@@oreally8605 true! I know someone whose a HVAC technician and he keeps good money. His wife is a preschool teacher and she's got student loans she's still paying off for her Master's degree.
I had to go to school to be an electrical technician and had to go to a university so my transcripts transferred and allowed me access to become an electrical engineer in 4 years without pulling student loans because of financial aid and scholarships. College is a scam if you don’t know what you’re doing.
That’s why religious Oral Robert university paid off all their student loans after Covid with taxpayers money. No one cried about that because they didn’t know🤣🤣🤣🤣it’s online to read…..hush payments
@@Fuzzyakm correct, most of which are not being payed for by them, but by organizations they request money from. My point was there is too much student loan debt and not enough quality education to make it remotely worth it
@khatdubell I'm not answering a troll. You have a 17 year old youtube account with one video which proves you only use youtube to be a troll, congratulations!
Are you serious? 90 to 200K a year? to the commenter who insults that, why would you insult that? This is a person that doesn't deal with soul-sucking politics of a typical corporate job and has job security and makes a great living
i pay my student loans but I honestly wouldn’t mind if the federal government wiped some or all of it. Doesn’t mean i’ll actively support Biden or Bernie though
I dont understand your comment. Do you pay every student who went to college to be a doctor? Perhaps you should look at the people who went to school to become a doctor vs the small percentage who become doctors. Also you have to consider that 75% of those premed students are in an avg debt of $200,000. A person having to pay for a doctor isnt a legit argument regarding the value of a college education @@AnabelleLee100
False. You don't have to be incredibly smart to get into trade, you just have to be good at what you do. How do you do that? You practice and work, I'm 15 currently and can code pretty well. Im not learning it in school, I learn on my own time and for fun@@ragecage_2735
1:59 Learning how to work in college? I learned how to work when I was a twelve year old washing dishes in a restaurant. That ethic has served me well in life.
I was going to say. I'm not sure how he decided that when college is essentially a 4 year party of drugs and alcohol with a few hours of memorizing worthless things to pass a test.
It's normal, even while listening to Bloomberg I heard a segment where the women were saying that the data shows that college isn't worth it but at the same time they still want to promote College
@@metalhd7277 No - his parents are probably not taxpayers. They probably net more taxpayer money then they pay in. That's why they have a child who doesn't mind wasting his time in college - he knows that eventually YOU and I will foot his bills.
I asked the weed man at the gas station (very young guy) why my son doesnt even want to hang out one day a week.. he said; what 15 year old, wants to be with his parents.. NONE. it was a gut punch for me.. but I took it!
My buddy got a quote for a new kitchen island. Not a gut tear out kitchen remodel. Just the island, and this is rural Wisconsin. The quote was 45k. He of course didn’t go with it but the lowest quote was 22k. My point being that these tradesmen can name their price since no one knows how to do anything anymore. Stay away from college young people. It is the biggest scam on earth.
I told a buddy that has almost college age daughters; All you really need to do is go to these trade schools and get educated or hire the graduates to start a business.. youd make more than a doctor in 6 months. -I didnt say they wouldnt have to work, but some things "you just have to do.."
ok whats your point? thats a 1 off private school that only the wealthy elite get into. Theres plenty of state schools you can go to for ~$10k (without scholarships) and still major in STEM or accounting or something statisctally good and do great.
@@mountainman6030 name one. Tution across the board has gone up the last 20 years. For example, in 2000, tuition at California State University Long Beach (CSULB) was $1,700, and tuition and fees were $9,080. In 1999-2000, the average tuition at a public 4-year institution was $3,349, with a yearly growth rate of 8.8%. For the 2023-2024 academic year, California State University Long Beach's tuition and fees are $6,904 for in-state students and $17,200 for out-of-state students. Room and board costs $15,612. That's a 400% increase.
@@mountainman6030 also, I'm not wealthy and I was accepted into both Cornell and Columbia. That's how I know how much tution was 20 years ago. And CSULB was my fallback school. $10,000 a year for a state school is still a rip off.
The return on investment (ROI) is rapidly falling. Most people do not know paying compounded interest on a high principal loan amount get significantly tougher.
This is so true, I knew someone that applied for government loans to complete a four year art degree. I’m in the UK. If you go into that sector you have to repay the loan but if you don’t then you don’t have to repay. So tax payers were forced to throw away their money funding a person to…play around. She now works for mental health in a prison, she’s never had a job that she’s needed an art degree.
Wow that's a WIN win for college students in UK. You either get the job of your "dreams" and then make money and pay off the loan or you don't and owe nothing. I wish I could have gone to college under those conditions.
Spent 3.5 years at University on a computer science Bachelors. Dropped out and became a truck driver hauling HazMat. I make 135k a year. I'm very happy and have a very good life. My total college burden was about $14k because of my US GI Bill benefits. Paid back the student loans. Ended up with a great hobby of building and repairing computers for family, friends and co-workers. I don't regret college one bit, but definitely did not need it to make a good living and support my family. Many of my co-workers have a similar story with college, dropping out to make money to support themselves and family.
