Personally i think she delivers all lines with such ease and charm that for a moment you’d believe that it is exactly how this would have happened between brother and sister….. she’s done a fabulous job……. She deserves a standing ovation……..
We sometimes forget that Louis Mountbatten was Princess Alice’s brother. We also forget that their sister, Louise, was the Queen of Sweden as well. There was also the 2nd Marquess of Milford-Haven.
and they were the great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert, they were the children of Victoria- Marchioness of Milford-Haven (daughter of Alice who died earlier) and Prince Louis of Battenberg
I doubt many people who are interested in following the British monarchy would forget this... Prince Phillip as nephew to Louis Mountbatten was well connected...Prince Phillip may have been stateless but that doesn't make him less of a Royal. Though he was looked on by some with mistrust...for a good reason he was pretty racy as was his Father, Andrew of Greece... Apples and Trees. The interesting fact remains...Princess Alice was stone deaf...The makers of The Crown seem to have forgotten this...she was a prolific lip reader though but not when Louis Mountbatten's head is turns away or down?? Its also known she had a huge love and respect for her Daughter in Law...The Queen and for Royalty. So, I doubt very much if she would speak of her in such disrespectful terms.
The niece and nephew of the last Empress of Russia as well, and they would often visit--Alice's children were about the same age as Alexei, and Louis was born right between Maria and Anastasia, so they were very close. Louis even kept a photo of Maria by his bed until the day he died.
@@roddo1955 No, she said "doughty". It basically means "brave and persistent" but it's always used in a slightly sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek kind of way.
They only have this one scene together, but we still can feel their chemistry as siblings. Such a good and touching scene. They really are amazing actors.
Fun fact: These two actors appeared in the 1975 television series Edward the Seventh, Charles Dance as Prince Eddy, and Jane Lapotaire as Dagmar of Denmark, Empress of Russia. They never shared the screen in that one, but I found it interesting how they play siblings here and in the 1975 series as aunt and nephew.
She was outstandingly great in this series. She also has a small part in Downton Abby as a displaced Russian princess. She was incredible in that part, too.
Princess Alice deserves her own movie. Like Dietrich Boenhofer, she embodied the best of her religious faith, willing to risk her own life for others. I go to tears watching all the Princess Alice scenes in The Crown. Manly tears, mind you.
@Rhys Hoffman And then to the flashbacks of her being born deaf, her marriage to Prince Andrew of Greece, her exile, being a patient of Signmond Freud, but most importantly, her relationship with Philip and her contributions to those In need.
Everyone always forgets that she was the granddaughter of Princess Alice who was the daughter of Queen Victoria. People also always forgets that she was the niece of Tsarina Alexandra, the last Tsarina of Russia.
And in contrast, todays royal families "marry into the wild", into ordinary families (for the want of a better word ... no judgement on the intinsic worth of those families is intended) that have neither significance nor an interesting past. I think this dillution of the aristocracy is the final act of the concept of western monarchies and I will see the end of is institutions in Europe during my lifetime. I think the downfall of monarchies is sad (and personally, I think constitutional democracies are better for the contiries/societies in the long term then pure parliamentry/republican or presidential systems), but if the majority of the people wants total egality, there's no room a monarchy can exist. So lets scherish all those intricate intervowings o all the historic family trees while they still exist. ;)
@@arthurbautista1918 Actually she was created Countess of Battenberg in, I think, 1858. However, as a morganatic branch of the House of Hesse Darmstadt they do have a longer line.
Princess Alice was my FAVORITE character in season 3. Such grandmotherly wisdom, such a character. My second favorite was Princess Anne because she takes no guff.
poodtang2 the whole bit with her diamond had me laughing the police where like” this is fucking awkward “ my question is how did they know whom she was? .
@@kkandsims4612 They didn't; at least, not as well as what's depicted. No one would've known that much detail off the top of their head in the days before Wikipedia. It was just a Writer's Convenience.
Alice was the oldest child of Prince Louis of Battenberg and Princess Victoria of Hesse-Rhine while Louis (Lord Mountbatten) was the youngest. They outlived their parents and their other siblings. I think that adds more to the dialogue, the youngest brother coming to see his eldest sister, who gives him some important advice.
"Well, this is my country. Gave me a home, gave me a name, in return, I've given it my life. And to see it like this breaks my heart." This line touches my heart so much.
I thought she'd remind him that she'd remind him that she'd been living in Greece the last several years and remind him of the situation Greece was in.
Vanshita Gupta only two of her daughters marry Nazi officials. Also as German royalty didn’t have another chance. Margarita got Married with Bertold of Baden and there’s not any info about him getting into the Nazi Party. Kurt Hahn was a profesor in the Salem’s school owned by Bertold’s family so I don’t believe he was against Jews. Teodora’s husband saw active service in the Nazi side however he also participated in an attempt to kill Hitler and he was removed Cecile’s husband died with her two years before WW2 and months after they joined to the Nazis Sophie’s first husband was a high rank Nazi, she was the one most involved. He died at war. Sophie’s second husband didn’t had anything to do with nazism. But I agree... Philip’s family was disconnected.
3 intriguing observations: 1. Alice calling the Queen "the little girl" 2. People over 70 go from participants to spectators 3. They don't bother talking about Phillip
I know right! The little girl thing stuck out to me since Elisabeth was 43 by this scene, Queen for 17 years and the mother of teen-aged/young adult children. I guess in the minds of Alice and Louis Mountbatten she will always be a "little girl" since they saw her grow up
The part about participant to spectator caused me to think about how accurate that is in life. I'm still a few years from that number but can already see the transition occurring. As to Phillip, I think they did based on her genuine concern for his anguish.
This was a touching scene of not only eldest sister and youngest brother, but of the two remaining Battenberg siblings (with Queen Louise of Sweden dying in 1965 and George, 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven, dying in 1938). Yes, it featured mutual teasing and admonishment; the culmination came at the end (3:04) with Princess Alice comforting Lord Mountbatten by holding his hand. The acting was amazing. I did not see Jane Lapotaire and Charles Dance; I saw Princess Alice of Battenberg and Louis, Earl Mountbatten of Burma.
The ticking of the clock, the creaking bed, the pidgeons in the background. The subtle and delicate acting. This scene has a depth and frailty to it that makes it unforgetable. It is impossible to think that the actors are nót brother and sister. Beautiful.
