Remembering Vanilla Tirisfal Glades | Zone Retrospective

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  • @seanconant3218
    @seanconant3218 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    Tirisfal is where the game cinematic shows the undead warlock summon two Infernals. That wicked aspiration made that place special to newbie warlocks.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@seanconant3218 sure is! got that clip and a mention of that in the vid 😁 it's the agamand mills!

  • @Uielyave
    @Uielyave 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    First time entering Undercity gave me chills. Especially hearing the voices of Arthas and his father in the throne room. i hadn;t played any of the Warcraft Games before playing WoW, so hearing the voices was super spooky and it made me love the Undercity even more.
    I also loved Brill as it was a decent RP town before it all changed.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Uielyave yeah I figured everyone knew that Easter egg which is why I did not mention, but the throne room voices are such a nice touch

  • @lucacastellotto6890
    @lucacastellotto6890 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I’ve never played wow but I’m still here for the vibes and nostalgia 🙌

  • @ahealthkit2745
    @ahealthkit2745 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt so enthralled by Vanilla Tirisfal! That place had such a mystery and flavour to it that felt so homely, despite crawling with zombies and spirits!

  • @luciuscincinnatus5019
    @luciuscincinnatus5019 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    During my elementary days of the early 2000s as a product of the times, worshiping Bam Margera and being a skateboarder goth/punk poser, I of course made a Undead Warlock the first time my older brother made me play WoW. I spent many hours in this zone asking my bro about the lore and trying to find the connections and remnants of the previous Warcraft games in Tirisfal. Got hooked after that. This video bought back fond memories. You've gained another subscriber sir

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@luciuscincinnatus5019 the older brother thing resonates. I only started playing cause my older brothers uninstalled CoD to make room for it. I cried about it for like a week then tried WoW finally and... well I suppose you can guess I liked it quite a bit 😂

    • @luciuscincinnatus5019
      @luciuscincinnatus5019 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@lurker_yt it's awesome you replied. I didn't realize how new your channel is. With the quality of your videos and content you're bound to grow. 😆 yeah I used to bully my bro and call him a nerd for being inside alot and not going outside to play ball or whatever I was doing with my school friends at the time. I remember trying to get him to come with me one day and he got annoyed of me making fun of the game then made me play it. Basically I was telling someone doing crack that it's lame then they told me I'm just not strong enough to do it. Then I did it. Now I'm 2 years sober

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@luciuscincinnatus5019 stay strong brother 👊 let the vids tide you over. appreciate the compliments! please come back for the next!

    • @luciuscincinnatus5019
      @luciuscincinnatus5019 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lurker_yt haha 😄 will do

  • @goawaygosh
    @goawaygosh 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    “I prefer to pretend that nothing exists after the original trilogy”
    I’m thinking based, based beyond belief.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ulduar was peak WoW and Icecrown was the end of the story.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@goawaygosh seen nothing good post Wrath and tbh even Wrath was a little too in your face for my taste, but at least we're not a chronicle-level lore proscription in wotlk

    • @Ar1AnX1x
      @Ar1AnX1x 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I mean if you wanna go down that road, Vanilla, BC and WOTLK were also a complete downgrade in writing compared to Warcraft 3 and the original books

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  57 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Ar1AnX1x yes I agree. especially wrath. the overdone cutscenes, over the top quest lines like the battle for UC, and lich king VOs were the beginning of the end

  • @oolacilian
    @oolacilian 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    vanilla brill will always live in my heart

    • @Knight-of-Sarcasm
      @Knight-of-Sarcasm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's where I met the entity of the Headless Horseman during Wrath's Hallowed End going WTH is that?????? I started end of BE so it was doubly amazing to me and fit the ambience of the zone even more!

