I have two of these radios. They are all over the map when it comes to software bugs. Be very careful with them. Even the hardware QC has been problematic. Power transmission is all over the map too. On UHF and upper VHF it’s less than 10 W. The power settings do not transmit what is set on the screen. Regardless of what you set them at. Extremely buggy software. Customer support is also very poor. Once again, I’ve had these for over a year and a half and they have neither once worked as advertised in marketing material. I would love to recommend these to people but in good conscience I can’t as of right now. It was such a mess I made YT videos describing the issues.
@TheTechPrepper, love your vids. I'm trying to build an 857D man-pack but dang the noise floor on my 857D is like S9 even after a factory reset and regardless of what antenna I'm using. Do you experience this as well?
@guygore3794 I haven't seen this. I'm in a rural area, and my noise floor is usually around an S3 or lower. Both my units are fine. Yaesu is pretty good about providing service, but I've never tried support on a discontinued rig. You might want to try them. Good luck with your build. I hope you figure this one out.
@TheTechPrepper, face palm moment... I had the outer dial of the knob on the top left set to SQL which meant the alternate setting for it (RF Gain) was locked at its previously stored value of 100% 😂😂. Once I used menu 80 to change to RF Gain and adjusted it the noise floor dropped to almost nil. 🎉
I have an Icom 7200, an alpha antenna promaster vertical element on a tripod, 2 x bioenno 12AH, and a CF 33 toughpad, all in a falcon bag....and all that together was the same price as this rig. It is unjustifiable to be charging this much for a q900 that someone hot glued into an aluminum box.
It summons Lord Xenu's Brother, Emperor Meun. He is a milder version of Lord Xenu, but still really bad. He put thermal nuclear bombs on Earthquake faults, instead of volcanoes.
Very interesting unit. I suspect that they'll have many on the shelves available for ordering. I'll just keep m y G90 and get a can of Rustoleum od green. Thanks for doing this review!! Way cool.
Reminds me of when I was in the military and that was what we carried out in the field. In fact the radios carried in my day were probably heavier. Cool radio. Sweet video. Thanks for showing it. If I had spare cash to use I would buy it. But you are right it’s a very specific type of radio for very specific type of operator. Again, sweet video and thanks for sharing.
This radio is made to LOOK like the radio you carried in the military to get you to pay more for it. It's a total scam, it's a $400 radio they literally hot glued into an aluminum case.
The antenna system and built in tuner is sweet. Evidently it can also do frequency hopping that is timed via built-in GPS. But there appear to be a couple not so great reviews.
Those connectors look like Hirose connectors but they might be Lemo connectors used on the Marconi-Bowman PRR squad radios the were used by the British military and the US Marines. As for the Air Force they did make a man pack portable used by the FO's in Vietnam to call in airstrikes on difficult to locate targets.
One might get a used AN/PRC-515 Collins designed for half this price....or a British RT-320 Clansman with all ancillaries. Both will survive immersion.
You can attach a keyboard to this and type in CW real-time using the little short dongle. That short dongle is primarily for uploading binary upgrades. It weighs 25 lbs with battery attached.
Finally a radio hitting on what a large majority of people are looking for right now. A complete ready to operate emergency kit with antennas, case and battery. I’m sure it needs some refinements
If they could only deliver on it. The potential is really there. Also a potential market nowadays. Just the delivery on specifically the software and QC of the hardware is a mess. I own two and would LOVE for them to function as promised. Just appears that the team writing and QA the software are really not getting it done. Google the videos about this from non-Guohetec. You will see the experience that we have had with this and the family of radios from this manufacturer. Shame because they could really be on to something, if they just brought in top tier developers, they could own this market space.
Always start at the top end of the foldable antenna when extending it and breaking it down! Actually, you can extend it by just throwing it down onto the ground and let the spring tension flick it together but in the long run that's not good for it. Same style we used with the PRC-77 man pack rigs in the Army. Thanks! 73 - Dino KLøS
I have noticed a trend. This type of thing usually releases with an impossible to read/tiny display, then 4-8 weeks later they release a touch screen add-on, and now you’re dealing with a radio that costs more than a 705.
This hog really does scream cool! I'm pretty new whilst stumbling through the world of antennas I keep coming across the exact words you said "80M through 10M" relative to a typical secondary option of "60M through 10" which is usually the higher cost. I grock most other things about antennas besides some of these numerologists most commonly used for ranges.
