I truely do hope they improve these and get them spot on. A almost all in one radio of this style/ package is definitely something the market wants. Unfortunately these companies always leave loose ends for the user to discover then disappear when they start asking questions. As for the encryption keys I completely agree, should be a end user generated key not from a third party. Overall it looks good and has a promising base for something great. We just have to wait and see. I do appreciate folks like yourself dipping your toes into the unknown as it makes others aware of any shortfalls.
Thanks for the response. It definitely is a work in progress. Small steps forward. The latest version of the software does appear more stable but still has a plethora of bugs. Just discovered one the other day for 2M and 70cm transmission. Transmitting but no modulation added to the carrier frequency. Switch to 6m, TX and back to original, works fine. 😂 I just don’t trust them as a company. So my advice still stands. Stay away from for now. Until they stabilize the software and are consistent on the hardware.
Thanks man 😀. I wholeheartedly agree. I am now encountering some bugs now that make it definitely less valuable. It is capable, but still not as capable due to the stuff they are requiring you to buy to fully realize potential.
@@colemorrison8957 Hey Cole. I believe it comes down to your use case. I am not unhappy that I have it, especially with it’s capabilities. I am just upset about the ‘false advertising’. I’m a hair miffed that the functions aren’t as user friendly as I hoped. There is always a learning curve. I remember learning the Singars for the first time, I almost crapped. 😀 All that said, at the end of the day, am I going to use frequency hoping? No, and with who? DMR encryption would be a hair more useful. Once again, not sending secret traffic. Someone wants to listen to me, feel free!! But having that option available if I want it. Now it’s not. APRS i was definitely upset about. But there are workarounds there too. Not the end of the world. Having one radio, that is highly self contained, highly portable, rugged with that range of frequencies and modes, is still a good rig. I hope this helps.
A question was asked about how the DMR works, where I was asked about the DMR capabilities 1. It is a ‘one for one’ communication. There is no concept of adding a contact list or zones. You enter the specific one target radio ID for direct communication. The group ID also and similarly, with appropriate TS and CCs. You just have to keep a library of those IDs somewhere, to manually enter. If you are out in the sticks and no online access, then you better have a printed copy handy. 2. An additional item, they claim in their sales literature it comes with digital encryption. That is a half truth that I personally discovered only last night. I thought it was a bug that it wasn’t working. Apparently, it is an additional purchase. As are frequency hoping and APRS enablement. The encryption algorithm is proprietary, no biggie. But they are issuing that key, actually a pair of keys that you must purchase. I don’t think I like the fact that the key is generated by a third party, especially there. The way the CCP and PLA have their hooks in everything, no thanks!! An encryption key should be yours regardless of algorithm deployed. I hope this helps.
DMR on what frequencies? Who did you decide to purchase it from? I’ve talked to Amy and several other Chinese sales girls about this radio with not much help.
@@cpt.moroni3092 I used DMR mainly in UHF 70cm. DRM repeaters and directly to other radios etc. The vendor I used was good with communication and responsive to questions. Not so much to the DMR/APRS/FH issues that I had regarding additional charges for those features. This is who I purchased from on eBay: outstandingdeal
@@brianc0620 I’m told by my contact that Talinfone is the manufacturer. Have you tried to work with them? They also make Airsoft radios. TRI AN PRC 152
@@cpt.moroni3092 I don’t believe that is correct. Guohe makes this radio. It is rebranded by other vendors such as Alinco, Talinfone and Hamgeek. There are theee manufacturers of the 152 that I am aware of.: TRI, TCA and FCS. I own the TRI and a TCA of those. I am a fan of them too.
if you're not dodging mortar strikes, it probably makes more sense to just get the dolled up Q900 v3. This is twice as much for the aluminum body and gaskets.
The advantages here are that it is easily backpackable, highly weather resistant and has all controls and antennas coming out of the top. Battery is built in and swappable. Depends on your use case and how flexible and fungible you like your equipment to be. Civilian uses include SAR, boating, emergency prep to name a few.