  • @skellyzero
    @skellyzero 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Damn what a great video. I was lucky to be a kid when WoW came out, lucky to experience all this and still have fantastic memories of it. This video hits right in the feels yo. At the end ive seen you have little over 1k subs. You have the quality ma dude, keep it up and you can make it big. I was there when Taliesin & Evitel started, first time i saw their video was when they had 13k subscribers. And also Wille, i saw him when he saw under 10k subs. Hope one day soon i can say the same thing for you… i was there when lurker had 1.1k subs!

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@skellyzero appreciate the encouragement man 🤍 we press on!

  • @AlanG58
    @AlanG58 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Great video! My first character in 05 was an Orc warrior. As soon as I zoned into that Durotar starting area, I immediately disliked the place. It was too bright and not my style at all. So, I decided to leave and look for a different place. I had never played an online game, and my only previous Warcraft experience was Warcraft 2 years before. So, I found the starting zone exit, found the road that led to Razor Hill, said meh to there too and kept going. Spotted the zeppelin tower and by luck picked the one to Tirisfal - not knowing what that was. The zeppelin reaches Tirisfal Glades and immediately I loved it. The atmosphere, ambient music, everything was perfect. I disembarked the zeppelin, went to Brill, noticed I couldn't do much there, so I wandered out, past the cemetery, Cold Hearth Manor, kept going until seeing the entrance to Deathknell, wandered in and thought 'This'll do!' and went from there. As I got to be higher level my hearthstone was set to Brill, then Undercity. Over the years if I made a new character, I'd take them to start in Deathknell when possible. In later expansions they modernized (ruined) Brill and Tirisfal Glades in general, sadly. But back then it sure was great!

  • @kendee_
    @kendee_ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    My first character was an undead warrior that I still main to this day, Tirisfal really stays with you years later.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kendee_ even after writing this video, still feel like it's hard to capture exactly why that is. it's a phenomenal zone

    • @FenrirFrostborn
      @FenrirFrostborn 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      WoW undead are the best. i too made an undead warrior a few weeks after launch and have mained him ever since.

  • @kolsfug3148
    @kolsfug3148 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Excellent analysis of a player-experience matching my own! I played through the zone multiple times pre-Cata, and it was the only zone where I always took my time exploring the spaces between the quests. Seeing Gordo in the distance for the first time and instinctly running away, only to discover that he was in fact not some wandering boss but a friendly questgiver was a core-memory for me!

  • @dylanramsey5817
    @dylanramsey5817 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    It's a kill quest, but I always remember helping a woman make a blanket to keep her comfortable in her final moments before she loses her mind to the Lich King again. 😢

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@dylanramsey5817 the chill of death 🥺

  • @jpg6113
    @jpg6113 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was fully immersed into Warcraft 3's campaign so i pretty much had to pick undead to start my WOW journey. I'm happy to have experienced it's Vanilla version

  • @wm_wm4
    @wm_wm4 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My very first character in WoW was about 6 months after the release of vanilla. It was an undead priest. I was absolutely terrified and intrigued by the world I found myself in. Before playing WoW, my only foray into MMOs was Ragnarok Online. Its vibrant, pixel-drawn characters, living in sunny, isometric environments, were starkly contrasted to the dread of Tirisfal in WoW. I was hooked!

  • @squidjism
    @squidjism 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I regret not playing wow when it came out, but i did play when classic was released a handful of years ago. I absolutely loved it, playing with my wife and kid intil the end of wrath was incredibly fun, all 3 9f us had different playthroughs, the kid was pvp focused, my wife was power leveling to min max raiding, and i was the explorer, reading every quest, book, opening every chest, and unlocking the map's fog every chance I could. I cherish the fun i did have playing the classic trilogy.

  • @clintonmaciel4151
    @clintonmaciel4151 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m a loyal Alliance player, but I’ve created multiple undead players to play through this zone. Great video man!

  • @robinmichel9048
    @robinmichel9048 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brill and the Undercity are my favorite locations in the game. Creepy, spooky perfection. My first character back in 2006 was an Undead rogue that I started just as the Christmas season started. I have such fond memories of Brill with Christmas lights.

