Pressure Filter and Shower Filter for a Koi Pond - A Match Made in Heaven?
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This video showcases a combination of filters which is strangely very underused for filtering ponds - however the pressure filter offering UV and mechanical filtration followed by a shower filter offering vast capacity for biological filtration is an excellent way to ensure low maintenance, highly effective filtration.
Even a cheap pressure filter and a DIY shower filter will do a great job of cleaning water and as a pressure filter takes care of the mechanical filtration it allows the full shower to be filled with suitable media (and has almost zero maintenance).
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This video showcases a combination of filters which is strangely very underused for filtering ponds - however the pressure filter offering UV and mechanical filtration followed by a shower filter offering vast capacity for biological filtration is an excellent way to ensure low maintenance, highly effective filtration.
Even a cheap pressure filter and a DIY shower filter will do a great job of cleaning water and as a pressure filter takes care of the mechanical filtration it allows the full shower to be filled with suitable media (and has almost zero maintenance).
If you've enjoyed this video please check out the playlists on my channel for hundreds more - on a variety of subjects.
Feel free to share or link any of my videos on facebook, twitter, forums etc. for the benefit of anyone you think may also enjoy watching.
See you next time.
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yes that is what I am I am saying you have no chance in filtering that pond with that prove me wrong I hope
This set up is just to demonstrate that a pressure filter can be used with a shower filter to make a great combination filter - the main filter has not been built yet (previous video I shot here explained about that one)
ok I will have a look mate I thought you had dug the thing in to use on the lake thanks . it must be the size of a shipping container this filter
At nearly £1500 for the setup and media for the shower, I think I would invest a little bit more and opt for a drum filter, but each to their own
Martyn Koi this is a particularly expensive pressure filter and shower filter but this video is more about introducing the concept of marrying a pressure filter to a shower. I mention that you could make a DIY filter and use a different pressure filter a couple of times in video as there are numerous options. Drums are awesome and clean the water mechanically better than anything else out there for sure.
Finally a pond channel that I really like.
I'm glad you find the videos useful - most of the pond videos are old as I used to install ponds many years ago and now work online concentrating more on aquarium filtration.
You are a clever guy Richard.... and you are kind enough to share your cleverness with us... many thanks.
I'm glad you find the videos useful - thanks for watching.
I'm not missing your days in the shop so much now. I really like what you are doing, very interesting. Have to say though If I had your pond, I'd be converting it to a natural swim pond at 15ft deep, the fish can just get over it lol!
When I build the big filter and hopefully clear the pond water then it could be swimming time, lol
I Love This Channel-I have been following him for 2 years at least and when he ventured off into the wild (bushcraft) I cringed but he finally came back to his senses and is back on track-Ive always liked and supported him----Thank You so Much man and My Best to You and Yours
I can't promise that there won't be any more bushcraft / fishing videos as I just make videos about anything which I'm involved with which will have educational content (as I get most satisfaction from any video with useful information in) but the filter series for aquariums will keep me busy for a very long time. I already have another 7 or 8 shot which need editing plus another 3 filters have arrived in the last few days to make videos on.
I love making the aquatic videos since they directly help fish all over the world.
Great filter by the looks of it. That gunnera will help cover it up and blend it in when it gets going later in the year
Yes there is a crazy amount of plants which grow around the pond so in a few months I'll be cutting them back to get access to the filter, lol
Hi Richard, after spending days on end looking at information regarding filter systems and filtration media, my head was spinning with all the various info, the info on this video was so easy to follow and expertly explained step by step that I think I now have a handle on how I want to set up the filtration for my sons pond. Thank you.
That's great the video has helped as that is why I make them - I love it when I know this hobby of my TH-cam channel is helping people as that's what TH-cam should be all about.
Groovy.
Thank you for your time. That is a 27 minutes, ( look see) .
And I now think that I can do it as well. All I need now is a fish pond. Thank you.
You really got a point with the Watt's, we changed your pump a month back. Tested it over night, we are doing 10.000L/H with 29-32W now. It use to be around 85W, now i can do 20.000L/H for the same watt.
That sounds quite amazing - what sort of pump is that?
