@@punkydamonkey989HUMANITY in a nutshell. I agree that America can be pretty bad, and our political system and late stage capitalism do seem to reward corruption. But... Try living in Russia. Or North Korea. Or China. All countries and governments are only as good as the people who run them and live in them. And ALL government, whether Capitalist or Communist/Socialist, eventually run smack into the brick wall of human nature with the force of a speeding bus. Humans are either leaders or followers. And our lack of independent thought often leaves us open to manipulation and exploitation.
Star Wars has always been very critical of corporations, often mirroring things that real corporate powers have done in Earth's history. It's an aspect of the universe that I really like.
@@BlueTyphoon2017 people whine that modern star wars is political because it has more people than western european and north american men in prominient positions.
@@runakovacs4759 it always had people besides white men in power. Leia? Lando? Jabba? It's just that now the writing is hack and the diversity is forced, they actively like to bring down any white male original character too. Obi Wan, Luke, Han, Boba, Palpatine
it was going to be tapped by 1313 and Underworld series on Coruscant, but both of those got scrapped when Disney bought SW, now we haven't even seen Coruscant since the buyout (except in Martez sisters episode and short Rogue One scene)
Think an animated (anime, please!) serie of Brian Daley's early Han Solo adventures! LOT of characters, planets and action, furthermore NO Jedi/Siths or Empire!😁
I remember the Corporate Sector Authority from the two books from the Han Solo trilogy I read. I actually wrote a novelette about a smuggler working in the Corporate Sector, it started with a water run to Rampa.
@Flying Foam TV There was an older version of the CSA that was more nominally loyal but effectively neutral. And after the war the CSA swelled up with the loylist companies and loyalist branches of CIS conglomerates.
The Corporate Sector appeared to be the perfect location to do some series similar to Red Dead Redemption in Star Wars version if you asked me. Think about it, a band of outlaws or a gang of pirates persistingly raiding the ships of those megacorporations again and again. If Saw Garrera did not die and feel like he has no place in the Third Republic, then this will be the right place for him and his men to be. To fight against the corrupted corporations and help the peoples who live there.
@@grandmasteryoda8919 Yeah, but the rim is generally also more economically bad off, or at least that’s how it’s portrayed. The Corporate Sector would be great for like OP said, a bank robbing show or game or whatever. It’s 30,000 worlds geared towards being moneypits, ripe for Robin Hood antics by some well written space outlaw
One would think that the Galactic Empire would not allow this corporations to even exist unless they were nationalized by them. The Galactic Republic’s was a corrupt mess, but the Galactic Empire was more direct in its approach with these corporations, but no doubt that they kept a close eye to them.
The Corporate sector bought a lot of the very old ships (too old to be used in he Clone War) the Republic had and many new designs the Empire rejected. Also, do you have any idea how much revenue the Corporate Sector generated fro the Empire? A region of space with thousands of sectors where the CSA could even define which species is sentient and which is not? The only reason workers had rights was that people work better if you don't treat them as slaves? Palpatine had to finance his military somehow. Removing a lot of the Repiblic's social programs barley paid for the Clone Army. The Corporate Sector was also the source of many resources needed to build the Imperial Navy. While the CSA was well armed to deal with criminals and local rebellions, none of their ships could stand up against a Star Destroyer. Also, a military force strong enough to keep the Empire at bay would have been unprofitable. The corporations that made up the CSA also had their headquarters within the Empire, well within the reach of the Imperial military. Palpatine was already busy enough to control what was formerly the Republic. Adding the Corporate Sector would have stretched the Empire's forces thin in the beginning. Probably too thin.
@@grayscribe1342 Actually yeah people do work better if they don't live as slaves, my recent ancestors kept people to the detriment of society It weakens society and you lose more by enslavement We had steam engines for thousands of years, they weren't innovated on because This weakening that is slavery
I think the empire nationalised the corporations but keeped them around . The trade federation is mentioned in solo and the commerce guild in rebels. But i suspect palpatine sold stock or gifted it to his cronies.
CSA was imagined up at the time when Judge Dread style dystopia stories and the cyberpunk genre in general was in a major rise. As it is with huge franchises with uncountable number of writers they do reflect the period they were made in.
