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Why This Jedi Master Was Vader’s Most Dangerous Opponent During the Temple Raid
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The Non-Canon Expert explains why the Jedi Master seen dueling Darth Vader in Revenge of the Sith named Cin Drallig was Vader's most dangerous opponent during the Jedi Temple raid, and describes the achievements and abilities that made Drallig so dangerous.
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Fun fact the actor who plaid him in Episode 3 is actually the stunt coordinator for the prequels and basically developed lightsaber combat for the prequels. So I guess it makes sense this is his role
Oh that's so neat!
*Played. Also they honoured him further by naming his character Cin Drallig, which is just his name, Nic Gillard, spelled backwards.
Absolutely!
Nick Gillard ... Cin Drallig...
Imagine how lit would it be if they had a fight scene with him in ROTS
He was also hard to beat in the Revenge of the Sith video game.
Yet he still got his ass kicked solidly by Anakin/Vader.
Yeah, and his padawan also got destroyed
A solid evidence of "never ever upset the protagonist, nor stand in his way", if Anakin/Vader wants to take your life, better let him be, at least it would be quick and less painful.
Nah he was easy af to beat. The Jedi Temple guards were the hardest and kept kicking my ass in that game
Your favorite student is no more.
High ground > Mastering all 7 forms.
Mastering all 7 forms < seething sith rage < high ground
high ground>sand>the senate>mastering all 7 forms>lukes power converters
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We can see something very interesting, Anakin was much stronger than Drawling, Obi wan including Yoda and Windu regarding a lightsaber skills even the usage of the force, but if you notice that he was a new sith, he was not got use his new increase of power and that's the reason why he was defeated by obi wan and siths learn how to use his rage to attack but not losing focus to get over the challenge, just take a look on the way as other siths handle a lightsaber duel an we will get this point, after this explanation Vader
And something else about Vader, siths learn how to use best their rage, power on different scenarios, that's something takes a little bit longer to manage in the dark side of the force
"There is still a lesson you'd yet to learn, how to become one with The Force."
-Cin Drallig
He did manage to do that
I am no longer the learner, it's your turn now!
Darth Vader
Feared by Dooku and Anakin kills him with one hand while choking a padawan with the other. Just shows how dangerous Anakin was at the time
Anakin was powerful but they intentionally made sure all the known Jedi Masters were off world dying in ambushes when they showed him marching on the temple and killing younglings. It was to show his ruthlessness not his power. Back Building from those movies though have filled in a lot of other Jedi's skills.
But vs EU Luke Anakin was a Padawan learner.
Not really Anakin would have given even Luke hell considering Caedus did
Almighty Kue in his prime, he would have handed Luke his butt on a plate
@@mikal9904 of course anakin was the chosen one and had insane power and had years of training while luke was just his son he had immense power as well but not as much of the orginal of course and less training
Grandmaster Luke would definitely beat this Anakin/ Vader. The only edge that Anakin MIGHT have is a slight advantage in Force strength, but Luke was said to have realized the full potential that his father would have if Obi-Wan didn't turn him into the Black Knight from Monty Python.
His apprentice Sara was no joke either. Fighting her you knew her master would be wicked scary
Also she was cute.
Logan the Krogan she ain't that cute after you crush her with a giant statue
@@loganthekrogan2182 that she was friend, the real tragedy is that she's not a real person
@@skynetprime82 I think the bigger tragedy is her being dropped from star wars completely, she isn't even considered legends either even tho she appeared in a comic book.
Citrusbird386 ...she isn’t even Legends? Wow... Serra Keto is Ahsoka Tano before Ahsoka Tano. She should be reintroduced, she was really interesting in the Episode 3 game.
Why was Vader’s invasion of the temple not in the movie? I’ve always hated that.
it was but not everything that happened which is what I hated
Because, it would have made episode 3 the best starwars movie out of all the trilogies, with all the action it imbued......so they cut the idea. Producer#1: "It will make the movie too good,.."
Director:"You're right, cut the films scene and put it in the vault"
It was originally a 4 hour movie but they cut it short saving palpatine from dooku ship was a whole hour of filming think how long order 66 was suppose to be
@@latronjackson4756 i hate that there is no extended Version of the films, i would watch it all. Like lord of the Rings. 4 hours of rots would be a Dream come true, i love that Movie.
@@hondo3688 right! If people can sit and watch lord of the rings for that long I'm sure thousands would have watched it I just found out the original trilogy wasn't even going to be a trilogy it was going to be 12 movies and boba fett was going to grow to be the big villain over Vader I couldn't believe it I wanted to see it so bad! Man what could have been
I knew it was about Cin "the Troll" Drallig as soon as I read the title. He's one of those niche characters that are really interesting but need to be explored more to really cement their place in the SW universe. I bet Dooku and him had some sparring matches with each other, both using Makashi for a spectacle of artful lightsaber combat.