Josh, as always, thank you this video. The idea of $$$cost vs perceived value is a personal one. The initial “cool points” are high - in your words “second kinda cool”. My mobile setup is HUGE in comparison, but, it works and everything is 100watts on HF @and 50watts VHF/UHF - and - already paid for. Again, thank you - your are appreciated. KQ4IXD
Thank you for your great review. That looks like an over complicated rig with lots of problems and difficult to use. Would I buy one *NO* I will stick with my G90.
I think I'll stick with my KX2, KX3, IC-705, or FT-818. :) I do question the quality of that keypad. It will need to be quite robust to give years of reliable service since--let's face it--you're going to be pushing a LOT of buttons to do pretty much anything. Thanks for this review, Josh! -Thomas
In this video, you mentioned that your father was in the Air Force and was stationed in Thailand at the same Air Force base as my dad was. How cool is that?
Yaesu 857d for the win. Beyond that literally any other HF right that’s substantially less expensive will prove to be a better rig. This radio basically targets a specific consumer base(the preppers) and/or fantasy militias. I think it will likely fall flat.
People have lost their mind pricing radios this days. Not even $500 I’ll pay for that thing. Maybe $200 and still not sure. It will drive me crazy to scroll the bands with just push buttons.
Knew the reference from the title. Back before he went a little to ramble ramble for me I used to watch his stuff more. Neat radio, Not my jam exactly. It's close. Get 1.25 in there or more power or less money. Just not tickling me at the features and price point, I'd rather a G90 built into a manpack and decent HT or rally several other combinations of 2 radios you could do for the cost or 891 though a bit bigger obviously. Yea idk I feel like it's close to something maybe a version 2 with a slightly better price point, not half price mind just maybe a couple hundred less and polished up. If the included antenna was on par with one of the popular coils....Also for sure we need a vfo knob, like volume in a car it's no negotiable. Ramble over, probably.
South American para military here... That radio is NOT marketed for hams. It's being used all throughout South America by para military and NGO (others) on NON Ham bands. The folks using this stuff... know what they are doing.
You can buy three or four real military 20 watt radios, admittedly '80s and '90s models, for the same price that will last significantly longer and are far higher quality. As we're suggested this really is a larping toy or for gullible preppers.
I understand the 2nd cool parlance, even though I'm "just another dumbass civilian". I enjoy the idea of radios with different form factors. Maybe someone should make one that is actually built into a case.
Its a poor quality radio, and guohetec has very bad customer support. Even in the niche market of manpack radios you are better off getting something like a G90 that is going to have better sound than this radio at a much cheaper price point. Not to mention you can find actual used military manpacks from time to time going for the $3000 price range. This is just a q900 glued into an aluminum case. It is way overpriced for what it is. If it were half its current price it may be worth it, but even then the radio has allot of issues.
I'm seeing prices from $3,000 to $5,000 for this radio. Given it's Chinese junk that's astonishing. But it reaffirms my consistent belief that TH-camrs work in a different currency than we normies do. Because every price they ever give is always 1/3rd what the cheapest available price online is. That or they see you guys post then triple the price to gouge even harder.
Are you seeing the link to their homepage for $1800? I gave the lowest price that I LINKED in the description. Why all this speculation about TH-camrs?
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So i have a USMC ILBE rucksack on the way right now and they have a radio pouch for inside the pack.....You timed this terribly with the cool factor. However the price helped deter me 110%.
@Uncle_Buzz check again it's $2100, you're probably looking at their "secret keys" which is a proprietary "encryption" method where you have to pay them $300 for an "encryption key" and once it is assigned can't ever change it. Of course you need 2 of the $2000 radio and two of the keys for it to work. It's a total scam, the company is full of scammers
I have two of these radios.
They are all over the map when it comes to software bugs. Be very careful with them.
Even the hardware QC has been problematic.
Power transmission is all over the map too. On UHF and upper VHF it’s less than 10 W. The power settings do not transmit what is set on the screen. Regardless of what you set them at.
Extremely buggy software. Customer support is also very poor.
Once again, I’ve had these for over a year and a half and they have neither once worked as advertised in marketing material.
I would love to recommend these to people but in good conscience I can’t as of right now.
It was such a mess I made YT videos describing the issues.
Seems like we talking about a typical woman......,.all this might as well avoid them at all costs
I'm half Chinese..and even Chinese don't prefer or trust Chinese products....as well as the food grown in China
@@KarenLopez-in5ihJust knock it off man, we don’t need your crap in the comments. Go talk to your boyfriend instead.
Nutnfancy is the OG GunTuber. I genuinely think we all owe him a massive debt of gratitude for paving the way for high quality, non-Fudd gun content.
