Why the Entire Galaxy HATED Neimoidians After the Clone Wars (They Tried to Become a Diff Species!)
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0:00 Intro
0:46 Trade Federation Ties
3:34 Population Crash
6:43 Reject Neimoidia, Return to Duro
9:02 Outro - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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The ending was unexpectedly wholesome.
A nemoidian trying to overcome their natural cowardice to pull off the brave explorer act, eventually succeeding, then truly adopting that culture, and earning the respect of their duros peers, sounds like a nice character arc to me.
Hell yeah
Reject Neimodian, Return to Duros
@@CHADCONTEXT basically
Agreed.
@@CHADCONTEXT stonks
Nemoidians weren't exactly trying to be likable you know, their greed and selfishness weren't exactly sought after traits in friends and didn't earn them much love. But the innocent grubs did not deserve what they got, no infacts deserve to suffer not being able to grow and leave Nemoidia.
One less grub is one less bug.
Their Duros cousins knew that. They actually cared for their young.
“Neimoidian culture causes galactic problems, how can we solve this?”
“Kill the younglings?”
“That sounds…extre-“
Sidious: “Give that man a raise!”
They deserved it…
For a race choosing it’s own poison, one would think they could never choose on stronger than mankind’s
Ironically they did…
I think everybody's got a false sense of who the nemoidians were. The new Star Wars book Brotherhood is set on their home world. Follows Kenobi's interactions with them at the beginning of the Clone Wars and it's an excellent book and I'll give you a new appreciation for who they are
The remaining Nemoidians should've just joined the Rebellion or a Bounty Hunter clan. They may've gotten sideways looks, but the Rebels weren't xenophobic. Besides, in the neutral world of the bounty hunter, anyone can kill anyone for the right reward amount
Well the rebels were idiots, remember the Bothan spies
This is definitely a valid point.
The thing is that Neimoidians aren't fighters. From birth they're basically set up to fear death and conflict.
Thing is while they can ruthlessly strategize and plan like a cold, calculating bounty hunter can they do alot of their own fighting, catching and killing like one. Even or perhaps especially alone an usually in small groups the way majority of bounty hunters often did
@@robertagu5533 Well, perhaps they could act like eyes in the sky/recon and help them out with a contract if the target got away
I felt bad for Gunray. By the end of the war, he felt like he had completely lost control of the situation and just wanted peace for him and his people. He didn't even beg for mercy, really. He specifically says "The war is over! Lord Sidious promised us peace. We only want-" He wasn't begging for himself, but all the separatists.
The Clone Wars era is populated on both sides with useful idiots. But Gunray is the most useful idiot of them all.
Played from the start. His invasion of Naboo was the start of the Palpatine’s rise to power.
he deserved what he got
Yeah but I think Anakin was also still mad at him for nearly killing him and especially Padme on Geonosis just a couple years prior, lol
@@haydendraycott7897 I would say that Count Dooku and Poggle the lesser were more responsible for Genosis
I don’t, he jumped in full throttle without considering the consequences. Feel bad for the nemodians who suffered because of gunray but gunray himself not a silver of sympathy
I know Trade Federation was bad, but:
- Genocide, by burning equivalent of kindergartens with babies inside
- Bans from going to planets
- Being stigmatized as a plague carrier when you're not
- Having your company, jobs for which your species worked millennia for taken away.
- Being so hated by your appearance and culture, you try to adapt to a less controversial and more liked culture in the Galaxy of relative species and even then get hate for it being a poser.
I understand if members of the Trade Federation were replaced with ''nicer'' members of their species and with war criminals being punished, but what happened to them was simply terrible.
It is also worth mentioning that the reason why the Trade Federation associated with the CIS was all Palpatine manipulation and if they refused they would be on a hit list of a Sith.
Also, also, look at their scared faces. They look so cute and scared!
Can't really blame the clones for trying to genocide the nemoidians, they were just returning the favor so to speak, and didn't even finish the job.
