@@life_with_logan9691 I always thought Casey and Steve was a joint effort, the whole "which door am I at?" part always led me to believe that both killers were there, so it wouldn't have mattered which door Casey picked.
Casey death was said to be a team effort but Stu killed her though and Billy hung her from the tree the deaths actually not hard to figure out who did it
there's absolutely no arguing the fact that billy and stu were the best ghostface killers from character development to motive to creativity, even down to likeability - however jill came the close to actually achieving her goals and very nearly got a way with it; far more than any of the other 6 previous killers managed. Billy and stu are without a doubt the soul of the franchise and it would be incredibly hard to top what was created through them, but you've got to hand it to jill at how far she got and how close she was to her endgame overall.
True but sadly, her whole motive and Charakter was trash. I mean: she got jealous because Sidney became famous through losing all her friends, two boyfriends included? And she got so jealous and wanted to be fame so bad that she’s ready to kill all her friends and her own mother? I mean yea sure psycho and all that but please that’s ridiculous. And while it’s quiet creative it’s still just dumb. Change my mind
Jill Roberts to me was the closest one who could’ve gotten away with EVERYTHING and close to doing what others failed to do which is actually injuring Sidney.
I'd of loved to of seen Jill continue on as a survivor it would have been interesting knowing she's actually the killer and we follow a completely different narrative that we'd be fresh and different
a Ghostface with the character of Billy, the kills of Charlie, the ingenuity of Jill, the surprise of Mrs. Loomis, and the motive of Mickey would be unstoppable
Stu Macher's "Peer pressure, I'm far too sensitive" line, explaining his motive was meant to be funny. Even when revealed to be a killer he's making a joke out of everything doing his job as one of the comic relief characters. Also, I've never seen a comic relief character turn out to be one of the villains in another movie but someone correct me if I'm wrong there?
The “I’m far too sensitive” line is referencing a scene that was written but never filmed right before Stu’s party where Billy calls him a butt wart and Stu gets offended. Billy says something along the lines of he was just kidding and “im just trying to toughen you up, you’re far too sensitive!” The scene was scrapped because it was too much of a dead giveaway as to who the killer was. Just a fun fact!
Revealed to be a killer hes making a joke out of everything doing his job as on of the comic relief characters also, lve never seen a comic relief character turn out to be one of the villains in another movie 🎥 but someone correct me if im wrong there?
@@theyluv.sqwilly9904 Actually there will be Scream 5 coming out in 2021! It will be directed by Matt Bettinelli-olpin and Tyler Gillett!!! I know!!! I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!! Let's just hope they manage to go all the way and not cancel 🤷🏻♂️
Zack Cherry Because of the columbine massacre, lol. You can see how toned down the whole thing is, compared to the original and the sequel. It’s like they were trying to make a PG13 version of it.
Which is why I love the Scream films. It's not a gory slasher genre. It's a basic stab them kind of films while being bloody but not gory. Just how I love my Slasher films. I enjoy the first three films. Four wasn't my cup of tea.
No heads come off, hands come off and legs come off. Most of the time it's just quite a bit of blood. Not always showing guts a lot of them time. It only happens atleast 1 once or twice. Unfortunately I rather not see that. But hey these Slashers are fun and are not sickening as hell atleast like other slashers out there.
I agree, but Roman was the true motivation for Billy to commit the massacre. I kinda give Roman the best because he didn’t Have lift a finger. Be easily manipulated the entire scream franchise. And he was by himself. He killed more people too
@@aleksandarradovanovic8496 Yea, but the kills were so boring and uncreative. It was no fun watching those kills and its one of the worst movies with one of the worst killers. He also was by himself meaning he was obviously going to be the one to get more kills. Everyone else had help.
Jill is definitely my favorite GhostFace, she really thought out a plan whether Sydney was able to survive it (weirdly) and I loved where she kept hurting herself to set up her plan!! Really well done
I wanted Jill Roberts to get away with it so badly. Imagine if the Final Girl was the killer? Imagine if a copycat killer wanted fame like her, and they decided to make the hunter into the hunted. That would have been amazing.
My husband and I had this very conversation yesterday! Ghostface-turned-Final-Girl would've been so original. For extra fun, Sidney would still survive but have no memory of what happened, which would place Jill in the awkward position of trying to revel in her newfound fame while also trying not to jog Sidney's memory.
