I just traded my 2019 Tesla 3 in for a preowned 2022 Forester Sport with only 6k miles. I bought dual wireless charging pads for the Tesla for about $50. Worked great. The ONLY thing I miss about the Tesla is the amazing tech and amazing acceleration. That’s it. So much happier with my Subie.
The approach lights are cute. I always carry my key with me, so when I walk past my Forester to take a drive in my husband’s Crosstrek, my car acts like an excited puppy and lights up “hihihi! U wanna goforadrive??!”
Grace...my Forester too! I walk past and its little lights come on....I have a Crosstrek too that doesn't have the approach lights. Sometimes ill walk back and take the Forester just because it seems like it wants to go.
Thanks for telling me about this when we were buying our new Outback from you last year. Saved us the money and grief! Your honesty is always appreciated and valued!
I am so glad you spoke so candidly about the phone charger. That was the one thing i was really disappointed that i didn't get (I bought off the lot) in my 2024 Outback. But I noticed that the space for the phone - even without the charger - was tight... so i thought "hmmm... maybe it's ok without it..." Now I know i'm not missing out much. Thank you! Your videos are great!
Thanks for sharing! We have no need for a wireless charger, but your comments on the other accessories were helpful. My son had a hitch put on his used Prius that he bought from us, just for the purpose of toting bicycles. I'm sharing this video with him. Just in case they bring back the Baja, and he can buy one new... We sold him our Prius, because my husband has a degenerative medical condition that forced him to stop driving. Now as the sole driver, I chose to get rid of our 2015 Prius and keep our 2010 Forester. I loved the Prius drive system and gas savings, but I hated not being able to see out of the car. When we bought the Forester new, it seemed perfect for us. We drove it on long road trips, and around town with few issues. Probably the stupidest issue was needing the rear view mirror replaced when it suddenly detached from the windshield. The new rearview mirror caused complications with a later, unrelated windshield replacement. And of course the Takata airbag recalls, which don't count as a Subaru problem. In July 2022, I took it in for routine service: oil change and replace the battery. Of course they found some other "issues," such as a leaky head gasket (problem with that model year, apparently). I didn't believe them at first, but later took it back for the expensive repair. I had also noticed an issue with one of the windshield wipers, which turned out to be the wiper motor (of course!). Since that time up to the present, parts replaced include: radiator; spark plugs; spark plug wires (as a separate job) and 1 coil; engine short block; oil pump; fuel injector; the other coil; "new" (factory overhauled) transmission (I expected that one); Oil Control Valve, which was faulty, and had to be re-replaced; replaced the July 2022 battery with a new one, because the car sat in the repair lot for months, and they didn't bother keeping the battery charged; wiring harness (had to open up the engine again); oil pump (had to open up the engine again)... They also replaced my service rep. and the service manager during that time. Each of these repairs was done separately. And the Check Engine light has come on yet again (March 2023). Over a dozen stays at the service department in a year and 8 months. My late blooming lemon! Each time, they lent me a Subaru "courtesy car," so I have extensively test driven several 2023 or 2024 Foresters, Outbacks, and even a 7-seat Ascent. Each repair took at least a week or two, often months, while I was driving a new car, wondering when I was going to get my own car back. I keep wondering: "Haven't we replaced the entire car yet??" "Is this ever going to end?" "Are they just ripping me off, scamming me, playing games?" " Is there one big underlying issue that they're not getting?" "Are their mechanics just plain incompetent?" My philosophy has been that repairing a used car is usually cheaper than buying a new one. When dumb things like window handles start breaking, or the upholstery and the headliner are falling down, it's emotionally better to replace the car. The thing with my Forester is this: Yes, it's old time wise, but it's only gone 84,000-87,000 miles as of the past year and a half. All those people saying they've had their Subaru last 200,000 miles? Um, 87K vs 200K? What the hell is going on here? What's all this cost? At my dealer in southern California, they admit their prices are higher. But they have comped several of the major repairs. Nevertheless, the added up cost is enough to buy a pretty decent used car, and possibly even a cheap new car. If they'd made me pay for all of the repairs, it definitely would equal the cost of a new car. Had I known this when this whole thing started, I would have bailed. But how could I have known this would happen? Normally when I pay for an expensive repair, I want to drive the newly repaired car for awhile, to get a "return" on my "investment." With this car, I haven't been able to do that, because it just turns around and has another issue. I'm done with this nonsense. I need to get another car. Whatever is going on, my Forester will never be happy, and if he's not happy, I'm not happy. I want a newer Forester. I don't want to get a Toyota or something else. But now I don't trust the Subaru brand. Even if I do get a Forester, I don't want to get it from that dealer. I don't think they've been scamming me, but maybe they are. Maybe they have some really elaborate scheme that makes it worth their while to store my car on their lot, and occasionally have a mechanic work on it when they're not slammed with other jobs. Online research says that 2010 turned out to be a bad year for the Forester, in the long term. But how do I know whether 2023 or 2024 is a good year for the Forester? And why don't they offer a hybrid yet? I can't wait another year or two for them to offer a hybrid. So I'll do some more research, then maybe flip a coin.
I like using a 12 volt plug in charger plus charge cords for my phone. The cords do get in the way but they charge the phone reliably. I won't get a quick charge up but it is steady and reliable. The accessory that I like more than anything else is the auto vehicle hold. Ahhh, relief for my foot! The second most useful accessory for me is the blind spot detection. I do have a hitch installed in my car and a "1UpUSA" brand bicycle carrier. After seeing this video I want to get a plug for my hitch, it sounds like a great idea. I too got the hitch solely because I want the bicycle carrier capability.
One accessory I stopped adding a couple of Foresters ago was the bodyside mouldings because they do absolutely ZERO to save on digs and dents. I always add side window deflectors, front bug deflector, hitch and auto dimming mirror with compass and homelink so I can see directions easily instead of switching to navigation to know where I am heading. I have transferred my Weathertech brand mats, which are still like new, that I got with my 2017 Limited, worked great in my 2020 Touring and seamlessly transferred into my 2023 Premium. Since I am a VIP and get the hitch at cost it’s basically a trade-in/resale hedge since many people like it. As always thanks Alex for a great and informative video!!! PS after the 2017 Limited, I ditched the fob Remote Start, which was obsolete as my 2020 Touring had Starlink, however, that was also a nice option before Subaru seriously updated its Tech!
Auto dimming mirror and compass quit in my 2010 Forester after a year or two and I read it’s because the heat build up outside during the day in a parking lot during our hellish Texas summers kill them. Keep your climate in mind when getting accessories.
Hey Alex. I heard from other TH-camrs that the wireless charger is terrible. I rather spend the $$$ on a CD player as I have a bunch of CDs I can play 😂!!
I bought a 2023 Crosstrek Limited last year fully loaded, love it. Only complaint is the Tom Tom navigation system sucks. Can’t believe Subaru couldn’t do better.
I just got the 2024 Forester Wilderness 2 months ago. Mine came with the mats and the net. I added the back seat mats. I also got the mirrors and the trailer hitch. Two other options I got were the rear bumper cover and the front hood protector. I love all of it.
Before watching video: "I bet it's the wireless charger. Gotta be. It's awful. Definitely the wireless charger." Watching the video: "BINGO!" 🙂 A close second to me, though not an option, is that the weather widget requires a SiriusXM subscription. I hate that the widget cannot be removed ('22 OBW), so one has to keep the subscription or deal with the widget taking up space and not working.
If my ‘24 Impreza RS (same, perhaps slightly updated infotainment system) is on Apple CarPlay that widget will show weather icons through the phone iOS, otherwise you can just edit the widget selection to something else.
They used to come with weather band in the stock radios, back in the 90s. They should bring that back, no $ subscription needed. The satellite radio company is probably giving Subaru a kickback or something, to put some other companys proprietary name in the car like they do.