The rest was just awful though, especially considering how much the core worlds promoted the seperatist cause.
You reap what you sow, and it's not as if the Neimoidians didn't do the same to other planets (attempted genocides on Kamino, Maridun, etc).
Quite a few of their members were other scumbags. But the entire species didn't deserve the massive amounts of racist bull crap. That they had to endure. And I don't know if this actually happened, but I could just picture this. A few Neimoidians walk into a bar. After the Clone Wars is over and the empire is made. And the bartender says. We don't serve you folk here. Go somewhere else or something along those lines. What I'm trying to say here is. Yes, quite a few of them are pretty scummy and underhanded. But not all of them are. As they say, one rotten apple spoils the barrel.
@@sharksam8583 That's not entirely true, pretty much all Neimoidians were either bigshots in the Trade Federation, or worked for them in some way (like Nute Gunray's bodyguards). When Neimoidians are born, multiple grubs hatch at once, and they survive by hoarding food and stealing from their newborn siblings, and only the one that survives gets to grow up. So their biology literally filters out any members of the species who aren't greedy scumbags.
There weren't things like a Neimoidian working class, average Neimoidian civilians who weren't associated with the Trade Federation etc, because Neimoidian society was so dominated by the pursuit of wealth that basically the entire race was living off of other species' slave labor.
@@andresmullerbeck2427 Genocide is never justified, the clones and Jedi who participated in that heinous war crime deserve no sympathy.
I may not be a fan of them, but destroying their grub hatcheries is really cruel. Hardcore war crimes lmao
Nipping future problems in the bud is just logical.
@@MandoMTL It's genocidal and evil. No matter what you think of the greedy Neimodians, they never took things that far.
@@dukethighwalker6839 sure they did. Look into grievious backstory. They were funding his people being enslaved and killed. Don't make galactic power moves then complain about the consequences.
@@dukethighwalker6839 And?
@@MandoMTL
Killing people for what they *might* do is absolutely evil
The Republic really did fall far before the clonewars even began, and what they did to the Neimoidians goes to show just how far they were from what they should have been.
The new novel “Brotherhood” really changed my entire view of the Nemoidian species. They deserved so much better. Especially Ruug Quarnom.
I’ll have to check that out. Thx!
*"The Intestinal Revenge of Bars Barka"* sounds like a story about a guy who went back to the mexican food restaurant after the food made him sick and made a mess on the floor
When a species that motivates its people to put greed and selfish above others traits it becomes to easy to hate on such a hated species, it didn’t help the fact that Trade Federation and the Confederacy was led by them and led to a lot of suffering and death by them.
It's also harder to sympathize as they were so easily tricked by Palpatines false promises.
@@eddapultstab2078
Nute Gunray is the Peter principle in action-dude was slimey enough to make it to the top and dumb enough to eat Palpy’s clear b.s. by the spoonful despite being backstabbed with the Naboo crisis
@@eddapultstab2078 And inadvertently helped Palpatine and other corrupt monsters rise to power in the Empire which also led to even more irreversible damage like Grand Moff Tarkin's deliberate destruction of Alderaan just to demonstrate the Death Star's power as a petty show of force and his ego since it was part of his "Tarkin Doctrine".
To add insult to injury, while the Death Star was designed by Geonosians, NOT the Nemoidians, the fact that they were associated with member species and allies that led to that much devastation and a lot of their technology still contributed to the development of the tools of destruction used by the Empire is enough motivation and the perfect excuse for Palpatine to use as a way to get rid of them when they outlived their usefulness or reason enough for Rebels and/or New Republic members to deem them untrustworthy.
It's a poetic form of karma, that those selfish Nemoidians who caused so much suffering deserved by suffering under the an equally selfish regime of violent and egoistic Imperials controlled by the evil Sith that they helped put into power because of their own greed. (In Palpatine's own words it's 'ironic').
