NEW IceRiver AL2 Lite and KS2 At Home Alephium & Kaspa ASIC Miners , ICY Boys Are Taking Over Again
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- NEW ICERIVER AL2 Alephium ALPH ASIC and KS2 at home asic miners are going to change everything yet again. Lets Talk about it and give our thoughts on it! #crypto #cryptomining #kaspa #alephium #iceriver
NHASH has The AL2 listed and beats even the iceriver direct price. NHASH Price is 1299 shipped final price, Iceriver is 1449 + duties fees because its over 800 USD.
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NHASH has it listed at 1299 shipped already and its beating even iceriver direct price of 1449 shipped in the US. Also no duties through NHASH which is even more savings as you will get hit with them in the US if you order through Iceriver direct with orders over 800 USD.
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@@miningstacker hey why no duties theough nhash mate?
@sotiriosbellos9118 the declared value , which is what essentially all the resellers do , which is why we typically buy through them instead of the manufacturer.
Shipped already :0 Let us know when it gets delivered !
@@riftgod6169 haha, they haven't shipped already , the already was in reference to it being listed already , 😂. We all know those icy boys love waiting until the last day of the shipping period so going to be a while still
@@miningstacker This is so true, with any luck sometimes if you order direct from them you will get it before the resellers do. But again thats a big maybe, and you will pay out the ying/yang in taxes as Iceriver will not change the invoiced amount..I have asked them sooooo many times, but no go lol, and it doesn't help that they include the price of shipping in the invoiced amount...man that always ticks me off lol. Also Tswift has them for 1265 shipped and Leedminer 1269 shipped. But I do recommend Nhash, I have purchased quite a bit from them over the years and they are very reliable.
We should be congratulating IR for keeping prices low. If it was Bitmain they'd be charging crazy rip off prices. IceRiver know that when we receive these miners, they ain't going to make the same rewards as when 1st advertised
Iceriver has definitely changed the game and in some cases saved some of these projects in a sense. Kaspa for example , if it was only that bitmain ks3 and there was no Iceiver would have been so centralized and would have stayed at that crazy 50k price. Same story with alph, and they arguably saved rxd from dragon balls takeover. These little "0" series Asics really helped to decentralize these networks.
100% agree. IceRiver is finally making it affordable and keeping it real. If I wasn't all in I'd be picking up these new Alephium units. I hope these or a similar unit are as cheap and efficient after I've hit my goals and sold my bags. I'm keen to mine Alephium hard through next cycle
I wouldn't be surprised if the companies are all together just gaming us. 😂
Basically what it feels like , 😂
Just going to throw out an unpopular opinion. If price appreciation is the reason for ROI on the AL2 and not actual yield then buying the coin still makes a lot more sense than buying one of these. The current projected ROI is 6.5 months at $1299. We can safely assume that will be closer to 10 months in reality if not much longer, but even at 10 months the bull run is basically coming to an end at that point. Definitely beyond the point where I would still be holding anyways. The Elephant in the room is that big bad Bitmain can throw out a better miner somewhere in the middle of all that, likely around spring and ruin the whole party. I was tempted for a second but I’m gonna sit this one out. It isn’t that this thing doesn’t make bank, it’s that I can make more bank not buying it. Now if you buy it as a space heater for winter then maybe I could see it, otherwise hard pass for me, lol.
Definitely not an unpopular opinion , 100 % makes sense to buy the coin , anything Im mining im usually also buying on dips , especially these lower marketcap coins. Think the appeal would be the hardware arbitrage opportunity if price goes up in short term. I'm going in , but just to lower the cost basis of the others , but fully knowing bitmain is likely to react aggressively here and may do something drastic which is why I'm likely buying just one and kind of waiting to see not only how bitmain reacts just the market in general. Alph for me is one that I started accruing years so hard to even buy at this current price , but will be mining it , unless we get some 2023 or lower prices. But the acceleration of these hardware releases is not sustainable , does seem like something will break if prices don't keep up , sentiment is definitely low right now.
if you are not using them to get heat and money from your free energy
you are laundering money, only logic that makes sense
only a fool would do this to earn money from the machine
but money in the bank is also worth alot
They crapped on everyone that bought a AL0. AL0 will never ROI. so much so they removed it from their site. I have a feeling the AL2 Lite will never ROI either. these things don't yield much for very long.
These hype Asics carry extreme risk , especially now with the rapid fire releases. Too early to tell how ROI plays out , if you don't think alph will appreciate in the next 8-12 months then sure , but my target is anywhere from 10-20+ per alph. so yes, this is a massive reduction , but that's the game with these "hype" Asics with immature networks. Hashrate will keep doubling and yields will be halving for quite some time. Timing and yield are key here , and basically need luck to hit it right , anyone's guess when we start pumping.
As much as I want to diversify away from only Kaspa, I find Alph miners still way overpriced. I'm rather going for a KS5 Pro and stack more Kaspa. I'll consider getting into Alph and RXD miners when prices are cut it half from where they are now.
That's probably the better play, sentiment being so low and the hashrate already being so high things may stabilize for a bit. Kas rewards are still also elevated from krc-20 which is extremely surprising also.
