Project Cars 2 - First Impressions As A Sim Racer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2017
- So here we are then, my first ever video in Project Cars 2. I think it's fair to say that a lot of sim racers were disappointed with the original pcars (me included) so Pcars 2 has a lot to make up for.
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That fake grip was my biggest issue with PC1 you would come out of the pits on cold tyres and 0 grip but yet AI had 100% grip instantly...
Project CARS 2 still has minor grip problems.
Same!
“I can’t race in Le Mans without fluffing it up. That’s the Toyota way”
That aged very well
Toyota always does.
Why am I getting recommended this now lol
Prolly because it is the "free" game for XBL gold subscribers this month. That's how I got it.
@@stephangoldenberg9163 i actually got recommended a ton of his old videos from around this time too
Me too. The game has evolved since this?
@@Ariautoace the AI is still the same lmao
@@andymb601 Oh boy. Yeah, thankfully I don't use them. Shoddy bunch hehe.
"the toyota gt one won by quite a margin. which is actually quite rare for toyota." rekt lol
a "subtle" dig ;)
swazie I'm confused, toyota gt one didn't win lemans,it was on pole positon but that is all,so what is he talking about?
have you watched le mans in the last couple of years?
swazie The toyota gt one was on pole position in le mans but it had a punctute :/
Toyota has never won at Le Mans, Overall.
The AI with crazy grip has always been a bummer. Especially in the first game when it started raining. You either pit too late and struggle to stay on the track, or pit too early and struggle to find grip on INT/WET tires. Meanwhile the AI doesn't even slow down at all.
The AI even in PROJECT CARS 3 never slowed down in the corners.
Driving so fast the wiper blade is coming through the windscreen!
Shadow
Did anyone notice how the windshield wiper was clipping through the windshield?
It's a known bug
Dev: That's uh... a safety feature.
it almost looks like its meant to be a shadow
hush,hush...uhhhhhhmmmmmmm...*AERODYNAMICS*
Solid Shepard lol
Little did jimmy know that he would eventually tout this game as the best sim for immersion
until AMS2 came out
@@ElShogoso still does immersin factor pretty well
@@ElShogoso AMS2? What is AMS2?
@@purwantiallan5089it’s automobilista 2 or something like that
You're a good youtuber Jimmy, iv'e gone from just checking out your GT3 livestreams when I get home from Ubering at night at 4am to watching your content more often, keep up the good work mate.
Finally some feedback from someone who can be honest and critical. Appreciate it Jimmy!
Shame ProjectC didn't improve a lot on the physics/ffb side.
YESSSSS, been waiting for an "experts" opinion compared to all these other youtubers who play Forza horizon and codemasters F1
Big Stru What about F1 and Forza?
arcade games
World of Gaming Too arcade.
Big Stru This is by far the most negative first impressions of pcars 2 on youtube.
+Dutch Mountains Lol what? It's pretty close to AC, they're both console sims. AC has no place next to rFactor 2, Automobilista or iRacing.
I love you Jimmer, ever time i need an answer from a good sim racer, here you are. Thank you for your service bro. As a fellow UK car enthusiast I would love to meet you one day. I'm down near Bristol but could travel to have a coffee and lunch or something
Lol, nice stuff Jimmer. You pretty much summed up Dirt 4 for me, and this too. tar. Wasn't expecting much, and it looks like it isn't that much.
The other times I've seen footage of the press release have me worried. Definitely will wait until I see sim racers review the full build.
I'm really looking forward to this, seeing that Chris Goodwin had input on the 720s I hope the rest of the cars are afforded the same detail. I've never been back to SMS after 'shift'
The ffb does sound similar to pc1. It took a long time to dial it in and I still never got the "feel" that AC or AMS has. I'll probably still pick it up on a steam sale. I thought the vr was very good
I have a question. Does Project cars 2 have full degree steering angle on controller? Or at least more than 90°? Please answer😄
There is something really weird going on this video, just saying.....those graphics looks poor in comparison to other videos. It is like the game is on low settings.
Nope, everything maxed.
Looks fine. It's just the weather and time of day setting. Looks more realistic rather than fake
The must have given you the oldest of builds then. Just watch SMS stream from yesterday. It looks like two different games.
maxed? looks completely different on my PC at Le Mans. Maybe your recording is low quality.
Agree, looks like a PS3 game or something. All the textures are low quality, there's no way this is maxed out.