Nevertheless it's also very hypocritical when imposed on the ENTIRE species especially those who have no idea what is going on and have not been indoctrinated like the others. There is still a fine line until something is considered overkill.
@@chewyuanqiang yes it is a very tragic fate for them, however, their very culture is literally built on backstabbing as even from being born they are purposefully set in a food poor environment where they basically have to screw each other over in order to survive creating a caste of cowardly bullies that plot their way to the top. It's still immoral, but they are definitely far from innocent to give similar sympathy like alderan.
@@eddapultstab2078 True. I didn't say that they deserve as much sympathy. Pretty much the destruction and the deaths of all the innocents on Alderaan and many other victims taken by the Empire were partly their fault. Just saying that not every bystander deserves the same fate and there's some pity that automatically grows from going overkill even when they deserve it.
I want there to be a scene where a drunken Nemoidian and Duro have a heart-to-heart and reconcile their species’ animosities.
When I was a kid, I loved Neimoidians, and today they are still one of my all time favorite Star Wars races. Going beyond their fantastic visual design, the incredible detail given to their species following their introduction made them feel truly alien in a way few Star Wars species ever did.
Read the new Star Wars book brotherhood, it focuses on their home planet and their cultures. It's a great story about Kenobi's dealings with them at the beginning of the war
@@Wyomingchief I'll put that one on my list, thanks.
@@TheBlackBrickStudios good deal, you definitely won't be disappointed
I still remember the fear and disgust I felt seeing them for the first time in phantom menace. There was something about them that reminded me of an xfiles monster.
"Intestinal Revenge of Bars Barka" sounds like a low budget horror movie from the early 1980's
By the time of the Yuuzhan Vong war, Nemoidians were pretty much redeemed as evidenced by Anni Capstan, a member of the Rogue Squadron
May her sacrifice be always remembered.
Yuuzhan Vong war? No such thing.
Ah, so you prefer living in a world where things ended at the Hand of Thrawn duology and Survivor's Quest. That's cool.
@@zephyr8072 lmao what? You must be new here
@@ryangordon133 Stay salty.
Weren't the Geonosians actively genocided by the Empire? Just trying to think of the fate of other major Separatist non-human species, like the Muuns up in the Pentastar region. Trandoshans, Quarren, (Sullustans?)
They were
Quarren and Sullustans were major players in the rebel alliance.
Trandoshans were quick to allign with the new Empire, only for a reason:
Killing and Slave the Wookies.
Everybody supported the extermination of Geonosians, tho. Those were amongst the most barbaric and horrifying species in the galaxy. So i guess no one actually considered that a bad deed.
@@SidorovichGaming the rebels did when they found out
With the Duros being a cousin of the Nemoidians, I wonder if they suffered any discrimination from being mistaken as the latter, especially the green-skinned Duros.
They burned Grub Hatcheries!? It looks like the Empire's genociding ways started a bit before it was official called an Empire. I'm guessing there either wasn't a Jedi in charge of the battle or if there was then it was a dick Jedi like Mundi or someone who would totally approve of this plan.
I can just imagine Palpatine planning out which planets he wants to completely destroy and subject gate during the war, and which ones he wants to trick into rejoining the Republic because they think they're the good guys, and he has an entire digraph of all the Jedi and leading Republic Officers and where they fall on how willing they would be to do something.
Palpatine: Okay, let's see, I want to convince Ondaron to rejoin the Republic, so I'll need to send some of our best and kindest leaders to make them think we're not all bad, so I guess Kenobi, Skywalker, and Tano, there the poster Jedi for the Republic being the good guys. Now onto Nemodia, I don't really care about them and really want to destroy their entire planet so I can send one of my more insane leaders to completely annihilate them without a second thought. Mas Amedda, go get Tarkin on the comlink I've got a new job for him.
Well, this development is nothing new, it's not the first time the Republic has committed planetary genocide after all, have you ever heard of the Battle of Kromus? It's not a story that the Jedi would tell you... Good thing there are no Nuremberg Trials in the Star Wars Galaxy because otherwise all the factions would have to answer a lot of questions there.