I mean i'd want her to actually have killed her cousin and not slip up on the Gale injuries matching hers, then make Scream 5, Jill survived 4 and becomes the third killer in 5, tutoring the other 2,acting like a boss till she gets stabbed by Amber while being told that's she's such a Bitch
Mickey was always my favourite. He was cunning and charismatic. He worked his ass off to rack up his body count with some rather impressive kills. Not to mention how he was able to use Sidney's trauma and trust issues to manipulate and torment her.
For me personally, when I think Ghostface, ITS ALL ABOUT THE PHONE CALLS. Micheal Myers has his stalking, Freddy Krueger has the dream sequences, Jason has the most inventive kills, Ghostface has the phone call taunts. Jill and Billy had the best phone calls. Jill imo, is the Best Ghostface. Came the closest to getting away with it, least suspected, and did it all in the age of social media and caller ID. A lot harder to sneak around and taunt people when everyone has a camera in their pocket.
Yeah that's why Scream 4 is my second favorite of the movies, behind Scream 1 of course lol. Like Jill was so freaking likeable and was constantly being attacked, and she was the protagonist, and Sidney's niece, like she had everything going for her not being the killer, I just finished the movie and I already had Charlie pegged but HOLY CRAP when Jill took off her mask. MY jaw DROPPED and I let out an audible gasp and said "HOLY CRAP, JILL NO!!" My god Scream 4 was good haha
They had the killer actor who made all the calls do it away from the actors and off the sets, so they never really interacted or met the person who did it.
Lmao facts. Matthew lillards peformance was incredible. As Zach said “I can’t really take stu too seriously as a killer” i see his point tho, stu’s goofiness, clumsiness, you just can’t take him too seriously as a killer. No other killer in the scream franchise acts the way stu acts. But definitely an amazing performer by Matthew lillard.
I knew the diff but definitely confused Matthew Lillard with Timothy Olyphant for a good few years. Until one of them aged like a fine wine and the other like an old handbag, now it's easy.
Stu had a very human motive besides being insane. Casey dumped him for Steve. This broke his heart. She humiliated him and he wasn't going to take it sitting down. He also was never a fully sane person. He did look up to Billy Loomis a lot.
Possibly even gay for Billy. If anything I think Stu was bi or just straight. He mentions “I always had a thing for you Sid!” Either way he’s my fav character in the series (even tho he only got to appear in one movie)
Stu had a very human motive besides board besides belonging insane. Casey dumped him for Steve this broke his heart and he'll make it him and he wouldn't go to ticket sit down he also finally insist the person. He didn't look up to Billy Loomis at all Billy Loomis a lot
My personal rankings: 7. Roman: mainly due to poor writing and censorship on gore after Columbine 6. Mickey: Boring character that was "saved" by an interesting last seen. 5. Charlie: Slightly more interesting than Mickey, and had the 2nd best kill of the franchise (imo) 4. Billy's Mother: A believable killer with a true motive. She also effectively used Mickey as a pawn to eventually (almost) get to Sidney. 3. Jill: While the planning and motive was better than Stu, it's harder to believe that she could fight/kill due to her size/fighting ability. The story around her is awesome, however. 2. Stu: Favorite character imo. Just a crazy dude who wants to help his friend. Aside from the excellent writing, the first movie was so successful because Stu and Billy were so believable as killers. 1. Billy: Motive, knowledge of horror, use of phone calls. This is the perfect killer. Calm and collected, but still bat-shit crazy internally is a scary thought. Stu was more obvious that he was crazy, but Billy had a sadistic mindset that makes viewers wonder what people around them think of.
