amazing again man, what I love is that you address the wider problems other tutorials dont mention like the difference in realism between 4k and 8k results. really appreciate this
It's rare to stumble across anything remotely as educational and effective as your tutorial. Things I've struggled with and never understood. This gives me tremendous confidence I can finally create dark, rich, realistic skin tones!
Great Tutorial! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. One Tip for the gnarly 3D Gradient: You can link it to null objects in your scene and control the start and end of the gradient via the null objects. Here is how: 1) Select XYZ pos of a Null-object 2) Rightclick onto this xyz-selection and select "Xpressions/Set Driver" 3) Select the "Start" parameter of your Gradient 4) Rightclick onto this selection and select "Xpressions/Set Driven(absolute)" 5) Set the "Space" Parameter of the Gradient (the one on the bottom) to World. Of course you have to do Step 1-4 also for the "End" Parameter of your gradient, but with another Null-object.
ONe thing i missed in the eyes is the dark edge and the soft fade from the iris to the sclera. I showed kinda harsh with no dark edge, made eyes look really cg. Atleast to me it did
@@NewPlastic Yeah but its hard when it below a reflection. Plus if done in the maps, now post work is needed. Doing it in the textures is always won time right. You do it once and you can reuse it vs doing it on every single render output
Is it possible to get the scene file without the model or texture files? I'm thinking it would then be possible to use materials as place holders. Then swap out with my own files? It's not that I'm too lazy to follow the tutorial, I'm just getting lost! haha. Thanks!
Fantastic tutorial. I have never used black skin in any of my projects as they have always looked like darkened cardboard when I tried. I will now try it again though! Many thanks!!!
Thanks a lot for your tutorial, been months trying using composite material for skin and still can't get the realistic and yours kinda the easiest one to achieve realistic one!
That's great to hear, yeah a lot of the times trying the more complex way gets you worse results! Check out my previous skin tutorial where I show another method which sometimes works even better. It involves the Mix Material, and the reason I didn't use it here is because if I had to use Mix materials on every part of the body I would end up with TENS of materials. That can be an Issue if you're working with several Daz models in your scene.
Absolutely, I have a very extensive afro-textured hair tutorial coming today/tomorrow with follow ups after ! I also have another 2 skin texture tutorials on my channel so feel free to check!
been following ur stuff for a while but just saw this video and noticed that you're israeli by how you mispelled iris as ןרןד LMFAO, really unexpected, your accent is perfect!!
Why not try the DaztoBlender method. That uses the FBX export as a base with much added code. Then you do get the rig. You could always use the FBX exporter as well. But you still need to manually do the materials anyways
I use C4D so I tried using the DaztoCinema bridge. It does export the poses and all that well, but doing a horrible job with materials. So all the materials have to be redone manually.
@@NewPlastic I'dd setup custom basemats, then import those. Thats saves a ton of work, than adjust what you need. All the relink and stuff is quite nice in c4d. The fact that you can relink a complete selection made outside c4d is so handy!
Me too brother, but after doing it once I just copy the materials to another project and replace the image textures with ones from the other model I'm working on, and adjust the settings according to the new maps. Still a major bitch to do tho but aye if it ends up looking good, I guess it's worth it!
Thanks once again! I would love to see some more DAZ Studio tutorials in the future - do you have some good resources on how to get started with DAZ? Love your tutorials man!
Hey, I'm in no way someone who can really go deep into Daz tutorials as I'm pretty new to the program and mainly just use it for character creating and posing. I do all the work in C4D so that's why I focused on the material conversion which I spent a long time figuring out. For Daz tutorials I would check out the Daz3D youtube channel, and Parmey Baddhen's channel, but generally I just google or youtube search what I need to know. The Daz forums have a lot of insights too.
Thanks dude! Some models have textures that show more seams than others, you can try and paint the edges of the texture in photoshop to remove that white. Or try to add hair and hide those seams. Honestly beyond that there's not much you can do, because that's how the textures were made!
Bro! I replace entire eyeball there I mean I saw long time ago SioPio tutorial realistic eyeball and I created accordingly when I tried daz models into cinema 4d I started to experiment replacing objects so with model I removed her eyball and replace with eyeball which I created. Anyway your Tutorials are amazing... I loved the way you give detail on skin
That makes sense because the lighter the Albedo is, the less Transmission you'll have. Check out the other skin tutorial I have where I use a light skin, I'm sure you'll get better results from that. It's very similar but there are some differences.
