Every time something goes wrong, Klopp’s got somebody to blame for it. Liverpool fans lap this up and as a consequence there’s always some underlying ulterior motive when things don’t go their way. When they’ve lapped up that much bullshit from their manager, it’s no wonder they’re so paranoid. It’s just like antivaxxers and flat earthers, once someone’s bought into one far fetched conspiracy, they’re primed for more of them.
stop making this unique. It's not. It happened to other clubs, deluded liverpool fans just think there's an agenda against their club because of their deluded manager.
@@joeyrobertson9523asshole, its embarassing that your club just accept the wrong decisions and shitty attitude of the officials, you should be thankful to Liverpool for bringing in the change and actually challenging for what they deserve rather than what they are given.
@@joeyrobertson9523this is a unique situation because it wasn’t that they got the call wrong because it was a tough call (which is the situation you’re describing that happens quite often), the VAR literally got the call right because it was obvious and failed to communicate properly. There is a massive difference between what happened to Liverpool and what usually happens with “bad” VAR calls. Bad VAR calls are typically debatable things that the popular opinion disagrees with
Liban was spitting on this episode. Liverpool need compensation. Either a massive $ amount or allow the game to be replayed. It’s about time PGMOL get held accountable for their actions. If neither of the above consequences are taken, Liverpool need to join with other clubs and start a class action lawsuit. Another apology CANNOT happen.
You’re chatting crap. Plenty of teams have had incorrect calls against them. Jota kicked Skipp in the head last season, should Spurs get a compensation package too? Jota scored the winner and Spurs missed out on Europe by one point. Were you asking for a class action lawsuit then? Donut
@@rjeazy-t4l Skipp shouldn't have been on the pitch after his leg breaker tackle at Diaz which should have been a straight red, you guys were 3-0 down at 20 mins and shouldn't have made the 3-3 no chance, justice prevailed that day when Jota scored the winner, stop with your selective biased views you clown.
@@rjeazy-t4l this is different, where fouls can draw a variety of opinions, this was an objective fault and mistake which heavily impacted the outcome of the match and games like these can have a huge effect on the final placements of teams, much worse when you are looking at margins that can stop a team qualifying for ucl. And the argument "we didnt do it before so why should we do it now?" is anti-progressive and ignorant, especially when addressing a serious problem like this, better to start now and hold PGMOL accountable than not at all and get that compensation which Liverpool, along with other teams, are owed. Also let's not act like spurs didn't rob brighton last season and were robbed of europe
@@playgyal222 loud and obnoxious and wouldnt be able to have an actual objective conversation about this topic. He would just be screaming about being robbed but not be able to add some insight on what could be done to fix it in the future
Fuad mentioning that the game continued is yes valid, however, scoring a goal when you are 10 men to 11 would have shocked Tottenham. It doesnt matter if both teams scored after that because Tottenham still wouldnt have had to score another goal to have won based on the potential final score. What we do know is that Liverpool were robbed of a goal, which could cost them the league or champions league place. Just saying sorry isnt good enough when you have a small amount of games with such high level competition. To the point of a challenge flag, I dont think this would help anything. As an American who grew up watching these sports, a lot of the time, the refs stand with the original calls that they made because they are a lot of the time judgement based. Now in this situation, the VAR line wouldve caught that the player wasnt offside and it wouldve been reversed. But if you introduce that in all situations, coaches will throw flags for judgement based calls and the refs arent going to overturn that call if its something that the on field ref made a call about.
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The problem was that the VAR guys thought the that the goal had already been given and they were checking just to see if anything was wrong leading up to it.
Liverpool got blatantly robbed that game, Spurs just barely won that game over Liverpool when it was 14 v 9 men. Matip made a mistake and that is why they won, it wasn`t due to Spurs breaking Liverpool down or something. Fuad is coping the integrity of that match is lost, and we have to deal with the reality that goals change games and the tactical landscape of both of the teams playing. Now that isn`t about Liverpool getting special treatment, if this is a a consistent issue, then a match should be replayed(it doesn`t matter if it happens with Liverpool vs Spurs, or Villa vs Wolves.) The standard should be the same if the integrity of the match is in question then it should be replayed with a new ref and var team in charge of the rematch.
From a Real Madrid fan’s perspective, the point about needing players that want to fight for the badge is something Real can 100% relate to Seeing how even the guys brought in recently share the same passion for the club as guys like Nacho, Luka, Carvajal, even Valverde/Vini/Rodrygo has really made such a difference early in the season. Especially after watching the game against Napoli, it feels like there’s a certain willingness to go the extra mile for the club and that’s what has helped get the results.
Even in wolves city match was clear error. Hwang had yellow and slide tackled Walker and didn't get yellow. He stayed on the ground and you could see he knew he is gonna go out but still nothing and then scored winner. Referees in this league are washed.
Great segment as a Liverpool fan found it really good to hear a nuanced conversation about Saturday! Fuad is a gent wit his analysis, no bias. Even Liban the serial Liverpool hater gave a balanced view of LFC & the game. Keep it up guys.
Nah this dude was making some biased opinions. The Curtis Jones red card was not valid. The studs may have been up but he made contact with the ball. At most it was a yellow.