The CIS was in a rough position to begin with. Without the Corporations, the genuine believers in the cause would've had a difficult time trying to attain their Independence. During the war, without the restrictions put on them by the machinations of Palpatine, they'd have won the War. But they were interfered with, so they lost their momentum and thus lost the War. The genuine believers in the Separatist cause are the victims in either case. A damned shame..
I always knew the corporate sector existed, thanks to the original Han Solo origin trilogy, but I never really knew what exactly it was. Now I know, thanks Geetsly's.
I knew this story would lead to the Corporate Sector. ;) Edit: Btw, I really like this 3:06 interpretation of the Centurion-class battlecruiser with Republic markings. People always seem to forget that the Ravager and most other Sith ships during the events of KotOR were originally Republic ships.
This is gold content. Quality. True understanding that if you want to understand that univers you have to know everything. Even them greed aholes who just never had faces in the movies.
Almost reminds me of how in Bioshock when Ryan Industries and the city council of Rapture moved to nationalize Fontaine Futuristics after Frank Fontaine was allegedly killed in a shootout which had sparked a larger feud which escalated into a full rebellion between what remained of Fontaine's followers and Ryan Industries' private security forces.
That actually kind of chopped up the empire to sound a little bit better even though if you had to pick one or the other I'd rather choose the empire because that sounds sucky to live and be owned by your boss for everything
I would of Start a group and then build underground base with a lot of machine gun face the door. Then I slowly build a secret weapon to shoot down a battleship from the sky. Then loot it. :)
Is it any wonder why the prequel Era is so baller that it gets constant lore examinations by fans because it's so uncanny to our current state of affairs
So the moral of this story is that, Republic, Confederate, or Imperial, all corporations are evil. Congratulations, Star Wars, you've figured out something we've known since 1848.
I mean the real lesson would be more of what do you see happening now. Often writers focus on topics because they have become relevant for the times. As in we are slowly becoming corpatists.
Our American Republic has not been operating out of the proper Lawful Jurisdiction since the 1860’s, you’re correct. 1850’s is when their, “U.S.A government”(British Territorial Commonwealth in the jurisdiction of the International High Seas) implemented, in a Gross Breach of Trust to the American States and People, military de-facto (legal) governments and subdued and turned our American Federal Republic, administered and constituted by our American Confederation Union The united States of America into their U.S. Territorial Democracy. Our American Confederation Union (The States of America or more well known as The united States of America), created in 1781, was created for the American States of ‘The United States of America’ (Major) Federation Union to operate within our corporate collective capacity. They’ve been mothballed by our National Representatives/Federal Employees in our American Republic since 1860s and 1930s. Now we have Corporate officers mischaracterizing and impersonating as Americans and the American People and States but are operating as Territorial State of State or residential U.S. Citizens of the United States of America (Minor) government services corporation since 1789 and as citizens/subjects/LEGAL SLAVES of the United States Municipal government. So yes you’re right, All corporations since the 1860s have been, in the most, evil and deceitful towards civilizations and the populous.
@@yojimbo3856 Corporate Feudalism, Unlawful and Illegal Usurpation of Jurisdictions and Authorities by Federal Subcontractors and Federal Civil Services. De-facto (Legal) Military British(State of State corporation franchises for ex., “the” State of Virginia, “the” State of California, “the” State of Massachusetts) Territorial Governments substituted and usurped, continuing to today, for Legal American Confederate States (State of State entities for ex., The State of New York, The State of Georgia, The State of South Carolina) apart of the American Confederation Union: The States of America. We have service corporations for the past 150+ years acting as the Lawful/Legal Governments that constituted these entities for essential governmental services with certain “delegated” powers also constituted for that purpose. Given under Good Faith and Credit, our Federal Employees/National Representatives since the 1860s have masqueraded as our lawful country: The United States of America, while operating as their “United States of America” under the false notion that our American Government, from the Confederation Union to the Federal Republic, as been operating completely and legally. The Reconstruction to the American Confederation Union: The States of America, was never started legally or honestly because the parties who were “Reconstructing” were never constituted or even in the correct Jurisdiction to perform such an action. Military Sea-Going (Sea Jurisdiction) Governments and Docks(Courts) have been instituted and usurped,trafficked, and pillaged their employers/constitutes: The American States and People !!