I agree completely IO, I wanted to do "the Troll" justice with this one. :) There are so many interesting aspect too that I had to leave out, such as his "rescuing" of Padawan Serra Keto, who he had to sadly watch be cut down by Vader before his own demise. Interesting enough too, you're right about the Form II aspects. Looking at some "developed theory" from Drallig during the Clone Wars, he was actually a fan of Makashi and thought there was tons of value in Jedi being trained in what had been a pretty rejected Form up until that time. Very interesting stuff IMO. Thank you for watching IO, hope you had a great weekend!
I wonder what kind of connection Serra might have had with other notorious characters named "Keto", to be honest. Lots of story potential for both master and apprentice, if you ask me. Killed me a few times in that RotS game though, the damn girl.
where did Cin Drallig's nickname "the Troll" come from?
Thats what i thought also when I read the title.
wish I noticed your comment before i posted, you are spot on it is.
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His most dangerous opponent was fought off with one hand while choking an apprentice with the other.
The Clones made it harder for all the Jedi to fight Anakin
@@xstevenxcorex6 True, but it didn't look like the clones were there when he fought Cin and those other Jedi. You still have to give Anakin credit for fighting off the battle master with one hand while choking another at the same time.
Cin Drallig is the name of the fight instructor who played him, backwards: Nick Gillard (minus the K)
I didn't know that
Cin Drallig does appear in one episode of The Clone Wars tv series
Look at that, I had no idea.
Wow, never realized it is anagram.
"Biggest threath to Vader" ... litteraly beat him up one handed while choking another jedi
plus he had a robotic/prosthetic arm
We only saw part of the fight.
Who would win
Jedi Battlemaster teacher of thousands of students knows all forms of lightsaber combat including vaipad very experienced
Or
One edgy Boi
King Crimson one very powerful edgy boy hahahahahha
Yeah this makes no sense. The only kinda reasonable explanation to why Drallig lost to Vader is is may have already been exhausted by fighting so much before hand because of his age, but even then....he should of kicked Vader's ass.
Jon Arbuckle not really although drallig is technically the better swordsman but anakin's force power is much more powerful especially when amped up with the dark side remember a Jedi's strength flows from the force not from his lightsaber. Also anakin both forms of V serve as the perfect counter attack to any lightsaber form even vapaad
Not really Anakin has literally every category on Cin Drallig
Jon Arbuckle You underestimate anakin/vader’s power!
Cin Drallig was one of the more greater teachers in the Order. His pupils were so well trained in the art of swordsmanship, Anakin requested the 5th Fleet Security to send a team of clone assassins to aid in hunting the Master and his Padawans before the attack on the Jedi Temple.
This is gonna be good, I can sense it.. something I haven't felt since....
I hope that you enjoy it MS! Always appreciate you jumping into the comment section as well. :)
Star Wars Reading Club always appreciate the awesome, thorough work you do my friend. Always something to be learned. And a Jedi never stops learning
MAsterr Serch Stop it, get some help.
Walks away remembering that massive crap you forgot to take
I want to see a movie about Operation Knightfall
Flaymer We already saw it in ROTS lol
@@hugo-ig7kl what operation was that
@@animelvr99 it was the Jedi temple raid led by Anakin
@@hugo-ig7kl but barely
I would love to see Anakin slaughtering little fuckers
the most dangerous one was the game freezing while you are repeatedly killing everyone, causing you to lose all of the progress from the level and having to replay it, just because you wanted to level up anakin a little bit more.
Wait. So.....this guy is so amazing in all 7 forms, and yet Anakin was able to stop him while being attacked by two other Jedi at the same time? But he couldn't best Obi Wan???? Uh......something's wrong here. :P
clarity2199 obi wan had PERFECTED Soresu, and near the end of the battle, Anakin let his rage get the best of him and left him open for attack
He was also a lot less powerful than his knightfall self who is considered by many in some communities to be Vader's true prime
397 Llederson Again, not true.
Thing is, Anakin was a prodigy with a lightsaber, and more powerful than cin drallig in the force, while obi wan, although not as powerful, perfected form 3 as another commenter pointed out, but also had the advantage of sparring with Anakin his whole life, so obi wan knows exactly how Anakin fights to a T, combined with his perfection of form 3 would make it very difficult for Anakin to defeat him, whereas a less skilled and less powerful Jedi would have a better chance at beating obi wan, because obi wan wouldn't be used to how that Jedi fights, and could only rely on his knowledge of form 3.