Going off of your categories my ranking is: 7. Charlie (Complete waste except to be betrayed later) 6. Mrs. Loomis (Almost too forgettable since she wasn't integral to the story at all until the end) 5. Mickey (Again, although a great killer, he was just a psycho rather than having a realistic motive and he does just disappear halfway through the movie) 4. Jill (Yes she was creative, but her motive of wanting to be popular based off of surviving a massacre makes her seem childish to me) 3. Roman (So yes he is whiny and forgettable as a character, however taking the ridiculousness out of Scream 3, he has the highest body count, works alone, faked his own death, had a bullet proof vest and that voice changer. So in technical terms he is the best at being a killer for having covered the most bases plus he was proved to be the cause of the first 3 movies so in essence he is the final boss of scream [It's a shame the movie had the gore turned down and the script rewritten]) 2. Stu (He is calculated but also hilariously psychotic at the same time) 1. Billy (Even though he was the definition of it's always the boyfriend, he was able to use his knowledge of movies, manipulation of Stu + others, and violent tendencies to create a horror movie, seem more innocent than he should have been, and almost nearly exact revenge that he so crazily desired)
I like your list tbh. Everyone out here loving Jill a lot and yeah she was interesting and all that but damn she didn’t hardly do any of the dirty work necessary for her scheme to work. Without Charlie (who I legit forgot his name even tho I just watched The Who Killed Who for scream 4 lol) she wouldn’t have gotten as far as she did and the credit “got the closest to achieving her goal” isn’t really accurate anymore if he’s removed from the equation. Idk man it’s interesting how many people are hyping her up when she just seemed like a psychotic brat who didn’t do much of the leg work 😂
Well, I can defend Jill of being Childish because, well... she is a teenager (not my favourite killer, tho, but she almost accomplished her goal) The other thing, I would never put Billy Loomis at the top of a list. It makes me think people just like him for being the villain in the Original movie. He was too obvious throughout the entire movie! Also Stu, both acted crazy, both weren't charming at all, and Loomis motives were... well... too basic (yeah, I prefered Stu's motive). I could give more points to his mother over him in that aspect... In retrospective, none of the killer were good enough for me as everyone is missing something (and I love the entire Franchise lol)
I actually figured out Jill was the killer while watching Scream 4 for the first time in the cinema. When Sidney talks to Ghostface on the phone (the first time I think),Ghostface loses "his" composure and says something along the lines of Sidney being selfish and not thinking about everyone she abandoned. So that made it pretty obvious according to me.
I was the opposite . . Jill surprised me the most in the end with the reveal. After she wasn't under the bed I suspected it could be her but I think her being "attacked" at Olivia's and watching her death completely threw me off her trail!
My Rankings: 7. Roman Bridger (why do people like him?) 6.Debbie Loomis 5. Charlie Walker 4. Mickey Altieri 3. Jill Roberts 2. Stu Macher 1. Billy Loomis
The reason why I ranked Charlie above Debbie and Roman is because he was great in behind the mask. He also has some of the best phone calls of the series, and I think that his reveal is one of the most creative in the series. It doesn’t beat Stu’s and Billy’s, but I like the suspense and how it played out. Basically Roman and Debbie sucks with the mask on and off, but Charlie doesn’t suck with his mask on.
For me, Roman was the biggest shocker. First off because he was already presumed dead... but the plot of him being Sidney’s brother & architect of the first movie, just hit me hard. I actually was really upset when he was killed because I kinda wanted him & Sid to have a relationship. She had been through hell and back the last three films I just thought it was rather poetic that she now had a (half) brother.
@P i s c e Yeah but let’s be real she was the only one that had a legit reason for wanting Sidney dead. Sidney didn’t sleep with Billy’s dad that was Maureen.. Sidney had nothing to do with that... Sidney didn’t give Roman up for adoption that was Maureen... so why would they want Sidney dead instead of ending it with Maureen? I see no point in Sidney having to pay for her mothers mistakes ... and Jill wanted to become Sidney more than kill her so it was never about Sidney... Jills motive was dumb, she did it all for attention? That’s stupid.