I love the sidelights on each exterior mirror. So glad Subaru is still doing those and mine is a 2016 forester. I only wish I could get blind spot notification added……those are accurate and I like the indication of yellow they placed on the top of the mirrors
So, I just bought a 2023 loaded touring XT. Even though the wireless charger was on the window sticker for it at the time, I believe it was installed at the port or at the dealer. I say this, because the old parts that came out for the cubby, we're in storage in the back of the car. The dealer also mentioned because of the parts shortage at the time, it was common that the window sticker items got installed after the fact. Yes, the wireless charger is terrible, I thought it would be great. My phone never increments while I'm connected to Android Auto. The wireless charger just cannot keep up. For the record, I have a Google Pixel 8 pro. Since the phone is on the large side, it's almost impossible to wedge the phone in with the case on. It's easier when the car is in gear. Also, I heard if you take out the little rubber piece, that your phone won't get as hot. I didn't see much of a difference removing it as far as charging ability. It's a waste of money. Mine also came with both the rubber floor mats and rug ones which are still new in the package. I'm not a fan of the rubber ones that came with it, but Facebook marketplace has many people selling WeatherTech floor liners. I also like that the rear view mirror, when flipped up, turns on the camera that sits on the XM radio antenna. I think that's pretty cool. Sorry for the long message. LoL Edit: One of the thing I forgot to mention, since I'm in Massachusetts, I am not eligible to get Subaru starlink. This is the case I think for all 2022 and newer. Kind of stupid that I lose out on the 3-year subscription because of my state.
One of the thing I forgot to mention, since I'm in Massachusetts, I am not eligible to get Subaru starlink. This is the case I think for all 2022 and newer. Kind of stupid that I lose out on the 3-year subscription because of my state.
@@Zanderthelab really? I have owned so many sets for other vehicles and they've all been pretty good. What's wrong with the ones from WeatherTech? Are the husky ones any better?
@@Zanderthelab The ones in all the vehicles I had, were well fitting, so I never ran into an issue. Yes, the WeatherTechs are very plasticky so that can be the case. They have their new performance models as well as some other vendors. Have a more rubbery texture. I just want more protection than the Subaru weather mats give me.
Glad I watched this. I own a 2021 Outback Limited with the moonroof, audio package and HomeLink. I always thought the side mirrors might be dimming, but thought I might be crazy. Glad to know I'm not crazy. Honestly surprised this feature isn't more common, especially on cars.
I agree with the charger concerns. We left that off my wife’s 23 Outback Touring. But my new Crosstrek limited has a surface charger that works great. Fast charging and doesn’t heat up my iPhone.
I love the wireless apple carplay / charging feature on my Crosstrek. Yes it’s not perfect but it’s such a huge time saver. No fiddling with cables. I just throw my phone in the cubby and drive. Which makes it my favorite daily drive feature.
I have the 22 outback premium, my favorite upgrade package included power tailgate, blind spot detection & push button start. I find the blind spot is a great safety feature when backing out of a parking spot. The worst upgrade was the rubber mats, they don’t cover enough of the carpet plus they’re expensive. You’re far better off buying the weather tech mats.
I bought a 2021 Outback and then a 2024 Outback, both with the wireless charger and yes I agree with the comments that this charger does overheat your phone.
The problem stems from car OEM’s don’t put any kind of thermal protection in the charging pad, so it’s really hard on the battery for the phone. I have a ‘24 Crosstrek Wilderness with the wireless charger and I never use it and keep it off. Wish I could have opted out and got the $400 or so in cash back.
Thank you so much for this review! I found your channel right after I purchased my 2022 Subaru Forester. I have regretted not having the charger pad until watching your video. I have a couple of aftermarket [leather] pockets that I’ve added on either side of the console. These are perfect for holding my phone when it’s plugged in and have a low profile. Because of a challenging situation with my purchase my Dealer gifted me all weather floor mats, the cargo net, and a Subaru sunshade. ❤
I known you really can share other videos but I have a detailed part and removal / install video to replace the wireless charger to a 4" storage cubbie. Also, tuxmat is the best floor mats you can get with the outback. They cover 100% of ALL the carpet in the front. Even up the sides.
The subaru all weather floor mats is the option I wish I didn't listen to the salesman and opted out of. Husky liners/weathertechs are far better mats than the subaru ones. Put the money towards husky/weather tech floor liners.
Agree with the value of 2 accessories: 1. Floor mats. Yes we can buy after-market third-party brands, and some of them are very good, but OEM floor mats have a perfect fit not only in size but also shape. 2. The Homelink for garage door control. I know we can use a separate controller (or phone) but having a button right on the mirror is so convenient. One other thing I would add, which is an option but not an accessory: Get the largest LCD panel they make. When I bought a Forester several years ago, there were 2 options, small and large (I forgot the sizes). I went with large, but large then is small now. If I got small then, it would be "ridiculously small" today after a few years.
Great video, Alex! Thanks! I have a 2023 Forester Wilderness, and I am also a mountain biker, and I called Subaru HQ to ask them to cover my hitch, parts and labor, and they did!! I have a 1-Up awesome bike rack. For my iPhone, I use the wireless dongle, and it works pretty well even though it sometimes takes a second try to get it connected.
I had auto dimmer door mirrors on my Saab and wouldn't be without them. I added them to our Crosstrek. And to my sons Impreza. No more being blinded on the sides! The approach lights are a nice touch. Adding interior and exterior auto-dimming mirrors can be bought from Subaru online and are easy to install if you are a bit handy.
We got the same car but in the touring trim. We got almost all the accessories you got and absolutely love our Outback. Watching your videos makes me miss my car while im at work 🤣🤣😭😭
I have most of those accessories on my '22 OB, but I did it a bit opposite - I wanted the wireless charger, but the salesman advised against it for the same reasons you gave. OTOH, I didn't have the trailer hitch installed at purchase. I had the OEM one installed later, and so it cost me like $300 more. I guess I saved that on the wireless charger tho! BTW, the OEM hitch is the one that the tow capacities are certified on, as well as the crash rating. Most aftermarket ones just bolt onto the crash bar, and they will not hold the tongue weight for towing. Because that is a safety item, my advice to Subaru buyers is to bite the bullet and pay for the Subaru hitch, and have it installed either at the factory or by the dealer.
I love your honest reviews. We have the same car. My smaller Apple se phone fits easily in the charger spot. If it’s getting hot, I flip it over so it sits there without being charged. For campers, the Exped Megamat duo (medium double) fits perfectly with the rear seats down. I also reverse the rear headrests when folding the rear seat down. Inno wedge roofbox is also perfect. Follow rei sales for 20% off. This is our families 7th Subaru.
I just bought a 2024 Forester used by the dealership as a loaner car and it came with a few of the extras mentioned: dimming mirrors (bonus), all-weather mats, and seat-backs. It also had the cargo shade which was the one thing I wanted besides the beautiful autumn green shade. Watching your videos to find out more about how my car works. Thanks, Alex!
The dimming rearview and side mirror approach are a must for me. I drive to work in the dark. I had it in my 19 OB. Got a Crosstrek and didn't. Wasn't pleased. Awaiting delivery of my '25 OB with everything I missed. Including the power lift gate. Once you have all the features you won't like being without them.
I brought home a new 2024 Crosstrek Sport a few days ago and I really like the wireless phone charger so far. It’s larger than the one on the video, doesn’t heat my iPhone noticeably, and seems to charge the phone pretty quickly. My only problem is remembering to take the phone with me when I get out of the car, but I’m getting better about it.
I’m 56 years old. The first feature I have grown irritated with is the Eyesight feature. The 2nd feature is the that shuts the engine off while stopped at a light.
On some models, if you press the brake pedal lightly, the engine apparently doesn't shut off (2024 Outback Wilderness). If you press the pedal firmly, it will. I've owned a Prius, so was used to the engine shutting off. It saves gas at stoplights. You only need the engine running if the A/C has run the battery down a bit. I guess Subaru has this feature, because they need to do something to improve the gas mileage, until they come out with more hybrid and electric models. I live in California, and a lot of people here appreciate any gas saving feature they can get, because.... gas prices. You may have an easier time getting used to this feature if you think about all the gas being saved. Also remember that the car was designed to do this, so you have to get used to the fact it IS a feature, and NOT a problem. However when my 2010 Forester started acting like that, I was concerned. For me, the only really annoying thing about it is that these newer models shut off just after I pull into my driveway, and before I set the parking brake. The engine has to start up again to set the brake. At least they give you a few seconds after shutting off the engine so you can roll up the windows.