No almost anyone else who have the chance to fight Obi-wan who is not holding back would last about as much as a magnaguard before their head roles on the floor
Curious fact:
Cin Drallig was interpreted in Episode III by Nick Gillard, the main technical lightsaber choreographer and stunt coordinator for the original and prequel triology of Star Wars, so it makes a lot of sense.
Cin Drallig is Nick Gillard spelled backwards, just without the K.
Even Cin Drallig's legendary battlemaster skills were no match for the invincibility of Anakin's plot armor.
In rots game even mace windus power stood no chance against anakins focused passion( though i thnk he was weakened by the sidious fight both physically and emotioanally by his betrayal)
Comment section is full of idiots who doesnt realize how powerful Anakin was, by knightfall
What people dont realize is that the padiwans actually hindered him. If you ever read Darth maul books he used the same strategy to hinder the more experience jedi when he was attacked my multiple jedi. Using the weaker jedi to prevent the stronger jedi from making certain strikes.
You can see Vader holding the padawan with one hand blocking his whole right side preventing the master from using certain strikes.
This dual should have been in the film!
Considering Anakin cut him down while dealing with two Padawan's as well he cannot have been that impressive.
AKlover actually the padawans probably hindered his ability to fight anakin
AKlover -- Watch the ROTS tape of the fight. Do you see him kill Drallig? Nope. You see him *hold* Drallig off with his freaking metal arm which was stronger and faster than two arms.
Anakin nearly lost the fight that ensued afterwards.
Yeah he is strong but compared to other battlemasters he hasn’t done anything that impressive.
He came from an era with a distinct lack of blade wielding opponents also IRL you get better by training with equals or superiors..........not by being the trainer. If anything being the trainer diminishes you because you are seldom pushed much less tested.
AKlover -- Many skilled Jedi had a disadvantage when it came to saber-wielding opponents, but not Drallig. Drallig was the Battlemaster of the Order.. he possessed tremendous and nearly unparalleled mastery in all 7 forms of lightsaber combat, and even _Jar'Kai,_ and mastered every single stance within these said forms, even the most obscure and outdated, and mastered every single style and method and usage of each stance and form, for both blaster-deflection and blade-to-blade combat. Drallig was also the unrivaled master of Form 6, _Niman,_ which was his least favorite form.
Drallig was one of the few Jedi that Dooku actually respected. In fact, Dooku viewed Drallig as an equal; a challenge, a worthy opponent. Also, Dooku had such esteem of Drallig's abilities, that he instructed General Grievous to *never* engage Drallig under *any* circumstances whatsoever, for Drallig was far superior and would swiftly best him.
It has also been speculated that if Drallig was given a younger body coupled with his prime knowledge and skill, he would be able to contend with Yoda, as Windu and Dooku did.
Rest assured, had Drallig not been considerably fatigued and elderly, he would have defeated Anakin with ease.
He beat him with one hand while choking the other girl out. Yea he might’ve been a good with the lightsaber but to get jumped by 3 guys and still lose shows how strong anakin was. The dark side makes you stronger but you get cocky and full of yourself, thats why anakin lost he would’ve beat obi wan if he never did that foolish jump.
Yes and no. Anakin lost because the Force willed it so. The Force was with Obi wan, so Obi wan would win no matter what. Just like how he beat vader so many years later in the kenobi series. As long as you are one with the Force, you will never lose.
@@christianruvalcaba7788 No, he lost because he was impulsive. Being one with the force have nothing to do with that.
Record holder for shortest screen time right here. Literally, blink and you will miss him.
Still anakin toyed him while choking his padawan and beheaded the other jedi knight in the same room..
Fun fact: the actor who plays him was the stunt and fight coordinator for the prequel films, who actually developed the method of lightsaber combat used by the actors in the prequels, hence his character’s skill. Also his name, Cin Drallig, is just the guy’s name, Nic Gillard, spelled backwards.
I love that he was the biggest threat yet in the hologram in ep 3 Vader is taking him on with one hand while his other hand is choking out one of the padawans, really shows how powerful he was
It was plot induced stupidity after they assigned that random hologram Jedi a name and a duty lol. They could tell us the girl Anakin choked was the Temple's chief sorcerer or whatever idk
So dooku really was the best.
Talon Higgins yes
In the revenge of the sith game we end up fighting his apprentice and him in one mission, which is my personal favorite part of the game.
The number of times I’ve been finished by Master Drallig in the Episode 3 game shows his strength in both the Force and lightsaber combat.
