Guys, I know I made a LOT of mistakes in this video regarding nationalities and using the wrong flags here and there. I made an apology video about it and corrected myself the best I could. Could people PLEASE read the descriptions and pinned posts on videos they watch? Cheers.
"The only princess who is made into a joke." All of the princesses are played for laughs, Aurora is falling asleep during the exchange. Jasmine is wielding the Lamp like a weapon, specifically like a gun. Snow White keeps trying to sing for no reason. Venelopy even points out that there's something wrong with them all when they give her examples of what they think a Princess should be. They're all being made into jokes, that was the point. Also they all seem quite stuck up, so it makes sense that they wouldn't go out of their way to try and understand her accent or dialogue speed, since she's from another studio they probably look down their nose at her since they seem quite spoiled.
It's a trailer, they're not going to have every moment from the scene in there and at least two of them are involved in the crazy princess traits moment. (Kinda surprised you didn't mention Anna.)
I'm so unsure how to feel about Wreck It Ralph 2 at this point. The Disney Princesses all being together and hanging out is AMAZING in concept, but with these trailers I'm afraid Disney is going to be pulling a lot of their self-aware "oh look at us making fun of our own branding!" jokes, which have always rubbed me the wrong way. This Merida joke in the recent trailer just left me even more concerned. I think the joke would've worked better if the other princesses hadn't commented on Merida's accent and instead understood her perfectly, with maybe one princess seeing Vanellope's stunned face and saying something like "It takes a bit to get used to." with a knowing expression. It still keeps the joke but makes the Princess's more of a family that understands and respects each other's differences. I'm really worried that the princesses are going to come off as kind of petty towards each other, which seems really out-of-character for them. (Especially Cinderella??? Like, is it just me, or has all her marketing material so far seemed to be this really out-of-character sidegazing???)
Ikr it's like they're trying to ruin themselves... And the new Pooh movie really ruined my childhood since I loved the new adventures of Winnie the Pooh. And the fact that they always reboot everything just concerns me.
You should go back and look at the trailer again. Each princess had a defining quirk, Aurora kept falling asleep does that mean the French are lazy, Tia had Starbucks does that mean all Americans consume Starbucks? My point here is that everyone zeroed in on Merida for deep accent as being a sterotype of all Scott's, but with so many other sterotypes in the princesses scene no one had bothered to look at the others.
I thought the joke was that she was originally just a pixar character until she was brought in as an official Disney princess. Pixar is known for going a lot more rogue on their plots than Disney as a studio, so the fact that Merida has a super thick accent and none of the other princesses do is kind of funny. That's how I understood it? I dunno.
What do you mean by portrayed? You mean the other princesses can’t understand her I kinda did but she lost me in the middle I mean I’m pretty sure they’ll explain why she’s saying that maybe thier all telling each other thier story’s
Kuzco is the best disney princess. Fight me. in all seriousness though, man it has been a L O N G time since i watched one of your videos! Glad to see that even now, I can still hear new perspectives from people unafraid to voice their opinion despite the social rules being built on the internet. WITHOUT going overboard and turning into the very thing those social rules demonize. It's honestly a very refreshing and rare blend!
I appreciate people pointing out the mistakes I made with the Princesses nationalities. Ariel is DANISH not Dutch. And though Frozen is based on The Snow Queen which is also written by Hans Christian Anderson, Frozen is set in Norway, so I used that as Anna and Elsa's nationality. Though I did get the flag wrong, sorry about that. I put Jasmine as Iraq or Iran because Alladin is based on 1001 Nights which was written in the middle east. I didn't want to put Middle east or Arabia since Arabia is a Peninsula and I didn't believe the story came from there. There are theories that the story originated in China, but words used in the story refer to Muslim practices. Since IrawI used the wrong flag for Norway. Sorry if I offended anyone, but without youtube annotations there's no way to correct the video without reuploaded a new version which I simply do not wish to do. I updated the description shortly after upload. If there is anything else I got wrong please let me know.
You have the sexiest accent on earth, I do not feel sorry for you in any way lol ;p Seriously tho as a Canadian part of out entire identity is one of being made fun of/disrespected by Americans, which is why it is our sovereign right to make fun of them lol
Also for my money I'd say you were spot on with Jasmine being mostly Iranian for an architectural one. That being the domed and pointed classical tops of the buildings were created by the Parthians who are pretty much the ancestors of Iranians, throw in Genies and sounds pretty dang close. So for that one reason alone I think Iranian is a good answer. She is a made up character in a made up story too ;p
Alladin is a middle eastern fairy tale and does by no means originate from China. It's setting is supposedly chinese, but beyond the one sentence that akonowledge it as such all the terminologi used is strictly middle eastern. The chinese setting was probably a way of saying that it was a story set in a land far away.
It was a joke. As a viewer who doesn't understand Scottish language then it makes sense for me to not understand it, I feel like Disney did it on purpose, because in "Brave" she pronounced her words and she didn't speak so fast. It's funny because this whole movie is breaking the forth wall and I mean why not, they did show Merida being uninterested in doing 'princess-y' things, there's definitely a gap between her and the others because she is from Pixar.
The problem isn't about feelings being hurt, it's mostly to the detriment of the character. The implication is that the joke may reduce her character to the quirk of their nationality. It's like joking about Mulan being the only one using chopsticks, or Moana not having a full dress like the others. In a way, it *outs* her from the others, and the audience ends up associating Merida's character to that singular trait, rather than the entirety of who she is. Of course, you may say that the Disney Princesses may just be there just to serve a small portion of the movie's entertainment value, and not contribute entirely to the plot. Just there for laughs and poking fun at their conventions. But the thing is, it does show how *Disney* sees their princesses. And if Disney just writes off Merida as "The one from the other studio", it does belittle her compared to how they treat the other Princesses in the film. Perhaps the joke would fit if Disney decided to have a more mature audience wherein they make fun of the other Disney Princesses' nationalities and culture. But that's just it. It would work for a mature audience because we'd be aware of it as a parody. So having such a joke in the film is just, *off* and out of place. And plain, bad writing.
It's the fact that they're making the character herself into a joke. I'm sure it's probably funny-ish to some people but from what we see in the trailer they seem to find her "weird" because she's Scottish and she speaks quickly. Maybe it's just because I myself am (technically) a full Scot and despite not having the accent, everyone on my mum's side has the accent heavily. I guess it's biased since I grew up with it but the whole "Merida being a joke" just rubs people the wrong way.
She made herself a president but her code still shows her as a princess for example to outside players even if she got new glitch powers. The point is that she can present herself as a princess if she wants
Even though Sour Bill stated that Vanellope IS the princess in the game after he got his memory back. And the president was Vanellope was her idea when talking to the Donut police.
princesses shouldn't really be looked up to, its same as little girl look at glamor magazines it gives wrong information. Being Pretty, helpless, kind of dull will win you a sweet art, horrible message to give to girl. Venopille wanting to be president and being herself is message should be giving to kids, always try hard, have a dream, forgive people, work together, etc.
I'm Scottish and I'm going to have to disagree. It's just a film with a joke that some won't like. What's really worse, someone finding joy in a joke or getting upset that the joke exists in the first place. It's rhetorical.
Yes. Thank You! I mean, the joke isn't hurting anyone. Plus, I'm certain the Princesses share a more... close coworkers kind of dynamic, thus, they are able to make those kinds of jokes about Merida because they know her and Merida knows they don't mean anything by it.
A joke is one thing and quite alright. But a fear that the character is reduced to this one joke also seems valid. Then again this is just speculation at this point
I'm pretty sure this is being over thought, this punch line is just that she's from pixar not disney. I think you're being a little quick to assume how the movie will play out, and I'd wait to see the movie to give my opinion.
Arguably, Scottishness is still made into the other, which does rub people the wrong way. Talking the way Merida does was even banned in schools for some years, so it's understandable that there would be this reaction.
It's a joke. I think y'all are taking this too seriously. The movie is not focused on the princesses, so it is normal for each of them to have their own little gag. There's probably not going to be any real character development for any of them, so what's the harm in poking a bit of fun at their unique selling points? The accent line wasn't even the punchline, it was a setup for the "she's from another studio" joke. I mean, I'd be cool if they decided to make a Chinese joke about Mulan's heritage. I wouldn't care. It's one line. Lighten up, it's a movie!
" Americans are fat, stupid, dumb people and we should make mockerys out of their accent because it's so basic." how would ya'll like if this was in a movie. You need to stop and think for a minute. Put yourself in our shoes. You'll never know how offensive it can be unless they are making fun of YOUR nationality. Also these are not my views of Americans. It's a stereotype. Just like they've made Merida into a stereotype of Scottish people.
Brooke Gallacher Apparently you haven't seen The Simpsons, Family Guy, Wall-E, Lilo and Stitch, Monsters Vs Aliens, Incredibles, etc where they joke on the fat dumb American guy.
It's just a joke, come on now. Considering that is IS difficult to understand someone with a heavy Scottish accent, it's not that hard to believe. Personally, I also think you should probably wait for the movie to actually come out and for you to actually know the context of the scene before you decide to be offended over a kids movie.
@@firefox1270 Yes I understand that is how Scottish folks are often depicted. But thats done with every race/nationality in animation. Their features and traits are exaggerated to make it clear to the audience. There really isn't any need to take it so personally. Plus, to those who haven't been around a Scottish accent, it IS incredibly difficult to understand what they're saying. So this is pretty accurate...
A "running joke"? I don't get it, there's one joke in it, not to mention, even in their own movies, Merida is the only one with an accent. So, the others reactions seem founded to me. And a running joke requires a full movie presence. This princess thing seems like it'll me one scene and done.
Well, looking at what you pointed out, I don't necessarily find anything wrong with them making her accent a joke, because it's part of her character's trait/theme. If you look at the trailer, that's somewhat the focus, such Sleeping Beauty/Aurora, you can see her wearing a "Sleep Queen" shirt and she's dozing off a bit as Merida is talking, so they're poking fun at the fact that she slept for so long. I'm sure they plan to extend this kind of treatment to other characters such as Rapunzel getting tangled with her hair and so forth; traits/themes they can spin off into something funny(kind of like in Shrek 3(?) where they took traits/themes and used them for humor such as Sleeping Beaty falling asleep on command or Snow White controlling animals to attsck people) Honestly, what other princess could they use as to where an accent is so unique other people have a hard time understand it? And keep in mind, this is just the trailer, there are so many details we can't account for, so assuming a character is ruined based on a small piece of a trailer that's out of context seems a bit far fetched. For all we know, this could just be a small gag, and Disney still focuses on portraying Merida as the strong female she is throughout the movie. Who knows, we can't just to conclusions yet. Wait till the movie comes out, I think your opinion will have a better foundation then based on what is released.
shrek princesses were best princesses, that scene of snow white commanding animals with her singing was fucking epic. Made me want to go outside and sing shrilly at animals
People are forgetting that this is a Wreck It Ralph movie, not a princessy one. They're focusing more on what the princesses are supposed to be than the movie itself.
You'd be way more offended if you spoke the exact same way as Merida does in this movie. And may I add, Merida spoke a posher Scottish Accent in her movie that was ENTIRELY understandable. They changed it completely to make a mockery out of her.
Mad Munchkin how is it discrimination?? It’s just an accent right? Her accent was also strong in the movie, not as strong here, but maybe it was just strong for this joke. Let’s wait for the movie first
Mad Munchkin i don’t think it’s discrimination, it was just a small joke how they couldn’t understand her well that lead to the main point of the joke, how she’s from Pixar.
