KR9 9mm AK Carbine, Can K-USA Copy Izhmash's Vityaz? (Teaser)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- We had hoped to get to the range this weekend and run this new gun through its paces, but Arkansas in February; the weather turned nasty. Still, we wanted to give you at least something on this here gun, so for now we give you our teaser-preview on the KR9 AK style carbine, chambered for 9mm NATO (9x19 Luger).
The KR9 is manufactured here by Kalashnikov-USA and is an attempt to clone/copy the Russian Izhmash Saiga-9 carbine. In turn, the Saiga-9 is the company's semi-only version of its Vityaz-SN submachinegun, which itself is based on the older PP-19 Bizon. So yeah, got all that?!?!
In this 1st look & impressions video, we show the new KR9, which after 3 years has made it onto the market, finally.
We have a lot planned for this AK, so please check back soon.
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Glad to see Kalashnikov-USA is getting up to speed on production. I just hope they can sustain a certain level of quality with the demand that is sure to be placed on them when word gets out(and if these work reliably). If the Vityaz works out, exciting things are potentially ahead for US AK enthusiasts.
You don't say!?!?! I thought Kalashnikov USA was just some kinda shell corporation, designed to torment and tease american AK lovers. I'm actually really excited about them now, hopefully we will see some great new stuff from Kalashnikov. Now if we can just get someone to make us a Mp-443! One day, One day!!!
Yep, i had similar feelings too....the only thing more shocking would be to hear that HMG actually released their STG44 clone.
@@misha5670 I'm sure the STG is coming out any day now. lol I really do wonder what happened there, I'm hoping that not too many poor people pre-ordered it.
Pre-ordering is one thing....putting full money down w/o even product built yet? Sorry but that's just damn stupid. I am a pretty sympathetic person, but sometimes people have to look out for themselves, know what I mean?
@@misha5670 Plain stupid, you would never catch me doing that with my hard earned money. It's kinda like the people who lose a fortune consulting psychics. Yes they got duped out of their money but I can't really feel bad because how could you be soooo stupid.
Its their money, they can spend it however they like, But yeah if its a dumb investment like a psychic or HMG, i just can't manage to feel sorry for them. If anything, i have to give some respect to that psychic for being crafty and earning money. The old saying about 'a fool and his money' is oh so true.
I think it looks damn good. Really glad to see they addressed the hollow point issue. Cant wait to see more of this.
I just got the KP-9, I absolutely love it. Ran a few hundred rounds through it today, not one hiccup. 115gr, 124gr, and 147gr, just chugged right through everything I put in it. I chose this over the AK-V because it’s closer to a direct clone to the Vityez, even with the extra bells and whistles of the PSA (LRBHO, ability to use Scorpion mags, a few hundred dollars cheaper lol). I don’t own a Scorpion so that didn’t matter much to me. I am planning on getting a AK-V also, but think I made the right choice in getting this one first. And if I don’t end up with both, I’ll be glad I have this one. Awesome little pistol!!!
Pretty sure the stock lock up is correct for vityaz, the parts kit builds and photos I’ve seen online have all locked like that when closed. It may not be the best way, but if it’s original for what a vityaz would have than that’s the way it should be in my opinion. Nice video, by the way. Thanks as usual for the great content.
Well I try and give honest reviews, so wanted to mention any and all issues/concerns/annoyances. The stock definitely locks onto that stud securely haha.
I would love to see a Vintorez or Val clone brought to the market, although that’s a pretty unrealistic pipe dream.
SoldierO7 both have integral suppressors so the market would be slim. 9x39 is being sold now so may see aks soon in that caliber
Rummors I heard: VSS or VAL has been stopped from import into the states after some of them has been recovered from "freedom fighters" (terrorists) in end of 90th or begin of 00th.
KALASHNIKOV had plans to release Civil VSS version with fake suppressor chambered 7.62х39 pr 9.39. th-cam.com/video/fo90Hx0h3DI/w-d-xo.html
There is a company that made a working val. They are looking for a larger manufacturing partner to help them.
Have you seen that Pioneer Arms Turkish Saiga 12 bullpup? That looks great to me. Turkey makes great guns.
There is no amount of bad weather that would keep me from shooting this. ESPECIALLY after the long anticipated wait. I'm excited to see the range video.