  • @FredMendo
    @FredMendo 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This was perfect. I just started a troll hunter in SoD and decided to leave my starting zone for Tirisfal Glades.
    Then i find this video. Great work. Keep it up.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@FredMendo it's always hard for me to know whether these videos are being watched by current or former wow players. Maybe some of both. Glad this could accompany you on your tirisfal adventure!

  • @HYDRAdude
    @HYDRAdude 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Captures what really made Vanilla WoW so great.

  • @Fuzzidio
    @Fuzzidio 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please keep up these Zone Retrospective videos, i love them

  • @Mg95a
    @Mg95a 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember questing through Tirisfal on my Blood Elf Warlock during the Christmas holidays of 07. It was the Saturday after we broke up from school, I got my Imp on Sunstrider Isle then went straight to Deathknell and the whole zone just felt amazing.
    I was 12 at the time, so I wanted to play a class shared between Blood Elves and Undead and I was scared of the zone, so I wanted a pet to help me, so Warlock was chosen
    After playing W3 (and since I only played Belfs and Nelfs) Tirisfal was exactly what I expected, following Sylvanas' take over and the destruction that Arthas had wrought.
    The Agamand questline was one which stood out the most

  • @BreakingTheGleipnir
    @BreakingTheGleipnir 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This zone always takes me back in nostalgia. I can only second everything youve said in the video. For me, this is the one zone in WoW I can always go back to and enjoy

  • @gabrieladerre2862
    @gabrieladerre2862 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love Tirisfal Glades! Despite most of my characters being Blood Elves, I leveled roughly half of them in the Forsaken starting areas. Those are the only 2 Racial Starting Zones that I liked l, on the Horde side. And I was always able to get decent looking gear from questing in those areas! Which was a priority back when I played, from WOTLK to MOP. I really want to biy a gaming computer in the near future, so that I can play WoW! Hopefully by the year's end! 😺

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gabrieladerre2862 sharing from experience classic runs just fine on a 8gb laptop 😂 but I am wishing you luck getting the machine of your dreams!

  • @Waggehful
    @Waggehful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just found this channel today, this is amazing content. Great to watch at meal time or in bed. Subbed!

  • @NobushigeAzai
    @NobushigeAzai 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I stumbled upon this and everything in this analysis made me realize why I prefer Glenumbra as my starting zone in The Elder Scrolls Online.
    In vanilla played undead rogues and mages.
    When BC dropped I made a blood elf rogue which I never leveled to max, and a Blood Elf Mage which was my main.
    Both made trips through Tirisfal, but neither embraced it like my Blood Elf Warrior when Cataclysm dropped.
    I had him do all of his early leveling in undead zones.
    So much so that just recently when I played WoW again I went back to the Blood Elf starting zone I still had quests.
    In fact I'm playing through ghostlands on my warrior now.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ghostlands is sick. Don't miss the lament of the highborn thing at the end when you go to UC!

    • @NobushigeAzai
      @NobushigeAzai วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lurker_yt thanks for alerting me. I plan on doing the whole zone.

  • @alexknudsen2759
    @alexknudsen2759 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Loved this video, I agree with your statement. Tirisfall is so nostalgic for me.

  • @tapewormtimothy
    @tapewormtimothy วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used to love just exploring this zone

  • @kataramenoss12
    @kataramenoss12 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man I would really appreciate it if you did one for the barrens. I think it's THE most iconic area for the horde as it has so many memories for all of us with its famous "barrens chat"

  • @donalddank9070
    @donalddank9070 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice, make one on stranglethorn vale or duskwood next