My Ranking: 7 - Charlie 6 - Mrs. Loomis 5 - Roman 4 - Mickey 3 - Billy 2 - Jill 1 - Stu (because I LOVE his character and Matthew was insane acting in this role)
Stu - My favorite killer "My mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me" "Peer pressure, I'm far too sensitive" priceless Billy - The best looking killer for sure, but it was the "is he the killer? No he can't be the killer" flip flop that does it for me. He was almost the "too obvious so it can't be him" choice Jill - She really could have gotten away with it and played up the "final girl" thing. One of the only Ghostface's I had zero suspicion of Roman - The mastermind behind it all so he deserves some credit. He probably was a lame killer because he didn't expect he would have to kill (Billy and Stu failed) Mrs. Loomis - she was intense but had great motivation. A good twist too, didn't really expect that one. Mickey - I didn't know his character well enough to care he was a killer, it wasn't a shocking reveal Charlie - I feel like they tried to make him a Randy 2.0 and then made him the lamest killer. Idk
I completely agree with your rankings, and here's why: #7) Charlie Walker was a self-pitying, whiny jerk who basically allowed his psycho classmate to manipulate him into being her patsy because he was angry that the girl he really liked wouldn't make he first move. When she finally did, he stabbed her... though probably less than he would have if she never did. Ugh. He was such a loser. #6) Roman Bridger does not fall into last place because he singlehandedly masterminded the Hollywood killing spree. So he has a brain. Unfortunately, he was also a whiny, self-pitying jerk who couldn't move on with his life. He was a loser. Plus, the whole "I've actually been someone else the whole time that you didn't know" soap opera plot twist is such a cheat when it comes to solving a mystery, because it's something we never could have guessed prior. #5) Mrs. Loomis. Most of the things I said about Roman also apply to her. She masterminded (and financed!) the Windsor College killing spree, but the soap opera plot twist of being Billy's mother was a cheat. Her presence was completely arbitrary prior to the big reveal. She ranks higher than Roman because Laurie Metcalf is one hell of an actress, and made her character work in a way that Scott Foley couldn't do for Roman or Rory Culkin for Charlie. #4) Stu Macher. Ah, Stu, Stu, Stu. Landed smack in the middle, didn't you? Matthew Lillard made Stu completely believable as a lovable goof who was also a cold-blooded sociopath. Two flip sides of the same coin. Seems odd, but it works. Not particularly menacing, but completely believable. #3) Mickey Altieri. The highest ranking patsy on this list. Sure, he was just doing Mrs. Loomis's dirty work, but Timothy Olyphant gave him a lot of sexy bad boy psycho charisma. His young Jack Nicholson smile doesn't hurt, either. He's like Christian Slater's character in Heathers with a gym membership. #2) Billy Loomis. I don't believe in giving points for being the OG -- just because you got there first doesn't mean you did it best. In this case, though, he almost did. It's low on the surprise factor -- if the killer had been anyone who wasn't as close to Sid, the movie would not have been the classic it is. However, thanks to Skeet Ulrich's intense performance, it's still a devastating reveal. This one HURTS. #1) Jill Roberts. No Ghostface reveal was more shocking than this one. The pure evil coming out of a seemingly sweet and innocent-looking girl who seemed poised to be the new Sidney was as shocking as it got, as it was the second time tat someone who Sid was really closed to turned out to be the one trying to destroy her. Although Emma Roberts played up the brattiness, which made her slightly less compelling than Billy as a character, her shallow motives were very believable, and her betrayal cut so deep that for the first time even Sidney looked defeated at the end. Dark, disturbing, twisted, and incredibly satisfying.
Definitely. The fact Jill did all of this because she wanted to be the final girl was great. Now a days where people just want to be famous regardless of what it takes on social media, it is very fitting. And same, I don't believe the whole OG points. Of course he was great, but if someone is better then that's it. Definitely was great too though.
I just found Jill annoying and unlikable, even before she was revealed as Ghostface. She wasn’t a villain that I loved to hate, I just wanted her to die as quickly as possible.
Jill is definitely my favorite Ghostface! When I saw the movie in theaters I actually suspected anyone in that movie to be the killer except for Jill so I was SHOCKED and loved it!
Billy is #1 and Stu #2...as Randy says, sequels are inferior to the original. Being the first at something means ur also the best, everyone else is just copying you. 🤸
Yeah but you forgot Roman was the mastermind behind all of this. He manipulated young Billy and Stu to be the killers in the first film. His plan failed so he took care of it on his own by Scream 3 arrives.
yesss! jill definitely deserves first place, scream 4 might be one of my favorite movies of all time because of her, the shock, the plan, EVERYTHING about her. she's badass
Honestly, Roman is really underrated. Yes he had almost zero character development but as a Ghostface killer he is defenetly THE true mastermind and original killer behind the entire SCREAM franchise. Without him Billy and Stu wouldn’t kill Sidney’s mother, Billy’s mother wouldn’t want to revenge her son and without the massacers Jill wouldn’t be jealous of Sidney. So even tho his character wasn’t written the best way, he still is the one who started it all. Plus he was working all alone and unlike others he was smart enough to wear the bullet-proof vest (so that is smart and impresive).
