One of my favorite parts of this movie is at the beginning when the patient says "it wants to get inside me". I believed it meant like a classical possession or whatever, but at the end, the giant creature literally climbs inside her body
I think this is a misconception about the movie, the demon doesn’t get transferred just because you watch the person die, it will only transfer if the death causes trauma. Trauma is what feeds it. Remember the guy in the prison said if you want to kill someone to transfer the demon, make sure it’s gruesome enough to cause trauma. In real life, the manner of death is mostly likely to cause trauma than the death itself.
As a person with a history of hallucinations, I know all too well the unsettling feeling of not being able to trust your senses. One thing that's helped me cope is grounding myself in reality. If I see something, then it vanishes, I don't panic, but rather remind myself that's not how reality works and it was never really there in the first place. If I see a lamp sway, or the floor ripple, or a wall look like it's about to tip over on me, I know that's not how reality operates, those things don't do that. If I feel something crawl on my skin or hear a voice, I verify the source and check it mentally against what I know about reality. It's saved my sanity through the years. It's something I've lived with since childhood and rational analysis has been the biggest help in coping.
That’s great, too bad in this movie the hallucinations are malevolent and intentional, so it’s pretty easy to make the person hallucinate literally anything and wether they’re real or not anyone would be driven mad because of how unrelenting and horrifying they are
damn wow you must be able to relate to this movie more than anyone. In a way this movie might have been really scary because of how personal it can be but maybe the horro factor might not be there because its a real thing for you and you know how to combat it. I would assume this level of mental grounding would not only require a lot of practice and "facing your fears" but mental strength as well. Its like standing your ground in a nightmare and assuring yourself this is just a dream WHILE being in the dream when all your senses are lying to you. Thats a very cool/interesting experience you have, glad your coping with it, made me realise hallucinations arent just a thing in horror movies but a very real thing people have and deal with. Looks like you have a better chance at beating this curse more than anyone else 💪
Joel had the absolute best chance to beat it. He knows what this thing is and how it works by now. When he kicks in the door and she’s there covered in the lamp oil with the match, he should simply say “ya know what, clearly I came at a bad time, I’m gonna go…”, turn around and take off, don’t look back, out of sight, out of mind.
I feel like once he set sights on her he’s immediately trapped by the demon in a trance. You have to watch at that point. It’s part of the demon’s …. Charm
True, but at the same time, isn't it human nature to keep looking? I mean, a lot of people can't look away due to the huge shock factor and the absurdity of what's happening in front of them. I still think he should have been able to look away and run, however. Considering that he is a cop and should have the discipline and will to do so.
Actually the easiest way to beat Smile would've been to seek psychiatric help. Ironic, given that our main character was a psychiatrist. If she told her boss that she's worried she might be a danger to herself or to others (which she 100% was), they might've put her on suicide watch until the demon starved. But against better judgement, our psychiatrist just kept running around in circles even after she killed her own cat. I really liked the movie, probably the scariest horror flick in recent years to me but those are the thoughts I had when I watched it. Clarification: I know we all like to get into the nitty-gritty of how exorcisms and demons are supposed to work but this entire movie has an overt message: If you are in distress, seek help. This whole film was a metaphor for how dismissive people can be in regards to mental illness. The stigma of "being crazy" made Rose not want to seek psychiatric help and in the end she "lost the battle against her demons" if you know what I mean.
The problem being is it spreads by having other people watch you kill yourself. So if she was on suicide watch she has to be watched. Even In a padded cell a possessed person can easily kill themselves
This is a pretty unbeatable situation. outside of going to a private island and cutting off all access to tools that allow her to get off it, or killing someone, I don’t see what she could have done. Especially because of how much the demon can influence the possessed reality
@@marcusplenty1153 I know I know.. In the end it's a movie and stuff needs to happen for it to be entertaining. In a straightjacket with a feeding tube up their throat however, the demon has literally no way of killing the victim. As a psychiatrist, Rose should've known how to behave to end up in a situation like that.
Thank you so much. You have changed my life. I was being haunted by a demonic spirit, but I remembered this video. I downloaded Raid: Shadow Legends and the demon started to writhe and die in front of me.
I was so mad that she kept going to people who wouldn’t Believe here. If this was me I would be going to a spiritualist, priest, exorcist, someone who legitimately believes that something supernatural is haunting me😭
To be fair, she’s a psychologist. She’s been hard wired to find a logical solution to every problem. So even when something far beyond mundane is threatening her, I could see her falling back on what she knows and is comfortable with, even if that only helps the demon by wasting her finite time.
@@stingerjohnny9951yeah and also throughout the story she was in denial at every opportunity of help from people close to her as if the demon was influencing her in a way. The guy said to stay close to as many people as you can yet you can see the demon causes hallucinations which defeats the purpose of having people close to you keeping you sane
I think the biggest thing people overlook for beating the demon is that the demon is in her mind and knows all her thoughts. Wanna go on suicide watch? The demon can just trick u into thinking you’ve checked yourself in but turns out you’re just talking to illusions.
Right, but who knows how strong it is at the beginning. Also, the demon can only make you hallucinate your actions. It cannot undo the actions of other people. So if someone were to kidnap you and leave you stranded in some remote location, I don’t think the demon would be able to undo that action.
I think the only way to "trap" the entity is if the victim's friends and family members isolate them in a room in the middle of nowhere and let the victim die alone. The group can't know when the person dies as they'll experience trauma, and the cycle repeats. I say trap because if someone else stumbles upon the body, they'll experience trauma, and the entity continues on, and the group wouldn't know the entity is freed.
The "taking your senses" away idea is actually pretty solid. The curse also appears to be on a time limit and, for some reason, only requires one witness to be present. There must be a reason why infected people just don't slit their throat on times square or somewhere busy. I would take my chances with opaque contact lenses, a pair of headphones and just camping out at a big airport. See when the demon gets bored.
When he mentioned that demons follow rules and laws, i pictured someone trying to free themselves from being haunted by making a legal case against the demon, accusing them of not following their own rules. It sounds like a good base for a legal drama.
Why is it that anyone being haunted or something is dating someone who would never believe them? Can we get a real supportive relationship in a horror movie for once? Two heads are better than one anyway.
Would you believe your brother or sister if they came up to you and said half the shit that happens in horror movies is happening to them and actually believe them?
I just watched it literally 30 minutes ago and I didn't expect to love it so much. The whole twist of her still losing despite all her effort is so scary and yet so real. I saw the creator (I believe that's who it was) talk a bit about it and mentioning how people want to know their monsters are beatable, that they can win the fight. Nothing is scarier than doing everything right, and still losing. Healing is a lifelong journey, not a 4 day or 2 month or 1 year journey, a lifelong one. The goal isn't to entirely defeat our monsters, but to live with them and let them know that we are the bosses, not them.
I watched it last night and it's easily one of my favourite horrors. It's far less trashy than It Follows, the main character becomes more sympathetic as the film develops and the acting is first-rate. The jump scares are so terrifying I would actually warn people with heart problems not to watch it, not something I can say about almost any other film.
It is extremely hard to beat the curse in Smile. Most people don't have the guts to murder someone, let alone in front of a witness. And going to a remote location devoid of people is quite the task when the Smile demon is mindfucking you with hallucinations.
naw it's possible especially once she could build a case for demonic possession.The demon runs off of fear and illusions so don't trust everything you hear or see that just does not make sense.Keep a cool head and don't give it the energy it needs to take over your body.Get somewhere where nothing can harm or kill you since the demon makes you kill yourself in front of someone.Try to get baptized and get unattached from the demon.Do about 6 months to a year in isolation watched by people just to make sure it's good and hopefully you should be good.
I always end up watching these videos instead of the actual movie because I don't want to get nightmares It's still scary but having someone talking over the clips helps me distance myself Edit: Guys I'm talking about these videos in general not this specific movie, I didn't even watch the video before writing this comment. Stop insulting me already 😞
I personally watch stuff like this since my ADHD doesn't let me focus on movies for too long, and a 31 minute rundown with tips how to deal with situations like this makes my brain not only stand this, but crave it while gaining useful knowledge
@@prettyxbonez96 Did they say they do it always? No. People make mistakes and learn from them. Plus, for all you know, it wasn't their job. Making assumptions based off one comment is unnecessary. I'm simply trying to be reasonable and not get mad over one comment. Edit: ALSO making assumptions based off one comment without trying to reason all the possibilities is nonsense and highly judgemental. You can't assume something based off just a few words said online. If you do, it's unwise. They could of been dealing with a family member and was uneducated at the time. Or it was their first time dealing with a patient who experiences delusions. You don't know therefore you don't have the right to say they were bragging. There's more context that's needed before you can judge anything Simple as that, it's not nonsense. You need context, it's that simple
Usually I agree with HTB's videos, but this one I don't. I watched the movie myself and the "demon" (I quote it because in the movie, it is never clearly stated what it is. It is almost represented like an unknown phenomenon.) is seemingly impossible to rid of, except the obvious that is stated in the movie; to kill someone and have a witness. Or yourself. If you also watch "Laura hasn't slept", which is the prequel to this movie, it gives more insight and just really solidifes that once you get involved with the Smile "thing", that is it, game over. With that being said, highly recommend anyone to watch this. It is the first good horror movie I've seen in forever, and doesn't have that resolution that most horror movies do.
Yeah, I was confused. The financial aspect isn't the most absurd aspect of his comment. Most PhDs are known for being extremely stressful (at least, in my country). With extensive working and studying hours, most of the time, you need to work as a team to keep up with classes.
@@ezekielmulder1056 I was like oh, they get a STIPEND. Clearly they must be set for life!! Thinking of all the heartbroken, ground-down, miserable PhD students I've ever spoken to lmaaaaaooo
@@tartatovsky I mean he was wrong all along. He claimed stopping your own heart is a way to get rid of the demon or poisoning someone with cyanide cigarettes is going to transfer the demon which is wrong. He should’ve fixated on the fact that all the suicides were pretty aggressive and harmful, enough to cause trauma.
Ironically, the way to defeat the demon is to just not care about it. The trauma compounds on itself over time, so if she would have for example just ignored the smiling patient and not give a damn, it would have not gotten more control. And she discovers about the trauma when meeting with the prisoner, so there are dozens of ways of reducing the amount of trauma from then on. It would then slowly get weaker. The hallucinations in the beginning are not very big and/or upsetting or even elaborate, but they become bigger and more elaborate as she becomes more unhinged. Obviously, it's a movie and all that, but I hate how 90% of the bad stuff could have been easier to get through by simply communicating. Like to her boss: "I think this case has impacted me quite a lot, because I'm starting to see things. Can you give me some medication that will help me calm down?" Et voila. Meds = no trauma. Demon staved off. Another interesting thing, people with depression are less capable of feeling strong emotions. Would this mean depressed people are immune to the curse? Like imagine the scene with the patient going "You are going to die?" and the person replying with: "Yes, please. Can you help?" :D
FYI, she would have lost her job if she asked for medication. To cope. Even for trauma on the job, healthcare professionals are held to a standard that makes this impossible.
yeah, she should have asked for meds to numb her emotions a bit atleast and then try to go from there, she would've gottena a bit more time then. also do psychopaths count i mean they dont have fear or morals as normal people so demon would be like wtf do i do with this lad now. XD
That's not how meds work. You don't just snap your fingers and heal from trauma. She'd have to go into full on medicine-induced coma, with no chance of hurting herself or others.