I don’t know how you came to the conclusion that mundi would agree with this act.
@@Some_Deist Because as Geetsly explained in a previous video on Mundi a year ago, the dude was actually kind of a psychopath who was one of the Jedi that actually deserved to be gunned down during Order 66.
@@zexalbrony4799
He was in fact not a psychopath and is misunderstood by Star Wars Fans who lack critical thinking. (You know the same one who were bitching about reva knowing anakin until episode 5). Can you point out what psychopathic things he did ?
@@Some_Deist Sure. I can use several of the quotes and examples Geetsly presented in his video on why Mundi was a cold-hearted man who deserved his fate during Order 66.
"He was the embodiment of the failures of the Jedi Council. Like Frook Lama before him, Mundi embarrassed the detached, dogmatic, and incredibly judgmental proversion of the Light Side that the Jedi Order often strayed towards and it reflected both in his actions and his worldview. The worst effect of this mindset and the reason why we think Mundi is so terrible is how detached this made him."
"Ki-Aid-Mundi either didn't allow himself to feel any emotion at all or he denied that he felt them, neither of which were a good thing. While we know of no cases in which this made him overtly cruel, we do know of plenty in which made his actions tone death at best and morally questionable at worst. When his whole family was murdered during the Clone Wars he passed it off with a shrug, when Anakin was mourning the supposed death of his master Mundi's advice was that he just move on, and when his friends and comrades died of terrible wounds they received in battle he passed it off as just will of the Force."
"Among those murdered were Ki-Aid-Mundi's entire family. Now, most people would be pretty dispondiet at losing one member of their family, never mind twelve. Even Jedi mourned the deaths of those who were close to them. But Ki-Aid-Mundi, nah, he just didn't care. In fact, the reason we know about his family dying in this battle is because he told the story to Anakin Skywalker after the Battle of Jaibim, and do you know the point in him tell this was it was that Anakin shouldn't mourn the death of so many of his friends because he had just lost his entire family and since he wasn't crying about it niether should he."
I wonder if any Neimoidians tried to join the Rebel Alliance? Did they succeed in entering?
That is a tough question. After all, The Rebels were much more tolerant of aliens than The Empire, but The Nemoidians were raised to be very greedy people, and a resource-stricken Rebellion couldn't afford to have a huge chunk of their funding be hoarded up by greedy people. Unless The Nemoidians changed their attitude towards wealth management, and just became a lot less greedy, I don't think that the resource-stricken Rebellion would allow them in high places. Unless, they did some subterfuge of The Empire in their Core territories (where their homeworld(s) were) in order to keep them from giving The Rebellion too much heat early on, in which case, maybe?
The Alliance had no use for Neimoidians. They're cowards, they're not fit to be -terrorists- "freedom fighters".
@@gehrigstory6674 Some did indeed join, but the thing is that the Rebels went out of their way to avoid being tied with the Separatists, so they were…cautious about bringing them in.
@@BlackIce3190 didn’t the remnants of the CIS also joined the rebels?
I'm sure some joined, it's just that we don't see them much apart from a few artworks, both official and fanmade.
"The Intestinal revenge of Bars Barkar" .... I dont know why that made me laugh so hard
"The intestinal revenge of Baz Bakka."
Known here on Earth as "Montezuma's Revenge."
Reminds me of The Corpus a bit, to say simply. Neat stuffs
"We are the Golden Hand that Grasps. We Are Desire. We Are Corpus....."
The recent book brotherhood focused on a mission to Cato Neimoidia, the author revealed one of the tasks he was given when he outlined what he wanted to do was “give the Neimoidians an actual culture” which I think is very funny
Cringeworthy phrasing ngl, but they meant in canon. As the brotherhood book is kind of a canonical replacement for some stuff from Labyrinth of Evil.