Eyesight is great when it works but it doesn't work when you need it the most like blizzards, dense fog ... And yeah the shit the engine down feature would have been a deal breaker but it was shut off during the test drive of my 23 Wilderness. My 24 Crosstrek has it, but it's so much easier to shut it off by touching the touch screen rather than fumbling for the button on the Forester
It is amazing what you can learn on the internet. We have had our Forester for almost 5 years now. Two payments to go. I had no idea there was a second net in the cargo net contraption. I wondered why they made it have such a significant base but never thought enough about it to unzipper the base thing. Thank you.
You need a bit more of that curiosity trait. Do you have kids? This is the kind of thing that kids sometimes find out for their parents, because they have curiosity and act on it.
@@EXROBOWIDOW I can't argue with you. The Forester is my wife's car that I don't drive often. I have two of my own plus two for the kids. It is tough keeping up with the family fleet.
@@andrewnolan180My kid keeps telling me I must get one of those code reader things for my Forester. The poor car is unhappy all the time. I'm unhappy about taking it to be "fixed" all the time. Maybe my kid is right. No, probably he's right.
1- cooling seat ( ventilation ) 2- cooling gloves box 3- cooling center console 4-sound isolation 5- double windows panels for sound isolation 6- ac vent in ceiling 7- all windows full auto ( up and down ) 8- rolling all windows up and down by fob 9- side mirrors auto fold/unfold 10- side mirrors auto tilt with reverse between 0-5km/h 11- electric ac compressor like electric cars to save fuel and more engine energy efficiency 12- ………
Keep up the great work Alex! In my '22 Outback, I actually put a sponge in the charger slot to fill the gap so I wouldn't lose things in the space. Also, my Samsung phone does not fit well as it is easier to put the car in gear before putting the phone in the charger. My "easy" alternative was to put my phone in the console slot by the passenger leg and have a USB cable plugged in (when needed). ps. That cubby bin on the passenger side would be a great alternative for other models, like the Forester.
Outback has the worst wireless charger, its pretty much useless especially if you have your phone in a case. The biggest issue I have with it is the space. It is an incredibly tight fit.
Thanks! I have a ‘23 Outback Wilderness. It came with the wireless charger, and I completely agree with you. It takes up space, is slow to charge and heats up the phone which is really bad for its battery. Love the cargo net! I tow a utility trailer, so the hitch is great (especially with the rear view camera). Thanks. Love your Subaru videos.
I bought a charging pad on Amazon for my ‘23 Forester. I also bought a Bluetooth dongle so I don’t have to plug my phone in. It’s been a year and I like both.
I recently bought the 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness with the built-in phone charger, and I haven't noticed a slow pace of charging or over-heating, and there seems to be plenty of room (maybe if you're retrofitting it as an accessory, it's different). Maybe I'll notice a problem later but so far, it's fine.
I only regretted not being able to have 2 features with my '22 OBW, the wireless charger and the seat extension for my knees. Now I know that I'm not missing at least one of them 👍🏽
I bought a wireless charge mat for $60 for my Forester and it has the same issues (doesn't charge as quickly and heats up). I still use it , but I would not be happy if I spent over $300 for it. The self dimming mirror is worth every penny and was part of a package that had other worthwhile items for my 2023 Sport. Great video as always!
Recently brought 2024 Impreza Sport (New Zealand) which comes with all bells and whistles but wireless charger did not work from day one. It will be replaced under warranty. Rest of the car is fabulous and a big improvement on my previous 2017 model 🎉
One upside of the wireless charger is that it gives you some kind of option in cases where you've forgotten or misplaced your charging cord. When not being used, the tray can be powered off and used for storage cubby.
Thanks for posting. Getting my second Outback shortly. Had a 2022 Honda Ridgeline RTL-E, just traded for an Outback. Honda's wireless charger is garbage. Never charged, so I can't say if it overheated my phone; however, I have a wireless charger on my desk and it does overheat on occasion. I opted for the mirror accessory (side and rearview) and all-weather floor liners. Will probably add the splash guards myself as well as some of the other interior protection stuff. On my last Outback, I installed my own Curt hitch. It was surprisingly not that difficult.
Thanks Alex. Just bought a brand new 2024 model Subaru Forester a few weeks ago and learning about accessories. Got a set of slim-line Pro Racks (cross racks) which I’ve gotta pick up from the Auto store. Other accessories I ordered with the car are window protection (top of windows), Tow hitch as I tow a small boat, plus carry the e-bikes, cargo rear mat like you have, unfortunately got the carpet mats but should change to all weather ones like you have, canvas seat covers for the front seats. (My car isn’t leather seats like yours unfortunately). Thanks for the tip on not getting the wireless car charger / apple car play option. Was thinking of getting that but won’t now 👍
I’m glad to know that I’m not missing anything by not having the wireless charger. Thanks for the recommendation on the cargo net. I may have them install one at my next oil change. As always, great video Alex!
I don't even have to watch the video to know which one it is... the built-in wireless phone charger. It SORT OF works. And if the gear selector is in "Park," it's a bit hard to get the phone in and out. The Crystal Black Silica Onyx XT I wanted already had it. So I took it. I consider it "vestigial." Even those who didn't get it complain that the "cubby hole" is virtually useless, as well. It's too small and too difficult to use with the car in "Park." BUT! The rest of the car... I LOVE! I can live with this one small flaw. OK... I guess I'll watch the video now! LOL!
I just bought a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek today, and they either changed the wireless charger design for this year or maybe just for this model because it’s quite large and the same size as the typical cubby found in this spot like in the 2012 Civic I traded. I also didn’t notice it heating up my iPhone 15 plus when I used it on an hour long commute, though it’s definitely not a fast charger. Mine came with the all weather mats, and I have to say they’re my least favorite purchase. I like all weather mats and cargo liners, but these just feel cheap, and the cargo liner itself isn’t fully side to side with gaps on either ends to access some small compartments that I haven’t figured out the function of yet. Like I said, I just brought it home a few hours ago.
I had the dimming interior mirror, bumper cover and trailer hitch installed by the dealer on my 2023 forester wilderness. Only complaint is they would not install 7 pin electric hookup for the hitch so I had to upgrade the 4 pin to 7 through a local trailer dealer. And I also have the cargo net and seat back covers and I’m glad I got them.
Fully agree on charger; have seen many complaints of the heat issue on the forums. I did not pick that option thankfully for my 2023 Ascent Limited. Very happy with it. Subaru Outback driver from 1998 to 2023. Great cars. @nd and 2rd row seat backs was a great choice especially with my grandkids in the back. I did get the OEM trailer hitch. The cargo net takes up a lot of room in the back of the Ascent.
I have a 2021 Outback with the wireless charging. I use a dongle to wirelessly use Carplay and it works well. When I use Apple Maps for navigation, which I like better than the Subaru navigation, and the iPhone is on charge, it takes the poor phone to extreme heat levels. So I agree with you about the charging. It is handy to charge my wife’s phone as she runs hers down very low. She turns it off and uses the wireless charger and it doesn’t seem to get so hot. Fortunately in Canada, Subaru doesn’t sell individual options with vehicles, they are part of a package. I don’t know how much this item costs but I love the other things the package offers.
I agree. I picked up my 2024 XT a week ago and it came with the wireless charger. I preferred it didn’t for the lack of space and it does make my phone very hot. I don’t plan to ever use it. I also got all the other accessories here except for the trailer hitch. I may install that at some point too.
We own a 24 Touring XT and the charger is our biggest regret. I have a $10 wireless charger in my old minivan that is far superior to that $455 POS.... I
I have the '24 Crosstrek Sport that came with the wireless charger. I turned it off the day I bought it and have never used it due to my old phone not supporting wireless charging. My rep at Subaru showed me all the features in the car and specifically said he hates the charger for the very same reasons you mentioned (though my charging well is much bigger than in the OB), as well as some issues with connecting with wireless Apple CarPlay. So I just use the USB cable. No biggy.
I agree. I got one with my car, I've barely ever used it. It doesn't even fit my S21+ with Otterbox on it, so now I just have a wireless Android Auto dongle sitting in it, which is one of my favorite accessories.
I wish I had bought the Rockford Fosgate system up front, the stock system is TERRIBLE so I ended up adding that later, and I'm much happier with it. I wish I had not gotten the wireless charger and gotten the Rockford Fosgate system up front.
The factory all weather floor liners are pretty much useless for providing good coverage in snow country. That’s the same case with my 2013 Crosstrek. I bought Husky Weather Beater floor lines, which extend further up the carpet on the center hump, as well as further forward.
