Have you guys considered using an actual drifter? We have one of the best in the world locally available, have a google for James Deane. Ironically, as with many circuits, Llandow does not allow or welcome drifting in any way.
No we wanted Ben as he is a boss/a friend and is a stunt driver so does it all. He also isn’t an “influencer” which we are trying to avoid 🤣🤣. No the circuit doesn’t lend itself to it at all, but it was available and didn’t break the bank. 👍🏻
It couldn't get better than this having the privilege of being taught by Ben Collins an absolute legend behind the wheel. He clearly shows that's not easy with everything shut down, the M2 CS is more handful than I thought. An absolutely masterpiece 👌
the best trick - provoking a big initial pendulum to switch drift direction - is missing from my pov. i would recommend a very fast and abrupt throttle lifting at the end of the drift to perfectly switch the car to the next drift (to the other direction) with big initial angle. once you've got that feeling, everything sideways is possible :-)
Awesome, best drifting video I’ve seen! The key really is to keep feeding in the power, the M2 wants to snap back to straight if you don’t keep the wheels spinning. It took me the better part of a weekend to get it all put together where I started to really feel like the car was doing what I wanted instead of me reacting. Dry track and Super Sports took a while to get the hang of.
Great videos. TH-cam needs more of these normal dudes busting their asses trying to get it right, rather than Chriss Harris sending it sideways from corner to corner talking about how easy it is to slide an M car.
I agree,sliding a car on a track without teaching the masses is immature at best and pointless ,Chris Harris would do better by watching this video in my opinion
At 19:50 you can see where Ben has his eyes in the right place but the driver is just looking straight thru the windshield.... The eyes are key for drifting.
Love watching a skilled driver, do you notice how relaxed Ben Collins hands are on the wheel, if that was me my knuckles would be white gripping the wheel for my life.
Great tutorial! This is the exact problem i have with my e92 m3 as it has michelin ps4’s on. Its psychologically hard to put more power in after the initial slide!
It does go through tyres quick!! Get the track days under you belt first then go from there, find the limit. Which I am sure you saw happens very quickly and abruptly. Go steady and enjoy it! 👍🏻👍🏻
Brilliant vid indeed, I have to agree! I've owned my M2 since back in May 2017, a car I'm for sure holding onto it's incredibly agile and you'll feel like you are in 100% control of your vehicle, which is epic. Booking a drift tutor on a track is a great and fun idea, however to get the hold off drifting in your M2 you won't need a track necessarily. It's such an easy car to just drift around town, calm back roads, parking lots! Start light and pick up the pace along with confidence! That's how I went about it anyways. Best of luck with your M2 and drive it like a champ!
I think the fact it was raining makes it that much more useful with a little common sense applied to the concepts. Parting out my Ps2 m235i coincidentally and this spec to an extent is what I’m getting. N55 sounds sooo sexual but you can get so much (MORE) without having to mod. No fuel controllers, no PI, no (better)HPFP , LPFP, decat,etc) with this. I think this spec is going to become one of those 25 yr gems. Not e46 💎, but gem. Just flash and void warranty 😜 🤙🏼 check out smoking tire I did when first got my f22. I’m no natural lol, just an audio engineer th-cam.com/video/FHVEXEfSuBU/w-d-xo.html
There are settings for the dampers, power train and steering in an M2 CS. Comfort, sport and sport +. So comfort on the adaptive dampers does change the handling. 👍🏻👍🏻 normal M2 comp doesn’t have adaptive dampers.
That was such a great video to watch!! Loved every second of it. What drive logic setting were you using? Efficient, comfort, comfort? Also were you using the second or third max shifting sensitivity?