Princess Alice wasn't like all the rest of the royals. She had a heart and a soul. She felt and that separates her from the rest. The way she grabbed her brother's hand after what he said and expressed how he felt shows she isn't like the rest. She genuinely and sincerely cared.
Sadly, Jane Lapotaire doesn't appear that much in movies and TV shows. I don't know if this is deliberate on her part. She had a brain surgery but that was over two decades ago. It's always Helen Mirren and Charlotte Rampling LOL! They're great but Jane is better I think.
"These days, I have nothing but time, and too little time" so well written! the dialogue, almost a foreshadowing of his fate. I will miss it when this series ends.
Me too, I always wonder why they haven’t made one as her life story was the stuff of novels -and she’s the epitome of the empowered woman, so in vogue these days.
This is one of my favorite scenes of the whole series. Of all the naughty royals and royal scandals, it's easy to forget the real "jewels" in the crown. Princess Alice was the diamond! I wish she had been featured more, in the show. She led a very interesting life, despite the many pitfalls.
Big sister having a wise conversation with her baby brother. I love them laughing about their young cousin and daughter/niece in law, Queen Elizabeth 2.
This is one of the very best scenes of the entire series. Very convincing and touching. All the better for having none of the other major players anywhere nearby. Excellent.
Jane Lapotaire is perfect as Princess Alice - cute, worldly-wise and so funny. She is 1 of the brightest lights in The Crown. Charles Dance is pretty perfect too.
When I was repeating this line, I got tears in my eyes, because this is what I feel about England and America. No joking, I teared up. That's how I love my countries so much. Because an Englishman is my identity, in America is where I live. I am split among them in a happy way.
@@MartinCanada So did 18 paratroopers on the same day. And the IRA statement predicted that the government would not give a shit about expendable soldiers.
He was found to be a pedophile (there were FBI files on him) and he had plotted to overthrow the Democratically-elected leader of his country. He was also on the front lines of the oppressive colonization of India. Let's not revise this man's history because of a fictionalized portrayal on Netflix. It's amazing what people will overlook because they're blinded by nationalism.
Princess Alice was quite a character. People were able to follow her around by the smell of her cigarettes. Once, when Ill, she refused to see a doctor, saying that she was far too ill to see one. When on the way to recovery she said that she was well enough to see the doctor. Her courage in the last war was rewarded by the state of Israel.
THE ACTRESS here ALSO PLAYED in 1975 MINNIE queen Alexandra’s younger sister in Edward the 7th she played Tzar Nicholas 2nd Mother and CHARLES DANCE PLAYED ALEXANDRAS OLDEST SON who sadly died of INFLUENZA he was first for the throne of Edwards children so they have met way before this and downton YOU CAN WATCH IT ON YOU TUBE Edward The Seventh it’s all on
They weren’t close at all. He never came to visit or rescue her from the insane asylum. That’s why she said “nice of you to find the time to visit”. You are just watching two people who are too old to hold grudges.
@@gavingavalli389 but he always found a way to give her help, sometimes she spend the money Mountbatten gave her to help others. Lady Pamela (lord Mountbatten’s daughter) said that in a podcast.
@@timx8236 I didn’t say they were enemies; I just said they weren’t that close and didn’t talk that often. Which is why she said “nice of you to have found the time”....... I’m sure he did help. But the other guy in the comments wished for a relationship with his sister just like that and I was like hold up lol .....
Forgive me, but its so weird seeing Charles Dance (Lord Mountbatten's actor) smile. Or let alone show this kind of affection. He is a wonderful actor. Notable for playing powerful and immovable characters. I've just gotten to know and have been fond of him as Tywin Lannister or as Lord Vetinari. Characters with ice and poison in their veins that their faces were carved from iron rather than flesh. Suffice to say, Charles Dance is an amazing actor and love seeing his skills be applied to other roles such as these. The lady who plays Princess Alice is also a lovely peach. Reminding me of my dearest late great grandmother above all else.
I always felt the humanity of Tywin Lannister in the show. He was ruthless yes but also capeable of mercy as with Arya. But most of all he was intelligent and disciplined. If he had been the king then Westerose would have had much better time of it in the long run. Tywin would have been a vety capable king.
Just imagine -- you and your sister , about that age, talking to each other, knowing your time was running out. Guess that feeling must be a little sad, a little bit sour, yet sweet. Thankfully your brother or sister is still with you till end of time... blood is thicker than water after all.
@@gabrioxxx I can feel you, if the life is a journey, no one will walk with us all the way, someone just left a little bit earlier, and we have to walk down the road by ourself, C'est la vie ...
@@kevinj2261 Terrible as it may be, we enter into life through a lonely struggle and we exit this life in a lonely struggle as well. In the middle the fortunate ones have the chance to experience the beauty of sharing
lololol! Charles Dance is superb in just about everything he does. Playing Louis Mountbatten as he is, he'll have to go through assassination again, since that is what happened to him among others aboard their boat, in 1979. Murdered by the IRA...
Tywin: You will rule the Highgarden. Princes Alice: My bestfriend Olenna is still there. Tywin: In one way...or another. Princess Alice: *light her cigarette
You know it’s really weird to realise that Alice is 15 years older than Louis, when I saw this scene between them I thought how must they were so close as children, but when he was like 8 year old boy, she was already married and had two daughters.
I'm 14 years older than my youngest sibling & we still banter. The Mountbattens were close as a family. Alice visited them in England as much as she could in the early years. Well, until she got sent to the mental facility & wars started breaking out. Their parents were a genuine love match, their dad Prince Louis of Battenburg was a very affectionate & loving man even though he often had to be away at Sea as a hot shot Navy Officer & their mom was a very hands-on parent (which was a bit unusual for Royalty & Aristocracy). They were also a beautiful, photogenic lot & you can tell that the two oldest kids Alice & Louise (later Queen of Sweden) doted on their baby brothers George & Louis. They all doted on Louis as the baby of the bunch. There's even a picture of Louis as a little boy with Alice's oldest daughters, who look closer in age to him than his siblings.
I'm 11 years older than my younger brother and adore him. He was basically my child (my mom wouldn't love that but it was how I felt) You have to want to be close with your family.
