restrict ETA sales, sounds like cutting off their nose to spite their face. Best regards for the Christmas season
Paul, after reading what you said, I like the Benno far better! I did not know that the blue/white pattern was from the Bavarian flag, and I was just in Nuremberg in May! Thank you for that information. Cheers, Bill
We're already seeing Sellitas all over the place. I'm wondering if we'll see Eterna step in with their new modular Caliber 39 and start to become a big movement supplier once again. That would be ironic, no?
Dear Bill, We may be headed into a new golden age of movements. If one looks at the terrain of watch manufacturing, the greatest risk is in starting a new watch brand or in growing a smaller but established watch brand. The world of micro brands with contract assembly, particularly, in Asia has brought the entry price down and has created an explosion of brands, most of whom, but not all will fail. There is the odd Bremont or Ming but most will disappear. There are fewer doors open to new or emerging brands and the internet world is awfully crowded. By way of contrast, there are barriers to starting up a movement company in terms of capitalization and supply chain plus it requires a high level in-house technical/engineering mastery which few possess. While it can be tough to get a movement company off the ground under ordinary circumstances (one should listen to Richard Habring’s 2019 talk at the Horological Society of New York to gain an appreciation of this), once you get a movement company off the ground they seem to provide a more stable business trajectory than trying to develop a watch brand. A case in point is Parmigiani. The watch brand is problematic but Vaucher and the other technical companies are likely much more stable. Ditto for Moser and its Precision Engineer, AG hairspring company. Fiona Kruger may or may not survive as a brand but there is no question about Aginhor’s survival. To paraphrase, give a man a watch brand and he will end up hungry and poor but give a man a movement manufacturer and he will end up fat and prosperous. Great short video and Inwill be on the look out for UWD movements.
Hi Howard, how I hope we're on the cusp of a second 21st Centry Mechanical Watch Renaissance. We are fortunate to have been witness to the creation and growth a companies heralding everything from German Reunification to demand for watches crafted after the masters like John Harrison and Abraham Breguet...starting in the 1990s and blooming in the first 20 years of the new millennium... consider some of the quality watches now available that were either defunct or never existed before the 21st Century: A. Lange & Söhne Lang & Heyne De Bethune Philippe Dufour Parmigiani Fleurier Rolf Lang Dresden Roger Dubuis Habring2 Roger Smith Voutilainen Laurent Ferrier Agenhor (Jean-Marc Wiederrecht) Greubel Forsey Daniel Roth Berthoud Grönefeld Christophe Claret H. Moser et Cie Moritz Grossmann Bovet 1822 With this latest move by the Swiss we'll see opportunities for well-funded enterprises like ValFleurier to flourish (whether that is a good or bad thing is yet to be seen) and fledgling ones like UWD to gain the traction needed to expand-whether they'll be able to do that beyond the 33.1 without the genius of Marko Lang is a horse of a different color. Also, look to Asia for new talent to emerge. Cheers, Bill
That’s a very cool looking movement indeed thanks for bringing it to our attention! Regular viewers of your content are aware that you prefer 3hz movements but I really wish you would caveat it with something like “this is a personal prejudice” (just like you want iwc to be fully transparent on their movements). The frequency of a watch is meaningless until you understand the entire watch and how it uses the frequency. You are predominately drawn to dress watches I could argue a Higher frequency is better for sports watches. But again, frequency doesn’t matter, it’s how the movement is using the frequency which matters. The Seiko 5 is a 3hz watch the El Primero is 5hz watch. Which is the “better” movement? And does any of this matter if we decide to ditch the balance wheel? I’m thinking quartz, atomic, etc etc I think the engineering equations change.