May I ask which company you worked for that pays 135k? I used to haul hazmat for a few months in 2014, but it was the standard 1k/week pay, just like everywhere else. Still the same to this day, hauling grain feed. I'm only making 65k-70k.
Grauduated from a State university in 2006. It was relatively cheap back then. And the career field Im in requires a degree. Fast forward to today, I would never recommend college unless you are going into medicine or becoming an engineer.
I just did a presentation/speech that college isnt the best option to my class of graduating highschool seinors and the amount of people annoyed or upset was suprising. Schools condition these kids young. :(
Or a professor of business environment bragging that he has been teaching at the college since the 70s - then sharing his business experience from the 60s - in the 90-2000s. That was money well spent - He says completely unseriously.
When you are in the trades, you: 1) don't go into massive debt 2) You don't need to get involved in soul-sucking office politics 3) You sleep way better at night actually having physically worked that day 4) You more than likely are not obese like so many are 5) You end up getting to know other people in the trades and you barter with each other for services and even side gigs together to save money, or making money 6) You can look back on your day with the satisfaction of SEEING that you accomplished something. The best people you will ever meet typically, are tradespeople. Good old fashioned down-to-earth hard-working salt of the earth people, and oh yeah, probably a 90% chance they have conservative values - you know, the kind of people that believe in earning and making your own way in life - no victim mentality excuses
@rohandhanota9944I work at a water utility, it’s state run, have great retirement, mostly easy physical work and multiple depts I can apprenticeship into. I feel like I won a “set for life” lottery 😂
1000% agree! One of my sons will be going into a trade this year, after summer break. For all the reasons you mentioned. He is an old soul in a young body. A man of few words, and someone who needs to use his hands to feel whole. I think this will be perfect for him.
@rohandhanota9944 Please go with your gut. Read my comment above. It sounds like a trade would be perfect for you. Also, you will be in high demand in 20 years, when everyone has nicely framed papers on their walls, but nobody knows how to replace their own hot water tanks or change a lightbulb!
@rohandhanota9944 You and Cassiem will both do well. You will not regret the decision. Your body won't wear down as long as you work smart, use the proper tools which are designed to do the job with less exertion from you, learn about things like Yoga or anything that keeps you limber, and eat properly. You will have all kinds of cash jobs offered on the side, and you will have excellent benefits, and if you decide to learn about things like framing and roofing and painting and other trades, you can always have your own side projects like rehabbing and selling houses, if you want to, to make excellent side money. You can live extremely well and like I said, there is no price you can put on for not dealing with office politics crap. Don't get me wrong, some people are wired for that stuff, but they are typically narcissists and sociopathic types. That sounds over the top to say that, but those are personality traits that thrive in political corporate environments, so if you aren't that, you will suffer spiritually and you will find yourself selling your soul and you don't want that if you can do another path. GOOD LUCK!
@rohandhanota9944be an electrician, theres so many options to go into. I went into controls technician and you can earn alot of money and travel the world which i’m doing now.
As someone who recruits workers. I will recruit anyone who has two values. Work ethic and willingness to learn. These two values should have been instilled in you growing up at home. IMHO 😊
100% my daughter trains doctors and nurses at health clinics when they're brought online with electronic med systems. She makes 98,000 a year. No college ay all.
I have a degree in Economics and minor in Business Management and will tell you college is a scam! It's a waste of time and waste of money. And I literally got nothing from it, except four more years of partying! LOL
Yep. Degree of marketing here. Could of cut out 70% of my classes and I would of been fine. The college system just wants to milk as much money as they can from you.
Accountant here. 95% of what I know and actually do was learned on the job. I tell new accountants or accounting students this.. the degree is a prerequisite to real learning.
@@29_lets_go , true, as I have experienced the very same thing. Now, I would really say that college has helped me get a job way easier, and familiarize myself with certain topics, that's mostly it doe. ( obviously knowing accounting did help too doe, made it much easier )
The whole "you can't be anything in life if you don't go to college" nonsense was all we ever heard going to grade school. I work with so many people who have degrees that are going to waste that it's sickening. The only folks i know who are actually using their degrees are Teachers and Scientists (chemist and microbiologist). When the doctor down the street makes less than the plumber two doors down, ya know you were scammed.
I dropped out of college, went to work at the phone company, later i built my first computer from a kit in the 70s, taught myself to code and had a 20 year career as a software engineer/analyst.
4.0 college grad, learned nothing and I still can't get a job that aligns with my degree because I lack work experience despite my legal and political internships. The system is completely broken.
I went to college but dropped out eventually. Worked as a mechanic for some years before going to a now defunct 9 month trade school for software programming for $13k. Fast forward 25 years, I have a home, 2 cars, etc. IMO, it’s how badly you WANT success not how many stinking badges you have.