Thank you Jimmer for your honesty. I will wait,until this is released before I invest or not.
your racing commentary sounds awesome!! I really enjoyed it! XD
I think he most helpful for us to understand the potential for realism would be to take one car (or a small few, maybe continue with the TS020) and see just how much feedback you can milk from it/them; via wheel settings, game settings, car setup etc. great first vid
wow, I am really surprised .... quite a number of respected sim racers like what the see so far .... Always enjoy your videos, thanks
Thanks Jimmy, saves me 50 quid.
Nice to hear your first opinion ! Hope it improves a bit then hey !
Did they at least improve the AA solution ? How does you 1080Ti do 4K here ? Can it still get 60 fps with pretty high settings ?
what? a GT1 car finaly getting some love ^^, nice to see, usually its gt3 or gte
Where did you get that build? It's way old.
I've heard the Ford GT GTE car is pretty good so it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on that. I'd also like to hear your thoughts on a different type of circuit, on with more elevation maybe? I too want this game to be good so i'd love to hear about the different car/track combinations and how the compare
Hey Jimmer, is it worth to buy if I only play with dualshock?
Releasing a sub-par press release version seems counter productive to me. It really doesn't do them any favours.
Well shit. I had seen a vid from someone else about hwo good the rallyx felt and i was set on getting it. now im seeing this and im having second thoughts lol. good on you, Jimmer, for keeping it real.
Thank you for being honest!
Wish i had seen your vids before i bought it, thankfully i was able to take it back . Pcars 1.5 if you ask me.
Nearly two months have gone by, have you had a chance to check this out again? Any improvements over the press version?
No, still feels like you're driving on ice.
Playing it in 2022. It makes Forza 7 feel like an arcade racer.
People that think cars that actually grip and not feel like you driving on ice = simcade have clearly never actually driven a car on a track or a race car with race tires on a track. I for one, having experience can not wait for a simulator that actually represents how real cars feel. Unfortunately If they mess up with the force feedback... that will suck!! Let's hope they fix that
The reason I play PC is that you buy the game once, you get a crap ton of great tracks and cars, with a reasonable amount of DLC, rather than DLC being 70% of the whole game. It's realistic enough for me, and with the other aspects I think its a good game.
On the G29, I've been enjoying it much more than assetto corsa.
One thing many reviewers fail to mention is how "raw" the Gameplay feels. For example, other Sims such as Assetto corsa feels very bland and dull.
Project cars feels alive. I can't explain it properly but project cars imo does a better job of trying to convince you that you're behind the wheel of a brutal v8 engine.
Also, Assetto feels WAY too understeery for me.
How's the slow speed turning feel compared to iRacing, as at low speeds I have next to no feeling in iRacing (t500rs)
Looking forward to more Pcars videos though, as many of your opinions as you're allowed to give really.
Love how third place finish was 'Miles Behind'
It is now 2024, and I still enjoy racing in PC2. i just do custom races and battle it out with the AI for entertainment for a half hour or so, then go onto another racing game. I am not fussy about racing games as long as I can have some good racing with the AI.
I gave up on online racing, don't have the dedicated time. Raced in 2-3 private leagues many years ago. Was fun.
Has the Press Edition got all the cars and tracks?
Love your narration, another Jackie Stewart
anyone know what the background music is at the beginning?
12:50 that must be the most realistic thing ever. Nice line. Much grip.
Just having the opportunity to race these classic cars like the Toyota TS020 and all the other gives me a shiver down the spine.
Are the same settings available for force feedback as the first game?
No, you have just 3 presets (flavours, really) and 4 sliders this time around to adjust it. It's far simpler and works much better out of the box.
Fair comments JB, good insight
who's here after the PC3 announcement? i'm gonna miss this era of the franchise...
pc3 sucks
Love project cars definitely buying 2, nice video
Thanks for your honest opinion. A lot of people get paid to say something is great when it isn't. I want PC2 to be great as well because I want to race a C7R and have it be as authentic as I can make it.
I'd be very interested in seeing how the oval racing is, especially with the AI. If Indy @ Indy is a positive experience, I may be swayed for PCars 2.
Shame about the FFB not being too much of an improvement though. That really does blow.
You may want to test the various positions of the "Tone" control. Set "tone" to around 20 if you want more "Mz" forces, which are the tire twisting forces. This in turn will give you "more information" in all kinds of situations like understeer.
jimmy where is your formula rim/ haven't seen you use it for a while !!
Project Cars team doesn't know what FFB is no matter what... It seems FFB it's their No. 1 enemy.
best review ive seen, nice work.
Any chance of some 1440p vids Jimmy?
Was waiting on reviews of this.. Wonder what it feels like on a T300. At least it includes a version of Circuit de la Sarthe out of the box, for AC or rF2 it mods only. Hopefully NB (or is it BN now) will provide you with a release version copy so you can have another go...