Not sure what Nutn likes more, hearing himself talk or putting a 3-9x40 on an AR. 🤦🏻♂️
All the fudd tubers are feds. 😂
NUTN wouldn’t like this radio due to mobility vs firepower.
Thanks for the review. I'll stick with my FT-857D and FT-818ND manpacks. Happy Easter!
@TheTechPrepper, love your vids. I'm trying to build an 857D man-pack but dang the noise floor on my 857D is like S9 even after a factory reset and regardless of what antenna I'm using. Do you experience this as well?
@guygore3794 I haven't seen this. I'm in a rural area, and my noise floor is usually around an S3 or lower. Both my units are fine. Yaesu is pretty good about providing service, but I've never tried support on a discontinued rig. You might want to try them. Good luck with your build. I hope you figure this one out.
@@TheTechPrepper OK, it's good to know that the high noise floor is not ubiquitous in all the 857Ds! Thanks a bunch!
@TheTechPrepper, face palm moment... I had the outer dial of the knob on the top left set to SQL which meant the alternate setting for it (RF Gain) was locked at its previously stored value of 100% 😂😂. Once I used menu 80 to change to RF Gain and adjusted it the noise floor dropped to almost nil. 🎉
I have an Icom 7200, an alpha antenna promaster vertical element on a tripod, 2 x bioenno 12AH, and a CF 33 toughpad, all in a falcon bag....and all that together was the same price as this rig. It is unjustifiable to be charging this much for a q900 that someone hot glued into an aluminum box.
The MEUN button is hilarious!
I thought POW was good, but MEUN takes the cake. 🍰
M O O E
It summons Lord Xenu's Brother, Emperor Meun. He is a milder version of Lord Xenu, but still really bad. He put thermal nuclear bombs on Earthquake faults, instead of volcanoes.
Very interesting unit. I suspect that they'll have many on the shelves available for ordering. I'll just keep m y G90 and get a can of Rustoleum od green. Thanks for doing this review!! Way cool.
$1800 for 20 watts? 😂😂 sure it’s not made by chameleon?
😂😂😂😂bahaha
It's a shame this thing isn't closer in price to the Xeigu x5105. Which is the radio I purchased to fit the role this radio is trying to fit.
@@vhfgamer add a case and some antennas, a case and a battery and see where your at.
@@jakep5121 no where close to $1800
@@jakep5121 I actually ended up building my own battery for my Xeigu, using 18650s from dead laptop battery packs.
not a bad deal considering it's in a case that packs the antennas along with it. pretty amazing really.
Nutnfancy reference!
It's a small world ain't it?
Triple Owl here.
Always make sure you're in the right MOOE before transmitting... 🤣
Reminds me of when I was in the military and that was what we carried out in the field. In fact the radios carried in my day were probably heavier.
Cool radio. Sweet video. Thanks for showing it. If I had spare cash to use I would buy it. But you are right it’s a very specific type of radio for very specific type of operator. Again, sweet video and thanks for sharing.
This radio is made to LOOK like the radio you carried in the military to get you to pay more for it. It's a total scam, it's a $400 radio they literally hot glued into an aluminum case.
Very cool and fun looking radio! Great video as always Josh! 73.
I am new to ham and sw radios but just got Sony ICF-5900W. Looks good, i hope i chose well.
The antenna system and built in tuner is sweet. Evidently it can also do frequency hopping that is timed via built-in GPS.
But there appear to be a couple not so great reviews.
Those connectors look like Hirose connectors but they might be Lemo connectors used on the Marconi-Bowman PRR squad radios the were used by the British military and the US Marines.
As for the Air Force they did make a man pack portable used by the FO's in Vietnam to call in airstrikes on difficult to locate targets.
Here comes the correction police; the PRC-150 is the HF line, they recently released the 160 which is HF/ low VHF too.
The one I was issued was a PRC77, the battery compartment had those clamps and housed a magnesium battery. Everything was analog FM.
One might get a used AN/PRC-515 Collins designed for half this price....or a British RT-320 Clansman with all ancillaries. Both will survive immersion.
You can attach a keyboard to this and type in CW real-time using the little short dongle.
That short dongle is primarily for uploading binary upgrades.
It weighs 25 lbs with battery attached.
Ahhhhh that makes sense as the smaller one does that
@3:36 - - > Is that one of Lemo's circular plug connectors (CPCs)?
Finally a radio hitting on what a large majority of people are looking for right now. A complete ready to operate emergency kit with antennas, case and battery. I’m sure it needs some refinements
If they could only deliver on it. The potential is really there. Also a potential market nowadays. Just the delivery on specifically the software and QC of the hardware is a mess. I own two and would LOVE for them to function as promised. Just appears that the team writing and QA the software are really not getting it done. Google the videos about this from non-Guohetec. You will see the experience that we have had with this and the family of radios from this manufacturer.