@@DoomsdaySlayer I guess. But also, seen less given before. It’s just enough of a red card that it didn’t get overturned. If it was a yellow don’t think there would be an outcry massively but deffo from spurs fans. I’d want an oppo player sent off for that
Fuad doesn’t understand the difference between subjective decisions like the CL final penalty and Jones red card this VAR decision is completely different because the goal was actually awarded by VAR but didn’t reflect the score so it’s not the same 🤦🏽♂️
mad respect to Liban for dropping agendas and actually calling out referees for the betterment of the game in the future. Mistakes like these should not be happening in the supposed best league in the world
He took his shirt off to hold the badge up, not to parade his name Kulu has been vital for the team, he does the work you dont mention because its not a goal contribution
also more to fuad's point abt nfl refs announcing their calls -- before they even review it they'll say "ruling on the field is X, play is under further review" so that everyone knows exactly whats going on and to avoid confusion. seems like that's ultimately what happened between the head ref and the var refs.
Kulusevski's stats are legit unreal this season. He has covered more ground than anyone in the Premier League and he is in the top 5 for chance creations for the Premier League right now... he puts in a mad shift. He was underwhelming in terms of creativity against Liverpool yea but.. idk. If anything Kulu is underrated.
Spurs won by the grace of divine intervention. The only way for them to win was through such controversy. Such a shame because they are playing well but it is hard to call it a deserved win.
I don't understand how anyone can look at the Jones thing in real time not slow motion and think it's a red card. It's a 50/50 that both players are going in for and Curtis Jones foot rolls over the ball. Football is a physical sport and everything looks worse in slow motion. Not a single Spurs player thought it was a red they were ok with the yellow and the on field Ref made that choice and since it's not clear and obvious it should not have been overturned.
It was a stonewall red, it doesn’t matter about intent. Everyone in that stadium knew it was a red as soon as they showed the replay, including the liverpool players.
The consequence is semi auto offside implemented and a comp package on top of incompetent refs getting sacked. The FA has fined teams quick to protect refs, fined managers to protect refs, we cannot create an environment where exactly as Liban said where refs can not suffer any consequences and this become immune. As a Liverpool fan I don’t even want a replay, I want spurs at anfield to be piped 7-0+ and I feel the players on our squad want that too. Let them celebrate 3 points take it as charity for the needy
Nah, Fuad is acc being shameless here. It's not about bad decisions, this isn't a subjective decision like a handball, this is an objective FACT that the goal was onside and was still disallowed. The integrity of the game is in shambles.
Touching on the Saka giving up his penalties, Odegaard said after the Crystal Palace game that he wanted to take the penalty because he hasn't missed during pre season. Could possibly the same case during the Bournemouth game. This narrative that Saka doesn't have the balls to take pens is a misconception. Can't say about the Havertz pen tho, I think this was just to boost his confidence.
First of all respect to Liban and Fuad for praising VVD, it’s become a trend to hate on him when he’s been absolutely world class this season, imo the best defender in the league, people praise Dias all the time but I truly think VVD is the best in the league and even the world right now, that’s my personal opinion, and I genuinely think liban is my favourite UTD supporter ever, always unbiased and gives credit when credit is due
VVD got put in a pedestal he shouldn’t have been, that’s why when he dropped off ppl criticized him, Dias in the first 3 years at city achieved more and practically done the same thing
i dont think he got put on a pedestal, i think he truly was the greatest defender itw for a few years and also had the best prime any defender has ever had, its just rival fans hate saying that.... i mean we almost went unbeaten, won the UCL, the prem, fans were celebrating VVd getting dribbled past.... he didnt get dribbled past by a single opponent for over a season (65 games!!!) and he went 69 prem games unbeaten at Anfield, you cant really compare any defender ever to him... considering he also had a partnership with Joe gomez... and trent at RB who apparently cant defend... maldini had nesta, vidic had ferdinand, terry had carvalho, pique had puyol, ramos has pepe or varane, but VVD had joe gomez, people were just praying on his downfall so hard that the moment he made a single mistake they pounced on it, its purely because rival fans were jealous and still are, its that simple imo@@Prime1Wunna
put yourself in liverpools shoes: the game can’t be replayed. what would you want done? 1. bring in international, more competent referees 2. some sort of re vamp on VAR to make it so that it actually does it’s job, and we don’t have these mistakes 3. send the referee to the monitor more often, not just when a decision is going to be changed; at the minute it feels as if a referee is going to change his mind when he goes to the monitor whether he wants to or not 4. clearer communication in the VAR room; the audio has showed there wasn’t enough of that 5. referee retraining on VAR, so they take these moments more seriously 6. stop overprotection of referees and hold them more accountable for their mistakes; at the minute they’re so protected that they can make a mistake and it won’t matter. 7. insurance that this lack of competence won’t happen again, whether it be to liverpool or any team for that matter. aside from footballing integrity: 1. financial reimbursement of some level 2. potentially a point, if you were to put yourself in liverpools shoes 3. most importantly, assurance that this won’t happen to them again.
Fuad constantly interrupting and justifying rubbish is ridiculous. Shameless man. I’m hoping and praying the same happens to Spurs and hope Fuad comes on here singing the same tune.
‘When that red card happens, that’s when the game is gone for Liverpool’ Just ignore that they held out, somewhat comfortably, for the next 25 minutes, and only lost to an own goal in the last minute. Of course the spurs fan thinks a second half red made all the difference, but talks as though the disallowed goal was inconsequential.