Well, the only way to fix it is to manually adjust your materials! The bridge doesn't work so well for textures. That's really why I made this tutorial
Im doing a Daz model in Blender, but i kinda went haywire and now its some ptich black lady with super bright blue eyes and silver hair hahaha PS that hair you added looks sick man!
Hah yeah those Daz bridges don't really handle textures well - which is why I made this tutorial. You gotta do it yourself to get the best results! And yeah I Feel you about the skins, I think many skins suffer from too much SSS in the wrong areas and too glossy. I understand why tho, glossy stuff just looks so much better in render engines today - it's hard to make matte materials look as good. So fuck it, gloss it up! But with skin the glossyness is very specific, it's kinda shiny but kinda not. So difficult to make it - I still struggle even after knowing how to do it! And feel free to check out my hair tutorial!
@@NewPlastic Yeah to get best result you need to work with reflection/specular map and roughness/glossiness map. They work together to mare a more realistic look. Well the Blender bridges does exoort everything to blender flawlessly. it sets up super nice rig. And soso material. But all maps are linked thats a plus. PS i found this thread with 2 people providing scripts which gathers all maps into a folder. A third person added an Alembic Exporter which also work nice ill paste the link in the next comment. You tube keeps deleting comments now and then with links. That way i only have to update that comment and not rewrite this complete message
@@NewPlastic here is that thread www.daz3d com/forums/discussion/386421/help-solution-for-collecting-all-maps-from-a-ds4-scene/p1 I post it like this otherwise youtube delete the mesage
you have a Normal map in your texture I tried to export the model from Daz3d but it didn't give me a Normal map Could you please share all the textures?
In the beginning of the tutorial I show how to locate your Daz3D texture images on your hard drive, and you can just get all the maps from there. If you can't find the normal map there then maybe that model doesn't have a Normal map?
do you work with blender aswell? would be cool to know how to apply these techniques in blender.. tho i guess i would have to use octane as renderer aswell.. still super impressive results u got there oO.. love your stuff man!
Love you too bud! I actually don't really work with blender. I'm sure some stuff will be very similar and some stuff very different when trying to texture a daz model.
oh, the video turned out to be very interesting! I have one question. Is this method suitable for working with most of the models from DAZ? Yes, I understand that some maps will have to be done manually, since not all models have, for example, a Normal map for the eyes
Appreciate that comment! I use this method for all my models (I have worked with about 8 different ones, males and females, all colors, using default maps as well as Skin Builder). The biggest factor when it comes to customizing the workflow is the skin color - different skin colors will require different color corrections, and also different color/density for SSS. Beyond that, each model has it's own approach to bump maps/normal maps so some I have to tone down more than others. I also found myself manually adding color variation on the Albedo maps if I find the maps to be too bland or too weird (one male model I have, Erik, has very dark red hue around his eyes and I made a map where I toned it down in Photoshop). As far as eyes go, I feel like unless you go extremely close up to the eyes, I noticed that bump/normals maps on them barely make a difference. So yeah the method is pretty much the same, but the settings definitely change. That's why I said in the last one it's all knowing the overall method and then going with your eyes and seeing the difference as it depends on your maps, your model and your lighting. That's also why I don't necessarily tell you exactly what numbers I put in, but I try to explain how I think about each move I make.
@@NewPlastic Yes, I realized that when I watched your video. I just decided to clarify this question, but I was just thinking about it that models, maps have a different approach, but thank you very much for such a detailed answer and also thank you for such tutorials, it was very interesting to watch it Have a nice day man
The workflow would be sort of the same, it depends on the maps the model provides for you. The biggest difference would be in the color correction for the skin and the Transmission strength (and sometimes density/color of SSS). Darker albedo channels have more pronounced Transmission so with lighter skins you want to go stronger on the Transission channel (which means brighter colors/higher values plugged into the Transmission node)
Can i ask, does the scaling of the model makes a difference? When merge a daz3d obj in the scene comes out really tiny, what would be the ideal size to transform it? Thanks again for the great content.
@@nia995 Hey, so I actually covered it in the video but I now see that I accidentally cut that part out of the video, I'm not sure why it's not there! I feel stupid now :) Yes! Correct scaling is super important. You wanna use real-life scale (so about 180cm height, or any height you want that's realistic). The easiest way is to place a "Figure" model from the Primitive menu (When you press the Cube, you can see the Figure in that menu). That figure is by default 180cm tall, which is the average human size. If you scale your imported model to be about the size of that figure you'll be good!