I really wish we got to see this fight instead of a real brief Glimpse at it cuz it was so fun to fight him in the PlayStation 2 game.
That game in general was very well made and hilariously fun.
I wish we got to see more of Cin Drallig in the Clone Wars series.... and I wish we could have seen him duel Dooku...
Kightfall was the best moment in games revenge of the sith (ps2) the true battlefront 2 (ps2)
LordToxicis damn right I remembered that and I still have the game both of it😎
“Most dangerous” takes the guy one handed
Cin Drallig needs to be included in a lot more Comics, series and games. He literally appeared in Episode 3, the Episode 3 Game and 1 scene in The Clone Wars, and a few comics.
Bad memories of ROS video game :3
He was easy to beat unlike the Temple guards who would gang up on you and whoop your ass
PTSD
He was a bitch to take down.
@@ShadowDeist yup even more than mace
That game was really easy
But could Battlemaster Cin Drallig defeat Battlemaster Vodo-Siossk Bask, master of the greatest Fallen Knight, Exar Kun ?
topic the bendew and seem to teleport before thawn can shot him, what if luke can do the same and didnt die at the end of last jedi,thats why his hand and and things disappeared and didnt fall to the ground
Neil Bonness I definitly think that was Luke becoming one with the force as it is awfully similar to Obi-Wan in A New Hope
I like that you give us the answer as to why and explain in further detail unlike a lot youtubers that give details all throughout the video and the answer at the very end as bait sort of
You have got such a pleasing voice! You could make a living in narrating movies or tv shows straight up!
Well it’s a good thing for Anakin that he didn’t have the high ground
I have to say with just this kill it proves Anakin was at his absolute prime in Knightfall not Mustafar or post suit the fact that Anakin bested this guy shows you how insane he was
397 Llederson Vader could have been the most powerful entity in star wars lore. I wish we could see that
Not really, compared to Vader Anakin wasn't as proficient in his force abilities. Due to the amounts of stamina Vader's movements consumed he relied a lot more on the force than he did when he was a jedi. Anakin was more finesse, acrobatic, and probably quicker, but Vader developed a light saber form all on his own combining many forms into it. He relied far more on less stamina consuming strikes, and with every strike there was purpose. He was calculated, had greater reach than most, and even more important is the amount of power between each of his attacks. Vader was stronger than Anakin period.
@@gabrielcarrasco8414 1. Anakin stooped a gigantic storm once with the Force nothing in Vader's arsenal is stopping that
2. That is not true Vader had even more stamina then he was as Anakin
3. So did Cin Drallig, so did General Grievous, so did the grand inquisitor, so did Revan and so many more yet all of them are confirmed to be weaker than Anakin was also Anakin is on the same strength level and is faster than anyone Vader ever fought by at least two times
4. Ok still not stopping
5. Anakin's strength outclassed everyone of the Jedi in the order and outranked General freaking Grievous
6. All those things I mentioned were a weaker Anakin the Anakin I am talking about in the post above is multiple times stronger than the feats I mentioned and Palpatine said that Anakin was the second strongest Sith in history at that point
@@gabrielcarrasco8414 Lol. no, just stop. Vader couldn't beat a old and rusty Obi wan, let alone beings like Mace windu or Yoda. Knighfall Anakin was strong enough to beat Yoda and Mace windu. He was so strong that if he wanted to, he could also kill Palpatine. The only reason why Obi wan bested him was because the Force was with him.
Darth Vader's March on the Jedi Temple. 😍😍😍 Congratulations, SWRC! I have a whole new appreciation for Cin Drallig, who was formerly kind of a secondary (and somewhat forgettable) Jedi to me. 👍👍👍 I really wish they would just make a comic or novel of some of these lesser known Jedi. That would be awesome! Great video! Thanks for sharing and have a great day! 😊
Cin Drallig and Luminara Unduli are my favs.
Yooo we need the attack on the jedi temple movie 👀
Anakin wrecks Jedi temple and Jedi battle master.
Obi-wan wrecks Anakin.
I wish there were more details on the lightsaber battle itself. Maybe someone should make a fan animation of it.
Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?
Abeloth VS The Sun Crusher
What or who would win?
wish we would all get to see that match.
Akillies 0280 revenge of the Sith game is the best you'll see.
Annakin bare handed strangling a Jedi while battling Drolig daaaaamn
Wow what a coincidence that the only Jedi we see him kill on the recordings just so happens to be an super uber ultra badass Jedi.
Why didnt anakins blue lightsabre crystal not turn red when he became vader and killed jedi and younglings? Also why didnt Shaak ti come out and fight vader?
