The Soviet Superman movie is better than you think
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Superman is known as the most American superhero and one of the most famous fictional characters of all time. But what if... Superman was from the Soviet Union? In today's video we're going to review Superman: Red Son - a 2020 DC movie about a Russian Superman, who grew up in the USSR and became the dictator of Soviet Russia. The film takes place during an alternate history Cold War and also features Stalin, Gulags and a Soviet Batman. This all might sound insane, but believe me - the Soviet Superman movie is actually surprisingly decent. So, let's check out Red Son and review it from a Russian point of view and see what it's all about! Hopefully you guys enjoy and sub for more thx xoxo
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People being an product of their envirement is a socialists take on reality.
This is not true because that speaks against the idea that people are individuals.
For instance, are you a hardcore russian commie from growing up in Russia? Does every one that has an alcoholic father turn out to be a drunkard?
"Red Son is proof that anyone can be affected by their background .....which is why I am pleased that our sponsor is Raid Shadow Legends..." (Sorry...just could not help myself) lol.
Completely flipped when I saw u did this ! Amazing
Yeah it's like this to this day when i debate many Z Russian people:
1. "You can't blame Russia for Soviet Union - Russia is not soviet union" (they often follow that up with saying that Stalin was Georgian while Khrushchev, Brezhnev and Chernenko were Ukrainian - not Russian)
At the same time the very same people:
2. When you criticize Soviet Union - say you are attacking Russia... (same as the propaganda people shown from Russian tv in this video)
They don't see the inconsistency. If they want to distance themselves from Soviet Union i am happy to oblige. There is no original Soviet sin that Russians are born with. But what's really silly is when people do both 1. and 2. together and don't see the problem...
Well, no, diplomacy was canceled as they say. It creates further tensions and destabilizes many countries in a dangerous manner. I have "petty" problems, but I still end up in the fish filter, so save me and then flush me down the toilet. Most of us ordinary people don't have that many moves to make, but the sick and twisted people want us to do what we can't. I don't know what makes them feel so special about asking us questions in our sleep. They make the answers their own (unless I went totally insane, as you should hear my confessions) Yup. Who is riding on my back now?
The swedish name for "Superman" is "Stålmannen" Which translates into "Steel man" Which is also what "Stalin" means in russian
@spindletea I dont actually speak swedish. what do yuo want?
@@debrickashaw9387 He means, "who cares (about you)"
Yeah in English they call him the man of steel aswell Superman should just be Superman in any language though as he chose America because it’s superior to all other countries
Superman is known as the man of steel
@spindletea who cares what you think? 0 likes & 0 bitches
What a wasted opportunity to call Soviet Batman, Blyatman.
I was waiting for it!
In that case, Superman should've been Cykaman.
@@Hammi4Real
Yes he should have
Damnit, thought i was original 😭
@@Hammi4Real no, sukaman
What if Superman was crash landed in Britain.
“Superman: Bloody hell do you mean I’m a superhero?”
LOL
What if Superman landed in Germany: "WIIRRRRR MÜSSEN DIE BIERPRRRREISE REGULIEREN!"
What if Superman had crashed in Australia: *insert Emus eating Superman after brutally murdering him*
What if Superman had crash landed in Switzerland: "Stay away from my Chocolate du huere Schofseckel!"
@@MominEnjoyer I the icon of neutrality, if you enter our airspace, your plane will meet a sad fate.
@@MominEnjoyer The Swiss Superman will also ensure that no Muslim Minarets are to be built on the country's skyline.😂
He'd love drinking tea and curry. Also he'd have bad teeth
The reason the gulag was underground is because it was lined with Lede so Superman couldn’t find it or even know what it was.
Love your videos
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Bro got W vids
It's nice to see Roman being able to wind down a bit and talk about something he’s excited to, it seems he's had nothing but bad things to talk about since everything happened
Yeah, but he stepped up in some really big ways. I went from being indifferent to a total fan after a couple of those difficult ones.
@@Stephen85 true af, after his move to Georgia all I can do is support him by watching his vids I’m to broke to donate though
@@cjplays7727 being subscribed and watching all the content until the end, along with subscribing, liking, and commenting still helps out a lot.
*Watching this video, I thought I was in a parallel universe for some reason. It felt so different from the 99.9% of stuff Roman upload. I really enjoyed it and I want more. :)*
Yes to all on this thread :) We've all been talking about little besides the war for so long now, it even gets stressful for those of us watching from this side of the pond. I have to put the war away for a few weeks bc I fell and hurt myself. I think I may have fractured a rib. Crying causes me excruciating pain, now. So no more sad movies, abandoned kittens, or war stories for me. I hate that it has to be that way :( But NSFW's (Yeah I call him that bc I'm too lazy to look up what he actually calls himself :P) change of topic focus came at the perfect time. This is one of his best from 2022 :)
I love how Luthor’s Superman is so aggressively American.
Just imagining the character being taken to a school to drum up patriotism or something, barging into a science class like "How dare you teach these children metric! You'll teach the AMERICAN measurement system, like the Christian god intended!"
I thought that Superior Man was supposed to be a Trump parody.
@@emmabedlam Freedom fries become standard unit of measurement.
@@Awestefeld6612 This film is an adaptation of a line of comics from *2003* just fyi.
(Yes I know some of the animated DC comic adaptations do have changes from the original stories, both big, large, and “let’s make Barbara Gordon and Batman have sex on a roof in The Killing Joke just because we can”, but still)
Also why would they make fun of Trump when that part of the film takes place in the 1950’s?
He's so aggressively patriotic that I'm not sure if it's parody or unironic
To be fair he WAS treated like the man's son and was seen as a type of the second messiah, so I guess it wasn't that unexpected that they submitted to his rule so quickly. Plus, they did mention multiple minor rebellions being subdued so I guess it was close to what would have happened.