I have the factory installed wireless charger. For my iPhone 15, it charges very rapidly and doesn’t overheat. My only complaint is that when the car is in Park it can be difficult to remove the phone because of how close the shifter is to the charger. Overall I love it and would order it again.
Very useful. Have me thinking about that hitch. It will cost me to do after the fact, i believe we own the same Outback, same year, same trim, I have the Onyx XT. Thank you!🙃 Your stuff is educational and useful.
@@thezindyproject Yes, infotainment screens are hugely expensive to replace. The screen protector costs $20. Several things can permanently stain the actual screen such as sun screen and oils to name a few. The screen protector not only protects against permanent stains, but scratches as well. I had mine on within 15 minutes of picking my car up at the dealer. Once installed, you can't tell it's on, just like your screen protector for your cell phone.
I enjoy your video! I didn’t know about the second net in the cargo net. So good to know! And I was feeling disappointed I didn’t have the Bluetooth CarPlay option but after this video about the heating up and bad location for the phone, I feel much more satisfied with my plug in version, BTW, I have a 21, Outback.
I’m in Australia so this comment may not be applicable in the USA. Some years back I bought a 2018 Outback, top of the range. Missing however were front bumper sensors. I had the dealer install the Subaru genuine accessories even though they were the most expensive.. I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO DISAPPOINTED. I was expecting them to be integrated into the eyesight system, but no such luck. No better than what would come in a corn flakes box!!
I'm in the market for a car. I've narrowed it down to Subaru or Toyota. I'm an older widow, and im worried about making the wrong choice. Im trying to learn as much as possible, and i really enjoy these videos. Im still trying to make the right choice!!
Honestly you can go wrong with either. Toyota and Subaru will carry you reliably as long as you keep up with the maintenance. Subarus are a bit cheaper. Best bet is to test drive a rav4 and then a forester (or if you want something a bit smaller corolla cross and a crosstrek)
Hi Alex, we found the charger works with or without the rubber pad in place giving a little more room for maneuverability. It's still slooow and heats the phone.
I agree with Alex the added cell phone charger heats up the battery in my cell phone to where I believe it’s being damaged. Therefore what I’ve done is I plugged the cord in in the backseat and bring it over the console and plug in my phone. Problem solvedand the cords out-of-the-way.
Totally agree, the wireless charger is not living up to my expectations. It does heat up the phone, and It does not charge as it should. The phone is difficult to remove too.
homekit/ Garage opener buttons can be programmed to turn on wireless controlled lights as well. I have one button set to turn on the shop light in my garage
I have a 2024 Impreza and was happy to know that I didn't get that wireless charger. There's no magnets in it so your phone could go flying if you brake hard or take off quick or something. I have the stereo without wireless CarPlay so I bought a $30 adapter on Amazon to solve that and then I bought a magnetic charger that goes into one of the cup holders. That setup works well for me and was maybe a quarter of the cost of the Subaru wireless charger.
The Subaru wireless charger is terrible! I have an Ascent so there is a more space for the phone but the phone still gets burning hot, especially if you are using wireless car play/android auto and have it on the charger. It charges so slow and creates so much heat. Subaru didn't think this one though. It needs a cooling fan built into it to try to dissipate the heat. I told the dealer about it last year right after I bought my car in November and they said they've never heard of the problem before. Glad you made this video.
I love my 2023 Outback Onyx but hate the wireless charging that came with the car. It overheats my iPhone also so I don't use it. On long trips, I will use the USB port and cable for Google Maps and Apple Car Play. My Subaru dealer just did the 30K miles service and I am pleased with my Outback and with the service my dealer here in CT does maintaining my Subaru. My wife also has a Subaru Legasy Ltd. I enjoy your videos Alex and thank you for your informative content.
I have a 2023 Crosstrek Sport. I so wish it had wireless carplay! Instead, I get 2 USB-A and no USB-C. I'm not a fan of wireless charging though. I agree with you on the all weather liners. I made sure to get those.
Also, the Wilderness, they gave me the carpet mats in the packaging but the all weather mats were installed. I upgraded to the back cargo and seat all weather as well. They were hard to install but my dealership were happy to do that for me.
I ordered the OEM hitch (installed at the Indiana factory) on my 2025 Outback for my bike rack. The salesman told me the same OEM hitch is more expensive if installed by the dealer (I think about $50.) Cheers.
i only ever experienced the wireless charging pads in rentals. each and every one heated my phone AND so slowly they seemed useless. now i have a crosstrek. it came with the pad and i don’t imagine i’ll be using it much at all.
Love your Outback color Layout. I have a 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness with the charging pad. It’s much larger than yours but it’s pretty weak and your phone slides around so it comes off of charging. It came with the vehicle but it’s lame at best. Thanks for sharing all about the cargo net. Was not sure how it all worked! Love your videos.
I find other aftermarket mats better than the oem ones. I got husky liners. Nice high sides not floppy. Good luck raking those mats out with water amd not spilling any
Is that a kitty sticker under your hazard light button? What's that story? I have a 2024 Outback Onyx ST! I LOVE it! Thanks for all your videos! They are super informative!
Thanks. On my 4th Subaru. The cargo net was good. Also it is always better to have a trailer hitch from the manufacturer. I wish Subaru would have a process to retrofit Apple Car Play like Hyundai does, for my 2018 Subaru Forester.
Wireless charging system on my cross track wilderness is awesome. The on/off switch allows me to shut it off if I feel the phones heating up. In addition the wireless CarPlay works perfectly. Really enjoy google maps in satellite view for my navigation system. On the 11.6 “ infotainment screen the resolution is perfect.
In 2015 we were getting a new Forester and we got a few bells and whistles on it. But they had this decked out Legacy 3.6R in the showroom, boy that's a nice car. I don't drive much so I've only got 35K miles on it. I hope I'm driving that car for many years yet. No phone charger though, that wasn't an option in those days :)
I also ordered my 22 touring...didnt get the wireless charging since my wife likes to plug in the charger and still be on the phone,,only acc I did get and like is the rain guards,mud flaps,and tow hitch.i also bought off Amazon the coin holder which replaces the fuse door...easy to install
I just traded my 2019 Tesla 3 in for a preowned 2022 Forester Sport with only 6k miles. I bought dual wireless charging pads for the Tesla for about $50. Worked great. The ONLY thing I miss about the Tesla is the amazing tech and amazing acceleration. That’s it. So much happier with my Subie.
The approach lights are cute. I always carry my key with me, so when I walk past my Forester to take a drive in my husband’s Crosstrek, my car acts like an excited puppy and lights up “hihihi! U wanna goforadrive??!”
Grace...my Forester too! I walk past and its little lights come on....I have a Crosstrek too that doesn't have the approach lights. Sometimes ill walk back and take the Forester just because it seems like it wants to go.
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What is the approach light?
@@v.voravann3761the little white lights on both mirrors that light up when you walk up to it
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Thanks for telling me about this when we were buying our new Outback from you last year. Saved us the money and grief! Your honesty is always appreciated and valued!
My 2023 Outback is awesome! I cannot believe the hauling capacity in the back. The safety features are the best!❤
I am so glad you spoke so candidly about the phone charger. That was the one thing i was really disappointed that i didn't get (I bought off the lot) in my 2024 Outback. But I noticed that the space for the phone - even without the charger - was tight... so i thought "hmmm... maybe it's ok without it..." Now I know i'm not missing out much. Thank you! Your videos are great!
Thanks for sharing! We have no need for a wireless charger, but your comments on the other accessories were helpful. My son had a hitch put on his used Prius that he bought from us, just for the purpose of toting bicycles. I'm sharing this video with him. Just in case they bring back the Baja, and he can buy one new...
We sold him our Prius, because my husband has a degenerative medical condition that forced him to stop driving. Now as the sole driver, I chose to get rid of our 2015 Prius and keep our 2010 Forester. I loved the Prius drive system and gas savings, but I hated not being able to see out of the car.
When we bought the Forester new, it seemed perfect for us. We drove it on long road trips, and around town with few issues. Probably the stupidest issue was needing the rear view mirror replaced when it suddenly detached from the windshield. The new rearview mirror caused complications with a later, unrelated windshield replacement. And of course the Takata airbag recalls, which don't count as a Subaru problem.