08aoc because you see, the whole idea of bleeding a crystal I'd a stupid Disney invention that heavily conflicts what used to be canon. When the movies were made bleeding a crystal wasn't a thing and crystals were found. Red crystals were made synthetically and were stronger but less balanced. In legends Luke had a short red shoto saber and a long green one to fight the dark jedi lumiya. The bleeding is a conflicting and imo stupid Disney adventure.
Kyber crystal bleeding is a made up function by Disney that has no place in real Star Wars lore. The way Legends handles it is vastly superior.
4:07 No duel between Anakin and Grievous was a HUGE mistake. Also, didn't Windu have a brief duel with Grievous, in which he struggled against the cyborg?
We should have seen Vader slaughter those Jedi.
Yeah but Anakin is stronger and faster than Mace not to mention rivaled him as a duelist
397 Llederson -- That is never mentioned. Windu has always been more powerful.
When Mace drops a dome with nothing but a scream or drops a underwater building or overpowers Yoda's best student even while holding back than we talk Mace being stronger even the choreographer of the prequels said Anakin in dueling was a solid 9 while Mace was 8 near 9
397 Llederson -- Mace destroyed a separatist superweapon single-handedly, and annihilated hundreds of B2 Super Battle Droids with the Force and with his fists on Dantooine.
If by "overpowers Yoda's best student", you are referring to Anakin's duel with Count Dooku, then you are wrong. Anakin won that duel not by skill, but by 5 huge advantages.
1. Dooku was *the* master of Form 2, _Makashi._ Anakin was a master of Form 5-B, _Djem So,_ which was the superior form to _Makashi._ Form 2 had one weakness, and that was its inability to generate momentum in a fight, making it exceptionally vulnerable to more aggressive forms, like Anakin's.
2. Dooku practiced the art of _Dun Mach,_ which was essentially in-battle mockery, where the practitioner makes fun of the enemy, taunting them, pointing out insecurities, weakening their opponent's resolve, causing them to slip up. While this would have worked on many a Jedi, it merely enraged the unstable Anakin, causing Anakin to tap into his limitless Force Potential, utilizing his Dark Side Energy, giving Anakin a *tremendous* power amp, and bringing his Force Augmentation to Dooku's level, and far above.
3. Anakin had a metal arm, which was extremely overpowered. It gave him superhuman strength and speed, and was considerably more dexterous and maneuverable than two hands combined. This is evident as throughout the fight, we see Anakin shove Dooku backwards when they lock blades, as well as forcibly grabbing Dooku's arms and pushing them down. This is backed up by the Star Wars Visual Encyclopedia, which states pretty much what I just did.
4. After being taunted and tapping into his dark side energy, Anakin prepared to attack, and assumed the opening stance of Form 5-A, _Shien,_ which was weak in 1 on 1 combat. Seeing this, Dooku immediately predicted the attack Anakin would use, and formulated a counter-sequence in his mind. However, when Anakin attacked, he did not use _Shien,_ he used _Djem So,_ catching Dooku off-guard, and surprising him. Dooku was unable to recover in time, and was disarmed.
5. Sidious instructed Dooku to *hold back* during the fight. Had he gone all out, Anakin and Obi-Wan would have been killed in the first few minutes. Even when holding back, Dooku was easily holding off both Anakin *and* Obi-Wan. However, in the final few seconds of the fight, when Dooku was tricked by Anakin's stance, Dooku swiftly used all his skill in an attempt to regroup, but by then it was too late, and he was defeated.
Also, only two Jedi were known to rival Yoda in a fight; Count Dooku and Mace Windu. Not Anakin. Anakin and Windu sparred many times, with Windu always winning, toying around with Anakin and correcting various mistakes and errors Anakin made.
Not to mention, Windu defeated Sidious, who was way better than Anakin. Heck, Sidious killed Agen Kolar and Kit Fisto, who were more skilled than Vader ever would be, in mere seconds.
Windu outdueled Sidious fair and square. (Confirmed and established by George Lucas multiple times)
Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to exist. (Confirmed and established by George Lucas)
Anakin was at his peak in ROTS as Vader, a Sith, meaning he was not as powerful as Sidious. (Confirmed by George Lucas)
Therefore, Mace Windu is more powerful than Anakin Skywalker. (Logical following)
Johann Guchte Anakin didn't smash through Dooku's blade to beat him, he actually managed to do that with a finesse move. And many of George Lucas quotes shouldn't be taken into consideration anymore, not just because he's not in charge anymore, but because TCW, which he oversaw, showed Dooku struggling to fight Anakin with each encounter.
That being said, I do agree with the established fact that Sidious is the most poweful Sith to ever exist.