Yeah, this list is bullshit, he completely fucked Roman, just because he didn't like the act Roman put on in public. His calls were the best, his kills were the best, he had the biggest balls, and he was the best, period. Roman *IS* Ghostface.
@@ermacjones4821 exactly, I respect his opinion but Roman just is the puppet master behind everything. And to be honest his motive is more understandable than most of the others, he isn’t crying baby with momy issues, he was dumped by his own mother just becose she didn’t want to think about her past and then started a new family with a new child, yeah to be honest I would feel betrayed and angry too if my own mother would dumped me for some bullshit and then had a new kid she would really love unlike me. So his motives were much better than motive of Mickey, Charlie, Stu, Richie and Amber. Yet everyone say trash about him.
This list is pretty accurate. I actually did feel that Jill was the best in a very long line of serial killers. Plus the fact she could switch from sensitive to psychotic pretty much sealed the deal for me.
Am I the only one that liked Roman Bridger? I thought it was cool having him be the sole killer and almost invisible throughout the movie... Also he gets extra point from me for killing Cotton Weary lol
Funny Depressive Yeah Roman is one of my favorites, probably more so than Billy and Stu. The whole idea of a director killing off his cast just to mess with his half sister and destroy the Prescott name. I also loved the idea of a slasher horror in a film set. Roman hiding among all the Ghostface costumes to kill Sarah is probably one of the best scenes in the entire series.
No your not the only 1 who liked Roman Bridger He is the 1 who taught Billy everything he needed to know which makes Roman the Master -Mind Behind everything Giving Billy the motives and Stimulation he needed to become a killer they should give Roman more Credit than that .........i thought it was cool that he didn't need a partner for help almost invisible/Invincible , he was also very quick/Swift , and moved very fast/Quickly and faking his Death was really good especially when Gale went to check his Pulse to see if he was "Actually Really Dead and not Faking" Gale said he was Dead which makes Roman's surprise RANKING points Go up for faking his Death so Well and Fooling Gale and Jennifer Then in the 3rd 1 they finally show the Real Master-Mind Behind Sidney's Mother's Death which is Roman.
I hated Roman. They tried to retcon a guy who'd never been seen or mentioned in the previous 2 films into the mastermind behind everything and it was stupid. Billy going from finding out about his dad's affair with Maureen Prescott, getting Stu to help him kill her, planting a bloody coat he was wearing in Cotton's car to frame him and planning to pin their next killing spree all on Stu if they got caught on his own to being retconned into only doing those things because Roman, a guy he'd never met and had no reason to trust showed him footage of Maureen's affair with his dad was just a forced attempt to make a forgettable character an important part of the story. It made no sense. How did he manage to record Sidney, Dewey, Gale and Cotton's voices on his voice changer? And since he and Sidney didn't have any scenes before the reveal instead of the shock and betrayal she felt after finding out Billy, Stu, Mickey and Mrs Loomis were killers she was just confused and wondering who he even was.
1. *Billy Loomis* (The OG murdering mastermind. A sociopath that orchestrated all the murders and was the brains behind the scheme. I didn't really expect it to be him but I did love his and Stu's reveals as the killers.) 2. *Mickey Altieri* (To me he was equally psychotic in both his murders and the way he instilled fear and paranoia into Sydney in conversations with her without giving the game away. My sister likes to call him the Sneaky Slasher.) 3. *Debbie Loomis* (Equally as psychotic as her son she was equally a mastermind like him and used her cover story as a journalist to keep an eye on Gail and explain why she was close to crime scenes. I understand her reason the most for wanting to kill Sydney- revenge for her murdered son.) 4. *Stu Macher* (I like to think his involvement in the murders was peer pressure but after rewatching the film and the analysis of Casey and Steve's murders, he seemed like he was a sociopathic lunatic driven by revenge- Casey leaving him Steve- who liked the thrill of the kill and decided to continue, being led by Billy.) 4. *Jill Roberts* (I liked her storyline and the fact that she became so obsessed with gaining fame through 'new Woodsboro murders' that she was willing to kill her family. She reminded me of a new Billy Loomis as she even schemes against Charlie the other killer and kills him to look like the sole survivor. She even injures herself. She was delusional in thinking she be the new Sydney Prescott but overall she very nearly succeeded in getting away with the several murders she committed if she'd only checked if Sydney was still alive.) 6. *Roman Bridger* (I enjoyed his motive to why he wanted to be close to Sydney but because the audience didn't see his character much it took the shock value away so it wasn't as good a reveal as it could have been.) 7. *Charlie Walker* (I didn't like him. They tried to make him into Randy Meeks but it failed. And I hated him for betraying Kirby.)
