45% off everything at Laced NZ, This Black Friday weekend only! Code: BF2024 or click this link lacednz.shop/discount/BF2024 Help me clear some stock and raise some money to make new stuff 🙏
Law daddy went down this rabbit hole and found wheel profile mattered way way more than wheel hardness. May get some of the more bullet profile aggressive wheels out there & try it out
You probably know this, but wax helps, A LOT. Really, "overwax" those ledges, that way, if your wheels touch, they will still slide. Before i always thought that waxing over your frames length was cheating, but since I saw Michael Witzemann's video about ledge skating, i gave it a try and it definitely changed my life.
I def find myself buying more frames skating flat than when I skated anti. With flat frames I find there’s a sweet spot when they get a nice groove worn in, but not so much so that the wheel bite protection is reduced. Plus as others mentioned, face or bullet wheels make a massive difference. Hardness is almost inconsequential IMO.
Interesting observations. I think technique does play a part in it, but of course there are people who would back nug in 60mm flat featerlite 3s. I'm never concerned on how the wheels touch - I think as long as you get down a bit, and sit back a bit, it'll slide. I think it looks like you stand over that front foot a bit more, maybe because of your knee.
Flat frames are only produced from skate-companies to take all your money.😉I do not buy flat frames anymore because it is in my eyes for nothing. My main setup is since years a Kizer fluid frame with 60 to 64mm outer wheels and to be honest, regarding the riding experience it makes not a huge difference to a flat frame. But for grinding it makes a huge difference. I need not to wax everything like hell, I can also grind obstacles with a wider angle than 90degrees very easy, I need not always be afraid of getting wheelbite, it is easier to lock-in because of the wide groove, the frame lasts much longer than a flat frame and it grinds like butter no matter what kind of grinds you do. So, why should I pay the double price for something that just annoys me? I have one flat setup with big wheels just for cruising bowls on some days when I do not have motivation for a lot of grinding but that is it. For sessions with focus on grinding I would never change to a flat setup. What you can also see is, that the most bladers (except Oysi-frame) with flat setups use very small wheels around 55mm. But then you lose on the other hand speed. So, I do not see many advantages compared to an antirocker setup with bigger wheels.
Skating anti-rocker sucks if you care about the roll and flow, though. I hate that train track feeling and like to carve in and out of my tricks. Cant really do that on anti
Honestly man... just get a round or bullet profile wheel and wax the damn obstacle. I love the exact same kind of switchups like royal to ao topsoul and skate the kizer F5 frames. Take your time to get used to a setup and work on your technique, it'll become second nature eventually.
45% off everything at Laced NZ, This Black Friday weekend only! Code: BF2024
or click this link lacednz.shop/discount/BF2024
Help me clear some stock and raise some money to make new stuff 🙏
You're skating the TNEC with 60mm Revolver wheels, right? Wheel profile plays a massive part. Use 58mm round or tapered wheels, problem solved.
Law daddy went down this rabbit hole and found wheel profile mattered way way more than wheel hardness. May get some of the more bullet profile aggressive wheels out there & try it out
You probably know this, but wax helps, A LOT.
Really, "overwax" those ledges, that way, if your wheels touch, they will still slide.
Before i always thought that waxing over your frames length was cheating, but since I saw Michael Witzemann's video about ledge skating, i gave it a try and it definitely changed my life.
I def find myself buying more frames skating flat than when I skated anti. With flat frames I find there’s a sweet spot when they get a nice groove worn in, but not so much so that the wheel bite protection is reduced.
Plus as others mentioned, face or bullet wheels make a massive difference. Hardness is almost inconsequential IMO.
Interesting observations. I think technique does play a part in it, but of course there are people who would back nug in 60mm flat featerlite 3s.
I'm never concerned on how the wheels touch - I think as long as you get down a bit, and sit back a bit, it'll slide. I think it looks like you stand over that front foot a bit more, maybe because of your knee.
Flat frames are only produced from skate-companies to take all your money.😉I do not buy flat frames anymore because it is in my eyes for nothing. My main setup is since years a Kizer fluid frame with 60 to 64mm outer wheels and to be honest, regarding the riding experience it makes not a huge difference to a flat frame. But for grinding it makes a huge difference. I need not to wax everything like hell, I can also grind obstacles with a wider angle than 90degrees very easy, I need not always be afraid of getting wheelbite, it is easier to lock-in because of the wide groove, the frame lasts much longer than a flat frame and it grinds like butter no matter what kind of grinds you do. So, why should I pay the double price for something that just annoys me? I have one flat setup with big wheels just for cruising bowls on some days when I do not have motivation for a lot of grinding but that is it. For sessions with focus on grinding I would never change to a flat setup. What you can also see is, that the most bladers (except Oysi-frame) with flat setups use very small wheels around 55mm. But then you lose on the other hand speed. So, I do not see many advantages compared to an antirocker setup with bigger wheels.
anti rocker gang wins again 🕺
Skating anti-rocker sucks if you care about the roll and flow, though. I hate that train track feeling and like to carve in and out of my tricks. Cant really do that on anti
@ZenithPotentia choo choo call me train conductor 🚂 💨
Honestly man... just get a round or bullet profile wheel and wax the damn obstacle.
I love the exact same kind of switchups like royal to ao topsoul and skate the kizer F5 frames. Take your time to get used to a setup and work on your technique, it'll become second nature eventually.
Maybe try some Echo verve?
58-55mm wheels and you will be fine
Stock groove ..... When I started skating that didn't exist.
Sure, is time to take your pills grandpa
Tarmac CE came with a rectangular metal grind block! Had to mash through that sucker before you could even start a groove.
Ride anti