I have no college degree… I got a job when I was 20 and 10 years later I’m still in the same industry and I have so much experience I can get a job anywhere.
I have three kids that none went to college. First one is a CPhTech., beautician, fitness trainer and has her own meal prep business, the 2nd one is an assistant manager for BOA for 25 years. Lastly my son has been an electrician for 22 years and don't own any college money 😊.
@rohandhanota9944 he'd be making more if he had his license. But he's afraid of taking the test because according to him he's been out of school 20 years and is afraid of not passing. His loss. I know he's making $29/hr.
There was another video with this on it, and I was just watching it. It had a comment from a doctor on it stating his college degree was a scam. I wanted to save that video, but YT took it off my watch history, and I was in the middle of watching it. Put it on hold and then it disappeared. This is insane....and infuriating! Of course, not surprising!
He comes up to Charlie and accuse HIM of wasting his time. I guess it’s really hard to not stop and Ask questions. amongst the things they haven’t learned is time management in college.
115k a year for a plumber? What? I'm in the wrong country. In UK it's 28K a year for a plumber and 34k with gas tickets too, plus higher bills, higher tax and the list goes on, UK sucks!
You can get an Engineering license as an apprenticeship program in the USA, it takes 8 years, instead of 4 years of school plus 4 years as a junior engineer
I’m a civil engineer and this total BS to even apply for the professional license you NEED to have finished a bachelors in civil engineering and pass an exit exam
@@davidr2299 I also used to think that. I have a civil and mechanical degree and when I was getting ready to take my FE or EIT test with the state I found out that if you have been apprenticing at an Eng. firm for 8 years you are eligible to take the test and if you have an Associate's degree plus 4 yrs as an intern you can take the test. Most people do not know this. I did not know that till a state official in WA and OR informed me of those other options. Most people are told the only way to do it is through college. It may be different in your state, but many states except work experience to get the license. After passing the EIT or FE out here you have to hold it for I think 4 yrs before you can test for a PE, Professional Engineer License, and not have to work under another engineer. Ps School did not help my spelling,
@@davidr2299 It Looks like my last reply did not work. Each state has different requirements to get a PE. When I started preparing for my EIT, or FE test after I finished my Civil and Mechanical engineering degree in OR and WA, I was told if I had work experience or an Associated Deg, I could set for the FE test. After I passed the FE, I would have to work as a junior engineer longer if I used work experience it would be plus 8yrs or if I had an Associate degree it would be plus 4yrs, and if I had a Bachelor it would be 1yr credit for each bachelor deg lowering the time as a FE two 2 year before being eligible to take the PE test
I believe this aswel i wasn't learning anything at university studying mechanical engineering after 3 months so i went to make money instead. I learned more in the construction industry and being a mechanic than anywhere else
_"If you come here to get educated, you guys are going for the wrong thing. This is just a glorified credentialing exercise."_ @1:26 That reminds me of entrepreneur Dan Sullivan's observation that: _"The school system is really heavy on credentials. But all the credentials in the world don't guarantee you any kind of capability, except the capability to get credentials. And all the capability in the world doesn't require credentials."_
It’s difficult to get people of any age to admit they could possibly be scammed when they have an invested interest. Nobody wants to admit they could have been manipulated.
The saddest thing about this video is the college students that TRIED to debate Charlie only proved his point, these people ARE being scammed and don’t realise just how much they are gonna end up paying for their so called “Education”
'Learn to code in 6 months and go to Salesforce and earn 180k/year' - lol. People with these opinions are the reason why the IT workforce has such high amount of low skill workers nowadays.
Yep, I got a bachelor's in finance, never used it. Almost 37 years old. Even if I did use it, nearly all jobs requiring this degree require supplemental licenses that are harder to obtain than the bachelor degree is. It's a total joke.
You can be educated by someone who does mechanic work on vehicles. It's called interning from a mentor. Once you have learned from your mentor you may proceed to create your own job from the experienced you have gained. I agree with Charlie Kirk.
Plumber here quit college, joined the military, traveled the world, have a family. 120k a year easy, it takes work but I’m happy and love life! God bless!
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
The average cost of a 4 year college degree in the USA in 2024 is $213,000. This doesn’t include the interest. The amount borrowed after interest is $351,450. Who thinks that going into debt this amount by your early 20s is wise?
My 18 yr old son took welding in high school, then went to tech school for 6 months to get certified as a welder. He started at $75k/yr, at 18yrs old & has no student loan debt.
What about the engineering part, needed them to just do the code industry? So no structural / civil / mechanical engineering needed in this society and all working in the code industry?
I did a degree in engineering 40 years ago. My nephew has started the same degree - or at least a degree with the same title. He didn’t do high level maths at high school. I told him to be careful, because the hardest part of my degree was the high level maths, which I found to be heavy going stuff. He sailed through his first years with no problems and got really high marks, much better than I did. I asked him how he coped with the calculus, J notation, imaginary numbers and so on that I struggled with - and he didn’t even know what I was talking about. It seems like the current idea is ‘look up the answer on the internet’ or get an app to do it for you.