A really good video I thoroughly enjoyed it. But you did get a couple of the nationalities for the Disney Princesses wrong. Ariel would not be Dutch she would be Danish as that's where the story of Little Mermaid originate in Denmark. And Jasmine would be Saudi Arabia not Iraqi or Iran this is confirmed by Jasmine being referred to as Arab as in from Saudi Arabia even though the country that she's the princess of is completely fictional it's clearly based on Saudi Arabia and that is where the original story of Aladdin came from hence why it's called Arabian Nights. Other than that good job we'll keep watching your videos keep up the good work
My mistake on Ariel. I believed Hans Christian Anderson was Dutch as I thought he was from the Netherlands. But yes, he is Danish. I put Jasmine down as Iraqi or Iran because the story of Alladin is based on the Arabian Nights, where we read the story was based in Iraq/Iran. Thank you for correcting me on Ariel though. :)
Gwen Lovegood if you want to technical on nationalities in Disney movies when it comes to The Little Mermaid, the character’s nationality you have to figure out is Prince Eric’s. Ariel is a princess of the ocean and someone very anti human as King Triton was up until the end of the movie wouldn’t care about something like nationalities. I am putting way too much thought it this.
I'm scottish myself and I had almost the exact same reaction to this. It's not that including the scots accent is wrong. heck its not even like having other characters have trouble understanding her is wrong. its the presentation of her as if shes alien, or should be embarrassed for speaking the way she does. The way the other princesses look at her makes it seem like she's done something weird/disgusting and the princesses are just in mutual agreement that shes weird and "not like us" it's like a weird elitist "us and them" that doesn't exactly make the subject her studio but instead her voice. I personally had a lot of insecurity about my accent as a child because of this presentation that scottish accents make you an outsider. That insecurity followed me most of my life until my teenage years when I finally just left it behind. So I mean. Personally thats why this joke just didn't land for me. I understand my experiences are not universal and this is for an american audience but I feel as if my experience might add something to the arguement. -shrug-.
Do you think the portrayal of her accent was accurate? I'm not Scottish (unfortunately) so I would really like to know how Merida's accent comes across to actual Scottish people. I thought they exaggerated her accent, but again I wouldn't know. I'm asking out of curiosity (and a soft spot for Scots and anything which is even mildly Scotland-related hehe :) )
that's exactly how I felt watching it but I didn't know how to put it into words! I understood her lol and I could relate but then the alienation of her made me feel really bad.
Also I did notice how they butchered the accent till it sounded completely different from how Merida actually spoke in her movie just to add to the joke. Which annoyed me a lot. Obviously I have a very Glaswegian accent myself so I'm not saying that accent is bad, it is just inaccurate to Merida. She didn't use slang or have such a heavy accent in her movie? So why make it entirely different to how she should sound. To get a couple laughs out of the only Scottish princess we have.
Brooke Gallacher I totally get you! The kind of slang commonly associated with Scotland is largely from Glasgow/Edinburgh. Merida, however, seems to be a highlander. Modern day Inverness and the surrounding areas don't really speak like that at all. So it's not even an accurate joke. It's just a generalisation about Scottish accents purely for laughs that's been poorly shoe horned into her actual voice. (I'm a highlander myself. I've lived in Glasgow for a while now too. So this is speaking from personal experience.)
I have two problems with this video. The first problem I have is when you say Merida seems to be the only one turned into a joke when the previous trailer with the princesses did the same thing to other princesses! I mean we had Belle and Rapunzel excited at the prospect of Vanellope having been "kidnapped or enslaved". What is being done with Merida is not really any different in my eyes. Second the if we changed her nationality point is weak. Since the joke isn't her being scottish the joke is her having a thick accent and talking like a motor mouth. You could've inserted her with any other nationality and it would be fine. Hell the whole character talk fasts and other characters don't understand them is a common trope.
I didn't say Merida was the only princess turned into a joke. I said she was the only princess who had the correct accent for her nationality and THAT is made into a joke.
Now that’s where you’re wrong, jimbo. If a character spoke in a thick Chinese, Mexican, Indian, Laotian, Filipino, Hawaiian, or Nigerian accent and a white Princess said “Haha, we can’t understand her”, there would be an outrage. This joke is only socially acceptable because Merida is white.
Panda Huezo-Menjivar no one is making a big deal,because the joke is not about her being Scottish so much as it is her being the only pixar princess. She is essential from a different world than the other princesses. Its a shout out to that. People just took the joke to far and our of context.
Juan Rodriguez It’s not out of context. They could have found a million ways to represent that fact that weren’t about her dialect. It was about her accent, and the studio thing was thrown in for good measure. It was not about the studio or they would have led with that.
3:14 So does that make Vanellope the first Japanese princess because her game cabinet is possibly made in japan or an American princess because her arcade exists in America? Thoughts?
I'll agree if all of her scenes are like this. But as of now, I think there's plenty other characteristics of Merida shown in that clip: the way she sits is the most 'masculine' among the princesses (I don't know how to word this better, sorry), the way she leans on her leg with her hand and casually slaps Aurora to wake her all emphasize the fact the she is definitely the most brazen and 'unwomanly' of the Princess line-up. Mute the clip and watch it again. Where is all that out of character femininity you criticized disney for? I love how nuanced Meridas bodylanguague is in that clip and to me, this proves that someone put a lot more thought into her than just "yeah she's got that accent"
I feel like them saying “We can’t understand her” was really...unnecessary. I was confused, are they mocking her accent? Merida spoke English in Brave anyway. I did chuckle when they said “She’s from the other studio”. But I think Disney put an unnecessary line that they thought was harmless, but it started all of these videos (I’m not hating).
She didn't have an English accent in her movie, it was just a posher Scottish accent. In this movie they made her accent sound entirely different and way more "Glaswegian" to add to the joke. But she never spoke like that in her movie.
So they were supposed to understand her...? It’s not even an accent that’s a completely different language. Why would you expect anyone who is not Scottish to understand her?
The amount of times I have been asked to translate that clip for Americans has started to frustrate me. I personally wasn’t annoyed by the clip because I make fun of my accent all the time, I agree with you’re points on that Merida is way more than just being Scottish (mind being Scottish is cool af) I really do hope they put some of her other traits in the feature.
Mog of War it’s not all the Americans I know, but yeah I think they just wanted to get the Scottish person to say it over voice chat or type it out for them
I honestly think the princess scene will be super short and not much to it. Just a few jabs at the characters and movie and then move on to the next scene. I think their just using the princesses to get people to go see the movie. Since the princesses are like the only thing they are showing and the only thing people are actually interested in with Wreck it Ralph 2.
Merida is the only Princess that IS different. . .she is the only one who actually speaks with not only the accent of her land of origin, she actually speaks the language of her country. . .something I see as more original than all of the other Princesses and not a joke at all. . .even if it was seen as such. . .That originality is what makes her different in a good way, that Pixar decided to honor the Scottish accent, and Scottish Gaelic as a part of the story makes it different, too, in a very good way.
I can relate. I've been called a social justice warrior for simply telling people, that the word "gay" is not a word to describe something negative or even to use as an insult.
Pelcogo I would agree, but what if someone introduces you to someone new with the words: "And that's (name), but he's gay, so you don't have to mind him." And then the new person would actually avoid you. They might've been just terrible people, but still. Also, I have some classmates, that call almost everything they don't like, from homework, annoying teachers, extreme weather, a bad video game and so on, gay. I get it, there are terrible people out there, but it doesn't mean we/I have to endure that, right? Especially, when there are other good ones, that wouldn't act like that, if it wasn't for those idiots?
I think y'all are just so picky and find so many reasons to get offended😂😂 I see so many people complaining about how things are "Just a joke." Yet when it comes to simple jokes like this everyone gets so offended Edit:Also she and the princesses look different sometimes cause yes, in case you didn't know people have different art styles
I believe that it is the duty of an analyst to pay attention to details like this. The term 'Just a joke' or 'just a movie' is a flippant term used to make people who do read more into films beyond the surface feel bad for doing what they love and pointing put things that others don't see, or rather refuse to see. I did say in the video that I do get the joke and that, yes, it's just a movie. But if we are to just dismiss media as simply entertainment, we become oblivious to the influence it has on society, especially on children. The video wasn't about the look of the princesses. It was about how they're nationalities are depicted. The designs are made different to fit in the style of Wreck it Ralph.
@@MadMunchkin That or you and a lot of people are taking these things way more serious than it needs to be and are looking wayyyy to far into it, finding just little ity bitty details making excuses for things that don't even need to be there
Well, I personally don't take anything seriously when it comes to stereotypes based on where you're from. Like in MLP, only AJ and those who are 'country' have a southern Accent of some kind (AJ having more of a Texan accent).
I'm a Scottish lad myself and I personally think it fine. Also, I think doric is it's own language, but that's neither here nor there. It's not EXACTLY like the other princesses have a terrible lot of emotional/character depth, particularly because I think they're trying to squeeze in everyone's favourite in a way that's less than telling of their character depth. Just to get in that call back. But I think they'll pay her fair parts all the same. Also, her little character blipit we see is her being aloof and fussy, while not acting like she cares too much. So she seems more than a pale/one dimensional Scottish accent here.
exactly, the movie isn't about the disney princesses. The trailers are so obviously made to bait fans into watching but when the princesses part in the movie comes in, they'll probably be there for only 10-20 mins of cameo and they're gone, so of course the personalities would be lacking, they'll barely have the time to properly showcase it a BIG group of people. Think people.
I think it's also worth clarification (at least for me) - I think that she was being very direct and formal about her argument, and did a good job on making her opinion known whilst simultaneously dodging bullets. I completely agree, Merida is an incredible character with one of the best and most epic stories out of all the Disney princesses (in fact she's my personal favorite, she's the only princess that is secretly a badass AND comes from my favorite European country). Judging by the trailer and everything I've seen online in terms of Disney princesses in kids media, I wouldn't be surprised if they leave her as a minor character with little to no voice - I mean, this movie has a target audience...and that target audience probably doesn't mind seeing one princess get left out when there are so many other ones in frame. I like the idea of a Wreck it Ralph sequel, but I'm afraid Disney's gonna turn out another Emojii movie to generate profit. I mean, Sony made tons off of that cash grab, if I'm not mistaken. So, yeah...sorry to say my hopes for this movie aren't very high, but I completely agree with you.
Actually, Elsa is the oldest at 21. And before you say she's a queen and should not count, Disney actually made her a part of the Disney Princess line-up.
I'm not Scottish (I'm Irish) and I was like 'oof' when they made that joke in the trailer. Although I missed a lot of what she was saying I could understand that she was talking about the events of her own movie. I think the last thing she said was 'if that's not pure mad I don't know what is!'
Steven Higgins She was based on a character in Greek mythology who was the daughter of the king of Thebes so technically she should be part of the Disney Princess lineup.
I personally disagree with the opinion. I DON'T believe that Merida's accent is going to be the only character trait given to her throughout the film. Disney always does an amazing job with their characters. And Merida is JAM-PACKED with personality. They really can't mess her up. Also, I do believe that if Merida had another accent it would be still as funny. Merida has the character quirk of having a VERY THICK accent. So if this was replaced with another ethnicity, the accent would still be VERY THICK, And again, accents aren't always easy to understand, It's not like Scottish accents are the only hard to understand accent out there. My parents have a very thick Spanish accent, and I remember when I was younger and they were knew were still kinda new to the English language, even though they were fluent, people still had a really hard time understanding them. And I notice this with foreign students at my school too, Asian accents are really difficult for kids at my school to understand for some reason. And I don't really believe Merida being seen as the ''scottish'' character is a bad thing, Kids are going to see heavy traits of a character before seeing more personal traits, because they don't have the same mindset as adults do most of the time. And if they end up seeing Merida's ethnicity as one of those traits, I still don't see the issue. I feel like I want multi-culture to be more recognized, more heavily infact. Kids at my school don't even know that there are other Asian ethnicities at my school, and are very culturally uneducated. (They don't know that pacific islander is a race, and they seem to think all Asians are Chinese, It's really sad) Now, If Merida's accent is going to represent Scottish culture, then I think that is a little bit of an issue. But what will they do? They are children. But that doesn't mean that they are going to see that trait as a whole race forever unless more light is shined on them. Merida is a DISNEY PRINCESS, That means kids are going to want to know more about her if possible because they love characters that shine light on their childhood, if they see a Scottish Disney princess, they may be influenced to learn more about Scottland, rather then see JUST a quirky accent. And again, I doubt Disney will represent her with just a scottish accent. As a child myself watching the trailer (If you can consider '15' a child), I saw a lot more to Merida in the trailers then her accent. I noticed the energy she had when storytelling and such, and her personality was really bold. And when I watched the movie as a young, young child, I saw MUCH more to Merida's ethnicity then just her accent. I saw the things they ate, the way they dressed, the buildings and world around them. I didn't JUST see an accent (although I noticed it the whole film, I didn't just ignore or forget about it.) And when I was a very young child, I especially noticed Merida's personality, her traits. To big things like her burning passion for archery that I could feel throughout the movie, to small things like the way she treats her horse, and how she reacts to small things. Me, AND my siblings and peers reacted the same way. So what will be different from todays kids? I'm sorry this is really long! I also apologize if my argument is really stupid?