Personally, I don’t think there should be any gain from Liverpool doing this. Points, money, replays would all just be diverting from the main worry. Liverpool haven’t asked for any of that, people are just so quick to assume. What we as football fans want is 1.) that this changes the ruling so if a situation like that ever happens again, the referee can revert the game and correctly allow the goal, 2.) that we hear all the conferring between VAR and refs during major VAR checks, and 3.) for referees to have genuine recourse in the case of making bad decisions (i.e. suspending licenses until they take additional training or sackings in case of repeat offenders). I will happily give up 1-3 points for that to happen
Most errors that our english referees in VAR make are subjective but now theyve opened a whole new lane of factual errors and throw it to miscommunciation. Idiocy at a VAR room shouldnt be allowed, these people are expected to be managing the biggest league in the world with the verbal standards of a 13 year old? Just say OFFSIDE or ONSIDE, none of these 'check complete, perfect' and notice the mistake almost a whole minute later. Consistency has been a huge problem in our league. It should be a common practice to make sure to review a controversial foul with the whole referee commitee and make the change then or follow that specific decision for the rest of the season so that at least we dont see the same controversy again. It also adds to the transparency we as fans can expect from future games when a similar foul occurs.
First 20 minutes liverpool 7shots 2 on target, tottenham 4 shots 0 target, liverpool with ten men a fair diaz goal disallowed and a gakpo goal, then tottenham with a son goal, with nine men liverpool conceded a last minute matip own goal, Liverpool dementrated why they are title challengers and why tottenham aren't yet.
People need to get off Kulusevski's back man. He's got the most penalty box entries and one of the highest shot creating actions this season. Saying he's been poor is mad. Guys are wrong about viewing the screen for offside as well. That doesn't happen in other countries. Only time they ever go to the monitor relating offside is when a subjective decision is made like an offside player obstructing a defensive player or determining if the ball was played by an attacking or defensive player. It's never for the lines. Liban has had a stinker in this opening segment. The PL weren't offered semi automated offsides. The PL clubs were and they rejected it, not the PL. Not the PGMOL.
Jurgen Klopp has called for Liverpool's match against Tottenham to be replayed after the VAR failed to award Luis Diaz's goal which was ruled out for offside
As a Liverpool fan, all I want is accountability in the sense that the people behind these wrong decisions are sacked and not to return. In the game after the goal was disallowed TOT went on to score, so the game could have changed completely if the decision was correct, if Liverpool won that game they would be top of the table. In my opinion, there are so many statements from the refs it is getting tiring. These decisions can cost teams the title, relegation, and Europe. Also, I looked very forward to a game between 2 good teams but it felt ruined. Cause I have no problem losing to the better team but after these shambolic dicisions lately it makes me fall out of love with the game. Ps love the pod and the mandem
One of the clubs taking such a terrible call to court or something might revolutionize the system in the league altogether imo so i agree with Liban on that
I’m a City fan but I still don’t understand why they can’t give the goal instead of a useless apology. I get that there are what ifs about what would happen if the goal was given but fuck the what ifs ‘cause the goal wasn’t a what if. Most frustrated I’ve been during a game 😑
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You can’t have a winning team with both Bruno & Rashford. You can only do it with one of them. You can’t have 2 High Risk/High Reward players in 1 Attack
chain reaction is a thing. the diaz goal most likely makes son’s goal not happen and so on. and people act like liverpool haven’t lost a league by 1 point so obviously they’re going to feel a way about this.
That chain reaction theory is utterly useless. Altering any minor past event changes a future outcome. That own goal may have never happened if Liverpool players didn’t lose their heads and go down to 9. It’s more about the odd conspiracies Liverpool fans have come up with that is causing them to recieve backlash.
Newcastle smacked Villa, Brighton smacked Newcastle, and Villa smacked Brighton 😂 btw Douglas Luiz is underrated, he’s the main stay in that midfield. When I heard the Liverpool links in the summer 👀 I was definitely interested
@@rjeazy-t4l obviously not, but someone has to be the first. Because these things cannot keep happening. We have VAR for a reason. Liverpool asking for compensation will benefit all clubs
REFS NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!! REFS SHOULD ALSO HAVE POST GAME INTERVIEWS JUST LIKE MANAGERS AND PLAYERS. THEY PLAY A BIG ROLE IN THE GAME ASWELL.
i don’t think having the VAR audio in the stadium will help anything, if anything it just takes longer. The majority of VAR decisions are made in less than a minute now and they should be able to take longer if needed like they should’ve gone back and given the diaz goal but in general it just makes it longer and if u want to hear the audio hear it after the game
I’m actually vexed how most people think the Jones red card was fair. Can a player not try and control the ball with the top of his foot. His studs were showing cos he was trying to drag the ball backwards. His foot slipped. People say it’s reckless but how is it reckless. Bare in mind Jones won the ball too. It looks bad cos of the freeze frame. If u watch it in real time he gets the ball and then his foot slips onto bissouma. Jones is going at a normal pace to get to the ball first and he gets their first but unfortunately his foot slipped. It’s a yellow because he still gets the man afterwards but for the way he got to the foul it’s not a red.