My parents didn’t go to college and are multi-millionaires… not that their money is mine, but I didn’t have formal college training either, and didn’t need it after I landed a job with some secretarial skills and common sense at a law firm. It was learn as I go, from there! ! We are our best teachers. I’m still my best student.
The funny thing is as the second year I dropped out of college. I kept in touch with two college buddies that went all the way and graduated. By the time they graduated I was making really good money. When they finally got out and entered the workforce I was making more than double than what they were getting if you added their combine salaries. And not only that they had student loans on top of that where I didn't. I agree that colleges are definitely a scam.
Vocational and Trade schools can really make a difference.
Air Conditioning men make six figures. Driving around in Corvettes on the weekend.
Agreed
Exactly!!
@@oreally8605 true! I know someone whose a HVAC technician and he keeps good money. His wife is a preschool teacher and she's got student loans she's still paying off for her Master's degree.
I had to go to school to be an electrical technician and had to go to a university so my transcripts transferred and allowed me access to become an electrical engineer in 4 years without pulling student loans because of financial aid and scholarships. College is a scam if you don’t know what you’re doing.
And then he cries until someone pays for his student loans.
That’s why religious Oral Robert university paid off all their student loans after Covid with taxpayers money. No one cried about that because they didn’t know🤣🤣🤣🤣it’s online to read…..hush payments
Bold of you to make a claim there’s no evidence for
@@christianlemus44 $1.77 trillion in student loan debt in just america.
@@Fuzzyakm correct, most of which are not being payed for by them, but by organizations they request money from. My point was there is too much student loan debt and not enough quality education to make it remotely worth it
These young people paying such big buck$$ and getting absolutely ZIPPO in return! Clearly collegiate scam!!
The irony is, that is exactly the type of person who college is wasted on.
Can barely even form a coherent argument.
I mean it’s not easy to talk in front a crowd in a combative way, he’s not a public speaker you know
Prob going to college to learn how to form an argument ;)
Sounds like you never stepped foot inside a college genius.
@@NickGiant127 no, I generally don’t step inside people.
Do tell though, what’s it like to step inside of a college genius?
@khatdubell I'm not answering a troll. You have a 17 year old youtube account with one video which proves you only use youtube to be a troll, congratulations!
Bus Driver here 90K to 200K a year, got a free CDL Also and All the Best Benefits and retirement. No College Needed.
Yeah but you drive a bus.
Are you serious? 90 to 200K a year? to the commenter who insults that, why would you insult that? This is a person that doesn't deal with soul-sucking politics of a typical corporate job and has job security and makes a great living
Wow, public transportation bus drivers get paid near minimum wage for Los Angeles and Orange County in California. Must be a special circumstance.
@@pax0r32 Yeah I’m not buying that one.
@@torreyintahoeyou must really care what strangers think of you 😢
Follow your dreams....college or not....but taxpayers shouldn't pay for it.
It’s already subsidized by state governments generally.
@@djarmstrong23lol what are you saying, any money the government creates or spends is tax payer money
i pay my student loans but I honestly wouldn’t mind if the federal government wiped some or all of it. Doesn’t mean i’ll actively support Biden or Bernie though
Taxpayers shouldn't pay for someone's education? For that not so privileged wouldnt it grant them an opportunity?
@@djarmstrong23Really, so my friends daughter with $90,000 college debt and complaining is just pulling our leg. Lol.
Collage is a scam
Yes and no
BINGO.
@@wwbuirkle it is but not everyone gets scammed
I bet you pay for a doctor and a dentist.
I dont understand your comment. Do you pay every student who went to college to be a doctor?
Perhaps you should look at the people who went to school to become a doctor vs the small percentage who become doctors. Also you have to consider that 75% of those premed students are in an avg debt of $200,000.
A person having to pay for a doctor isnt a legit argument regarding the value of a college education @@AnabelleLee100
Those young people enter college with commonsense then they walk out with absolute nonsense.
Learn a trade. Way more practical in the long run.
If you're a man.
@@ragecage_2735 A trade meaning carpentry, welding, plumbing, pipe fitting etc.
@@ragecage_2735 wrong trade buddy. hes talking about work trades, not finance.
False. You don't have to be incredibly smart to get into trade, you just have to be good at what you do. How do you do that? You practice and work, I'm 15 currently and can code pretty well. Im not learning it in school, I learn on my own time and for fun@@ragecage_2735
trade is easy. i will trade you reeses pieces for gummy worms. deal?
1:59 Learning how to work in college?
I learned how to work when I was a twelve year old washing dishes in a restaurant. That ethic has served me well in life.
That should have been part of Charlie's response. You learn to work by actually going to a job.