@@somethingwithultra7231 that’s a bit of a simplification. Yes, Brotherhood was advertised as the canon version of “that business on Cato neimoidia”, which in legends was labyrinth. However, the author has spoke at length about his love for labyrinth and confirmed he went out of his way to ensure nothing in his book outright contradicted the version of “that business” seen in labyrinth. As he put it, both can be canon in your mind
@@captainrexofthe501st9 That is actually really really cool then. I didn't know that!
So, Brotherhood can fit in Legends in some way?
@@michaelandreipalon359 I like that
"the intestinal revenge of baz bakka" lmao
Neimoidians were used by Palpatine like everyone else. They were promised peace by the Lord Sidius. Once their usefulness ran out, they were nothing but lose ends.
So they were then exterminated and their names were slandered. Typical.
No, you misunderstood-the message was garbled, Sidious said he’d leave them in *pieces*
While that is true, alot of what the Neimodians and trade federation did ultimately wasn't just Palpatine's one-sided game. It's difficult to say, but I doubt that they had the best of intentions with the CIS movement as well.
They got the peace they were promised.
They failed to ask what SORT of peace.
Because nothing is more peaceful than the grave.
Star Wars: BROTHERHOOD
The new Star Wars novel that follows Kenobi and Anakin right after episode 2. It is primarily set on the home world of the Nemoidians. It's an excellent book and you really get a chance to learn more about them and to be honest I have a newfound respect for them. They weren't really coward, they were just extremely intellectual when it came to everything. They balanced it as a risk reward transaction and that's how they based most of their decisions. They were actually some really great warriors and I would highly recommend the book. It'll give you a whole new outlook on the species
A story about the exploration mission on how the Duros got to Neimodia would be cool.
I think their was a neimoidian guard that helped obi-wan on cato neimoidia escape imprisonment when he was framed for a crime by ventress.
Interesting. Didn’t know the neimodians and duros were related. But it makes sense too
I haven't watched the video yet but I have a theory.
They helped start a war that lead to the creation if the empire.
"Because Nemoidians weren't in the original trilogy" would've been a pretty short video I suppose
I actually would like to see more Nemoidian related content. Specifically their achievements outside of the Trade Federation/commerce. In The Old Republic MMO, for example, many of the Nemoidians you come across are brilliant scientists.
You had me at intestinal revenge XD
I love the neimodians, they are my favorite species in star wars! The character arc their kind goes through is wholesome!
Finally a video that's not 2 years old. Canarynose here
One day, I’d like you to do a video series on the fate and state of Star Wars races and cultures by the time of the Legacy Era or at least during the New Republic Era.
I was glad to hear that a large number of Neimoidians escape after the clone wars into the Unknown Regions. Not allied with the Chiss, but not on their bad side either.
Being the scapegoat for causing the largest war in living memory really isn't good PR. ^^
Yeah, it tends to lead more bad things; it’s a good thing a little angry mustache man never showed up in the Star Wars universe…
I personally, love the nemoidians and everything about them. They have always been my favorite in star wars.
Y'all should a vid on Star Wars diseases.
What the hell is "Intestinal Revenge"??
I love these videos, I'm not even a big star wars fan but for some reason I cant stop watching these
They were just duros but worse in every way
@Mattguy I was about to say something of the same vein, but you said it before I did...
Not to mention spineless
Didn't George Lucas base Nute Gunray off of Newt Gingrich, I hear?
They didnt deserve that genocide tho
@@gehrigstory6674 Ronald Reagan.
Reagan = Raygun = Gunray
The grubs didn't deserve what happened to them. 😢
So, basically the entire galaxy when Starship Troopers on the Neimoidian younglings
Was not expecting that, but it makes sense…
If the Trade Federation ever crossed galaxies and entered the world of Star Trek, I wonder how it would get along with the Ferengi Alliance.
Trade Federation would subjugate the Ferengi Alliance, who would have pretty much no chance against even B1 armies armed with those stupid whips.
Not to mention, their Navy was far superior.