The ROTS novel explains that fighting Obi Wan was exhausting enough, making it even more difficult to contend with Anakin. So no, Dooku would not have been able to kill them easily within minutes.
I do think that Windu would win in a "fair fight" (as in no obstacles, no one interfering etc) against Anakin. I believe even Grievous would be able to defeat Anakin.
Fun fact: Cin Drallig spelled backwards is Nick Gillard (the actor/stunt coordinator) just without the k.
I always wait to hear the "if not for me"-part^^. Its funny.
I'm honestly tired with having all this random Jedi coming out of nowhere and surviving Order 66, we have more than enough survivors.
Melese Getahun *Strongly disagree*
Melese Getahun They should just show Mace surviving.That's all.
Uto Resa 519 That's all I want honestly
Dude, there was 2 Jedi Purges afterward. The Jedi Purge and the Great Jedi Purge. Many of the deaths of Jedi during this time were done in person by Darth Vader, Bounty Hunters, and Inquisitors.
But he died at the temple and he's not new lol
Which comic series is the comic from that you showed at the 5 min mark?
Great question! I just double checked and I believe that image of Drallig is from Issue #8 in the Kanan comic series, which is Canon. :)
Thanks for the answer!
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I really feel in the prequels Anakins skill as a Jedi was not shown enough, if you asked any newcomer they would just see him as some regular old joe
I really really wish we could have gotten a scene in revenge of the sith where we actually see operation knightfall and we watch Anakin fight Sin
It is crazy because the episode 3 video game contained a fight between Anakin and Cin.
Trevor Rossilli that fight between Cin and Anakin was the point where you realised just how evil Anakin had become.
@@CaptainCoolzCT- oh yes absolutely and if you play the revenge of the sith video game you would know just how intense operation knightfall was hell you can probably make an entire Star wars movie just about the Jedi Temple raid I would really love to see that if George Lucas comes back to do Star wars I hope he makes another Star wars prequel will we get to see operation knightfall.
Ancap Otaku my favourite level in the game is the temple level where you beat the Jedi as Anakin, Closely followed by The Cavalry Has Arrived, where Obi-Wan's Clone Troopers arrive to help him defeat the Droid army on Utapau. We absolutely need to see more of Knightfall.
@@CaptainCoolzCT- well it's one of the most dark yet possibly important things in the entire franchise outside of the fight between Anakin and obi wan. It's the moments that changed the entire fate of the Star wars Galaxy forever.
I know this is about the battlemaster who’s name i can’t write, but this video made me realize how underappriciated anakin’s skills are. I mean he beat dooku, who even sidious was afraid of, he beat the battlemaster, who, stated by dooku, could beat grevious, and yet people say he couldn’t beat yoda or mace windu, despite the fact that he defeated two people who can go toe toe with the metioned jedi. Wtf?
Yes anakin was a very good duelist and he did beat dralling but dralling was old and did not seem to be as strong in the force as either yoda or windu. There is also the fact that we know anakin could not kill sidious while windu was able to gain an upper hand and yoda was able to fight him to a draw that was only brocken by sidious use of the force. And while dralling was a batlemaster he was not really that strong in the force, if he was im sure he would have been placed in the jedi council over other member such as kit fisto, kolar or saesee tiin which where all less capable duelist yet council members.
Anakin can give Sidious a fight though while Mace needs Vaapad to do that
frking100 you’ve never seen Cin Drallig's Kai Bomb Force move I guess? Or the Episode 3 game in general. Drallig uses the force to fuel his BASIC ATTACKS. He was very powerful in the force. Possibly one of the Jedi with the highest midichlorian count in the Order at that time.
Let’s be real here. Jedi knight anakin is damn near unstoppable and obi wan got lucky with his soresu form mastery of defense+ the high ground.
true true
While skilled master, he overwhelmed on several factors, 1 direct battlefield experience, which Vader had, a lot, 2 the clone army backing him up, 3 the death of so many other Jedi felt with the Force, 4 the Dark Side radiating off Vader,
His name spell backwards is his real name
First, love your vids
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Can you explain on why the high ground won against Anakin
Hey Jotaro Kujo, thank you for watching. If I am remembering correctly, I believe I did a video entitled: "Does the High Ground Really Matter in Jedi Lightsaber Technique", which does address why the high ground helped Obi-Wan and hurt Anakin from an in-universe POV. Also, I believe I did a video called: "How Obi-Wan Defeated Darth Vader on Mustafar" which also touches on some of the important aspects of the duel. Hope you enjoyed the video and thank you again for the support!