Think it's also way too likely bitmain responds aggressively here and lowers things further for the bigger guys , just depends on what alph does these next few months. Very risky/turbulent times.
The problem is, if you order one today 25th September, and they are not shipping until mid-late October, I dread to think how much more hash will be online by then & also if ALPH holds it's price.
That's literally the bet, but at this point it's even beating the already aggressively priced AL3 which just decimated the AL1. Essentially betting on alph price action, if it stays but then, still not a bad deal, but if uptober does start, then prices likely to go up as they just rekt the competition pretty badly here.
@@miningstacker the funny thing all the other chips cost the same..
its only the miners from kaspa and after that jumps around in price
a btc miner or a doge miner cost the same as it did 6 months ago
its funny most of these new miners you have to add magic like yeild to roi
solar wont help you
@@Hansen710 very true 💯
problem is, this or any other device will not pay off for you, so you are chasing basicaly trains
@@ProfilaktiskasLT just depends on your situation. I value my ROI times/goals based on the entirety of my farm and not just trying to ROI a single unit , so for example I can take two weeks of yield/profit from my other rigs and that pays off one Al2 and just continue to grow by essentially paying for it with all the other units that have paid themselves off. Potentially profitable miners with low power make it even more appealing as they have less overhead and allow me to continue stacking in case some of the larger rigs become unprofitable if the market goes sideways/down.
finally! KS2 Lite is a boo boo. AL2L killed AL0
It's getting stupid, there's a new ASIC every two weeks.... the big winners are the manufacturers and we miners are idiots because we have little chance of making these ASICS profitable.
It's getting to the point where something has to give , think the burnout is here.
MOST USEFUL CHANNEL! congrats for the timely alert :). crap need to buy buyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Just luck timing , was literally almost out the door , 😂
Wish I could afford the AL2...
Made some coin buys , was starting the l9 fund again, but this may put a dent in that, 😂
Got the notice of these from my reseller a few hours ago. The AL2 is intriguing, but I'm not sure I get the KS2 Lite. It's 2Th/s, which is nice, and the price is good at $470 as compared to other home miners, but it doesn't make sense when you can get a KS5 20T for $2k. Maybe if you don't have power for a big boy miner?
Agree 💯, the big units are just so cheap already , but for someone who wants to solo , or mine some of the other kheavyhash coins , could make sense , but the appeal for me is definitely the alph unit.
Hating myself for buying the zero models. The RXD's are going to be bricks before delivery and the AL0's I have will never ROI. FOMO is real...
Too early to say brotha , in 6-8 months you'll have a better idea. For now , these are just as efficient and in my opinion , nothing changes. We all knew hashrate is going to continue up , still value my alph yield at 10+ USD and going to continue stacking. Rxd's werent the greatest buy which is why I stayed away, but still do have a lot of potential if radiant goes up significantly next year.
But it's still too early to say , if cycles starts repeating here in the coming months will change things , including the prices of the hardware.
@@miningstacker for sure. Installed the PBFarmer firmware on the 2 AL0's I have on it's release day and increased a little on both of mine. Holding strong for the bull run either way. Hope there will be some good projects building on RXD to make the RX0's profitable or at least give us an option for spec mining. Been CPU mining a few coins to swap to RXD to offset the costs. Almost 2/3 paid off.
As long as there is demand for those KAS and ALPH miners, they will create new and people still buy. but this is not a good investment as today, the trains already gone and people are still chasing. there is much better miners with less volatility, like L7 L9, L7 price was same for like 2 years, and the profits are almost stays the same..
Agree with that , problem still exists in a way because of the price , kind of makes you hesitant with a current price tag of 11k when you know there are preorders for 3 months out bringing it to half. But agree , it's a much more stable/mature network , the problem is everyone gets blinded by current profitability and don't look at long term stacking potential .
Would like to see a psu-less model since built-in ones suck when they go out.
That would definitely be the most ideal . Hope it's at least easy to switch to a different PSU or the replacements are cheap
@@miningstacker agreed, warranty tickets are horrible for overseas repairs. Hope they have replacements on hand for ordering. 🤞
@@MangledRemainz yeah , so far they've been good about listing replacement parts and being fairly priced
Little pissed that I spent just under 2k on the alo boxes and now I'm spending over half that to get almost 3x the hash and not even close to making money back yet. Guess it's an addiction 😂
I'm in the same boat 😫
We are all in the same boat receive my last 2 AL0 last week now they cost 45% less.
I wondered what the hell was going on, because NHASH has been aggressively lowering their KAS prices the last couple of days.
I see what you mean by lowering your $/hash, but having 4x AL0s online for just 2 weeks is now a kick in the pants. We have a year more of this coming.
Yeah saw the price reduction the other day on the kas echo unit went down to 1299 , makes sense now. It definitely is , the bet is now on alph's price action , if the market goes up these next few months timing can still work, but if continues sideways expect more drops potentially as yield reduces, makes it real tricky.
Anybody have an ALPH WALLET suggestion for those Mining it in the USA?