In July 2022, I took it in for routine service: oil change and replace the battery. Of course they found some other "issues," such as a leaky head gasket (problem with that model year, apparently). I didn't believe them at first, but later took it back for the expensive repair. I had also noticed an issue with one of the windshield wipers, which turned out to be the wiper motor (of course!). Since that time up to the present, parts replaced include: radiator; spark plugs; spark plug wires (as a separate job) and 1 coil; engine short block; oil pump; fuel injector; the other coil; "new" (factory overhauled) transmission (I expected that one); Oil Control Valve, which was faulty, and had to be re-replaced; replaced the July 2022 battery with a new one, because the car sat in the repair lot for months, and they didn't bother keeping the battery charged; wiring harness (had to open up the engine again); oil pump (had to open up the engine again)... They also replaced my service rep. and the service manager during that time. Each of these repairs was done separately. And the Check Engine light has come on yet again (March 2023). Over a dozen stays at the service department in a year and 8 months. My late blooming lemon!
Each time, they lent me a Subaru "courtesy car," so I have extensively test driven several 2023 or 2024 Foresters, Outbacks, and even a 7-seat Ascent. Each repair took at least a week or two, often months, while I was driving a new car, wondering when I was going to get my own car back. I keep wondering: "Haven't we replaced the entire car yet??" "Is this ever going to end?" "Are they just ripping me off, scamming me, playing games?" " Is there one big underlying issue that they're not getting?" "Are their mechanics just plain incompetent?"
My philosophy has been that repairing a used car is usually cheaper than buying a new one. When dumb things like window handles start breaking, or the upholstery and the headliner are falling down, it's emotionally better to replace the car. The thing with my Forester is this: Yes, it's old time wise, but it's only gone 84,000-87,000 miles as of the past year and a half. All those people saying they've had their Subaru last 200,000 miles? Um, 87K vs 200K? What the hell is going on here?
What's all this cost? At my dealer in southern California, they admit their prices are higher. But they have comped several of the major repairs. Nevertheless, the added up cost is enough to buy a pretty decent used car, and possibly even a cheap new car. If they'd made me pay for all of the repairs, it definitely would equal the cost of a new car. Had I known this when this whole thing started, I would have bailed. But how could I have known this would happen? Normally when I pay for an expensive repair, I want to drive the newly repaired car for awhile, to get a "return" on my "investment." With this car, I haven't been able to do that, because it just turns around and has another issue.
I'm done with this nonsense. I need to get another car. Whatever is going on, my Forester will never be happy, and if he's not happy, I'm not happy. I want a newer Forester. I don't want to get a Toyota or something else. But now I don't trust the Subaru brand. Even if I do get a Forester, I don't want to get it from that dealer. I don't think they've been scamming me, but maybe they are. Maybe they have some really elaborate scheme that makes it worth their while to store my car on their lot, and occasionally have a mechanic work on it when they're not slammed with other jobs.
Online research says that 2010 turned out to be a bad year for the Forester, in the long term. But how do I know whether 2023 or 2024 is a good year for the Forester? And why don't they offer a hybrid yet? I can't wait another year or two for them to offer a hybrid. So I'll do some more research, then maybe flip a coin.
I like using a 12 volt plug in charger plus charge cords for my phone. The cords do get in the way but they charge the phone reliably. I won't get a quick charge up but it is steady and reliable. The accessory that I like more than anything else is the auto vehicle hold. Ahhh, relief for my foot! The second most useful accessory for me is the blind spot detection. I do have a hitch installed in my car and a "1UpUSA" brand bicycle carrier. After seeing this video I want to get a plug for my hitch, it sounds like a great idea. I too got the hitch solely because I want the bicycle carrier capability.
One accessory I stopped adding a couple of Foresters ago was the bodyside mouldings because they do absolutely ZERO to save on digs and dents. I always add side window deflectors, front bug deflector, hitch and auto dimming mirror with compass and homelink so I can see directions easily instead of switching to navigation to know where I am heading. I have transferred my Weathertech brand mats, which are still like new, that I got with my 2017 Limited, worked great in my 2020 Touring and seamlessly transferred into my 2023 Premium. Since I am a VIP and get the hitch at cost it’s basically a trade-in/resale hedge since many people like it. As always thanks Alex for a great and informative video!!! PS after the 2017 Limited, I ditched the fob Remote Start, which was obsolete as my 2020 Touring had Starlink, however, that was also a nice option before Subaru seriously updated its Tech!
Auto dimming mirror and compass quit in my 2010 Forester after a year or two and I read it’s because the heat build up outside during the day in a parking lot during our hellish Texas summers kill them. Keep your climate in mind when getting accessories.
Hey Alex. I heard from other TH-camrs that the wireless charger is terrible. I rather spend the $$$ on a CD player as I have a bunch of CDs I can play 😂!!
Worst accessory in Outback : Wireless charger, waste of money. 😩
I disagree. My works very well
Good for you
I own a Mazda cx90. I charged my phone in the wireless charger once. I thought it was going to catch on fire after 10 minutes. Not worth it.
I'm scared of the same reason. Catching fire is the worst thing to happen🤒
I bought a 2023 Crosstrek Limited last year fully loaded, love it. Only complaint is the Tom Tom navigation system sucks. Can’t believe Subaru couldn’t do better.
I prefer to use Car Play to connect to you phone maps. It’s so much easier.
I just got the 2024 Forester Wilderness 2 months ago. Mine came with the mats and the net. I added the back seat mats. I also got the mirrors and the trailer hitch. Two other options I got were the rear bumper cover and the front hood protector. I love all of it.
How much were your back seat protectors? If I may ask
@cassandravilla531 Sorry, I just saw this. I realize it's 5 months, too late. But, I don't remember.
Before watching video: "I bet it's the wireless charger. Gotta be. It's awful. Definitely the wireless charger."
Watching the video: "BINGO!" 🙂
A close second to me, though not an option, is that the weather widget requires a SiriusXM subscription. I hate that the widget cannot be removed ('22 OBW), so one has to keep the subscription or deal with the widget taking up space and not working.
If my ‘24 Impreza RS (same, perhaps slightly updated infotainment system) is on Apple CarPlay that widget will show weather icons through the phone iOS, otherwise you can just edit the widget selection to something else.
They used to come with weather band in the stock radios, back in the 90s. They should bring that back, no $ subscription needed. The satellite radio company is probably giving Subaru a kickback or something, to put some other companys proprietary name in the car like they do.
@@nschmalenbergerinto the early aughts. I think the last year was 08. I love having WB in my 03 OBW
same!
I love the sidelights on each exterior mirror. So glad Subaru is still doing those and mine is a 2016 forester. I only wish I could get blind spot notification added……those are accurate and I like the indication of yellow they placed on the top of the mirrors
It took a while to get used to blind spot notification, but I really like it! I bought my 2020 Outback used and never would have bought it outright.
Our touring XT came with the Subi AW mats. Replaced them with Weathertech, superior in every way.
I did the same for my 2019 Impreza Sport Tech. Huge difference. Love, love my Subie.
The wireless charger on the 2024 crosstrek is wonderful. They moved that switch and large cellphones fit perfectly.
Yes! and you can do fast charging now!
So, I just bought a 2023 loaded touring XT. Even though the wireless charger was on the window sticker for it at the time, I believe it was installed at the port or at the dealer. I say this, because the old parts that came out for the cubby, we're in storage in the back of the car. The dealer also mentioned because of the parts shortage at the time, it was common that the window sticker items got installed after the fact. Yes, the wireless charger is terrible, I thought it would be great. My phone never increments while I'm connected to Android Auto. The wireless charger just cannot keep up. For the record, I have a Google Pixel 8 pro. Since the phone is on the large side, it's almost impossible to wedge the phone in with the case on. It's easier when the car is in gear. Also, I heard if you take out the little rubber piece, that your phone won't get as hot. I didn't see much of a difference removing it as far as charging ability. It's a waste of money. Mine also came with both the rubber floor mats and rug ones which are still new in the package. I'm not a fan of the rubber ones that came with it, but Facebook marketplace has many people selling WeatherTech floor liners. I also like that the rear view mirror, when flipped up, turns on the camera that sits on the XM radio antenna. I think that's pretty cool. Sorry for the long message. LoL
Edit: One of the thing I forgot to mention, since I'm in Massachusetts, I am not eligible to get Subaru starlink. This is the case I think for all 2022 and newer. Kind of stupid that I lose out on the 3-year subscription because of my state.
