I thought that the MtG community was hyperhyped by best set ever MH2, but I looked away for a couple of days and now we are venturing into dungeons? Oh my, keeping up with the pace is becoming so hard ...
@@MasterQuestMaster It's virtual card advantage because while you're not actually getting a card (well unless the ETB is a draw but then it isn't virtual anymore), you are still getting the *effects* of a card on top of those of ephemerate.
Reconnaissance lets you attack without worrying about Nadaar dying. It also combos really well with tap abilities on creatures. Flavor win for "running reconnaissance on the dungeon."
Ashnod's Alter + Gemstone Array basically make a budget Phyrexian Alter. On another note, Gemstone Array can also filter the infinite colorless mana from the Basalt Monolith + Rights of Brightearth combo. If you can flicker, bounce, or reanimate artifacts consistently then Archeomancers Map would be good for grabbing all your lands. That or Kor Cartographer; Knight of the White Orchid can do something similar until you catch up on lands. Planar Rebirth if you discard those lands.
Having 'completed a dungeon" seems a lot like gaining 'the cities blessing". It would be cool if Nadaar's second ability was for each dungeon you've completed.
Wow Might have to put this in my yannik/nikara bounce tribal, +1/+1 counters deck I'm already running all the hunter effects I could find since I built it as an atla palani deck What I lost in cheating creatures and changeling berserker I gained in extra sac and reanimate+drain effects
Another loop that gets around needing a Phyrexian Altar (albeit more cards and harder to set up): Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle + Lotus Petal + Pearl Medallion + Oketra's Monument + Any sacrifice outlet = Nadaar only costs 1 White which we get from the Lotus Petal And another creature to go alongside the Soul Sisters would be Suture Priest, which also burns enemies for playing creatures
OMG. I didn't realize you can break dungeons. This is... amusing. You might also want to include Teshar to have an incidental chance of bringing back from the dead both Nadaar and the gargoyle (which also triggers Teshar).
They're just always available and are put into the command zone when entered. But any can be used (one at a time) if you take the action of venturing into the dungeon.
I don't follow the loop. It seems some of the conditions for looping are not being met. Specifically, summoning conditions. Can you demonstrate it? Thanks!
Mitch, wait til you see the mythic green planeswalker ellywick. Cause if "white can do it.. lets see what green can do with it better" ~Probably someone at WOTC
as a planes walker she couldn't infinate like this but what she could do is come in set up to ult then you run the combo next to her and ult to get an insaneEmblan that gives all your creatures +6/+6 Haste and trample.
So... This combo is basically farming the same dungeon over and over to stomp a DM's campaign. I dig that. Also because it's both a Dragon and a Knight, Nadaar is a good fit in a Sylvia Brightspear/Khorvath Brightflame EDH deck, so it gets flying, haste and double strike once both commanders are in play. I don't know how terrifying this actually is, though.
We've got quite the spectrum here. Either dungeons suck, because it unlikely that you'll be able to build a commander deck to make good use/exploit them (if you can't get through them fast enough) or you just combo win with dungeons...sigh. What's WOTC doing?
Question though?: Didn't they say that when you finish a dungeon it goes to Exile? So wouldn't that mean that for you to go infinite you would have to own about 200+ copies of the physical dungeon card?
@@Viktxr I know its outside of the deck. I believe (could be wrong about this) they said it goes in the Commander zone. But I know they DID say it exiles itself when completed. So just curious if you need the permanent card. Because I doubt you can just start the game saying, "Im playing X dungeon" and that its a token.
@@jchao007 they start exiled so exile doesn’t mean you can’t use it. Also they specifically said you can just go back in the same dungeon right after finishing it.
Had it been confirmed we can go over and over again over on the dungeons? It wasn't clear on the other video, cuz if it is, this could be interesting for etb decks such as roon and braggo
Yeah he said once the dungeon is completed you can enter that completed dungeon again, I remember because once he said it I thought that seemed pretty exploitable lol
Excuse me! I made a Dr. Horrible reference in the comment section of that video and you didn't see it, so it seems. My Eyes burn with contempt. I shall wake up to a Brand New Day and find that my faith in you is Slipping. jk, love ya mate.