The perfect ranking 👍🏻 . But I think I’ll give Roman more points or credits because he work all alone without having any partner like all other ghostfaces don’t u think 🤔.
But it did push the remaining characters to the climax. It was a smart move for the Scream 2 film as it made us feel, but his lack of presence in the next films drastically effected the them negatively.
No it wasn't. They needed to up the ante from scream by offing a beloved character and it worked beautifully. Scream 3 too for offing the hero of scream 2 cotton weary at the beginning.
But they can't just keep the same characters each film in a series which pokes fun at the horror genre which famously claimed nobodies safe and all bets are off. I love Cotton and was sad he went but that to me shows they know what their doing x. Hoping 5 ups the ante a bit.
I just love Mickey man, his movie knowledge, combined with his charismatic personality, just made him one hell of a character. Not only that, but he's also very creative with his kills, Cici's was just iconic. I personally think he has the most interesting and best motive, the man really just wanted to get caught, and get fame for his case. Although I know he's not the smartest killer, I believe he has the most brawn and physical strength of all ghost face killers, it just upsets me when I see people say Mickey was boring, like, did we watch the same movie? The only thing that kind of dumbs down the character is the surprise, like on my first watch of Scream 2 I was like,: "Wait, who is that again?" When they revealed him, man really disappeared. Mickey is my personal favorite, but the best has to either go to Billy or Jill, maybe Stu. My personal list would prob have to be 7.) Charlie (Just the "nice" guy who is way to damn gullible, I would admit, I would hate this guy if he really existed.) 6.) Mrs Loomis (Like excuse me, what?! I though you abandoned Billy, you want to go on a damn murder spree when you find out he's dead? Unrealistic.) 5.) Roman (I had to give the guy props for being prob the smartest killer, but I think all Scream fans have to come to an agreement that this is poor writing.) 4.) Stu (I really find him interesting, like his motive seems like such a mystery, like was he gay for Billy? Did he want revenge on Casey? Or did was he really just peer pressured by Billy? Also, without Matthew Lillard's performance, Stu could've been just like Charlie, this guy is hilarious af.) 3.) Jill (I find her reveal to be one of the biggest plot twists of all time, like I was sittin there like "It's gotta be Robbie, Robbie is the geek, wait, it's Trevor, he wants revenge." I just thought as Jill as some weird Sidney clone, until they revealed her, mind blown.) 2.) Billy (He's so damn charming, then creepy. You had yourself second guessing if it was him or not the whole movie, like you were thinking they were trying to make it obvious or something, he has to be the most iconic and most quotable. I find him to be the most scariest. 1.) Mickey (Obviously, you already heard my speech on Mickey. When you put a colorful personality, creative kills, and a great motive together, you just get this awesome and badass psycho.)
i watched Scream 4 for the first time with my parents a few months ago and we figured out Jill about halfway into the movie. she seemed like the new sidney and with her literal family ties to sidney we thought it had to be her because if you look at all of the MAIN killers (not the lapdogs) they are all related to sidney and/or have ties to the first movie (billy, billy’s mom, sid’s brother, sid’s cousin)
Yeah, I figure a re-ranking would put her much lower at this point. Charlie does 90% of the work in the movie, getting the majority of the kills and phone calls, not to mention being the one handling the cameras. Jill can barely even be considered a Ghost Face when you consider how little she actually does, which is good for her plan I guess, but it also makes her a bit of a Paper Tiger.