@@nia995 And I have two 2080ti's , Threadripper 2920x, and 128gb RAM. Also have 1tb RAID-0 SSD for my main drive, another 1tb SSD for my projects, and 1tb SSD for my cache files (AE, Premiere, X-Particles, RealFlow, etc). Also another 5tb external drive for archiving projects I'm done with, but I fill it up every few months :)
these are epic tutorials, my guy just a quick 1. When your exporting from Daz to cinema4d is their a method that you use? like, do you take the images into photoshop or another software to adjust any of the image contrast or dial down the edges at all as you seem to get such crisp seams and there never seems to be a fault as I cannot import it from Daz to cinema4d cause it's not supported with r23... I have these strange artifacts and edges that never seem to join together as seamless as yours. I cannot progress with the characters any further. Please do you know any resolve for this? is their some setting that I should be using to prevent this?
Thanks again buddy! So in the beginning of the tutorial I show my export settings from Daz to OBJ. Then I just import it to C4D. Are you trying to export an animation or a still pose? As for photoshop, I don't touch up the textures in photoshop, unless, there's something specific that I want to do like add tattoos or alter specific parts of the skin. Do the seam happen on the edges of the texture maps? Or are they all ripped apart randomly across the model?
@@NewPlastic im a real noob at all this so im not sure. Mate is their anyway you could do a dummies guide as you have a way with explaining things. It would be so helpful to just get a quick tut on the process and how you go about dialing in the settings as you seem to get nice materials and a daz to cinema4d just like you did with this but the daz part... id be really grateful mate as i want to get alot better too and your teaching me and everyone alot the detailed explanations are just refreshing
@@unityinfusionmedia9102 Yo! I totally understand. I actually don't even touch the materials in Daz, I just load in the model, use the poses and expressions I want and export it as OBJ just like I showed in the beginning of this video. I have a feeling maybe your problem has to do with the model you're using? If you want you can send me the exported model and I'll test it out on my computer.
Yes absolutely, when you import the model to c4d, you have the option to cover the materials to Octane, but the plugin is doing a horrible job at that. So you can just can just use the plugin to import the model and re-texturize manually with this method.
hahah i used those exact same iris photos, yet i believ it was from some one else. I do recognize those photos though. It had around 100 pretty good res photos, i got themm all now :)
I notice that there are some seam lines between different body part, like the line between face and torso. But when I only use the diffuse/specular maps from daz, without normal/randomwalk/micro normal that kind of stuffs, they are seamless. How can you fix this issue?
Yeah there are different reasons for that. First, a lot of the times there's one different parameter between the two textures that makes the seam apparent. So it's important to make sure everything is absolutely identical - the Gamma on spec/roughness maps, the coating layer settings, etc. It's easy to miss the small stuff when there's so many settings to worry about. Second, the Micro-Normal map will spread differently since the UV maps are different. They stretch more on the torso textures. Try turning off the Micro-Normal only and see if it helps. If it does, try scaling down the micro=normals on the torso until they match. Third, usually that part is covered with hair, which is why I didn't worry about it in the tutorial. That's probably the easiest way to high that seam :) I've done 2 hair tutorials for afro-textured hair that you're welcome to check out!
@@NewPlastic I fixed it by turning bump map way down.I tried the normal/micro normal way, didn't work. I still don't know why, cuz my tex balls are directly duplicated from the orignal one. MOST importantly, your method of adding coating layers with micro-normal is GENIUS!! I don't want to lose that levelof details. Your DAZ-C4D texture ball setting is perfect! I searched lots of tutorials before, those methods always look unnatural, especially eyes. Hope you post more about DAZ - C4D content! Your're the BEST!
@@deswzc4091 Yeah I think I know what you're talking about and that's just an issue with the some texture maps that come with the model - but it only really shows in closeups no? And thanks! Yeah I was excited when I discovered it as well, the coating layer really adds a lot of specular realism and the micro normals add more subtle details that the texture maps dont hold. And yeah I did end up adding a little bit of hair to the cloth, just to go with the whole realism vibes in this video! :)
Really appreciate your support sir! I'm still at a stage where I want to give out free information to the community and share what I know. That's how I learned almost everything I know, from free tutorials! But in the future if I see that creating this content can be a full time thing, I'll have to figure out a way to monetize it so I can pay rent :) When we get to that bridge, we'll know how to cross it
Can you pleeease make hair tutorial? I spent so much time and cant get anyhting near this results. Maybe a tutorial for curly fro with short sides? Maybe make a patreon for it. The hair results look really good!