The local Koi pool in the local Japanese garden uses a couple of filter beds about 4x8' filled with Monterey sands- really its a smooth gravel not sand. From what I can tell,it is up to the job if there are not too many fish in the pond. I doubt its as capable as some twin 5 High pressure sand filters...but this is what they went for.
Another uses some kind of pressure filter and that water is crystal clear. That would be the San Mateo Japanse garden..and its STUFFED with big Koi.
That’s a great looking filter and pump! I need to build a shower filter now!lol
Hi, Richard i did the same thing last Saturday , I brought the all ponds solutions pfc 50000 auto, it's linked before my bakki shower, must say I'm well impressed with clarity so far
Great stuff and it makes perfect sense to get the mechanical filtration done before the shower filter.
Groovy.
Pondguru just posted video I've done this morning 👍🏻👍🏻
Pondguru th-cam.com/video/6sBlRPzvVQs/w-d-xo.html
Watched it and it looks like a good filter - will certainly help the shower filter keep clean.
Pondguru thanks, was expensive but worth it i hope, and so easy to rinse through and clean being automatic. 😀
Hi there Richard,
Great filter and good info, thanks for sharing and best regards from Kiwi land.
Thanks for the info in this video. Just bought a green reset 60. Probably too big for my pond but I like the high flow rate of 18000lph. As it will be situated before my shower. I have foams on the first layer of the shower at the moment and sick of cleaning them. Fingers crossed this is what I need.
Great video Richard. On the UV light maybe the company thinks that the cleaner the water better light penetration compare to the dirty water coming straight from the pond. Looking forward to seeing the setting up of the rest of the filter for the pond. Thanks Richard for sharing.
Yes that is probably behind their thinking since a light after the foams will probably not get the quartz sleeve around the light dirty so quickly. When the quartz sleeve gets dirty it reduces the amount of light which shines out, making the light less effective. Whichever way round it is it will work fine for this application.
I see this was posted 4 years ago, are you still happy with it? Hows it holding up, nice and sturdy still? Would you recommend it? Ty!!!!
Ps i cant find the video you said you'd make when it was time to clean it.. did you ever record it?
I cannot Justify the price sadly. But epic stuff. It is worth it for people who have HUGE ponds.
Great work nice video.i would drill some more holes in the shower filter just incase them ones get clogged up.cant wait to see what else you do to it.
I should have filmed the bottom of the trays since the whole of the tray base is a plastic grid so will never get clogged up. I probably edited that bit out, lol
Pondguru I'm mean in the tube were it enters
As there is a pressure filter before the shower filter that should prevent blockage but with the previous set up when I only had a shower filter the pipe did get clogged from time to time. Running a brush along the pipe cleared blockages in seconds no problem.
After watching this mate... I'm so going to add a shower to my pressure filter as a secondary. Thanks very much for this post. 👍👌😎
Have you come across those plastic stacking crates supermarkets use for home delivery, known as bail arm crates? They have solid sides, perforated bases and flip over bars so that they can sit one on another. They would be idea for a shower filter and are dead cheap on Ebay.
That would do the job nicely by the sounds of it.
I must get on building my shower filter.
great video as always mate,👍😀
If you need anything for it just give me a call - you can even have the wheelie bin filter I made a while ago if you want.
Pondguru Thanks for the offer mate but our council boys would probably grab it empty all the media in the truck lol 😂🤣
No worries I just had a local guy asking if he can have it in another comment, lol
Great to see someone else with a saw in the same state as mine 😂😂
Hi Richard,
I've watched a few of your videos and really enjoy them. I found you when I was looking to build a raised pond and used tips from one of yours to build it. It's not quite complete yet but the water is in. The only problem is that I've hit a bit of a snag with the pumping arrangement because my pond isn't for Koi but for my ducks and geese. It's only small at around 1000L, if I've done my sums right, (4' x 4' x max 22" deep) so it gets mucky quickly.
My original idea was to have a pump at the deepest point which would push the water up and out of the pond to a filter inlet above the water line because the water level will rise and fall depending on rain & how much the birds splash about. At the time a bottom drain and gravity feed system wasn't even on my radar and someone with ducks and a small setup has advised that the pumps get clogged and break down quickly, possibly because of the feathers.