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark
    @DrewPicklesTheDark 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing I liked about starting as a Forsaken was you start in a crypt and then you leave it and the guy is like "Ah you made it, thought we might have to throw out with the other ones." or something along those lines. Very different from the "Welcome recruit!" the others have.
    Also the reason Tirisfal feels more complete than other Horde zones isn't so much the Alliance were made first, but rather the _Eastern Kingdoms_ was made first (which has 2/3 of the Alli starting zones), that's why the Alliance zones are mostly better, but the Forsaken and Night Elf zone qualities are reversed. You see this in the higher level zones too where the Plaguelands are quite complete, but Silithus and Azshara feel unfinished. And even the mid-level zones on Kalimdor, while having a few solid ones, had many unfinished ones, such as Dustwallow which had the rest of it's quests made in _TBC_

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DrewPicklesTheDark thanks for this! that's a really good point

  • @apolloeosphoros4345
    @apolloeosphoros4345 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My first character was an Undead Warrior, I started playing in BC, 2007. I think I spent about 30 in game hours or more in Tirisfal lmao, the length of an entire singleplayer game. Still think it has an absolutely unmatched ambience and atmosphere all these years later, although I stopped playing WoW in 2016

  • @metavoid8080
    @metavoid8080 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    yay it's back!

  • @MeSS1516
    @MeSS1516 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    nice lore narrating. congrats. suggestion: Subtitles maybe. - keep the good work. Waiting more videos like this.

  • @Knight-of-Sarcasm
    @Knight-of-Sarcasm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really liked this zone. In the beginning I admit I created an undead on another person's account, and when I got my Battlechest, I created a BE to be able to play with my husband as his partner. We ran the Ghostlands and then I dead-ran from the gate with dozens of Plagueland deaths because I had to deliver the necklace to Sylvanas! I admit I still get turned around in Undercity despite it being so many years or get caught in the elevator from time to time. Being over there, I saw the zone's ambience and retraced my steps to the start of the undead quest progression and took my young warlock through that entire area's quest chains to Hammerfall when we flipped to Felwood. When Cata dropped I had a good thing and a bad thing--I cried when I flew over the ruins and saw just how detailed and gorgeous they were; flying undercovered a whole different viewpoint on many things that I had only seen from the ground up. Then I saw what they did to the quests, to Brill (hate it still today and especially after BTA), and Silverwood. Some of the new quests are funny, and I was proud to ride beside Sylvanas and hear her story, but it had lost that simple charm that existde for many many years.
    Thank you for the upload. Subbed and thumbs upped; I'll look for your other videos!

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Knight-of-Sarcasm thank you for sharing these memories! I'm glad this video could help evoke them 🙂

  • @sordschie3944
    @sordschie3944 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great my guy, keep it coming and take care! I love your vids

  • @starwarsfan795
    @starwarsfan795 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing video, my only two complaints are the music should be a little louder while you speak and I think you spoke a little too fast, like maybe 10%-15% slower would've been the perfect speed to accompany the mood and narrative of the video! I Subscribed, wishing you good luck in the future!

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@starwarsfan795 appreciate the feedback man! definitely still getting into the groove so this is greatly helpful

  • @Ar1AnX1x
    @Ar1AnX1x 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    great video

  • @supremeoverload1
    @supremeoverload1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the content!!

  • @Alienshroom
    @Alienshroom 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Appreciate the classic era only lore 👍

  • @royataylor7797
    @royataylor7797 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    another lurker banger

  • @xhlb69x
    @xhlb69x 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sometimes I wish I would have been one of the lucky people to have played this game since Vanilla. I bet it was amazing. Sure I can play classic now, but it wouldn't be the same.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@xhlb69x it certainly is not, but can sometimes be approximated if you insulate yourself/your friends from the rush. might do a vid on this topic sometime, very interested in it!