I keep forgetting that those people really were high-class immigrants. Including Prince Philip. I guess if you’re someone of status, it doesn’t really matter.
They aren't really immigrants. They are all descended from the House of Stuart by a marriage of 1612. Prince Philip was already a British citizen, even though he chose to take it formally. Under the terms of the 1705 Sophia Naturalisation Act, anyone who is descended from Sophia of Hanover, mother of George I, is automatically a British citizen.
They could have slid into obscurity like so many other German royals, but they proved their mettle and their value. Any royal family would have been happy to include them.
dhgemein2 And as I recall Philip’s sisters were not at his wedding because they were married to Nazis. The English got themselves into this ridiculous situation by their fanatical insistence that a Catholic never be the monarch.
This is the best scene in the entire series. This episode is about people mourning the decline of the empire, and some men who were unwilling to let it go. I love this scene because I think it captures the actual moment the empire died. It would have happened just like this, in the last holdout's heart.
When Mountbatten talks about the situation the country is in. Seems that every time period had its issues and it was never perfect. People often reminisce about 60s, 70s and 80s when those time periods had many of their own problems
Just think, these two went from an era where Europe was the center of the world, ruled by Kings and Empires, to becoming a small player dwarfed by the USA and USSR.
He'd say. "Don't be so foolish as to think there is anything worthwhile in presuming and conflating my view of Britain in the sixties, with the current situation. An excercize in futility and a sign of a lack of imagination."
@@roddo1955 don’t use words to cover up the social mess this country is in. It’s going to be Africa/Asia/Middle East soon. I won’t be surprised if there’s racial war, we have been suppressed in our country. It won’t last long you’ll see. Also feminist and left wing warriors must come to an end. Lord Mountbatten would have a heart attack if he was alive today, because it’s appalling.
@@bardgold4553 A Mountbatten does not concern himself with the opinions of a Lannister. Particularly not from one who could not keep is progeny in check and died with his pants down...
Miguel Carlo Barreda : Interesting fact about this actress. Her name is Jane Lapotaire. Back in the early 70's around 1973 I believe. She played the mother of the last russian tsar/emperor Nicholas II in a british tv mini-series about King Edward VII called Edward the King.
She was in Athens during the Second World War, sheltering Jewish refugees. After the war, she stayed in Greece and founded a Greek Orthodox nursing order of nuns. Here is a lovely life and it is good she is remembered.
Getting to see two legendary veteran actors, Jane Lapotaire and Charles Dance, share a scene together, let alone bring two historical figures like Lord Mountbatten and Princess Alice to life, is an absolute treat.
I hope Prince Philip now gets to rejoin his mother Princess Alice and his uncle Lord Mountbatten in the "world beyond" if there is one. RIP HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, HRH Princess Andrew of Greece and The Rt. Hon. 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma. Three great human beings!
This is so profound, one of the best scenes I've of this series. When she refers to them as the battenbergs, the name they gave up........phillip really readjusted himself back into the fray as a decendent of victoria and albert
Hardly. And we know where your opinion came from. Churchill was the icon and embodiment of British resistance to Nazi Germany. No monarch could have done what he did. Alice is a wise woman, but an unfortunate soul. Shes no Winston and certainly no Iron Lady
@@stephaniejaniczekssmugglerscan colonised countries/states won’t agree. Churchill is the man who advocated FOR colonialism!!! I guess it can either be 6 or 9 depending on where you’re standing.
@@stephaniejaniczekssmugglerscan Actually a monarch did do what Churchill did. His name was King George VI. The people who saved our nation were the soldiers who fought for it, not Churchill.
Princess Alice of Battenberg is the daughter of (Princess) Victoria Mountbatten. Victoria Mountbatten is the daughter of Princess Alice, Queen Victoria’s 3rd child. Queen Victoria -> Princess Alice of the United Kingdom -> Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine -> Princess Alice of Battenberg -> *Prince Phillip* Queen Victoria -> King Edward VII -> King George V -> King George VI -> *Queen Elizabeth II*
I love this scene.....their only scene together. Jeesh they should've had more Yes! Princess Alice deserves her own movie. Her line about the Battenbergs having no country....part German, part Greek (part Danish but yes, British also)part nowhere at all amused me. She herself never used the adapted name Mountbatten that her brothers and sister used. Her husband Andrew left her for his mistress. The clips on THE CROWN showing her younger self struggling with the schizophrenia are tough and when the family was reunited at Cecile's funeral, its heartbreaking. Philip's father shuns him and his mother can't recognize him. Charles Dance is one of those actors who can just say "Good Morning" and completely command your attention. His Lord Louis is sure lot more likeable than Tywin Lannister. I would would have loved for them to have talked more about the Mountbatten (AND WINDSOR) relations to the Russian Royals. The real life Anastasia was Alice and Louis' first cousin! (LATER NOTE....They do talk about the Romanovs in Season 5!)
Charles Dance & Jane Lapotaire are superb in their roles. I also think Gillian Anderson makes an excellent Margaret Thatcher. I didn't recognize her at 1st at all.
PRINCESS Alice was truly a great woman. She deserved so much more. I wish we would have seen her more with charities while she was alive. There are survivors from Jewish persecution with generations of families that owe their life to Princess Alice. She did what was right, not what was popular. Only discovering too late that every royal in the world should have been following her example. Bless Princess Alice.
The four Battenberg (later Mountbatten) children were: Princess Alice of Battenberg (Princess Andrew of Greece and Denmark after marriage) died at age 84 in 1969 Louise of Sweden (Queen of Sweden) died at age 75 in 1965 George, The 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven, died at age 45 in 1938 Louis, The 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma, died at age 79 in 1979 In 1917, during WW1, any German names that were associated with the Royal family were changed to more English ones because of rising Anti-German during that time. Battenberg was one of them.
@@triciajohansen7124 Except for Alice because she already left Britain by the time George V de-Germanize his family. So she never became Mountbatten and she empashizes "we the Battenberg".
@@triciajohansen7124 more on the insistence of King George VI who order him to renounce his Greek title and his belonging on the Danish/Greek House of Glücksburg and becoming Mountbatten in order to marry Elizabeth.