In function, the Hyper-Communications Cartel is closer to Disney. The Commerce Guild only provided raw materials, whereas the HCC controlled the Separatist HoloNet.
It would be nice to know how much raw material was exported from the CSA to the other companies that produced finished products such as the Kuat Drive Yards and Blastech as well as CIS loyal company's such as the Technounion
"If you live by corruption for too long, you will no longer notice its stench."- Count Dooku. This can be true for anyone in any Star Wars faction
This is true for all of life!
@@geetslys indeed, also thanks man you guys know alot if SW and your channels means alot
America in a nutshell
@@punkydamonkey989HUMANITY in a nutshell. I agree that America can be pretty bad, and our political system and late stage capitalism do seem to reward corruption. But... Try living in Russia. Or North Korea. Or China. All countries and governments are only as good as the people who run them and live in them. And ALL government, whether Capitalist or Communist/Socialist, eventually run smack into the brick wall of human nature with the force of a speeding bus. Humans are either leaders or followers. And our lack of independent thought often leaves us open to manipulation and exploitation.
@@teamdoghouse82880 couldn't say it any better. Agree!
“Lord Sidious, he, promised us peace, we only want...”
"The transmission was garbled, he promised you to be left in pieces!" - Darth Vader words to Nute Gunray in EP3 Novelization.
Love that novel-exclusive line.
**scream sound**
@@grandmasteryoda8919 is that real?
@@ben.patrick yea read it it’s the shit
"And of course Disn... wait I mean Commerce Guild."
Came here just to see if anyone else caught that.
Same
When it comes to money, beliefs take a backseat.
Unless you believe in money.
@@geetslys big brain
Not for everyone
_"Dis.... I mean the Comerce Guild-"_
I love it.
Jokes like that makes my groinmoisten ever so quickly.
I really love the whole Post Clone Wars era, it's so interesting to see where everybody ends up.
Agreed!
Star Wars has always been very critical of corporations, often mirroring things that real corporate powers have done in Earth's history. It's an aspect of the universe that I really like.
But but politics!
@@runakovacs4759 what?🤨
@@BlueTyphoon2017 people whine that modern star wars is political because it has more people than western european and north american men in prominient positions.
@@runakovacs4759 it always had people besides white men in power. Leia? Lando? Jabba? It's just that now the writing is hack and the diversity is forced, they actively like to bring down any white male original character too. Obi Wan, Luke, Han, Boba, Palpatine
@@runakovacs4759 yes, it's very annoying. Darks can make their own space opera
Star Wars Cyberpunk...Now that sounds like untapped potential.
I would watch a series based on that.
it was going to be tapped by 1313 and Underworld series on Coruscant, but both of those got scrapped when Disney bought SW, now we haven't even seen Coruscant since the buyout (except in Martez sisters episode and short Rogue One scene)
There are SOME Cyberpunk themes going on in Star Wars!
Think an animated (anime, please!) serie of Brian Daley's early Han Solo adventures! LOT of characters, planets and action, furthermore NO Jedi/Siths or Empire!😁
Nar Shaddaa always seemed a bit cyberpunky to me.
Being ruled by the Senate was a reward in itself.
In the words of Lion El'Johnson; "Loyalty is its own reward"...
Obviously.
That's Mr The Senate to you
Ik right
Long live the Empire
"Wake the frak up, Jedi. We have a Sector to burn!"
I remember the Corporate Sector Authority from the two books from the Han Solo trilogy I read. I actually wrote a novelette about a smuggler working in the Corporate Sector, it started with a water run to Rampa.
It was a great concept, also there was three books
@@jamesbryant5276 Never got around to reading the third.
The Empire after the war: We're totally the good guys here. Just sign all you're rights away and you'll see. LOL.
"MURICA FUCK YA!!" is the only that comes to mind
Can't unthink "Battlestar Galactica" when hearing "Cybot Galactica".
Snap me too
Well I believe that is the point
Well if "all of this has happened before" then why wouldn't it have happened in a galaxy far far away?
The CSA definitely preexisted the CIS but staying neutral sure made it very rich.
they were actually loyalists.
@Flying Foam TV There was an older version of the CSA that was more nominally loyal but effectively neutral. And after the war the CSA swelled up with the loylist companies and loyalist branches of CIS conglomerates.