Indeed, if an average mustached man from Georgia could create this image of omniscient punishment and cult of personality imagine what his adopted son that LITERALLY FLIES AND SHOOTS MURDER BEAMS OUT HIS EYES would get.
Not only that, the guy who surrendered to him immediatly was one of Stalin's chief of security, which means he had the status, ressources and power to smooth things out for Superman. (Also unironic big brain move to pledge yourself immediatly to the guy who can destroy your capital in less than an hour. Firing guns would have not gone well)
Hes also fucking superman in Soviet Russia, i dont think they have the means to fight superman
@@slightlycynical4308 Nope. Took several years for Luthor to figure out red sunlight and share it with Batman.
dude hes superman. they couldnt rebel if they tried
I assume Brainiac was controlling all the alien technology and so when it was destroyed, nobody really knew how to make the tech function without him
Lex Luthor is always a villain at heart, & more importantly, anti-Superman. The writers weren't trying to promote American propaganda, but how Lex Luthor would look to take out Superman while also trying to expand his power & control ("global United States").
Regardless, they promote American propaganda, they don't even question communism as an ideology or political system, they only talk about Gul,ag and brainwashing, but not why communism is bad. It looked like the opposite of Soviet propaganda I saw as a child, but essentially the same.
The problem is, lex was the one that got the final moral win at the end, and it made the ending out to be this big American circle jerk when the rest of the movie was asking interesting questions
@@hyperx72 it didn't really ask any questions, all that was said about communism can apply to any dictatorship (prison camps and brainwashing) or even democracy if those things are hidden from the public eye. They didn't even get into what communism or capitalism means. Any time someone mentioned inequality under capitalism, another character started talking about something else. Communism as a political ideology wasn't even touched.
@@analogueapples Also true, I swear Americans are allergic to that
Lies again? Nashville Dallas Black Red
Superman kills Stalin*
Soviet people: "Thx Superman, you saved us"
Superman: "I wouldn't say saved, I would say, under new management."
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Ok tytan
Why no comments
Lol
"new management, same friendly service"
Actually the wast majority of the soviet people had a positive image about Stalin. So soviet people : That monster killed our dear leader......
When I was 4 years old in 1958 and living in Los Angeles I used to watch the Superman TV show on a 20 centimeter set in the afternoon. My dad looked a lot like actor George Reeves, who played Superman. It was very confusing to me when my father came home from work each day.
That is so funny. What a wholesome story!
This has to be the most adorable story of the year.
Whoa! Cool.
This comment gifted love back to my soul. Thank you! ♥️
@@Mailb0x1 its most likely fake considering how much these kind of comments exploded in numbers in the past years, 68 year olds dont look at this kind of stuff and are plagued with the red scare in gen
Soviet Superman was a lot more hardcore than the original, but he was still the same man at heart. 😍
The thing that was wierd to me is that Superman right away accepted what Lois Lane told him. You'd think that for super soldier or just soldier that's been indoctrinated since he was a child, he wouldn't believe her right away.
Wasn't one of the other bs powers that the lopped onto superman during the 80s-2000s that he can see the truth in people's hearts of some bs.
@@Aztesticals I think he could see the bodyly reaction you have when lying. Heart rate, body temperature and so on. Things normal people only see with measuring devices.
@@IrradiatedFeline And he couldn't see those bodily reactions before, when Stalin and his goons lied to him?
@@mori1bund maybe he did see... but did also want to believe it was a obvious lie, fooling himself until he could no longer deny it.
@@IrradiatedFeline Like polygraphs?
Batman's gulag backstory reminds me a lot of the canonical backstory of Heavy from TF2, where it's revealed his father was a White Army counterrevolutionary which caused child Heavy, his mother, and his sisters to be forced into a gulag for an indefinite amount of time, until around the time he became a teenager in which he singlehandedly organized a mass revolt at the compound and tortured all guards to death before escaping with his family
I just played tf2 get out of my head
@@drillbitz2816 No, and Amogus.
@@normanclatcher based
@@normanclatcher 😱
Yeah it does! Also I like looking if the lore of Heavy from tf2, He's actually kind of interesting.
Imagine is Superman landed in Germany and Hitler raised him. That would be more insane then the Red son alternitive history
Technically German Superman does exist.
And he's black
no himmler raised superman is better
Still not as horrendous, wicked and disturbing as Josef Mengele raising him. 💀💀💀
I think there's a comic about that, that's just disturbing.
23:10 As an American I find this hilarious lmao. Our expansionism at its smallest
Well said on colonization and imperialism being bad regardless if it's Russia or the US. This movie went absolutely wild in the end
Yep, free will beat them both.
The United States always gets away with it.
@@AlyphRat Russia just keep overestimate itself when their government turn their tax dollar into vodka, yachts, super cars, and mansions overseas. And you still defend that system
@@kevinw4267
I'm not defending anything, I just find it amusing and hypocritical how the US can do multiple attrocities and coups worldwide over the decades and still get away with it. No sanctions, no bombings, no one gets charged for war crimes, nothing.
@@AlyphRat it’s called “have the cake and eat it too” check it out in South Park
@2:57 "The fact the Stalin exists [...] in an American superhero movie is both insane to me and also very funny"
Hold my beer. I once saw in Tokyo a Japanese musical where Stalin was also a character of the story and played by a young Japanese woman! (The troupe was Takarasuka)
OMG I wanna see that musical
If you look at the history of Takarazuka, there is almost not a single franchise or historical event they will not do (and of course, everyone is depicted by a woman). They have done everything from Phoenix Wright, Tale of Genji, Oceans 11, Shakespeare, Farewell my Concubine, the life of James Dean and so much more. They are a national institution and a deep rabbit hole. You could make a whole TH-cam channel just explaining their lore and never run out of stuff to cover.