Edit: Starfleet may intervene though given their proximity to Ferengi territory and insatiable thirst for expansion.
The Ferengi alliance would become a fiefdom. They're miniscule and near-insignificant comparatively in scale.
Neimoidians reminds me of corporate chair holders.
Or NAFTA ratifiers. I heard that Lucas based Gunray off of Newt Gingrich, somewhere. Is that true?
@@gehrigstory6674 mitch mcconnel could be the model too haha
@@421less1
Mi’tch Micconell: A Neimoidian Story
@@421less1 I think Mitch McConnell would be Borsk Fey'lya's spouse. After all, Bothans are dog-like creatures, so a female Fey'lya would fit Mitch "The B$%tch" McConnell quite well. I wouldn't even root for him when The Yuuzhan Vong invade Coruscant, and both Fey'lyas go down with The New Republic government.
@@warlordofbritannia Mi'tch Mconyell, A Bothan Story.
The new book, Brotherhood, shows how many of them felt they were unfairly judged because of a few bad apples
Exactly and they made a really good point. And if you read the book They're not really coward they just are very analytical and weigh everything in a risk reward type of situation. Excellent book
The Intestinal Revenge of _anything_ is a wonderful name for a disease
Interesting video mate. Please do a more indepth video on The Trade Federation. It's one part of Star Wars that has fascinated me and I've always wanted to learn more about.
"He resisted but caved in that same day"
The "intestinal revenge" sounds like a bad day at space taco bell
Not much of my headspace has given thought to the subject matter at hand so the best I can do is give you and the team that helps you a thumbs up. Anyhow have a good day and most importantly stay free
crazy thing to me is how over only 10,000 years duros colonists evolved into neomoidiens. must have been some crazy sci fi evolution speeding up thing happening, cus thats an insanely short time to change that much.
It's not really that strange; evolution is driven primarily by environmental factors. Natural Selection can cause a species to undergo radical changes within a relatively short span of time, if the species is under enough environmental stress.
If their new environment was significantly different from the one they evolved in, then that would place a lot of environmental stress on the species as a whole; this would trigger natural selection. A single species can differentiate into two different species within a few thousand years under the right conditions; ten thousand years is ample time for the Duros explorers to undergo enough adaptation for the species to begin to look radically different than they were to begin with.
I found interesting so much backstory and culture this is what made me fall in love with Star Wars (Lightsabers and Bikini Leia too). But is interesting to see how a new specie would develop from harsh conditions in a new habitat
Neimoidians: *exist*
Me: *blaster shots, reload, blaster shots resume*
Geez the republic was horrible against the neimodians
Can you do a video on the moncalamari shipyards
This just proves to me, that Shev was a master of four d chess. An very good at finding natural targets for others to rage at. Brilliant evil master mind, who sadly was just that.
the intestinal revenge of bars baka....thats a name of fear lol
i love describing post-war genocide as an "insult to injury". Thank you that was beautiful
no idea they were related to the Duros!
The Galaxy: Neimoidians are the biggest scumbags around.
Humans: Hold my juma juice.
Cheers
I mean...when your whole society and culture is centered around you brutally killing your fellow Neimodians as infants while overseen by adult Neimodians, and that makes near all of you into ruthless, selfish uncaring individuals, it's hard for everyone else not to be wary of them. 😅
Gunray has always been my fav character, I was so sad when he was killed
uploads from the front and geetsleys at the same time after a long night of drinking with the boys, yes please
Fun Fact: Real life Neimoidians exist, one of them is called Bobby Cottick.
“Intestinal Revenge” wasn’t the Nemoidians. Taco Bell did that.
Lol Neimoidians had their own Lost Cause myth.
Naboo was about tRaDe rIgHts!!1!
I wonder if the Nemoidians has a seat in the New Republic Senate?
I didn't want to be rude on last video but idk if different mic or something but the narrator voice in that last video sounded different. Also it's interesting to know what happened to the Neimondians after the clone wars never really thought of aside from assuming they're still around just not as popular not just of films but empire being rasict. Also now I'm curious to know what happened to Jar Jar though I think you made a video on that I think I don't remember.