Duchess Satine was right, money is the most dangerous weapon in the galaxy.
The phrase "The New Republic did nothing to punish the corporate sector" Implies that we could expect the New Republic to anything in the first place.
*Borsk Fey'lya has entered the chat*
@@geetslysViqi Shesh has entered the chat
Love the Disney bash in the beginning. Also Cybot Galatica really, omg
This channel has the best lore, Geetsly’s more than deserves 1 million subs
AWWW! That is flattering!
Imagine being an alien hanging out with the boys only to get your planet invaded and race enslaved by space Amazon
The Corporate Sector appeared to be the perfect location to do some series similar to Red Dead Redemption in Star Wars version if you asked me. Think about it, a band of outlaws or a gang of pirates persistingly raiding the ships of those megacorporations again and again. If Saw Garrera did not die and feel like he has no place in the Third Republic, then this will be the right place for him and his men to be. To fight against the corrupted corporations and help the peoples who live there.
It is, that's why the writers for the d6 game wrote a good bit of source material about the CSA
Thats what the Han Solo books and some comics were for/did.
A sort of"Firefly" but with FTL 😜😁
Isn't the entire Outer rime just like that, the Star Wars version of the Wild West.
@@grandmasteryoda8919 Yeah, but the rim is generally also more economically bad off, or at least that’s how it’s portrayed. The Corporate Sector would be great for like OP said, a bank robbing show or game or whatever. It’s 30,000 worlds geared towards being moneypits, ripe for Robin Hood antics by some well written space outlaw
I love that you put subtitles on every video
Ooh, yeah, something not many videos do.
i not understand english so it allow me to translate it to my language
“Rewarded” in a certain sense
He’s getting more obscure and odd. I like it. Keep it now champ
One would think that the Galactic Empire would not allow this corporations to even exist unless they were nationalized by them. The Galactic Republic’s was a corrupt mess, but the Galactic Empire was more direct in its approach with these corporations, but no doubt that they kept a close eye to them.
The Corporate sector bought a lot of the very old ships (too old to be used in he Clone War) the Republic had and many new designs the Empire rejected. Also, do you have any idea how much revenue the Corporate Sector generated fro the Empire? A region of space with thousands of sectors where the CSA could even define which species is sentient and which is not? The only reason workers had rights was that people work better if you don't treat them as slaves?
Palpatine had to finance his military somehow. Removing a lot of the Repiblic's social programs barley paid for the Clone Army. The Corporate Sector was also the source of many resources needed to build the Imperial Navy.
While the CSA was well armed to deal with criminals and local rebellions, none of their ships could stand up against a Star Destroyer. Also, a military force strong enough to keep the Empire at bay would have been unprofitable. The corporations that made up the CSA also had their headquarters within the Empire, well within the reach of the Imperial military.
Palpatine was already busy enough to control what was formerly the Republic. Adding the Corporate Sector would have stretched the Empire's forces thin in the beginning. Probably too thin.
@@grayscribe1342 Actually yeah people do work better if they don't live as slaves, my recent ancestors kept people to the detriment of society
It weakens society and you lose more by enslavement
We had steam engines for thousands of years, they weren't innovated on because
This weakening that is slavery
Yeah, that captial world was probably just below Mon Cala on his "blow up with the Death Star to assert dominance" list.
you do realize that the empire handed whole sectors over to megacorporations?
I think the empire nationalised the corporations but keeped them around . The trade federation is mentioned in solo and the commerce guild in rebels. But i suspect palpatine sold stock or gifted it to his cronies.
CSA was imagined up at the time when Judge Dread style dystopia stories and the cyberpunk genre in general was in a major rise. As it is with huge franchises with uncountable number of writers they do reflect the period they were made in.
The CIS was in a rough position to begin with. Without the Corporations, the genuine believers in the cause would've had a difficult time trying to attain their Independence. During the war, without the restrictions put on them by the machinations of Palpatine, they'd have won the War. But they were interfered with, so they lost their momentum and thus lost the War. The genuine believers in the Separatist cause are the victims in either case. A damned shame..
I agree, it's all Palpatine's fault.