I don't care for musical theater, but my wife does and the way she describes it makes it sound like Takarazuka is bigger than all of Broadway within Japan. There isn't a parallel in the west.
Some people were asking for them to be banned in the pre-war era because they were so concerned that it was tempting young women towards lesbianism.
@@DavidJBurbridge Thanks for your comment! Takarazuka really has my interest now.
@@DavidJBurbridge But the troupes who were played by only men werent gay? That is some strange logic.
@@Valkbg It's because of how the fans were acting. There were fan clubs of women who would write love letters to the otokoyaku (actresses playing men). So Takarazuka banned them from getting personally involved with fans, and emphasized that the women will usually get married and retire from the group at a fairly young age.
This was back in the 1930s when Japanese people were at their most repressed.
And regarding all-male... that actually did get banned in a sense. They banned men and boys portraying women in 1652 after some brawls led to kabuki getting a bad reputation and getting criticized for bad morals, so the shogunate cracked down on it.
People: superman, you saved us
Superman: I didn't save you we saved us
Yes, comrade
Comrade
Da
Indeed comrade
"Stars and Stripes beats Hammer and Sickle. LOOK IT UP!!!"
-TF2 SOLDIER
"Batman doesn't kill. Batman's C4 explosives do."
Batman doesn't kill, this shitty adaptation i wont even call batman does tho.
That's what I thought back in the Arkham games.
Republicans be like:
Reminds me of the college humor Batman joke "They're not dead, they're sleeping."
@@TheFirstCurse1😐
They completely cut the ending, which was arguably the best part though. It actually gives a double meaning to the title "Red son".
The ending of the comic made me laugh a bit. It just supposed that an American one-world government suddenly led to a literal billion years of utopia. And what's more ironic is that the "utopia" Luthor built was not that different from what Superman was trying to do.
@@Gordon_Freeman_PhD It's not that alone, it's specifically the part about Krytpn being future earth, and our own sun going Red.
Also explains why a supposed alien looks human. He's not in that story.
@@Gordon_Freeman_PhD "Why is your American government so successful?"
"Luthorism, son."
@@XzaroX Not to mention the link there to Superman and Luthor beyond them being at odds with each other. Plus didn't Luthor's government become strong due to using ideas Superman had and whatever there was salvaged from Braniac?
Did they send Superman back to save them?
This version of batman didn't merely adopt the dark. He was born in it.
Molded by it
he didn't see the light until he was already a batman
By then, it was nothing to him but BLINDING!
i'd say this version of superman was lucky
Superman and Batman's fate would've tied together either way. Like Joker and Robin
The most unrealistic thing in this movies is that the soldiers/guards actually went into stalin's room. Bro literalt died irl bcs he killed anyone who came into his room.😅
You literally almost killed me with your “finally no more kpop” line. As I was eating and burst out laughing which promptly turned in to choking! 😂
The book is way better I'd say but I do like how the film keeps the same themes and nuances. How Superman, despite fighting for the Soviet Union under Stalin, is himself still a good person. And when he does become the leader, whenever he does do tyrannical things it's usually coming from the right place in his heart which makes this version pretty morally gray. Also the costume designs are pretty great especially Russian Batman
EDIT: I think all of Roman's criticisms of the story are addressed in the book. For example the story doesn't end with somehow the Soviet Union collapsing despite being a utopia while Lex Luthor uses America to rebuild it. Instead Luther combines the American and Soviet societies and develops new philosophy under a single world government. It is technically a global US but it doesn't seem like capitalism in that the heads of government are people like poets, philosophers, artists, engineers etc
Russian Batman, excuse me if I’m wrong but isn’t that just Blyatman? I mean unless if Blyatman is completely different property. I apologize.
@@klutzspecter3470 some fans refer to this version as Batmanov which I think sounds pretty cool
They completely cut the ending, which was arguably the best part though. It actually gives a double meaning to the title "Red son".
Yeah, THE UNITED STATES is like that the United (of all) States on Earth. Nowadays US is synonymous with USA but in its word, it isn't. But maybe it would be more clear if it used United Nations.
Прошу прощения что на русском. Но мне кажется что костюм бетмена все же очень странный! Он скорей бы был волком.
Wonder Woman, particularly in the early years, did have a problem. Her people safely hidden away from all worldwide problems and then she goes to the world of Men to critique. However even if she's a bit one note here, she serves a purpose in my eyes.
She's what Svetlana would have been had that childhood friend survived to the end, to see how Superman would be.
He had a good heart, right until the end, but politics and the world shaped him into something different.
Also Wonder Woman alternate self shows what she would have become if Steve, Superman and Batman never opened her eyes and were shells of theirselves in this world.
I always took what Wonder Woman said to him as pointing out that Superman isn't above the human men he is subjugating.
You did not mention this, but...
I always assumed the inspiration for Red Son is that the name 'Stalin' means "Steel".
Clearly, having one Man of Steel meet the other was just destiny.
Red Son was an amazing short series in the comics. I'm glad it's finally received a film/animated version.
A film that it the retention pond on the wrong side of the Washington monument in one scene and then on the right side in the next.
Don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure this movie is at least a couple of years old. Still great and a fun spin on the concept but certainly not a recent development
Superior Man saying “I am truth, I am Justice, I am the American way” is actually a direct reference to Superman’s motto in the comics. He represents truth, Justice, and the American Way.
Also Superior Man corroding and becoming unstable is because he’s this universe’s version of Bizarro which is the imperfect clone of Superman. Because I’m the comics Luthor couldn’t clone Superman very well because kryptonian DNA was too complex
Yeah, that wasn’t racist, not sure how he seriously got that.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 more like nationalism if anything from my understanding
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 He's referencing Superior Man's saying "America First," because that's the name of an extremist white nationalist political conference.