In responce to to [insert creature name with abiltiy to return your commander to play from exile] I cast Disallow. probably never happen who puts disallow in there Commander deck and cards like it. but still can happen or could be sublimed epiphanyd. so do watch out for these when running a deck that exiles your commander,
They really should've made each dungeon doable once, now every card that has venture is a combo piece that can win any game. If there is 10 of these per colour there's 50 new combo pieces for the same combo... -_-
So now my sexy foil Tale's End will finally get into my decks?!?! LMAO, yeah Blue players, once again, feel safe while the rest shudder with fear. Thanks WotC, my favorite troll-ass control decks needed more people to feel salty when I play them, and now I can act like I have no choice. Classic!
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[Mitch, questioning]: Any other Dr. Horrible fans out there?
[Me, raising hand in the back]: Ooh, ooh, ooh!
[Mitch]: Heck yes!
Doctor Horrible has a PHD in horribleness
Yes yes yes
Same!
I absolutely adore Dr. Horrible Sing a Long Blog!
I thought that the MtG community was hyperhyped by best set ever MH2, but I looked away for a couple of days and now we are venturing into dungeons? Oh my, keeping up with the pace is becoming so hard ...
If it weren't for the price it would be the best set ever
@@Demonologist013 agreeable 🥲😂
That was fast, jeez, it's been 5 minutes.
Its the hypercapitalism
First time?
Mitch: I am speed
If only Mitch would do a video explaining the dungeon mechanic. That would be worth the watch.
The treasure you make from the dungeon can be used with Words of Worship to prevent the draw so you can still truly infinite on a budget.
Does this count as white card advantage/selection?
Technically ephemerate is virtual card advantage, assuming you blink a creature with an ETB
@@God-ch8lq and that Etb gives you card advantage.
@@MasterQuestMaster It's virtual card advantage because while you're not actually getting a card (well unless the ETB is a draw but then it isn't virtual anymore), you are still getting the *effects* of a card on top of those of ephemerate.
Yes since if your playing dungeons you get 3 extra cards over everyone else.
Reconnaissance lets you attack without worrying about Nadaar dying. It also combos really well with tap abilities on creatures. Flavor win for "running reconnaissance on the dungeon."
Not going to lie heard you say Dragon Knight and my mind thought Dragonite and had a good long pause thinking about running Dragonite as a commander.
i wonder what a dragonite card would look like, and what colors it would be…
I did this exact thing. Fml
@@sewykik5004 Red at least, since he's a dragon. Maybe white because he's also flying type?
I feel like Korvold is going to really like the Tomb of Annihilation.
Ashnod's Alter + Gemstone Array basically make a budget Phyrexian Alter.
On another note, Gemstone Array can also filter the infinite colorless mana from the Basalt Monolith + Rights of Brightearth combo.
If you can flicker, bounce, or reanimate artifacts consistently then Archeomancers Map would be good for grabbing all your lands. That or Kor Cartographer; Knight of the White Orchid can do something similar until you catch up on lands. Planar Rebirth if you discard those lands.
Dang people already finding ways to abuse dungeons
Having 'completed a dungeon" seems a lot like gaining 'the cities blessing". It would be cool if Nadaar's second ability was for each dungeon you've completed.
Ellywick Tumblestrum!
I had forgotten about Dr. Horrible but you have brought back a flood of memories. Thank you for that
thank you eddie! also a dragon(born) knight is a creature i never new i needed as a card
It gets both bonuses from khorvath *and* sylvia
You're welcome!
My Tocatli Honor Guard and Hushbringer in my Elisha deck are laughing right now.
I’m in shock 🤯🤯🤯 always wanted a mono white deck and this one speaks to me ❤️❤️❤️
The flavor is funny. 3 commanders are leading armies, one is in a dungeon, awakening an aborted fetus god.
Some Binding of Isaac shit
@@mslabo102s2 and/or Bloodborne.
I love Dr.Horrible's Sing along blog lol I wear that outfit to every costume party lol
Hey Mitch, How do Dungeons work?
I think you should make a video about them and explain how they work.
I’ll get right on that!
oh man its been ages since I last saw Doctor Horrible. My introduction to it was actually a live performance. I need to watch it again now!
Lol clicked this vid was told to go watch the other and come back. Welp Mitch is the boss 🤷🏻♂️ time to go watch the other vid first
Spawning pit is an artifact too and its free sacrifice outlet
Can’t wait for this set. I want to take the Party mechanic and mix it with the dungeon mechanic to make a true Dungeon master themed deck.
Yes finally someone else shares the vision! I threw in various d20 card jank for funsies too(sometimes we just enjoy low powered jank)
How did it go? I'm so interested in making this deck
With my Freeze Ray I will, Stop, the world!