They ended up winning. The galactic civil war was just a continuation of the clone wars
I always knew the corporate sector existed, thanks to the original Han Solo origin trilogy, but I never really knew what exactly it was. Now I know, thanks Geetsly's.
Wow im proud of Kuat I thought they jumped on board with the Empire. Thanks for that tidbit Geetsly! You guys are my encyclopedia!
0:16: *does a warning glance*
The corporate sector: everything an ancap could want and then some.
I knew this story would lead to the Corporate Sector. ;)
Edit: Btw, I really like this 3:06 interpretation of the Centurion-class battlecruiser with Republic markings. People always seem to forget that the Ravager and most other Sith ships during the events of KotOR were originally Republic ships.
The lesson to be learned here: EA and Activision will always win. The end.
*Laughs in all the backlash they got for the microtransactions fiasgo of Battlefront 2*
Han Solo At Star’s End really should have been the basis for the Han Solo movie.
If the separatist alliance did fight back the empire might destroy them
They already did in the second clone wars
Conclusion to crack down on corporate misdeeds you just have to kill them
It’s great that the Corporates are revisited in Andor
Senate was kinda like school group projects, "Talk a lot and do nothing.."
Brilliant vid, love hearing about more lesser known regions of the galaxy
1:12 So, they filibustered it
Who doesn’t love the CSA
I sure do love the Corporate Sector Authority
Just try Thrawn's Revenge -you're scripted to die sadly.
I liked the Tagge family picture.Especially some of the characters from the old Star Wars comics from the late 70's.
Geetysly's has expanded my esoteric knowledge pool so far that ppl at the bar at 2am that want to talk star wars get frightened
*looks at description* Let me guess, The Han Solo Adventures by Brian Daley?
They also played a part in The Lando Calrissian Adventures L. Neil Smith
@geetsly’s Finally a video about the CSA ! I would definitely enjoy more videos like this ! Keep up the good work !
This is gold content. Quality. True understanding that if you want to understand that univers you have to know everything. Even them greed aholes who just never had faces in the movies.
2:00 corpretism at it's finest
The Star Wars prequels are basically "what if Amazon attempted to overthrow the US government?"
They should make a game out of the corporate sector. Shit would smack
ANCAP gang be like:
Almost reminds me of how in Bioshock when Ryan Industries and the city council of Rapture moved to nationalize Fontaine Futuristics after Frank Fontaine was allegedly killed in a shootout which had sparked a larger feud which escalated into a full rebellion between what remained of Fontaine's followers and Ryan Industries' private security forces.
I thought the CIS was made up of Disney, Activision, and EA. Guess I was wrong
That actually kind of chopped up the empire to sound a little bit better even though if you had to pick one or the other I'd rather choose the empire because that sounds sucky to live and be owned by your boss for everything
plus, human privilige
sounds like the csa is just the starwars dnc XD
The Senate will decide your fate
I am the senate
Not yet.
It’s treason then
"How the Empire rewarded the Corporations that didn't fight back" there, fixed your video title
8:00 wait what sentient natives were those? I know the CSA expanded into Tirarii space but they weren't native to the original worlds.
I loved the Han Solo trilogy from the 80s. Fleshed out the universe
I would of Start a group and then build underground base with a lot of machine gun face the door. Then I slowly build a secret weapon to shoot down a battleship from the sky. Then loot it. :)
This is what happens without space socialism
They remind me of futuristic marines from Halo and i love it
Now time to speak about the centrality.
Corporations are the same everywhere in the GALAXY !
CSA sounds a little like another certain acronymed association
Yes, more please.
Is it any wonder why the prequel Era is so baller that it gets constant lore examinations by fans because it's so uncanny to our current state of affairs
0:16 were you about to say disney?
*Finish the word. Disney!*
Each time I am trying to figure out what planet is behind the logo at 0:45, it's weird. Some Hutt world? Naboo? Ugly cousin of Naboo? Malastar?
So the moral of this story is that, Republic, Confederate, or Imperial, all corporations are evil. Congratulations, Star Wars, you've figured out something we've known since 1848.
Star Wars is telling people who don't know. Children, for example
I mean the real lesson would be more of what do you see happening now. Often writers focus on topics because they have become relevant for the times. As in we are slowly becoming corpatists.