@@taqnology it’s ridiculous and ignorant of him because “America First” is a slogan used by many various American organizations and groups of political thought.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 I mean he's blatantly a reference to hawkish McCarthyism with his attitude. Not exactly racist but definitely ultranationalist/xenophobic. If you saw his character and thought he was totally normal, then you might just be a nationalist lol.
As a fan of the comic I felt they really botched the ending which was so iconic.
I hated the very end. Better without the time loop.
The original comic ending was poetic and haunting.
It felt like every change from the comic didn't work
What was the comic ending
@@jenniferdunstan5065 earth turned into krypton as a result of luther's globalisation stuff over the course of billions of years and the cycle of superman starts anew
I think one reason Superman didn't know about the gulags in this universe is they hid them underground in a lead lined facility. Doesn't fully explain it, but it's a decent explanation.
Guess you could say he's Russian to save the day
😆😆
if he was russian to save the day then i would have to accuse him of nationalism
Zinger
I see you are Putin some references in your comment
Actually it's way funnier, because he fallen into Ukraine. So he's Ukrainian to save the day.
I didn't like how they changed their personalities from the comic:
- Batman did actually give ten minutes to the museum visitors to escape. You cannot gather support from the public by ruthlessly murdering them, after all.
- Wonder Woman was the one crushing on Superman. The fact he never noticed was a plot point: Supes was removed from humanity, seeing them as "things" in need of fixing rather people in need of help. Luthor broke his resolve just by pointing that.
- And Lex of course was a megalomaniac bastard who only wanted to defeat Superman because he couldn't tolerate being less than him. The long term consequences of his victory is the biggest plot twist of the story.
Never read the comic, but, based on what you've wrote, it already looks miles better than this shitty movie with white and good Lex and black and wrong Superman, dumb feminist WW and crazy terrorist Batman.
@@Andromort there's an actual fanmade movie based on the comic way before dc even considered making their own one and honestly it looks more faithful to the comic artistically
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@@Andromort The original 3 comic series WAS an imperial shyttonne better than this movie "adaption"
@@Andromortwdym “black superman”?
@@Andromort you good bro?
Fun fact: The name Stalin also means "Man of steel"
👁👄👁
Coincidence? I think not
Interesting 👍
That's actually why I was interested in this comic in the first place as we were learning about the effects of the Russian Revolution and Stalins takeover on WW2.In fact that fact is even mentioned in the comic at Stalins funeral.
Fun fact: Stalin actual name was Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili from Georgia.
Most Stalin fanboys do not know his actual name, what should say you a lot.
On top of that his common depiction is an actor Mikheil Gelovani.
Love that he used the scene from rasputin vs stallin in ERB at 3:22
I just assumed that the soviet soldiers kneeled out of fear. I mean if some demi-human or deity who is un-killable just killed a "Normally untouchable person" you'd probably prostrate yourself in hopes they would leave you alone. Also Superman was giving his abilities to the state for years, so maybe the soviet union had skyscrapers.
Even in real life they had some of the tallest buildings lol 😂
That's true.
It's mostly out of fear rather than reapect.
@@0bserver416 Pretty sure most just saluted for both respect and fear. In this case they kneeled because they completely shit their pants seeing a supposed human shoot lasers out his eyes
Fully believe this. I mean, how stupid would you be to shoot the man knowing bullets can't hurt him?
On the contrary, the Soviet Union had skyscrapers if Stalin had survived
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the comic book itself was published 1 and 1\2 years after the 9-11 2001 attacks. which means that it was written, drawn and edited etc shortly after the attacks. it's crazy plot all makes "sense" when that timeline is taken into account.
I don't think the plot of the comic was THAT crazy.
What I regret most is that *_Red Son_* didn't open with a scene of the spaceship zooming in toward Earth . . . passing over Kansas . . . and passing right on by to come down in Ukraine.
@@kasualmechanic4854 Calm down will ya?
@@kasualmechanic4854 My man, that's just where it landed. Not everything is linked to current events.
@@kasualmechanic4854this movie came out before the war started? And is based off a comic that came out before the russian incursion into crimea?
@@scyfrix .... well I'm a world grade retard. Original comment was pretty vague, like at this point I cant tell if its satire, irony or a legit comment
@@helix5441 too deep into ye propaganda machine I guess
My mom is a stereotypical Russian boomer who claims to be a “Soviet Woman” she liked the movie and said it was a “very intelligent film” but she didn’t like the ending 🤣
In the _Superman: Red Son_ comic, Superman landed in Ukraine in 1938 (Which in real life was the year Superman was first published).
There were a couple of differences like:
-Superman was aware of the purges and gulag system. He disapproved of it but did nothing to stop it during the Stalin years and ended it after taking power.
-Lana was never killed let alone in a gulag.
-Stalin was assassinated by poison and it was implied that it was ordered by Pyotr Roslov who is Stalin’s illegitimate son and head of the Cheka (Pytor Roslov is a deviation of Peter Ross, Clark Kent's childhood best friend from Smallville in the regular comics who later became a detective, CIA agent, and Vice President of the United States under President Lex Luthor.)
-Pyotr Roslov gunned down Batman's parents in front of him.
-Superior Man/Bizarro died attempting to rescue lives in danger.
-Superman refused to kill anyone because “That was Comrade Stalin’s way not mine.”
-Wonder Woman had an unrequited love for Superman who never returned her affections.
-Batman would give warnings and countdowns to allow people to escape the sites of his bombings. (Thus kind of preserving both Superman's and Batman's no killing rule.)
-Nixon was assassinated instead of JFK. JFK also divorced Jackie and married Marylin Monroe.