@@dodykusumanto8377 probably, but he did this since Louis was raising Philip, way before he married Queen Elizabeth II . Yes, Philip had to renounce his Greek Orthodox faith as well as his titles in order to marry her. That was NEVER in doubt!
Mountbatten talks about spending his life serving his adopted country & the state of that country at the time & the heartbreak he feels over it. All the time he gave defending something. Personally, I can relate. 4 generations of my family gave their blood, sweat & tears in defense of the US. To see the shape of the US today makes me feel as if we wasted it all for an ungrateful nation.
You know that scene reminds me of the one I the first season. With Queen Mary. Where an old wise woman laying in bed, smoking and lecturing the younger generation (or a younger sibling). Same atmosphere! This one of my favorite scenes in Crown. I've read about Lord Mountbatten and how much he've done for England. Love his phase: "This is my country. Gave me a position, gave me a name. And in return I've given it my life." Very strong and sad at the same time.
«The Battenbergs have no country. This familiy may have kings and queens in its ranks but we are mongrels too. Part German, part Greek, part nowhere at all» It broke me
This is one of my favorite scenes. There is much self-actualization in it, once you reach late middle age and stand on the precipice of being elderly. Sort of an aaaaaaah fug-it, they have to live here. 😂❤
“Oh who cares….honestly” she delivers that line with such charme and honesty!
Personally i think she delivers all lines with such ease and charm that for a moment you’d believe that it is exactly how this would have happened between brother and sister….. she’s done a fabulous job……. She deserves a standing ovation……..
With the tick-tock of the clock in the background is the Chef's kiss.
Exactly what I would say! Who cares? The Royals are nothing but drama! They should get a reality show and be done with it!
I have adopted her point of view ... with hopeful prayers for the next generations .
I love that Princess Alice laughs at the queen's scolding her brother ... they look like children laughing at
his
naughtiness , the acting is adorable
He was likeable in this scene
Good point, I didn't see that side of it initially but do now.
I thought the same. It's a lovely scene.
That little girl, what a hoot!!!! LOVED IT!!!! You go, girl, Princess Alice!!!!!❤❤❤❤
right? it seriously reminds me of my grandmother and her siblings when they were all still alive.
“You’re left, not me … I’m on the way out!”
OMG I LOVE her! 😂
We sometimes forget that Louis Mountbatten was Princess Alice’s brother. We also forget that their sister, Louise, was the Queen of Sweden as well. There was also the 2nd Marquess of Milford-Haven.
and they were the great-grandchildren of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert, they were the children of Victoria- Marchioness of Milford-Haven (daughter of Alice who died earlier) and Prince Louis of Battenberg
Not all of us. I was aware of that branch of relations.
I doubt many people who are interested in following the British monarchy would forget this... Prince Phillip as nephew to Louis Mountbatten was well connected...Prince Phillip may have been stateless but that doesn't make him less of a Royal. Though he was looked on by some with mistrust...for a good reason he was pretty racy as was his Father, Andrew of Greece... Apples and Trees.
The interesting fact remains...Princess Alice was stone deaf...The makers of The Crown seem to have forgotten this...she was a prolific lip reader though but not when Louis Mountbatten's head is turns away or down?? Its also known she had a huge love and respect for her Daughter in Law...The Queen and for Royalty. So, I doubt very much if she would speak of her in such disrespectful terms.
I did'nt forget. I can't forget things I did not know about
The niece and nephew of the last Empress of Russia as well, and they would often visit--Alice's children were about the same age as Alexei, and Louis was born right between Maria and Anastasia, so they were very close. Louis even kept a photo of Maria by his bed until the day he died.
"Did you get a dressing down from our doughty queen?" Love that line. That's a true sibling jab right there. 😉
I thought she said 'undoubted queen'. Highlighting the hilarity of being scolded by Lillibet.
@@roddo1955 No, she said "doughty". It basically means "brave and persistent" but it's always used in a slightly sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek kind of way.
The closed captioning had "dirty queen" 😖😖😖
I think she said "dowdy" which really describe QEII her whole life.
@@eingrica3270 look up dowdy, I think that's what she said.
They only have this one scene together, but we still can feel their chemistry as siblings. Such a good and touching scene. They really are amazing actors.
Fun fact: These two actors appeared in the 1975 television series Edward the Seventh, Charles Dance as Prince Eddy, and Jane Lapotaire as Dagmar of Denmark, Empress of Russia. They never shared the screen in that one, but I found it interesting how they play siblings here and in the 1975 series as aunt and nephew.
@@Trezeey Princess Alice and Lord Mountbatten were 15 years apart in age, so not a big leap that their actors could also play aunt and nephew.
Great acting indeed. Always makes me tear up!
Love this comment
@@Trezeey yes Charles was young then. Seems like they tamed up Prince Eddy's scandals and concentrated on KING Edward's scandals!
What a great actress - she really sells any scene she is in. Her facial expressions let you know exactly what sentiment is going to follow.
She should've been nominated for the Emmy...Outstanding Actress as Guest in Drama!!!
She was outstandingly great in this series. She also has a small part in Downton Abby as a displaced Russian princess. She was incredible in that part, too.
No great actress ‘ sells’ anything . She just plays the truth of every moment.
@@janel342 What does that even mean?
True! Even as Princess Kuragin in Downtown Abbey! Her expression was so communicative!
Princess Alice deserves her own movie. Like Dietrich Boenhofer, she embodied the best of her religious faith, willing to risk her own life for others. I go to tears watching all the Princess Alice scenes in The Crown. Manly tears, mind you.
Bonhoeffer really deserves his own movie.
@Rhys Hoffman And then to the flashbacks of her being born deaf, her marriage to Prince Andrew of Greece, her exile, being a patient of Signmond Freud, but most importantly, her relationship with Philip and her contributions to those In need.
Totally agree
100%!
@@richie9308 Also her saving a Jewish family from the Nazis during WW2.
Everyone always forgets that she was the granddaughter of Princess Alice who was the daughter of Queen Victoria. People also always forgets that she was the niece of Tsarina Alexandra, the last Tsarina of Russia.
and what is the real identity of the first princess of Battenberg, Julia Hauke?
Not all of us - I still am aware of the last two generations of my relations.