My only draw for this game was the fact that there was a variety of regular road cars and a vast selection of tracks without needing to use mods. For any race series though other games do it better. I racing for LMP, Rfactor for classic cars, ACC for GT3 and GT4 etc.
how many monitors do you use? sir :)
do you have a new shifter?
the graphics are not final, right?
Very informative. Thanks !
jimmy stole the signaling cable on the main line and brought the hype train to an abrupt stop lol
Jimmy, you would make a remendous trackside commentator....Announcer...? Anyway, aawsuuum videos. This game is my all time favorites. I see folks arguing over vid quality, and such. I AM NOT a pro at videos. But I noted that it pixels and so on, seemingly putting way miore into motion....Real(?) action. Speed. G-force. My un-pro take. Love your stuff Jimmy.
why is the UI bottom right microscopically small
Thanks Jimmy! You've just saved me some money. I think I'll stick to rFactor2.
takethree69 even rFactor is better than PV
PC*
honestly i play the game and it isnt that bad. Yes there is a lot of oversteer but its very fun game so I would recommend the game. I do play on ps4 so it might be different
The ToyotaGTOne is such a beautiful thing. One of my favorite race cars since I was little kid.
THX for the honest thoughts. After PC1 I simply don't trust SMS anymore. In fact, thx to PC1 I will never pre-order any game anymore.
"Stefan Biley" in the 2nd place Audi? That can't be a fluke.. lol
I've had a 24h gt3 race at Road America in PC2 recently. I'm a beginner at sim racing, but compared to Assetto Corsa it just feels weird. I can go a lot quicker in AC than PC2. Maybe there is still that vagueness in force feedback. And for some reason our M6 gt3 was indestructible compared to the other cars
TH-cam works in mysterious ways, getting recommended this one right under a new clips video 🤔
Also: looking at it now, that press release looks really bland compared to the release
Great video Jimmy
glad to finally hear some semblance of negativity about Project Cars 2. It helps put the game into perspective. A good number of people seem too scared to say something is disappointing. Personally I still wanna buy it, but now I know to lower my expectations a bit to enjoy it more lol.
Fair and balanced first impression of the pc2 press release.
Very much enjoyed the praise and criticism in this video. I didn't get PCars 1, but this one looks promising. The only thing that really worried me was seeing the AI. For say 90-100% aggression this would be okay, but for 40% this is just silly. Especially that red BMW that Jimmy Broadbented you from behind.
Sean Hart lmao "jimmy broadbented"
PC1's AI also had "fake grip" when you raced in the rain.
Last time i was this early,Rasputin was alive
cool style bro
I absolutely suck at this game, you make it look so easy
Calm down people. Most of us who will buy PC2 will be very happy about it.
Those who say "I'm not buying it, it's the same as PC1!", "I'll buy it when it's on sale for -80%" "Lol the over-hyped arcade racers!" "I'm not feeling ENOUGH, so I just can't and won't drive it properly" and so on, are a minority.
And it's completely ok if you don't like PC. No problem. You may like iRacing or Rfactor 2 more. We Assetto/PC1/PC2 -racers won't bother you. Or complain about the annoyances and limitations on those titles, or old graphics. But please, don't be so damn elitist. We love racing aswell. And we could kick your ass in iR and Rf2 too.
CGuerrilla Thanks for this comment ! Love the way you're thinking
....? So people cant complain about a game having no force feedback feeling because YOU like the game. Talk about a fanboy
srtviper 650 the fact that it’s there but you can’t extract it says something about your “knowledge”
@@srtviper6509 i think he's talking about whinny asses like you lmao.....
do u have 4k hdr
All "still in development" but funny seeing the windshield wiper clipping thru the windshield. And yes... Press version was confirmed as a build from about 1-2 months behind the current insider builds.
Lots of other comments said included car setups were very understeer focused... as well as FFB still needs fair amount of manual tuning (not as much as first PCARS though).
Can you do a video with the Audi 90 IMSA GTO?
love that car. I think I have some videos of me driving it. I know my comment is late with like 1 year but if you want I can look for them and make some uploads.
and you can make fun of Toyota all you want but the TS020 is one of my favorite le mans cars. Always had such a blast to drive.
I do wish more racing games also had the homologation rules Road Car version of it. It's brilliant and IMO even better than the Nissan R390 Road Car which is popular in many racing games.
Still, I think homologation road cars are some of the coolest cars ever.