And finally there was a twist ending that revealed that Krypton is a future Utopian Earth where human physiology was changed to be superhuman due to the work of Lex Luthor (Who took many of Superman’s ideas.) Superman turned out to be a descendant of Lex Luthor and Lois Lane who was sent back in time to save Earth/Krypton from its fate.
I think the comic is much better
waite they turned wunder wuman lesbian im starting to hate this adaptation
@@ronaldarnyek3659 Homie if you think there's something weird about women getting down with other women on an island that's only populated by women I don't know what to tell you lmao
@@NaatClark Word! Bro.Word lolz.
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I thought it was THE last great graphic comic of the modern age... Superman, Batman NOR Luthor saw themselves as 'hero' or 'villain'... They simply were. Politics were the real evil motive(s) in the story. Simply fantastic 'Twilight Zone' ending too!!! NEVER saw it coming!!!
Yes, it was really complex and nuanced, right up until it completely changed a major character and threw everything it had done out to just say "American Imperialism is good."
@@discordlexia2429 Imperialism is a good thing though as long as it's not the "kill, maim, burn" imperialism, it's as natural to the human species no different to any other. No matter what countries exist or at what technological level humanity is at someone has to hold the biggest stick.
That and you have imperialism to thank for the average development of the world (just look at the history of Japan if you think otherwise) and the partial ending of slavery for most of the world. Other than Africa and the Middle East because unlike what the NA "educated" think, it wasn't Europe that started the slave trade. Values aren't and wont be adopted out of nowhere even if they are the best available values. It's not like Qatar, North Korea, CCP controlled China will every willingly stop being demonstrable hellholes so much like how a criminal needs to be forcibly stopped so too does nations. If you think otherwise then be gay in Qatar, simply exist in North Korea or be a Uighur or Falun Gong practitioner in CCP controlled China. I point those three out because like the German National Socialists, all three have concentration camps and much like the Nazis only imperialism can stop such a thing.
Yes it sucks that the US is the best option but it's still the best option. If you wish otherwise then better yourself, truly. If you are North American then truly better the US. But sadly most peoples' idea of "bettering" includes being fascist while unironically calling themselves anti-fascist.
@@KopitioBozynski Nah lol
@@ganryusasaki You got anything to actually say or are you just another "muh imperialism bad" type person?
Please tell me you're not one of the diluted fools who think that "progress" comes out of nowhere and will be adopted just because someone calls it progress.
and then they cut it all from the film
Now imagine if Superman landed in Germany during the 1920s, or Italy or even Japan
That would Be Cool
My thoughts exactly. Western media would cry.
@@SorrowAvenue well obviously Communist Superman is a much more agreeable concept than is Nazi Superman, which would never be greenlit by an official DC property as it's in direct opposition of his character and basically a slap to the face of the original comic creators of the Superman character in general.
Based
@@PerturaBased Name checks out
i like that hes not straight up evil and does these things cuz he genuinely thinks theyre good, the writers turned him from an absolute morality man into a consequentialist who only looks at the bright future, one looks at the now to get a better tomorrow, the other looks at the tomorrow only
My favorite part of the movie was when Joseph said to superman "It's stalin' time!" And they staled sooo hard on each other! Truly one of the moments in the movie industry
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It was epic when they said “it’s blocin’ time!” and then spread communism over Europe
I hope Superman flies through your body at super speed, turning you into red paste just because of your joke.
@@CreeperthanPasta me too, me amigo, me too
when will this meme die holy shit
This is a better Batman vs Superman movie than the actual Batman vs Superman movie. Amazing.
If you want an even better version of BvS, check out The Dark Knight Returns.
(I know this is a 1 year old comment but couldn't resist)
Yep. The original superman -batman are pretty 2-d flat characters from the U.S 40/50's . These versions are pretty complex and intresting.
Hell nah@@spiritualanarchist8162
@@spiritualanarchist8162 Well, they WERE drawings on paper... /j
@@BioGoji-zm5ph lol.good one
The best part of this film is that it refused to acknowledge Aquaman
Muy bueno.
All he does is talk to fish and swim fast and breathe underwater wow, look it's waterboy
@spindletea😂 you got me good
Theres another DC movie that took place during World War II where Aquaman was a member of the Nazi party
@@sandyscrapwitch2064 dang no wonder he wasn’t in Red Sun. Superman must’ve yeeted his ass into orbit
The fact that Lucius Malfoy himself played the Soviet superman is interesting
Man Red Son is a great story. The Soviet batman was so goddamned cool probably my favorite iteration. I wish he could've been in the story longer.
It's unfortunately an issue because they need Superman to be a complete tyrant to end in a pro-America way. IDK it would have been more interesting if Batman didnt just kill a bunch of innocents, but was a turning point for Superman changing how he ran things. Maybe as an advisor or something.
@@mudawott I can't sit through all this right now but I hope he mentioned the first Red Son movie ("motion comic") because the later one is a complete embarrassment in comparison.
Agree this Superman was actually human what a good man would do with power of God
Everything related to the USSR is cool. In real life, even Soviet officials dressed the same during a visit to other countries - gray leather coats and hats.
@@mudawott More like a pro freedom way
😂 "Finally no more K-pop", that one killed me🤣😂!!
It was pretty bold coming from a person who is listening to rap though.
In NK, they made Kim-pop.
Real monkey's paw
Oh yeah, the idea in the book is that communism get huge thanks to Superman and soviet cities are greatly successful. It's not so much about America's being the dominant nation. It's about Luthor putting his energy towards the betterment of humanity instead of his obsession with Superman. Which is a constant theme in the comics, Lex could be doing so much for people if he wasn't fixated on that alien that makes him (in his mind) look inferior.
If Lex Luther would fixate on fixing the world's problems there wouldn't be a need for Superman.
Luther would win by making Superman irrelevant.