And in contrast, todays royal families "marry into the wild", into ordinary families (for the want of a better word ... no judgement on the intinsic worth of those families is intended) that have neither significance nor an interesting past. I think this dillution of the aristocracy is the final act of the concept of western monarchies and I will see the end of is institutions in Europe during my lifetime. I think the downfall of monarchies is sad (and personally, I think constitutional democracies are better for the contiries/societies in the long term then pure parliamentry/republican or presidential systems), but if the majority of the people wants total egality, there's no room a monarchy can exist.
So lets scherish all those intricate intervowings o all the historic family trees while they still exist. ;)
They also forget that she was born in Windsor Castle, in the presence of Queen Victoria.
@@arthurbautista1918 Actually she was created Countess of Battenberg in, I think, 1858. However, as a morganatic branch of the House of Hesse Darmstadt they do have a longer line.
Princess Alice was my FAVORITE character in season 3.
Such grandmotherly wisdom, such a character. My second favorite was Princess Anne because she takes no guff.
Agreed.
poodtang2 the whole bit with her diamond had me laughing the police where like” this is fucking awkward
“ my question is how did they know whom she was? .
@@kkandsims4612 They didn't; at least, not as well as what's depicted. No one would've known that much detail off the top of their head in the days before Wikipedia. It was just a Writer's Convenience.
Spot on!
I agree
Alice was the oldest child of Prince Louis of Battenberg and Princess Victoria of Hesse-Rhine while Louis (Lord Mountbatten) was the youngest. They outlived their parents and their other siblings. I think that adds more to the dialogue, the youngest brother coming to see his eldest sister, who gives him some important advice.
"Well, this is my country. Gave me a home, gave me a name, in return, I've given it my life. And to see it like this breaks my heart."
This line touches my heart so much.
And hers too!
As an American I really felt that lol
I thought she'd remind him that she'd remind him that she'd been living in Greece the last several years and remind him of the situation Greece was in.
He was a patriot. What would lord tywin do...0
@@nerdysportsfan9060 me too
One of the best acted dramatic scenes in recent memory. The line “it’s not our problem” resonates with me as I get older
I agree. I see problems coming that will not be in fruition for twenty or more years, and I won't be here!
Yup same here
Since I turned 60 this year, I’ve learned not to get worked up about the stuff I see on the news. This scene helped me do that.
It's exactly that mindset that fucks over future generations, though.
She was awarded ‘Righteous Among the Nations’ by Israel for saving a Jewish family from Nazis.
Well deserved.
@@vanshitagupta9327 Agreed.
Vanshita Gupta only two of her daughters marry Nazi officials.
Also as German royalty didn’t have another chance.
Margarita got Married with Bertold of Baden and there’s not any info about him getting into the Nazi Party. Kurt Hahn was a profesor in the Salem’s school owned by Bertold’s family so I don’t believe he was against Jews.
Teodora’s husband saw active service in the Nazi side however he also participated in an attempt to kill Hitler and he was removed
Cecile’s husband died with her two years before WW2 and months after they joined to the Nazis
Sophie’s first husband was a high rank Nazi, she was the one most involved. He died at war.
Sophie’s second husband didn’t had anything to do with nazism.
But I agree... Philip’s family was disconnected.
@@vanshitagupta9327 they were not Nazis, they were german who lived in Nazi-Germany and served (as a family tradition) in the german army.
Princess Alice is buried in Israel as per her request. Prince Philip saw to it that her wishes were carried out.
3 intriguing observations: 1. Alice calling the Queen "the little girl" 2. People over 70 go from participants to spectators 3. They don't bother talking about Phillip
I know right! The little girl thing stuck out to me since Elisabeth was 43 by this scene, Queen for 17 years and the mother of teen-aged/young adult children. I guess in the minds of Alice and Louis Mountbatten she will always be a "little girl" since they saw her grow up
The part about participant to spectator caused me to think about how accurate that is in life. I'm still a few years from that number but can already see the transition occurring. As to Phillip, I think they did based on her genuine concern for his anguish.
Unless you're Donald Trump.
@@iluop3623 At least Trump isn't immature enough to bring politics into a non-political video set more than 50 years ago ;)
@@jeremyong4646 your mummy
This was a touching scene of not only eldest sister and youngest brother, but of the two remaining Battenberg siblings (with Queen Louise of Sweden dying in 1965 and George, 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven, dying in 1938). Yes, it featured mutual teasing and admonishment; the culmination came at the end (3:04) with Princess Alice comforting Lord Mountbatten by holding his hand. The acting was amazing. I did not see Jane Lapotaire and Charles Dance; I saw Princess Alice of Battenberg and Louis, Earl Mountbatten of Burma.
The ticking of the clock, the creaking bed, the pidgeons in the background. The subtle and delicate acting. This scene has a depth and frailty to it that makes it unforgetable. It is impossible to think that the actors are nót brother and sister. Beautiful.
Princess Alice wasn't like all the rest of the royals. She had a heart and a soul. She felt and that separates her from the rest. The way she grabbed her brother's hand after what he said and expressed how he felt shows she isn't like the rest. She genuinely and sincerely cared.
This is what a call a master scene with giant extraordinary actors. Lovelly
Sadly, Jane Lapotaire doesn't appear that much in movies and TV shows. I don't know if this is deliberate on her part. She had a brain surgery but that was over two decades ago. It's always Helen Mirren and Charlotte Rampling LOL! They're great but Jane is better I think.
"These days, I have nothing but time, and too little time"
so well written! the dialogue, almost a foreshadowing of his fate. I will miss it when this series ends.
This woman lived a fascinating life. I wish there was a movie about her.
Me too, I always wonder why they haven’t made one as her life story was the stuff of novels -and she’s the epitome of the empowered woman, so in vogue these days.
This is one of my favorite scenes of the whole series.
Of all the naughty royals and royal scandals, it's easy to forget the real "jewels" in the crown. Princess Alice was the diamond! I wish she had been featured more, in the show. She led a very interesting life, despite the many pitfalls.
I like Alice’s speech. At some point in time, the world will pass us by. It’s better to find peace with the march of time.
Big sister having a wise conversation with her baby brother. I love them laughing about their young cousin and daughter/niece in law, Queen Elizabeth 2.
The beautiful Charles Dance plays the enigmatic Earl Mountbatten.
Earl Mountbatten of Burma to give his correct peerage title.