I was going to say. I'm not sure how he decided that when college is essentially a 4 year party of drugs and alcohol with a few hours of memorizing worthless things to pass a test.
Man bun,,,,ugh!
Ok boomer
@@7eVen.si62not a boomer captain. I’m a millennial who went to college.
College is *completely different* now
It used to be free back then.
@@jovanlopez5284 😂
Never ever stop Charlie. You are awsome ❤
He disagrees with facts. If you close your eyes the facts don't go away
It's normal, even while listening to Bloomberg I heard a segment where the women were saying that the data shows that college isn't worth it but at the same time they still want to promote College
🫣 huh?
nah, the facts will go away and the people which closed their eyes will stay in eternal bubble of lies.
Wonder how much his parents are paying for him to be there.
Parents?
I think you mean tax payers.
@@khatdubellare his parents not taxpayers?
@@metalhd7277 way to miss the point by a mile
@@metalhd7277 No - his parents are probably not taxpayers. They probably net more taxpayer money then they pay in. That's why they have a child who doesn't mind wasting his time in college - he knows that eventually YOU and I will foot his bills.
@@johnnynick6179 I’m not American, how will I foot the bill?
For someone attending college that student is under educated.
No child left behind.
Don’t you hate it when people tells you the truth and the truth hurts like hell?!?
I asked the weed man at the gas station (very young guy) why my son doesnt even want to hang out one day a week.. he said; what 15 year old, wants to be with his parents.. NONE. it was a gut punch for me.. but I took it!
Charlie Kirk is a breath of fresh air.
He spot on once again.
My buddy got a quote for a new kitchen island. Not a gut tear out kitchen remodel. Just the island, and this is rural Wisconsin. The quote was 45k. He of course didn’t go with it but the lowest quote was 22k. My point being that these tradesmen can name their price since no one knows how to do anything anymore. Stay away from college young people. It is the biggest scam on earth.
Ya, I suspect trades jobs will soon be considered upper class.
I told a buddy that has almost college age daughters; All you really need to do is go to these trade schools and get educated or hire the graduates to start a business.. youd make more than a doctor in 6 months. -I didnt say they wouldnt have to work, but some things "you just have to do.."
@anonymus3703 That's right, but less than 5% student get that chance. So it's still a scam for majority.
They dont want to work
arguably college is more work than an actual job lol
@dragerdet depends what you do. I was a firemedic, trauma nurse, and flight nurse/medic. School was a joke compared to life
Yale tuition will be $90,000 per year this fall. Twenty years ago, it was $30,000. 300% inflation sounds like a scam to me.
ok whats your point? thats a 1 off private school that only the wealthy elite get into. Theres plenty of state schools you can go to for ~$10k (without scholarships) and still major in STEM or accounting or something statisctally good and do great.
@@mountainman6030 name one. Tution across the board has gone up the last 20 years. For example, in 2000, tuition at California State University Long Beach (CSULB) was $1,700, and tuition and fees were $9,080. In 1999-2000, the average tuition at a public 4-year institution was $3,349, with a yearly growth rate of 8.8%.
For the 2023-2024 academic year, California State University Long Beach's tuition and fees are $6,904 for in-state students and $17,200 for out-of-state students. Room and board costs $15,612.
That's a 400% increase.
@@mountainman6030 also, I'm not wealthy and I was accepted into both Cornell and Columbia. That's how I know how much tution was 20 years ago. And CSULB was my fallback school.
$10,000 a year for a state school is still a rip off.
The return on investment (ROI) is rapidly falling. Most people do not know paying compounded interest on a high principal loan amount get significantly tougher.
Yale education hours have been cut in almost half from it's peak
This is so true, I knew someone that applied for government loans to complete a four year art degree. I’m in the UK. If you go into that sector you have to repay the loan but if you don’t then you don’t have to repay. So tax payers were forced to throw away their money funding a person to…play around. She now works for mental health in a prison, she’s never had a job that she’s needed an art degree.
Wow that's a WIN win for college students in UK. You either get the job of your "dreams" and then make money and pay off the loan or you don't and owe nothing. I wish I could have gone to college under those conditions.
So true. Absolutely wonderful.
i just love listening to this series. entetaining more than majority of TV/OTT shows
Spent 3.5 years at University on a computer science Bachelors. Dropped out and became a truck driver hauling HazMat. I make 135k a year. I'm very happy and have a very good life. My total college burden was about $14k because of my US GI Bill benefits. Paid back the student loans. Ended up with a great hobby of building and repairing computers for family, friends and co-workers. I don't regret college one bit, but definitely did not need it to make a good living and support my family. Many of my co-workers have a similar story with college, dropping out to make money to support themselves and family.
Skill issue for dropping out ngl
@anonymus3703 Compare the vacancy with the number of candidates.
@@justsomeguywithoutagirl4956 That may turn out to be a smart move. Blaming everything on skill issue is stupid.