Neo ... why do I prefer the lower frequencies? I never ask other collectors about 4Hz being a "herd prejudice." Can you tell me? Why is it that Philippe Dufour, Kari Voutilainen, Roger Smith ... and all of the top watchmakers prefer lower frequencies? It's watchmaking craftsmanship. It is not a personal prejudice ... it is a preference of craftsmanship over the herd mentality that never really asks those kinds of question. Maybe it's time for you to ask yourself, "Why do I like 4 and 5Hz over the lower frequencies?" What is your answer? Because it's the most popular? That's ok...being popular is important to some. Craftsmanship is important to me. Take care, Bill
WatchArtSci I find that In watches under $15,000 higher frequencies (4hz or 5hz) offer better stabilization translating into better accuracy. With this said, if I were a hotshot watchmaker of course I’d perform mental masturbation trying to squeeze as much out of 3hz as I could, it would be fun engineering! Btw, you didn’t mention that Journe is perfectly okay using 32.768 Hz 🤓 you know, all the best photographers are still using pinhole cameras and all the best computer scientists are still programming at machine level. 🤟
Neo, FPJ uses 3Hz on his mechanical watches-you're talking about the quartz. The lower frequencies allow the use of larger balance wheels for great stability. Listen, there's nothing wrong with 4Hz or 5Hz ... enjoy them. The lower frequencies aren't for everyone. (BTW, you can find a 2.5 Hz movement in the Tissot Heritage Petite Seconde at a great price...then you can tell movement snobs like me to stuff it!-watchwarehouse.com/tissot-heritage-petite-seconde-silver-dial-42mm-mens-watch-t1194051603700/?gclid=CjwKCAiAluLvBRASEiwAAbX3GQwLApjVvSBlQB88ky_A6VNQm31weeV-nwiIi3E-GjE7u84MeF9hkBoC2dgQAvD_BwE . Take care, Bill😉
Neo, a $10 quartz or a GS Spring Drive will beat any mechanical watch as far as accuracy-a 5Hz Zenith will beat most 4Hz movements. I like the big balances in the low frequency watches and the craftsmanship. Look at the balance on this Kari Voutilainen Vingt 8- www.hodinkee.com/articles/kari-voutilainen-vingt-8-titanium-found Unfortunately, that kind of craftsmanship is expensive. Virtually a Audemars Piguet watches are 3Hz and H. Mosers are 2.5 and 3Hz. This doesn't mean you can't find craftsmanship in the 4Hz watches. My Habring2 is hand-made and runs at 4Hz ... a fun rarity that out-performs every other watch I own! My favorite though is this Caliber VI - www.lang-und-heyne.de/en/caliber/caliber-vi/ What's your favorite watch and movement? Cheers, Bill
Yes, Tõnis, the UWD 33.1 is a work of art. I didn't know it costs 2x the price of the Vaucher micro rotor. Where did you find the price of the UWD? I tried and was unable. Thanks, Bill
@@watchartsci I am in personal contact with them. I am a watchmaker and planning on using it in my watches. The cost of the rhodium plated UWD 33.1 is 3500EUR = 3800USD
Hi Kuglepen, yes, but there are lots of watches out there with hidden ETA movements with high horology price tags... wouldn't it be nice for us to get our money's worth for a change? I've got a feeling the ValFleurier will be stepping up production too! Cheers, Bill
it actually is indeed by a factor you would not imagine. in terms of numbers produced and quality and handmade work, you cannot compare them at all. it is like a comparison between a vw golf 1.2 engine and a corvette (handbuild) engine. there is no comparison so to say. and that is why a single uwd movement is more expensive than an whole eta watch (!) from most of the (micro) brands.
Absolutely beautiful movement! Thanks for sharing! It's now clear that Sellita has taken the role that ETA use to play, and as far as I can tell they're doing a good job at that. The Sellita and ETA movements are phenomenal workhorses but this hand-wound UWD 33.1 is playing in a different league! Truly exquisite, especially for the money.
Well said Håkan! That's a movement that deserves a big exhibition window in the back! Take care, Bill
Excellent discussion! Thank you!
Always, my pleasure, Richard. Cheers, Bill
Great movement Bill. Cost of this for a watch not cost effective for not having “an in-house movement” though.
Nice video mate
You're right about the price, but considering the price of excellent horology, it's a bargain, Tim! Take care and be safe, Bill 😷
Hi Bill. The uwd 33 looks beautiful indeed. Be interesting to see more movements. Very smart watches. Best regards lee
Hey Lee, maybe there's a way to get a decent watch together for around $5k using the UWD 33.1. Wouldn't that be fun! Cheers, Bill
Thanks Bill,great video.Cheers
Hey Decon, thanks man! Cheers, Bill
I like the movement!👍 It has a good look. Though anything with Lange behind it is usually ascetically pleasing. 😉
Hi Bubba, it's a little difference but an important one-this was done by Marko Lang ... without the "e." However, you are absolutely right! Anything done by Lang, is excellence expressed both ascetically and through the craftsmanship of the work. Kindest regards, Bill
Bill thank you for adding the Sinn movement in your video today after us discussing it the other day cause Sinn has a line of watches that alot of people are unaware of that are truly well done and I've seen the 6100 series for very reasonable price for the same movement the 6200 offer.
