I think part of what makes this podcast so good is that for 90% of the cards you're reviewing, I have also asked myself the same question, "Is this a good card?"
Ever since I first saw this card ive been running this has been a personal auto include for me. This card and Dress Down has especially found a home in my Master of Keys deck
Running this in Master of Keys. Also wanna note, having a simple storm count if 2 is plenty. 2U EoT to hit Sisay/Kinnan bloom tender. Hitting the T2 tymna/Najeela.
Bear in mind Kinnan does have a bunch of Boseijus, Force of Vigors, etc that can deal with the enchantment without needing to kill Kinnan and recast him (another reason to attach multiples of them)
Maybe it's a casual commander thing, but playing the card I noticed just how easy it was for people to kill off their Frog commanders if you do it wrong. This is because this typically has at least 2 commander targets and then those people just make a deal to trade. So it's not necessarily optimal to simply hit the all biggest threats. You need to consider the boardstate you're creating and what deals it encourages for your opponents to maximize effectiveness.
This happens to a lesser extent in cEDH, because its difficult to make that deal for the person in later turn order, as their will be “unlocking” someone before their turn. Not saying it won’t happen for value pieces like tymna , but giving a Magda their commander back before you get your tayam might not work well for you.
The cost is perfect, if it was 1 mana it would be incredibly busted, if it was 2 mana voidwinower would block it. At 3 mana it is the perfect answer to take kin and void at the same time
Just played against this, game was already gonezo but it def was interesting and seems like it could be nuts in the right situations and worse case its a slightly overcosted version of its effect (while being flash so not bad)
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I think part of what makes this podcast so good is that for 90% of the cards you're reviewing, I have also asked myself the same question, "Is this a good card?"
Ever since I first saw this card ive been running this has been a personal auto include for me.
This card and Dress Down has especially found a home in my Master of Keys deck
I literally had Jester's Cap flash in my head as soon as it was mentioned. Iconic card.
But were you able to guess cmc/ abilities?!?
@ThatsAGoodCard oh I didn't need to guess, I already knew. Big chase card when I started playing, and I used to rock it in Glissa the Traitor.
Think I'm sold on this. Storm just makes it so consistent for hitting the targets you need
Woo!! We got a believer!! Frogs will fall!!
Running this in Master of Keys.
Also wanna note, having a simple storm count if 2 is plenty. 2U EoT to hit Sisay/Kinnan bloom tender. Hitting the T2 tymna/Najeela.
Nice card! Love your videos!
Thanks!!
That PNW joke was perfect. Love the video keep up the good work!
Oh no you’re feeding Yah’s dad joke ego!!
Great episode and card! As a Kinnan player I hate people finding out about this. As a Talion player I love this. Thanks for the shout out!
Of course!! Hope you enjoyed the “that’s a good card?” Segment!
If it hasn't been recommended yet, I think Charitable Levy would make for an interesting episode. So much value for 2 mana enchantment.
Bear in mind Kinnan does have a bunch of Boseijus, Force of Vigors, etc that can deal with the enchantment without needing to kill Kinnan and recast him (another reason to attach multiples of them)
great point!
IDK if ya'll mentioned it but this in MoK with Serra's Sanctum is ramppppppp
MOK is new esper KING 100%
Maybe it's a casual commander thing, but playing the card I noticed just how easy it was for people to kill off their Frog commanders if you do it wrong. This is because this typically has at least 2 commander targets and then those people just make a deal to trade.
So it's not necessarily optimal to simply hit the all biggest threats. You need to consider the boardstate you're creating and what deals it encourages for your opponents to maximize effectiveness.
This happens to a lesser extent in cEDH, because its difficult to make that deal for the person in later turn order, as their will be “unlocking” someone before their turn. Not saying it won’t happen for value pieces like tymna , but giving a Magda their commander back before you get your tayam might not work well for you.
The cost is perfect, if it was 1 mana it would be incredibly busted, if it was 2 mana voidwinower would block it. At 3 mana it is the perfect answer to take kin and void at the same time
Just played against this, game was already gonezo but it def was interesting and seems like it could be nuts in the right situations and worse case its a slightly overcosted version of its effect (while being flash so not bad)
Glad you’re a downpour believer!
How many frogs is too many frogs?
Philosophers will ponder such questions for years to come.
In Too Deep is very comparable... Split second uncounterable, 2cmc... And you said you're thinking too deep right after I posted this roflllll