Fuad talking about G. Jesus in that LCM role baffles me, when ESR is literally on the bench. I genuinely believe ESR deserves better and he should push for a transfer in January to a team like Newcastle. He'd be a great acquisition for the Magpies
i do think it makes sense to pay liverpool for the mistake, if liverpool for example lose out on a place in the league by a point or 2 they’ll get paid a few hundred thousand or even millions less
I'm sorry, but Tottenham were finished if the Diaz goal counted. Tottenham fans are high if they think they would've done anything after that. Liverpool would've scored again before half time 100%.
that Spurs fan is so biased claiming the luis diaz goal didn’t determine the outcome of the game. once you take away the goal the integrity of the game is gone.
21:38 Can people stop pretending the Diaz decision was the only howler in the game? There was 4-5 absolutely horrendous calls which would’ve all single-handedly changed the game in ways nobody knows. The Diaz call was just the worst out of the lot, but let’s not push all the other bad decisions aside and make it out like us Liverpool fans are only upset about 1 decision when there was a handful.
Nfl arguably makes worse mistakes. The Saints vs Rams conference final no call is just one example. That no call actually lost them the game, they would have ran the clock out and won. Saints got robbed of a Super Bowl appearance. That’s way worse than a game in September. Not to mention they had 60mins left in the match to do something and they didn’t. The red was a pure red and anyone that says it wasn’t doesn’t know ball at all
No Fu izzy for this week might be a worse decision than the Diaz offside call
Yh they should of got rid of stars or haseeb for fu izzzy
They gave him the call but yagetit yagetit
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He’s too busy singing the power theme song to himself in the mirror
He just talks way to much bs, he’s funny but he acc kills any intelligent convo
Not having Fu Izzy is a disgrace
They tried to get him on but he didn’t want tooo, not much big boy haseeeb could do
wallahi bro
Stars Saying "Can I ask you guys a question" will forever be iconic 😂
Lol like tf he gon do when they respond with “no you can’t”
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We needed a Liverpool fan on this podcast to actually express the incompetence of the referee and VAR officials
Every time something goes wrong, Klopp’s got somebody to blame for it. Liverpool fans lap this up and as a consequence there’s always some underlying ulterior motive when things don’t go their way. When they’ve lapped up that much bullshit from their manager, it’s no wonder they’re so paranoid. It’s just like antivaxxers and flat earthers, once someone’s bought into one far fetched conspiracy, they’re primed for more of them.
stop making this unique. It's not. It happened to other clubs, deluded liverpool fans just think there's an agenda against their club because of their deluded manager.
@@joeyrobertson9523asshole, its embarassing that your club just accept the wrong decisions and shitty attitude of the officials, you should be thankful to Liverpool for bringing in the change and actually challenging for what they deserve rather than what they are given.
@@joeyrobertson9523 deluded
@@joeyrobertson9523this is a unique situation because it wasn’t that they got the call wrong because it was a tough call (which is the situation you’re describing that happens quite often), the VAR literally got the call right because it was obvious and failed to communicate properly. There is a massive difference between what happened to Liverpool and what usually happens with “bad” VAR calls. Bad VAR calls are typically debatable things that the popular opinion disagrees with
If Liverpool went up a goal with 10 men they close the game out, spurs couldn’t even score with the 9 on the pitch. Fuad chatting shit
18 minutes in and Fuad is as shameless as expected😂
we've lost the league by one point twice and people are questioning why liverpool want compensation
Liban was spitting on this episode. Liverpool need compensation. Either a massive $ amount or allow the game to be replayed. It’s about time PGMOL get held accountable for their actions. If neither of the above consequences are taken, Liverpool need to join with other clubs and start a class action lawsuit. Another apology CANNOT happen.
Liverpool know better than anyone else that 2 points matter ☠️
You’re chatting crap. Plenty of teams have had incorrect calls against them. Jota kicked Skipp in the head last season, should Spurs get a compensation package too? Jota scored the winner and Spurs missed out on Europe by one point. Were you asking for a class action lawsuit then? Donut
@@rjeazy-t4l Skipp shouldn't have been on the pitch after his leg breaker tackle at Diaz which should have been a straight red, you guys were 3-0 down at 20 mins and shouldn't have made the 3-3 no chance, justice prevailed that day when Jota scored the winner, stop with your selective biased views you clown.
@@rjeazy-t4l this is different, where fouls can draw a variety of opinions, this was an objective fault and mistake which heavily impacted the outcome of the match and games like these can have a huge effect on the final placements of teams, much worse when you are looking at margins that can stop a team qualifying for ucl. And the argument "we didnt do it before so why should we do it now?" is anti-progressive and ignorant, especially when addressing a serious problem like this, better to start now and hold PGMOL accountable than not at all and get that compensation which Liverpool, along with other teams, are owed. Also let's not act like spurs didn't rob brighton last season and were robbed of europe
@@idektbh18 so brighton should get compensation too?
Not having a liverpool fan isnt fair
Tbf when ur only liverpool fan is fuizzy he’s not the right one for the video (saying this as a liverpool fan)
@@dakzz8590I disagree (as a Liverpool fan)
@@dakzz8590How is he not “the right one”? Regardless, they still need a Liverpool fan perspective whether they’re “the right one” or not
@@playgyal222 loud and obnoxious and wouldnt be able to have an actual objective conversation about this topic. He would just be screaming about being robbed but not be able to add some insight on what could be done to fix it in the future
@@dakzz8590 What do you mean he's not the right one? He's most definitely watched more liverpool games than you in his lifetime.