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Cause it does matter in actual combat also anakin's emotions were not focused
It was the exact move and scenario Obi Wan used to defeat Maul. Obi Wan knew exactly what Anakin would have to do to try it. Its why he literally tells Anakin "don't try it" in RoS. In addition Obi Wan was a master of form 3 which like aikido seeks to defend until the exact perfect position or moment to finish it.
Obi Wan was a master at reverse engineering opponents capabilities given time and study. This can be seen in his last duel with Maul in Rebels. Maul attempts to use the same lightsaber hilt/handle strike to the face that killed Qui Gon. A high strike to the face with the lightsaber handle followed by a low thrust. Obi Wan witnessed this and has prepared the perfect counter defense and strike. He finishes Maul instantly.
Obi Wan knows from previous experience exactly what to defend if someone would try and take the same leaping maneuver he did to Maul in their first fight. He's telling Anakin essentially, I know exactly what you're going to do. Ive done it before. Ive deconstructed that attack and reconstructed a defense to it. Don't try it.
Thats why that particular high ground mattered. Obi Wan's mastery of Form 3 allowed him to defend until he maneuvered himself into the exact position he knew he had the perfect defense for. He had Anakin in checkmate and he warned Anakin about it.
This guy was a real pain of a boss in the videogame. Well met.
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It feels like a waste. In general they came up with a lot of very interesting and powerful Jedi and their deaths feel forced due to the fact that the original saga was made way before they thought of all of these characters. As much as i love the original trillogy i really want a series that focuses on many different jedi/sith on a far away timeline.
That’s plot armor for you.
i don´t understand the logic of star wars how a lightsaber sword for intructor who knows even the vapad can be deafeated by anakin who only knows one form? and he has more experience as anakin. ?
greecostyler overspecialization can leave you without any strengths. He favored makashi though he incorporated other forms into his style, and one of the weaknesses of makashi is powerful strikes. Plus Anakin was well versed in Ataru and Niman and was a master of Djem So
Anakin knew lots of forms. Not just one.
greecostyler I agree with you. I mean you have the story with him being chosen blah blah, but how in the heck could he defeat what is essentially the 3rd or 4th greatest lightsaber master in the republic who also had the help of 2 other Jedi. True they were padowans but still one of the best with two learning should be enough to stop one angry confused Jedi Knight (not master) turned sith.
Christopher DiCesare he did defeat dooku, who was said to rival dooku and Yoda in saber combat
Vader is essentially here to be at his absolute strongest Mustafar Anakin and suit Vader are not stronger than this version of Anakin/Vader especially since he was not conflicted but motivated to go all out
Has a reason ever been given as to why Battlemaster Cin Drallig was called "The Troll"?
So it’s more like yoga vs Anikan basically.
If Shaak hadn't gotten caught off guard, Vader may well have died in the raid.
Just imagine her and Cin double teaming Anakin without clone backup he certainly would have died.
Not really in the Force Unleashed she was scared of fighting against Anakin so she ran away knowing she would be screwed
No Legends wise she fled because she was actually helping as many younglings escape the onslaught of the Jedi Temple. If she and Cin teamed up they probably could have killed Vader. But, the fact was the Jedi Temple was overrun by Clone Troopers even she would have fallen eventually at their hands.
No it's specifically stated that she was afraid of Vader in the FU
Really? I dont remmeber her stating any lines indicating saying she was afraid of Vader. All i remember is that she did not want Marris to fight with her.
Drallig was more powerful than Vader. He only lost because he was fatigued from killing countless clones, and because he was elderly.
Exactly....circumstances of combat. Those who take advantage of the circumstances and strike when it favors them win the fight. Anakin was more powerful than Obi-Wan in certain aspects...but Obi Wan used the high ground and superior timing and defense to his advantage...and then turned the potentially superior opponent into shredded meat. Against Drallig Anakin used surprise attack, confusion and other factors to beat a superior opponent...but remember Anakin was no padawan but a hardened very skilled knight who rivaled masters...so no matter how good Drallig is...all it takes is the right moment and he's done. As in all combat. Only fanboys and children with their comic book style Superman vs Goku arguments don't get that. The jedi, the most powerful beings in the universe...were gunned down by mere clones afterall...due to clones taking advantage of the circumstances in order to win the fight. Same thing was done here by Vader v Drallig, nothing more. For all their skill and super abilities...they aren't omnipotent or invulnerable...and for that they can be defeated...under the right circumstances...by an opponent that takes an advantage of those circumstances. That's how Anakin....and a platoon of elite troopers took the temple. Not shocking really...Anakin's skill had already been proven and honed since he was a young teenager and even more so by a several years long war. This was the equivalent of an elite military squad attacking a school of cadets who among them are a few former elite level combatant teachers that have been sitting around just training others but not experiencing real combat and are past their prime. Again, not shocking...but I do wish we would have gotten the chance to see this scene in all it's glory.