@@MadMunchkin How does that make sense? He wouldn't have actually known that without watching it so it would be pretty ignorant to comment on something without having seen the full video. Also what's wrong with commenting? He didn't like something, he gave his thoughts
Actually never knew ariel was dutch, but it makes sense given the fact she constantly saw ships everywhere around her home during the colonial age lmao
1- all of these movies get dubbed in other countries where English isn’t their first language, so for example Mulan would in China have the right accent and dialect. 2- I kinda see the idea of having the voice actors being from each country even if they were speaking in English but I’m not sure how well it’d come across in a film as whole. Some accents are harder to understand than others, Scottish included whenits being laid on thick. 3- It really isn’t that surprising they’ve done this gag. We do it ourselves unless you’ve not noticed. It’s funny, espically when you’re trying to wind up an English fella. First example off the top of my head is Gary Tank commander and his cheesy pasta rant. He took the accent up to ten for that because it just made it more funny because of his accent.
Um...Hi. I did say in the video that I wasn't saying all the princesses need the correct dialect for their nationalities because from a marketing standpoint when translating them into other languages that would cause too many problems.
um....am I thebonly one who didn't take the joke as making fun of the scottish accent but..instead making fun of Marida being the only PIXSTAR Disney princess? Maybe Im just missing everything but the other princesses make the comment "She's from the other studio" and I assumed that was the joke. Not Marida's accent.. not here to start a war. Just figured I should say.
My view on WIR2 was pretty much killed the moment the princesses said she was one of them because "people assume all her problems got solved because a big strong man showed up". I'm sick of them playing this card and it's part of why people yell "SJW" when people talk about things in Disney movies. Even the older princesses had some real autonomy and the princesses of the Renaissance were real heroines in their own right. Yes, there was usually a romance involved and depending on the piece the man was anything from a strong partner to the main character, but they did not just sit back and let their lives be defined by the men they were with. They chose their paths and found their happiness, and while that happiness always involved love, it wasn't defined purely by it. For that matter, the whole "Belle was captured and enslaved" is also really old. Some people seem to love stripping things down and removing everything that changed characters so that it becomes something it's not, like pretending Beauty and the Beast is Sockholm Syndrome rather than the story of a woman changing a man and saving him.
they probably did that because I mean... of course, it's her language so they put it in if she was an actual person she probably be speaking in her language anyway and they did not ruin Merida unless you think talking her language is some meaning at least they did her language
The entire culture around the term "SJW" has just gotten absurd. Whenever I see it thrown around I always feel like it completely delegitimizes someone's argument at this point. I get the sentiment, but it should really only apply to people who endlessly virtue signal or fight for causes which have no impact on their own lives for the sole purpose of looking good. You on the other hand, this applies to you on a personal level. You're not offended on someone else's behalf. If anyone calls you an "SJW". Just laugh them off. The term is as worthless as just typing "cringe" and leaving.
lynn Kain Same goes with people who throw the word racist because a non-white person was criticized, even when race was never brought up. It's usually the SJW's who do that. Hl
You know, for the longest time, I never knew that the Disney princesses were actually teenagers. They look more like they're in their 20s. Hmph 😕. Go figure. I love Merida. She's my favorite Pixar princess cuz she doesn't act all feminine. She has a definite tom boy feature like me but still beautiful none-the-less. I also love the fact the she's Scottish. I'm Scottish too thru heritage. I wonder if Disney will ever come up with an Irish princess. I'm Irish too. 😁 Lovely to meet you. Love your Scottish accent. Bye. ❤️
This is the first video from Mad Munchkin's channel and I instantly subscribed and I hope I'll love the videos she make and I love how your charter looks
Okay I am watching your content for the first time and the first and most important thing I want to say is that your avatar looks awesome really cool! It is something I have never seen anybody else do and I like it I might stick around for a while.
The characters in the movie are literally the embodiment of their media selves, not them from the movies necessarily. Disney sells Rapunzel as having hair, so thus her appearance here must match up.
Tangled the Series is a midquel, it takes place before Tangled Ever After, in which her hair is short again. She's gonna lose her hair again by the end of the series.
I thought the delivery of her lines and her movements were cute. I guess it's funny to listen to excited scottish accents. It was a little weird that they made it seem like no one could understand her, but I hope she'll have more going for her than a "haha look how silly her accent is".
...but this movie isn’t even about Merida?? All of the portrayals of the characters are meant to be over exaggerated and unrealistic. Like Pocahontas’ hair flying in the wind. Or aurora asleep all the time. They don’t have enough screen time to fully realize every single character.
Because it was a highlight of her character. It would be out of place to have her shooting arrows in the middle of the room or something. It's funny. It's comedy. And it's not meant to be taken seriously. XD (And this is coming from someone who comes from a scottish family lol.)
This isn't about discrimination if it was you'd of commented on the other clearly nationality driven comments about the other princesses or gotten any of your facts like the Ariel or the Polynesian flag right if that was your actual concern . No this was about you getting mad at a joke directed towards your nationality and felt you need to scream prejudice and say that a perfectly balanced character is ruined just cause you got mad. This entire video is petty.
Holy shit it’s been forever since I’ve seen your channel, last time I did you ended up inspiring me to create the first project I’ve ever actually finished lmao
Yeah, I agree, but to be fair, she wasn't the only one with some fun poked at her (albeit on the nose as it is and wish it wasn't a thing) Snow White's my favorite, and I'm hyped to see this movie for the Princesses, but in the first trailer, it looked at the end of it like she was certainly going to be the butt of jokes for her mannerisms and distinct singing voice. Like she's the weird one, the cloudcuckoolander. Even Merida gives her quite the annoyed "WTH?" face when she pops in singing. I'm sincerely hoping they don't poke fun at her for this the whole time, making it, as you said, her only characteristic. And then, in a visual way, I feared about what they did to Cinderella. Her redesign is so jarring. Her 2-D hair, I don't know, is softer and while she may have bangs, it's held in nicely by a headband or tiara or tucked away. Her new 3-D hair in the trailer, they give her these weird bangs and give her quite the snapped expression when she *breaks her glass slipper* to threaten Vanellope with. Color me worried at that point. Thankfully, when she calmed down with her mice, she looked a lot better. Also, in the promo art of her in her casual/pajama outfit, they softened her up and she looks a lot closer to her original design with her ponytail. I hope they can kind of keep her closer to her classic look than farther. (and there were small little jabs made at the others, sure, but idk, these 3 just seemed to get it more, and more a punchline than the rest) As for back to Merida. Not just poking fun at her accent, but it also looked like, at first, that Merida was also just going to look or be the angry princess the whole time. And then the accent joke came in with the 2nd trailer. (And I agree, were they making fun of a different raced/accentedprincess, would it have been seen just as funny? Idk, I didn't find it super funny either. Just an easy joke.) I'm reeeally hoping they give her better representation in the movie too, because she really does deserve it. They all deserve to not be one-note jokes
Everyone judges me for having a Tom - boy Scottish princess as my favourite so I have to pretend that it's aurora (It's not) And I feel bad. She has a lot to offer to the story yet people don't give her proper respect and make jokes that they think are "Funny" when they're really disrespectful. Tsk tsk tsk
The joke is probably that Merida has an accent meanwhile, all the other Disney princesses have American accents despite being from a completely different country of origin. It's just a small joke, everyone knows they're in the wrong, it's not the end of the world. Hell, you seem to have offended quite a bit of people with the mistakes you made in this video. Maybe the writers thought it would be funny and will later see that the joke was a "mistake" to learn from. Fucking hell.
I'm salty that Disney was going to make their own version of Jack and the Bean Stalk but instead they cancelled it and replaced it with a giant advertisement. |:(
There is also the whole issue of time as these stories are separated by centuries and cultures and languages change, die out, and adapt in ways way too diverse to realistically try to replicate. Also since Pocahontas was a member of the Pamunkey tribe, her dialect would be from before the English arrived and as such probably sound nothing like her version in movies.
Can I just say, Disney changed Merida's accent completely for this joke. If you watched the first movie you'd know that she spoke in a very Posh Scottish accent that was entirely understandable. In this movie they made her talk fast, gave her a thick accent just to make a mockery out of her for it. I myself have a thick Scottish accent so I'm not saying that this accent is bad or not how a normal Scot would speak. But it's not how Merida spoke at all. Disney wouldn't even be able to include this joke if they didn't change her accent. So they just made a fool out of Merida basically.
Considering Merida is my favorite Disney princess I'd hate seeing her reduced to one running joke. So I hope that the joke in the trailer isn't too overused, or they at least show her character instead of just a running gag. I mean, if done right running jokes can be funny. As long as there's still a character there and not just the joke, and its not overused.
Raine 5247+ Im pretty sure she isn’t. None of the princesses are because the movie isn’t about them, this just a small scene with them. I don’t know why everyone excepts them to be in every single point of the movie just because of this. So keep wishin
I mean, now days SJW isn't actually someone who says things like ''hey if you didn't said that or did that the movie, game or series you're doing might be better''. No, the term is for people who get offended by even the tiniest thing like the cats from lady and the tramp, the crows for dumbo and even someone saying that what they're doing its rong. That's why Tracer from Overwatch has now an unatural figure, that's why an animator from Disney got kicked out, that's why even saying ''stay healthy'' its ofensive now, even Mohana isn't in the Disney Princesses franchise because Disney is afraid of being backfired by these people. For how things are going, even saying ''HI'' could send you to jail in the future.
Moana was made to show 'even if you are a girl, dont be defined by 'princess' times have changed, not disney pleasing the feminazis. Ontop of that, you could take the crowsas a racial stereotype, but it was something that passed back then and not now, it's not like Dumbo will be re animated/changed or anything.
well actually there is a Live action movie of Dumbo coming out. And it's not like Mulan or Pocahontas didn't fight or anything (Mulan isn't even a princess by definition and she still is in the cast of princcesses). Look, I don't mind seeing a girl being a hero, half of my favorite characters are female, but when an company starts screaming *HEY GIRLS ARE BETTER THAN BOYS* you know something its rong. And going back to the point, if Mulan is in the cast even tho she isn't a princess (she's actually a warrior, and a great one) why isn't Mohana in it even if she is in fact a princess? Answer: Those SJW dudes who started screaming ''Cultural apropiation'' on Mohana (I'm not even making that up, that actually happend)
It's less a joke about her nationality than about the fact that of 30+ princesses (11 officially) spanning 81 years and many different countries of origin, only ONE has an accent anything other than American English, and that same one is the ONLY Pixar princess. Now, we can call this whatever we want, and say it's offensive to Scotts all we like, but if we're being honest here, it's nothing more than a standard 4th wall joke. There are princesses from all around the world, and yet, magically, they all speak with the same dialect. So, with this in mind, Merida may as well be speaking an alien language. It's still english, but spoken in a way none of them have ever heard before. Now, if it had been any of the ethnic princesses who had the accent, this probably wouldn't have still happened, but that's kind of besides the point. After all, there's only one Black princess, One Asian princess, One Native American princess, One Middle Eastern princess, and One Hawaiian princess. Any jokes about them kind of have to be handled with extreme care. But, back to the main point of this comment, sure, Merida is the only Scottish princess, and sure, the only one with an accent, and sure, because of that she's the butt of a stupid joke. But you have to look at the CONTEXT of the joke before pointing fingers and waving signs. She's the closest thing to the real world that any princess has ever gotten, and to the rest of them, she may as well be from another studio...