Fuad mentioning that the game continued is yes valid, however, scoring a goal when you are 10 men to 11 would have shocked Tottenham. It doesnt matter if both teams scored after that because Tottenham still wouldnt have had to score another goal to have won based on the potential final score. What we do know is that Liverpool were robbed of a goal, which could cost them the league or champions league place. Just saying sorry isnt good enough when you have a small amount of games with such high level competition.
To the point of a challenge flag, I dont think this would help anything. As an American who grew up watching these sports, a lot of the time, the refs stand with the original calls that they made because they are a lot of the time judgement based. Now in this situation, the VAR line wouldve caught that the player wasnt offside and it wouldve been reversed. But if you introduce that in all situations, coaches will throw flags for judgement based calls and the refs arent going to overturn that call if its something that the on field ref made a call about.
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My problem with that VAR decision is how hard is it to say "check complete. Goal given" and then that mistake couldn't happen.
The problem was that the VAR guys thought the that the goal had already been given and they were checking just to see if anything was wrong leading up to it.
Liverpool got blatantly robbed that game, Spurs just barely won that game over Liverpool when it was 14 v 9 men.
Matip made a mistake and that is why they won, it wasn`t due to Spurs breaking Liverpool down or something. Fuad is coping the integrity of that match is lost, and we have to deal with the reality that goals change games and the tactical landscape of both of the teams playing.
Now that isn`t about Liverpool getting special treatment, if this is a a consistent issue, then a match should be replayed(it doesn`t matter if it happens with Liverpool vs Spurs, or Villa vs Wolves.) The standard should be the same if the integrity of the match is in question then it should be replayed with a new ref and var team in charge of the rematch.
I know Faud is going to be shameless. But let him, his club never win anything. Beating 9 men Liverpool is a trophy for his club 😂
Coming from a Newcastle fan😂😂😂
@@buster3465difference is I’m not celebrating beating 9 men Liverpool, because I couldn’t beat 10 men Liverpool 😂
Don’t cry
Wat do u want him to do? Why can't this guys just move on ffs
@@philippeh3904 braindead comment
no fu izzy is criminal
I know it’s not new or anything, but y’alls studio looks great. I usually listen on Spotify and loved the visual reminder of the effort yall put in
It’s new
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From a Real Madrid fan’s perspective, the point about needing players that want to fight for the badge is something Real can 100% relate to
Seeing how even the guys brought in recently share the same passion for the club as guys like Nacho, Luka, Carvajal, even Valverde/Vini/Rodrygo has really made such a difference early in the season. Especially after watching the game against Napoli, it feels like there’s a certain willingness to go the extra mile for the club and that’s what has helped get the results.
Fax
Also as Barca fan I can agree since we replace more than half of the players and the coach with players whom love the club we start winning titles
Even in wolves city match was clear error. Hwang had yellow and slide tackled Walker and didn't get yellow. He stayed on the ground and you could see he knew he is gonna go out but still nothing and then scored winner. Referees in this league are washed.
If you think Liverpool weren’t winning that game with the first goal allowed, you’re delusional
Icl we need a start sub sell of things like celebrations, goals, tournaments, haircuts that’ll be good for a midweek video
Liban was cooking in that referee segment, completely agree with everything he said
Great segment as a Liverpool fan found it really good to hear a nuanced conversation about Saturday! Fuad is a gent wit his analysis, no bias.
Even Liban the serial Liverpool hater gave a balanced view of LFC & the game.
Keep it up guys.
Nah this dude was making some biased opinions. The Curtis Jones red card was not valid. The studs may have been up but he made contact with the ball. At most it was a yellow.
@@DoomsdaySlayerit was a pretty clear red. It doesn’t matter if he made contact with the ball. Read the laws.
@@DoomsdaySlayer I guess. But also, seen less given before. It’s just enough of a red card that it didn’t get overturned. If it was a yellow don’t think there would be an outcry massively but deffo from spurs fans. I’d want an oppo player sent off for that
gent w his analysis he was horrendous can't believe what I was hearing
@@aksdodera he was calm. Nothing he said was really wrong. He hardly goaded lfc about the win + gave huge props.
Fuad doesn’t understand the difference between subjective decisions like the CL final penalty and Jones red card this VAR decision is completely different because the goal was actually awarded by VAR but didn’t reflect the score so it’s not the same 🤦🏽♂️
Yh these spurs fans are shameless..talk sheet but as soon as you talk real facts they just say 'yh but yh but' 😂
@dakopper77 . Do you what shameless means we're you not shameless last season at anfield or do Liverpool fans have no shame
@@mohammedsulemanpatel3849 go on tell me so that I can put you in your place
mad respect to Liban for dropping agendas and actually calling out referees for the betterment of the game in the future. Mistakes like these should not be happening in the supposed best league in the world
This is completely unacceptable where is fu Izzy😡😔we need him
Curtis is never a red, he didn't lunge or go studs up, he stepped on the ball hence studs down
Casemiro, Iwobi and others have been sent off for the exact same thing. The Jones red is one of the few examples of consistency in the game.
Newcastle 4-1. Liban and Starplayer saying Mbappe, Kulu Mani, Dembele are cooking Botman, Tripper, Dan Burn. Watch football like Fuad!!
Fuad needs to get his head checked. Used to like him, but now I’ve seen his true colors
Nah, he was spitting facts today. Hold that.