I'm still waiting for a horror movie where the victim immediately begins kicking the spirit's ass. Just charging at it as soon as they see it and laying a good old fashioned ass kicking on it. I bet no demon expects that.
@@bballkid1original Main character beats up possessed animatronics like it's a mild annoyance even though they easily kill teenagers. Really funny and I'm pretty sure it's a reference to horror game protagonists being OP.
This video was posted during my recovery period after I went to the hospital for jaw surgery and I just got to watching it today and it was very calm and relaxing and really made me feel good during my recovery period...so thank you.
I would pretend that I’m drunk and wasted af and would walk around a dodgy area. When a group of at least two people try to take advantage of me I will murder one of them. I could argue it was in self defence and avoid prison. It’s risky I know but there is no way I’m dying with a stupid ass smile on my face while I pass the curse onto a loved one, or a good person.
Smart 😂😂But keep in mind it also has to be a gruesome traumatic murder, itll be pretty hard to call that self defense. Well depending on what state you’re in
The solution is just to rip the biggest farts whenever the demon presents itself. Not only do you clear the room of witnesses but you release something so evil from the depths of your ass that even the demon is stumped by the smelly horror.
Rose had layers of trauma: her mother's death, ending things with Joel, and lastly, Laura's death. This is why she would never have been able to escape the curse.
The demon was harmed by the fire. The fire represents the present. Trauma and stress represent the future and the past. The only way to defeat the devil in your mind is to shed light onto it; self awareness. Thats what this whole movie is about.
@@richpryor9650 the devil was defeated by christ. To an outsider, they may not understand what that sentence means but after that person repents their demons die and the devil has to start all over again. It does not matter what the director does. This is beyond words in the bible. This is common sense. If you see someone smiling at you, you can look away and do other things alpha males do when they see a demon
I've never heard of fire representing the present and also stress can represent all the tenses of time as thinking of something or dealing with stress can relate to thoughts of the past, present, or future events. So it feels like you're kinda reaching especially since I think the theme of the film has more to do with mental health and how people who have issues both deal with it and are treated by others more so than just how you "defeat the devil in your mind" (especially since she doesn't even defeat it). That and how traumatic events can effect you and by extension other people that you come into contact with creating more trauma.
The thing about this curse is that it is already in her mind and can make her see and do things that aren't real from the very beginning. In other universes like conjuring the demon has to slowly make the target fear itself so that it can feed of this fear and dominate the target. I think the smile works similar but instead of trying to implant the fear from outside to take over the victim of the smile gets cursed once they see the previous victim kill itself. The smile then spreads like a virus via inflicted trauma on a person and goes inside their head since non of the things rose saw was ever real. If the smile can read her mind or not is questionable but it was already way more powerful in the beginning than common demons. It made her kill and wrap her cat as a present without her noticing it which would require a very complex illusion or a temporary full body takeover. Theoretically the whole birthday party and the fight with her sister could have been a illusion to make her think she has no one to trust anymore as it noticed the tension at the restaurant. I believe for the smile to take over it is required that the victim fears the smile to death which then allows the smile to take over the body and kill them. As we saw the previous girl terrified in a corner in fear it might see the curse again and then escalating in fear completely as the smile pretended to be the therapist. With no escape and the fear to die the smile took over her and killed her in front of rose which inflicted enough trauma to spread over to her. Now rose as a therapist strongly believes she knows what is real and what's not and trust in herself that she has her life full under her control. With small hallucinations the curse starts to implant doubts on herself and on her reality but to make her fall from believing in herself it had to show her that she truly had lost control over her actions by killing her cat and make her look crazy in front of everyone. As a therapist you should have a good understanding how the patients feel if no one trusts or believes them and her fear would of course be that no one believes her and turns against her. But she held on to believe she could escape or destroy the curse by confronting it so the curse tricked her into believing she defeated it. Thats when she left her guard down and the curse revealed it's trick. Coughed off guard she ran away only to find herself in a way worse position: back at her old house but now with a witness and a reason for the curse to kill her. She realized that she ran out of time and options to escape and cornered in her old house with her death sentence behind the door the fear of death is very reasonable. A witness to die and the fear of a inevitable death all the requirements for the curse were met as she gave up on her knees accepting death. My theory on how to beat the curse is do not fall into fear. In the old house in her illusion, i think this was the first time the curse tried to take over her but her believe that without a witness the curse wouldn't kill her she had enough mental strength to dominate the curse even to it could just have taken over her and simply walk to the next piece of civilization. The curse noticed that she didn't fear it enough and that it couldn't win in this moment so it changed its plan and pretended like it was defeated. Showing her that it was not made her believe that it was invincible and her fear of death came back and gave the curse the upper hand again. To truly defeat the curse you have to make the curse fear you to death. If in her ex boyfriends apartment she would have faced the curse a second time in stead of running away the curse would have start fearing her realizing she figured out how to beat it and she wouldn't fear it again thus taking its power over her away and leaving the curse vulnerable now. Knowing that if you don't fear the curse it becomes powerless you will automatically less fear it and it will slowly starve to death.
i don't think thats the case tho i mean if she accepted it where would the demon go? also she tried killing it and i her mind killed it but it turns out she didn't. i don't think its legitimately possible to kill it. i mean we never even get a clear understanding of what it is. we don't even know if it can be killed. im confused on how tricked her and what if you were to try and kill yourself?. i mean a witness seems to.be required for it to pass on so what if you deliberately try and end your life early? or what if someome kills you? if you were to die from something that isn't the demons fault amd there were no witnesses wouldn't the demon just cease to exist? idk this seems like the only.way to kill it.
@@MythicAce218 thats a good one actually, I don't think the curse would let you kill yourself, for example if you were to jump of a bridge the curse would probably make you hallucinating the whole thing and after you died you would just wake up on top of the bridge again like rose did in her car as she tried to kill her patient. I don't know why someone else should kill you in your time of being cursed and even if it would probably give said person enough trauma for the curse to spread. The thing about it is we don't know how to kill it. Everything i theorized earlier is mainly how to survive your first 5 days and dominate the curse. If you manage to survive 4 days it's likely that you will survive for longer or at least for as long as you don't fear the curse. After that you can experiment if the curse will just stfu forever now or if you can exorcise it, but most likely you will have to live with it forever like a mental disorder. Film theory made a very nice video about this too might go check it out as well :3
On one hand having a psychiatrist as the main character for a trauma based demon is brilliant; on the other hand she really should have been able to handle it better.
She wasn’t just a psychiatrist, she had deep seeded trauma from her own past and that was fertile feeding grounds for the entity to taunt and torment her with her own expertise almost working against her
If you put into factor how emotionally strong humans are, this creatures tactics suddenly seem much smarter. The creature is probably centuries old, which means it either learned from each victim to make its strategies better, or it overall just has foolproof ways to pass on the curse. This video has such good ways at beating the creature but.. how do I say this, it’s kind of like dramatic irony, we know more than the person does in the movie. Even with the good strategies mentioned in this video, there will most likely be a slip-up.
I saw this movie in theaters. I'm not someone that gets scared easily, but there's something about this movie that just scares me to my core. Ever since watching it i've been plagued by occasional nightmares. It's a effective horror movie, but god, I wish I had never watched it. I'm hoping that maybe this video might help a little, think like exposure therapy.
@@MrLoverman7134 yeah it's been two months since I've seen the movie, and whenever memories of it come up I do just binge watch all my comfort content to help. I think one of my main triggers for this movie was most definitely the fact that Mustache the cat looked just like my irl cat
ngl, one of my biggest fears is disformed/unsettling looking faces (i think the fear is called dysmorphophobia but i could be wrong). even just the thought of seeing someone staring and grinning at me is absolutely terrifying. but i'm obsessed with horror and really wanna watch this movie for the thrills, so i'm tryna use this video as a way to watch it and also with your commentary it's less scary, although i keep finding myself running to the comments to hide from the screen 😭
If you look at yourself in the mirror while the lighting is bluish and a bit dim, your mind will get bored and will change your perception. You will see your face changing into horrific images.
You have to feel sorry for Rose here. Everyone in her life except Joel either turned their backs on her when they could have made a difference, or dismissed her as having a mental breakdown. Her fiancée was no help, but her sister was the worst, as she knew better than anyone the trauma she endured, and washed her hands of her, making this the SECOND time she abandoned her (first time I believe was when they were kids, when she moved out and left Rose there to deal with their mother alone). The reaction at the birthday party disaster was understandable, but I am specifically referring to the sister's behavior afterward. But I think this was a metaphor how many people tend to either not understand or not want to deal with someone who is struggling with their mental health. As I mentioned earlier, Joel tried to help, and he deserves credit for his efforts, but in the end was too late. Maybe (this is probably just me being naïve, but it is a thought anyway) if he had be quick enough to restrain her or somehow try to smother the flames and save her life... Point is, it comes to show how we need to be with loved ones who are open to trying to understand what we are going through and helping us when we are struggling. That the affirmation that they love us and will help us get through those dark moments, not giving up, instead of having to face them alone...I don't know what difference that would have made here but still...
Perhaps the point is that they did try to help her and she wouldn't accept that she had mental health issues... She only allowed one person to help her because he was willing to play along with her delusions and it got her killed?
I just watched and I will say, I think that her sister doing that although harsh saved her life. She was bringing trauma to the sisters kid by the cat present and if you think of it from a mental health standpoint, all that would have happened was more trauma for herself and her family. It’s like her sister broke that cycle for her family.
"A student doing her PhD would not only be confident enough, but also be financially and mentally stable.." Me, doing my PhD, knowing we go through mental and financial issues: 0_0
I think one of the smartest plot chooses was to make Rose not believe her patient, because later she experiences what it’s like on the other side of the table when nobody believed her, and yet she couldn’t really blame them.
The cat thing could also be explained. When was the last time she saw her cat? If it’s with a sitter or at a care center then she could call them and confirm the cat wasn’t killed by her. If it was at her home she has a security system that could bring up footage to show what really happened or if that was really the cat or a visual hallucination. And why would people freak out and turn against her if she starts crying over her dead cat. There’s no proof she killed it or knew it was in the box in the first place. The sister seems to just be a bitch and needed to be appeased or avoided. Also not loosing your shit when you see a creepy dead person in the room because you know if you do then they want you to freak out. The cat just…breaks the demon’s tactics.