Stay put, I deeply understand the struggle. I want the tutorial to be useful and good so I'm still figuring out the best ways to show the process. It's coming real soon!
Doesnt that engine have an issue using a bump and a normal map together? I remember some other engine i used, using them both they worked against each other. I hardly to never use regular bump since there is just not enough info for the engine to show the effect properly
Actually no they work really well together! Normal maps will always be better and more efficient so they're better for more detailed texture, and bump can just be an extra layer of generic details. Never enough details!
@@NewPlastic Ah okay, i know some engines have issues with it. Same as when using normalmap + displacement. Sometimes they dont go well together and you see weird shading effects
How did you get the bump, normal, glossy maps out of day studio as it doesn't give you any but the body maps ?.... do you import it to photoshop or another software and generate them or make them your self?.
Hey, so good quality models will have all those maps stored, but they won't export with the obj. You'll need to manually find them and I show how to do that at 03:14 in this video. But if your model doesn't have those maps, then yeah you can create them yourself - Travis Davids has a great tutorial on how to do that. Here's a link th-cam.com/video/U1xN9zvlC3Q/w-d-xo.html
Hey damn I'm just seeing this comment, The micro normals you can get from the free model I used in the tutorial previous to this one called "The Ultimate Skin Tutorial". There's a micro-normal image map packaged with that model. I also show how to create a procedural micro-normal map on my "Cartoon Skin" tutorial. Check it out!
Haha yessir! I mentioned it when I made the 3d gradient to decrease the SSS from her nose, for some reason I just chose to keep it procedural but yeah you can totally just paint in your SSS map.
amazing again man, what I love is that you address the wider problems other tutorials dont mention like the difference in realism between 4k and 8k results. really appreciate this
Yup just really mentioning everything I picked up in my own struggles of getting good results
It's rare to stumble across anything remotely as educational and effective as your tutorial. Things I've struggled with and never understood. This gives me tremendous confidence I can finally create dark, rich, realistic skin tones!
Bro you're the GOAT of tutorials!
Appreciate you my brother, too kind
Great Tutorial! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. One Tip for the gnarly 3D Gradient: You can link it to null objects in your scene and control the start and end of the gradient via the null objects. Here is how:
1) Select XYZ pos of a Null-object
2) Rightclick onto this xyz-selection and select "Xpressions/Set Driver"
3) Select the "Start" parameter of your Gradient
4) Rightclick onto this selection and select "Xpressions/Set Driven(absolute)"
5) Set the "Space" Parameter of the Gradient (the one on the bottom) to World.
Of course you have to do Step 1-4 also for the "End" Parameter of your gradient, but with another Null-object.
DUDE! Never heard of that method. That sounds awesome af I gotta try it. Thank you!
Fuck yes this is the black skin tutorial we all needed! Thanks so much for your videos and sharing your knowledge man!
You're more than welcome, I did find it weird that there's not really any tutorials on black skin on youtube!
ONe thing i missed in the eyes is the dark edge and the soft fade from the iris to the sclera. I showed kinda harsh with no dark edge, made eyes look really cg. Atleast to me it did
I totally get you, I would just blur our the edges in Photoshop, I've been doing it on newer models I've been working on.
@@NewPlastic Yeah but its hard when it below a reflection. Plus if done in the maps, now post work is needed. Doing it in the textures is always won time right. You do it once and you can reuse it vs doing it on every single render output
Awesome!! African hair will be dope to learn a bit more
I agree, once I figure out the nooks and crannies of the process I'll make a whole tutorial on it
Is it possible to get the scene file without the model or texture files? I'm thinking it would then be possible to use materials as place holders. Then swap out with my own files? It's not that I'm too lazy to follow the tutorial, I'm just getting lost! haha. Thanks!
been waiting 👓🤍
you are the best..always doing useful stuff
Omar! My man!
This is wonderful. I believe with this I will finally change my Thumbnail to a more learned one.
Happy to hear! We always learning here
just a big thanks you help me so much, keep going like this with your tutorials
Thank you for watching and learning Tanya!
I will love an Eyes tutorial for Octane !