May I ask which company you worked for that pays 135k? I used to haul hazmat for a few months in 2014, but it was the standard 1k/week pay, just like everywhere else. Still the same to this day, hauling grain feed. I'm only making 65k-70k.
@@Vagabond_Etranger Keenan Advantage out of Portland Oregon
Obviously he said all that cuz he’s not the one paying tuition.
Grauduated from a State university in 2006. It was relatively cheap back then. And the career field Im in requires a degree. Fast forward to today, I would never recommend college unless you are going into medicine or becoming an engineer.
I just did a presentation/speech that college isnt the best option to my class of graduating highschool seinors and the amount of people annoyed or upset was suprising. Schools condition these kids young. :(
Nothing like a 60 yr old professor telling you about the job market
Or a professor of business environment bragging that he has been teaching at the college since the 70s - then sharing his business experience from the 60s - in the 90-2000s.
That was money well spent - He says completely unseriously.
The dude with the Afro and red shirt is extremely patient and willing to use his mind. Refreshing.
because he has a red shirt or an afro?
"learning how to work" 😂😂😂
He wants the indoctrination.. this means a certificate to never work a day in his life.. its a scam
College is not a place for that, at least, that's what some highly educated ones say.
When you are in the trades, you:
1) don't go into massive debt
2) You don't need to get involved in soul-sucking office politics
3) You sleep way better at night actually having physically worked that day
4) You more than likely are not obese like so many are
5) You end up getting to know other people in the trades and you barter with each other for services and even side gigs together to save money, or making money
6) You can look back on your day with the satisfaction of SEEING that you accomplished something.
The best people you will ever meet typically, are tradespeople. Good old fashioned down-to-earth hard-working salt of the earth people, and oh yeah, probably a 90% chance they have conservative values - you know, the kind of people that believe in earning and making your own way in life - no victim mentality excuses
@rohandhanota9944I work at a water utility, it’s state run, have great retirement, mostly easy physical work and multiple depts I can apprenticeship into. I feel like I won a “set for life” lottery 😂
1000% agree! One of my sons will be going into a trade this year, after summer break. For all the reasons you mentioned.
He is an old soul in a young body. A man of few words, and someone who needs to use his hands to feel whole.
I think this will be perfect for him.
@rohandhanota9944
Please go with your gut. Read my comment above. It sounds like a trade would be perfect for you.
Also, you will be in high demand in 20 years, when everyone has nicely framed papers on their walls, but nobody knows how to replace their own hot water tanks or change a lightbulb!
@rohandhanota9944 You and Cassiem will both do well.
You will not regret the decision. Your body won't wear down as long as you work smart, use the proper tools which are designed to do the job with less exertion from you, learn about things like Yoga or anything that keeps you limber, and eat properly.
You will have all kinds of cash jobs offered on the side, and you will have excellent benefits, and if you decide to learn about things like framing and roofing and painting and other trades, you can always have your own side projects like rehabbing and selling houses, if you want to, to make excellent side money.
You can live extremely well and like I said, there is no price you can put on for not dealing with office politics crap.
Don't get me wrong, some people are wired for that stuff, but they are typically narcissists and sociopathic types. That sounds over the top to say that, but those are personality traits that thrive in political corporate environments, so if you aren't that, you will suffer spiritually and you will find yourself selling your soul and you don't want that if you can do another path.
GOOD LUCK!
@rohandhanota9944be an electrician, theres so many options to go into. I went into controls technician and you can earn alot of money and travel the world which i’m doing now.
As someone who recruits workers. I will recruit anyone who has two values. Work ethic and willingness to learn. These two values should have been instilled in you growing up at home. IMHO 😊
College is not a scam if u are in the STEM field( math, engineering, physics,etc). It’s actually a proven way to learn the subject.
Charlie is there giving those students the education the never get and they can't appreciate him.
Charlie should have a debate with Marie Harf.
If you want to be a doctor per say, you have to go to college. Certain jobs require college education so you don’t have a choice but to go to college.
100% my daughter trains doctors and nurses at health clinics when they're brought online with electronic med systems. She makes 98,000 a year. No college ay all.
I have a degree in Economics and minor in Business Management and will tell you college is a scam! It's a waste of time and waste of money. And I literally got nothing from it, except four more years of partying! LOL
Yep. Degree of marketing here. Could of cut out 70% of my classes and I would of been fine. The college system just wants to milk as much money as they can from you.
Degrees are only good for people who are majoring in Journalism, Engineering, dentistry, and film school.
Accountant here. 95% of what I know and actually do was learned on the job. I tell new accountants or accounting students this.. the degree is a prerequisite to real learning.
@@29_lets_go Personally, I have learned more online researching, reading, and watching TH-cam videos than I ever learned in college. And it's free!
@@29_lets_go , true, as I have experienced the very same thing. Now, I would really say that college has helped me get a job way easier, and familiarize myself with certain topics, that's mostly it doe.