Mark, I think it was you who mentioned that I left it out, and I wanted to include it for Sinn and the UWD 33.1. Thank you! Kindest regards, Bill
@@watchartsci perfectly fine just appreciate the mention of the watch and has everything to do with just everything I've learned from watching your channel that made me even aware of different movements and what to look for . Before I found your channel was just bouncing around buying watches that reviewer told me were good watches instead of doing the work and learning about different movements myself and digging in have alot of respect for you Bill Sanders thank you so much for doing what you do there's alot of content out there but you really focus on different movements and complications that's help guide me .
This looks like an updated Unitas 6497/6498, but I worry about the longevity of the multiple, thin bridges for the wheels.
Shipmate, unfortunately since that video was made, Lang & Heyne (as link to UWD) has indicated that they will no longer be making the UWD 33.1 (or 33.2) available. The bell-shaped finger bridges are brilliant little structures that allow the collector to see the movement, and a beautiful one it is. Take care, Bill
Love this movement. With just a little customization, I think these UWD 33.1 does reach the level of ultra high horology. Are there any other makers using this movement today?
What I like best about the 33.1, Bob, is the way the individual bell-shaped finger bridges secure the wheels in the gear-train. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci I think it's a beautiful movement all the way around. I would love to own a Lang & Heyne but it's way out of my price range. Plus my wife would kill me. But with the UWD 33.1 you have a movement designed by Marco Lang for a price that is within reach. I'm not crazy about the Leinfelder dials however. Of course my wife would probably still kill me.
Hey Bill, I think that this UWD is brilliant!
I think that the ETA shortage will happen in 2021, not 2020. They still supply their movements to very many brands.
There is another contender. The Atelier Movement is bringing back watchmaking to America. I think the movement itself may be as reliable or more reliable than ETA. It is a little more expensive than the standard ETA. However, it has a better technicality.
Hey Tippy! Yes, some watchmaking is creeping back into the US. Maybe the new ETA rule will spur more! Hope so! Cheers, Bill
Is Lang&Heyne Hektor cal.33.2 derived from UWD33.1 ?
Wa, yes. Essentially it's a 33.1 with a center second. Take care, Bill
Thx Bill, great video. This seems to be a kind of „role model“ for a nice watch with a non-in-house movement - but with an excellent one. I’m looking for (steel) watches below 20K budget with excellent hand wound movements and 2.5-3 Hz. Any tipps from your side? Regards, Ruediger
This is the watch you want then, Ruediger- th-cam.com/video/VvVFhp_yxLU/w-d-xo.html Take care, Bill
Back in October of 2018 you did a video about building a $5,000 watch for $105. I am wondering if you could do this with the UWD 33.1? I emailed UWD asking if they would sell the movements and what would be the smallest order you could place. I have not heard back. If it's something like 10 movements for a minimum order, I would even be willing to go in with a few people so we could all get UWD 33.1
Yes Bob, but the expensive part would be getting a case for it. This is a project I'd like to take on in the future as well. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Also, there is rectangular Lang & Heyne on Chrono 24 for sale. I think it's called "George". Anyway, it also uses that three bridge movement. So I think it is a design by Marco Lang. I couldn't the picture to post. But if you go to Chrono 24 (I go a couple of times a week and I have a feeling you do too) there is a good photo of the three bridge movement.
@@bobbundens5530 Yes, the Georg...love it!
Great video Bill, very interesting. As the shortage of ETA movements grows, maybe we will see more brands using these movements.
Bruce, wouldn't it be great if Uhren Werke Dresden really did something with their movement? Make it more available by expanding production at UWD by hiring more watchmakers to assemble the movements. There are so many movements that I'd like to get my mitts on! Cheers, Bill
What is the other brand that has an adjustment for the regulator in their movements, was it Nomos?
Hi Erik, if you mean the "woodpecker" it was Mühle Glashütte. (I think I said, "grasshopper...") Cheers, Bill
WatchArtSci exactly! I heard it from you but forgot which german brand it was. Thanks!
Nice pieces. I miss the date function though.
Frantisek, without an annual or perpetual calendar, my dates always get screwed up ... so I like the clean dials with not date window.... except on my Parmigiani watches! Cheers, Bill
The concept and construction of this movement is very similar to L&H cal. VIII(for Georg) that I think very attractive. Yes it's not decorated by hand, but that can be applied later by each brand. I'm not sure about its price, but I would guess around the level of Vaucher or even higher.
Hey Leya, at first I didn't see it, but now that you mention it, I see your point about the Caliber VIII. (mine has a Caliber VI). Your point is an excellent one, thanks! Bill
@@watchartsci The Cal. VI is also lovely and more interesting than the typical 3/4 plate layout 👍
Bill,
Aren't ETA's used because they are solid mass produced stainless steel stamped movements?