Yeah, watch the footage like when she listened to the footage? Literally anything she could have done could backfire and she could black out again as well. The demon showed her what it wanted her to see as she barely had a part of reality left in her mind, but yeah, I guess she could have tried that if she wasn't losing her mind. People lose their keys and don't remember where they put them. She was losing her shit. It's not unbelievable. If she blacked out and got possessed enough to kill the cat and gift wrap it and clean up the mess, then that's a wrap, the demon won. I would have liked to see her handle the cat like a feminist, but that would be animal cruelty.
I think it did a good job showing that people would rather stigmatize and blame mentally ill people than do anything to help them. It was a more dramatic version of how everyone had previously (and after) dismissed her as "crazy"
When I first saw that cat I instantly knew that they were going to do something crazy to it but I never thought it was going to be that messed up when the kid opened the present on his birthday being scarred and paralyzed by what he just witnessed
I hate when they do that in movies they always introduce some animal or pet just to kill it off to build tension from it and I know the cat wasn't actually hurt but still there's no need for it
This is honestly a normal memetic hazard. Hearing the whisper infects your mind creating the halucinations and the whole being haunted.. Class B amnestics to all affected, quaranteen, down the internet, radio and exclude audio in tv.
The whole movie I was trying to give it a classification and a description for further official research by the foundation. It was green lit by Dr.███████
@@christianephrem160 investigation into possible use as a kill agent is forbiden, but a copy should be kept at a laptop at site ###### with removed data ports and speakers for potential study of the percieved entity.
To beat the monster, wouldn't it be to come to terms and accept the aka accepting the monster? Instead of running from the mom demon thing, she should have walked up to her and hugged her, fighting back is what feeds the monster, accepting it is overcoming it
I think the demon or entity in smile has the ability to put you into some kind of illusion if you do something to break the curse. Unless there's some kind ritual that would kill the entity. If they just trace where it all begun they will surely know how to beat that demon.
One way to tell if someone is the demon or not, such as the therapist when she showed up at the woman's house, would be to ask personal questions that the demon wouldn't be able to answer. The demon wouldn't know things like the birthday or the name of the significant other of whoever they're disguised as, so if they dodge the question you can easily tell they are a hallucination. When knowing its a demon through this method, you could try laughing in its face and mocking it, since it relies on trauma, this would give you a better time in dealing with it. Hell I deal with hallucinations myself that are usually people and I tend to call them names and stuff to deal with it. The demon relies on someone witnessing a death and being traumatized by it in order to pass on to another victim. With this in mind, you could easily wander into an area like a national park or forest and, well, kill yourself out of sight of everyone and let your body be eaten by animals living in the area or degrade over time, if you can't beat it after all, might as well make it go down with you. If you isolate yourself for long enough with the demon, you'll know that it is messing with you when it disguises as others, especially if you don't tell anyone where you're going. The demon at that point may run out of options if it can't get you to kill yourself in front of others, since you'd be on your own so the curse wouldn't pass on.
Yeah, but if the demon has access to your mental. It could pull the details to answer whatever question you ask. But again, unless I’m forgetting something, we don’t know how much access to our memories/brain it has. Also if we try to take our own lives, it’s possible that it’ll make us hallucinate that or just take over our bodies and wait/bring a witness
That movie was easily one of the best movies I saw the last couple of years. Remembered me of "It follows" which I also loved. That movie was so great in the movie theatre, the sound was great. I watched it later at home at it was not even 50% as great as it was when I watched it the first time in the theatre.
Exactly! Tha man in jail said that it has to be gruesome enough to cause trauma. Stopping a heart then restarting it again wouldn't work. It's a controlled environment with precautions in place if something were to go wrong.
I came here from the smile 2 trailer and I didn’t even know smile 1 or 2 were movies so I automatically assumed that they are a fan film based on the smile tapes and I went to this channel to prove my suspicions and I am amazed by how strong the connections to the smile tapes are in this movie and no one even got sued
This movie was so good. I was legit creeped out and on edge the whole time, and I have watched a lot of horror movies and none have got me like this one did
@@olha2415 I see a lot of people saying that, but for me it really wasnt. It had its moments and amazing acting but not that scary for me. Maybe bcs I like that type of horror
I was actually thoroughly surprised with the movie. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be and it was one of the better horror movies of 2022
I suggest those who hadn't watched the movie to watch it, the sound and tension is so well done probably one of the scariest movies I've seen in years.
Then you haven’t experienced real horror movies yet, these demon flicks are so boring, I just fall asleep, or end up playing on my phone, these are a dime a dozen, and are used so much, most directors don’t do it right. Saw is a real horror, Halloween is a real horror, texas chainsaw is a horror, all of these are REAL horror movies.
This movie was more funny than scary. When the doctor ripped his face off while she was stabbing the patient, i bursted out laughing in the cinema or when the mothermonster showed itself, i also bursted out laughing cause it kinda looked like michael jackson
@@loganwolverine5849 everything you named (saw, texas chainsaw massacre, Halloween) aren‘t real classic horror movies. They‘re all splatter and slasher genres. Texas & Saw try to gross you out and make you feel disgusted, Halloween is a common 90s slasher movie where a group of people get hunted and killed. Classical horror movies are the grudge, the exorcist, the shining, the conjuring and so on.
Since watching this movie, was looking forward to what this TH-camr's take on how to beat the Smile Demon. Unfortunatly in all honesty there isnt a way to beat( and if there is more than 1 survivor like the inmate, your life is essentially ruined since there are worse things then death) it by planning, since the Smile demon has shown to warp the host's sense of reality and trick them into thinking they do something or experience something but its all a hallucination, thus making any planned contigencies pointless since the host's mind is slowly breaking down and succumbing to the Demon so it can posssess them for the final act to find another host. This thing is most likely centuries, if not thousands of years old and thus has foolproof method of ensuring its curse passes on
@@thewillofdreams6921 Definitly agree with you nothing is unbeatable but with each passing minute/day, your mental state is declining thus preventing you from making the best/logical decisions. Thus decreasing your chances of beating this thing. With us looking from the outside, it is easy to suggest better solutions to this but once a person is experiencing said problem, everyone will react and handle it differently.
@@Desipapa8989 Well one thing we know is that the demon has to traumatize people to enter them. The stronger that trauma + pre-existing trauma, is the stronger presence the demon has on the host. As Carl (the cop’s name right?) says that victims have as little as 4 days (heavy trauma like Rose), to a whole week. Him being a police officer it’s likely he has seen gruesome events. Doesn’t seem like he had pre-existing trauma. So, at least he’d have 5 days and with pre-existing knowledge of the demon and a way to stop it, his mind would be more hardened. He could transfer the curse to someone by murdering in front a spectator, then possibly kill the spectator. But yea the rules weren’t clear in this movie
I've seen death, one moment someone's living, the next they aren't. It's tragic, but you understand this is life and things happen outside of your control no matter how hard you work to save someone it isn't always good enough. 3 years as a VFF I've seen people die in crashes, smoke inhalation etc. You accept that you've done all you can. You basically detach yourself from emotion to do your job.
If the entity could be tricked into latching onto someone who’s already suicidal, what’s to stop that person from just going into the woods and “taking one for the team”, so to speak? Without witnesses, there’d be no way for it to spread
When she headed off to her childhood house I actually thought that's where the movie was going 😅 Like "wow, this mental health themed movie is gonna have _that_ be the solution??"
If you watched the movie right, the first time she gets posessed and literally drops dead. When the psychiatrist turns around she is gone from the floor and then the cycle goes on
I thought this movie was pretty funny. I always wondered what the demon would do if some sociopath witnessed the suicide and just felt no trauma. What would the demon do? What if the planned victim was just like "damn bro that's crazy...anyways". Would the demon just die?
The "poisoning" someone else method to transfer the curse makes no sense and wouldn't work. Wasn't it stated that: 1. The possessed person needs to commit the act while he/she, the victim and another person (who will be transferred to) witnessing it are all present. 2. It needs to be as traumatizing and violent as possible to work. If we go with your suggestion, it will take up to 3 days for the person to be gone and most likely that person will think is just sick and stay at home and be alone, or if someone is there, they'll just think the person is sick and call 911 even before that and it won't be traumatizing/violent enough + the person who tried to transfer it won't be present when it happens. So this is not a viable method to do it.
I was thinking the same, this is just not going to work. That's why all other deaths in Smile 1&2 are so violent, because it needs to traumatize the next victim enough and cement it in their mind. Also other things in the video make no sense like surrounding yourself with 2 or more people when we know the demon can not only manipulate your reality, but take control of you making you do stuff you have no idea of and even make time skip for you without knowing. So being with other people can put them in more danger and you don't know if your reality is the "true" reality. I feel he was writing the script minute by minute while watching the movie at the same time and after that he didn't go back to correct things that have been shown/explained later.
Another solution would be to put the infected in a coma with restraints, and if the person wakes up as themselves or the demon, just knock them out again. It would literally be impossible for the person to harm themselves and the demon would starve.
Well it seems like the demon has the power to change the actual reality. First it literally killed the cat and took the body. And notice how the dead cat was switched with the kid’s train present. Rose never did this, the item got wrapped at the store, so the demon has more abilities we can’t be sure off. Most likely it would remove the restraints.
@@KeemJL I don't think that's it. I think the entity only exists in the mind of a person, not in the material world. This is shown by the little boy who received the cat, when he looked outside his window only to see the main character losing her mind in her car. From her perspective, we can see her sister's neck bend awkwardly through the car window. From the boy's perspective, we only see her getting terrified in her car. During the birthday itself, she sees her dead patient, but nobody else sees her. The entity doesn't change reality, it tricks the mind and can not actually physically do things aside from possessing people who are in a weak mental state. Even in the end fight, we see the entity burn and the mc return to the cop's house. But later on, we realize that none of this actually happened as she's back in her old home in front of it (the entity). Everything was just mental torment to get the mc in a weaker state so the entity could feed off her and possess her when the time came. With that being said, I believe that the mc did kill her cat, thinking she was doing something else. Again, let's go back to the end scene where she thinks she's in the cop's house. She sees the house, and the cop, and believes that that is actually happening. But then the scene cuts back to her being in the old house. She probably thought she was making dinner or something when in reality, she was killing her cat and putting it in the gift box. I didn't use names because I watched this movie a while ago and forgot them, and I haven't fully watched the video yet.
Having read a lot of psychology and therapy textbooks, I absolutely agree with your assessment at the beginning: a therapist absolutely should not open by telling a patient that everything is okay and things aren't as bad as they seem. That is antagonistic, already telling the patient you don't trust them to know what they're talking about, and that you don't believe them or take them seriously. Nobody wants to be talked to like that, and it will never help your work.