I really hope they finally got their act together. It's a good looking clone, so if it shoots as good as it looks, this may be the firearm that pulls their rep out of the mud.nice review. always look forward to your new content.
Agreed
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I like the pic rail under the gas block. Wish my veprs had them. Nice video.
You always get all the cool stuff!!!
Very nice .. will need one of these for my arsenal 👌🏽🙌🏼👍🏼🍾.. woot woot 🇺🇸
Hoping it runs like it looks.
Misha I hope so 🙏🏼... lol
Can't wait to see it in action.
Me either...we'll try and make it jam lol.
take it apart!!!!! show the inside parts
First comment and first view! 😁✌️Another awesome video! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the video!
Want soooooo bad. I've been holding out hope fro years that these would come to market. Hopefully distributors will have them in stock soon.
This one came into stock at Atlantic.
The Definitive Arms AKX9 is amazing from my personal experience, just wish they used curved mags but oh well..
I wonder how that and the PSA version compare to this gun
I once put a zenit dustcover on the AKX9 and it made the rifle jam like crazy, So I went back to the original dust cover.
Man Those Bizon look so awesome, what an attractive looking Gun in my opinion.
Gotta be honest, the main and nearly only reason I was interested in getting one of these KR9s to try out was the whole Saiga-9/Vityaz clone aspect. For just a 9mm AK, my NAK9 'Draco' from Romania has prooven itself dead reliable and fun. The PP19-01 type mags are pretty nice too. They are light, easy to load, and go in/out of the firearm with little force.
Interesting I own the KR-9 it’s like no recoil absolutely a pleasure to shoot. It eat’s up any kind of ammo I put in it, very maneuverable in any scenario you can be in. Only problem I’ve found is magazines, I have to get more.
Looks like there’s a pistol grip reinforcement plate too. I’ve ordered my KP-9. Should be at my FFL dealer in about a week:)
Also, you’re probably aware already, but the stock is actually a clone of the Russian Vityaz stock.
Yep, it has the plate. Forgot to mention that while doing this one as I was running out of time. I did show it in the 2nd look video that's up on the personal channel now. Yep, internet was saying the Vityaz uses the AK74M stock, but that seems incorrect. Seems like it uses the same stock made for the PP19-02?
Let's the Russians make their own and show up their version more badass than us Americans a real traditional Russian ak SMG
With it being a blow back, I’d want to see how it runs when the barrel is shortened. Because that’s what I’d want it for, a short gun to stow in the truck when I’m cruising around the farm.
Shouldn't be an issue, since it is a blowback. Worst case, you might have to swap recoil springs but probably not. I bet KUSA uses the same internals for the carbine, pistol, and SBR.
Hope they can keep up. A lot of guys are gonna buy these. Too bad I just put a 107cr on layaway. I got no extra cash... Dammit!
Going off mag prices from Atlantic the Kalashnikov usa mags are comparable to glock 33rd. Even cheaper than factory Beretta 30rd mags. Got my pistol in today from impact guns. Put 80rds thru it and it ran flawlessly with factory mags. Would have shot more but the pufgun mags wouldn't lock in. Going to do a little fitting and see if i can get them to work. Wish me luck.
Good luck! Let us know how it goes. - Jay
Brandon Herrera needs to watch this
Saiga-9 & Vityaz 9
Do they use the same magazine of the KP9
If the kp9 is a 1:1 cloned I assume ill fit!
Thanks again!!
East Tn weather sucks now too. I bought a cz scorpion pistol with the flash can and folding brace and did the micro k conversion on it 2 weeks ago and have yet to put the first round through it. 🙁 F@#k winter!
Mishaco what's your take on the Century Arm's Romanian RH10 AK47? I'm trying to decide on the RH10 or the Wasr10 and would like to know which one to get
Basically the same gun; WASR has more of a classic look, while the RH10 is more modern/tactical. Now, pass me the salt shaker of blue.
I need one of these although I think I would go with the pistol version
Honestly? We took what we could get.
Is the recievers stamped with "KR-9" anywhere? The only stamping I saw was their logo. Thanks!
Yes, underside, in front of the trigger.
i tried to pick one up, but there sold out where did you get one at?