They are not listed. That was the problem. They tell you the components are already included, which they are. But to activate DMR encryption, APRS and frequency hoping, you need to pay to activate them. They keep saying that this is a Professional Rig, not Amateur. Which translates to “you have already paid $2200, now pay more for these features to be unlocked“. The sales person blames the manufacturer and likewise the manufacturer says to talk to the seller. The APRS function is in the software list, as is the DMR and Freq hopping. You would need another similar radio (this or the Q900) to be able to use DMR encryption and freq hopping. APRS should be universal. They said I can use APRS with connector to external APRS device like a droid phone etc. I still haven’t been able to get that working regardless of everything I have done to figure it out. It’s honestly a bit of a shell game.
To be honest, I don’t know. I personally only stick to HAM bands and have only tested those, as I have other radios with HAM frequencies to verify TX and applications are based in Amateur radio protocols. As an example, 70MHz band. I don’t have any radios that have that frequency and no one near me in the US would either. So while it may look like it is TX, but I can’t confirm.
@@mctscott123 yeah same here. Being used to the mil style and weather resistance/ruggedness of it, it’s a win for me. As a desktop type mobile rig not bad either. The screen is just a hair small for that.
No. Smaller than NMO. One of the other people that commented gave what is likely the correct part number. I need to see if I can find a base for that connection
Ebay. That said, there is a forum on what’s app that has the direct input and response from the manufacturer Guohe, where there is an independent sales (vendor) guy on there too. He would be a good contact in the event there are issues with the unit. Both are very responsive. The vendor is through AliExpress.
I truely do hope they improve these and get them spot on. A almost all in one radio of this style/ package is definitely something the market wants. Unfortunately these companies always leave loose ends for the user to discover then disappear when they start asking questions. As for the encryption keys I completely agree, should be a end user generated key not from a third party. Overall it looks good and has a promising base for something great. We just have to wait and see.
I do appreciate folks like yourself dipping your toes into the unknown as it makes others aware of any shortfalls.
Thanks for the response.
It definitely is a work in progress.
Small steps forward.
The latest version of the software does appear more stable but still has a plethora of bugs. Just discovered one the other day for 2M and 70cm transmission. Transmitting but no modulation added to the carrier frequency. Switch to 6m, TX and back to original, works fine. 😂
I just don’t trust them as a company. So my advice still stands. Stay away from for now. Until they stabilize the software and are consistent on the hardware.
Very brave of you to buy it blind. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks man 😀. I wholeheartedly agree.
I am now encountering some bugs now that make it definitely less valuable. It is capable, but still not as capable due to the stuff they are requiring you to buy to fully realize potential.
@@brianc0620 do you still think it’s worth buying one?
@@colemorrison8957
Hey Cole. I believe it comes down to your use case. I am not unhappy that I have it, especially with it’s capabilities. I am just upset about the ‘false advertising’. I’m a hair miffed that the functions aren’t as user friendly as I hoped. There is always a learning curve. I remember learning the Singars for the first time, I almost crapped. 😀
All that said, at the end of the day, am I going to use frequency hoping? No, and with who? DMR encryption would be a hair more useful. Once again, not sending secret traffic. Someone wants to listen to me, feel free!! But having that option available if I want it. Now it’s not.
APRS i was definitely upset about. But there are workarounds there too. Not the end of the world.
Having one radio, that is highly self contained, highly portable, rugged with that range of frequencies and modes, is still a good rig. I hope this helps.
@@brianc0620 OK thanks bro 😎
Great Video!!
Thank you. I am about to release an update video.
Stay frosty 😁
Basic I will be advising to stay away for now.
A question was asked about how the DMR works, where I was asked about the DMR capabilities
1. It is a ‘one for one’ communication. There is no concept of adding a contact list or zones. You enter the specific one target radio ID for direct communication. The group ID also and similarly, with appropriate TS and CCs. You just have to keep a library of those IDs somewhere, to manually enter. If you are out in the sticks and no online access, then you better have a printed copy handy.