Greetings from America, I've watched some of your videos before and I recently subscribed to your channel. I think I got an idea for you. When you make that future movie review of Brave, would it be okay if you could go into detail on how the movie could've been better if it were more like an epic fantasy movie and how it compares to Wreck it Ralph in terms of which movie was more "Oscar worthy"? I would appreciate it. Anyways, good job on this video, Mad Munchkin!
Hi...what? I believe that it is the duty of an analyst to pay attention to details like this. The term 'Just a joke' or 'just a movie' is a flippant term used to make people who do read more into films beyond the surface feel bad for doing what they love and pointing put things that others don't see, or rather refuse to see. Saying a movie is just for kids shouldn't mean it gets a gree pass. Children are easily influenced and notice more than we give them credit for. I did say in the video that I do get the joke and that, yes, it's just a movie. But if we are to just dismiss media as simply entertainment, we become oblivious to the influence it has on society, especially on children.
I think this is kinda looking too deep into the movie 😅 it's a kid's movie and most kids wont notice it. In fact they would laugh at it. It needs to be let go because I dont think it was what Disney was trying to do, they were just trying to make it enjoyable for the kids.
I think we all need to remember that, this is in fact a spin off 9f a Disney film that is actually a Disney film much like Dead pool while being in the same universe as XMen isnt actually directly in relationship to xmen other than honorable mentions and a character here of there. This movie is a satire film that is based in a virtual adaptation of modern social internet spaces. It's not in an actual Disney princess film. so upholding Disney princess standards doesn't necessarily need apply to this film. Wreck it Ralph had a lot of characters in it but I wasn't expecting it to be a street fighter film, or a halo film... My expectations were it was a story about Ralph and his struggles of being misunderstood. This movie seems like he is now taking his adventures to new levels now that he k owe who he is. personally I don't think this film is gonna be as good as the first. and in my honest opinion, Merida was and is my favorite princess because she's in my eyes the coolest :D
SJWs are so triggered by everything, that any legitimate problems brought up are now seen as SJW. SJWs have also ruined used of words such as racist, problematic, toxic, inclusive, diverse (list goes on). Yet another reason to hate SJWs. I enjoyed this video, it was actually thought out, raised an actual argument and had good observations. So it was nothing like an SJW talking point.
I thought it was so racist when she spoke in a heavy Irish accent- if that weren't enough they added "We don't know what she's saying- she's from the other studio."
I don't think it's racist that she spoke in a heavy accent because some people do have heavy accents naturally, I think the issue came up is when they said they couldn't understand her
Holy shit she has an actual Scottish accent voiced by a Scottish voice actress and you think it's racist? FFS she even speaks authentic Scottish slang words. WTF is wrong with you people?
If you judge everything on the surface level you won't ever think critically. Wait until the film is out. If your theory still remains true that Wreck it Ralph is destroying the integrity of the Pixar princess. Then fine, we still have to wait to draw conclusions. What about Aroura who they made a narcoleptic, or Snow White they made a ditz? It's viewing the princesses in a satirical manor. It's intended to be over the top, and poke fun at princess tropes. Merida will still be the same hyperactive rebellious red head we know and love. So, don't be so quick to attack things...you'll be a far less negative person if you do. Also, I think the moment they started plastering Merida dolls with glitter was where they went wrong.
I never said that the film will destroy the integrity of Merida.I But what we have seen so far, it seems that she is the only Princess who is being made fun of because of her nationality. Making a joke of a character's Nationality is NOT the same as making fun of a character trait. Because nationality is NOT a character trait. Yes, it's satire. That doesn't mean it gets a free pass for making a joke out of Merida's accent. I As for calling me a negative person, I don't believe I am. I am pointing out something that most people did not see on the surface. That is what an analyst does. I believe that it is the duty of an analyst to pay attention to details like this. The term 'Just a joke' or 'just a movie' is a flippant term used to make people who do read more into films beyond the surface feel bad for doing what they love and pointing put things that others don't see, or rather refuse to see. I did say in the video that I do get the joke and that, yes, it's just a movie. But if we are to just dismiss media as simply entertainment, we become oblivious to the influence it has on society, especially on children.
"Yes, it's satire. That doesn't mean it gets a free pass for making a joke out of Merida's accent." Maybe it does have exactly this free card, because it´s satire? That scene and line is so over the top, it have satire written all over it. And no, i do not think, that it´s about her nationality, its about her being created by a different studio, using her accent to point that out and exaggerate this in the most hilarious way possible. Personally i found it pretty awesome and funny, and thats coming from a person, where everyone else in my country know exactly, from which region i come, as soon as i open my mouth, and nowadays, this region isn´t much loved by the rest of my country for some people doing stupid things. But i don´t care much about that (and most jokes are really funny, even the rough ones:) ), and i doubt, Merida would get worked up about this joke either.I would say, maybe you react a little bit to sensitive or interpret it the wrong way.
I was pretty young when Brave came out, and Merida has always been my favourite Disney princess. I even went as her to fastelavn (a danish costume holiday that doesn’t exist in most other countries), and I still have the dress. I was so angry when I saw a doll in the store that was supposed to be her in a light blue sleeveless dress with glitter all over it, and with perfect princess curls instead of her normal, incontrollably wild hair. Please don’t ruin her even more, Disney.
Merida’s accent would be funny if it wasn’t a Scottish one. If she was if she had any strong accent outside of the American accent then it would probably still be made fun of
Guys, I know I made a LOT of mistakes in this video regarding nationalities and using the wrong flags here and there. I made an apology video about it and corrected myself the best I could. Could people PLEASE read the descriptions and pinned posts on videos they watch? Cheers.
"The only princess who is made into a joke."
All of the princesses are played for laughs, Aurora is falling asleep during the exchange. Jasmine is wielding the Lamp like a weapon, specifically like a gun. Snow White keeps trying to sing for no reason. Venelopy even points out that there's something wrong with them all when they give her examples of what they think a Princess should be. They're all being made into jokes, that was the point.
Also they all seem quite stuck up, so it makes sense that they wouldn't go out of their way to try and understand her accent or dialogue speed, since she's from another studio they probably look down their nose at her since they seem quite spoiled.
Vanellope*
Burning Archaes Mulan, Moana, Tiana, and Repunzel don’t have any weird quirky moments (Yet, and arguably Pocahontas as well)
Pocahontas has her permanently wind-blown hair :D
It's a trailer, they're not going to have every moment from the scene in there and at least two of them are involved in the crazy princess traits moment. (Kinda surprised you didn't mention Anna.)
@@PK-xc3qr because theyre the best princesses *lmao*
I'm so unsure how to feel about Wreck It Ralph 2 at this point. The Disney Princesses all being together and hanging out is AMAZING in concept, but with these trailers I'm afraid Disney is going to be pulling a lot of their self-aware "oh look at us making fun of our own branding!" jokes, which have always rubbed me the wrong way. This Merida joke in the recent trailer just left me even more concerned. I think the joke would've worked better if the other princesses hadn't commented on Merida's accent and instead understood her perfectly, with maybe one princess seeing Vanellope's stunned face and saying something like "It takes a bit to get used to." with a knowing expression.
It still keeps the joke but makes the Princess's more of a family that understands and respects each other's differences. I'm really worried that the princesses are going to come off as kind of petty towards each other, which seems really out-of-character for them. (Especially Cinderella??? Like, is it just me, or has all her marketing material so far seemed to be this really out-of-character sidegazing???)
Ikr it's like they're trying to ruin themselves... And the new Pooh movie really ruined my childhood since I loved the new adventures of Winnie the Pooh. And the fact that they always reboot everything just concerns me.
You mean her breaking her glass slipper into a broken beer bottle knife? You do know what she, and the other princesses, have been through, right?
Dragon empress How exactly did Christopher Robin ruin your childhood?
EaglesMan710 That's not what she meant.
BADWolf How do you know? You’re not her.
Accent jokes aside, let's be honest here, that "other studio" joke was pretty clever
You should go back and look at the trailer again. Each princess had a defining quirk, Aurora kept falling asleep does that mean the French are lazy, Tia had Starbucks does that mean all Americans consume Starbucks? My point here is that everyone zeroed in on Merida for deep accent as being a sterotype of all Scott's, but with so many other sterotypes in the princesses scene no one had bothered to look at the others.
Aurora in the movie was destined to fall asleep for I think 100 years
Tia drinking Starbucks isn't a stereotype, it's just a popular brand. And Aurora falls asleep because she's in Sleeping Beauty.
To be fair, I’d say pretty much every American has had Starbucks at least once (speaking as an American of course)
I’m a Scott I thought it was funny cause when I talk to Americans they have idea it’s honestly really funny
I'm French and I can say that I ate brie in my bed last night
I thought the joke was that she was originally just a pixar character until she was brought in as an official Disney princess. Pixar is known for going a lot more rogue on their plots than Disney as a studio, so the fact that Merida has a super thick accent and none of the other princesses do is kind of funny. That's how I understood it? I dunno.
same bruh same I also thought that was the punchline plus the trailer kinda like made jokes about almost like all the Disney princesses in it..
hey, you forgot Deadpool. he's best Disney princess
True. :D
😂 good joke
Kuzco is best Princess
SivSama YES thank you I was about to comment this ahah
SivSama Technically, Kuzco is a queen but eh I know what you were going for and I agree.
I'm not fond of how Merida was portrayed in the trailer, just hope the rest of the movie holds up ^^;
It could also be that they fix things up proper by the time the movie comes about and what we've seen in the trailers are just from the alpha build...
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What do you mean by portrayed? You mean the other princesses can’t understand her I kinda did but she lost me in the middle I mean I’m pretty sure they’ll explain why she’s saying that maybe thier all telling each other thier story’s
Wreak it Ralph 2: the emoji movie but with actual effort
Kuzco is the best disney princess. Fight me.
in all seriousness though, man it has been a L O N G time since i watched one of your videos! Glad to see that even now, I can still hear new perspectives from people unafraid to voice their opinion despite the social rules being built on the internet. WITHOUT going overboard and turning into the very thing those social rules demonize. It's honestly a very refreshing and rare blend!
Kuzco is the prettiest princess XD The Emperor's New Groove is such an under rated movie
I will.
The Emperor's New Groove is the funniest film Disney has ever made
Elder Rusty
Kuzco has the beautiful hair. The sassy yet kind attitude. Lets not forget his overall gorgeousness XD
Elder Rusty yea
I appreciate people pointing out the mistakes I made with the Princesses nationalities.
Ariel is DANISH not Dutch.
And though Frozen is based on The Snow Queen which is also written by Hans Christian Anderson, Frozen is set in Norway, so I used that as Anna and Elsa's nationality. Though I did get the flag wrong, sorry about that.
I put Jasmine as Iraq or Iran because Alladin is based on 1001 Nights which was written in the middle east. I didn't want to put Middle east or Arabia since Arabia is a Peninsula and I didn't believe the story came from there. There are theories that the story originated in China, but words used in the story refer to Muslim practices. Since IrawI used the wrong flag for Norway.