Didn’t COMPNOR stand for Commission for the Preservation of the New Order?
Stories like this give me heavy Warhammer 40k vibes
I am wondering what happened to the pike syndikats during the empire
Neimodians will say they got barred from 192 planets but never why
My thoughts are that individual members of the species deserved it, but not the species as a whole.
Yes, I agree with this. quite a few of them were complete and utter scumbags. But there were probably quite. Nice people in that species.
Here's a fun fact. About 30 years after Yavin, there was actually a Neimoidian pilot who fought alongside a group of Jedi. They were all though influenced by an insectoid species, but before that she must have served the Galactic Alliance.
My memory is a bit fuzzy, but wasn’t there a Neimoidian Rogue Squadron-Pilot in Legends at some point? Must have been in the New Jedi Order-Series.
The idea of Nemoidian city's being in a hammock still confuses and amazes me
Can you do a video on how shipyards are a true super power in the universe
Could do a video on nemodians warriors that appear on in comics but also the revenge of the sith game for ps2, Xbox, and game cube that also on ps3 digital store only.
Yes
I'll abstain from the, err, proceedings. Sure, there are a lot of Neimoidian scum, but I'm pretty there's a sizable amount of good people in their species... it's just that we never met the lot.
Still, they sure are one of the most interesting species in Star Wars as a whole. Even moreso with the lore expanded upon in this video... redemption and remembering the past are always pivotal elements in Star Wars as a whole.
I kind of agree with this. The racism or speciesism. No matter how you put it. is In my opinion is understandable, but not necessarily deserved. Yes, quite a lot of them did some underhanded stuff. But to an extent, they were manipulated into doing it. And like you said earlier. There are probably quite a few good people in that species. As they say, one rotten apple spoils the barrel.
Kind of Ironic that Neimoidians were given Asian sounding accents, even one being played by George Takai in the Clone Wars. Japanese Americans were treated badly because of the actions of Japan, George and his family were intered in a camp during WW2!
George Takai was in Star Trek.
And Neimoidians were being discriminated against for being plague carriers, much like Chinese and Koreans are today after 2020
Okay, given the stuff that happened to the Nemoidians in Legends due to racial bias by humans as well as the stereotypes most Republic citizens including Jedi believed in at the start of the war, I can understand why many people say the Republic not only deserved to fall, but also fell long before Order 66. However, a key message in Star Wars is that redemption is possible for anybody who seeks it. Sure, there probably has to be a point of no return which the Republic crossed either at the start of the Jedi Purge or during the Outer Rim Sieges, but to say the Republic even during most of the Clone Wars was irredeemable seems to be an extreme point of view. Like it or not, there is one major perk to having a galaxy-wide government instead of multiple governments like in Star Wars Legacy. No wars between superpowers. As we’ve seen in Star Wars if you have the money and resources, you can create super weapons, quite like nations do with nuclear weapons in our world. We even see both the Separatists and the Republic working on the Death Star while the Separatists also have the Malevolence, the Defoiliator, and the Blue Shadow Virus. The Republic on the other hand makes an electro-proton bomb. Naturally between superpowers, tensions will be high and a tense era of peace can easily turn into a galactic war. Now if nations have a common enemy or have dealt with one together, then they are less likely to be hostile to each other, like the governments in Star Wars Legacy. However in the case of the Prequel era, there wasn’t much of a common enemy for both the Republic and the Separatists. They both hated corruption, but saw it in different forms. The Republic saw it in the form of the alien-led mega corporations with giant droid armies in the Outer Rim. The Separatists saw it in the form of the rich Core Worlds who made sure money went to them while the Outer Rim would get little if anything in return. At least in Star Wars Legacy, the governments can agree that the Sith are their most dangerous foe that they must work together against. Now this shows how as soon as secession occurred, things were doomed even without the machinations of the Sith to lead to a horrible war and with little cooperation between the Republic and the Separatists. Now for the actual redemption part. If the Separatist senators never seceded in the first