I would think the Vostok 2416B would replace the ETA before that labor-intensive Lang.🤔
Yep, and they're Swiss made, RedPride! Vostok may not fly because they're not Swiss made. Instead of sneaking in ETAs, maybe IWC, Cartier and Breitling will come clean and use the UWD 33.1. They charge enough for the ETAs to cover the cost of the Langs- problem would be developing enough UWD 33.1 movements. Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci
You're right, I did not factor in the Vostok movement is not a Swiss made. I was only trying to draw the comparison to the cost of a mass produced ETA to that of the more attention to detailed Lang.
Hi Bill, the Leinfelder Benno features the Blue and White diamond pattern of the Bavarian flag.and also a famous Munich landmark the Frauernkirche, I think. I should imagine this is popular in that region but not too sure about anywhere else..
I think I would go for a Sinn given the choice..
Don’t understand Swatch Groups decision to restrict ETA sales, sounds like cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Best regards for the Christmas season
Paul, after reading what you said, I like the Benno far better! I did not know that the blue/white pattern was from the Bavarian flag, and I was just in Nuremberg in May! Thank you for that information. Cheers, Bill
Hi Paul. It wasn't Swatch Group's choice but a competition commission requirement watchesbysjx.com/2019/12/eta-comco-sales-ban.html
@@everyones.shadow Hi Jeremy, thanks for the information
We're already seeing Sellitas all over the place. I'm wondering if we'll see Eterna step in with their new modular Caliber 39 and start to become a big movement supplier once again. That would be ironic, no?
Brian, forgot about Eterna ... now that would be interesting! Thanks, Bill
Dear Bill, We may be headed into a new golden age of movements. If one looks at the terrain of watch manufacturing, the greatest risk is in starting a new watch brand or in growing a smaller but established watch brand. The world of micro brands with contract assembly, particularly, in Asia has brought the entry price down and has created an explosion of brands, most of whom, but not all will fail. There is the odd Bremont or Ming but most will disappear. There are fewer doors open to new or emerging brands and the internet world is awfully crowded. By way of contrast, there are barriers to starting up a movement company in terms of capitalization and supply chain plus it requires a high level in-house technical/engineering mastery which few possess. While it can be tough to get a movement company off the ground under ordinary circumstances (one should listen to Richard Habring’s 2019 talk at the Horological Society of New York to gain an appreciation of this), once you get a movement company off the ground they seem to provide a more stable business trajectory than trying to develop a watch brand. A case in point is Parmigiani. The watch brand is problematic but Vaucher and the other technical companies are likely much more stable. Ditto for Moser and its Precision Engineer, AG hairspring company. Fiona Kruger may or may not survive as a brand but there is no question about Aginhor’s survival. To paraphrase, give a man a watch brand and he will end up hungry and poor but give a man a movement manufacturer and he will end up fat and prosperous. Great short video and Inwill be on the look out for UWD movements.
Hi Howard, how I hope we're on the cusp of a second 21st Centry Mechanical Watch Renaissance. We are fortunate to have been witness to the creation and growth a companies heralding everything from German Reunification to demand for watches crafted after the masters like John Harrison and Abraham Breguet...starting in the 1990s and blooming in the first 20 years of the new millennium... consider some of the quality watches now available that were either defunct or never existed before the 21st Century:
A. Lange & Söhne
Lang & Heyne
De Bethune
Philippe Dufour
Parmigiani Fleurier
Rolf Lang Dresden
Roger Dubuis
Habring2
Roger Smith
Voutilainen
Laurent Ferrier
Agenhor (Jean-Marc Wiederrecht)
Greubel Forsey
Daniel Roth
Berthoud
Grönefeld
Christophe Claret
H. Moser et Cie
Moritz Grossmann
Bovet 1822
With this latest move by the Swiss we'll see opportunities for well-funded enterprises like ValFleurier to flourish (whether that is a good or bad thing is yet to be seen) and fledgling ones like UWD to gain the traction needed to expand-whether they'll be able to do that beyond the 33.1 without the genius of Marko Lang is a horse of a different color. Also, look to Asia for new talent to emerge. Cheers, Bill
That’s a very cool looking movement indeed thanks for bringing it to our attention! Regular viewers of your content are aware that you prefer 3hz movements but I really wish you would caveat it with something like “this is a personal prejudice” (just like you want iwc to be fully transparent on their movements). The frequency of a watch is meaningless until you understand the entire watch and how it uses the frequency. You are predominately drawn to dress watches I could argue a
Higher frequency is better for sports watches. But again, frequency doesn’t matter, it’s how the movement is using the frequency which matters. The Seiko 5 is a 3hz watch the El Primero is 5hz watch. Which is the “better” movement? And does any of this matter if we decide to ditch the balance wheel? I’m thinking quartz, atomic, etc etc I think the engineering equations change.