Sorry if I offended anyone, but without youtube annotations there's no way to correct the video without reuploaded a new version which I simply do not wish to do. I updated the description shortly after upload.
If there is anything else I got wrong please let me know.
You have the sexiest accent on earth, I do not feel sorry for you in any way lol ;p
Seriously tho as a Canadian part of out entire identity is one of being made fun of/disrespected by Americans, which is why it is our sovereign right to make fun of them lol
Also for my money I'd say you were spot on with Jasmine being mostly Iranian for an architectural one. That being the domed and pointed classical tops of the buildings were created by the Parthians who are pretty much the ancestors of Iranians, throw in Genies and sounds pretty dang close. So for that one reason alone I think Iranian is a good answer.
She is a made up character in a made up story too ;p
Nice to see someone agreed with me about Jasmine. Thank you.
3:08 I'm pretty sure that that's not the Norwegian flag
Alladin is a middle eastern fairy tale and does by no means originate from China. It's setting is supposedly chinese, but beyond the one sentence that akonowledge it as such all the terminologi used is strictly middle eastern. The chinese setting was probably a way of saying that it was a story set in a land far away.
It was a joke. As a viewer who doesn't understand Scottish language then it makes sense for me to not understand it, I feel like Disney did it on purpose, because in "Brave" she pronounced her words and she didn't speak so fast. It's funny because this whole movie is breaking the forth wall and I mean why not, they did show Merida being uninterested in doing 'princess-y' things, there's definitely a gap between her and the others because she is from Pixar.
Again, I know it's a joke. But that's exactly the problem. Why should a character's nationality be made into a joke?
why shouldn't it be? is it off limits all of the sudden because your feelings were hurt?
The problem isn't about feelings being hurt, it's mostly to the detriment of the character. The implication is that the joke may reduce her character to the quirk of their nationality. It's like joking about Mulan being the only one using chopsticks, or Moana not having a full dress like the others. In a way, it *outs* her from the others, and the audience ends up associating Merida's character to that singular trait, rather than the entirety of who she is.
Of course, you may say that the Disney Princesses may just be there just to serve a small portion of the movie's entertainment value, and not contribute entirely to the plot. Just there for laughs and poking fun at their conventions.
But the thing is, it does show how *Disney* sees their princesses. And if Disney just writes off Merida as "The one from the other studio", it does belittle her compared to how they treat the other Princesses in the film.
Perhaps the joke would fit if Disney decided to have a more mature audience wherein they make fun of the other Disney Princesses' nationalities and culture. But that's just it. It would work for a mature audience because we'd be aware of it as a parody.
So having such a joke in the film is just, *off* and out of place. And plain, bad writing.
Mad Munchkin
A lot of jokes are that way though
As long as the joke isn't too mean spirited....
It's the fact that they're making the character herself into a joke. I'm sure it's probably funny-ish to some people but from what we see in the trailer they seem to find her "weird" because she's Scottish and she speaks quickly. Maybe it's just because I myself am (technically) a full Scot and despite not having the accent, everyone on my mum's side has the accent heavily. I guess it's biased since I grew up with it but the whole "Merida being a joke" just rubs people the wrong way.
Thought Vanellope was the first Disney President.
She made herself a president but her code still shows her as a princess for example to outside players even if she got new glitch powers. The point is that she can present herself as a princess if she wants
K Damon lol
Even though Sour Bill stated that Vanellope IS the princess in the game after he got his memory back. And the president was Vanellope was her idea when talking to the Donut police.
She is President so idk why people keep calling her a princess when she said she was President
The android with sick coin tricks Again, I'm pretty sure Sour Bill stated that Vannellope is a princess.
I loved the movie brave, I thought the joke about the way Merida speaker was funny but I think she just talked to fast for them
Luca Peyrefitte yeah😆
princesses shouldn't really be looked up to, its same as little girl look at glamor magazines it gives wrong information. Being Pretty, helpless, kind of dull will win you a sweet art, horrible message to give to girl. Venopille wanting to be president and being herself is message should be giving to kids, always try hard, have a dream, forgive people, work together, etc.
I'm Scottish and I'm going to have to disagree. It's just a film with a joke that some won't like. What's really worse, someone finding joy in a joke or getting upset that the joke exists in the first place. It's rhetorical.
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Yes. Thank You! I mean, the joke isn't hurting anyone. Plus, I'm certain the Princesses share a more... close coworkers kind of dynamic, thus, they are able to make those kinds of jokes about Merida because they know her and Merida knows they don't mean anything by it.
A joke is one thing and quite alright. But a fear that the character is reduced to this one joke also seems valid. Then again this is just speculation at this point
Ignoring if people get offended by it for a moment, turning an already established character into a single running joke is just lazy writing.
I wonder if it would be as acceptable if they had had Tiana spouting out some babble using a heavy dose of ebonics.
The movie hasn’t came out yet-
you guys already judging,,
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yxmiz; yall judge the mv before it comes out, dont you
I mean you probably make theories and judge before the MV comes out so youre in no place to talk
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I'm pretty sure this is being over thought, this punch line is just that she's from pixar not disney. I think you're being a little quick to assume how the movie will play out, and I'd wait to see the movie to give my opinion.
Let's wait until the movie comes in theaters and we'll see how it holds up
Arguably, Scottishness is still made into the other, which does rub people the wrong way. Talking the way Merida does was even banned in schools for some years, so it's understandable that there would be this reaction.
It's a joke. I think y'all are taking this too seriously.
The movie is not focused on the princesses, so it is normal for each of them to have their own little gag. There's probably not going to be any real character development for any of them, so what's the harm in poking a bit of fun at their unique selling points? The accent line wasn't even the punchline, it was a setup for the "she's from another studio" joke.
I mean, I'd be cool if they decided to make a Chinese joke about Mulan's heritage. I wouldn't care. It's one line. Lighten up, it's a movie!
She's just being really whiny hahahha
" Americans are fat, stupid, dumb people and we should make mockerys out of their accent because it's so basic." how would ya'll like if this was in a movie. You need to stop and think for a minute. Put yourself in our shoes. You'll never know how offensive it can be unless they are making fun of YOUR nationality. Also these are not my views of Americans. It's a stereotype. Just like they've made Merida into a stereotype of Scottish people.
Brooke Gallacher Apparently you haven't seen The Simpsons, Family Guy, Wall-E, Lilo and Stitch, Monsters Vs Aliens, Incredibles, etc where they joke on the fat dumb American guy.
@@phatmanxxxl and these programme offend you? And I have seen all of them btw
nope, any decent person was not offended by those, so you shouldnt be either
*What even is Wreck it Ralph 2 about at this point?*
Emoji movie 2.0
A very long confusing piece of Product Placement.
The Lego Communist at least it's better than the Emoji Movie though
They're trying to save Sugar Rush from...something.
They aren't really focusing on the plot.
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It's just a joke, come on now. Considering that is IS difficult to understand someone with a heavy Scottish accent, it's not that hard to believe. Personally, I also think you should probably wait for the movie to actually come out and for you to actually know the context of the scene before you decide to be offended over a kids movie.
@@firefox1270 Yes I understand that is how Scottish folks are often depicted. But thats done with every race/nationality in animation. Their features and traits are exaggerated to make it clear to the audience. There really isn't any need to take it so personally. Plus, to those who haven't been around a Scottish accent, it IS incredibly difficult to understand what they're saying. So this is pretty accurate...
Kaitlen Smith Agreed. 👍
But what she said WASN'T difficult to understand. In fact I can't see how anyone COULDN'T understand it. It was exceedingly easy to grasp.
@@ReverendSyn Maybe for someone who's use to hearing it a lot, but for other people yeah it's hard to understand clearly.
A "running joke"? I don't get it, there's one joke in it, not to mention, even in their own movies, Merida is the only one with an accent. So, the others reactions seem founded to me.
And a running joke requires a full movie presence. This princess thing seems like it'll me one scene and done.
Thing is though, that even with the accent you could still easily understand what she was saying.
I thought Ariel's nationality was...The Ocean.
Garrett Carter *Of Oceanic descent
Atlantican.
She's an Ocean Man.
Take her by the hand and take her to the land.
Hope you'll understand
Yeah, but what part of the ocean we talkin about here?
Well, looking at what you pointed out, I don't necessarily find anything wrong with them making her accent a joke, because it's part of her character's trait/theme. If you look at the trailer, that's somewhat the focus, such Sleeping Beauty/Aurora, you can see her wearing a "Sleep Queen" shirt and she's dozing off a bit as Merida is talking, so they're poking fun at the fact that she slept for so long. I'm sure they plan to extend this kind of treatment to other characters such as Rapunzel getting tangled with her hair and so forth; traits/themes they can spin off into something funny(kind of like in Shrek 3(?) where they took traits/themes and used them for humor such as Sleeping Beaty falling asleep on command or Snow White controlling animals to attsck people) Honestly, what other princess could they use as to where an accent is so unique other people have a hard time understand it?
And keep in mind, this is just the trailer, there are so many details we can't account for, so assuming a character is ruined based on a small piece of a trailer that's out of context seems a bit far fetched. For all we know, this could just be a small gag, and Disney still focuses on portraying Merida as the strong female she is throughout the movie. Who knows, we can't just to conclusions yet.
Wait till the movie comes out, I think your opinion will have a better foundation then based on what is released.
shrek princesses were best princesses, that scene of snow white commanding animals with her singing was fucking epic. Made me want to go outside and sing shrilly at animals
Preach!! People are so sensitive ughh, why is it so hard for her to wait until she sees the whole movie and then judge...
People are forgetting that this is a Wreck It Ralph movie, not a princessy one. They're focusing more on what the princesses are supposed to be than the movie itself.
You'd be way more offended if you spoke the exact same way as Merida does in this movie. And may I add, Merida spoke a posher Scottish Accent in her movie that was ENTIRELY understandable. They changed it completely to make a mockery out of her.
They make fun of all the princesses, chill and stop being whiny babies
There’s literally nothing wrong with any of the princess parts. They look fantastic and it was funny.
there's a lot wrong with some of them
Meh. Some look off. And also they made “thicc,realistic “ in their casual wear.
@@GhostFan-ev4di look it’s his or her opinion mate
Disney: *releases a trailer with a joke about a character*
Morons: ThIS ChArACteR iS rUinED
Matias Navarrete-Lamas 🤣
Morons: I don't know the difference between a joke about a character and discrimination of a character.
Mad Munchkin how is it discrimination?? It’s just an accent right? Her accent was also strong in the movie, not as strong here, but maybe it was just strong for this joke. Let’s wait for the movie first
They could have made a joke about a character trait, but they went for her accent. That's why it's discrimination.
Mad Munchkin i don’t think it’s discrimination, it was just a small joke how they couldn’t understand her well that lead to the main point of the joke, how she’s from Pixar.
A really good video I thoroughly enjoyed it. But you did get a couple of the nationalities for the Disney Princesses wrong. Ariel would not be Dutch she would be Danish as that's where the story of Little Mermaid originate in Denmark. And Jasmine would be Saudi Arabia not Iraqi or Iran this is confirmed by Jasmine being referred to as Arab as in from Saudi Arabia even though the country that she's the princess of is completely fictional it's clearly based on Saudi Arabia and that is where the original story of Aladdin came from hence why it's called Arabian Nights. Other than that good job we'll keep watching your videos keep up the good work
My mistake on Ariel. I believed Hans Christian Anderson was Dutch as I thought he was from the Netherlands. But yes, he is Danish. I put Jasmine down as Iraqi or Iran because the story of Alladin is based on the Arabian Nights, where we read the story was based in Iraq/Iran. Thank you for correcting me on Ariel though. :)
i wanted to say something to official moana/vianna elsa and anna ar not Disney Princesses they did not have they coronation yet
Gwen Lovegood if you want to technical on nationalities in Disney movies when it comes to The Little Mermaid, the character’s nationality you have to figure out is Prince Eric’s. Ariel is a princess of the ocean and someone very anti human as King Triton was up until the end of the movie wouldn’t care about something like nationalities. I am putting way too much thought it this.