@@briansmith48 Sure he would. But Luthor's a narcissist. He has to be *right*. He has to *prove* he's right. Superman's an insult to the man's entire philosophy, so he has to prove that Superman's wrong and that Lex is right.
So, from a logical standpoint, the best way to defeat superman would be for Lex to ignore him and move on. But Lex is emotionally incapable of doing that, so he's a villain.
Right, but even in the end, when asked what his greatest accomplishment was, he straight up says ''defeating the alien, of course'' and then dies. He did better mankind, but he was still doing it all just to one up Supes. lol
i clicked on this video randomly and it took me so long to figure out this was NFKRZ lmao, i'm glad to see the channel still doing good after so long
Thank you for giving background information about the Soviet Union to help us understand where the writers took a bit too much liberty with history.
Stalingrad was still called Stalingrad in the comics because Superman liked Stalin. Weird how in this version Supes yeeted Stalin but didnt do a similar destalinization.
He probably had a soft spot for Stalin at least.
For once an original superhero movie. Thanks for letting me know it exists. I just watched it and I really enjoyed it
This isn't original, if by original you mean that it isn't based on anything. This is an almost straight adaptation of the actual comic, also called Superman: Red Son.
@@src175 And the comic was better, especially the ending. If you want to see a completely original Superman movie, go watch Justice League - Gods and Monsters.
Highly recommend the graphic novel. It's even better than the movie, and the movie is good.
its been so long since ive watched a nfkrz video omg, ik this one is old but im glad to see that you're still posting roman!!!
10:05
Fun fact. “Truth, justice, and the American way” use to be Super Man’s slogan in the original comics
No. This was added in the radio program. Not from the comics.
Granted, they kinda explain why Superman didn't know about the underground gulag by showing that the whole thing was custom built to be invisible to him, like being covered in lead. Also yeah, in the comic the story is a time loop that ends and starts with Superman, which I found pretty neat.
20:42 me to the Zoo employee after they tell me to leave for throwing my own shit into the monkey exhibit
Luthors arc in this movie is a little subtle. As he does his BS early on, Lois questions it every time, and with Superior man, it gets to the point where she nearly leaves him, and it seems to be here that Luthor starts to change his mind about his approach, though he still wants to stop Superman because he's a Superman lol.
Report accuses Israel of systematic torture of Palestinian children
The civil society group Defense for Children International Palestine (DCIP) has released a report documenting what they say is an Israeli policy of “systematically detaining and torturing Palestinian children in the Gaza Strip, including using some as human shields”.
The report is the latest to document widespread torture and abuse of Palestinians, thousands of whom have been rounded up and detained by Israel without charge since October 7.
“They insulted us, slapped me on my face, and kicked me in my stomach and waist. I almost died from the beating,” Karim, a 12-year-old who was stripped and bound by Israeli forces in Gaza, is quoted as saying. “Then they made us walk in front of bulldozers and tanks in the streets so that the resistance wouldn’t target them.”
DCIP says it has recorded at least 31 cases of Palestinian children being used as human shields by Israeli forces since 2000.
The report also quotes a 14-year-old boy named Shadi who says Israeli forces detained him after shooting into a crowd of Palestinians awaiting food assistance in Gaza in March.
“They stripped us of our clothes, blindfolded us, tied us up, and beat us over our heads. They cursed us with filthy insults, saying things like, ‘You hungry ones, let Hamas feed you, you filthy, lice-ridden ones,'” he said. “It was humiliation in every sense of the word.”
My favourite part was when he said it was supermaning time and super maned all over the place
all over stalin*
Very original bro 😐
Hey friend! Would love to see your take on the current status of ROSCOSMOS. Such a great space agency, how do Russians feel about it now?
*and supermanned that ho
I love this kind of "twist" and alternative stuff. This is great...
I love your summary about colonization and world domination stuff- you literally hit the nail on the head!
It would be so cool if instead of just evaporating, superior man became the counter part for apocalypse
Now I want to see a Soviet/Russian Homelander
Edit- So Superior Man is Homelander
Superior Man is Bizarro
If Homelander was Soviet he would be called Rodovnik/Domovnik something like that 🤔
The hole idea of individual or even super-powered individual is antisoviet. The only similarity in soviet art and western comics is between Aquaman and Ikhtiandr. But Ikhtiandr is rather retarded due to living without human collective.
I always found this version of Superman fascinating.
You can tell that he still a good person at heart, like the Superman we all know and love, but he’s going about things in the wrong way.
Because the only right way is the AMERICAN WAY BABY, YEAH pew pew pew
@@RedRabbitEntertainment *proceeds to kill some innocent middle-eastern kid*
@@RedRabbitEntertainment now now, very funny, but I will point out that (at least modern) Supes has very little to do with the American govt. or directly jingoistic practices.
Like, "he's a good boi from Kansas who uses his vast power not to take over the world or hurt anyone less powerful than him, but to help _people"_ is a pretty dang core part of his appeal. Guns or American military practices don't factor into what he does.
This is how I wish he was in Injustice universe. You actually root for Supes
@@Harvey_Mod but the thing is, almost all dc characters are at a functional extreme, comparably to say marvel characters which are more believable. But because of that when approaching the idea of "superman but evil" taken seriously, you'd need to take the original and fuck him up to the point that he thinks controlling everyone and killing anyone who disobeys him is valid in order to make him another extreme.
One of the best videos you ever made, I can tell you had a lot of passion going into this. Great work!
Lex luthor showing up in a mech suit is basically the plot of Metal Wolf Chaos.
Luther is supposed to be a villain so him creating an American Empire fits.
Its funny that its played off as a good thing in the movie lmao
@@josjos-x5s Is it? We know he is a villain in the movie. We have no reason to assume he will be such a global good guy.