I've watched this video and the mega filter build video and can see that you are pumping up and out of a massive pond which is mucky(ish) and presumably has leaves & feathers together with the lumps of fish poo. I appreciate that leaves will chop up easier in the impeller than feathers would and the ratio of feathers to water volume in your pond is a lot less. Could you give me any advice on pumps that might help me out of my dilemma, please?
The pump I used in this video has performed very well and the link to it is in video description. Other pumps which perform very well on solids up to 10mm are the Aquamax range from Oase. Never had one of those block yet.
Pondguru Thanks so much for your response & advice. I just watched your "Good news, bad news" video, so it's very much appreciated :)
I have an 18000 litre/4000 gallon pond, Am I doing the costing correctly that Biohome media would come to about £1700?
That Bakki shower will certainly be clogged up with alge ,I suggest a siv in top chamber ?
Well that's an expensive pump failure. Ouch . It must take a lot of power to filter a pond that size. Now I can't say as I have ever touched a filter that made me think how good it felt lol That is a BEAST of a filter !! your installing. Also a nice little water fall. I like the sound of the water fall. I would like a pond here but it would be frozen to the bottom 7 months a year. The ice on the river freezes at least 40 inches thick each winter and it's moving.. I have to use an extension on my power ice auger just to go fishing. atb Paul
Damn, I often joke that I am in the Frozen North and I am as far as the UK goes but you guys over there are in the REAL Frozen North - I'm in tropical conditions compared to you in the Winter, lol
Yes the -40's and even -50's temps. and over 100 inches of snow fall can be a challenge at times. I posted a few pics. of a bear fight and 2 male lynx challenging each other { must be a girl involved } . They are on the facebook link from my u tube home page . enjoy
aaarrgghh...facebook related pages have a lifetime ban in my house as it is the most evil of 'social' sites. Feel free to send the pictures to sales@filterpro.co.uk as I'd love to see them.
Thank you sir..
Saya dari Malaysia. Sy sanat berminat dgn filter ni. Dimana boleh sy beli.
hi richard !! awesome filter setup and will just work well along side the other filter your planning to do !!
Yes it is really just a supplemental filter for this pond but for a normal sized pond it would make an awesome set up for clear water and really healthy conditions for sure.
Very unique channel name
Thank you for uploading a very informative video keep up the good work
No worries and thanks for watching.
I purchased the pump and filter on your recommendation as we used to have a 35 metre by 15 metre swimming pond! but the 45 gold fish was in too small a pond so now they have the larger pond. I used the existing pressure filter and pump to clean the water but it was not strong enough. Fitted the new pump today (July 6th) which is excellent but I struggled with connecting the pipes to the filter the rebranded Green Reset are complete rubbish such a bad design, I just hope it cleans the water otherwise over £500 wasted! Phil North Devon
@pondguru Thanks for all advice. I now have an aquarium, metal detector and a pond. Can you choose a less expensive hobby to copy next!
Excellent video, please can anyone confirm the manufacturer of the pressure filter, as the links do not work, thank you.
Sicce is the company name
"The hoes should always be tight" lmfao :D
Just bought the 540mm 3 tier filter and will be running it after a pressure filter too
I went for the 540 over 1000 as im pushed for space and its worth the money. many thanks on your videos
Do you sell pumice on ebay your pond is in the rear of the photos 👍👍
Yes the 540 can still fit loads of media in so no worries there. The listing of pumice I have on ebay is indeed the one with the pond in the background and I also have it on my website (pumice page) www.filterpro.co.uk
would putting a flout with a wight so it dose not move around to keep the inlet just off the bottom so it doesn't suck up the muck ?? love your shows, watch a lot so far anr look forward to them all learning a lot.... thanks
Yes that would allow it to draw cleaner water but when I get the large filter built for the pond I want the muck from the bottom of the pond to be removed so pump will be on bottom. I am going to clean the pressure filter in the next few days so it will be interesting to see how much muck has collected in the 3 weeks or so since fitting it.
Thanks for watching and appreciating the videos.