He took his shirt off to hold the badge up, not to parade his name
Kulu has been vital for the team, he does the work you dont mention because its not a goal contribution
It didn’t seem that way when I watched it live and I thought it was super cringe, but this makes sense lol
@@joc9370 I get that, but he got tackled when he went to hold it up lmao
Yes Libaann, spot on. Stop the play. Explain you have miscomunicated and give the goal. Simple as that it only takes a couple seconds
also more to fuad's point abt nfl refs announcing their calls -- before they even review it they'll say "ruling on the field is X, play is under further review" so that everyone knows exactly whats going on and to avoid confusion. seems like that's ultimately what happened between the head ref and the var refs.
Kulusevski's stats are legit unreal this season. He has covered more ground than anyone in the Premier League and he is in the top 5 for chance creations for the Premier League right now... he puts in a mad shift. He was underwhelming in terms of creativity against Liverpool yea but.. idk. If anything Kulu is underrated.
I feel for fu Liverpool got SHEGGED 😂
Spurs won by the grace of divine intervention. The only way for them to win was through such controversy. Such a shame because they are playing well but it is hard to call it a deserved win.
Dat brudda Liban tryna hide his arms, we see dem leng tings brev💪🏾
Kulusevski underrated for sure. Phenomenal ball carrier
Also the player with the most distance ran, incredible defensively aswell. Perfect Pep winger
I don't understand how anyone can look at the Jones thing in real time not slow motion and think it's a red card. It's a 50/50 that both players are going in for and Curtis Jones foot rolls over the ball. Football is a physical sport and everything looks worse in slow motion. Not a single Spurs player thought it was a red they were ok with the yellow and the on field Ref made that choice and since it's not clear and obvious it should not have been overturned.
It was a stonewall red, it doesn’t matter about intent. Everyone in that stadium knew it was a red as soon as they showed the replay, including the liverpool players.
The consequence is semi auto offside implemented and a comp package on top of incompetent refs getting sacked. The FA has fined teams quick to protect refs, fined managers to protect refs, we cannot create an environment where exactly as Liban said where refs can not suffer any consequences and this become immune.
As a Liverpool fan I don’t even want a replay, I want spurs at anfield to be piped 7-0+ and I feel the players on our squad want that too. Let them celebrate 3 points take it as charity for the needy
Nah, Fuad is acc being shameless here. It's not about bad decisions, this isn't a subjective decision like a handball, this is an objective FACT that the goal was onside and was still disallowed. The integrity of the game is in shambles.
just wait for spurs to experience a horrendous call and see how fast he switches up
liban was 100% correct about the referees
The way Li ban has more passion for other L’s rather than his own club 😭
Touching on the Saka giving up his penalties, Odegaard said after the Crystal Palace game that he wanted to take the penalty because he hasn't missed during pre season. Could possibly the same case during the Bournemouth game. This narrative that Saka doesn't have the balls to take pens is a misconception. Can't say about the Havertz pen tho, I think this was just to boost his confidence.
First of all respect to Liban and Fuad for praising VVD, it’s become a trend to hate on him when he’s been absolutely world class this season, imo the best defender in the league, people praise Dias all the time but I truly think VVD is the best in the league and even the world right now, that’s my personal opinion, and I genuinely think liban is my favourite UTD supporter ever, always unbiased and gives credit when credit is due
VVD got put in a pedestal he shouldn’t have been, that’s why when he dropped off ppl criticized him, Dias in the first 3 years at city achieved more and practically done the same thing
i dont think he got put on a pedestal, i think he truly was the greatest defender itw for a few years and also had the best prime any defender has ever had, its just rival fans hate saying that.... i mean we almost went unbeaten, won the UCL, the prem, fans were celebrating VVd getting dribbled past.... he didnt get dribbled past by a single opponent for over a season (65 games!!!) and he went 69 prem games unbeaten at Anfield, you cant really compare any defender ever to him... considering he also had a partnership with Joe gomez... and trent at RB who apparently cant defend... maldini had nesta, vidic had ferdinand, terry had carvalho, pique had puyol, ramos has pepe or varane, but VVD had joe gomez, people were just praying on his downfall so hard that the moment he made a single mistake they pounced on it, its purely because rival fans were jealous and still are, its that simple imo@@Prime1Wunna
At no point before the red card was I worried about Tottenham though. The way the game was going I was sure Liverpool would win.
put yourself in liverpools shoes:
the game can’t be replayed. what would you want done?
1. bring in international, more competent referees
2. some sort of re vamp on VAR to make it so that it actually does it’s job, and we don’t have these mistakes
3. send the referee to the monitor more often, not just when a decision is going to be changed; at the minute it feels as if a referee is going to change his mind when he goes to the monitor whether he wants to or not
4. clearer communication in the VAR room; the audio has showed there wasn’t enough of that
5. referee retraining on VAR, so they take these moments more seriously
6. stop overprotection of referees and hold them more accountable for their mistakes; at the minute they’re so protected that they can make a mistake and it won’t matter.
7. insurance that this lack of competence won’t happen again, whether it be to liverpool or any team for that matter.
aside from footballing integrity:
1. financial reimbursement of some level
2. potentially a point, if you were to put yourself in liverpools shoes
3. most importantly, assurance that this won’t happen to them again.
Fuad constantly interrupting and justifying rubbish is ridiculous. Shameless man.
I’m hoping and praying the same happens to Spurs and hope Fuad comes on here singing the same tune.