Neo ... why do I prefer the lower frequencies? I never ask other collectors about 4Hz being a "herd prejudice." Can you tell me? Why is it that Philippe Dufour, Kari Voutilainen, Roger Smith ... and all of the top watchmakers prefer lower frequencies? It's watchmaking craftsmanship. It is not a personal prejudice ... it is a preference of craftsmanship over the herd mentality that never really asks those kinds of question. Maybe it's time for you to ask yourself, "Why do I like 4 and 5Hz over the lower frequencies?" What is your answer? Because it's the most popular? That's ok...being popular is important to some. Craftsmanship is important to me. Take care, Bill
WatchArtSci I find that In watches under $15,000 higher frequencies (4hz or 5hz) offer better stabilization translating into better accuracy. With this said, if I were a hotshot watchmaker of course I’d perform mental masturbation trying to squeeze as much out of 3hz as I could, it would be fun engineering! Btw, you didn’t mention that Journe is perfectly okay using 32.768 Hz 🤓 you know, all the best photographers are still using pinhole cameras and all the best computer scientists are still programming at machine level. 🤟
Neo, FPJ uses 3Hz on his mechanical watches-you're talking about the quartz. The lower frequencies allow the use of larger balance wheels for great stability. Listen, there's nothing wrong with 4Hz or 5Hz ... enjoy them. The lower frequencies aren't for everyone. (BTW, you can find a 2.5 Hz movement in the Tissot Heritage Petite Seconde at a great price...then you can tell movement snobs like me to stuff it!-watchwarehouse.com/tissot-heritage-petite-seconde-silver-dial-42mm-mens-watch-t1194051603700/?gclid=CjwKCAiAluLvBRASEiwAAbX3GQwLApjVvSBlQB88ky_A6VNQm31weeV-nwiIi3E-GjE7u84MeF9hkBoC2dgQAvD_BwE . Take care, Bill😉
WatchArtSci if the same uber expert watch maker had to produce a $5000 watch at 3hz or 4hz which do you think would be the most accurate ?
Neo, a $10 quartz or a GS Spring Drive will beat any mechanical watch as far as accuracy-a 5Hz Zenith will beat most 4Hz movements. I like the big balances in the low frequency watches and the craftsmanship. Look at the balance on this Kari Voutilainen Vingt 8- www.hodinkee.com/articles/kari-voutilainen-vingt-8-titanium-found Unfortunately, that kind of craftsmanship is expensive. Virtually a Audemars Piguet watches are 3Hz and H. Mosers are 2.5 and 3Hz. This doesn't mean you can't find craftsmanship in the 4Hz watches. My Habring2 is hand-made and runs at 4Hz ... a fun rarity that out-performs every other watch I own! My favorite though is this Caliber VI - www.lang-und-heyne.de/en/caliber/caliber-vi/ What's your favorite watch and movement? Cheers, Bill
This movement is beautiful with a reason. It's 10x the cost of a regular ETA and 2x the cost of Vaucher microrotor. It's definitively haute horology.
Yes, Tõnis, the UWD 33.1 is a work of art. I didn't know it costs 2x the price of the Vaucher micro rotor. Where did you find the price of the UWD? I tried and was unable. Thanks, Bill
@@watchartsci I am in personal contact with them. I am a watchmaker and planning on using it in my watches. The cost of the rhodium plated UWD 33.1 is 3500EUR = 3800USD
@@leissoo1 yes but the Vaucher Microroter 5401/180 cost $5500 swiss frank :)
@@RedloxBeats I wrote the comment a year ago. I haven't checked Vaucher prices lately but I highly doubt it 5500 if you buy in bulk.
@@leissoo1 it's $5500 for a piece and about $5000 for 25 pieces. for $150 pieces they told me about $1800 a piece
Nice looking movement, but looks to be way pricier than any ETA.
Hi Kuglepen, yes, but there are lots of watches out there with hidden ETA movements with high horology price tags... wouldn't it be nice for us to get our money's worth for a change? I've got a feeling the ValFleurier will be stepping up production too! Cheers, Bill
it actually is indeed by a factor you would not imagine. in terms of numbers produced and quality and handmade work, you cannot compare them at all.
it is like a comparison between a vw golf 1.2 engine and a corvette (handbuild) engine. there is no comparison so to say.
and that is why a single uwd movement is more expensive than an whole eta watch (!) from most of the (micro) brands.