Like I say towards the end, this one just happened to pop into stock at Atlantic. I think they only received a couple though. More should be coming soon. ImpactGuns and a few others received them in also.
NAK9 = TH BEST!! THX M!!
Yep, this we will see. They'll go head-to-head asap.
Looks like they did a good job. It can look nice and be atrocious though.
Is this guys TH-cam videos the only export from Arkansas? I’ve never heard of it before.
I'm curious to see how the cast trunnions hold up on the ks12 and the kr9.
Can't wait to see you shoot this .....been looking for an ak 9 and a reliable one....not sure if you said the treads were right or left
Threads are 1/2x28 std.
I have been looking for a nice PCC ... found one
I'd the dust cover supposed to be bent above the ejection port like that?
Yep, all's fine in that area.
Can you guys test it whether or not the gun can be fired with the stock folded as with the russian Saiga-9 this is impossible due to some pin blocking the trigger for some russian civilian safety reasons
Yes, it can be fired with stock folded. To be exact, the stock can be folded with the safety off. On the Russian civilian Saiga-9, you can not fold the stock until the safety is placed in the upward position. This is because of how Russia's minimum OAL law is written. I had a Saiga-12 that had the stock-safety block in it. Luckily, it is an easily removed part....just don't tell Putin hehe.
Can we expect a AES 10B video soon? 😁
You got one just a couple weeks ago.
Misha I’m talking about the new imports that are now shipping. The all new manufactured rpk, not the “Bunker” finds.
Where did you acquire the black Russian sling?
It should be chambered in 10mm.
Do the Klash Usa AK's have loose tolerances like the Russian and other comblock variants do? PLE REPLY IF U HAVE TIME!!!! LOVE U & MIKE * EARL!!!!!
Fitment seems about the same as my SGL31 and SGL12, so I'd say yes, cheers.
AKs do not have loose tolerances. They have tight tolerances. Always have. The word you are looking for is: clearances.
Think that's a bayonet lug under the barrel... Not a pic rail for a vertical grip
How does it compare to the PSA version?
Really don't know, PSA version doesn't much interest me and Jay hasn't mentioned wanting to get one to try out either. Between the 2 of us, we have a lot of 9mm subguns, so we tend to be pretty choosy which ones we put time+effort into. Only so many hours in a range day, and ammo gets pricy quick as you know. This gun interests us because its a clone of a real Russian issue SMG. Plus KUSA is a new company and its interesting tos ee their quality level and all that.
So what's the deal with Kalashnikov USA? Last I heard RWC group just stole the Kalashnikov name because they knew Kalashnikov Concern was powerless to fight them because of the sanctions. Does Kalashnikov USA have any real Russian pedigree or is it a complete knock-off?
Honestly? there's no way they could have made the KP/KR9 without some pretty detailed info on the real, original Vityaz-SN. This thing is a true clone. I know of some private info on them but nothing conclusive or major, and probably bits of info I am not supposed to pass along right now. I'll do my very best to get more on them, heck maybe even an interview thing like we did with WBP? That'd be great.
@@misha5670 very interesting! Thanks for the reply! I've been curious about that for a while.
Where did you buy this?
Atlantic Firearms; i say it towards the end of the video.
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Foreplay with an AK.
Hopeful . Not a very useful "AK " except for possibly home defense use but ....... If it works , great . I think if it can go 1000 -2500 rds ( steel and brass) without fail , it should be good to go for that purpose . I say 1000 -2500 rds because the standards should be much higher on the 7.62x39--5.45 rifles as they would possibly face more use than a 9mm. Looking forward to a test !.
a 9mm is a simpler gun w/o as many parts. The cartridge itself is lighter of course, but at the same time, direct-blowback can be harder on things like the rear trunnion. If this were to fail, that would be one of the areas I'd figure would show wear first.
Nice! Think they should have gone with glock mags tho.
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I get going with the AK safety for appearances, but that's what I absolutely hate about AKs. Noisey ass oversized, sharp metal safety's.
will a 5.56 1/2X28 suppressor fit on this barrel..... this STUPIDITY is why I would not TRUST any of its mechanical design.
l’m just saying
WTF does that have anything to do with "trust of it's mechanical design"? Please tell me I'm missing your incredibly thick sarcasm...