I'm scottish myself and I had almost the exact same reaction to this. It's not that including the scots accent is wrong. heck its not even like having other characters have trouble understanding her is wrong. its the presentation of her as if shes alien, or should be embarrassed for speaking the way she does. The way the other princesses look at her makes it seem like she's done something weird/disgusting and the princesses are just in mutual agreement that shes weird and "not like us" it's like a weird elitist "us and them" that doesn't exactly make the subject her studio but instead her voice.
I personally had a lot of insecurity about my accent as a child because of this presentation that scottish accents make you an outsider. That insecurity followed me most of my life until my teenage years when I finally just left it behind. So I mean. Personally thats why this joke just didn't land for me. I understand my experiences are not universal and this is for an american audience but I feel as if my experience might add something to the arguement. -shrug-.
Do you think the portrayal of her accent was accurate? I'm not Scottish (unfortunately) so I would really like to know how Merida's accent comes across to actual Scottish people. I thought they exaggerated her accent, but again I wouldn't know. I'm asking out of curiosity (and a soft spot for Scots and anything which is even mildly Scotland-related hehe :) )
maidofsalt I am the same
that's exactly how I felt watching it but I didn't know how to put it into words! I understood her lol and I could relate but then the alienation of her made me feel really bad.
Also I did notice how they butchered the accent till it sounded completely different from how Merida actually spoke in her movie just to add to the joke. Which annoyed me a lot. Obviously I have a very Glaswegian accent myself so I'm not saying that accent is bad, it is just inaccurate to Merida. She didn't use slang or have such a heavy accent in her movie? So why make it entirely different to how she should sound. To get a couple laughs out of the only Scottish princess we have.
Brooke Gallacher I totally get you! The kind of slang commonly associated with Scotland is largely from Glasgow/Edinburgh. Merida, however, seems to be a highlander. Modern day Inverness and the surrounding areas don't really speak like that at all. So it's not even an accurate joke. It's just a generalisation about Scottish accents purely for laughs that's been poorly shoe horned into her actual voice. (I'm a highlander myself. I've lived in Glasgow for a while now too. So this is speaking from personal experience.)
I have two problems with this video.
The first problem I have is when you say Merida seems to be the only one turned into a joke when the previous trailer with the princesses did the same thing to other princesses! I mean we had Belle and Rapunzel excited at the prospect of Vanellope having been "kidnapped or enslaved". What is being done with Merida is not really any different in my eyes.
Second the if we changed her nationality point is weak. Since the joke isn't her being scottish the joke is her having a thick accent and talking like a motor mouth. You could've inserted her with any other nationality and it would be fine. Hell the whole character talk fasts and other characters don't understand them is a common trope.
I didn't say Merida was the only princess turned into a joke. I said she was the only princess who had the correct accent for her nationality and THAT is made into a joke.
Now that’s where you’re wrong, jimbo. If a character spoke in a thick Chinese, Mexican, Indian, Laotian, Filipino, Hawaiian, or Nigerian accent and a white Princess said “Haha, we can’t understand her”, there would be an outrage. This joke is only socially acceptable because Merida is white.
Panda Huezo-Menjivar no one is making a big deal,because the joke is not about her being Scottish so much as it is her being the only pixar princess. She is essential from a different world than the other princesses. Its a shout out to that. People just took the joke to far and our of context.
Juan Rodriguez It’s not out of context. They could have found a million ways to represent that fact that weren’t about her dialect. It was about her accent, and the studio thing was thrown in for good measure. It was not about the studio or they would have led with that.
+AlwaysLookCool 729
what's that?
I'm dumb...
3:14 So does that make Vanellope the first Japanese princess because her game cabinet is possibly made in japan or an American princess because her arcade exists in America? Thoughts?
I'll agree if all of her scenes are like this. But as of now, I think there's plenty other characteristics of Merida shown in that clip: the way she sits is the most 'masculine' among the princesses (I don't know how to word this better, sorry), the way she leans on her leg with her hand and casually slaps Aurora to wake her all emphasize the fact the she is definitely the most brazen and 'unwomanly' of the Princess line-up. Mute the clip and watch it again. Where is all that out of character femininity you criticized disney for? I love how nuanced Meridas bodylanguague is in that clip and to me, this proves that someone put a lot more thought into her than just "yeah she's got that accent"
I feel like them saying “We can’t understand her” was really...unnecessary. I was confused, are they mocking her accent? Merida spoke English in Brave anyway. I did chuckle when they said “She’s from the other studio”. But I think Disney put an unnecessary line that they thought was harmless, but it started all of these videos (I’m not hating).
She didn't have an English accent in her movie, it was just a posher Scottish accent. In this movie they made her accent sound entirely different and way more "Glaswegian" to add to the joke. But she never spoke like that in her movie.
maybe if the movie was real she'd speak in her language but its just a movie so we English people gotta understand the movie am i right?
@@CosmicGlacier Scottish people do speak English...
@Adventist That's the thing though. Merida didn't speak like that in her movie. She spoke posher. And they changed it for he purpose of that joke
So they were supposed to understand her...? It’s not even an accent that’s a completely different language. Why would you expect anyone who is not Scottish to understand her?
The amount of times I have been asked to translate that clip for Americans has started to frustrate me. I personally wasn’t annoyed by the clip because I make fun of my accent all the time, I agree with you’re points on that Merida is way more than just being Scottish (mind being Scottish is cool af) I really do hope they put some of her other traits in the feature.
And I never needed a translation... And I'm an American with auditory processing disorders... Peeps who cannot understand it have no excuse.
Mog of War it’s not all the Americans I know, but yeah I think they just wanted to get the Scottish person to say it over voice chat or type it out for them
Lightning Flourish You could meme it by "Translating it" for them verbally, but instead lay it on even thicker.
Mog of War I like your thinking lmao 😈
Lightning Flourish I can't believe that, I've never met a Scottish person in my life, yet I could fully understand what she was saying. 💜
I honestly think the princess scene will be super short and not much to it. Just a few jabs at the characters and movie and then move on to the next scene. I think their just using the princesses to get people to go see the movie. Since the princesses are like the only thing they are showing and the only thing people are actually interested in with Wreck it Ralph 2.
exactly, It's a Reck it Ralph movie, not a dysney princess movie, people shouldn't think so deeply about these..
I honestly wouldn't want the princesses to play a major role. I only care about Ralph & Venellope
You barely touched on the WHY of Disney ruining Merida before going off the rails to explain why you're not an SJW.
OriginalNeomoon I agree. It’s not about her accent, it’s about feminizing her when it’s not needed.
Merida is the only Princess that IS different. . .she is the only one who actually speaks with not only the accent of her land of origin, she actually speaks the language of her country. . .something I see as more original than all of the other Princesses and not a joke at all. . .even if it was seen as such. . .That originality is what makes her different in a good way, that Pixar decided to honor the Scottish accent, and Scottish Gaelic as a part of the story makes it different, too, in a very good way.
I can relate. I've been called a social justice warrior for simply telling people, that the word "gay" is not a word to describe something negative or even to use as an insult.
Pelcogo I would agree, but what if someone introduces you to someone new with the words: "And that's (name), but he's gay, so you don't have to mind him." And then the new person would actually avoid you. They might've been just terrible people, but still.
Also, I have some classmates, that call almost everything they don't like, from homework, annoying teachers, extreme weather, a bad video game and so on, gay. I get it, there are terrible people out there, but it doesn't mean we/I have to endure that, right? Especially, when there are other good ones, that wouldn't act like that, if it wasn't for those idiots?
Chrysalis imposter that to me is what we called snowflakes
Chrysalis imposter it means “happy” right?
Jackeline Frost I think so, yeah. Good call. ^-^
When you're with the Flintstones
Have a yabba-dabba-doo time
A dabba-doo time
We'll have a gay old time
I think y'all are just so picky and find so many reasons to get offended😂😂 I see so many people complaining about how things are "Just a joke." Yet when it comes to simple jokes like this everyone gets so offended
Edit:Also she and the princesses look different sometimes cause yes, in case you didn't know people have different art styles
I believe that it is the duty of an analyst to pay attention to details like this. The term 'Just a joke' or 'just a movie' is a flippant term used to make people who do read more into films beyond the surface feel bad for doing what they love and pointing put things that others don't see, or rather refuse to see. I did say in the video that I do get the joke and that, yes, it's just a movie. But if we are to just dismiss media as simply entertainment, we become oblivious to the influence it has on society, especially on children.
The video wasn't about the look of the princesses. It was about how they're nationalities are depicted. The designs are made different to fit in the style of Wreck it Ralph.
@@MadMunchkin That or you and a lot of people are taking these things way more serious than it needs to be and are looking wayyyy to far into it, finding just little ity bitty details making excuses for things that don't even need to be there
Hi. That's what an analyst does. :)
@@MadMunchkin Which proves my point :) You just admitted yourself out
Clearly, you have a dazzling intellect.
Maddie, I love your programming, and I'ma let you finish, but Scrooge McDuck is the best Disney Scottish Character of all time!
I have to agree with you there. :)
Man jokes can really change how people look at characters now
2018 am I right?
Merida wasn't "ruined".
And I am a diehard fan of Merida.
Get over it.
Well, I personally don't take anything seriously when it comes to stereotypes based on where you're from. Like in MLP, only AJ and those who are 'country' have a southern Accent of some kind (AJ having more of a Texan accent).
Zodia195 but they never really make fun of apple Jack's accent that's the thing
I'm a Scottish lad myself and I personally think it fine. Also, I think doric is it's own language, but that's neither here nor there. It's not EXACTLY like the other princesses have a terrible lot of emotional/character depth, particularly because I think they're trying to squeeze in everyone's favourite in a way that's less than telling of their character depth. Just to get in that call back. But I think they'll pay her fair parts all the same. Also, her little character blipit we see is her being aloof and fussy, while not acting like she cares too much. So she seems more than a pale/one dimensional Scottish accent here.
Dorric is a dialect, not a language. :)
Mad Munchkin wow, lightning reply. I've heard it's own language because it has so many words to it's own.
exactly, the movie isn't about the disney princesses. The trailers are so obviously made to bait fans into watching but when the princesses part in the movie comes in, they'll probably be there for only 10-20 mins of cameo and they're gone, so of course the personalities would be lacking, they'll barely have the time to properly showcase it a BIG group of people. Think people.
I think I get why it bothers you, but at the same time, it's just a joke 😅
I think it's also worth clarification (at least for me) - I think that she was being very direct and formal about her argument, and did a good job on making her opinion known whilst simultaneously dodging bullets. I completely agree, Merida is an incredible character with one of the best and most epic stories out of all the Disney princesses (in fact she's my personal favorite, she's the only princess that is secretly a badass AND comes from my favorite European country). Judging by the trailer and everything I've seen online in terms of Disney princesses in kids media, I wouldn't be surprised if they leave her as a minor character with little to no voice - I mean, this movie has a target audience...and that target audience probably doesn't mind seeing one princess get left out when there are so many other ones in frame. I like the idea of a Wreck it Ralph sequel, but I'm afraid Disney's gonna turn out another Emojii movie to generate profit. I mean, Sony made tons off of that cash grab, if I'm not mistaken. So, yeah...sorry to say my hopes for this movie aren't very high, but I completely agree with you.
I'm still angry that it's not called 'Ralph *Wrecks* the Internet'
If I remember correctly.. Isn’t Merida trying to get away from the princess lineup?
"I gave mamama a caeke.... she turn to big Bear(m)"
....I mean I liked the joke.....I don’t think the movie is going to make fun of her....I just think that was a joke.....