@@reggiebosanquet1525 Reggie Bosanquet is dead ! he was a famous newsreader for ITN.
Manner's maketh the man ! l'm quite aware of his full title thank you.
I love the scene when Princess Alice flying to UK and crying. Really can feel her painful of leaving the nunnery.
This is one of the very best scenes of the entire series. Very convincing and touching. All the better for having none of the other major players anywhere nearby. Excellent.
Jane Lapotaire is perfect as Princess Alice - cute, worldly-wise and so funny. She is 1 of the brightest lights in The Crown. Charles Dance is pretty perfect too.
So touched by Lord Mountbatten"s words. He really loves this country and would do anything to keep it safe.
When I was repeating this line, I got tears in my eyes, because this is what I feel about England and America. No joking, I teared up. That's how I love my countries so much. Because an Englishman is my identity, in America is where I live. I am split among them in a happy way.
The irony is that at the end LM fell victim to an assassin's bomb.
@@MartinCanada
So did 18 paratroopers on the same day.
And the IRA statement predicted that the government would not give a shit about expendable soldiers.
Including orchestrating a military coup and putting an end to the democracy of his nation?
He was found to be a pedophile (there were FBI files on him) and he had plotted to overthrow the Democratically-elected leader of his country. He was also on the front lines of the oppressive colonization of India. Let's not revise this man's history because of a fictionalized portrayal on Netflix. It's amazing what people will overlook because they're blinded by nationalism.
This might be one of my favorite scenes in the entire series. So touching and poignant, especially today. Charles Dance is a freaking icon. 🔥
Princess Alice was quite a character. People were able to follow her around by the smell of her cigarettes. Once, when Ill, she refused to see a doctor, saying that she was far too ill to see one. When on the way to recovery she said that she was well enough to see the doctor. Her courage in the last war was rewarded by the state of Israel.
She deserved better.
Israel's award is nothing compared to what this generous lady deserved
@@mohammedshafiqulislam7334 Based
@@mohammedshafiqulislam7334 What did she do in the war? I didn't watch the show.
@@robbie_ She rescued and hid Jews in her home in Athens during the war.
Doctors were not kind to her. I can imagine that she wouldn't like them.
I love this scene so much, I don't know what it is about the line "We're princess and prince of nowhere" that haunts me, but it does.
Princess Alice may you live for ever in History. I wish I had known more about you. You are a hero.
Princess Kuragin and Tywin Lannister having a chat lol
am late to the party and missing this reference 🤔🤔🤔
@@ej3016 Roles these actors portray from Downton Abbey and Game of Thrones respectively.
@@benjaminjohannessanchez3310 thnx - stopped watching Downton Abbey before she was on and haven’t watched any of GOT
THE ACTRESS here ALSO PLAYED in 1975 MINNIE queen Alexandra’s younger sister in Edward the 7th she played Tzar Nicholas 2nd Mother and CHARLES DANCE PLAYED ALEXANDRAS OLDEST SON who sadly died of INFLUENZA he was first for the throne of Edwards children so they have met way before this and downton YOU CAN WATCH IT ON YOU TUBE Edward The Seventh it’s all on
I hope my sister and I are that close when we’re in our 70s.
They weren’t close at all. He never came to visit or rescue her from the insane asylum. That’s why she said “nice of you to find the time to visit”. You are just watching two people who are too old to hold grudges.
@@gavingavalli389 ... Buzzkill
@@1andonlyzara sorry lmao they did die on good terms if it makes you feel better. Just wanted to be authentic lol
@@gavingavalli389 but he always found a way to give her help, sometimes she spend the money Mountbatten gave her to help others. Lady Pamela (lord Mountbatten’s daughter) said that in a podcast.
@@timx8236 I didn’t say they were enemies; I just said they weren’t that close and didn’t talk that often. Which is why she said “nice of you to have found the time”....... I’m sure he did help. But the other guy in the comments wished for a relationship with his sister just like that and I was like hold up lol .....
Charles Dance as Lord Mountbatten. Wow. And that actress playing Alice, muah. She is her replica. Like Alice was reborn to play this actress
The great Jane Lapotaire as Princess Alice.
"rest now princess alice of nowhere"
Sigh my heart
A lot of us remember her. Rest Beautiful Alice Princess of Greece 🇬🇷❤️🌈
Forgive me, but its so weird seeing Charles Dance (Lord Mountbatten's actor) smile. Or let alone show this kind of affection.
He is a wonderful actor. Notable for playing powerful and immovable characters. I've just gotten to know and have been fond of him as Tywin Lannister or as Lord Vetinari. Characters with ice and poison in their veins that their faces were carved from iron rather than flesh.
Suffice to say, Charles Dance is an amazing actor and love seeing his skills be applied to other roles such as these.
The lady who plays Princess Alice is also a lovely peach. Reminding me of my dearest late great grandmother above all else.
I always felt the humanity of Tywin Lannister in the show. He was ruthless yes but also capeable of mercy as with Arya. But most of all he was intelligent and disciplined. If he had been the king then Westerose would have had much better time of it in the long run. Tywin would have been a vety capable king.
Watch a young Charles Dance in the BBC period drama Edward the 7th it's about Queen Elizabeth's great grandpa.
This is quite possibly one of my favourite moments of the series. Alice always brings a different light to the scenes she's in.
I like Princess Alice now that I've found out more about her.
God the talent alone in this won the crown the Emmy that year
Just imagine -- you and your sister , about that age, talking to each other, knowing your time was running out. Guess that feeling must be a little sad, a little bit sour, yet sweet. Thankfully your brother or sister is still with you till end of time... blood is thicker than water after all.
You expressed it wonderfully. I wish I still had my only sister. Aging alone is not for sissies
@@gabrioxxx I can feel you, if the life is a journey, no one will walk with us all the way, someone just left a little bit earlier, and we have to walk down the road by ourself, C'est la vie ...
@@kevinj2261 Terrible as it may be, we enter into life through a lonely struggle and we exit this life in a lonely struggle as well. In the middle the fortunate ones have the chance to experience the beauty of sharing
Hold up Tywin Lannister
lololol! Charles Dance is superb in just about everything he does. Playing Louis Mountbatten as he is, he'll have to go through assassination again, since that is what happened to him among others aboard their boat, in 1979. Murdered by the IRA...