What if the victim of the demon commits suicide in isolation? Will the demon just stop haunting people? or will it find another way to reenter our realm?
It won’t let you commit suicide in isolation, it’s shown it can affect what you see. So it can convince you that you are off alone in the woods while you are walking back into a populated area
@@NicoletteC well if you're in a situation like the ex boyfriend as soon as you see Rose turn herself into a flambéd flower he could shoot himself with his service pistol.
@@jd3thegreat That's a good point, because it would only have latched onto him for a few seconds and he would have more control of his own actions, but human nature makes us think we can figure out a way to survive :(
Also based on her physical condition the woman is probably sleep deprived enough to have already suffered from hallucinations and paranoia just as a side effect of lack of sleep.
@@sylent1 true but I was referring to the college students in the very beginning and it takes several days of sleep deprivation to cause hallucinations. Either way the best thing you do would be to give the college girl on mild sedative.
Question. If you were to kill in front of someone who wouldn't get traumatized by this, would you still have the curse? Or would it be forced to pass on, but get denied access to the next person, because this person didn't experience trauma. If this were to be the case, murdering someone in front of a serial killer would be a permanent way to defeat this creature.
It wouldn't spread as the entity spreads through trauma. The entity will stay inside you if there's no trauma in the death. Now, if you killed someone traumatically and kill the next host, you could beat the entity. However, it won't work because now the entity knows what you know and will make constant hallucinations until it kills you.
I would wonder why all victims take at least 4 days to die. It seems the demon cannot kill you until you’re “ready”, as in until trauma has consumed you and you have given up. Maybe shock therapy might work, like ECT? there is evidence that suggests ECT can improve PTSD symptoms.
You can see over time the demon appears more often and gets more aggressive maybe he waits for days until he's done playing with the victim and just decides to kill it off and move on to the next one
Another method you could try when you find out the demon will go if you kill someone with a witness is kill someone in a game while a stranger is watching since it still has the definition as killing and the demon may be forced to swap over since they have a certain set if rules, and if it fails its only 10 minutes gone.
Eh, almost definitely not. The movie talks about the death needing to be gruesome because it's based on trauma, and killing someone in a game is very unlikely to create trauma for anyone watching (unless you're talking about actually killing someone but calling what you're doing when it happens a game).
What upset me about this movie is that it makes you think her overcoming and learning to deal with the trauma of her past and thus being able to appear to fight back against the entity made me so mad, she did it, she learned to deal with and accept what happened...and overcame it only to still give up at the end and accept it taking her over. Then the guy...like dude if you can't get through the door quickly there are some windows you could easily get in through...then on top of that you see her pouring something over herself and once you saw that smile you should have tackled her to keep it from being able to use her to get to him, at the very least they would have probably both died or there be no witness during the process thus probably not allowing it to transfer.
Right! In the scene at the end I was yelling "dude don't look!", since he knows the curse transmits by witnessing something traumatic, he should be aware!
@@morphogenetic_, let's be honest the man could've done so many things but became a Deer in Headlights. Also if he calls this in I wonder how the cops would react....ok you know what I would support making a sequel. There's to much lore setup that isn't given justice that needs to be touched up on, and I want to know how it goes on to affect him and how he reacts to it.
Ok, so if they don't make a Squeal that does the Movie justice with what happened to the first movie I will be greatly upset. "It was a box office success, grossing $216 million worldwide against a $17 million budget." -- Wikipedia So excluding any unknown expenses (anything not listed as a cost in the budget) this movie nearly made $200 Million in profit.
The "and Joel realizes that going back to your ex is never a good idea" should be a lesson to resonate with you... And yes I'm talking to you reading my comment with your left leg on top of the right one... And go to sleep, scary movies are scarier at night. PS. My condolences for your lost btw
I saw the trailer for this, and that split second when her sister’s head swiveled to see in the car window, my soul left my body. Ugh. That effed me up lol.
I wonder what would happen if you save the person trying to kill themselves? For instance, she is trying to burn herself to death, what if he puts her out before she can completely succumb to and die from her injuries? Wouldn't that cancel out the effect?
THIS.... this is one of the ACTUALLY scary videos! the explaining is scary enough, but now i feel like i keep being watched. and idk why but I'M starting to smile
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One of my favorite parts of this movie is at the beginning when the patient says "it wants to get inside me". I believed it meant like a classical possession or whatever, but at the end, the giant creature literally climbs inside her body
makes it so much scarier honestly
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The demon: “Ight. Imma head out. This guy’s more evil than me.”
@thaz fff oh I would die immediately
I think this is a misconception about the movie, the demon doesn’t get transferred just because you watch the person die, it will only transfer if the death causes trauma. Trauma is what feeds it. Remember the guy in the prison said if you want to kill someone to transfer the demon, make sure it’s gruesome enough to cause trauma. In real life, the manner of death is mostly likely to cause trauma than the death itself.
That's why I think the methods of suciide are so violent.
Exactly
Yes exactly because the movie is all to do with post traumatic stress disorder
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So you need to find a real psychopath that kills you and the demon is dead xD because a real psychopath will never get a Trauma from killing you.
As a person with a history of hallucinations, I know all too well the unsettling feeling of not being able to trust your senses. One thing that's helped me cope is grounding myself in reality. If I see something, then it vanishes, I don't panic, but rather remind myself that's not how reality works and it was never really there in the first place. If I see a lamp sway, or the floor ripple, or a wall look like it's about to tip over on me, I know that's not how reality operates, those things don't do that. If I feel something crawl on my skin or hear a voice, I verify the source and check it mentally against what I know about reality. It's saved my sanity through the years. It's something I've lived with since childhood and rational analysis has been the biggest help in coping.
Lights Out. Her boyfriend was down.
That’s great, too bad in this movie the hallucinations are malevolent and intentional, so it’s pretty easy to make the person hallucinate literally anything and wether they’re real or not anyone would be driven mad because of how unrelenting and horrifying they are
@@christophermoore6110 - That's nice. What's your point?
Yeah I’m currently experiencing hallucinations and damn is it bad 😂
damn wow you must be able to relate to this movie more than anyone. In a way this movie might have been really scary because of how personal it can be but maybe the horro factor might not be there because its a real thing for you and you know how to combat it. I would assume this level of mental grounding would not only require a lot of practice and "facing your fears" but mental strength as well. Its like standing your ground in a nightmare and assuring yourself this is just a dream WHILE being in the dream when all your senses are lying to you. Thats a very cool/interesting experience you have, glad your coping with it, made me realise hallucinations arent just a thing in horror movies but a very real thing people have and deal with. Looks like you have a better chance at beating this curse more than anyone else 💪
Joel had the absolute best chance to beat it. He knows what this thing is and how it works by now. When he kicks in the door and she’s there covered in the lamp oil with the match, he should simply say “ya know what, clearly I came at a bad time, I’m gonna go…”, turn around and take off, don’t look back, out of sight, out of mind.
I feel like once he set sights on her he’s immediately trapped by the demon in a trance. You have to watch at that point. It’s part of the demon’s …. Charm
True, but at the same time, isn't it human nature to keep looking?
I mean, a lot of people can't look away due to the huge shock factor and the absurdity of what's happening in front of them.
I still think he should have been able to look away and run, however. Considering that he is a cop and should have the discipline and will to do so.
@@dayoolaleye1265nope, he was probably in shock.
Couldn't they put her in a drug -induced coma, so nothing could happen? That could have bought the detective time.
I think he was interested in her as in he loves her. That's why he can't keep a blind eye
Actually the easiest way to beat Smile would've been to seek psychiatric help. Ironic, given that our main character was a psychiatrist. If she told her boss that she's worried she might be a danger to herself or to others (which she 100% was), they might've put her on suicide watch until the demon starved. But against better judgement, our psychiatrist just kept running around in circles even after she killed her own cat.
I really liked the movie, probably the scariest horror flick in recent years to me but those are the thoughts I had when I watched it.
Clarification: I know we all like to get into the nitty-gritty of how exorcisms and demons are supposed to work but this entire movie has an overt message: If you are in distress, seek help. This whole film was a metaphor for how dismissive people can be in regards to mental illness. The stigma of "being crazy" made Rose not want to seek psychiatric help and in the end she "lost the battle against her demons" if you know what I mean.
The problem being is it spreads by having other people watch you kill yourself. So if she was on suicide watch she has to be watched. Even In a padded cell a possessed person can easily kill themselves
This is a pretty unbeatable situation. outside of going to a private island and cutting off all access to tools that allow her to get off it, or killing someone, I don’t see what she could have done. Especially because of how much the demon can influence the possessed reality
just get rid off the demon
easy as that
@@marcusplenty1153 I know I know.. In the end it's a movie and stuff needs to happen for it to be entertaining. In a straightjacket with a feeding tube up their throat however, the demon has literally no way of killing the victim. As a psychiatrist, Rose should've known how to behave to end up in a situation like that.
@@lulluf6392 life like that would not be worth it
Thank you so much. You have changed my life. I was being haunted by a demonic spirit, but I remembered this video. I downloaded Raid: Shadow Legends and the demon started to writhe and die in front of me.
I think he was too disgusted by what you just did to continue haunting you
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I was so mad that she kept going to people who wouldn’t Believe here. If this was me I would be going to a spiritualist, priest, exorcist, someone who legitimately believes that something supernatural is haunting me😭
Righttt, I would try to find a priest or someone
To be fair, she’s a psychologist. She’s been hard wired to find a logical solution to every problem.
So even when something far beyond mundane is threatening her, I could see her falling back on what she knows and is comfortable with, even if that only helps the demon by wasting her finite time.
@@stingerjohnny9951yeah and also throughout the story she was in denial at every opportunity of help from people close to her as if the demon was influencing her in a way. The guy said to stay close to as many people as you can yet you can see the demon causes hallucinations which defeats the purpose of having people close to you keeping you sane
I would go read quran😂.
@@rose-yeah I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure this isn’t a Djinn 😜
I think the biggest thing people overlook for beating the demon is that the demon is in her mind and knows all her thoughts. Wanna go on suicide watch? The demon can just trick u into thinking you’ve checked yourself in but turns out you’re just talking to illusions.
Right, but who knows how strong it is at the beginning. Also, the demon can only make you hallucinate your actions. It cannot undo the actions of other people. So if someone were to kidnap you and leave you stranded in some remote location, I don’t think the demon would be able to undo that action.
Exactly your only hope is God in these situations
@@PennywiseTheDancingClown274 damn
@@blugaledoh2669 and just think you better hope it's not part of God's plan that the demon wins...
I think the only way to "trap" the entity is if the victim's friends and family members isolate them in a room in the middle of nowhere and let the victim die alone. The group can't know when the person dies as they'll experience trauma, and the cycle repeats. I say trap because if someone else stumbles upon the body, they'll experience trauma, and the entity continues on, and the group wouldn't know the entity is freed.