One of the thing I forgot to mention, since I'm in Massachusetts, I am not eligible to get Subaru starlink. This is the case I think for all 2022 and newer. Kind of stupid that I lose out on the 3-year subscription because of my state.
Weather tech sucks don’t do it
@@Zanderthelab really? I have owned so many sets for other vehicles and they've all been pretty good. What's wrong with the ones from WeatherTech? Are the husky ones any better?
@@m3rdpwr I haven’t tried huskies. My weather tech moves around it never stays in place and it’s not grippy.
@@Zanderthelab The ones in all the vehicles I had, were well fitting, so I never ran into an issue. Yes, the WeatherTechs are very plasticky so that can be the case. They have their new performance models as well as some other vendors. Have a more rubbery texture. I just want more protection than the Subaru weather mats give me.
I love my cargo net. I love that it's two in one, and I love how nice and neat they both stow away when not in use. Good call!
Glad I watched this. I own a 2021 Outback Limited with the moonroof, audio package and HomeLink. I always thought the side mirrors might be dimming, but thought I might be crazy. Glad to know I'm not crazy. Honestly surprised this feature isn't more common, especially on cars.
Auto dimming side mirrors are awesome. Driving at night without them is nightmare
I agree with the charger concerns. We left that off my wife’s 23 Outback Touring. But my new Crosstrek limited has a surface charger that works great. Fast charging and doesn’t heat up my iPhone.
My experience with the charger in my new Crosstrek Sport is the same. No problems.
Hi, congratulations on your new Subaru, nice video btw! Will you install a dash cam in your new Outback? If so, will you do a video on that? Thx!
I love the wireless apple carplay / charging feature on my Crosstrek. Yes it’s not perfect but it’s such a huge time saver. No fiddling with cables. I just throw my phone in the cubby and drive. Which makes it my favorite daily drive feature.
I have the 22 outback premium, my favorite upgrade package included power tailgate, blind spot detection & push button start. I find the blind spot is a great safety feature when backing out of a parking spot.
The worst upgrade was the rubber mats, they don’t cover enough of the carpet plus they’re expensive. You’re far better off buying the weather tech mats.
People.
There's a cord you plug into a power outlet.
Plug the other end into your phone.
Charge your phone.
Wow!!!!!!
I bought a 2021 Outback and then a 2024 Outback, both with the wireless charger and yes I agree with the comments that this charger does overheat your phone.
Hopefully future version of this are better
Apparently a lot of car wireless chargers receive the same complaint.
Yes, I regret my purchase to get the charger. It works sporadically…
The problem stems from car OEM’s don’t put any kind of thermal protection in the charging pad, so it’s really hard on the battery for the phone. I have a ‘24 Crosstrek Wilderness with the wireless charger and I never use it and keep it off. Wish I could have opted out and got the $400 or so in cash back.
Thanks for your honesty. I bought my CT Limited and a lot of options were included. We never use the charging pad because our phones are too big.
Thank you so much for this review! I found your channel right after I purchased my 2022 Subaru Forester. I have regretted not having the charger pad until watching your video. I have a couple of aftermarket [leather] pockets that I’ve added on either side of the console. These are perfect for holding my phone when it’s plugged in and have a low profile.
Because of a challenging situation with my purchase my Dealer gifted me all weather floor mats, the cargo net, and a Subaru sunshade. ❤
I had no idea that the cargo net was a dual set-up! Mind blown! Thanks for sharing that!
Love my 2021 Outback, especially getting 0% financing in December 2020.
A shout out thank you to Alex for all of you Subaru videos.
I known you really can share other videos but I have a detailed part and removal / install video to replace the wireless charger to a 4" storage cubbie. Also, tuxmat is the best floor mats you can get with the outback. They cover 100% of ALL the carpet in the front. Even up the sides.
I would like to see that video
It's under my name which is the channel name.
The subaru all weather floor mats is the option I wish I didn't listen to the salesman and opted out of. Husky liners/weathertechs are far better mats than the subaru ones. Put the money towards husky/weather tech floor liners.
Agree with the value of 2 accessories: 1. Floor mats. Yes we can buy after-market third-party brands, and some of them are very good, but OEM floor mats have a perfect fit not only in size but also shape. 2. The Homelink for garage door control. I know we can use a separate controller (or phone) but having a button right on the mirror is so convenient.
One other thing I would add, which is an option but not an accessory: Get the largest LCD panel they make. When I bought a Forester several years ago, there were 2 options, small and large (I forgot the sizes). I went with large, but large then is small now. If I got small then, it would be "ridiculously small" today after a few years.
I'm liking that cargo net, I will be looking into one. Thank you for showing it.
Great video, Alex! Thanks! I have a 2023 Forester Wilderness, and I am also a mountain biker, and I called Subaru HQ to ask them to cover my hitch, parts and labor, and they did!! I have a 1-Up awesome bike rack. For my iPhone, I use the wireless dongle, and it works pretty well even though it sometimes takes a second try to get it connected.
I had auto dimmer door mirrors on my Saab and wouldn't be without them. I added them to our Crosstrek. And to my sons Impreza. No more being blinded on the sides! The approach lights are a nice touch. Adding interior and exterior auto-dimming mirrors can be bought from Subaru online and are easy to install if you are a bit handy.
We got the same car but in the touring trim. We got almost all the accessories you got and absolutely love our Outback. Watching your videos makes me miss my car while im at work 🤣🤣😭😭
The Touring is amazing! I'd love to have those ventilated seats this time of year 😅
@@alexpmo my wife loves the ventilated seat, I on the other hand need the heated ones due to back issues.
I have most of those accessories on my '22 OB, but I did it a bit opposite - I wanted the wireless charger, but the salesman advised against it for the same reasons you gave. OTOH, I didn't have the trailer hitch installed at purchase. I had the OEM one installed later, and so it cost me like $300 more. I guess I saved that on the wireless charger tho! BTW, the OEM hitch is the one that the tow capacities are certified on, as well as the crash rating. Most aftermarket ones just bolt onto the crash bar, and they will not hold the tongue weight for towing. Because that is a safety item, my advice to Subaru buyers is to bite the bullet and pay for the Subaru hitch, and have it installed either at the factory or by the dealer.
I love your honest reviews. We have the same car. My smaller Apple se phone fits easily in the charger spot. If it’s getting hot, I flip it over so it sits there without being charged.
For campers, the Exped Megamat duo (medium double) fits perfectly with the rear seats down. I also reverse the rear headrests when folding the rear seat down. Inno wedge roofbox is also perfect. Follow rei sales for 20% off. This is our families 7th Subaru.
As a new Subaru owner I love your information.
I just bought a 2024 Forester used by the dealership as a loaner car and it came with a few of the extras mentioned: dimming mirrors (bonus), all-weather mats, and seat-backs. It also had the cargo shade which was the one thing I wanted besides the beautiful autumn green shade. Watching your videos to find out more about how my car works. Thanks, Alex!
Congrats on your new Forester!
The dimming rearview and side mirror approach are a must for me. I drive to work in the dark. I had it in my 19 OB. Got a Crosstrek and didn't. Wasn't pleased. Awaiting delivery of my '25 OB with everything I missed. Including the power lift gate. Once you have all the features you won't like being without them.
I brought home a new 2024 Crosstrek Sport a few days ago and I really like the wireless phone charger so far. It’s larger than the one on the video, doesn’t heat my iPhone noticeably, and seems to charge the phone pretty quickly. My only problem is remembering to take the phone with me when I get out of the car, but I’m getting better about it.
I’m 56 years old. The first feature I have grown irritated with is the Eyesight feature. The 2nd feature is the that shuts the engine off while stopped at a light.
On some models, if you press the brake pedal lightly, the engine apparently doesn't shut off (2024 Outback Wilderness). If you press the pedal firmly, it will. I've owned a Prius, so was used to the engine shutting off. It saves gas at stoplights. You only need the engine running if the A/C has run the battery down a bit. I guess Subaru has this feature, because they need to do something to improve the gas mileage, until they come out with more hybrid and electric models. I live in California, and a lot of people here appreciate any gas saving feature they can get, because.... gas prices.