It's not a death ray or an Ice beam that's all Johnny Snow
@@pikachufantastic I just think you need time to know, that im the guy to make it real
Mitch out here working on competitive budget decks look at this guy
@commander's quarters have you been able to get a deck list together for this deck yet? I would love to see how it runs!
Sun titan, fiend hunter, panharmonicon, and a sac outlet also works
Wow
Might have to put this in my yannik/nikara bounce tribal, +1/+1 counters deck
I'm already running all the hunter effects I could find since I built it as an atla palani deck
What I lost in cheating creatures and changeling berserker I gained in extra sac and reanimate+drain effects
I love how he already figured out to create an amazing infinite combo before the entire set is released. 🤣🤣
Great job keep it up 👍
Another loop that gets around needing a Phyrexian Altar (albeit more cards and harder to set up):
Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle + Lotus Petal + Pearl Medallion + Oketra's Monument + Any sacrifice outlet = Nadaar only costs 1 White which we get from the Lotus Petal
And another creature to go alongside the Soul Sisters would be Suture Priest, which also burns enemies for playing creatures
OMG. I didn't realize you can break dungeons. This is... amusing. You might also want to include Teshar to have an incidental chance of bringing back from the dead both Nadaar and the gargoyle (which also triggers Teshar).
had to slow the video down to .75 to understand. Thank you making this vid
*_*sees Nadaar*_*
Ah yes, a Dungeon Dragon Daddy >w>🍷
You could also use panharmonicon, gift of immortality, sun titan and any sac outlet to return you'r commander infinite times to the battlefield ;D
Could you do a budget group hug deck with Kwain, Itinerant Meddler as the commander?
No decklist? I really want to build this and surprise my play group.
I thought once a dungeon was completed its removed?
Same
You can redo the same dungeon after you complete it
They're just always available and are put into the command zone when entered. But any can be used (one at a time) if you take the action of venturing into the dungeon.
My Aminatou deck has atleast 2 ways to get infinite ETB triggers so this is pretty cool
same
From the other video, it sounded like you could only go through a dungeon once and then it's exiled. Is that not correct?
He said at the end that you can re do the same dungeon
It is exiled but that doesn’t mean you can’t reuse it. They start exiled.
It's a token. You just "make" a new token of the dungeon.
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10 minutes later: you could play Lion's Eye Diamond in this Deck
I don't follow the loop. It seems some of the conditions for looping are not being met. Specifically, summoning conditions. Can you demonstrate it? Thanks!
Am I missing something or that felidar got powercreeped into oblivion by cards like Yorion?
Mitch, wait til you see the mythic green planeswalker ellywick.
Cause if "white can do it.. lets see what green can do with it better" ~Probably someone at WOTC
as a planes walker she couldn't infinate like this but what she could do is come in set up to ult then you run the combo next to her and ult to get an insaneEmblan that gives all your creatures +6/+6 Haste and trample.
@@plaxy100 there is several infinite green token generators, so you just vorinclex into ellywick and swing out on everyone.
So... This combo is basically farming the same dungeon over and over to stomp a DM's campaign. I dig that.
Also because it's both a Dragon and a Knight, Nadaar is a good fit in a Sylvia Brightspear/Khorvath Brightflame EDH deck, so it gets flying, haste and double strike once both commanders are in play. I don't know how terrifying this actually is, though.
We've got quite the spectrum here. Either dungeons suck, because it unlikely that you'll be able to build a commander deck to make good use/exploit them (if you can't get through them fast enough) or you just combo win with dungeons...sigh. What's WOTC doing?
Question though?: Didn't they say that when you finish a dungeon it goes to Exile? So wouldn't that mean that for you to go infinite you would have to own about 200+ copies of the physical dungeon card?
the dungeon is not a permanent or a card in your deck, it more acts a emblem when venture triggers
@@Viktxr I know its outside of the deck. I believe (could be wrong about this) they said it goes in the Commander zone. But I know they DID say it exiles itself when completed. So just curious if you need the permanent card. Because I doubt you can just start the game saying, "Im playing X dungeon" and that its a token.
@@jchao007 they start exiled so exile doesn’t mean you can’t use it. Also they specifically said you can just go back in the same dungeon right after finishing it.
It's a token. Tokens cease to exist when exiled so they aren't hanging out in the exile zone.
Is it going to be just one set or are we getting an entire block of forgotten realms cards?