Damn bro chill
‘When that red card happens, that’s when the game is gone for Liverpool’
Just ignore that they held out, somewhat comfortably, for the next 25 minutes, and only lost to an own goal in the last minute.
Of course the spurs fan thinks a second half red made all the difference, but talks as though the disallowed goal was inconsequential.
Held out comfortably by giving up a goal?...ok
Personally, I don’t think there should be any gain from Liverpool doing this. Points, money, replays would all just be diverting from the main worry. Liverpool haven’t asked for any of that, people are just so quick to assume. What we as football fans want is 1.) that this changes the ruling so if a situation like that ever happens again, the referee can revert the game and correctly allow the goal, 2.) that we hear all the conferring between VAR and refs during major VAR checks, and 3.) for referees to have genuine recourse in the case of making bad decisions (i.e. suspending licenses until they take additional training or sackings in case of repeat offenders). I will happily give up 1-3 points for that to happen
Miggy Miggy Miggy can't you see, sometimes your goals just hypnotize me.
Most errors that our english referees in VAR make are subjective but now theyve opened a whole new lane of factual errors and throw it to miscommunciation. Idiocy at a VAR room shouldnt be allowed, these people are expected to be managing the biggest league in the world with the verbal standards of a 13 year old? Just say OFFSIDE or ONSIDE, none of these 'check complete, perfect' and notice the mistake almost a whole minute later.
Consistency has been a huge problem in our league. It should be a common practice to make sure to review a controversial foul with the whole referee commitee and make the change then or follow that specific decision for the rest of the season so that at least we dont see the same controversy again. It also adds to the transparency we as fans can expect from future games when a similar foul occurs.
First 20 minutes liverpool 7shots 2 on target, tottenham 4 shots 0 target, liverpool with ten men a fair diaz goal disallowed and a gakpo goal, then tottenham with a son goal, with nine men liverpool conceded a last minute matip own goal, Liverpool dementrated why they are title challengers and why tottenham aren't yet.
People need to get off Kulusevski's back man. He's got the most penalty box entries and one of the highest shot creating actions this season. Saying he's been poor is mad.
Guys are wrong about viewing the screen for offside as well. That doesn't happen in other countries. Only time they ever go to the monitor relating offside is when a subjective decision is made like an offside player obstructing a defensive player or determining if the ball was played by an attacking or defensive player. It's never for the lines.
Liban has had a stinker in this opening segment. The PL weren't offered semi automated offsides. The PL clubs were and they rejected it, not the PL. Not the PGMOL.
Jurgen Klopp has called for Liverpool's match against Tottenham to be replayed after the VAR failed to award Luis Diaz's goal which was ruled out for offside
faud not letting liban speak lmaoooooo
As a Liverpool fan, all I want is accountability in the sense that the people behind these wrong decisions are sacked and not to return. In the game after the goal was disallowed TOT went on to score, so the game could have changed completely if the decision was correct, if Liverpool won that game they would be top of the table. In my opinion, there are so many statements from the refs it is getting tiring. These decisions can cost teams the title, relegation, and Europe. Also, I looked very forward to a game between 2 good teams but it felt ruined. Cause I have no problem losing to the better team but after these shambolic dicisions lately it makes me fall out of love with the game. Ps love the pod and the mandem
fuad is a madman he’s unbelievably shameless 😂😂
Every time they did that “real man” thing my skin crawled from cringe 😭😭
Fu Izzy is becoming a fan favourite, sad that he's not here
Wish Fu was on had to hear his thoughts 😂
i beg you man never let haseeb host again
One of the clubs taking such a terrible call to court or something might revolutionize the system in the league altogether imo so i agree with Liban on that
I’m a City fan but I still don’t understand why they can’t give the goal instead of a useless apology. I get that there are what ifs about what would happen if the goal was given but fuck the what ifs ‘cause the goal wasn’t a what if. Most frustrated I’ve been during a game 😑
Just bring FAYSAL guys. This guy knows some serious ball! :)
Respect
Fam is it just me or Star's looking like Fu Izzy 😂😂
13:10 /17:38 Liban speaking facts
21:40😂😂
26:00 Shameless😂😂
44:09 Marcus what😂😂
55:02 😂😂
1:02:15 Yung filly
1:05:11 Jorden pele
1:09:30 Dont come around K town😂😂
1:17:50 they tried to Fu izzy him
1:22:10 Liban didn't have to violate faysal like that man said the Faysal Treatment 😂😂
1:25:00 keep this duo😂😂
1:27:00 He's cooking
1:30:06 Libans moving mad😂
1:44:00 tryna be cheeky
2:03:55😂😂
2:27:00 David moyes
2:29:48 Fuad expression
2:32:47😂😂
2:33:18😂
2:39:00 D&ck heads😂😂
2:40:30 Champion of whaat
2:42:00 😂😂
Can we see Champions league rounds ups too now
You can’t have a winning team with both Bruno & Rashford. You can only do it with one of them. You can’t have 2 High Risk/High Reward players in 1 Attack
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When everyone did an impression of fuad that was the funniest shit ever 😂😂😂
They were barking and growling for a minute straight 🤣🤣🤣
chain reaction is a thing. the diaz goal most likely makes son’s goal not happen and so on. and people act like liverpool haven’t lost a league by 1 point so obviously they’re going to feel a way about this.