You may have an easier time getting used to this feature if you think about all the gas being saved. Also remember that the car was designed to do this, so you have to get used to the fact it IS a feature, and NOT a problem. However when my 2010 Forester started acting like that, I was concerned.
For me, the only really annoying thing about it is that these newer models shut off just after I pull into my driveway, and before I set the parking brake. The engine has to start up again to set the brake. At least they give you a few seconds after shutting off the engine so you can roll up the windows.
Eyesight is great when it works but it doesn't work when you need it the most like blizzards, dense fog ... And yeah the shit the engine down feature would have been a deal breaker but it was shut off during the test drive of my 23 Wilderness. My 24 Crosstrek has it, but it's so much easier to shut it off by touching the touch screen rather than fumbling for the button on the Forester
I totally agree with you Alex - I regret that extra $$$ I spent on the wireless charger. I call it my phone toaster 🔥
It is amazing what you can learn on the internet. We have had our Forester for almost 5 years now. Two payments to go. I had no idea there was a second net in the cargo net contraption. I wondered why they made it have such a significant base but never thought enough about it to unzipper the base thing.
Thank you.
You need a bit more of that curiosity trait. Do you have kids? This is the kind of thing that kids sometimes find out for their parents, because they have curiosity and act on it.
@@EXROBOWIDOW I can't argue with you. The Forester is my wife's car that I don't drive often. I have two of my own plus two for the kids. It is tough keeping up with the family fleet.
@@andrewnolan180My kid keeps telling me I must get one of those code reader things for my Forester. The poor car is unhappy all the time. I'm unhappy about taking it to be "fixed" all the time. Maybe my kid is right. No, probably he's right.
1- cooling seat ( ventilation )
2- cooling gloves box
3- cooling center console
4-sound isolation
5- double windows panels for sound isolation
6- ac vent in ceiling
7- all windows full auto ( up and down )
8- rolling all windows up and down by fob
9- side mirrors auto fold/unfold
10- side mirrors auto tilt with reverse between 0-5km/h
11- electric ac compressor like electric cars to save fuel and more engine energy efficiency
12- ………
I got Tuxmats for my '23 Forester. Really nice floormats. High sides. Look great.
Keep up the great work Alex!
In my '22 Outback, I actually put a sponge in the charger slot to fill the gap so I wouldn't lose things in the space. Also, my Samsung phone does not fit well as it is easier to put the car in gear before putting the phone in the charger. My "easy" alternative was to put my phone in the console slot by the passenger leg and have a USB cable plugged in (when needed).
ps. That cubby bin on the passenger side would be a great alternative for other models, like the Forester.
Outback has the worst wireless charger, its pretty much useless especially if you have your phone in a case. The biggest issue I have with it is the space. It is an incredibly tight fit.
Thanks! I have a ‘23 Outback Wilderness. It came with the wireless charger, and I completely agree with you. It takes up space, is slow to charge and heats up the phone which is really bad for its battery.
Love the cargo net! I tow a utility trailer, so the hitch is great (especially with the rear view camera).
Thanks. Love your Subaru videos.
I bought a charging pad on Amazon for my ‘23 Forester. I also bought a Bluetooth dongle so I don’t have to plug my phone in. It’s been a year and I like both.
I recently bought the 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness with the built-in phone charger, and I haven't noticed a slow pace of charging or over-heating, and there seems to be plenty of room (maybe if you're retrofitting it as an accessory, it's different). Maybe I'll notice a problem later but so far, it's fine.
I only regretted not being able to have 2 features with my '22 OBW, the wireless charger and the seat extension for my knees. Now I know that I'm not missing at least one of them 👍🏽
I bought a wireless charge mat for $60 for my Forester and it has the same issues (doesn't charge as quickly and heats up). I still use it , but I would not be happy if I spent over $300 for it. The self dimming mirror is worth every penny and was part of a package that had other worthwhile items for my 2023 Sport. Great video as always!
Great insights on the trailer hitch and the cargo net(s)! Will definitely got with the dimming mirrors to reduce the distraction at night.
Recently brought 2024 Impreza Sport (New Zealand) which comes with all bells and whistles but wireless charger did not work from day one. It will be replaced under warranty. Rest of the car is fabulous and a big improvement on my previous 2017 model 🎉
One upside of the wireless charger is that it gives you some kind of option in cases where you've forgotten or misplaced your charging cord. When not being used, the tray can be powered off and used for storage cubby.
Just got my 2025 Outback yesterday, looking forward to learning from you!
As a 2023 Outback Wilderness owner, I agree 100%, in fact I don't even use it wirelessly, I hop in and just plug it in, it's a bit less laggy 🤷
Thanks for posting. Getting my second Outback shortly. Had a 2022 Honda Ridgeline RTL-E, just traded for an Outback. Honda's wireless charger is garbage. Never charged, so I can't say if it overheated my phone; however, I have a wireless charger on my desk and it does overheat on occasion. I opted for the mirror accessory (side and rearview) and all-weather floor liners. Will probably add the splash guards myself as well as some of the other interior protection stuff. On my last Outback, I installed my own Curt hitch. It was surprisingly not that difficult.
Thanks Alex. Just bought a brand new 2024 model Subaru Forester a few weeks ago and learning about accessories. Got a set of slim-line Pro Racks (cross racks) which I’ve gotta pick up from the Auto store. Other accessories I ordered with the car are window protection (top of windows), Tow hitch as I tow a small boat, plus carry the e-bikes, cargo rear mat like you have, unfortunately got the carpet mats but should change to all weather ones like you have, canvas seat covers for the front seats. (My car isn’t leather seats like yours unfortunately). Thanks for the tip on not getting the wireless car charger / apple car play option. Was thinking of getting that but won’t now 👍
I’m glad to know that I’m not missing anything by not having the wireless charger. Thanks for the recommendation on the cargo net. I may have them install one at my next oil change.
As always, great video Alex!
I don't even have to watch the video to know which one it is... the built-in wireless phone charger. It SORT OF works. And if the gear selector is in "Park," it's a bit hard to get the phone in and out. The Crystal Black Silica Onyx XT I wanted already had it. So I took it. I consider it "vestigial." Even those who didn't get it complain that the "cubby hole" is virtually useless, as well. It's too small and too difficult to use with the car in "Park."
BUT! The rest of the car... I LOVE! I can live with this one small flaw.
OK... I guess I'll watch the video now! LOL!
I just bought a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek today, and they either changed the wireless charger design for this year or maybe just for this model because it’s quite large and the same size as the typical cubby found in this spot like in the 2012 Civic I traded. I also didn’t notice it heating up my iPhone 15 plus when I used it on an hour long commute, though it’s definitely not a fast charger. Mine came with the all weather mats, and I have to say they’re my least favorite purchase. I like all weather mats and cargo liners, but these just feel cheap, and the cargo liner itself isn’t fully side to side with gaps on either ends to access some small compartments that I haven’t figured out the function of yet. Like I said, I just brought it home a few hours ago.
I had the dimming interior mirror, bumper cover and trailer hitch installed by the dealer on my 2023 forester wilderness. Only complaint is they would not install 7 pin electric hookup for the hitch so I had to upgrade the 4 pin to 7 through a local trailer dealer. And I also have the cargo net and seat back covers and I’m glad I got them.
Fully agree on charger; have seen many complaints of the heat issue on the forums. I did not pick that option thankfully for my 2023 Ascent Limited. Very happy with it. Subaru Outback driver from 1998 to 2023. Great cars. @nd and 2rd row seat backs was a great choice especially with my grandkids in the back. I did get the OEM trailer hitch. The cargo net takes up a lot of room in the back of the Ascent.
I have a 2021 Outback with the wireless charging. I use a dongle to wirelessly use Carplay and it works well. When I use Apple Maps for navigation, which I like better than the Subaru navigation, and the iPhone is on charge, it takes the poor phone to extreme heat levels. So I agree with you about the charging.
It is handy to charge my wife’s phone as she runs hers down very low. She turns it off and uses the wireless charger and it doesn’t seem to get so hot.
Fortunately in Canada, Subaru doesn’t sell individual options with vehicles, they are part of a package. I don’t know how much this item costs but I love the other things the package offers.
Thank you for the video. Just bought a 2024 Outback 9 days ago. Trying learn about it. Blessings to you.