The "taking your senses" away idea is actually pretty solid. The curse also appears to be on a time limit and, for some reason, only requires one witness to be present. There must be a reason why infected people just don't slit their throat on times square or somewhere busy. I would take my chances with opaque contact lenses, a pair of headphones and just camping out at a big airport. See when the demon gets bored.
nope. a different country demon gets aWAY
When he mentioned that demons follow rules and laws, i pictured someone trying to free themselves from being haunted by making a legal case against the demon, accusing them of not following their own rules. It sounds like a good base for a legal drama.
There's a webtoon about that
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Why is it that anyone being haunted or something is dating someone who would never believe them? Can we get a real supportive relationship in a horror movie for once? Two heads are better than one anyway.
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Well you can't really ask for that in smile since the whole thing is a commentary on the way people regard mental health
That's reality, hunny.
It follows is a great example of a movie where the victim has a good support system. It’s actually really similar to this movie
Would you believe your brother or sister if they came up to you and said half the shit that happens in horror movies is happening to them and actually believe them?
I just watched it literally 30 minutes ago and I didn't expect to love it so much. The whole twist of her still losing despite all her effort is so scary and yet so real. I saw the creator (I believe that's who it was) talk a bit about it and mentioning how people want to know their monsters are beatable, that they can win the fight. Nothing is scarier than doing everything right, and still losing.
Healing is a lifelong journey, not a 4 day or 2 month or 1 year journey, a lifelong one. The goal isn't to entirely defeat our monsters, but to live with them and let them know that we are the bosses, not them.
I watched it last night and it's easily one of my favourite horrors. It's far less trashy than It Follows, the main character becomes more sympathetic as the film develops and the acting is first-rate. The jump scares are so terrifying I would actually warn people with heart problems not to watch it, not something I can say about almost any other film.
oh! I recommend that you watch The Babadook then, as that is essentially the main message of the film.
It is extremely hard to beat the curse in Smile. Most people don't have the guts to murder someone, let alone in front of a witness. And going to a remote location devoid of people is quite the task when the Smile demon is mindfucking you with hallucinations.
Is smile a true story?
@@gracenwilliams1712 No, but these videos are what if scenarios and how you would survive it if they were.
@@gracenwilliams1712 Do you think that it is possible to be true? 😃
naw it's possible especially once she could build a case for demonic possession.The demon runs off of fear and illusions so don't trust everything you hear or see that just does not make sense.Keep a cool head and don't give it the energy it needs to take over your body.Get somewhere where nothing can harm or kill you since the demon makes you kill yourself in front of someone.Try to get baptized and get unattached from the demon.Do about 6 months to a year in isolation watched by people just to make sure it's good and hopefully you should be good.
My dad said u should do it where bums live because the wont know n dont care which is sad 😭
I love how he keeps it family friendly by not mentioning the fact that the girl slit her own throat and didn’t die all of a sudden
Which girl?
@@Chavanun555 The patient girl at the start
@@LucciRipoff oh ok
Lol
I was wondering about that. I feel like it's an important aspect of the story to leave out though.
20:44 wow, its insane how you accurately guessed this plot idea for Smile 2
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I actually think he caused it rather than predicted. The director definitely watched this video and put it in the sequel.
I always end up watching these videos instead of the actual movie because I don't want to get nightmares
It's still scary but having someone talking over the clips helps me distance myself
Edit: Guys I'm talking about these videos in general not this specific movie, I didn't even watch the video before writing this comment. Stop insulting me already 😞
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I find these videos more entertaining than watching the movie itself.
And there is only one in movie add 😂
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I personally watch stuff like this since my ADHD doesn't let me focus on movies for too long, and a 31 minute rundown with tips how to deal with situations like this makes my brain not only stand this, but crave it while gaining useful knowledge
You’re right, if a patient is having delusions, you don’t tell them that their delusions are false. It’ll only turn them hostile
I tried it… It didn’t end well.
@@lysfranc8782 Nothing to boast about maybe evaluate the way you help patients.
*Also hopefully you get reported.
@@prettyxbonez96 I don't believe they were boasting. They did say it didn't end well so I think it's their way of saying: Hey I know from experience.
@@kyoka1528 If you choose to believe such nonsense whomever that person is needs to do their job correctly.
@@prettyxbonez96 Did they say they do it always? No. People make mistakes and learn from them. Plus, for all you know, it wasn't their job. Making assumptions based off one comment is unnecessary. I'm simply trying to be reasonable and not get mad over one comment.
Edit: ALSO making assumptions based off one comment without trying to reason all the possibilities is nonsense and highly judgemental. You can't assume something based off just a few words said online. If you do, it's unwise. They could of been dealing with a family member and was uneducated at the time. Or it was their first time dealing with a patient who experiences delusions. You don't know therefore you don't have the right to say they were bragging. There's more context that's needed before you can judge anything Simple as that, it's not nonsense. You need context, it's that simple
Usually I agree with HTB's videos, but this one I don't. I watched the movie myself and the "demon" (I quote it because in the movie, it is never clearly stated what it is. It is almost represented like an unknown phenomenon.) is seemingly impossible to rid of, except the obvious that is stated in the movie; to kill someone and have a witness. Or yourself. If you also watch "Laura hasn't slept", which is the prequel to this movie, it gives more insight and just really solidifes that once you get involved with the Smile "thing", that is it, game over.
With that being said, highly recommend anyone to watch this. It is the first good horror movie I've seen in forever, and doesn't have that resolution that most horror movies do.
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But it can't be game over completely. The prisoner who learned about the chain in Brazil was able to escape it by killing someone else, got away
@@youraveragefloridaboy519still game over, you're living the rest of your life in prison.
Him just confidently declaring that someone working on their PhD is naturally not in a poor financial situation had me rolling X'D
Yeah, I was confused. The financial aspect isn't the most absurd aspect of his comment. Most PhDs are known for being extremely stressful (at least, in my country). With extensive working and studying hours, most of the time, you need to work as a team to keep up with classes.
hahaha.. I came to say this.. also mental health issues are more prevalent among PhD students than the rest of the population
lol right? what PhD students does he know that aren't dipping into debt and struggling with anxiety, depression, and insomnia?
@@ezekielmulder1056 I was like oh, they get a STIPEND. Clearly they must be set for life!! Thinking of all the heartbroken, ground-down, miserable PhD students I've ever spoken to lmaaaaaooo
Also him stating that it’s not natural for them to have mental illness. It can happen to anyone.
First girl with the curse didn’t just drop dead. She slit her throat right in front of the doctor. It’s passed by trauma.
He omitted that fact to keep the video family friendly lol
@@tartatovsky I mean he was wrong all along. He claimed stopping your own heart is a way to get rid of the demon or poisoning someone with cyanide cigarettes is going to transfer the demon which is wrong.
He should’ve fixated on the fact that all the suicides were pretty aggressive and harmful, enough to cause trauma.
@@melodym2910yeah , even the survivor said that her patient must make the murder as traumatic as possible
Imagine if she commited suicide infront of a Psychopath instead
@@palpalkc1937 yeah right
Ironically, the way to defeat the demon is to just not care about it. The trauma compounds on itself over time, so if she would have for example just ignored the smiling patient and not give a damn, it would have not gotten more control. And she discovers about the trauma when meeting with the prisoner, so there are dozens of ways of reducing the amount of trauma from then on. It would then slowly get weaker. The hallucinations in the beginning are not very big and/or upsetting or even elaborate, but they become bigger and more elaborate as she becomes more unhinged.
Obviously, it's a movie and all that, but I hate how 90% of the bad stuff could have been easier to get through by simply communicating. Like to her boss: "I think this case has impacted me quite a lot, because I'm starting to see things. Can you give me some medication that will help me calm down?" Et voila. Meds = no trauma. Demon staved off. Another interesting thing, people with depression are less capable of feeling strong emotions. Would this mean depressed people are immune to the curse? Like imagine the scene with the patient going "You are going to die?" and the person replying with: "Yes, please. Can you help?" :D
FYI, she would have lost her job if she asked for medication. To cope. Even for trauma on the job, healthcare professionals are held to a standard that makes this impossible.
@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 after a certain point, i'd rather lose the job.
yeah, she should have asked for meds to numb her emotions a bit atleast and then try to go from there, she would've gottena a bit more time then. also do psychopaths count i mean they dont have fear or morals as normal people so demon would be like wtf do i do with this lad now. XD
That's not how meds work. You don't just snap your fingers and heal from trauma. She'd have to go into full on medicine-induced coma, with no chance of hurting herself or others.
@@WillowJordan1979it’s kind of cool that this concept was used for the sequel
I'm still waiting for a horror movie where the victim immediately begins kicking the spirit's ass. Just charging at it as soon as they see it and laying a good old fashioned ass kicking on it. I bet no demon expects that.
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Willy's Wonderland?
@@amandapanda2142 never heard of it, explain please?
@@bballkid1original Main character beats up possessed animatronics like it's a mild annoyance even though they easily kill teenagers. Really funny and I'm pretty sure it's a reference to horror game protagonists being OP.
Or imagine the person commit his suicide just front of the Doomslayer, poor demon his ass would be kick in a second 😂
This is probably the only movie I watched before how to beat made a video about it. I was very shocked to actually see gore and not just blurs 😂
me too lol
This video was posted during my recovery period after I went to the hospital for jaw surgery and I just got to watching it today and it was very calm and relaxing and really made me feel good during my recovery period...so thank you.
I hope you're recovering well.
@@squirrelgadget3498 what a joke xd
@@soundvector1what? I’m so confused
Wait dude I also was recovering from jaw surgery at the same time lmaoooo. The last scene made me so squeamish it was actually insane
I would pretend that I’m drunk and wasted af and would walk around a dodgy area. When a group of at least two people try to take advantage of me I will murder one of them. I could argue it was in self defence and avoid prison. It’s risky I know but there is no way I’m dying with a stupid ass smile on my face while I pass the curse onto a loved one, or a good person.
The real solution is always in the comments.
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Smart
Smart 😂😂But keep in mind it also has to be a gruesome traumatic murder, itll be pretty hard to call that self defense. Well depending on what state you’re in
And then the other victim would just pass it on to an innocent person…? Ig unless you murdered them too, just to be careful
The solution is just to rip the biggest farts whenever the demon presents itself. Not only do you clear the room of witnesses but you release something so evil from the depths of your ass that even the demon is stumped by the smelly horror.
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This mans spittin
Exactly
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The head bending into the car window legit caught me off guard lmao!
Scared the sht out of me. Wtf. I thought she be back to talk to her sister
Same lmfaoooo
My popcorn just went flying in the cinema at this point 😂💀
Yeah I hate everything about that
What if the trauma she was supposed to overcome was the death of her patient rather than the childhood trauma?