I’m unsure what outcome you’re looking for, however if it is clear water you need to up your filter by 10 times, what you’re doing isn’t going to have much impact on such a large pool, which is lovely by the way.
Also question how you are going to clean the media in the tub which is sat up high under the deck?
The most efficient way for a pool of that size would be a reed bed system via a long stream with drop in pools allowing plants to take the nitrates away.
Good luck, I’ll watch with interest.
If you look at recent videos I explain about the new filter I'm currently building and how it will be cleaned easily and quickly. The pond is already really well planted and conditions are good except clarity.
I did a similar filter system 25 years ago, bottom drains in each chamber 4x2x2 (pool is a lot smaller than yours 7k gallons) brushes got removed as I couldn’t keep up with the cleaning, they were in the second chamber, the first was a settlement chamber, then in to K1 and 2 following lava rock chambers, adding the baskets is a good move as these were a pain to clean, then pumped into a 70w UV, will also add this was gravity fed, 4” bottom and 2” skimmer.
If you have plenty of spare time to clean the filters that will make a difference, daily cleaning will have an impact.
Great stuff, that sounds almost exactly the same as my set up. The vortex filters should hopefully catch the main muck but the bush chamber may get the rest. With the amount of water I can drop into containers for cleaning I reckon they will get a quick but effective clean whenever they need one but it will be trial and error to know how long the intervals between cleaning should be.
Loving the content,
would you say that lava rock and dead coral live rock would be able to hold anerobic bacteria?
thanks
aaron
Hey mate please advise how you connected the pressured filter to the shower with what attachment please?? Etc ? I’m a bit baffled.
Luke
What is that little tiny house inside the pond, next to shower filter ?
is it good to have your pump on the bottom in the "muck"?
Can u do a vid on water changes, benefits and pitfalls. Homemade dechlorinators etc thx. How much water change to boost koi growth but not harm bacterial colonies. My experience tells me you need decent filtration surface to handle regular water changes.
Yes, everything revolves around having good filtration and I'm hoping to film the cleaning process for the pressure filter over the next few days if I get time.
Thats a very similar set up to my APS 20k pressure filter , the handle turning on mine is easy , a dab of superglue stops it flying off .
Yes having any pressure filter before the main biological filter is a great idea. I almost went for one similar to the APS filter but thought I'd give something a go which was a bit bigger - seems to be working OK so far as only very fine muck is coming through. I just added a fine pad in the top of the shower to see how much muck was still coming through and it does have some fine muck in it already.
Pondguru ive been to lazy to bury mine yet , i know that will effect the flo but digging is hard work in our dense north east clay ! Good tip about cutting the hose tails , i shall do that tonite
I feel your pain with the clay - I dug mine into hard packed clay but to be fair once I got through the first 6" it wasn't too hard to dig the hole.
Great video again
Glad you enjoyed it and I'll do an update / cleaning video in a few weeks too.
Won't the water track around that foam after a day or so?
Also, when you clean it, where does the poo go? It just squashes into the foam and remains in the water column doesn't it?
No the pump is still running I'd imagine itdisperses to the garden as flow is diverted by the handle as he explained!
Thanks for your video. Are you still satisfied with the Grenn Reset 100 Filter? Kind regards from Germany!
It was good while it lasted but ultimately I gave it away when I made the big filter on the pond.
@pondguru I feel like the green reset 100 would work well if you discarded the sponges and filled 1/2 or 3/4 of the filter with k1 media as it would move around well internally. Or keep the sponges and fill k1 in the gaps around the sponges in the cylinder.
Hi Pondguru, I only have a 1000 ltr under deck pond with gold fish & shubunkins, the 3000 ltr per hr pump runs through 2 blagdon UVC pressure filters to a water fall. My question is, would it be best to fit a huge pressure filter filled with Boi ultra between current filters and water fall or add an independent small Bakki shower? Love your videos, very helpful. Kind regards 🤔
Why didn't you install a large vortex filter before the pressure filter?