Elevating Vibration -- Ah yes but a victory by circumstance is not a true victory, especially when the victor is not skilled enough to defeat his opponent when the odds are even. And that is why we "fanboys and children" raise such an issue with such fights. They are not true displays of superiority, and should not be regarded as such.
Daniel Smith -- Not a true victory.
Johann Guchte now come on, do you really think that drallig could kill Vader? Vader fucking toyed and killed him because he was outclassing drallig immensely
Cin Drallig was not more powerful than Vader. Vader wasn't even fighting with all his power and still killed Cin Drallig. Cin Drallig would still lose in his prime. It would be bullshit if someone like Cin Drallig was more powerful than Vader.
You should do an expose on Kyle Katarn and what made him such a great and experienced Battlemaster under Luke Skywalkers Order.
From his first duels with Jerec and his 7 Dark Jedi to his near-fatal clash with Darth Caedus. A most worthy addition to the ranks, I think Cin Drallig would've had a tough time besting Katarn even at his peak.
So there we have it - excelent lightsaber duel that we never saw on the screen. It is good we used that screen time for more important things...like talking about sand, feelings between Anakin and Padme that nobody believed anyway and stuff...
The Jedi whose death was most important to Sidious in sending Vader to attack the temple was Anakin Skywalker.
I agree. The emperor finally chose to cast anakin aside for his new apprentice darth vader and so he did.
Drallig was a extremely accomplished lightsaber wielder. He was also a very respected Jedi in the Jedi Order. It's no surprise that Drallig was Darth Vader's final and most formidable opponent during the Attack on the Jedi Temple. I think along with Yoda, Ashoka, Obi Wan, and the other few other Jedi, he could have survived and cemented his legacy even further. But, I believe that if he did survive he would almost certainly be killed during the Jedi Purge, since he was one of the most accomplished of all Jedi. I wish they did expand on Cin Drallig, cause he deserves way more then what he already has
great stuff, thanks, & . . for becoming the new master~~
I wish one day we could see a full duel between anakin vs cin
Alot of people say hes weak just dont forget hes unbalanced like all the other strong jedi that can sense thier friends being murdered throughout the galaxy
Considering the fact that both Cin Dralig (in the RotS game) and Shaak Ti (in the RotS Novelization) came close to outright killing Anakin, and Sera Keto (Dralig's apprentice) gave him a hellova fight, imagine if they'd tag-teamed him?
Obi Wan: “Hold my beer”
Plot Armor is a pathway to many abilities many would consider bullshit
Everybody has skills that are unparalleled in SW... I know only the elite of the order were at the Temple at any time, but still, everybody can't be the best. I wish there were fewer "greatest duelists of his/her style" in the SW mythos.
Timothy Magnussen True, I mean Windu, Drallig and Dooku are all the greatest swordsmen
Ya know I'd like for there to be a comic based in a alternate reality where Palpatine's plan to exterminate the Jedi failed and he was defeated before he could establish his empire.
"Welcome... to your destruction!"
If he was so potent it makes me wonder why he wasn't selected as part of the assualt party to confront and arrest Darth Sidious. Might things have gone differently if he did?
Because mace sensed he was conflicted.
@@davidbock6276 I was talking about cin drellig not anakin
Who is the blue guy with red eyes?
Most underrated Jedi ever!
It's a pity we didn't get to see more of Operation Knightfall in the movie. All we had of Anakin's duel with Cin Dralic was just 3 seconds worth of hologram footage. They probably did shoot an extended fight but chose to cut out most of it.
If only there's an extended version of RotS to show more of the Jedi Temple raid!
Anakin Skywalker was "the most dominant and gifted saber combatant of all" , you can see that clear as day as he whipped on the battlemaster of the Jedi order with one hand literally behind his back. Or holding onto another victim anyway. What a beast.
He was a good opponent.
Almost as powerful as mace windu whom anakin barely beat.
Simple. He was played by the director of choreography for the prequels.
I wish that they'd animate/show/make a game with the full assault with all of the temple guardians and actual duels etc.
They did in the Revenge of The Sith game
Anakin is born from the force itself without a father. Has higher percentage of midiclorial in his blood than any Jedi in history.
He probably didn't even need a light saber.
Just his raw force ability without emotional restrain would be able to crush his opponent to bits.
If he achieved his full potential, yes. But he didn't. His mind and control was very weak. Only thru extreme emotions could he barely tap into his unrivaled power.