    • @caesaraugustus3749
      @caesaraugustus3749 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The thing is it's still the best version of world of warcraft. I started at the end of wotlk as a kid. I don't have nostalgia and still think classic is one of the goat video games. So give it a try and just enjoy it for what it is

  • @BlondieYouTube
    @BlondieYouTube 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My first experience was becoming an Undead in WoW. It was such an easy pick. Humans, Dwarves, Elves, Orcs.. sure.. those are options in most games. But becoming a freakin' zombie?!! Count me in!! I think the territory was also much better before Cata, in which it felt the Undead tried to return to their former human lives by living in the ruins of their former kingdom. I remember getting curious and ending up on the Zeppelin in Brill. Then eventually questing in Durotar, and going to the Barrens after.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@BlondieTH-cam zeppelins are so cool. they give the feeling of an expansive world way more than the trams do. Boats and zeppelins, huge for the sense of adventure in the world.

  • @PeterJ.Daniels
    @PeterJ.Daniels 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    subbed, make more of these

  • @usermarongoany5616
    @usermarongoany5616 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Welcome-Bear.
    My beloved.
    My first expirience on what a 💀?? meant.

    • @DrewPicklesTheDark
      @DrewPicklesTheDark 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mine was a Duskwood wolf, but my first Horde character was a Forsaken and I died to the welcome bear (well actually the UC elevator was the first to kill my Horde, but first mob.) I find it funny that those sort of things don't exist in modern WoW with the reason being it might be demoralizing for new players. For me it made me want to visit both Duskwood and WPL after I leveled up enough.

  • @dyslexiela8784
    @dyslexiela8784 วันที่ผ่านมา

    teldrassil next!!

  • @Ilfrinco
    @Ilfrinco 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant hahahah nice one

  • @ffarkasm
    @ffarkasm 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    By far Tirisfal Glades is my favourite Vanilla starting zone.
    The rest are in order:
    2. Teldrassil
    3. Mulgore
    4. Elwyn Forest
    5. Durotar
    6. Dun Morogh

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ffarkasm thanks for sharing! So interesting to see how these ranks would play out for people. Tied so close to our memories and hard even for me to be objective. But if I was being objective I think I'd put Elwynn top, tirisfal 2nd, dun morogh 3rd (sucker for snow ❄️)

  • @thatcanadian6698
    @thatcanadian6698 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't know if this is still the case, but undead warlocks were the only race that could get their imp before hitting level 2. It's been a while since I played WOW so that may have changed. Still I agree with your assessment about the atmosphere and general feel about the area. 16:58 I do disagree about the tavern music. I liked the original music they had before they changed it.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thatcanadian6698 I like it too, but not sure id call it cozy or relaxing 🥲

  • @shrikeace
    @shrikeace 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As an undead only player I've done the starting zone countless times both in OG vanilla and era, when everything was changed with cata it definitely felt like the atmosphere was completely altered and not in a good way.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@shrikeace yeah we don't talk about that 😂

    • @Knight-of-Sarcasm
      @Knight-of-Sarcasm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I hate the plague. It's coarse and green and gets everywhere even between the toes...

  • @Ar1AnX1x
    @Ar1AnX1x ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I hope you go deeper into retrospective/analysis style videos, for some reason this genre is rare in World of Warcraft youtube when other games like Elden Ring has lots of them, unless I've never ran into them on youtube or something

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  55 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Ar1AnX1x It's probably because WoW is very simple story wise. There's not much analysis to be done for the old game, and what analysis was left they just explained away in Chronicle. But yeah that's why I kinda thought this lore/game design/nostalgia format might work, and people seem to enjoy it. I enjoy making them for sure!

    • @Ar1AnX1x
      @Ar1AnX1x 44 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@lurker_yt yeah, this video kinda made me go "wait, why is this the first time I've watched someone actually analyze a WoW zone in a non-shallow way" or like a more thoughtful way, good job

  • @eduardogonzalez5348
    @eduardogonzalez5348 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    almost made me install wow classic again, almost.

    • @lurker_yt
      @lurker_yt  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@eduardogonzalez5348 I honestly don't even play usually 🥲 but when I do I prefer hardcore cause it slows the pace down and lets you appreciate these things.

  • @vic.olofrost
    @vic.olofrost 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hate Sylvanas so much.