Have been using the desktop wallet for quite a while , zero issues
alephium.org/#wallets
Onekey did just announce alph support and make actually release a branded one, so if don't hear anything from tangem soon may get one just for alph.
Darn it … lol now i want this on top of my al0 … still kicking myself for dragging my feet on the rx0 😂😂😂
Samesies , these damn icy boys 🥶
$700 ks2.. L O L.. they stuffed 5 KS0 Ultra chips into a goldshell type box for trolls and people are gobbling these up its genious. but its price is about $350 to high
That's basically it , not very appealing to me considering the rock bottom prices of the more efficient bitmain unit.
That is only if IR lowers the price. They have that control. I think they will ride it out till Dec
Could be , but AL3 was already trending down , and next batch al3 is officially lowered just now to under 11k from Iceriver..
2 days ago I put 2 AL0 on sale, just lower the price for a 50% loss, at least I didn't bought an bitmain.
It's up to you brotha , but I'd still be mining , if it's profitable, which it will be for quite a bit , it's still going to continue to earn that yield , and if the market pumps these next few months then even further. But to each their own brotha, I'm personally going to double down and add one to just bring the cost basis down and will be eyeing the larger units if they go down even more aggressively. Alot can change these next few months if things pump like it has in previous cycles, just something to think about.
@@miningstacker If I manage to sell them the plan is to buy the coin and if later the price stabilize buy the miner. Will keep 1 machine.
Do you think we’ll get hit the the 25% tariff if we order the AL2 Lite direct from Iceriver?
Yes , for US anything over 800 will get hit with those fees. NHASH has listed and it's even cheaper than Iceriver , it's 1299 shipped, check the pinned comment . Wherever you purchase from , definitely want to use a reseller for this one to avoid that.
It sucks we both bought AL0 :/ it only made me 20 ALPH at this time lol... my strategy would be also to buy this 1 to lower the buy costs of asics but.... is this a smart choice with a price of 0.23$/kwh tho... Only good thing is al0 has same efficiency, and 100w which is better for me.. But the AL2 is 5x al0 for 1.5 price :/ gues we never should bought the al0 for more than 400$ , very confusing, it's also only running 11 days
This is the risk with these things and have to prep for worst case scenarios. Value prop still remains , hashrate will accelerate faster , but was to be expected. Now just have to plan accordingly and decide the strategy going forward.
@@miningstacker what's best plan for me you think? just keep mining and wait till later? :P about value , i think al0 only worth 350$ now so it's just so confusing. I think buying the new miner won't be smart with my electricity rate
@@deviousme0234 for me , nothing changes at the end of the day , this unit is same efficiency, hashrate going up was always a given , and I still see alph going to potentially 10+ USD next year so that's how I view the yield . So for me , it's the same and if alph dips under a dollar , will be buying more.
@@miningstacker Thanks for ur answers, but dont u rather more AL2 then AL0, since AL0 was just to expensive, you think that AL0 can still be a better option than buying the coin in the long run for 800$?
@@deviousme0234 each individuals goals/plans and even viewpoint is going to be completely different. I do both and have done both with alph. The main advantage here is the hardware arbitrage opportunity and taking the risk of buying these units when it can make sense. Obviously here the better play would have been to wait , but we can't see the future , but it's about placing your bets where it can make sense and taking those risks. There will be a completely different view on these and what they really earned in 8-12 months from. Ke.
Long term for me , it makes sense , I'm constantly looking for more revenue streams that will remain profitable , which these will be for probably most of the bull market. In my case , I grow from within my existing Asics/hardware and I don't try and "ROI" one individual unit, I view my whole farm as my revenue stream . If I was worried about it, I can pay each unit off in a week from existing profits from the entire farm, which is how I continue to grow without putting in additional capital. The risk taking has allowed me to grow to what it is now from just rolling over the profits into continued hardware. Some work out better than others , but just continues to grow. My main appeal with these guys is the low power use, where in case the big guys become unprofitable, this allows me to unplug those guys , but continue to stack with these. This is why the al0's are appealing , why the al2's are appealing and why the DePin projects have been so appealing.
But again , this isn't for everyone , all I can attest to is my strategy of growing that literally started from a single 1660 super GPU nearly four years ago , that has slowly scaled into what this is now from taking on some of these risks.
Sigh... Just ordered the goldshell 1th alph miner last week a day before Ice River announcement. Buying These ASICs are dice rolls
It's literally been a waiting game for the price reductions and then luck on top of that. You have to literally factor in 50% price reductions with anything you buy now.
Iceriver is trolling, and I love them for it. The AL2 is a direct shot at Goldshell.
They are destroying them. It's been crazy after how bad they got killed last year from bitmain.
Now they just need to go for Jingle Mining
Jingle mining needs to fix their shipping prices , prices look appealing and then seeing a 3-400 dollar shipping is not the business. NHASH has it listed at 1299 shipped already, link in the pinned comment
They actually just cut their own AL3 to $10,900 😂
I just saw after I posted , still doesn't make sense as it's just cheaper to buy the little boxes. Wouldn't be surprised to see them lower again before it even ships.
$150 shipping to the UK 🥲
From Iceriver direct yes, check pinned comment NHASH has it 1299 shipped.