What I want to find out is, is it easier to do the drift and sliding with a manual m2 or an auto trans this whole thing looks very confusing and harder than I always thought as an m2 owner I have only done a few power slides but I am really scared to push the car this hard at the same time I feel like am missing the fun this ultimate machine I own 🙄
Great video but who would go out and buy a BMW M2CS to trash it on a track ? 😂 tyres are expensive to replace and so too is the drive train . So please can I borrow your car ? 😂😂
Those who can even afford it, even fewer could drive it at 50% of what is shown here….He has a one to one connection with that M2 CS….like a painter on a canvas.
@@Stilo95 SO at the time I didn't get a load of people commenting saying we were doing something "illegal". Admittedly now it has no context but back then it did. 🤣
@@Motorflix just the excitement was a bit loud compared to the rest of the audio..04:30 was one example..there were others.. just sounds like shouting on the mic and doesn't comes across on the speakers well as it's very loud compared to the rest of the audio..otherwise was a good video 👍
@@Motorflix I think he means the talking parts are really quiet and actually hard to listen to at times. When the music cuts the volume drops to about 20% (especially noticeable at 1:30). In-car audio is not as bad though.
@@cw205mi16 very annoyingly walking up to the car there was some interference with one of the mics, only found out in the edit. It is only for 15 seconds or so though. Everything else was bang on the money. 👍🏻👍🏻 Hope you enjoyed the rest of it. 👍🏻
And also a good way to shorten the life of your car in about every respect. Look, let the TH-camrs do the crazy shit, so we can sit back and watch them abuse their own hardware.
An honour and a pleasure to have Ben on Motorflix. I am sure it will not be the last time. So make sure you SUBSCRIBE!
Have you guys considered using an actual drifter? We have one of the best in the world locally available, have a google for James Deane.
Ironically, as with many circuits, Llandow does not allow or welcome drifting in any way.
No we wanted Ben as he is a boss/a friend and is a stunt driver so does it all. He also isn’t an “influencer” which we are trying to avoid 🤣🤣.
No the circuit doesn’t lend itself to it at all, but it was available and didn’t break the bank. 👍🏻
He might be a great driver but his real talent seems to be teaching. Love his enthusiasm when you were beginning to get it.
We are good friends which makes it easier, but he is a boss at it! 👍🏻👌🏻
@@Motorflix I want him to teach me to drive like this
5:00 - that round spot at 2 o'clock on the carbon rotor is a wear indicator.
Best drifting tutorial video I’ve ever watched on the tube.... and I’ve watched a lot. Thanks
Wow high praise indeed!! Thank you, really glad you enjoyed it. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Did you watch Chris Harris tutorial?
All those years wearing the white tracksuit, while this man should have had his own show, enjoyable to watch!
Some say that under the helmet, he's just as entertaining as the numpties who occupied the hanger all day
06:33"at least we be more comfortable now "
"Ok"
"I doubt it be much different "
6:39 his reaction ahahaha
It couldn't get better than this having the privilege of being taught by Ben Collins an absolute legend behind the wheel. He clearly shows that's not easy with everything shut down, the M2 CS is more handful than I thought. An absolutely masterpiece 👌
Really glad you enjoyed it. Wicked car, but spikey on the limit for sure! 👍🏻
What a brilliant video! People would pay a lot for this kind of 1-1 tuition, thank you so much for sharing. That M2 colour is amazing isn't it
Really glad you enjoyed it!! It took a lot of planning and executing, but I think it was well worth it! Misano blue is incredible, it really pops!
the best trick - provoking a big initial pendulum to switch drift direction - is missing from my pov. i would recommend a very fast and abrupt throttle lifting at the end of the drift to perfectly switch the car to the next drift (to the other direction) with big initial angle. once you've got that feeling, everything sideways is possible :-)
Ben is such a great guy. Boy needs his own show, just driving around, talking. Get the man together with Harris.
truer words have rarely been spoken XD
Love the authenticity of the stress and of the desire to get it done 😂
Awesome, best drifting video I’ve seen! The key really is to keep feeding in the power, the M2 wants to snap back to straight if you don’t keep the wheels spinning. It took me the better part of a weekend to get it all put together where I started to really feel like the car was doing what I wanted instead of me reacting. Dry track and Super Sports took a while to get the hang of.