( obviously knowing accounting did help too doe, made it much easier )
The whole "you can't be anything in life if you don't go to college" nonsense was all we ever heard going to grade school. I work with so many people who have degrees that are going to waste that it's sickening. The only folks i know who are actually using their degrees are Teachers and Scientists (chemist and microbiologist). When the doctor down the street makes less than the plumber two doors down, ya know you were scammed.
It is unfortunately common and unsurprising that someone would take facts and logic and throw them out over opinions and feelings.
“Glorified Credentialing Exercise”. Spot on. 👍🏻
I dropped out of college, went to work at the phone company, later i built my first computer from a kit in the 70s, taught myself to code and had a 20 year career as a software engineer/analyst.
Salutations Charlie
Immediately after highschool, go to trade school. Trust me it will pay off. I wish I would’ve done it sooner. College is a huge scam.
Should I tell my daughter to be a plumber?
@@torreyintahoe Plumbers are needed!
@@skepticstoic1 They are but it's a man's job.
You still need doctors, dentists, nurses
@@AnabelleLee100 If that’s your goal go to college.
4.0 college grad, learned nothing and I still can't get a job that aligns with my degree because I lack work experience despite my legal and political internships. The system is completely broken.
I weep for today’s youth.
I went to college but dropped out eventually. Worked as a mechanic for some years before going to a now defunct 9 month trade school for software programming for $13k.
Fast forward 25 years, I have a home, 2 cars, etc.
IMO, it’s how badly you WANT success not how many stinking badges you have.
1:29 He's very straightforward about being scammed.... wow.😮
Learning how to work is working
I have no college degree… I got a job when I was 20 and 10 years later I’m still in the same industry and I have so much experience I can get a job anywhere.
I have three kids that none went to college. First one is a CPhTech., beautician, fitness trainer and has her own meal prep business, the 2nd one is an assistant manager for BOA for 25 years. Lastly my son has been an electrician for 22 years and don't own any college money 😊.
@rohandhanota9944 he'd be making more if he had his license. But he's afraid of taking the test because according to him he's been out of school 20 years and is afraid of not passing. His loss. I know he's making $29/hr.
I remember when there were actual shop classes in high school and someone could get a head start taking those for learning the trade
There was another video with this on it, and I was just watching it. It had a comment from a doctor on it stating his college degree was a scam. I wanted to save that video, but YT took it off my watch history, and I was in the middle of watching it. Put it on hold and then it disappeared. This is insane....and infuriating! Of course, not surprising!
He comes up to Charlie and accuse HIM of wasting his time. I guess it’s really hard to not stop and Ask questions. amongst the things they haven’t learned is time management in college.
whats worse is 75% of the stuff you learn in college has NOTHING to do with what your there for.
115k a year for a plumber? What? I'm in the wrong country. In UK it's 28K a year for a plumber and 34k with gas tickets too, plus higher bills, higher tax and the list goes on, UK sucks!
That guy needs to take a course in communications and debate. That was embarrassing.
Bernie Sanders said in 2016 "A college degree today is the equivalent of high school diploma 40 years ago"
Obviously 12 years of public school isn't working. Stop the bleeding.
is he paying for it our are we?
You are a legend that is upholding facts that this next generation needs
You can get an Engineering license as an apprenticeship program in the USA, it takes 8 years, instead of 4 years of school plus 4 years as a junior engineer
I’m a civil engineer and this total BS to even apply for the professional license you NEED to have finished a bachelors in civil engineering and pass an exit exam
@@davidr2299 I also used to think that. I have a civil and mechanical degree and when I was getting ready to take my FE or EIT test with the state I found out that if you have been apprenticing at an Eng. firm for 8 years you are eligible to take the test and if you have an Associate's degree plus 4 yrs as an intern you can take the test. Most people do not know this. I did not know that till a state official in WA and OR informed me of those other options. Most people are told the only way to do it is through college. It may be different in your state, but many states except work experience to get the license. After passing the EIT or FE out here you have to hold it for I think 4 yrs before you can test for a PE, Professional Engineer License, and not have to work under another engineer. Ps School did not help my spelling,
@@davidr2299 It Looks like my last reply did not work. Each state has different requirements to get a PE. When I started preparing for my EIT, or FE test after I finished my Civil and Mechanical engineering degree in OR and WA, I was told if I had work experience or an Associated Deg, I could set for the FE test. After I passed the FE, I would have to work as a junior engineer longer if I used work experience it would be plus 8yrs or if I had an Associate degree it would be plus 4yrs, and if I had a Bachelor it would be 1yr credit for each bachelor deg lowering the time as a FE two 2 year before being eligible to take the PE test
I believe this aswel i wasn't learning anything at university studying mechanical engineering after 3 months so i went to make money instead. I learned more in the construction industry and being a mechanic than anywhere else
Someone who voluntarily came to banter with Charlie Kirk says “he, Charlie” is taking their time. How about not coming to banter?