2. An additional item, they claim in their sales literature it comes with digital encryption. That is a half truth that I personally discovered only last night. I thought it was a bug that it wasn’t working. Apparently, it is an additional purchase. As are frequency hoping and APRS enablement.
The encryption algorithm is proprietary, no biggie. But they are issuing that key, actually a pair of keys that you must purchase. I don’t think I like the fact that the key is generated by a third party, especially there. The way the CCP and PLA have their hooks in everything, no thanks!! An encryption key should be yours regardless of algorithm deployed.
I hope this helps.
DMR on what frequencies? Who did you decide to purchase it from? I’ve talked to Amy and several other Chinese sales girls about this radio with not much help.
@@cpt.moroni3092 I used DMR mainly in UHF 70cm. DRM repeaters and directly to other radios etc.
The vendor I used was good with communication and responsive to questions. Not so much to the DMR/APRS/FH issues that I had regarding additional charges for those features.
This is who I purchased from on eBay: outstandingdeal
@@brianc0620 I’m told by my contact that Talinfone is the manufacturer. Have you tried to work with them? They also make Airsoft radios. TRI AN PRC 152
@@cpt.moroni3092 I don’t believe that is correct. Guohe makes this radio. It is rebranded by other vendors such as Alinco, Talinfone and Hamgeek. There are theee manufacturers of the 152 that I am aware of.: TRI, TCA and FCS. I own the TRI and a TCA of those. I am a fan of them too.
Good job 👏👏👏 very helpful
Nice demo thank you Brian! Very rugged looking kit.
Thank you 😁
I have the non military version the q900
if you're not dodging mortar strikes, it probably makes more sense to just get the dolled up Q900 v3. This is twice as much for the aluminum body and gaskets.
The advantages here are that it is easily backpackable, highly weather resistant and has all controls and antennas coming out of the top. Battery is built in and swappable. Depends on your use case and how flexible and fungible you like your equipment to be. Civilian uses include SAR, boating, emergency prep to name a few.
All add on tech for these (aprs, keys, etc) where are they listed? I only see the radio listed.
They are not listed. That was the problem. They tell you the components are already included, which they are. But to activate DMR encryption, APRS and frequency hoping, you need to pay to activate them. They keep saying that this is a Professional Rig, not Amateur. Which translates to “you have already paid $2200, now pay more for these features to be unlocked“. The sales person blames the manufacturer and likewise the manufacturer says to talk to the seller.
The APRS function is in the software list, as is the DMR and Freq hopping. You would need another similar radio (this or the Q900) to be able to use DMR encryption and freq hopping. APRS should be universal. They said I can use APRS with connector to external APRS device like a droid phone etc. I still haven’t been able to get that working regardless of everything I have done to figure it out.
It’s honestly a bit of a shell game.
Does it actually have open TX outside the ham bands?
To be honest, I don’t know. I personally only stick to HAM bands and have only tested those, as I have other radios with HAM frequencies to verify TX and applications are based in Amateur radio protocols. As an example, 70MHz band. I don’t have any radios that have that frequency and no one near me in the US would either. So while it may look like it is TX, but I can’t confirm.
@@brianc0620 interesting, I'm kinda considering dropping the coin on this radio, I like the concept.
@@mctscott123 yeah same here. Being used to the mil style and weather resistance/ruggedness of it, it’s a win for me. As a desktop type mobile rig not bad either. The screen is just a hair small for that.
Is that larger thread the same size as nmo?
No. Smaller than NMO. One of the other people that commented gave what is likely the correct part number. I need to see if I can find a base for that connection
where did you order from?
Ebay. That said, there is a forum on what’s app that has the direct input and response from the manufacturer Guohe, where there is an independent sales (vendor) guy on there too. He would be a good contact in the event there are issues with the unit. Both are very responsive. The vendor is through AliExpress.