Tywin: You will rule the Highgarden.
Princes Alice: My bestfriend Olenna is still there.
Tywin: In one way...or another.
Princess Alice: *light her cigarette
I really love her performance, truly a great actress and character.
Amazing. Every character down to the smallest minute scene absolutely nails it.
You know it’s really weird to realise that Alice is 15 years older than Louis, when I saw this scene between them I thought how must they were so close as children, but when he was like 8 year old boy, she was already married and had two daughters.
well they were siblings regardless so there's a family bond.
There's still a bond. My oldest brother is over a decade older than me, yet we still banter like we grew up together.
I'm 14 years older than my youngest sibling & we still banter. The Mountbattens were close as a family. Alice visited them in England as much as she could in the early years.
Well, until she got sent to the mental facility & wars started breaking out.
Their parents were a genuine love match, their dad Prince Louis of Battenburg was a very affectionate & loving man even though he often had to be away at Sea as a hot shot Navy Officer & their mom was a very hands-on parent (which was a bit unusual for Royalty & Aristocracy).
They were also a beautiful, photogenic lot & you can tell that the two oldest kids Alice & Louise (later Queen of Sweden) doted on their baby brothers George & Louis. They all doted on Louis as the baby of the bunch.
There's even a picture of Louis as a little boy with Alice's oldest daughters, who look closer in age to him than his siblings.
I'm 11 years older than my younger brother and adore him. He was basically my child (my mom wouldn't love that but it was how I felt) You have to want to be close with your family.
How he is saying "nonsense" gives me warm shivers down my spine, if that is even a thing.
I keep forgetting that those people really were high-class immigrants. Including Prince Philip. I guess if you’re someone of status, it doesn’t really matter.
Lol yet still descendants of "royalty"
They aren't really immigrants. They are all descended from the House of Stuart by a marriage of 1612. Prince Philip was already a British citizen, even though he chose to take it formally. Under the terms of the 1705 Sophia Naturalisation Act, anyone who is descended from Sophia of Hanover, mother of George I, is automatically a British citizen.
They could have slid into obscurity like so many other German royals, but they proved their mettle and their value. Any royal family would have been happy to include them.
Except it did matter. Despite decades of loyal service, Alice's father was booted out of the British Navy during WWI because he had a German surname.
dhgemein2 And as I recall Philip’s sisters were not at his wedding because they were married to Nazis. The English got themselves into this ridiculous situation by their fanatical insistence that a Catholic never be the monarch.
This is the best scene in the entire series. This episode is about people mourning the decline of the empire, and some men who were unwilling to let it go. I love this scene because I think it captures the actual moment the empire died. It would have happened just like this, in the last holdout's heart.
the british empire essentially died in 1945. it just wasnt buried yet.
"I was no longer a participant rather a spectator, and it was just a matter of not getting in the way."
I agree. That's what is so affirming & thrilling about rare talent: you know it when you see or hear it.
When Mountbatten talks about the situation the country is in. Seems that every time period had its issues and it was never perfect. People often reminisce about 60s, 70s and 80s when those time periods had many of their own problems
some decades worse than others.
Most excellent and beautifully done acting that positively captures and conveys the loving, mature relationship between this late sister and brother.
Just think, these two went from an era where Europe was the center of the world, ruled by Kings and Empires, to becoming a small player dwarfed by the USA and USSR.
The USSR was part of Europe
There's no USSR anymore and if things keep going downhill the USA won't be a superpower anymore either
@@gnostic268 America is already declining and China is breathing down their neck
This actress also played another royalty in the 70’s tv series called Edward VII. She played Minnie, the mother of Nicholas II of Russia.
She was great in that
Two brilliant actors...
If Louis Mountbatten felt that Great Britain was a mess in the 1960s, I dread to think what he would say now.
He'd say. "Don't be so foolish as to think there is anything worthwhile in presuming and conflating my view of Britain in the sixties, with the current situation. An excercize in futility and a sign of a lack of imagination."
He would weep, as we should all.
@@roddo1955 Sounds more like Tywin than Mountbatten lol.
@@roddo1955 don’t use words to cover up the social mess this country is in. It’s going to be Africa/Asia/Middle East soon. I won’t be surprised if there’s racial war, we have been suppressed in our country. It won’t last long you’ll see. Also feminist and left wing warriors must come to an end.
Lord Mountbatten would have a heart attack if he was alive today, because it’s appalling.
@@bardgold4553 A Mountbatten does not concern himself with the opinions of a Lannister. Particularly not from one who could not keep is progeny in check and died with his pants down...
i love this actress playing Princess Alice ❤️
Miguel Carlo Barreda : Interesting fact about this actress. Her name is Jane Lapotaire. Back in the early 70's around 1973 I believe. She played the mother of the last russian tsar/emperor Nicholas II in a british tv mini-series about King Edward VII called Edward the King.
She was in Athens during the Second World War, sheltering Jewish refugees. After the war, she stayed in Greece and founded a Greek Orthodox nursing order of nuns. Here is a lovely life and it is good she is remembered.
I wish we could have had more scenes between these two.
Her laugh gets me every time 😄!!!
This series was fantastic. Great acting all around.
The acting of both artistes is simply superb
Getting to see two legendary veteran actors, Jane Lapotaire and Charles Dance, share a scene together, let alone bring two historical figures like Lord Mountbatten and Princess Alice to life, is an absolute treat.
Jane Lapotaire’s portrayal of Princess Alice is absolutely great!
I hope Prince Philip now gets to rejoin his mother Princess Alice and his uncle Lord Mountbatten in the "world beyond" if there is one. RIP HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, HRH Princess Andrew of Greece and The Rt. Hon. 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma. Three great human beings!
I love this scene. One of the best in season 3, if not all the seasons.
This is so profound, one of the best scenes I've of this series. When she refers to them as the battenbergs, the name they gave up........phillip really readjusted himself back into the fray as a decendent of victoria and albert
I think Princess Alice put more wisdom into 3 minutes of dialogue then any wisdom imparted from Winston in all of his episodes.