Fantastic tutorial. I have never used black skin in any of my projects as they have always looked like darkened cardboard when I tried. I will now try it again though! Many thanks!!!
Yup the small differences make a big impact on the look, that's why I felt like I needed to put this out there! Thank you!
Thanks a lot for your tutorial, been months trying using composite material for skin and still can't get the realistic and yours kinda the easiest one to achieve realistic one!
That's great to hear, yeah a lot of the times trying the more complex way gets you worse results! Check out my previous skin tutorial where I show another method which sometimes works even better. It involves the Mix Material, and the reason I didn't use it here is because if I had to use Mix materials on every part of the body I would end up with TENS of materials. That can be an Issue if you're working with several Daz models in your scene.
Instant sub! Great man job man. Where can I find that micro normal?
Nvm, I got it
Thank you buddy, and glad you found it.
Tons of information! Thank you so much!
Great to hear!
hello, love your videos, I would love to see more videos like this, about skin texture and hair, etc...
Absolutely, I have a very extensive afro-textured hair tutorial coming today/tomorrow with follow ups after ! I also have another 2 skin texture tutorials on my channel so feel free to check!
been following ur stuff for a while but just saw this video and noticed that you're israeli by how you mispelled iris as ןרןד LMFAO, really unexpected, your accent is perfect!!
This is amazing tutorial man! Thanks for sharing this!
Why not try the DaztoBlender method. That uses the FBX export as a base with much added code. Then you do get the rig. You could always use the FBX exporter as well. But you still need to manually do the materials anyways
I use C4D so I tried using the DaztoCinema bridge. It does export the poses and all that well, but doing a horrible job with materials. So all the materials have to be redone manually.
@@NewPlastic I'dd setup custom basemats, then import those. Thats saves a ton of work, than adjust what you need. All the relink and stuff is quite nice in c4d. The fact that you can relink a complete selection made outside c4d is so handy!
Great Daz to C4D Octane tutorial! I wish it were a much more simple process.
Me too brother, but after doing it once I just copy the materials to another project and replace the image textures with ones from the other model I'm working on, and adjust the settings according to the new maps. Still a major bitch to do tho but aye if it ends up looking good, I guess it's worth it!
thank you for this, please does anyone have the link to the micro normal map that was created in previous tutorials?
Interesting bro
yezzir!
Thanks once again! I would love to see some more DAZ Studio tutorials in the future - do you have some good resources on how to get started with DAZ? Love your tutorials man!
Hey, I'm in no way someone who can really go deep into Daz tutorials as I'm pretty new to the program and mainly just use it for character creating and posing. I do all the work in C4D so that's why I focused on the material conversion which I spent a long time figuring out.
For Daz tutorials I would check out the Daz3D youtube channel, and Parmey Baddhen's channel, but generally I just google or youtube search what I need to know. The Daz forums have a lot of insights too.
Hi, love your tutorials, do you know why I get seam lines in my mesh? Like the face with head and ears get a "contour" line.
Thanks dude! Some models have textures that show more seams than others, you can try and paint the edges of the texture in photoshop to remove that white. Or try to add hair and hide those seams.
Honestly beyond that there's not much you can do, because that's how the textures were made!
damn, trying to fix this myself ... not happening lol.
It would be great if upload how to do this hair pleaseeee!
I definitely am planning on one in the following weeks! Maybe even sooner
@@NewPlastic Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BEAST
Thank you my guy!
Bro! I replace entire eyeball there I mean I saw long time ago SioPio tutorial realistic eyeball and I created accordingly
when I tried daz models into cinema 4d I started to experiment replacing objects so with model I removed her eyball and replace with eyeball which I created.
Anyway your Tutorials are amazing... I loved the way you give detail on skin
That's a great tip, probably will be a but frustrating if youre working with a rigged model but I'm sure the fix isn't that difficult.
I'm having some trouble getting the Transmission layer to show up while using a Caucasian character. Would a mix material work better in that case?
That makes sense because the lighter the Albedo is, the less Transmission you'll have. Check out the other skin tutorial I have where I use a light skin, I'm sure you'll get better results from that. It's very similar but there are some differences.
can you make same video with daz octane plugin?
nice tutorial man !! i used daz to c4d bridge and when i convert the materials in octane material it turns out black and glossy, how can i fix it?
Well, the only way to fix it is to manually adjust your materials! The bridge doesn't work so well for textures. That's really why I made this tutorial
@@NewPlastic got it, thank you !