Hes a villain before the time skip and then for some reason they then show every action of his as good by the end of it. It really is a 180 and depicts him as this suddenly perfect leader. Cant criticize the american system!
@@josjos-x5s Which is weird, given that even Hollywood constantly complains about the generic evil capitalists guys, Luther really fits that role too.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me I mean he is quite literally that role in the majority of his stories. But for some reason when communism is brought into the storys, the rich capitalist guy is suddenly the good guy by the end?
I've never heard the term "russophobic" before but that is hilarious! I can't believe they'd make that accusation of something that's clearly at the expense of the USSR, not Russia specifically. I do love this story and how it reimagines Lex Luthor as working with multiple US presidents as well as where he becomes one himself, Batman as a counterrevolutionary domestic terrorist because of course Bruce Wayne would never do that, Lex and Superman are morally ambiguous rather than black and white, etc.
You realize that this is all fiction, and the writing staff can make up anything they want.
@@Awestefeld6612 ...yeah, they're complimenting it???
How is "russophobic" hilarious? Do you know what our people went through? Classic.
@@ivano7770 You misinterpreted my comment. Obviously the sentiment isn't but people's incessant need to label every little thing "phobic" and "ist" is. There's been lots of Russophobia since the 2022 Ukraine invasion because a lot of people lack nuance and don't understand that the people are not responsible for or the same as the Russian government/military. I was merely laughing at the news anchors calling the movie Russophobic when it clearly isn't. I have known some nice Russian and Ukrainian immigrants alike.
Russophobia is an actual thing, and it's not necessarily due to the USSR.
"Just imagine what kind of immense power Stalin had in the Soviet Union at that time"
None, he was dead in 1953 and that part takes place at 1955 for some reason, I don't know how the movie makers missed that
Its often theorized that stalin was poisoned in some way personally i dont care if he was but this plot hole could be explained by russian super man thwarting the plans of whoever wanted to get rid of stalin so that could explain the plot hole ig
This is not our timeline where he died in 1953. This is a timeline where Superman exists and is a citizen of the USSR. That alone should highlight that this Joe Stalin is not of our history...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 spittin facts lmao
This is very easy to justify, for example, by saying that in this world Stalin relied not on Beria, who, as they say, left him to die in a pool of urine during a seizure and forbade his guards to enter his room, saying that "Comrade Stalin is resting." but on Superman, who, being a loyal guy himself, personally fly Stalin to the doctors. Nothing complicated.
Every character is shown to retain their personality in this alternate universe. So keep in mind that everything Luther does should have “but at what cost?” tacked on the end. His actions can safely be assumed to be self-serving. I think the end was supposed to show Luther winning but maybe not to the true benefit of Earth. I doubt the creators believe the US should run the world. Also, as a woman, I wished they gave Diana’s lines to a woman to write… but then I pictured myself growing up in Themyscira learning from their own propaganda and… idk maybe I wouldn’t have been much nicer after all lol.
I absolutely loved hearing your perspective, friend. Thanks for putting it out there!
Nah, the comics end with tens of thousands of American lead years of utopia, so take that however you will. 🤷
Be sure to watch from 26:50 to the end. This young Russian man sums it up quite accurately.
If more people understood this is would make things a lot smoother everywhere.
It’s seriously not that hard to have a bit of empathy when looking into any situation, or the cause of it and act accordingly
The fact that I saw the words “Soviet Superman” and IMMEDIATELY clicked
Regarding Superman being free to travel to the United States: The USSR was also very upset when famous filmmaker Sergei Eisenstein traveled to the United States for a "tour" of Hollywood that lasted a few years. He began work on a film in Mexico called "Bezhin Meadow", but the project was canceled and Eisenstein was called back to the USSR. Stalin didn't trust Eisenstein after that, fearing he had been corrupted by American ideals, and Eisenstein worked under an official state supervisor for the remainder of his filmmaking career.
Dude .... Soviet officials and other figures could travel to other countries. Now imagine that this is literally a real superman who can fly and shoot lasers from his eyes....
@@Anonymous-qj3sf certainly, it would be a lot harder to stop Superman from going wherever he wanted; and they even mentioned that in this video.
Man my high ass processed this as "Einstein" and didn't even question it
@@worth779Almosty
Ahh yes my favorite superheroes Cупермен and Блятьман
The weird part for this whole story...they didn't even bother about the masses opinions....only the battle of individuals.
Americans often overestimate the weight an value of individuals.
Exactly, it kinda makes sense though this wasn't made by someone who understands communism very well (or superman really for that matter) as he'd definitely kill Stalin but then actually implement socialism and then communism world wide, but in real life even a die hard communist would have trouble with that much power individually, but using it to implement infrastructure to give everyone what they need to excel, it might humble him, who knows?
I LOVE GREAT MAN THEORY
9:19 I am Korean, and you definitely made me chuckle there. That would be a better world. A world with no K-Pop.
There is another movie where Superman lands on the Mexico border and is shaped by the situation there , ultimately still being a good person and being even more accepting of other people despite their differences , but doing some questionable things for the greater good
that movie was awesome.
But isn't he the son of Zod and Kal-El's mom? Theoretically not our Superman, but yeah.
what did he do?
@@melelconquistador *spoilers for the movie*
Killed a child mutant whose powers went out of control
@@AlexT7916 what is the name of the work?
"I am not a movie reviewer."
... Sorry to burst your bubble, but you are. You JUST reviewed a movie. That made you a movie reviewer.
Friend: Who's your favorite DC character?
Me: *Stalin*
*Watching this video, I thought I was in a parallel universe for some reason. It felt so different from the 99.9% of stuff Roman upload. I really enjoyed it and I want more. :)*
He used to do this all the time, in happier days.