Thats actually true.
Yeah that was definitely it. She just didnt get the memo.
@ChicaTGM huh
@ChicaTGM this video is the movie bro. We all watched it.
Rose had layers of trauma: her mother's death, ending things with Joel, and lastly, Laura's death. This is why she would never have been able to escape the curse.
The demon was harmed by the fire. The fire represents the present. Trauma and stress represent the future and the past. The only way to defeat the devil in your mind is to shed light onto it; self awareness. Thats what this whole movie is about.
Yeah, but it didn't die
@@richpryor9650 the devil was defeated by christ. To an outsider, they may not understand what that sentence means but after that person repents their demons die and the devil has to start all over again. It does not matter what the director does. This is beyond words in the bible. This is common sense. If you see someone smiling at you, you can look away and do other things alpha males do when they see a demon
I think the final scene showed it was futile. It wasn't harmed at all, it was just toying with her.
@@reinismartinsons I was comparing the movie to reality. Wellness is a spiritual battle
I've never heard of fire representing the present and also stress can represent all the tenses of time as thinking of something or dealing with stress can relate to thoughts of the past, present, or future events. So it feels like you're kinda reaching especially since I think the theme of the film has more to do with mental health and how people who have issues both deal with it and are treated by others more so than just how you "defeat the devil in your mind" (especially since she doesn't even defeat it). That and how traumatic events can effect you and by extension other people that you come into contact with creating more trauma.
The thing about this curse is that it is already in her mind and can make her see and do things that aren't real from the very beginning.
In other universes like conjuring the demon has to slowly make the target fear itself so that it can feed of this fear and dominate the target.
I think the smile works similar but instead of trying to implant the fear from outside to take over the victim of the smile gets cursed once they see the previous victim kill itself. The smile then spreads like a virus via inflicted trauma on a person and goes inside their head since non of the things rose saw was ever real.
If the smile can read her mind or not is questionable but it was already way more powerful in the beginning than common demons. It made her kill and wrap her cat as a present without her noticing it which would require a very complex illusion or a temporary full body takeover. Theoretically the whole birthday party and the fight with her sister could have been a illusion to make her think she has no one to trust anymore as it noticed the tension at the restaurant.
I believe for the smile to take over it is required that the victim fears the smile to death which then allows the smile to take over the body and kill them. As we saw the previous girl terrified in a corner in fear it might see the curse again and then escalating in fear completely as the smile pretended to be the therapist. With no escape and the fear to die the smile took over her and killed her in front of rose which inflicted enough trauma to spread over to her.
Now rose as a therapist strongly believes she knows what is real and what's not and trust in herself that she has her life full under her control.
With small hallucinations the curse starts to implant doubts on herself and on her reality but to make her fall from believing in herself it had to show her that she truly had lost control over her actions by killing her cat and make her look crazy in front of everyone.
As a therapist you should have a good understanding how the patients feel if no one trusts or believes them and her fear would of course be that no one believes her and turns against her.
But she held on to believe she could escape or destroy the curse by confronting it so the curse tricked her into believing she defeated it. Thats when she left her guard down and the curse revealed it's trick. Coughed off guard she ran away only to find herself in a way worse position: back at her old house but now with a witness and a reason for the curse to kill her.
She realized that she ran out of time and options to escape and cornered in her old house with her death sentence behind the door the fear of death is very reasonable. A witness to die and the fear of a inevitable death all the requirements for the curse were met as she gave up on her knees accepting death.
My theory on how to beat the curse is do not fall into fear. In the old house in her illusion, i think this was the first time the curse tried to take over her but her believe that without a witness the curse wouldn't kill her she had enough mental strength to dominate the curse even to it could just have taken over her and simply walk to the next piece of civilization.
The curse noticed that she didn't fear it enough and that it couldn't win in this moment so it changed its plan and pretended like it was defeated. Showing her that it was not made her believe that it was invincible and her fear of death came back and gave the curse the upper hand again.
To truly defeat the curse you have to make the curse fear you to death. If in her ex boyfriends apartment she would have faced the curse a second time in stead of running away the curse would have start fearing her realizing she figured out how to beat it and she wouldn't fear it again thus taking its power over her away and leaving the curse vulnerable now.
Knowing that if you don't fear the curse it becomes powerless you will automatically less fear it and it will slowly starve to death.
i don't think thats the case tho i mean if she accepted it where would the demon go? also she tried killing it and i her mind killed it but it turns out she didn't.
i don't think its legitimately possible to kill it. i mean we never even get a clear understanding of what it is. we don't even know if it can be killed. im confused on how tricked her
and what if you were to try and kill yourself?. i mean a witness seems to.be required for it to pass on so what if you deliberately try and end your life early? or what if someome kills you? if you were to die from something that isn't the demons fault amd there were no witnesses wouldn't the demon just cease to exist? idk this seems like the only.way to kill it.
Jesus I'm only eleven and my mind is going curious and I'm so scares of this even happens to me so the curse has to fear me ok
@@Filthy_Furry_Sorrow if I realised this I would literally just start slapping everyone I see smiling
@@Filthy_Furry_Sorrow I'm also 11
@@MythicAce218 thats a good one actually,
I don't think the curse would let you kill yourself, for example if you were to jump of a bridge the curse would probably make you hallucinating the whole thing and after you died you would just wake up on top of the bridge again like rose did in her car as she tried to kill her patient. I don't know why someone else should kill you in your time of being cursed and even if it would probably give said person enough trauma for the curse to spread.
The thing about it is we don't know how to kill it. Everything i theorized earlier is mainly how to survive your first 5 days and dominate the curse.
If you manage to survive 4 days it's likely that you will survive for longer or at least for as long as you don't fear the curse. After that you can experiment if the curse will just stfu forever now or if you can exorcise it, but most likely you will have to live with it forever like a mental disorder.
Film theory made a very nice video about this too might go check it out as well :3
On one hand having a psychiatrist as the main character for a trauma based demon is brilliant; on the other hand she really should have been able to handle it better.
Not really, everyone has blind spots when it comes to ourselves. You can't be a therapist to yourself.
She wasn’t just a psychiatrist, she had deep seeded trauma from her own past and that was fertile feeding grounds for the entity to taunt and torment her with her own expertise almost working against her
@@dayoolaleye1265 That's also probably why the demon even said that her mind was "so inviting"
If you put into factor how emotionally strong humans are, this creatures tactics suddenly seem much smarter. The creature is probably centuries old, which means it either learned from each victim to make its strategies better, or it overall just has foolproof ways to pass on the curse. This video has such good ways at beating the creature but.. how do I say this, it’s kind of like dramatic irony, we know more than the person does in the movie. Even with the good strategies mentioned in this video, there will most likely be a slip-up.
I saw this movie in theaters. I'm not someone that gets scared easily, but there's something about this movie that just scares me to my core. Ever since watching it i've been plagued by occasional nightmares. It's a effective horror movie, but god, I wish I had never watched it. I'm hoping that maybe this video might help a little, think like exposure therapy.
Watch a comfort movie or something non scary you'll get over it like I did
@@MrLoverman7134 yeah it's been two months since I've seen the movie, and whenever memories of it come up I do just binge watch all my comfort content to help. I think one of my main triggers for this movie was most definitely the fact that Mustache the cat looked just like my irl cat
I understand I have to watch home alone lost in New York to get some movies out of my head 😂
@@808andretti6 you have to watch at least two jackass movies back to back to get rid of movies like this
@@MrLoverman7134 facts 😂
It’s literally a metaphor for people that have been traumatized now go on to hurt others either on purpose or accidentally. “Hurt people hurt people”
ngl, one of my biggest fears is disformed/unsettling looking faces (i think the fear is called dysmorphophobia but i could be wrong). even just the thought of seeing someone staring and grinning at me is absolutely terrifying. but i'm obsessed with horror and really wanna watch this movie for the thrills, so i'm tryna use this video as a way to watch it and also with your commentary it's less scary, although i keep finding myself running to the comments to hide from the screen 😭
Idk about those things but I'm sure those smiles are creepy asf
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yeah, that's part of why I hate body horror in movies so much, it's the freakiest type. I can't handle it
same
If you look at yourself in the mirror while the lighting is bluish and a bit dim, your mind will get bored and will change your perception. You will see your face changing into horrific images.
You have to feel sorry for Rose here. Everyone in her life except Joel either turned their backs on her when they could have made a difference, or dismissed her as having a mental breakdown. Her fiancée was no help, but her sister was the worst, as she knew better than anyone the trauma she endured, and washed her hands of her, making this the SECOND time she abandoned her (first time I believe was when they were kids, when she moved out and left Rose there to deal with their mother alone). The reaction at the birthday party disaster was understandable, but I am specifically referring to the sister's behavior afterward. But I think this was a metaphor how many people tend to either not understand or not want to deal with someone who is struggling with their mental health. As I mentioned earlier, Joel tried to help, and he deserves credit for his efforts, but in the end was too late. Maybe (this is probably just me being naïve, but it is a thought anyway) if he had be quick enough to restrain her or somehow try to smother the flames and save her life...
Point is, it comes to show how we need to be with loved ones who are open to trying to understand what we are going through and helping us when we are struggling. That the affirmation that they love us and will help us get through those dark moments, not giving up, instead of having to face them alone...I don't know what difference that would have made here but still...
Perhaps the point is that they did try to help her and she wouldn't accept that she had mental health issues...
She only allowed one person to help her because he was willing to play along with her delusions and it got her killed?
I just watched and I will say, I think that her sister doing that although harsh saved her life. She was bringing trauma to the sisters kid by the cat present and if you think of it from a mental health standpoint, all that would have happened was more trauma for herself and her family. It’s like her sister broke that cycle for her family.
"A student doing her PhD would not only be confident enough, but also be financially and mentally stable.."
Me, doing my PhD, knowing we go through mental and financial issues: 0_0
Anyone doing their PhD is not stable in any way shape or form lmao
I was looking for this - my Master's thesis was bad enough, I couldn't imagine surviving a PhD 😂
This guy just makes horror movies less scarier, he made me overcome my fear or horror movies.
I think one of the smartest plot chooses was to make Rose not believe her patient, because later she experiences what it’s like on the other side of the table when nobody believed her, and yet she couldn’t really blame them.
The cat thing could also be explained. When was the last time she saw her cat? If it’s with a sitter or at a care center then she could call them and confirm the cat wasn’t killed by her. If it was at her home she has a security system that could bring up footage to show what really happened or if that was really the cat or a visual hallucination. And why would people freak out and turn against her if she starts crying over her dead cat. There’s no proof she killed it or knew it was in the box in the first place. The sister seems to just be a bitch and needed to be appeased or avoided. Also not loosing your shit when you see a creepy dead person in the room because you know if you do then they want you to freak out. The cat just…breaks the demon’s tactics.