Im doing a Daz model in Blender, but i kinda went haywire and now its some ptich black lady with super bright blue eyes and silver hair hahaha
PS that hair you added looks sick man!
Nice to see you actually use a more dull skin, i see so many renders where the characters eems to be sweating like crazy
Hah yeah those Daz bridges don't really handle textures well - which is why I made this tutorial. You gotta do it yourself to get the best results!
And yeah I Feel you about the skins, I think many skins suffer from too much SSS in the wrong areas and too glossy. I understand why tho, glossy stuff just looks so much better in render engines today - it's hard to make matte materials look as good. So fuck it, gloss it up! But with skin the glossyness is very specific, it's kinda shiny but kinda not. So difficult to make it - I still struggle even after knowing how to do it!
And feel free to check out my hair tutorial!
@@NewPlastic Yeah to get best result you need to work with reflection/specular map and roughness/glossiness map. They work together to mare a more realistic look.
Well the Blender bridges does exoort everything to blender flawlessly. it sets up super nice rig. And soso material. But all maps are linked thats a plus.
PS i found this thread with 2 people providing scripts which gathers all maps into a folder. A third person added an Alembic Exporter which also work nice
ill paste the link in the next comment. You tube keeps deleting comments now and then with links. That way i only have to update that comment and not rewrite this complete message
@@NewPlastic here is that thread
www.daz3d com/forums/discussion/386421/help-solution-for-collecting-all-maps-from-a-ds4-scene/p1
I post it like this otherwise youtube delete the mesage
@@RomboutVersluijs Script looks super interesting I'll check it out! I'm such a Daz noob. Thanks dude!
Please make a video how to correctly render white skin on models from DAZ to C4d with octane. Please😺
Hi thank you for your tutorial i' learning a lot
My pleasure !
What make you say what is a good model from a bad model ?
you have a Normal map in your texture I tried to export the model from Daz3d but it didn't give me a Normal map Could you please share all the textures?
In the beginning of the tutorial I show how to locate your Daz3D texture images on your hard drive, and you can just get all the maps from there. If you can't find the normal map there then maybe that model doesn't have a Normal map?
Fantastic!!
Wow
insane bro
Thank you bro!
This is sick asf. WIsh it was a tad slower but still fire.
Where did you get the Eye normals?
Where can i find the Genesis textures?
If you're asking where the texture files are located on your computer, I show that around 3:14 how you could locate them
I want to know how to make eyes of daz3d Genesis9 with cinema4d octane. Can I ask you to do me a favor
What's the difference between previous Genesis? I haven't checked out Genesis9 yet
@@NewPlastic There's been modeling and texture changes
do you work with blender aswell? would be cool to know how to apply these techniques in blender.. tho i guess i would have to use octane as renderer aswell.. still super impressive results u got there oO.. love your stuff man!
Love you too bud! I actually don't really work with blender. I'm sure some stuff will be very similar and some stuff very different when trying to texture a daz model.
Thank you for this
You're welcome !
Just want to say I love your tutorials so much , they have helped me a ton so thank you! struggling abit with my daz3d workflow , any advice for that?
oh, the video turned out to be very interesting!
I have one question. Is this method suitable for working with most of the models from DAZ? Yes, I understand that some maps will have to be done manually, since not all models have, for example, a Normal map for the eyes
Appreciate that comment!
I use this method for all my models (I have worked with about 8 different ones, males and females, all colors, using default maps as well as Skin Builder).
The biggest factor when it comes to customizing the workflow is the skin color - different skin colors will require different color corrections, and also different color/density for SSS.
Beyond that, each model has it's own approach to bump maps/normal maps so some I have to tone down more than others.
I also found myself manually adding color variation on the Albedo maps if I find the maps to be too bland or too weird (one male model I have, Erik, has very dark red hue around his eyes and I made a map where I toned it down in Photoshop).
As far as eyes go, I feel like unless you go extremely close up to the eyes, I noticed that bump/normals maps on them barely make a difference.
So yeah the method is pretty much the same, but the settings definitely change. That's why I said in the last one it's all knowing the overall method and then going with your eyes and seeing the difference as it depends on your maps, your model and your lighting. That's also why I don't necessarily tell you exactly what numbers I put in, but I try to explain how I think about each move I make.
@@NewPlastic Yes, I realized that when I watched your video.