I'm pretty sure they said that each dungeon gets removed from the game when its completed.
This is true but then it returns to the command zone ready to choose again.
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@@eddie_cq8276 Right back at you
Hushbringer, Tocatli Honor Guard, Strict Proctor, Torpor Orb, and Hushwing Gryff says hello to all the ETBs.
With all the "attack triggers" there seems to be in this set do you think they're going to print a Battlehamonicon?
I made a sandwich after watching the first video and came back to this. You people are insane.
I hope they give us a white/green dungeon commander, because I wanna use that green planeswalker
I building white green with Abdel/Master Chef - using the game plan from this video, but with Ellywick
Had it been confirmed we can go over and over again over on the dungeons? It wasn't clear on the other video, cuz if it is, this could be interesting for etb decks such as roon and braggo
Yeah he said once the dungeon is completed you can enter that completed dungeon again, I remember because once he said it I thought that seemed pretty exploitable lol
I do not think the combo is here that you do. But I am willing to be wrong, and find out when we get Rosewater et al to write about it next month.
Excuse me! I made a Dr. Horrible reference in the comment section of that video and you didn't see it, so it seems. My Eyes burn with contempt. I shall wake up to a Brand New Day and find that my faith in you is Slipping.
jk, love ya mate.
Can Cloudstone Curio combo with this as well?
In responce to to [insert creature name with abiltiy to return your commander to play from exile] I cast Disallow. probably never happen who puts disallow in there Commander deck and cards like it. but still can happen or could be sublimed epiphanyd. so do watch out for these when running a deck that exiles your commander,
Didn't he say in the last video once you complete a dungeon you can't go back into same one?
Nah he was saying you can't enter two dungeons at the same time, he did say once it's completed you can go back into the same one.
@@alexjones6761 okay thank you that seems broken then
@@spartangamingttv8040 Facts
Nice a epic mono white comander I like it flicker comander lol
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do!Seems destiny ends with me saving you!
Brago is going to be a great commander to build around dungeons.
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I'm so early
They really should've made each dungeon doable once, now every card that has venture is a combo piece that can win any game.
If there is 10 of these per colour there's 50 new combo pieces for the same combo... -_-
We don't even know what other support cards we are gonna get for dungeons it could get even better
So now my sexy foil Tale's End will finally get into my decks?!?! LMAO, yeah Blue players, once again, feel safe while the rest shudder with fear. Thanks WotC, my favorite troll-ass control decks needed more people to feel salty when I play them, and now I can act like I have no choice. Classic!
A ham sandwich wins if you flicker it infinitely.
Now I feel bad for watching the episode on the dungeons first so I couldn't come back... well I could have but I just finished it.
I like the concept of the dungeons, but they're essentially a free saga ur opponents can't interact with.
Yeah same I don't see any reason not to run them in every deck it's basically free real estate 🤣
Huh? I thought Dungeons get removed from play if you complete them?
What if you just made a selfless tribal deck?
the amount of time you spend telling about your other videos you could have explained how the dungeon mecanic worked instead...
I thought the dungeons exile once they're completed?
They do, but then you can go back in as many times as you want.
(the house is burning, Wizards Executive is sipping tea, saying, "Its fine".)
I was under the impression that you can only do a specific dungeon once per game.
You were under the wrong impression.
So you didn't watch his last video. Tut
Don't Worry you are not alone, love me some doctor horrible
The bigger reveal to me is that dragonborn have the dragon creature type good bunch of new cards for dragon decks coming
This set isn't even out yet and it's broken !!! LoL Good job Eddie.
I do what I can!
yeah a dragon knight for my Sylvia/Khorvath deck^^
A monowhite good commander? That is actually a Nice surprise!
So this is a 5 card combo? 3 hunters, panharmonicon, and your commander?
We did it boys, we broke panharmonicom
Smh, leaving out Felicia Day, how could you?
Now we have another way to draw cards with white.
He said dr horrible and I hit like right away
Damn he made me feel really bad about not watching the other video.
I'm a huge dr. Horrible fan.
I'm more of a Bad Horse fan...
(If you know, you know....lol)
With my freeze ray I will stop…the world.
Cast elixir to prevent decking ourself, get mental misstepped, begin crying.
love me some Dr.
Horrible
Content King
phyrexian altar 60 dollars! " looks at printer"
If an opponent has more life than you have cards in your library you loose first no?
dang
Also Felicia Day
I thought these got exiled after completion
I still haven't watched that other video.
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