That chain reaction theory is utterly useless. Altering any minor past event changes a future outcome. That own goal may have never happened if Liverpool players didn’t lose their heads and go down to 9.
It’s more about the odd conspiracies Liverpool fans have come up with that is causing them to recieve backlash.
Newcastle smacked Villa, Brighton smacked Newcastle, and Villa smacked Brighton 😂 btw Douglas Luiz is underrated, he’s the main stay in that midfield. When I heard the Liverpool links in the summer 👀 I was definitely interested
Our best player by a mile guy is a joke
man are saying liverpool need a compensation package or they need to go to court
are we going to do this over EVERY incorrect call?
these mistakes happen way too often. One single point could cost a club the league. Compensation is the least they could do.
@@nidamnnn are you going to go back and reward every club who’s had an incorrect call against them?
@@rjeazy-t4l obviously not, but someone has to be the first. Because these things cannot keep happening. We have VAR for a reason. Liverpool asking for compensation will benefit all clubs
@@nidamnnn wolves had a bad call vs luton last week, why should they be forgotten about ?
@@rjeazy-t4l they couldve complained like liverpool but they didnt. This just shows me that klopp is the only manager with a spine 🤣
REFS NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!! REFS SHOULD ALSO HAVE POST GAME INTERVIEWS JUST LIKE MANAGERS AND PLAYERS. THEY PLAY A BIG ROLE IN THE GAME ASWELL.
i don’t think having the VAR audio in the stadium will help anything, if anything it just takes longer. The majority of VAR decisions are made in less than a minute now and they should be able to take longer if needed like they should’ve gone back and given the diaz goal but in general it just makes it longer and if u want to hear the audio hear it after the game
loved the insight from the lads as a liverpool fan
as for the consequences personally someone needs to be sacked
Jesus could play that Bobby Firmino role as the false 9 very well
I’m actually vexed how most people think the Jones red card was fair. Can a player not try and control the ball with the top of his foot. His studs were showing cos he was trying to drag the ball backwards. His foot slipped. People say it’s reckless but how is it reckless. Bare in mind Jones won the ball too. It looks bad cos of the freeze frame. If u watch it in real time he gets the ball and then his foot slips onto bissouma. Jones is going at a normal pace to get to the ball first and he gets their first but unfortunately his foot slipped. It’s a yellow because he still gets the man afterwards but for the way he got to the foul it’s not a red.
5:52 ''studs showing''.... this guy man, just lying all the time
Can you get rid of the Fenerbahçe scarf and put Galatasaray one we are doing way better then them 🙈
If these lads knew ball they would know they NEVER go to the monitor for offsides 😂😂
Fuad talking about G. Jesus in that LCM role baffles me, when ESR is literally on the bench. I genuinely believe ESR deserves better and he should push for a transfer in January to a team like Newcastle. He'd be a great acquisition for the Magpies
Always spurs tho. Remember when Romero pulled Cucurellas hair
WE NEED MID WEEK CONTENT!!!!!!!!!
We need @expression Oozing for once 👀 (love the pod btw)
i do think it makes sense to pay liverpool for the mistake, if liverpool for example lose out on a place in the league by a point or 2 they’ll get paid a few hundred thousand or even millions less
The thing is var isn’t just a computer making decisions it’s being used by a ref so there will always be human error even with var
Yes, but it shouldn’t Matter
@@sindrehagen1624but it does
I’m contemplating if I can start watching this episode with no fu Izzy and an Excited Fuad who probably thinks Spurs deserved the win.
I’ve said it for a while. Mbappe. Vini. Haaland. In that order. Haaland is the worlds next Lewa/Suarez/Zlatan. But not the next Ronaldo/Messi
I'm sorry, but Tottenham were finished if the Diaz goal counted. Tottenham fans are high if they think they would've done anything after that. Liverpool would've scored again before half time 100%.
LOL what a bunch of bullshit. Spurs are one of the best in the league at getting points from being behind in a match.
@@Adtrevino37 They aren't as good as Liverpool though. They were not going to win.
that Spurs fan is so biased claiming the luis diaz goal didn’t determine the outcome of the game.
once you take away the goal the integrity of the game is gone.
Nice episode keep it up
Forest Gump does not represent the Forest fan base at all
21:38 Can people stop pretending the Diaz decision was the only howler in the game? There was 4-5 absolutely horrendous calls which would’ve all single-handedly changed the game in ways nobody knows. The Diaz call was just the worst out of the lot, but let’s not push all the other bad decisions aside and make it out like us Liverpool fans are only upset about 1 decision when there was a handful.
@@mxhdd_6 go specsavers lad 😂
Fuad is absolutely shameless man how can you defend anything about that decision
Fuad the definition of a prem merchant, Dan burn locking up ousmane Dembele? Lollll
This is going to be exciting as a Spurs fan
2:11:48 that line my Fuad out of context is nuts
Nfl arguably makes worse mistakes. The Saints vs Rams conference final no call is just one example. That no call actually lost them the game, they would have ran the clock out and won. Saints got robbed of a Super Bowl appearance. That’s way worse than a game in September. Not to mention they had 60mins left in the match to do something and they didn’t. The red was a pure red and anyone that says it wasn’t doesn’t know ball at all
They need to have coaches challenges in football just like in the nba and nfl it helps a lot
Yeah time to leave it these are the worse takes I have heard all year about the Liverpool situation