I just decided to clarify this question, but I was just thinking about it that models, maps have a different approach, but thank you very much for such a detailed answer and also thank you for such tutorials, it was very interesting to watch it
Have a nice day man
Amazing! would love the same tutorial for Daz caracters but for white skin, or does the previous one work too? because you used a 3D scan
The workflow would be sort of the same, it depends on the maps the model provides for you. The biggest difference would be in the color correction for the skin and the Transmission strength (and sometimes density/color of SSS). Darker albedo channels have more pronounced Transmission so with lighter skins you want to go stronger on the Transission channel (which means brighter colors/higher values plugged into the Transmission node)
Can i ask, does the scaling of the model makes a difference? When merge a daz3d obj in the scene comes out really tiny, what would be the ideal size to transform it? Thanks again for the great content.
Also curious about your pc specs 🙏🙏
@@nia995 Hey, so I actually covered it in the video but I now see that I accidentally cut that part out of the video, I'm not sure why it's not there! I feel stupid now :)
Yes! Correct scaling is super important. You wanna use real-life scale (so about 180cm height, or any height you want that's realistic).
The easiest way is to place a "Figure" model from the Primitive menu (When you press the Cube, you can see the Figure in that menu). That figure is by default 180cm tall, which is the average human size. If you scale your imported model to be about the size of that figure you'll be good!
@@nia995 And I have two 2080ti's , Threadripper 2920x, and 128gb RAM. Also have 1tb RAID-0 SSD for my main drive, another 1tb SSD for my projects, and 1tb SSD for my cache files (AE, Premiere, X-Particles, RealFlow, etc). Also another 5tb external drive for archiving projects I'm done with, but I fill it up every few months :)
@@NewPlastic Thanks for all the information, ! Wow what a beast! 💪
how was the hair done?
these are epic tutorials, my guy just a quick 1. When your exporting from Daz to cinema4d is their a method that you use? like, do you take the images into photoshop or another software to adjust any of the image contrast or dial down the edges at all as you seem to get such crisp seams and there never seems to be a fault as I cannot import it from Daz to cinema4d cause it's not supported with r23... I have these strange artifacts and edges that never seem to join together as seamless as yours. I cannot progress with the characters any further. Please do you know any resolve for this? is their some setting that I should be using to prevent this?
Thanks again buddy!
So in the beginning of the tutorial I show my export settings from Daz to OBJ. Then I just import it to C4D. Are you trying to export an animation or a still pose?
As for photoshop, I don't touch up the textures in photoshop, unless, there's something specific that I want to do like add tattoos or alter specific parts of the skin.
Do the seam happen on the edges of the texture maps? Or are they all ripped apart randomly across the model?
@@NewPlastic im a real noob at all this so im not sure. Mate is their anyway you could do a dummies guide as you have a way with explaining things. It would be so helpful to just get a quick tut on the process and how you go about dialing in the settings as you seem to get nice materials and a daz to cinema4d just like you did with this but the daz part... id be really grateful mate as i want to get alot better too and your teaching me and everyone alot the detailed explanations are just refreshing
@@unityinfusionmedia9102 Yo! I totally understand. I actually don't even touch the materials in Daz, I just load in the model, use the poses and expressions I want and export it as OBJ just like I showed in the beginning of this video. I have a feeling maybe your problem has to do with the model you're using? If you want you can send me the exported model and I'll test it out on my computer.
Can this workflow also be executed using daz bridge to c4d instead?
Yes absolutely, when you import the model to c4d, you have the option to cover the materials to Octane, but the plugin is doing a horrible job at that. So you can just can just use the plugin to import the model and re-texturize manually with this method.
@@NewPlastic Cool. Will try it out!
hahah i used those exact same iris photos, yet i believ it was from some one else. I do recognize those photos though. It had around 100 pretty good res photos, i got themm all now :)
Mine was Edouard Janssens from his collection "Windows to the soul"
anyone know of any beginner C4d/ octane skin tutorials? love these tutorials but this is kinda over my head
i dont get the same eyes, all the sclera i got is black
Make sure to bring down Ray Epsilon in the kernel settings
I notice that there are some seam lines between different body part, like the line between face and torso. But when I only use the diffuse/specular maps from daz, without normal/randomwalk/micro normal that kind of stuffs, they are seamless. How can you fix this issue?
Yeah there are different reasons for that.