With this set up during the summer, you will have to clean this filter on a daily basis because of all the dirt.
hello, pond guru, can you highlight the whereabouts of the followup video that you mentioned about the performance of this filter
I will be looking cheers
can you explain why you would have a pressure filter, whats the benefit against an open box filter other than pressing a lever up and down to clean the sponges ? Nice channel by the way
Gives more options for sitting as there is no need for it to be at the same level or above the pond water level and the water exiting is also under pressure so plenty of opportunities to direct to additional filtration !
Hi I have a yamitsu mega xl black box,its beed fine nice clean water but cleaning the alfogrog was a bit of a pain,so I've put the alfogrog in filter bags for easy removal and cleaning,I have also fitted a 75ltr bin before the water goes into the mega box I've got the water from pond coming into the bottom of bin 1.5 then a 7 inc high shelve with mesh to rest a coarse sponge then out the top with 2x 2 inch outlets that go into the top of mega box as u would, but now for the last 6 days the water has gone cloudy any idea why it's gone from clear to cloudy just by adding the bin thanks
That looks a lot like a wet/dry vaccume.. i wonder if you can modify one to work similarly
Hi looks awesome can’t find available in Australia
Great vid, was going to get a Nexus but this is simpler and cheaper, the big filter they dont sell via the link anymore, do you know if anyone is still selling them?
www.cotswoldkoi.co.uk/product/green-reset-100-pond-filter/
You need to do a US filter tour!
I'm working on how I can do that in a virtual sense so that maybe part of a new series.....
I have just put a pond in and have a pump and pressure filter but was wondering this same thing as I think I would need some more biological filtering going on. I was looking at either a waterfall filter (DIY) and just shoving some media in there or a shower filter (DIY) against a wall, pump feeding that and the pipe coming from that running the waterfall. Obviously this is more difficult as it has to be higher than the pond somewhere up the bank.
Is this about right as the pressure filter seems more mechanical than bio? cheers. Great stuff BTW
what about attacking the filtering at the stream source where water empties in your pond and also using your pond filters as a back up , maybe you will get cleaner water without the mucky bits n bobs ?
It's really a combination of the clay base and crayfish digging in it - I will be combining a large filter with some trapping to try and sort that out.
You should make a cover for the shower filter keep the sun off it will end up going brittle.
hi brother, good day. i have raised koi pond just finished. i need idea for the filter DIY plz.
hi I do not know if you will see this but can you tell me what that plant to the right of the shower is called the one with huge leaves on it? is it a hosta or some thing hope it isn't a random weed that big
HI love the videos, Can I ask could i buy the wheely bin filter from you? if it were to sit doing nothing, Im not to far away from you at Nth tyneside, cheers
Just give me a ring and you're welcome to it 07772848730
Regards,
Richard
What’s the name of the pressure filter and where from at what cost
It says max pond size 9246 gallons. Would this be big enough for a 2250g pond with a heavy fish load? (15 adult koi) i only have 11 koi ans not full grown but i do plan on adding a few more. Ty
@pondguru I have been using a smaller version of your filter for the past 2 years here in the U.S.. The only difference is instead of a pump (up and down) handle mine has a crank (turning) handle also mine has a small void of space in the bottom for your choice of biomedia... I use white pumice (thanks to your advice on media once before). I picked a pump AND filter that were double what my pond was and my water stays crystal clean now with not additives. But I have to ask??? Being in the U.K. and aware of natural swimming pools I am sure, Why have you not done something like that for your pond to get it to clear up? Thanks for your shows!
I'm glad you enjoy the videos - thanks for watching.
The shape of the pond does not lend itself to a natural swimming pool design as it is basically a huge basin. If it was drained down to around half depth I could probably install walls around an edge , backfill with pipes in gravel and make a natural pool filter but the external large filter (yet to be built) will be way more convenient - just need some spare time to build it now.
The red volcanic rocks go into bbqa in the US.
Or they use to...oil would build up and catch fire
hello i need some help what piping do I need for a basic small about 500-1000 litre pond made out of cement. I am replacing a plastic liner and making the pond bigger but dont know what is needed for a basic system in terms of piping. do I need a drain and some sort of overflow system into a filter set up? what pipes do you suggest a photo showing this would be helpful thanks.
actually this is a rebranded product, this filter is made by Sicce (italy): green reset 100...