Literally that whole scene I was like "why is no one helping her? She clearly didn't put Mustache in the box??
@Tonano Exactly, all of them were kids and their parents, she was acting crazy, they would fear her for the sake of their children.
Yeah, watch the footage like when she listened to the footage? Literally anything she could have done could backfire and she could black out again as well. The demon showed her what it wanted her to see as she barely had a part of reality left in her mind, but yeah, I guess she could have tried that if she wasn't losing her mind. People lose their keys and don't remember where they put them. She was losing her shit. It's not unbelievable. If she blacked out and got possessed enough to kill the cat and gift wrap it and clean up the mess, then that's a wrap, the demon won. I would have liked to see her handle the cat like a feminist, but that would be animal cruelty.
@@Goblin_Hands What does feminism have to do here? What is holding her cat like a feminist mean? That’s just weird.
I think it did a good job showing that people would rather stigmatize and blame mentally ill people than do anything to help them. It was a more dramatic version of how everyone had previously (and after) dismissed her as "crazy"
"..and Joel realizes that getting back with your ex is never a good idea," 🤣🤣
I love this channel! Keep up the fantastic work!
When I first saw that cat I instantly knew that they were going to do something crazy to it but I never thought it was going to be that messed up when the kid opened the present on his birthday being scarred and paralyzed by what he just witnessed
I hate when they do that in movies they always introduce some animal or pet just to kill it off to build tension from it and I know the cat wasn't actually hurt but still there's no need for it
@@MrLoverman7134 Right it’s so unnecessary like who are they even trying to impress with that crap they put in these movies it’s so stupid
I enjoy how confidently you keep saying that supernatural entities are bound by rules, as if they're something real
This is honestly a normal memetic hazard. Hearing the whisper infects your mind creating the halucinations and the whole being haunted..
Class B amnestics to all affected, quaranteen, down the internet, radio and exclude audio in tv.
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The whole movie I was trying to give it a classification and a description for further official research by the foundation. It was green lit by Dr.███████
@@christianephrem160 investigation into possible use as a kill agent is forbiden, but a copy should be kept at a laptop at site ###### with removed data ports and speakers for potential study of the percieved entity.
we can use a couple of class D personel to test its full limits
Bright’s at it again!
To beat the monster, wouldn't it be to come to terms and accept the aka accepting the monster? Instead of running from the mom demon thing, she should have walked up to her and hugged her, fighting back is what feeds the monster, accepting it is overcoming it
Ah, so you chose the pacifist route.
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@@oculosis secret otome ending: romance the monster
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@@robloxinternationalvideos6503monster kinda hot ngl
I think the demon or entity in smile has the ability to put you into some kind of illusion if you do something to break the curse. Unless there's some kind ritual that would kill the entity. If they just trace where it all begun they will surely know how to beat that demon.
One way to tell if someone is the demon or not, such as the therapist when she showed up at the woman's house, would be to ask personal questions that the demon wouldn't be able to answer. The demon wouldn't know things like the birthday or the name of the significant other of whoever they're disguised as, so if they dodge the question you can easily tell they are a hallucination.
When knowing its a demon through this method, you could try laughing in its face and mocking it, since it relies on trauma, this would give you a better time in dealing with it. Hell I deal with hallucinations myself that are usually people and I tend to call them names and stuff to deal with it.
The demon relies on someone witnessing a death and being traumatized by it in order to pass on to another victim. With this in mind, you could easily wander into an area like a national park or forest and, well, kill yourself out of sight of everyone and let your body be eaten by animals living in the area or degrade over time, if you can't beat it after all, might as well make it go down with you.
If you isolate yourself for long enough with the demon, you'll know that it is messing with you when it disguises as others, especially if you don't tell anyone where you're going. The demon at that point may run out of options if it can't get you to kill yourself in front of others, since you'd be on your own so the curse wouldn't pass on.
Yeah, but if the demon has access to your mental. It could pull the details to answer whatever question you ask. But again, unless I’m forgetting something, we don’t know how much access to our memories/brain it has. Also if we try to take our own lives, it’s possible that it’ll make us hallucinate that or just take over our bodies and wait/bring a witness
Bro wrote an entire essay
@@dr.penguin3442 how can you counter something like that ?
@@numberone2676 u dont. U always lose. The movie made the demon too OP
@@numberone2676 it seems impossible right now unless there’s something we don’t know
That movie was easily one of the best movies I saw the last couple of years.
Remembered me of "It follows" which I also loved.
That movie was so great in the movie theatre, the sound was great.
I watched it later at home at it was not even 50% as great as it was when I watched it the first time in the theatre.
"If your own therapist is trying to kill you, you aren't living the right way" - How to Beat , 2022
Genjutsu of that level won’t work on me
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Katana Zero moment.
you realize that when you kill someone to pass on the curse it has to be extremely traumatic for every witness there
Exactly! Tha man in jail said that it has to be gruesome enough to cause trauma. Stopping a heart then restarting it again wouldn't work. It's a controlled environment with precautions in place if something were to go wrong.
I came here from the smile 2 trailer and I didn’t even know smile 1 or 2 were movies so I automatically assumed that they are a fan film based on the smile tapes and I went to this channel to prove my suspicions and I am amazed by how strong the connections to the smile tapes are in this movie and no one even got sued
This movie was so good. I was legit creeped out and on edge the whole time, and I have watched a lot of horror movies and none have got me like this one did
Exactly like this is the scariest movie I have ever seened
Hereditery is also very scary!
@@olha2415 I see a lot of people saying that, but for me it really wasnt. It had its moments and amazing acting but not that scary for me. Maybe bcs I like that type of horror
I was actually thoroughly surprised with the movie. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be and it was one of the better horror movies of 2022
The ending left me feeling something else for sure
Yea, same. I didn't know what to expect, but I was positively surprised.
True! And the actress also did an amazing job. I don't visit the cinema often for horror but this one was worth it
@psyche hereditary, midsummer, and now smile have all been really good steps in the horror genre imo
@psyche I watched her on Disney as a kid loved her then LOVE her now
That thumbnail was nightmare fuel and I will not be sleeping tonight.
19:08 was the scariest jump scare I have ever seen
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I almost bent the same way i shook so hard lol
Literally that was so random to me 😂 I jumped
Saw it in the cinema, I just pressed my eyes shut. I thought her head had fall off😂 first time I see that it actually was just hanging and smiling 😹😹
That shit made me crease 😂 I wasn’t expecting it but my mind straight away pictured it saying “Hi how are ya?” 😂😂
I suggest those who hadn't watched the movie to watch it, the sound and tension is so well done probably one of the scariest movies I've seen in years.
Then you haven’t experienced real horror movies yet, these demon flicks are so boring, I just fall asleep, or end up playing on my phone, these are a dime a dozen, and are used so much, most directors don’t do it right. Saw is a real horror, Halloween is a real horror, texas chainsaw is a horror, all of these are REAL horror movies.
@@loganwolverine5849 don’t forget the Thing (carpenter’s version at least)
@@loganwolverine5849 saw is mostly gore, not horror. It tries to gross you out, not scare you.
This movie was more funny than scary. When the doctor ripped his face off while she was stabbing the patient, i bursted out laughing in the cinema or when the mothermonster showed itself, i also bursted out laughing cause it kinda looked like michael jackson
@@loganwolverine5849 everything you named (saw, texas chainsaw massacre, Halloween) aren‘t real classic horror movies. They‘re all splatter and slasher genres. Texas & Saw try to gross you out and make you feel disgusted, Halloween is a common 90s slasher movie where a group of people get hunted and killed. Classical horror movies are the grudge, the exorcist, the shining, the conjuring and so on.
Your resuscitation strategy is exactly whats hinted at in smile 2! Good Job predicting it 1 year ago!
Since watching this movie, was looking forward to what this TH-camr's take on how to beat the Smile Demon. Unfortunatly in all honesty there isnt a way to beat( and if there is more than 1 survivor like the inmate, your life is essentially ruined since there are worse things then death) it by planning, since the Smile demon has shown to warp the host's sense of reality and trick them into thinking they do something or experience something but its all a hallucination, thus making any planned contigencies pointless since the host's mind is slowly breaking down and succumbing to the Demon so it can posssess them for the final act to find another host. This thing is most likely centuries, if not thousands of years old and thus has foolproof method of ensuring its curse passes on
This is why demon movies are laughable now, and anyone who says it’s good doesn’t know what REAL horror movies are.
@Logan Wolverine enlighten us to what real horror is 🤣😂😆
Nothing is unbeatable, might be hard or nearly impossible, but it's also a being and hubris comes before a downfall.
@@thewillofdreams6921 Definitly agree with you nothing is unbeatable but with each passing minute/day, your mental state is declining thus preventing you from making the best/logical decisions. Thus decreasing your chances of beating this thing. With us looking from the outside, it is easy to suggest better solutions to this but once a person is experiencing said problem, everyone will react and handle it differently.
@@Desipapa8989 Well one thing we know is that the demon has to traumatize people to enter them. The stronger that trauma + pre-existing trauma, is the stronger presence the demon has on the host. As Carl (the cop’s name right?) says that victims have as little as 4 days (heavy trauma like Rose), to a whole week.
Him being a police officer it’s likely he has seen gruesome events. Doesn’t seem like he had pre-existing trauma. So, at least he’d have 5 days and with pre-existing knowledge of the demon and a way to stop it, his mind would be more hardened.
He could transfer the curse to someone by murdering in front a spectator, then possibly kill the spectator. But yea the rules weren’t clear in this movie
I've seen death, one moment someone's living, the next they aren't. It's tragic, but you understand this is life and things happen outside of your control no matter how hard you work to save someone it isn't always good enough. 3 years as a VFF I've seen people die in crashes, smoke inhalation etc.
You accept that you've done all you can. You basically detach yourself from emotion to do your job.
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If the entity could be tricked into latching onto someone who’s already suicidal, what’s to stop that person from just going into the woods and “taking one for the team”, so to speak? Without witnesses, there’d be no way for it to spread
When she headed off to her childhood house I actually thought that's where the movie was going 😅
Like "wow, this mental health themed movie is gonna have _that_ be the solution??"
“She fell dead for no aperent reason”
In the movie She literaly cuta her own neck with some glass that she broke of the table, all while smiling.
It's so he doesn't have to say she committed suicide because of TH-cam's policy. Demonetization and all that jazz
If you watched the movie right, the first time she gets posessed and literally drops dead. When the psychiatrist turns around she is gone from the floor and then the cycle goes on
I thought this movie was pretty funny. I always wondered what the demon would do if some sociopath witnessed the suicide and just felt no trauma. What would the demon do? What if the planned victim was just like "damn bro that's crazy...anyways". Would the demon just die?