Actually, Elsa is the oldest at 21. And before you say she's a queen and should not count, Disney actually made her a part of the Disney Princess line-up.
I'm not Scottish (I'm Irish) and I was like 'oof' when they made that joke in the trailer.
Although I missed a lot of what she was saying I could understand that she was talking about the events of her own movie. I think the last thing she said was 'if that's not pure mad I don't know what is!'
No Megara, no dice!
docterfantazmo
No Megara on screen, No me in the Cinemas
You do both realize that Meg is not part of the Disney Princess franchise, right?
Steven Higgins She was based on a character in Greek mythology who was the daughter of the king of Thebes so technically she should be part of the Disney Princess lineup.
Joshua Daniel she didn't make them enough money.
I personally disagree with the opinion. I DON'T believe that Merida's accent is going to be the only character trait given to her throughout the film. Disney always does an amazing job with their characters. And Merida is JAM-PACKED with personality. They really can't mess her up. Also, I do believe that if Merida had another accent it would be still as funny. Merida has the character quirk of having a VERY THICK accent. So if this was replaced with another ethnicity, the accent would still be VERY THICK, And again, accents aren't always easy to understand, It's not like Scottish accents are the only hard to understand accent out there. My parents have a very thick Spanish accent, and I remember when I was younger and they were knew were still kinda new to the English language, even though they were fluent, people still had a really hard time understanding them. And I notice this with foreign students at my school too, Asian accents are really difficult for kids at my school to understand for some reason.
And I don't really believe Merida being seen as the ''scottish'' character is a bad thing, Kids are going to see heavy traits of a character before seeing more personal traits, because they don't have the same mindset as adults do most of the time. And if they end up seeing Merida's ethnicity as one of those traits, I still don't see the issue. I feel like I want multi-culture to be more recognized, more heavily infact. Kids at my school don't even know that there are other Asian ethnicities at my school, and are very culturally uneducated. (They don't know that pacific islander is a race, and they seem to think all Asians are Chinese, It's really sad)
Now, If Merida's accent is going to represent Scottish culture, then I think that is a little bit of an issue. But what will they do? They are children. But that doesn't mean that they are going to see that trait as a whole race forever unless more light is shined on them. Merida is a DISNEY PRINCESS, That means kids are going to want to know more about her if possible because they love characters that shine light on their childhood, if they see a Scottish Disney princess, they may be influenced to learn more about Scottland, rather then see JUST a quirky accent. And again, I doubt Disney will represent her with just a scottish accent. As a child myself watching the trailer (If you can consider '15' a child), I saw a lot more to Merida in the trailers then her accent. I noticed the energy she had when storytelling and such, and her personality was really bold. And when I watched the movie as a young, young child, I saw MUCH more to Merida's ethnicity then just her accent. I saw the things they ate, the way they dressed, the buildings and world around them. I didn't JUST see an accent (although I noticed it the whole film, I didn't just ignore or forget about it.)
And when I was a very young child, I especially noticed Merida's personality, her traits. To big things like her burning passion for archery that I could feel throughout the movie, to small things like the way she treats her horse, and how she reacts to small things. Me, AND my siblings and peers reacted the same way. So what will be different from todays kids?
I'm sorry this is really long! I also apologize if my argument is really stupid?
Again, I'm really sorry that it's long.
I'm extremely talkative, even over small things. It's a bad habit I'm trying to fix.
The movie hasn’t even come out yet?
How can u justify this rash video over a line in a trailer
Quite easilly. It's my job.
Mad Munchkin then maybe u should rethink it a bit
It was just one joke
Not a character destroying scene
This girl probably learned to tie her shoes yesterday, she doesn't know the difference between right and wrong yet. Give it time.
Mr. Dewott75 the little munch.
It’s probably gonna be in the movie since trailers like to spoil shit.
This whole video is just:
“GIVE ME ATTENTION! WAH!”
Of course it is, and yet you watched yet and commented.
@@MadMunchkin How does that make sense? He wouldn't have actually known that without watching it so it would be pretty ignorant to comment on something without having seen the full video. Also what's wrong with commenting? He didn't like something, he gave his thoughts
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil she didn't say he can't comment
Actually never knew ariel was dutch, but it makes sense given the fact she constantly saw ships everywhere around her home during the colonial age lmao
1- all of these movies get dubbed in other countries where English isn’t their first language, so for example Mulan would in China have the right accent and dialect.
2- I kinda see the idea of having the voice actors being from each country even if they were speaking in English but I’m not sure how well it’d come across in a film as whole. Some accents are harder to understand than others, Scottish included whenits being laid on thick.
3- It really isn’t that surprising they’ve done this gag. We do it ourselves unless you’ve not noticed. It’s funny, espically when you’re trying to wind up an English fella. First example off the top of my head is Gary Tank commander and his cheesy pasta rant. He took the accent up to ten for that because it just made it more funny because of his accent.
Um...Hi. I did say in the video that I wasn't saying all the princesses need the correct dialect for their nationalities because from a marketing standpoint when translating them into other languages that would cause too many problems.
um....am I thebonly one who didn't take the joke as making fun of the scottish accent but..instead making fun of Marida being the only PIXSTAR Disney princess?
Maybe Im just missing everything but the other princesses make the comment "She's from the other studio" and I assumed that was the joke. Not Marida's accent..
not here to start a war. Just figured I should say.
Dude it’s a joke bro. Stop getting so triggered . People think it’s funny,ok dude
Triggered isn't another word for angry, don't use it as one.
Sangii Art Yeah dude I totally agree bro lol dude really
Please don't use triggered in that way.
I stopped reading at "triggered".
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My view on WIR2 was pretty much killed the moment the princesses said she was one of them because "people assume all her problems got solved because a big strong man showed up". I'm sick of them playing this card and it's part of why people yell "SJW" when people talk about things in Disney movies. Even the older princesses had some real autonomy and the princesses of the Renaissance were real heroines in their own right. Yes, there was usually a romance involved and depending on the piece the man was anything from a strong partner to the main character, but they did not just sit back and let their lives be defined by the men they were with. They chose their paths and found their happiness, and while that happiness always involved love, it wasn't defined purely by it.
For that matter, the whole "Belle was captured and enslaved" is also really old. Some people seem to love stripping things down and removing everything that changed characters so that it becomes something it's not, like pretending Beauty and the Beast is Sockholm Syndrome rather than the story of a woman changing a man and saving him.
I agree thank you for putting it into words I have a hard time doing that for certain subjects
they probably did that because I mean... of course, it's her language so they put it in if she was an actual person she probably be speaking in her language anyway
and they did not ruin Merida unless you think talking her language is some meaning at least they did her language
Actually Gaelic is the native Scottish language so she's not speaking her "language" she's just speaking a heavily accented English.
The entire culture around the term "SJW" has just gotten absurd. Whenever I see it thrown around I always feel like it completely delegitimizes someone's argument at this point.
I get the sentiment, but it should really only apply to people who endlessly virtue signal or fight for causes which have no impact on their own lives for the sole purpose of looking good.
You on the other hand, this applies to you on a personal level. You're not offended on someone else's behalf. If anyone calls you an "SJW". Just laugh them off. The term is as worthless as just typing "cringe" and leaving.
PlotlinePlus You mean like the term “Nazis”?
lynn Kain Same goes with people who throw the word racist because a non-white person was criticized, even when race was never brought up.
It's usually the SJW's who do that. Hl
Cringe
You know, for the longest time, I never knew that the Disney princesses were actually teenagers. They look more like they're in their 20s. Hmph 😕. Go figure. I love Merida. She's my favorite Pixar princess cuz she doesn't act all feminine. She has a definite tom boy feature like me but still beautiful none-the-less. I also love the fact the she's Scottish. I'm Scottish too thru heritage. I wonder if Disney will ever come up with an Irish princess. I'm Irish too. 😁 Lovely to meet you. Love your Scottish accent. Bye. ❤️
This is the first video from Mad Munchkin's channel and I instantly subscribed and I hope I'll love the videos she make and I love how your charter looks
Okay I am watching your content for the first time and the first and most important thing I want to say is that your avatar looks awesome really cool! It is something I have never seen anybody else do and I like it I might stick around for a while.
Why does Repunzel have long blond hair in this movie?
In Tangled wasn’t it cut off to a really short length, and then remained a brownish color?
New Addiction+ What’s wrong with that? Her long hair is what makes her Repunzel
The characters in the movie are literally the embodiment of their media selves, not them from the movies necessarily. Disney sells Rapunzel as having hair, so thus her appearance here must match up.
*cough cough Tangled: The Series.*
Tangled the Series is a midquel, it takes place before Tangled Ever After, in which her hair is short again. She's gonna lose her hair again by the end of the series.
i don't see anything wrong. it was a joke, i feel like people find way to much to complain about and get way easily offended.
I just think too much attention is going to probably a five minute or less sequence
It's almost as if analysing is pointless going by that logic.
Sigh. They just couldn't resist that line about the other studio. Well, here's hoping your concerns are unfounded 😃
I thought the delivery of her lines and her movements were cute. I guess it's funny to listen to excited scottish accents. It was a little weird that they made it seem like no one could understand her, but I hope she'll have more going for her than a "haha look how silly her accent is".
That's not the Norwegian flag...
3:08 ummmm thats the Dutch flag not the Norwegian flag
Read the description, the pinned post and watch the follow up video.
3:09 that’s not the flag of Norway!...
Read the pinned post and the description.
I found ur channel by the video that the talko or the things posted and it was about them roasting Merida. I’m a new subscriber 💖
...but this movie isn’t even about Merida?? All of the portrayals of the characters are meant to be over exaggerated and unrealistic. Like Pocahontas’ hair flying in the wind. Or aurora asleep all the time. They don’t have enough screen time to fully realize every single character.
So why make Merida's joke her nationality?
Because it was a highlight of her character. It would be out of place to have her shooting arrows in the middle of the room or something. It's funny. It's comedy. And it's not meant to be taken seriously. XD (And this is coming from someone who comes from a scottish family lol.)
I remember the days when people don't get offended by jokes. Turns out that was before TH-cam got bought by Google.
People get over it, if you have a problem with it then don't see the movie.
This isn't about discrimination if it was you'd of commented on the other clearly nationality driven comments about the other princesses or gotten any of your facts like the Ariel or the Polynesian flag right if that was your actual concern . No this was about you getting mad at a joke directed towards your nationality and felt you need to scream prejudice and say that a perfectly balanced character is ruined just cause you got mad. This entire video is petty.
Holy shit it’s been forever since I’ve seen your channel, last time I did you ended up inspiring me to create the first project I’ve ever actually finished lmao
Yeah, I agree, but to be fair, she wasn't the only one with some fun poked at her (albeit on the nose as it is and wish it wasn't a thing)
Snow White's my favorite, and I'm hyped to see this movie for the Princesses, but in the first trailer, it looked at the end of it like she was certainly going to be the butt of jokes for her mannerisms and distinct singing voice. Like she's the weird one, the cloudcuckoolander. Even Merida gives her quite the annoyed "WTH?" face when she pops in singing. I'm sincerely hoping they don't poke fun at her for this the whole time, making it, as you said, her only characteristic.
And then, in a visual way, I feared about what they did to Cinderella. Her redesign is so jarring. Her 2-D hair, I don't know, is softer and while she may have bangs, it's held in nicely by a headband or tiara or tucked away. Her new 3-D hair in the trailer, they give her these weird bangs and give her quite the snapped expression when she *breaks her glass slipper* to threaten Vanellope with. Color me worried at that point. Thankfully, when she calmed down with her mice, she looked a lot better. Also, in the promo art of her in her casual/pajama outfit, they softened her up and she looks a lot closer to her original design with her ponytail. I hope they can kind of keep her closer to her classic look than farther.