Hardly. And we know where your opinion came from. Churchill was the icon and embodiment of British resistance to Nazi Germany. No monarch could have done what he did. Alice is a wise woman, but an unfortunate soul. Shes no Winston and certainly no Iron Lady
@@stephaniejaniczekssmugglerscan I never said Winston wasn't an Icon but in the Crown he did not impart as much as wisdom as Alice did.
@@stephaniejaniczekssmugglerscan both Winston and Thatcher were horrible human beings
@@stephaniejaniczekssmugglerscan colonised countries/states won’t agree. Churchill is the man who advocated FOR colonialism!!! I guess it can either be 6 or 9 depending on where you’re standing.
@@stephaniejaniczekssmugglerscan
Actually a monarch did do what Churchill did. His name was King George VI. The people who saved our nation were the soldiers who fought for it, not Churchill.
Princess Alice of Battenberg is the daughter of (Princess) Victoria Mountbatten. Victoria Mountbatten is the daughter of Princess Alice, Queen Victoria’s 3rd child.
Queen Victoria -> Princess Alice of the United Kingdom -> Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine -> Princess Alice of Battenberg -> *Prince Phillip*
Queen Victoria -> King Edward VII -> King George V -> King George VI -> *Queen Elizabeth II*
I'm the oldest and have 4 brothers. I look forward to giving them much needed life advice before I pass 🥂
I think that actually a good goal tbh🙂😔
I love this scene.....their only scene together. Jeesh they should've had more Yes! Princess Alice deserves her own movie. Her line about the Battenbergs having no country....part German, part Greek (part Danish but yes, British also)part nowhere at all amused me. She herself never used the adapted name Mountbatten that her brothers and sister used. Her husband Andrew left her for his mistress. The clips on THE CROWN showing her younger self struggling with the schizophrenia are tough and when the family was reunited at Cecile's funeral, its heartbreaking. Philip's father shuns him and his mother can't recognize him. Charles Dance is one of those actors who can just say "Good Morning" and completely command your attention. His Lord Louis is sure lot more likeable than Tywin Lannister. I would would have loved for them to have talked more about the Mountbatten (AND WINDSOR) relations to the Russian Royals. The real life Anastasia was Alice and Louis' first cousin! (LATER NOTE....They do talk about the Romanovs in Season 5!)
This actress had 15 min at most of screen time but knocked it out of the park.
Charles Dance & Jane Lapotaire are superb in their roles. I also think Gillian Anderson makes an excellent Margaret Thatcher. I didn't recognize her at 1st at all.
Thank you for uploading this scene, truly.
PRINCESS Alice was truly a great woman. She deserved so much more. I wish we would have seen her more with charities while she was alive. There are survivors from Jewish persecution with generations of families that owe their life to Princess Alice. She did what was right, not what was popular. Only discovering too late that every royal in the world should have been following her example. Bless Princess Alice.
This is by far, my favorite character
The four Battenberg (later Mountbatten) children were:
Princess Alice of Battenberg (Princess Andrew of Greece and Denmark after marriage) died at age 84 in 1969
Louise of Sweden (Queen of Sweden) died at age 75 in 1965
George, The 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven, died at age 45 in 1938
Louis, The 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma, died at age 79 in 1979
In 1917, during WW1, any German names that were associated with the Royal family were changed to more English ones because of rising Anti-German during that time. Battenberg was one of them.
The name was changed to Mountbatten.
@@triciajohansen7124 Except for Alice because she already left Britain by the time George V de-Germanize his family. So she never became Mountbatten and she empashizes "we the Battenberg".
@@dodykusumanto8377 yes, I am sure she kept it that way, but her son was Mountbatten, probably on the insistence of Uncle Louis.
@@triciajohansen7124 more on the insistence of King George VI who order him to renounce his Greek title and his belonging on the Danish/Greek House of Glücksburg and becoming Mountbatten in order to marry Elizabeth.
@@dodykusumanto8377 probably, but he did this since Louis was raising Philip, way before he married Queen Elizabeth II . Yes, Philip had to renounce his Greek Orthodox faith as well as his titles in order to marry her. That was NEVER in doubt!
The writing is wonderfully honest, so human. Brilliant acting...then again, these two are the best and direction, editing... ah perfect.
Mountbatten talks about spending his life serving his adopted country & the state of that country at the time & the heartbreak he feels over it. All the time he gave defending something. Personally, I can relate. 4 generations of my family gave their blood, sweat & tears in defense of the US. To see the shape of the US today makes me feel as if we wasted it all for an ungrateful nation.
The last empress Russia was their aunt
Lord Mountbatten kept a photograph of his doomed cousin, Grand Duchess Maria, by his bedside all his life.
Imagine that....if they had married....how different history would be
And this is the moment I fell in love with Princess Alice of Battenberg, and did extensive research on her life.
God bless you lord Mountbatten
Princess Alice is horribly underestimated, even now. Really, her story should be studied and presented more- it’s really fascinating!
I love when she said "Oh, who cares honestly?"
The way this show deals with old people is one of the greatest things about it.
Mountbatten was always an explosive character, even at the end.
Great scene. Love the score.
2 elderly siblings having a tender moment
You know that scene reminds me of the one I the first season. With Queen Mary. Where an old wise woman laying in bed, smoking and lecturing the younger generation (or a younger sibling). Same atmosphere!
This one of my favorite scenes in Crown. I've read about Lord Mountbatten and how much he've done for England. Love his phase: "This is my country. Gave me a position, gave me a name. And in return I've given it my life." Very strong and sad at the same time.
I gotta get this series! Seeing some of the actors/actresses from Downton and Poldark is so nice, and the series itself is just GOOD.
«The Battenbergs have no country. This familiy may have kings and queens in its ranks but we are mongrels too.
Part German, part Greek, part nowhere at all»
It broke me
Damn, this woman can act! What a Master Class.
This really shows them as just a loving brother and sister
Waited for him to say "I always thought you were a stunted fool"
This is one of my favorite scenes. There is much self-actualization in it, once you reach late middle age and stand on the precipice of being elderly. Sort of an aaaaaaah fug-it, they have to live here. 😂❤
This part and the part when her son the prince finally knows the truth about his mother and goes and speaks to her. Best part of all of season 2
Season 3
Bubikins!
One of my favorite scenes from the season 3/4 stretch.
Tywin Lannister! Such amazing actor Charles!💕
I was looking for that scene ♥️