This is such a wild comic. Hahaha
How about a video on concept arts and plans for soviet buildings and towers and city landscapes. It would be interesting to see how many of them were too optimistic or even if some of them ended up being made
2:45 Stalin died in 1953. Bros cant even google when Stalin died 💀
True but irl Stalin died from a brain tumor but in this world Superman can see what’s on your body so that’s why maybe Stalin lived longer
Also Superman most likely took on the brunt of the German invasion of the Soviet Union, relieving a lot of personal stress Stalin experienced during such a time within our timeline.
Soviet Batman is so tragic.
I want a series on it NOW
No.
@@Goodstitching 🗿
sincerely mexican and soviet superman would be interesting 😅
Literally no idea this was a thing. I remember the rumblings when the comic was put out but didn't know they made a movie. Fun listening to your perspective.
The comic was actually a bit better in my opinion in that it felt more full and complete.
far more than a bit better
Great review and I like the last part felt like a life lessons to the things we deal with in real life and this movie is relatable
16:10 man really added an antidepressant* to the water supply
*at the time Viloxazine hydrochloride was used as an anti depressant but has since been used for ADHD medication.
Pretty sure he said "fluoxetine", but iirc that's the generic for Prozac so either way it stands.
Interesting that you bring up its use for adhd though. People might be surprised how many "antidepressants" get used for adhd. SNRI types in particular, as they tend to adjust not just serotonin but dopamine levels as well, and while adhd can look on the outside like just "excess energy" what it really is higher need for mental stimulation - this is precisely WHY stimulant medication can help some people with their adhd, but regulating dopamine through other means can also work. Off the top of my head Wellbutrin and I think Lyrica are used for both adhd and depression, as is at least one other that can't recall right now.
A line from the DCAU
"Your enemy is never as evil as you think, and we are not as good as you think"
Just thought I should mention that "Clark" was not exactly a very common or popular name in English speaking countries (isn't really today either) UNTIL of course directly following the release of Superman comics in the 1930's... and later Clark Gable (in real life actually William... but it was considered to be too boring for his "hollywood persona") became a famous movie star in the early 1940's... Plus as a first name it is actually of Irish origins however it was pronounced VERY differently from its Americanised interpretation.
Which is perhaps why they didn't want to use a very common Russian name for his Russian alternative timeline character counterpart and needed a weirder more obscure one for his "Earth name". Just saying...
12:05 you could argue that because superman was in charge his supernomics made Stalingrad have a bunch of money to make it look like a modern western city.
The Red Son animated movie was pretty good, even if it was simplified significantly from the graphic novel. The ending works a lot better than the original, IMO - Mark Millar's predestination paradox at the end is kinda silly. And the Luthor as hero paradigm works a lot better in the movie than it does in the graphic novel, where he is still the same old narcissistic a___hole he always was, but on the right side since Superman is the greater threat. Still wonder why Mark Millar wasn't involved in the adaptation.
Russian Batman was one of his cooler incarnations as far as I'm concerned. Like Superman, he really believes his actions are for the greater good. This is another issue where the movie works better than the graphic novel. The comic puts Batman's obsession against a lessor character who is omitted in the movie. The movie keeps Batman's obsession where it belongs: against Superman, whom he blames for destroying Russia.
One aspect I didn't much care for when I first saw the movie was the fate of the Lana character (Svetlana in the movie), although I think better of it in hindsight. In the graphic novel, Superman gives Lana a job in the Kremlin while others mockingly say that it's payback for Lana keeping Superman's true identity secret. The movie [SPOILER!] kills her off after Superman frees her from the gulag. But I realize that the movie version actually works better because it's this point where Superman really starts to lose his way. The graphic novel makes this change far more gradual over time with Superman really losing track after Brainiac shows up and starts manipulating him (and Lana really ceases to have any substantial role in the story after Book 1). In the movie, the change in Superman's character was already well along, and all Brainiac has to do is keep him believing his acts are beneficial to the Russian people when we have already seen otherwise.
In all, I now recognize the value of the changes from the comic, and I think it is one of the better DC adaptations.
Ive seen the motion comic version and i believe it is quite similar to the graphic novel as well.
Superman in the novel/comic was much better thab in the movie, he actually acknowledges the dark side of the soviet union while is too delusional in his stalinist ideologies to change. However the biggest difference is that the Soviet Union actually took over the world in the novel/comic and had America cornered. The novel/comic portrays superman as an actual threat rather than a big bad soviet meanie
6:20 I think the only unrealistic thing, considering how thorough Stalin was on his paranoia, is the fact that Svetlana and all the others could still be alive. Stalin would have killed them all.
Also how chill Stalin was about literally letting Superman be kept alive when he could just do whatever he wanted. Who else could just show up to military installations and be welcomed in, knowing there was no way to stop them? I'm surprised Stalin didn't see Superman through the same lens as Trotsky or a political rival, even with how loyal and innocent Superman was. Maybe scare the West with him but then send him to October Revolution Island for a 'mission' and drop Czar Bomba on him, perhaps the only way to kill Superman.
@@Awakeningspirit20 If the '6 mini black hole brainiac ship which has a blast radius of 15 million miles didn't kill him I don't think a tsar bomba will.
I remember actually watching this movie on an iranian movie service where you had to pay to watch the movies but this one was free.
The gulag is underground specifically to keep it hidden from Superman's X-ray vision
I love the symbolism of how Superior Man is literally and figuratively a flanderized version of Superman.
I just would like to say that guards normally wouldn't barge into Stalin's room like that seeing as anyone that did anything without his permission were either exicuted or sent to a Gulag. This kinda came back to bite him in the ass because when he had a stroke in 1953, none of his doctors came to his rescue out of fear.
And you been there all along to tell the story
14:53 that's not Wonder Woman thats Albanian Woman
24:54 It's MANIFEST DESTINY!!!!!