(and there were small little jabs made at the others, sure, but idk, these 3 just seemed to get it more, and more a punchline than the rest)
As for back to Merida. Not just poking fun at her accent, but it also looked like, at first, that Merida was also just going to look or be the angry princess the whole time. And then the accent joke came in with the 2nd trailer. (And I agree, were they making fun of a different raced/accentedprincess, would it have been seen just as funny? Idk, I didn't find it super funny either. Just an easy joke.) I'm reeeally hoping they give her better representation in the movie too, because she really does deserve it. They all deserve to not be one-note jokes
Everyone judges me for having a Tom - boy Scottish princess as my favourite so I have to pretend that it's aurora (It's not) And I feel bad. She has a lot to offer to the story yet people don't give her proper respect and make jokes that they think are "Funny" when they're really disrespectful. Tsk tsk tsk
@madmunchkin maddie can you review the dark crystle
I only really review animated things but I will certainly consider it if I ever decide to start reviewing live action movies. :)
I'm not sure I'd consider Dark Crystal as being "live-action"... It's animated puppetry. I consider it animation.
ok thats fine buuuuuuut what about another move
The Dark Crustle.
The joke is probably that Merida has an accent meanwhile, all the other Disney princesses have American accents despite being from a completely different country of origin. It's just a small joke, everyone knows they're in the wrong, it's not the end of the world. Hell, you seem to have offended quite a bit of people with the mistakes you made in this video. Maybe the writers thought it would be funny and will later see that the joke was a "mistake" to learn from. Fucking hell.
Zubbs+ But Tiana is American.
X⃟x⃟SnowX⃟x⃟ I know. She has an American accent doesn't she? She sounds like the rest of them.
I'm salty that Disney was going to make their own version of Jack and the Bean Stalk but instead they cancelled it and replaced it with a giant advertisement. |:(
There is also the whole issue of time as these stories are separated by centuries and cultures and languages change, die out, and adapt in ways way too diverse to realistically try to replicate. Also since Pocahontas was a member of the Pamunkey tribe, her dialect would be from before the English arrived and as such probably sound nothing like her version in movies.
Can I just say, Disney changed Merida's accent completely for this joke. If you watched the first movie you'd know that she spoke in a very Posh Scottish accent that was entirely understandable. In this movie they made her talk fast, gave her a thick accent just to make a mockery out of her for it. I myself have a thick Scottish accent so I'm not saying that this accent is bad or not how a normal Scot would speak. But it's not how Merida spoke at all. Disney wouldn't even be able to include this joke if they didn't change her accent. So they just made a fool out of Merida basically.
She literally talked for one clip and it was just her ranting. You don't know how she talks normally.
Considering Merida is my favorite Disney princess I'd hate seeing her reduced to one running joke. So I hope that the joke in the trailer isn't too overused, or they at least show her character instead of just a running gag.
I mean, if done right running jokes can be funny. As long as there's still a character there and not just the joke, and its not overused.
Ravenwish3 yeah I hope she gets more screen time and actual understandable lines aside from this line for comic relief.
Raine 5247+ Im pretty sure she isn’t. None of the princesses are because the movie isn’t about them, this just a small scene with them. I don’t know why everyone excepts them to be in every single point of the movie just because of this. So keep wishin
Raine 5247+ If you want more representation for Scottish people, go somewhere else, don’t count on Disney to do that for you
I mean, now days SJW isn't actually someone who says things like ''hey if you didn't said that or did that the movie, game or series you're doing might be better''. No, the term is for people who get offended by even the tiniest thing like the cats from lady and the tramp, the crows for dumbo and even someone saying that what they're doing its rong. That's why Tracer from Overwatch has now an unatural figure, that's why an animator from Disney got kicked out, that's why even saying ''stay healthy'' its ofensive now, even Mohana isn't in the Disney Princesses franchise because Disney is afraid of being backfired by these people. For how things are going, even saying ''HI'' could send you to jail in the future.
Moana was made to show 'even if you are a girl, dont be defined by 'princess' times have changed, not disney pleasing the feminazis. Ontop of that, you could take the crowsas a racial stereotype, but it was something that passed back then and not now, it's not like Dumbo will be re animated/changed or anything.
well actually there is a Live action movie of Dumbo coming out. And it's not like Mulan or Pocahontas didn't fight or anything (Mulan isn't even a princess by definition and she still is in the cast of princcesses). Look, I don't mind seeing a girl being a hero, half of my favorite characters are female, but when an company starts screaming *HEY GIRLS ARE BETTER THAN BOYS* you know something its rong. And going back to the point, if Mulan is in the cast even tho she isn't a princess (she's actually a warrior, and a great one) why isn't Mohana in it even if she is in fact a princess? Answer: Those SJW dudes who started screaming ''Cultural apropiation'' on Mohana (I'm not even making that up, that actually happend)
It's less a joke about her nationality than about the fact that of 30+ princesses (11 officially) spanning 81 years and many different countries of origin, only ONE has an accent anything other than American English, and that same one is the ONLY Pixar princess.
Now, we can call this whatever we want, and say it's offensive to Scotts all we like, but if we're being honest here, it's nothing more than a standard 4th wall joke. There are princesses from all around the world, and yet, magically, they all speak with the same dialect. So, with this in mind, Merida may as well be speaking an alien language. It's still english, but spoken in a way none of them have ever heard before.
Now, if it had been any of the ethnic princesses who had the accent, this probably wouldn't have still happened, but that's kind of besides the point. After all, there's only one Black princess, One Asian princess, One Native American princess, One Middle Eastern princess, and One Hawaiian princess. Any jokes about them kind of have to be handled with extreme care.
But, back to the main point of this comment, sure, Merida is the only Scottish princess, and sure, the only one with an accent, and sure, because of that she's the butt of a stupid joke. But you have to look at the CONTEXT of the joke before pointing fingers and waving signs. She's the closest thing to the real world that any princess has ever gotten, and to the rest of them, she may as well be from another studio...
Greetings from America, I've watched some of your videos before and I recently subscribed to your channel. I think I got an idea for you. When you make that future movie review of Brave, would it be okay if you could go into detail on how the movie could've been better if it were more like an epic fantasy movie and how it compares to Wreck it Ralph in terms of which movie was more "Oscar worthy"? I would appreciate it. Anyways, good job on this video, Mad Munchkin!
I live in Scotland
Me too-
I envy you =')
I'm so sick and tired of these over-sensitive pixar fans. Honestly.
Hi...what?
I believe that it is the duty of an analyst to pay attention to details like this. The term 'Just a joke' or 'just a movie' is a flippant term used to make people who do read more into films beyond the surface feel bad for doing what they love and pointing put things that others don't see, or rather refuse to see. Saying a movie is just for kids shouldn't mean it gets a gree pass. Children are easily influenced and notice more than we give them credit for. I did say in the video that I do get the joke and that, yes, it's just a movie. But if we are to just dismiss media as simply entertainment, we become oblivious to the influence it has on society, especially on children.
I think this is kinda looking too deep into the movie 😅 it's a kid's movie and most kids wont notice it. In fact they would laugh at it. It needs to be let go because I dont think it was what Disney was trying to do, they were just trying to make it enjoyable for the kids.
I think we all need to remember that, this is in fact a spin off 9f a Disney film that is actually a Disney film much like Dead pool while being in the same universe as XMen isnt actually directly in relationship to xmen other than honorable mentions and a character here of there. This movie is a satire film that is based in a virtual adaptation of modern social internet spaces. It's not in an actual Disney princess film. so upholding Disney princess standards doesn't necessarily need apply to this film. Wreck it Ralph had a lot of characters in it but I wasn't expecting it to be a street fighter film, or a halo film... My expectations were it was a story about Ralph and his struggles of being misunderstood. This movie seems like he is now taking his adventures to new levels now that he k owe who he is. personally I don't think this film is gonna be as good as the first. and in my honest opinion, Merida was and is my favorite princess because she's in my eyes the coolest :D
its been months since i last watched a mad munchkin vid, and its still just as perfect.
SJWs are so triggered by everything, that any legitimate problems brought up are now seen as SJW. SJWs have also ruined used of words such as racist, problematic, toxic, inclusive, diverse (list goes on). Yet another reason to hate SJWs.
I enjoyed this video, it was actually thought out, raised an actual argument and had good observations.
So it was nothing like an SJW talking point.
I thought it was so racist when she spoke in a heavy Irish accent- if that weren't enough they added "We don't know what she's saying- she's from the other studio."
She's SCOTTISH, not Irish.
1. Merida is Scottish not Irish
2. It wouldn’t be racist because Scottish is not a race
I don't think it's racist that she spoke in a heavy accent because some people do have heavy accents naturally, I think the issue came up is when they said they couldn't understand her
You mean discriminative, not racist. Scottish is a nationality, NOT a race.
Holy shit she has an actual Scottish accent voiced by a Scottish voice actress and you think it's racist? FFS she even speaks authentic Scottish slang words. WTF is wrong with you people?
Stooooppp...don't draw conclusions before seeing the film. Ugghh...
Hi. That's what trailers are for.
If you judge everything on the surface level you won't ever think critically. Wait until the film is out. If your theory still remains true that Wreck it Ralph is destroying the integrity of the Pixar princess. Then fine, we still have to wait to draw conclusions. What about Aroura who they made a narcoleptic, or Snow White they made a ditz? It's viewing the princesses in a satirical manor. It's intended to be over the top, and poke fun at princess tropes. Merida will still be the same hyperactive rebellious red head we know and love. So, don't be so quick to attack things...you'll be a far less negative person if you do. Also, I think the moment they started plastering Merida dolls with glitter was where they went wrong.
I never said that the film will destroy the integrity of Merida.I But what we have seen so far, it seems that she is the only Princess who is being made fun of because of her nationality. Making a joke of a character's Nationality is NOT the same as making fun of a character trait. Because nationality is NOT a character trait. Yes, it's satire. That doesn't mean it gets a free pass for making a joke out of Merida's accent. I
As for calling me a negative person, I don't believe I am. I am pointing out something that most people did not see on the surface. That is what an analyst does. I believe that it is the duty of an analyst to pay attention to details like this. The term 'Just a joke' or 'just a movie' is a flippant term used to make people who do read more into films beyond the surface feel bad for doing what they love and pointing put things that others don't see, or rather refuse to see. I did say in the video that I do get the joke and that, yes, it's just a movie. But if we are to just dismiss media as simply entertainment, we become oblivious to the influence it has on society, especially on children.
"Yes, it's satire. That doesn't mean it gets a free pass for making a joke out of Merida's accent." Maybe it does have exactly this free card, because it´s satire?
That scene and line is so over the top, it have satire written all over it. And no, i do not think, that it´s about her nationality, its about her being created by a different studio, using her accent to point that out and exaggerate this in the most hilarious way possible.
Personally i found it pretty awesome and funny, and thats coming from a person, where everyone else in my country know exactly, from which region i come, as soon as i open my mouth, and nowadays, this region isn´t much loved by the rest of my country for some people doing stupid things. But i don´t care much about that (and most jokes are really funny, even the rough ones:) ), and i doubt, Merida would get worked up about this joke either.I would say, maybe you react a little bit to sensitive or interpret it the wrong way.
So basically because it's satire it gets a free pass and I'M the one with the problem. Great. Thanks for that.
I was pretty young when Brave came out, and Merida has always been my favourite Disney princess. I even went as her to fastelavn (a danish costume holiday that doesn’t exist in most other countries), and I still have the dress. I was so angry when I saw a doll in the store that was supposed to be her in a light blue sleeveless dress with glitter all over it, and with perfect princess curls instead of her normal, incontrollably wild hair.
Please don’t ruin her even more, Disney.
Merida’s accent would be funny if it wasn’t a Scottish one. If she was if she had any strong accent outside of the American accent then it would probably still be made fun of