First, a lot of the times there's one different parameter between the two textures that makes the seam apparent. So it's important to make sure everything is absolutely identical - the Gamma on spec/roughness maps, the coating layer settings, etc. It's easy to miss the small stuff when there's so many settings to worry about.
Second, the Micro-Normal map will spread differently since the UV maps are different. They stretch more on the torso textures. Try turning off the Micro-Normal only and see if it helps. If it does, try scaling down the micro=normals on the torso until they match.
Third, usually that part is covered with hair, which is why I didn't worry about it in the tutorial. That's probably the easiest way to high that seam :) I've done 2 hair tutorials for afro-textured hair that you're welcome to check out!
@@NewPlastic I fixed it by turning bump map way down.I tried the normal/micro normal way, didn't work. I still don't know why, cuz my tex balls are directly duplicated from the orignal one. MOST importantly, your method of adding coating layers with micro-normal is GENIUS!! I don't want to lose that levelof details. Your DAZ-C4D texture ball setting is perfect! I searched lots of tutorials before, those methods always look unnatural, especially eyes. Hope you post more about DAZ - C4D content! Your're the BEST!
@@NewPlastic btw, I notice that the edge of the model's skirt looks so realistic, did you add hair to it?
@@deswzc4091 Yeah I think I know what you're talking about and that's just an issue with the some texture maps that come with the model - but it only really shows in closeups no?
And thanks! Yeah I was excited when I discovered it as well, the coating layer really adds a lot of specular realism and the micro normals add more subtle details that the texture maps dont hold.
And yeah I did end up adding a little bit of hair to the cloth, just to go with the whole realism vibes in this video! :)
@@NewPlastic Got it. Also looking forward to cloth tutorials, you're the hair guru:)
you are amazing and you help us to much
but i hope you make website to get money and have privet Tutorial
Really appreciate your support sir! I'm still at a stage where I want to give out free information to the community and share what I know. That's how I learned almost everything I know, from free tutorials!
But in the future if I see that creating this content can be a full time thing, I'll have to figure out a way to monetize it so I can pay rent :) When we get to that bridge, we'll know how to cross it
Please do hair next.
Just uploaded the first hair tutorial!
Can you pleeease make hair tutorial? I spent so much time and cant get anyhting near this results. Maybe a tutorial for curly fro with short sides? Maybe make a patreon for it. The hair results look really good!
Stay put, I deeply understand the struggle. I want the tutorial to be useful and good so I'm still figuring out the best ways to show the process. It's coming real soon!
@@NewPlastic it really is a struggle lol 🙏🙏🙏
@@eihabvisuals6327 Oh I know my dude
I want to see the animation that the daz gave me brought to C4D. Sorry for using the translator.
Doesnt that engine have an issue using a bump and a normal map together? I remember some other engine i used, using them both they worked against each other. I hardly to never use regular bump since there is just not enough info for the engine to show the effect properly
Actually no they work really well together! Normal maps will always be better and more efficient so they're better for more detailed texture, and bump can just be an extra layer of generic details. Never enough details!
@@NewPlastic Ah okay, i know some engines have issues with it. Same as when using normalmap + displacement. Sometimes they dont go well together and you see weird shading effects
How did you get the bump, normal, glossy maps out of day studio as it doesn't give you any but the body maps ?.... do you import it to photoshop or another software and generate them or make them your self?.
Hey, so good quality models will have all those maps stored, but they won't export with the obj. You'll need to manually find them and I show how to do that at 03:14 in this video.
But if your model doesn't have those maps, then yeah you can create them yourself - Travis Davids has a great tutorial on how to do that. Here's a link th-cam.com/video/U1xN9zvlC3Q/w-d-xo.html
Your hand clicks faster than your words are able to describe what you're doing...
Haha fastest shooter in the west
how did you get the micro normal ?
Hey damn I'm just seeing this comment, The micro normals you can get from the free model I used in the tutorial previous to this one called "The Ultimate Skin Tutorial". There's a micro-normal image map packaged with that model. I also show how to create a procedural micro-normal map on my "Cartoon Skin" tutorial. Check it out!
I wonder what fake shadow is actually doing ?
Why not make custom maps for the SSS, she kinda kept looking like a clown
Haha yessir! I mentioned it when I made the 3d gradient to decrease the SSS from her nose, for some reason I just chose to keep it procedural but yeah you can totally just paint in your SSS map.
thank you for this
You're very welcome!