Hi Richard was watching your video and went out to buy a green reset 100 What a big filter I love it my mistake was i came home from work was a bit tired should of wait till tomorrow to set it up but couldn't wait u have the inlet and outlet basically I fix it the wrong way round 😣 and left it running all night i have fix it now the right way do u think it has damage the filter? Ples let me know thanks sam.
It should be OK and when you connect it up the right way it may spit out whatever muck it has currently trapped on the inside of the foams as opposed to the outside of the foams. Having it going the wrong way for only a day won't have damaged or clogged anything so nothing to worry about.
That's great news and thanks again for your very fast reply love all your videos very helpful and fun to watch as Allways 👌👌
Hi i have a 220 barrel can you please advise me on the best products to use in side for filtering please
Thanks for this vid pondy gives me great ideas for when my pond is set up 👍
john :)
No worries, man - I'm on building the large filter system for the pond half an hour or so a day and I just need a few more fittings for it.
Only the frames for all the filter parts are built so far but they are just tacked together with screws. They all need extra support and nails / bolts to hold them together as a couple of the platforms will be holding over 3 ton each and I don't want them breaking, lol
There will be 3 x large vortex bays followed by a 1500 litre tank full of brushed or flocor dropping down into a 1500 litre moving bed followed by 2 x 1500 litre tubs filled with alfagrog in large trays and the last tank will feed water to a 1000 litre tub filled with grog which also feeds up the a 4 tray shower filter filled with biohome and pumice which will be powered by a separate pump.
None of those parts are fitted together yet and that will take ages since every one will have a bottom drain for cleaning...it will probably be done in a couple of months at this rate, lol
Pondguru that sounds like an epic task and worthy of one of those massive shark tanks at seaworld hope it all comes together for you brother but dont be killing yourself doing it
Take it easy bro
John
The psychedelic trance I listen to for about 8 hours a day keeps me plugging away at the work so it's all good. I couldn't imagine working working for someone else now or having to listen to the spirit crushing radio in a factory environment - I'd go postal for sure.
Can you do a video on how you would set up a sump?
I will be getting a sump made soon so I can film a few videos on and show different options for setting up but it will be a while before it is uploaded as I have another 2 or 3 videos done ready for upload, a further 8 filmed and ready to edit and 3 filters to film for the 'pimp my filter' series.
I wish I had more time to do the editing as I could probably make a video every day but since the channel is a hobby for me it has to take a back seat to my business which demands a long working day, 7 days a week.
maybe planting more plants will naturally clean the water ? a pond that size should be able to self clean !! just wondering .
Just built a raised pond, will hold about 3000 litre,, my presurized filter and pump arrives today, so weekend lino in amd pump and filter. Filter is 17,000 and pump is 10,500. Eventually will go into a home made baki shower. But i dont know if i can attach a retro drain to the pump ???
Some pumps will have an intake to which a retrofit bottom drain can be fitted. However, if you've got a pond base which slopes toward the pump there will be no need to have any extra fittings.
@pondguru my pond base slopes, and the pump is situated at the lowest part of the pond, the inlet pipe comes back into the pond at the opposite end creating movment, I will be testing the water on 19th
@@jbbailey04 (my other channel) That sounds good to me - best of luck.
Hi, I'm Filippo and I am writing to you from Italy, congratulations for the video, I still appreciate the inventiveness of others, but I think there are various problems in this system.
Please, don't take this as a criticism, but as a way of exchanging experience. ;-)
The rule that is usually respected to have a good biological/mechanical filter is that it must have three times the flow rate (per hour) of the basin, and consequently a filter with adequate capacity , otherwise the waste product will always be greater than that it can clean.
For a lake like this you will understand that it is very difficult.
And that pump, however powerful, is not enough for that lake. Like the filter capacity.
That filter in my opinion is useless, if I did chemical measurements in that lake, before and after the installation of that filter, I think it would not change anything.