Glad you enjoyed it!! Go steady out there. 👍🏻👍🏻
Great videos. TH-cam needs more of these normal dudes busting their asses trying to get it right, rather than Chriss Harris sending it sideways from corner to corner talking about how easy it is to slide an M car.
I agree,sliding a car on a track without teaching the masses is immature at best and pointless ,Chris Harris would do better by watching this video in my opinion
The moment you managed to link the two slides shows just how much he still loves cars and what ever he did with them.. That was a happy Stig face XD
At 19:50 you can see where Ben has his eyes in the right place but the driver is just looking straight thru the windshield.... The eyes are key for drifting.
Ben is such a great guy and the knowledge and humbleness he has is fenominal
I am sure he will see this and like it very much! 👍🏻
this man shud have his own show insted of being a fantom in a whyte sute
Love watching a skilled driver, do you notice how relaxed Ben Collins hands are on the wheel, if that was me my knuckles would be white gripping the wheel for my life.
The best drifters hardly touch the wheel
Great tutorial! This is the exact problem i have with my e92 m3 as it has michelin ps4’s on. Its psychologically hard to put more power in after the initial slide!
Man you seriously bang out some fantastic content.
Thanks dude. Loads more coming. Trying to keep it coming regularly as possible!
Brilliant vid learnt something as I’m picking up a M2 in a few weeks, my 1st rwd car so I’m think I’ll book some trackday and drift tutoring now .
It does go through tyres quick!! Get the track days under you belt first then go from there, find the limit. Which I am sure you saw happens very quickly and abruptly. Go steady and enjoy it! 👍🏻👍🏻
Brilliant vid indeed, I have to agree! I've owned my M2 since back in May 2017, a car I'm for sure holding onto it's incredibly agile and you'll feel like you are in 100% control of your vehicle, which is epic. Booking a drift tutor on a track is a great and fun idea, however to get the hold off drifting in your M2 you won't need a track necessarily. It's such an easy car to just drift around town, calm back roads, parking lots! Start light and pick up the pace along with confidence! That's how I went about it anyways.
Best of luck with your M2 and drive it like a champ!
The fear in your eyes as Ben was taking you around the track was worth the price of admission 😆
Loved that 👍🏼
Best drift class video I’ve seen. Thanks very much
Thank you! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That was a great film! I’m getting my M2 comp end of month and can’t wait to bring it to the track! Thanks for the awesome tips!
Glad you enjoyed it!! 👍🏻
Enjoy you nee M2 when it arrives! 👌🏻
@3:18 this standing position is great when you are explaining something lol
what a nice video men, congrats from Spain
Thank you! Hope you enjoyed it. 👍🏻
Nice video bro and nice for having Ben in the video! Keep uploading and please make more vids with Ben!
Glad you liked it! Lots more with Ben coming in the future. 👍🏻
Haha what a legend, "POWAAA!!" 🤣🤣👍🏻
Awesome video!! Great content. Drifting is just one of my absolute favourite things.
Glad you enjoyed it!! 👍🏻👍🏻 thanks for watching.
I like the way Ben would rather stand in the rain than be in the car and give instruction ... smart thinking.!! :-)
Great video. Looks like loads of fun. Can't wait to try it.
Haha go steady! 👍🏻
I can highly recommend Ben Collins' books. Very entertaining and informative specifically "The Man in The White Suit" and "How to Drive".
Very likeable and relatable. Second video and subscribed.
Really glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for your support. 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video, thank you 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍🏻
Awesome!!
What a guy Ben is.. Great vid.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Power power power !!
thank you for sharing!
Good stuff, really enjoyed.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Great stuff 👍👊
Wonderful video. Enjoyed it a lot, big fan of B.C.. Didn't expect these bold drifts right away, not bad !