Our American Republic has not been operating out of the proper Lawful Jurisdiction since the 1860’s, you’re correct. 1850’s is when their, “U.S.A government”(British Territorial Commonwealth in the jurisdiction of the International High Seas) implemented, in a Gross Breach of Trust to the American States and People, military de-facto (legal) governments and subdued and turned our American Federal Republic, administered and constituted by our American Confederation Union The united States of America into their U.S. Territorial Democracy. Our American Confederation Union (The States of America or more well known as The united States of America), created in 1781, was created for the American States of ‘The United States of America’ (Major) Federation Union to operate within our corporate collective capacity. They’ve been mothballed by our National Representatives/Federal Employees in our American Republic since 1860s and 1930s. Now we have Corporate officers mischaracterizing and impersonating as Americans and the American People and States but are operating as Territorial State of State or residential U.S. Citizens of the United States of America (Minor) government services corporation since 1789 and as citizens/subjects/LEGAL SLAVES of the United States Municipal government. So yes you’re right, All corporations since the 1860s have been, in the most, evil and deceitful towards civilizations and the populous.
@@U.S.A.IS.A.BRIT.PROTECTATE How about simplifying down your word salad paragraph for the people in the back you loon?
@@yojimbo3856 Corporate Feudalism, Unlawful and Illegal Usurpation of Jurisdictions and Authorities by Federal Subcontractors and Federal Civil Services. De-facto (Legal) Military British(State of State corporation franchises for ex., “the” State of Virginia, “the” State of California, “the” State of Massachusetts) Territorial Governments substituted and usurped, continuing to today, for Legal American Confederate States (State of State entities for ex., The State of New York, The State of Georgia, The State of South Carolina) apart of the American Confederation Union: The States of America. We have service corporations for the past 150+ years acting as the Lawful/Legal Governments that constituted these entities for essential governmental services with certain “delegated” powers also constituted for that purpose. Given under Good Faith and Credit, our Federal Employees/National Representatives since the 1860s have masqueraded as our lawful country: The United States of America, while operating as their “United States of America” under the false notion that our American Government, from the Confederation Union to the Federal Republic, as been operating completely and legally. The Reconstruction to the American Confederation Union: The States of America, was never started legally or honestly because the parties who were “Reconstructing” were never constituted or even in the correct Jurisdiction to perform such an action. Military Sea-Going (Sea Jurisdiction) Governments and Docks(Courts) have been instituted and usurped,trafficked, and pillaged their employers/constitutes: The American States and People !!
4:14 Triforce!
based dengist palpatine path ?
Could you guys next time provide a time stamp for the part of the video mentioned in the title? Thanks 🙂
In function, the Hyper-Communications Cartel is closer to Disney. The Commerce Guild only provided raw materials, whereas the HCC controlled the Separatist HoloNet.
Can u talk about starkiller there every little i know about him and was hoping u could do a video about him
It would be nice to know how much raw material was exported from the CSA to the other companies that produced finished products such as the Kuat Drive Yards and Blastech as well as CIS loyal company's such as the Technounion
With great power comes great corruption
anyone else think of judge dread when they see esboss officers?
Kuat i believe was part of the trade federation until eriadu rather than the tecno union
Space Bezos be like:
So what you’re saying is we can have a cyberpunk Star Wars show/movie.
Art at 4:02 link?
Can you do a video on the Lost Tribe of The Sith?
Exactly what a subsection?
Remember government is the largest monopoly
CSA sounds like a Libertarian paradise.
I played as the Corporate Sector in Empire At War. I have never seen a more despicable hive of scum and villainy...
good one
almost got me
This is rlly interesting
🤔 I wonder which would be the lesser of two evils? Hutt Space or The corporate sector?
Right's violations to give the sith a cause for concern? Oh god
what would the Rebel Alliance do to the CSA?
Watching this after andor
This is Canon for me!
Star wars basically calling out capitalism and liberal democracy's inability to regulate it lol.
who said economic politics was boring?
CSA: Real Life USA, I mean huh?
What happened to the czerka corporation?
Real world is also getting destroyed by corporations
Let's hope the Yuuzhan Vong War purged the galaxy of most of its sins...
actually they avoided the yuuzhan vong war...by closing off borders and refusing to help
@@eren34558 And then they showed up regardless, am I right?