The only way to have a clean lake is to have lots of aquatic plants, and/or a clean river nearby. So creating a filter for a lake is a lot easier than we think, but needs luck, because is not easier to find a lake near from a clean river. If you buy a lake that does not have a clean river nearby, it becomes dramatically expensive. Infact there are also artificial solutions, but they are much larger systems than this, and they are not as cheap as this system. If they asked me to clean that lake, I would tell them to create a smaller one next to it, full of fast growing aquatic plants, to recirculate the water.
It's the cheapest solution, and after 1 year the chemical measurements would be better and the water probably would become transparent.
I believe operations like this are just a waste of money, with no tangible results. I hope my experience is useful for you.
Bye :-)
I built a bottom up filter, now I just need to go back down and no need for waterfall. Bonus. A prefilter to this would cut down on washing biomedia I guess.
Yes, most definitely - keeping good porous media clean is the main goal when trying to make the filter(s) more efficient.
what did you put in the three-storey box next to the pool
Hello i interested buying the pressure filter in this video i looked on ebay the filterpro website and cant seem to find it what is the name of the brand name of it then it be easier for me to look it up
What type of filter system would you recommend for a 2000 gallon koi pond and dose not cost thousands
I'm assuming that you are in the UK? I'm not too familiar with what is available in other countries.
If you are looking for a similar idea to this then there are a nation of pressure filters available now which would act as the first stage of filtration and then you could build a shower filter from suitable containers and minimal fittings very easily (I have a few videos showing how shower filters can be made on my channel).
That will allow you to spend the money where it really matters which is on the filter media - if the shower filter is big enough to get a good amount of 30mm-50mm white pumice in (maybe around 100kg) then that will do a great job of hammering away at ammonia and nitrite, any more in the filter and you'll stand a chance of reducing the nitrates too depending on stock.
If you're on a budget then any of the biohome media is probably out but we have a shower media which is very good and can be added later as funds allow - it packs into a filter extremely well.
The pressure filter would ideally be for 'up to 20000 litres' or more as that would have a suitable sized UV light in - pressure filters often aren't capable of doing a good 'water health' job by themselves, especially when koi is the stock but they do a great job of the UV and mechanical side of filtration.
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Regards,
Richard
Pondguru thank you for the quick response. I am in the UK that sounds like a good plan its well within my budget i will look in to them. Then will get intouch if i need more info.
Keep up the good work
Thank you
No worries, any time.
Hi
Are you still using this filter ?
You dont talk about the media in this filter, is there a reason for that ?
+ Can you change the media ball, and use some K1 insteed ?
Regards Henrik
Or is it only the smaller version that got bioballs in ? - Sounds wierd if so..
How is this filter doing 2 years on?
Can you put k1 in the pressure filter
brilliant content well done
Its interesting at how the reef keeping industry has done away with trickle filters years ago because they require such high maintenance to not be nitrate sinks. The pond industry had not cough up yet...
A Bakki shower is not a trickle filter with a low flow rate, to work they must run at high turnover rates to replicate the flow crashing over rocks as they do in real streams and also at least 4 tiers tall and I would also suggest that a 12000 pump is too small for that sized shower!
It would need to be closer to 20000 at least to function as intended but the results would be significantly better, with a “gassing off” effect!
im building a 7ft x 5ft x 2ftdeep pond what pump and filter would u recomend for the size
ever thought about not having the pump touching the very bottom of the pond where it will just suck all the crap up, should do it so its a couple of feet above the the bottom so its only cycling water and not crap off the bottom, (this is what i do in my very small pond but only have it a few inches)
I'll see how much muck is pumped from the pond and if it is excessive I may suspend the pump from the large platform so it is up off the ground. When I make the big filter for the pond I will now be using a different pump as that one will be to remove as much muck from the water as possible. Luckily I have a solids handling 16000 lph pump spare which will now run the big filter.
have a waterproof rot proof rope go across the pond so you can lower and raise the pump and have plenty spare, have a separate rope attached to the pump so you can pull it to shore, weight the bottom of the pump and let gravity take it to the center of the pond and lower it, once it reaches the bottom pull it back up by 3 - 4 feet of rope and tie it off, hope you get the general idea, best of luck
Yes that makes sense to me. It could be that it won't suck up too much muck - time will tell. Been going a week or so now and there has been no reduction in flow (.....yet.....)