BMW POWER ❤🔥
So cool 🚗💨👌🔥
Great Stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍🏻
Off to eBay to look at M2 manual’s... ;)
I do that A LOT! 😂😂
Good stuff guys
I did three laps of Oulton Park drifting with one of the stigs it wA fantastic watching him throw the car around a Nissan
Bloody loved this!!!!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it! 💪🏻👍🏻
@@MotorflixSubscribed too 👍🏻
Good man! 👌🏻
Ok definitely need to download and pull up to watch and pause, try stuff, pause, retry etc
😂😂😂
I think the fact it was raining makes it that much more useful with a little common sense applied to the concepts. Parting out my Ps2 m235i coincidentally and this spec to an extent is what I’m getting. N55 sounds sooo sexual but you can get so much (MORE) without having to mod. No fuel controllers, no PI, no (better)HPFP , LPFP, decat,etc) with this. I think this spec is going to become one of those 25 yr gems. Not e46 💎, but gem. Just flash and void warranty 😜
🤙🏼 check out smoking tire I did when first got my f22. I’m no natural lol, just an audio engineer
th-cam.com/video/FHVEXEfSuBU/w-d-xo.html
What a legend !!!!!
Thank you 😂😂🤪
Awesome up load well jelly of you.
This is so awesome
Thank you! 👍🏻👍🏻
Loved this Video!👍😃
Keep your hands at 10 and 2 that will help a ton
Ben Collins is a super human! He is the only guy in the world who can drive a BMW to its limits! He loves BMWs
Damn bro and i got this as my first car
My F80 M3 Competition didn't resist losing grip and that was on PS4's! 😂
Did your dad teach you to drive?
Loved his cars back in the day…fair driver as well!
Great video. Compressor on the audio next time though...
x 2! Another vid with great content but zero sound mix
Sorry chaps. Audio levels weren’t right, only had the car for a day. Had to work with what I had. 👍🏻
Man that was a good video! Very informative.
Really glad you enjoyed it! 👍🏻👍🏻
if this M2 is build for grip which car would be better to try and drift? i'm kinda looking for an M2 Comp or an E9x M3
E9x M3 would be much easier! 👍🏻
Comfort won't change the handling, it's just for the heaviness of the steering.
There are settings for the dampers, power train and steering in an M2 CS. Comfort, sport and sport +. So comfort on the adaptive dampers does change the handling. 👍🏻👍🏻 normal M2 comp doesn’t have adaptive dampers.
Drifting is the purest form of driving, and It doesn't have to be rwd, it can be 4wd, long as its 600bhp plus with a diff bias 75% on the rear!
That was such a great video to watch!! Loved every second of it. What drive logic setting were you using? Efficient, comfort, comfort? Also were you using the second or third max shifting sensitivity?
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yes due to the weather the more sporty modes were too spikey, and the gears were on the 3rd max setting. 👍🏻
New show idea ! Ben Collins , Tiff needell and Chris Harris . What a show that would be !
Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me….. 🤣
maybe a longer wheel base would have helped you a bit at this kind of scenario
What I want to find out is, is it easier to do the drift and sliding with a manual m2 or an auto trans this whole thing looks very confusing and harder than I always thought as an m2 owner I have only done a few power slides but I am really scared to push the car this hard at the same time I feel like am missing the fun this ultimate machine I own 🙄
It is “easier” in a manual. What I suggest is start small at low speeds. As you become more comfortable build from there. 👍🏻
Amazing video
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! 👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻
easier in an e92 M3?
Great video but who would go out and buy a BMW M2CS to trash it on a track ? 😂 tyres are expensive to replace and so too is the drive train . So please can I borrow your car ? 😂😂
When he had it at 24.40, who else shouted ‘go on laddd’ ?