Lots of downvotes. People can't handle this, after their hypetrain is derailed. Denial
Shredd chuk chuk chuk chuk chuu chuuu. *Derailed*... Me Sad :-(
it's a bit sad, because this is the only racing sim (or something trying to be a racing sim) that has a proper career mode for the singleplayer enthusiast on PC. Well there's forza but that's even worse
You know, I wonder how much of your complaints about the FFB comes down to the OSW? Because even you Jimmy say the OSW is hard to set up at the best of times... I'm sure when trying to make it work with a game that isn't even out yet, you could get some weirdness. Maybe you should hook up your old wheel and see if it's any better?
(Also and I just thought of this, did the Toyota have power steering?)
Either way I'm still looking forward to Pcars 2, because even if the physics are not up to Iracing, AC level, it just has so many other features to make up for it. Weather, car and track selection, progressive time, online championships, live track. If nothing else It's easily looking to be the ultimate Sim on console right now.
Anyway, a lot of people are recommending the Ford GT's so they might be a good place to start. But in your next video on Pcars 2 you need to test the weather and time progression. Like you said in the video, you were playing it on the most boring settings you could, so spice it up. I personally would like to see some of the rally cross with non rally cross cars.
Currently available for £18 on the steam sale - watching this while it downloads :)
Is that Stephen Bailey that finished in second there?
The 99 GT-One is classified as a Prototype (LMGTP) Jimmy
Because it was never really a GT car. Luggage compartment is in the fuel tank, not very practical!
The ai from what i have heard focus on clean racing on the first laps but then the closer to the end the race gets the more they push and take risks.
Those gloves look awesome
I played today this game is a sim . Not at 100% but at 70/80%
I think most people go from being car enthusiasts, or racing enthusiasts, to playing these racing games and come into them knowing corner names, and all about the cars. I'm the reverse of that. Got into racing sim games, which actually got me into real racing, real cars etc
To that effect - I think the racing industry in general, should come together to build an amazing all inclusive sim racer. I mean like the Star Citizen approach (but with committed timescales).
Think if they raised a budget anywhere near the scale of GTA games or read dead redemption - what you could make, would be mind blowing.
I just got project cars for ps4, and I've got to say, I love it. However, I suck at racing and love doing laps at nordscheife. But as with most racing games, it pisses me off at times and I have to stop playing before I hurt something. Even when it makes me really angry, I still keep coming back. It'll be a while till I start doing career races because I still such ass at racing and my internet is to bad for online racing.
The biggest issue is that the speed in the car isn’t matched up with your surroundings, so you have no clue when to brake.
Funny seeing all of these people hate this build, yet when the game comes out, nothing but praise.
Hope it improves, because the first one was a major pita on xbone.
I just got project cars 2. My previous favourite and main sim was assetto Corsa.
While messing around, I went over the flugplatz at full speed in the CLR in PC2 and was SHOCKED to find it almost flipped! The 911 GT1 did a similar thing but less so, confirming that this aspect was modelled. As I'd never seen such an aerodynamic simulation in a racing game before, I immediately fired up Assetto Corsa and took the 911 GT1 on the flugplatz - and nothing. The car stayed totally planted and flat, no aero lift/drag simulation at all.
Now I ask you, is Assetto Corsa "simcade" because it doesn't model this aspect? Can you call PC2 simcade if it models such an important aspect as aerodynamics so much better than Assetto Corsa?
It became pretty clear to me that a lot of people were full of shit slamming this game (PC2).
It may not be perfect, but from now on, I'll be testing any competing Sim at the flugplatz with a 911 GT1/flat undertray race prototype and rejecting any "superior" sim unless it can match the modelling I saw in PC2. Because to me, flipping a car due to aero lift is something amazing to see in a Sim and confirms that PC2 is not to be underestimated in terms of its physics modelling. No matter what the FFB feels like.
"Feel" does not define accurate physics modelling
After MUCH tuning and modding of config files, setting up the graphics, ECT, this has become my favorite VR sim. Racing into the night and out into the morning with all the different weather and classes, I just love it. So much more atmospheric. I can't get enough, especially since I just installed a custom FBB file from the ProjectCars forum. AMAZING! Absolutely amazing.
I heard the GTE cars are pretty good in the game. Could you test them out along with VR?
Jimmy should commentate F1
Shon only if he talks like Murray and goes by Murray. “SPIN SPIN SPIN”
that wiper clipping the windscreen
Little late to the party but i just picked this game up and im fucking loving it! Im new to sim racing but ive played Forza since day one back in 2004.. damn near almost every day so PC2 was a huge step away for me... BUT Its pretty great. It feels maybe even a little more realistic than Forza does.. I do autocross and some other hobby racing in real life and there was always more of a disconnect between real life and the Forzas... There seems like less of that disconnect with this game for me with the wheel. Im stoked!!