place, they could have easily avoided worrying about Palpatine. As we should recall, Palpatine should have left office when the Separatist Crisis occurred. The Republic got scared into keeping the chancellor in power for longer than usual due to the situation. Now of course Palpatine would have some backup plan of how to cause a political crisis, but at the very least this would keep the Republic together. While Palpatine was seen as a nice chancellor and thus his endorsement for a new chancellor would receive a lot of support, the worlds who would have formed the Separatists along with several planets that became neutral in the war would want to vote in somebody who would change things for the better. If they were frustrated enough to secede or not help the Republic in the war, these planets would at least try to get somebody new into office. Popular choices would include Padme Amidala, Bail Organa, and Mina Bonteri. Now things wouldn’t magically get better if any of them won, especially if Palpatine was still playing his games. However as Padme and Mina came close to establishing a peace treaty in the war and Bail was able to create a rebellion that overthrow Palpatine, I can imagine they would make better progress than any chancellor before them. The key thing about change is that it takes time to happen. Yes, this era of the Republic was already around for a thousand years, so you would expect something to be done, but the United States which has been around for hundreds of years, fought both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, as well as have one of the most diverse populations in the world is still corrupt and full of inequality worse than many of its allies. Social change is very slow. Now with Palpatine and Dooku running interference, they can cause trouble for the Republic to make it become the Empire, but any changes made at all would have quite the positive effect on the Outer Rim. We always get excited whenever we hear a bill on something like gun control or on universal healthcare might get passed. Even though the final decade of the Galactic Republic is its darkest, I see that the Republic still had a chance to survive. While Palpatine’s plans mostly took advantage of the political situation made by the Republic, he still threw a wrench during a time period that could have been a turning point. While many Outer Rim worlds wanted change, it took Dooku to ignite them into a government. It was Dooku that got the Separatist Senate to actually work with the Separatist Council. While the Republic did back itself into a corner leading up to the Clone Wars, that wasn’t to say all ways out were blocked. Sure, if in a timeline where Palpatine was exposed and defeated by the Jedi, the point of the Separatists would be proven right and likely would lead to many planets seceding out of fear of how close the Republic came to becoming an empire, but such a close shave would motivate those left to vote in somebody like Padme or her allies into power to reform the Republic. It would take years, maybe even decades for such reforms to occur, but eventually the Republic would be able to become a proud democracy to be a part of.
Ok, star wars desease's names are hilarious
Yes.
And here was me thinking the Empire just straight-up wiped them out after the Clone Wars 🤔
Along with how Jar Jar speaks having the Nemoidians talk like someone who's from Japan, but has learned English as second language, is so ridiculous even as a kid I knew that the way Jar Jar and the Nemoidians talked were clearly based on offensive stereotypes, especially Jar Jar. I can't believe nobody went to Lucas and said you know the way they talk is very offensive right somebody dropped the ball on that big time 😆
They’re OK businessmen.
They’re not ferengi or anything but they’re alright I guess.
I don’t feel bad for Gunray at the end of episode 3, remember that he tried to have Padme assassinated.
So a Twi’lek trains a Bith, who trains a Muun who trains a human who stars an empire that doesn’t like aliens?
Neimoidians are kinda cute :)
is it possible that some of the sith species survived? like either in stasis chambers or retreating out of the galaxy? or even some sort of cloning program that would have started say from old sith dna?
I wonder if the other separatist planets received the same treatment like the Muuns and Techno Union
Renowned for their cowardice? That's fresh.
How did they fare during the Yuuzhan Vong War?
I would think the Nemodians would join the Rebel Alliance and the New Republic which would protect them from some level of discrimination. They would have been important members of the New Republic economically.
What happened to your Star Wars battlefront intro?
As ye sow, so shall ye reap
Dis is impawsibow!