Haha I have no idea. I can’t hear that at all. 🤷🏻♂️
@@Motorflix it was me mate. Well happy for how you managed to pull it off 👌🏽
Haha o I see! Thanks pal, as you can tell I was more than happy with stringing three corners together! ✌🏻💪🏻
Beautiful car can i borrow it for a bit and have a go with the stig ill buy dinner
Those who can even afford it, even fewer could drive it at 50% of what is shown here….He has a one to one connection with that M2 CS….like a painter on a canvas.
Glad you enjoyed the film! 👍🏻👍🏻
It shows the m2 CS isnt made to drift. I think it would have been easier in a manual though
True, wet weather made it super knife edge on the limit. Damn good fun though! Hope you enjoyed the film👍🏻
4:10 why is that relevant for us the viewers? I don't care, I came for the drift lesson not for your test 😂
Because this was filmed in the depths of Covid, when you needed to have a test to be in a car with someone else and not wear a mask.....
@@Motorflix Okay, why did you need to state this in the video?
@@Stilo95 SO at the time I didn't get a load of people commenting saying we were doing something "illegal". Admittedly now it has no context but back then it did. 🤣
@@Motorflix Fair enough 😂
Screaming in the mic isn't the one..but great to see the pointers from Ben
O really how come? It seemed to work for me. 😂😂
@@Motorflix just the excitement was a bit loud compared to the rest of the audio..04:30 was one example..there were others.. just sounds like shouting on the mic and doesn't comes across on the speakers well as it's very loud compared to the rest of the audio..otherwise was a good video 👍
@@davidparker36 hmmm interesting. Good to know thank you for letting me know. Shall be cautious of it in future! Glad you enjoyed most of it! 👍🏻
Of course Ben strongest point is probably teaching after teaching all those celebrities to drive round the tg track.
He's not the Stig, he's the talking Ben Collins
This video could’ve been much better if you placed a gopro in the middle to see all the action
Believe it or not, I filmed it, edited it, produced it, directed it. I agree with you unfortunately batteries had other ideas.
Some say he knows why the chicken crossed the road.. others say he can actually touch MC Hammer.
I can confirm he doesn’t know why the chicken crossed the road, but he has touched MC hammer all over!! 😂😂
Jesus christ lads, how many ads do you need to try and cram into your videos!
On a side note, getting a day with Ben Collins is cool AF
Haha apologies but the film cost a lot to make, got to try and make some cash back somewhere. 😂
Lots more films with Ben in the pipeline! 👍🏻👌🏻
I don’t need a computer to tell me about my throttle response
My advice to people who wish to drift is high a skid pan and a coach then move to a track
He is not the Stig, he is the Stigs unmasked cousin.
He is the OG Stig. 😂
wow
There is no x stig. He will always be the stig😊
wow loved this channel it needs to be growing more like TOPGEAR
Thank you very much!! 👍🏻👍🏻
I don’t hear nothing what they saying
What do you mean?
@@Motorflix I think he means the talking parts are really quiet and actually hard to listen to at times. When the music cuts the volume drops to about 20% (especially noticeable at 1:30). In-car audio is not as bad though.
@@cw205mi16 very annoyingly walking up to the car there was some interference with one of the mics, only found out in the edit. It is only for 15 seconds or so though. Everything else was bang on the money. 👍🏻👍🏻 Hope you enjoyed the rest of it. 👍🏻
1:23 he can’t be that good. If that curb was a wall there would be no BMW left.
This is less drifting and more a grip racer nervously correcting for oversteer.
And also a good way to shorten the life of your car in about every respect. Look, let the TH-camrs do the crazy shit, so we can sit back and watch them abuse their own hardware.
This is a BMW press car, from their press department….. I am confused? Did you enjoy the film or not?
@@Motorflix I really enjoyed it! But man, doing that to your own car is crazy!
@General Nathan Bedford Forrest I'm not complaining or criticizing. You guys provide good entertainment.
now imagine some idiotic parent buying this to his kid.....Jesus
Bye bye kid! 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻 I bet there are a few damaged/mended ones out there now.
Step 1 - use someone else's car.
🤣🤣👍🏻👍🏻