Shame because they could really be on to something, if they just brought in top tier developers, they could own this market space.
Always start at the top end of the foldable antenna when extending it and breaking it down! Actually, you can extend it by just throwing it down onto the ground and let the spring tension flick it together but in the long run that's not good for it. Same style we used with the PRC-77 man pack rigs in the Army. Thanks! 73 - Dino KLøS
PRC-77 weren't bad radios, the batteries were atrocious, and heavy to pack extras just to keep them running.
@@adamjones8218 Yep, and the poor company commander's RTO who had to carry the KY-38 crypto box married up to the PRC-77 doubled the weight!
I have noticed a trend. This type of thing usually releases with an impossible to read/tiny display, then 4-8 weeks later they release a touch screen add-on, and now you’re dealing with a radio that costs more than a 705.
This hog really does scream cool! I'm pretty new whilst stumbling through the world of antennas I keep coming across the exact words you said "80M through 10M" relative to a typical secondary option of "60M through 10" which is usually the higher cost. I grock most other things about antennas besides some of these numerologists most commonly used for ranges.
I would suspect the "MOOE" button is to communicate with British cows. 🤣🤣🤣
Meun, my favourite button! 😅
Josh, as always, thank you this video. The idea of $$$cost vs perceived value is a personal one. The initial “cool points” are high - in your words “second kinda cool”. My mobile setup is HUGE in comparison, but, it works and everything is 100watts on HF @and 50watts VHF/UHF - and - already paid for. Again, thank you - your are appreciated. KQ4IXD
Thank you for your great review. That looks like an over complicated rig with lots of problems and difficult to use. Would I buy one *NO* I will stick with my G90.
I like the vibe of the radio… interested to see how clean the output is.
It passed on 2m/70cm
I think I'll stick with my KX2, KX3, IC-705, or FT-818. :) I do question the quality of that keypad. It will need to be quite robust to give years of reliable service since--let's face it--you're going to be pushing a LOT of buttons to do pretty much anything. Thanks for this review, Josh! -Thomas
Cool looking radio, but do those buttons really say "MEUN" instead of MENU AND "MOOE" instead of MODE ?
Half moon bay is my hometown and mother still lives there. I hang my hat in Texas though.
Omg I love it......and ill never have it 😢
In this video, you mentioned that your father was in the Air Force and was stationed in Thailand at the same Air Force base as my dad was. How cool is that?
A nutnfancy reference and homage paid?! Well done sir.
Having owned a PRC-2000 Philips/Mel, the lack of a tuning knob for ham service is a major PITA.
"TACTICOOL!" LOL
5:00 “so that was a lie” 😂😂😂
This video is all kinds of cool! 😎
If you squint then it’s kind of like a Harris, they really do seem to be going for an end of the world comms video though
There are cool radios, and there are neat radios.
The connectors are called a HIROSE. Motorola uses them for their keyloaders
13:56 I will never not like a "LIGHTNINGBOLT!" reference.
Its to much money, but i love it! Very similar to my Army day's!
Jason, do any of these Guohetec radios have FCC approval, valid approvals?
Hi, I’m Josh
The preppers will be all over this
Word! 😅👊👍
It certainly fits the prepper POU
Not I, sir. FT-857D forever. ;-)
Yaesu 857d for the win. Beyond that literally any other HF right that’s substantially less expensive will prove to be a better rig. This radio basically targets a specific consumer base(the preppers) and/or fantasy militias. I think it will likely fall flat.
Preppers want a radio that's going to work when they need it to.
Not April 1 yet?? A sort of prepper’s posing pouch?
i like the use of The NutnFancy systems of cool
The MEUN version is 1800, the MENU version is only $400
I don't know anyone who can afford to spend $1,800 for a 20 watt transceiver. They won't sell many of them.
It's definitely a different kinda cool, I'd like to play around with one but I don't the juice is worth the squeeze
I understood that reference!
Kool kit, but for the price, I would sure like if if all the parts worked. 73
1:32 a 117 is not HF, it’s VHF/UHF. If you want an HF radio you need a 150 or 160.
Or 138 and a thick wad of cash.
We need some HRCC/TNP acronyms... hahaha
Yes we do
Spot on
Meun and mooe are my favorite
People have lost their mind pricing radios this days. Not even $500 I’ll pay for that thing. Maybe $200 and still not sure. It will drive me crazy to scroll the bands with just push buttons.