I went to college and went on to get a job not requiring a degree, he's 100% correct. I make 120k/yr only requires high school diploma.
_"If you come here to get educated, you guys are going for the wrong thing. This is just a glorified credentialing exercise."_ @1:26
That reminds me of entrepreneur Dan Sullivan's observation that: _"The school system is really heavy on credentials. But all the credentials in the world don't guarantee you any kind of capability, except the capability to get credentials. And all the capability in the world doesn't require credentials."_
He is there to educate these people
Yes he didn't go to college and he's doing financially good. but not everyone will be as lucky as he is
It’s difficult to get people of any age to admit they could possibly be scammed when they have an invested interest.
Nobody wants to admit they could have been manipulated.
The saddest thing about this video is the college students that TRIED to debate Charlie only proved his point, these people ARE being scammed and don’t realise just how much they are gonna end up paying for their so called “Education”
oh my god... he is clueless!!!!
Love these videos ❤
'Learn to code in 6 months and go to Salesforce and earn 180k/year' - lol. People with these opinions are the reason why the IT workforce has such high amount of low skill workers nowadays.
It's not so much a scam as these kids spend 150,000 on a degree in lesbian under water interpretive basket weaving and think they will make money.
Yep, I got a bachelor's in finance, never used it. Almost 37 years old. Even if I did use it, nearly all jobs requiring this degree require supplemental licenses that are harder to obtain than the bachelor degree is. It's a total joke.
I went to a Tech School that had a 100% employment rate. Never had any protests at my school 🧐
In the face of irrefutable evidence, he chooses to disagree. Great future ahead for that guy.
You can be educated by someone who does mechanic work on vehicles. It's called interning from a mentor. Once you have learned from your mentor you may proceed to create your own job from the experienced you have gained. I agree with Charlie Kirk.
Plumber here quit college, joined the military, traveled the world, have a family. 120k a year easy, it takes work but I’m happy and love life! God bless!
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
The average cost of a 4 year college degree in the USA in 2024 is $213,000. This doesn’t include the interest. The amount borrowed after interest is $351,450.
Who thinks that going into debt this amount by your early 20s is wise?
The better question is, Is that college degree really worth $351,450? For the vast majority, the answer is a resounding NO!
@@Dennis0824 I agree! …but you are asking the same question! 😉
My 18 yr old son took welding in high school, then went to tech school for 6 months to get certified as a welder. He started at $75k/yr, at 18yrs old & has no student loan debt.
THERE'S NO HOPE
Define education. We can get education outside of the four walls of a classroom.
Do Wallmart managers really make 400k$ a year?
What about the engineering part, needed them to just do the code industry? So no structural / civil / mechanical engineering needed in this society and all working in the code industry?
No critical thinking whatsoever!
Man I’d love to have a convo with Charlie. Straight shooter, no bs, no emotional bickering just cold hard facts.
I did a degree in engineering 40 years ago. My nephew has started the same degree - or at least a degree with the same title. He didn’t do high level maths at high school. I told him to be careful, because the hardest part of my degree was the high level maths, which I found to be heavy going stuff. He sailed through his first years with no problems and got really high marks, much better than I did. I asked him how he coped with the calculus, J notation, imaginary numbers and so on that I struggled with - and he didn’t even know what I was talking about. It seems like the current idea is ‘look up the answer on the internet’ or get an app to do it for you.
His retort at the end. xD "I disagree with you." Great argument there, champ.
I say it every-time I see these videos. It’s easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.
he went back on every argument he made then says he disagrees.
It’s hard to change your beliefs especially if you are so invested (mentally and financially)
Go to a trade school.
All i can say is Truth Hurts.
I am a Las Vegas native and went to UNLV where this was filmed. I can attest to the fact, that 100% certainty, that college is a scam.
He’s right
A Kirk, bring me back to reality.
We need scholarship's to Trade School's.
schools doesn't get an apostrophe. You should have stayed in school.
They have them. Just gotta look
Should be no apostrophe at all, scholarships nor schools. Nothing is possessive. We need scholarships to trade schools.
@@1packatak They need a better ad campaign.
@@torreyintahoe Awwwwww.
My parents didn’t go to college and are multi-millionaires… not that their money is mine, but I didn’t have formal college training either, and didn’t need it after I landed a job with some secretarial skills and common sense at a law firm. It was learn as I go, from there! ! We are our best teachers. I’m still my best student.
What if a student is seeking a career in Healthcare? Is college still a scam? Can you become a nurse or doctor without a degree?
The funny thing is as the second year I dropped out of college. I kept in touch with two college buddies that went all the way and graduated. By the time they graduated I was making really good money. When they finally got out and entered the workforce I was making more than double than what they were getting if you added their combine salaries. And not only that they had student loans on top of that where I didn't. I agree that colleges are definitely a scam.