could use very strong fishing line but i would have a couple of separate lines attached incase 1 broke
hate for you to have another pump go down on you, all the large stuff settles on the very bottom and thats what messed up other pump i would imagine
0:54 plenty of aeration going on there :)
What's the make of the filter please
Did you go all cockney at one point
Yes it was a line from 'Snatch' lol
Why didn't you build your own gravity filter for such a big pond? IMO this tiny (considering the pond size) pressure filter won't do much. I'd go with one or two big 1000 Liter IBC Containers and put a bunch of (like 150) brushes inside. That would filter the water much better than this filter, which considering the pump placement, will be dirty by tomorrow.
Not sure if you saw my previous video on the pond but I explained about the big filter I was building and showed all the parts (vortex, large plastic containers etc.).
The filter set up in this video is just to demonstrate what can be done and I mention a few times that it has no chance of cleaning a pond the size on mine.
With any luck I'll build the 'proper' filter soon.
My pond filter pump is about as big and my 14 x 14 5ft deep pond will just not clewr
I have a question for ya. Ken here from Texas. I have a concrete, fresh water fish pond with fish of course. I use water from a well to fill it with. It grows a lot of scum during the hot summer months we have here. Is there any way I can prohibit the growth of this scum?
It sounds like you need some sort of surface skimmer and there are 3 choices as far as designs go:
1 - built in skimmer where you would break out part of the pond side and fit the skimmer.
2 - free standing skimmer which would attach to the inlet of the pump if possible.
3 - free swimming skimmer which would travel around the pond and remove anything which is drawn into the basket.
If you search those terms for different skimmers on google you will find a nation of them but as I'm not familiar with the products available in the US or the design of the pond I can't recommend a specific design.
Regards,
Richard
Are you gonna use poleyster filling anywhere in the pond filter ?
I will probably use it in the big filter system I'll be building soon since I bought about 1000 large polyester pads when they were on offer a couple of years ago and still have all of them.
Oh thats sweet think they gonna clean up the murkyness off the water quite nice :D , i dont remember if you ever mentioned if the pond is lined with liner or is it clay pond 😎?
It is a clay pond so takes and age to clear.
I just added a fine pad to the shower to see how much fine muck it would catch and it is holding some already so it's all good.
Sicce Green Reset 100 Pond Filter,
USA product
Italian made and sold in the US as Sicce Green Reset 100, sold in the UK as Lotus Green Reset 100.
Well it used to be sold here - Lotus went bust.
thanks, well explained
QUESTION SIR, HOW DOES ON CLEAN THE SHOWER FILTER THING?
electricians tape! - use PTFE. If you use the gas PTFE (thicker) that would be better ....
When you adding the 20000k kw heater :D lol
lol
I was wondering would pond filter media like sponges be good for a sump drip plate filter?
They will be good to mechanically clean the water but offer little in the way of good environment for bacterial colonisation. As long as you have good media under the foams the filter will support a good amount of bacteria to ensure processing of ammonia and nitrite. Very few types of media will allow for anaerobic activity for nitrate reduction but it is perfectly achievable with the various forms of biohome - I'm assuming that you have a marine tank so biohome ultimate marine would be the one to go for at a rate of approx. 1.5kg - 2kg per 100 litres. That is the average amount of media needed for a full cycle in a marine system.
if i have a heavily planted aquarium can i place some biohome in the tank itself so that i have bacteria in the aquarium and in the canister filter ......am thinking of placing it under my air bubbles so that it has water running true it and some near plants were water is calmer ....is that good idea ?
It will still work under those conditions but any media will definitely be more effective in a filter of some sort. If you have a suitably sized canister filter which is well set up you should achieve full cycle in there and have no need for any more media in the tank, especially if the tank is well planted since the plants will help to reduce nitrate.
so no real benefit from boihome inside tank i thought bacteria in tank could keep more balance since it would be extension to the one in filter so when filter gets clean i have bacteria from tank water ready but its just idea
Cleaning media just involves giving the filter tray a shake in a bucket of water you have drained from the tank so that doesn't do anything to kill off bacteria.