Average yb fan wouldn’t react
Also somebody in Ohio
The "poisoning" someone else method to transfer the curse makes no sense and wouldn't work. Wasn't it stated that:
1. The possessed person needs to commit the act while he/she, the victim and another person (who will be transferred to) witnessing it are all present.
2. It needs to be as traumatizing and violent as possible to work.
If we go with your suggestion, it will take up to 3 days for the person to be gone and most likely that person will think is just sick and stay at home and be alone, or if someone is there, they'll just think the person is sick and call 911 even before that and it won't be traumatizing/violent enough + the person who tried to transfer it won't be present when it happens. So this is not a viable method to do it.
I was thinking the same, this is just not going to work. That's why all other deaths in Smile 1&2 are so violent, because it needs to traumatize the next victim enough and cement it in their mind. Also other things in the video make no sense like surrounding yourself with 2 or more people when we know the demon can not only manipulate your reality, but take control of you making you do stuff you have no idea of and even make time skip for you without knowing. So being with other people can put them in more danger and you don't know if your reality is the "true" reality.
I feel he was writing the script minute by minute while watching the movie at the same time and after that he didn't go back to correct things that have been shown/explained later.
Honestly, this is the movie that should’ve been named “Nope“, cause I was saying it over and over while watching it.
Another solution would be to put the infected in a coma with restraints, and if the person wakes up as themselves or the demon, just knock them out again. It would literally be impossible for the person to harm themselves and the demon would starve.
I agree, this would be a worthy idea to explore 🤔
Well it seems like the demon has the power to change the actual reality.
First it literally killed the cat and took the body.
And notice how the dead cat was switched with the kid’s train present. Rose never did this, the item got wrapped at the store, so the demon has more abilities we can’t be sure off.
Most likely it would remove the restraints.
@@KeemJL I don't think that's it. I think the entity only exists in the mind of a person, not in the material world.
This is shown by the little boy who received the cat, when he looked outside his window only to see the main character losing her mind in her car. From her perspective, we can see her sister's neck bend awkwardly through the car window. From the boy's perspective, we only see her getting terrified in her car. During the birthday itself, she sees her dead patient, but nobody else sees her.
The entity doesn't change reality, it tricks the mind and can not actually physically do things aside from possessing people who are in a weak mental state. Even in the end fight, we see the entity burn and the mc return to the cop's house. But later on, we realize that none of this actually happened as she's back in her old home in front of it (the entity). Everything was just mental torment to get the mc in a weaker state so the entity could feed off her and possess her when the time came.
With that being said, I believe that the mc did kill her cat, thinking she was doing something else. Again, let's go back to the end scene where she thinks she's in the cop's house. She sees the house, and the cop, and believes that that is actually happening. But then the scene cuts back to her being in the old house. She probably thought she was making dinner or something when in reality, she was killing her cat and putting it in the gift box.
I didn't use names because I watched this movie a while ago and forgot them, and I haven't fully watched the video yet.
But, the protagonist did pretty much the same with her mother and it still caused her trauma. So the curse might still get transferred
@@nikolaosboukouvalas449 But it isn't confirmed that her mother faced the entity.
Having read a lot of psychology and therapy textbooks, I absolutely agree with your assessment at the beginning: a therapist absolutely should not open by telling a patient that everything is okay and things aren't as bad as they seem. That is antagonistic, already telling the patient you don't trust them to know what they're talking about, and that you don't believe them or take them seriously. Nobody wants to be talked to like that, and it will never help your work.
This demon: “I am inevitable.”
Me with 100% VA claims because of PTSD: “And I am Iron Man”
The way he just kept smiling in the outro, gave me chills!
The best reason to watch this man is because he basically recaps movies for free.
I feel like people that stare at you and just smile without saying nothing is one of the creepiest shit on earth
Idk why but I love when he pauses and then says “Okay-“ 😂
Same
Same! I literally watch these instead of the actual movie itself cause I'm a wuss🤣
Wow this is so close to how the doctor predicted how to defeat the smile demon in smile 2
Yup I'm guessing the director watched this video and inclueded it in the sequel
@@gamejester. or it might just be a convenient coincidence
What if the victim of the demon commits suicide in isolation? Will the demon just stop haunting people? or will it find another way to reenter our realm?
It won’t let you commit suicide in isolation, it’s shown it can affect what you see. So it can convince you that you are off alone in the woods while you are walking back into a populated area
@@NicoletteCwhat if I gouged my own eyes and die bleeding out my eyes?
@@NicoletteC well if you're in a situation like the ex boyfriend as soon as you see Rose turn herself into a flambéd flower he could shoot himself with his service pistol.
Yeah when I was watching I thought that was the ending they were going for. Was very shocked 😭
@@jd3thegreat That's a good point, because it would only have latched onto him for a few seconds and he would have more control of his own actions, but human nature makes us think we can figure out a way to survive :(
I really have come to value the "have a damn good day" at the end of these! Particularly in this one, I love your smile while saying it.
Nah bro predicted smile 2 that’s crazy 20:40
Also based on her physical condition the woman is probably sleep deprived enough to have already suffered from hallucinations and paranoia just as a side effect of lack of sleep.
That could be why people didn't were less likely to believe her, they thought it was just sleep deprivation
@@sylent1 true but I was referring to the college students in the very beginning and it takes several days of sleep deprivation to cause hallucinations. Either way the best thing you do would be to give the college girl on mild sedative.
Question. If you were to kill in front of someone who wouldn't get traumatized by this, would you still have the curse? Or would it be forced to pass on, but get denied access to the next person, because this person didn't experience trauma. If this were to be the case, murdering someone in front of a serial killer would be a permanent way to defeat this creature.
It wouldn't spread as the entity spreads through trauma. The entity will stay inside you if there's no trauma in the death.
Now, if you killed someone traumatically and kill the next host, you could beat the entity. However, it won't work because now the entity knows what you know and will make constant hallucinations until it kills you.
After watching the sequel ... yeah, aint no way to beat this demon in practice.
The “If you…” at the beginning always cheers me up.
I would wonder why all victims take at least 4 days to die. It seems the demon cannot kill you until you’re “ready”, as in until trauma has consumed you and you have given up. Maybe shock therapy might work, like ECT? there is evidence that suggests ECT can improve PTSD symptoms.
You can see over time the demon appears more often and gets more aggressive maybe he waits for days until he's done playing with the victim and just decides to kill it off and move on to the next one
I think demon can kill at any moment but it just loves torturing it's victims. That's why it waits for few days. It loves being sadistic
I think it can kill you any time it wants. But enjoys playing with its food. Its seasoning the meal, so to speak.
Problem with poisoning someone is that the death has to be traumatic and witnessed. They can't die in their sleep.
9:56 "Rose picks up a knife"
VERY CLEARLY HOLDING A PEAR OF SCISSORS!!
Im sorry, but i find it kinda funny.
Reading that one word at a time, I immediately got the mental image of someone brandishing a pear like a knife, which I found amusing.
@@Aquilenne so like this?: 😠🍐
Another method you could try when you find out the demon will go if you kill someone with a witness is kill someone in a game while a stranger is watching since it still has the definition as killing and the demon may be forced to swap over since they have a certain set if rules, and if it fails its only 10 minutes gone.
Bro u are god
Eh, almost definitely not. The movie talks about the death needing to be gruesome because it's based on trauma, and killing someone in a game is very unlikely to create trauma for anyone watching (unless you're talking about actually killing someone but calling what you're doing when it happens a game).
It's like the demon is watching pron and it'll be satisfied.
No, the prisoner said it feeds off trauma. It needs to be a real, messy, horrifying death
crazy how smile 2 debunks all of this
What upset me about this movie is that it makes you think her overcoming and learning to deal with the trauma of her past and thus being able to appear to fight back against the entity made me so mad, she did it, she learned to deal with and accept what happened...and overcame it only to still give up at the end and accept it taking her over. Then the guy...like dude if you can't get through the door quickly there are some windows you could easily get in through...then on top of that you see her pouring something over herself and once you saw that smile you should have tackled her to keep it from being able to use her to get to him, at the very least they would have probably both died or there be no witness during the process thus probably not allowing it to transfer.
Right! In the scene at the end I was yelling "dude don't look!", since he knows the curse transmits by witnessing something traumatic, he should be aware!
@@morphogenetic_, let's be honest the man could've done so many things but became a Deer in Headlights. Also if he calls this in I wonder how the cops would react....ok you know what I would support making a sequel. There's to much lore setup that isn't given justice that needs to be touched up on, and I want to know how it goes on to affect him and how he reacts to it.
Ok, so if they don't make a Squeal that does the Movie justice with what happened to the first movie I will be greatly upset.
"It was a box office success, grossing $216 million worldwide against a $17 million budget." -- Wikipedia
So excluding any unknown expenses (anything not listed as a cost in the budget) this movie nearly made $200 Million in profit.
“Dropped dead for no good reason”
*sees she dies from an ear to ear glass shard to the neck*
Uh…..yes. That might have had something to do with it.
Suesan wouldn't like to hear that
You cannot say that one word on TH-cam.
Oh God thought you typed drop-dead gorgeous, wow dyslexia does wonders to the brain lol
Gotta love t
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I wouldn't even wish this Curse upon my worst enemy.
I was so hoping for a video today and when this came out I burst into happiness!!!😂😂
Just when you think the smiles can't get any creepier they just keep one upping eachother.
The birthday part almost made me leave the theater in fear.
The "and Joel realizes that going back to your ex is never a good idea" should be a lesson to resonate with you... And yes I'm talking to you reading my comment with your left leg on top of the right one... And go to sleep, scary movies are scarier at night.
PS.
My condolences for your lost btw
i kept scrolling bc i thought my right leg was on top but i checked and its my left. terrifying
how the heck
wrong, my right leg is over my left and it's 8am
How my eyes widened when I realized that's exactly how I'm sitting not to add the fact that I'm feeling sleepy
Bruh ain't no way
I saw the trailer for this, and that split second when her sister’s head swiveled to see in the car window, my soul left my body. Ugh. That effed me up lol.
This movie was the only movie I've seen in years that legitimately creeped me tf out.
I wonder what would happen if you save the person trying to kill themselves? For instance, she is trying to burn herself to death, what if he puts her out before she can completely succumb to and die from her injuries? Wouldn't that cancel out the effect?
It would be interesting to see what the possessed person would wind up doing in that scenario
once they've awoken though they'd probably just try again
THIS.... this is one of the ACTUALLY scary videos! the explaining is scary enough, but now i feel like i keep being watched. and idk why but I'M starting to smile
Welp, your dead
This movie shocked me and traumatized me, and it was a very good movie, and the creature was horrific
If I get possessed, I’ll just play Raid Shadow Legends and I’ll be fine
13:18 Running away before it's too late is a great strategy, especially since she is dating A-Train.
I'm pretty sure they listened to you in Smile 2