Where do I find the map at 13:16? Thank you in advance
Kiwisdr.com
The 2 first links do not work
Knew the reference from the title. Back before he went a little to ramble ramble for me I used to watch his stuff more. Neat radio, Not my jam exactly. It's close. Get 1.25 in there or more power or less money. Just not tickling me at the features and price point, I'd rather a G90 built into a manpack and decent HT or rally several other combinations of 2 radios you could do for the cost or 891 though a bit bigger obviously. Yea idk I feel like it's close to something maybe a version 2 with a slightly better price point, not half price mind just maybe a couple hundred less and polished up. If the included antenna was on par with one of the popular coils....Also for sure we need a vfo knob, like volume in a car it's no negotiable. Ramble over, probably.
Great review. Seems like a Small Niche item.
Not for me. Will stay with my FT857
Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt! Sleep!
South American para military here... That radio is NOT marketed for hams. It's being used all throughout South America by para military and NGO (others) on NON Ham bands. The folks using this stuff... know what they are doing.
2nd kind of cool is that shirt Josh.
You're damn right!
You can buy three or four real military 20 watt radios, admittedly '80s and '90s models, for the same price that will last significantly longer and are far higher quality. As we're suggested this really is a larping toy or for gullible preppers.
This is a militarized ruggedized G90
$2K !!!
Uh no, Xeigu G90 or three for the price😂😂😂
Agreed
I understand the 2nd cool parlance, even though I'm "just another dumbass civilian". I enjoy the idea of radios with different form factors. Maybe someone should make one that is actually built into a case.
Nutnfancy FTW!
can I do 27 mhz ?
That's a cool radio but not 1800 worth of cool. Make it a bit better and maybe I'd think about it. The form factor and looks are there.
Stop messing around Josh, just get to the Wolf RS998 already 😅
Does the MEUN button switch on the flashlight?
Chinese radios are absolute junk. Not for me.
Great first attempt, poor execution. When it gets cleaned up and issues fixed itll be great.
When a different company makes something similar to but better it'll be great
"MEUN". "THERSHOLD". Gotta love Chinglish.
I’ll stick with my TX-500 & Icom 705.
It reminds me a lot of the prick 25. My dad would have loved this thing if he were still around. I can see vietnam vets snapping them up.
Oh yeah!
No I'm a nam vet and bit on the pmr 171. A pos brick
@@glennbartlett4139 Well that sucks. Maybe Xeigu will come around and make one, then we'll know it will be decent.
Break for Nutnfancy
Its a poor quality radio, and guohetec has very bad customer support. Even in the niche market of manpack radios you are better off getting something like a G90 that is going to have better sound than this radio at a much cheaper price point. Not to mention you can find actual used military manpacks from time to time going for the $3000 price range. This is just a q900 glued into an aluminum case. It is way overpriced for what it is. If it were half its current price it may be worth it, but even then the radio has allot of issues.
I'm seeing prices from $3,000 to $5,000 for this radio. Given it's Chinese junk that's astonishing. But it reaffirms my consistent belief that TH-camrs work in a different currency than we normies do. Because every price they ever give is always 1/3rd what the cheapest available price online is. That or they see you guys post then triple the price to gouge even harder.
Are you seeing the link to their homepage for $1800? I gave the lowest price that I LINKED in the description. Why all this speculation about TH-camrs?
Boat anchor.
But does it ALE?
It cant even do DMR properly much less ALE. Better option is just use ION 2G Ale with an icom or yaesu rig
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What ?
Wrong thread.
So i have a USMC ILBE rucksack on the way right now and they have a radio pouch for inside the pack.....You timed this terribly with the cool factor. However the price helped deter me 110%.
You dodged a bullet
Those connectors look like Hirose knockoffs.
I can't trust Chinese radios....need more companies in the USA or elsewhere
No
$640 on ebay.
@Uncle_Buzz check again it's $2100, you're probably looking at their "secret keys" which is a proprietary "encryption" method where you have to pay them $300 for an "encryption key" and once it is assigned can't ever change it. Of course you need 2 of the $2000 radio and two of the keys for it to work. It's a total scam, the company is full of scammers
@@Davo759 WOW Sure enough. Scam through and through.
Made in China?
I'll stick with my pmr 171....800 dollars cheaper
It's cool, but not $4,000+ cool.
It's $1800
Good review but I would never want one
Zajímavý nápad pro military fanoušky, ovšem jak tomu často u Čínských TCVR bývá, nic nefunguje jak má a navíc za strašnou cenu.
NAH
Don’t count the Chinese radio mfg out. Xeigu has made great progress in features & reliability.