I agree. I picked up my 2024 XT a week ago and it came with the wireless charger. I preferred it didn’t for the lack of space and it does make my phone very hot. I don’t plan to ever use it. I also got all the other accessories here except for the trailer hitch. I may install that at some point too.
We own a 24 Touring XT and the charger is our biggest regret. I have a $10 wireless charger in my old minivan that is far superior to that $455 POS.... I
I have the '24 Crosstrek Sport that came with the wireless charger. I turned it off the day I bought it and have never used it due to my old phone not supporting wireless charging. My rep at Subaru showed me all the features in the car and specifically said he hates the charger for the very same reasons you mentioned (though my charging well is much bigger than in the OB), as well as some issues with connecting with wireless Apple CarPlay. So I just use the USB cable. No biggy.
I agree. I got one with my car, I've barely ever used it. It doesn't even fit my S21+ with Otterbox on it, so now I just have a wireless Android Auto dongle sitting in it, which is one of my favorite accessories.
I wish I had bought the Rockford Fosgate system up front, the stock system is TERRIBLE so I ended up adding that later, and I'm much happier with it. I wish I had not gotten the wireless charger and gotten the Rockford Fosgate system up front.
The factory all weather floor liners are pretty much useless for providing good coverage in snow country. That’s the same case with my 2013 Crosstrek. I bought Husky Weather Beater floor lines, which extend further up the carpet on the center hump, as well as further forward.
I’m loving my 2024 limited XT so far. And I’m so glad I didn’t choose the wireless charger add-on 🤣
I have the factory installed wireless charger. For my iPhone 15, it charges very rapidly and doesn’t overheat. My only complaint is that when the car is in Park it can be difficult to remove the phone because of how close the shifter is to the charger. Overall I love it and would order it again.
Very useful. Have me thinking about that hitch. It will cost me to do after the fact, i believe we own the same Outback, same year, same trim, I have the Onyx XT. Thank you!🙃 Your stuff is educational and useful.
Thanks! Totally worth it in my opinion
Don’t forget to buy a tempered glass infotainment screen saver!
does that help the screen at all? I was debating getting one for my 24 outback but I wasn't sure if it was gonna be worth it
@@thezindyproject Yes, infotainment screens are hugely expensive to replace. The screen protector costs $20. Several things can permanently stain the actual screen such as sun screen and oils to name a few. The screen protector not only protects against permanent stains, but scratches as well. I had mine on within 15 minutes of picking my car up at the dealer. Once installed, you can't tell it's on, just like your screen protector for your cell phone.
I enjoy your video! I didn’t know about the second net in the cargo net. So good to know! And I was feeling disappointed I didn’t have the Bluetooth CarPlay option but after this video about the heating up and bad location for the phone, I feel much more satisfied with my plug in version, BTW, I have a 21, Outback.
I’m in Australia so this comment may not be applicable in the USA.
Some years back I bought a 2018 Outback, top of the range. Missing however were front bumper sensors. I had the dealer install the Subaru genuine accessories even though they were the most expensive..
I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO DISAPPOINTED.
I was expecting them to be integrated into the eyesight system, but no such luck. No better than what would come in a corn flakes box!!
I'm in the market for a car. I've narrowed it down to Subaru or Toyota.
I'm an older widow, and im worried about making the wrong choice. Im trying to learn as much as possible, and i really enjoy these videos. Im still trying to make the right choice!!
SUBARU.
Subaru. It will keep you safe on the road.
@@bobross8569 Thank you!
@@SpicyEngineer Thank you!!
Honestly you can go wrong with either. Toyota and Subaru will carry you reliably as long as you keep up with the maintenance. Subarus are a bit cheaper. Best bet is to test drive a rav4 and then a forester (or if you want something a bit smaller corolla cross and a crosstrek)
Hi Alex, we found the charger works with or without the rubber pad in place giving a little more room for maneuverability. It's still slooow and heats the phone.
I agree with Alex the added cell phone charger heats up the battery in my cell phone to where I believe it’s being damaged. Therefore what I’ve done is I plugged the cord in in the backseat and bring it over the console and plug in my phone. Problem solvedand the cords out-of-the-way.
Totally agree, the wireless charger is not living up to my expectations. It does heat up the phone, and It does not charge as it should. The phone is difficult to remove too.
homekit/ Garage opener buttons can be programmed to turn on wireless controlled lights as well. I have one button set to turn on the shop light in my garage
Similar to the cargo net, I use a motorcycle net, hooked to the ceiling. Handy for high storage: headgear, paddles, anything for quick access.
I have a 2024 Impreza and was happy to know that I didn't get that wireless charger. There's no magnets in it so your phone could go flying if you brake hard or take off quick or something. I have the stereo without wireless CarPlay so I bought a $30 adapter on Amazon to solve that and then I bought a magnetic charger that goes into one of the cup holders. That setup works well for me and was maybe a quarter of the cost of the Subaru wireless charger.
The Subaru wireless charger is terrible! I have an Ascent so there is a more space for the phone but the phone still gets burning hot, especially if you are using wireless car play/android auto and have it on the charger. It charges so slow and creates so much heat. Subaru didn't think this one though. It needs a cooling fan built into it to try to dissipate the heat. I told the dealer about it last year right after I bought my car in November and they said they've never heard of the problem before. Glad you made this video.
I love my 2023 Outback Onyx but hate the wireless charging that came with the car. It overheats my iPhone also so I don't use it. On long trips, I will use the USB port and cable for Google Maps and Apple Car Play. My Subaru dealer just did the 30K miles service and I am pleased with my Outback and with the service my dealer here in CT does maintaining my Subaru. My wife also has a Subaru Legasy Ltd. I enjoy your videos Alex and thank you for your informative content.
I have a 2023 Crosstrek Sport. I so wish it had wireless carplay! Instead, I get 2 USB-A and no USB-C. I'm not a fan of wireless charging though. I agree with you on the all weather liners. I made sure to get those.
Also, the Wilderness, they gave me the carpet mats in the packaging but the all weather mats were installed. I upgraded to the back cargo and seat all weather as well. They were hard to install but my dealership were happy to do that for me.
Agreed! I have a larger iPhone, and yes the phone would get hot. Most importantly, when my Outback was in park, I was unable to remove my phone.
I ordered the OEM hitch (installed at the Indiana factory) on my 2025 Outback for my bike rack. The salesman told me the same OEM hitch is more expensive if installed by the dealer (I think about $50.) Cheers.
i only ever experienced the wireless charging pads in rentals. each and every one heated my phone AND so slowly they seemed useless. now i have a crosstrek. it came with the pad and i don’t imagine i’ll be using it much at all.
Love your Outback color Layout. I have a 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness with the charging pad. It’s much larger than yours but it’s pretty weak and your phone slides around so it comes off of charging. It came with the vehicle but it’s lame at best. Thanks for sharing all about the cargo net. Was not sure how it all worked! Love your videos.
I find other aftermarket mats better than the oem ones. I got husky liners. Nice high sides not floppy. Good luck raking those mats out with water amd not spilling any
I'm using a 2024 Outback as a loaner and I only ever use that space for my phone and the key fob.
Is that a kitty sticker under your hazard light button? What's that story? I have a 2024 Outback Onyx ST! I LOVE it! Thanks for all your videos! They are super informative!
Thanks. On my 4th Subaru. The cargo net was good. Also it is always better to have a trailer hitch from the manufacturer. I wish Subaru would have a process to retrofit Apple Car Play like Hyundai does, for my 2018 Subaru Forester.
Wireless charging system on my cross track wilderness is awesome. The on/off switch allows me to shut it off if I feel the phones heating up.
In addition the wireless CarPlay works perfectly. Really enjoy google maps in satellite view for my navigation system. On the 11.6 “ infotainment screen the resolution is perfect.
In 2015 we were getting a new Forester and we got a few bells and whistles on it. But they had this decked out Legacy 3.6R in the showroom, boy that's a nice car. I don't drive much so I've only got 35K miles on it. I hope I'm driving that car for many years yet. No phone charger though, that wasn't an option in those days :)
I also ordered my 22 touring...didnt get the wireless charging since my wife likes to plug in the charger and still be on the phone,,only acc I did get and like is the rain guards,mud flaps,and tow hitch.i also bought off Amazon the coin holder which replaces the fuse door...easy to install