@@Saber0003 it's just one person's opinion, it's not factual that charlie did most of the work. Don't you see Jill at the end how she just killed Trevor without blinking shows that she has experience. When charlie stabbed Kirby, he was shaking. It's still a chance they did 50/50 of the work. U might find this hard to believe since u have done made up your mind however
At the end of the movie, charlie said his Robbie kill is better than his Jenny, Marnie, Olivia and kirbie kill on the webcam. And that's the main reason that I have for Jill killing Rebecca, the cops and her mom although I don't see how Jill could have killed her mom, she can't be so strong against two women pushing the door. But the rest yeah
1.Billy. He just played the role the best out of anyone imo. 2.Jill. She had a total surprise factor most people wouldn't see coming. 3. Mickey. He was an excellent crazy dude. 4. Roman. Just because all of this series other than 4 was his movie or design. The real movie he was trying to make was the murders. 5.Mrs. Loomis. It was another complete surprise that she would even be involved. 6. Stu. He was simply a better side kick than most and did a good job of being over the top and funny. 7. Charlie. Because obvious reasons. He sucked all the way around.
Mickey was clearly the best and the most dangerous Ghostface (and the hottest also) ... Yes roman started everything and acted alone but I don't think he was the strongest killer
Originally Roman is supposed to have a partner, ( Angelina) but script changed And originally there's suppose to be 4 Ghostface in scream 2 Mrs Loomis, Mickey, Halie and.... Derek
@@marbre1318 Originally the killer in Scream 3 was supposed to be Stu But the columbine massacre changed everything, and also you are talking about an alternative script for Scream 2 ... Mickey and Mrs.Loomis were always supposed to be the killers. Don't trust articles on the web when they say "this was the original script" because this is completely false and Kevin Williamson said : "There was even a fake ending where Dewey was the killer. They existed as a decoy and nothing more. Extreme measures, but we really wanted to keep the killer’s identity a secret!"
Definitely gave Jill a lot more credit. She definitely came off as sus with her disappearing act and shady dialogue with Sidney. I would say a 3/5 in that category. Also don't get why so many people downgrade Stu. His overacting shows how crazy he's becoming and thus adds to his character for me. Overall- Seemed biased at some points. Bringing outside knowledge and characters to compare- Still, great list. Mine would be: 1) Billy 2) Stu 3) Mickey 4) Jill And the rest are just there.
Amazing channel, I love everything you do. I just really think Stu is the best killer just off of entertainment value. Matthew Lillard is such a great actor and absolutely killed this role. I was so bummed out when they scrapped the script where he is the main villain in the 3rd one (it may be the 4th, I’m not too sure).
I love your rankings. I think you should include that Emma was fresh off Nick and was viewed as a child star so her role in this film is even more shocking!
i totally agree with jill being number one. she’s definitely in my top 3 favorite characters from the franchise, but that’s probably just because i love emma roberts.
Roman is underrated. He was the closest to do it and on top of that he did it by himself. Character 4/5 Kills 5/5 Ingenuity 5/5 Surprise 3/5 Motive 5/5 In my eyes he is the best one
The only thing I would change about this ranking, is Billy being in second and not first. My reasoning being that on top of all of the points mentioned that got Billy to a second place, he was the original killer and the first killer to reveal themselves as ghost face.
My ranking would probably go: 7. Roman 6. Charlie 5. Stu 4. Mickey 3. Mrs. Loomis 2. Jill 1. Billy Reasonings: 7. Biggest nothing character, weakest kills, even though they want to give him credit for Billy and Stu I don’t see it because of how well the killer in 1 were crafted. 6. I liked the idea of them pretty much remaking the characters in the first one and making two of the remade survivors the killers. He only is above Roman because of Olivia’s death 5. Stu’s Motive and the fact that he seems more like a pawn to Billy’s scheme makes him lower for me. 4. Mickey was pretty low before I watched this video and you video covering who killed who in scream 2. I’m still not a huge fan of his motive but I can give it some credit to the fact that it is original. But I still hate the fact that none of the killers are present at all in the third act as themselves. I don’t remember seeing loomis in the 3rd act until her reveal. 3. I loved how secretly smart Mrs. Loomis was. Seeing how she started switching to her left hand in the final act so the killings would trace to Mickey instead of her is really cool. Of course she only kills one person, so that is why she is here 2. My knock for her is how immature she seems. But her kills are pretty cool, and she was a great mastermind. Another knock is she killed Annie from Community. 1. I thought Billy was the most efficient and smartest killer. His ability to keeps things on schedule and adapt to when things could’ve gone wrong was good. Of course in the final act he doesn’t seem so efficient but compared to Stu who was very clumsy and it seemed that on most Stu chases, they got away. Even though there weren’t much, I loved Billy’s kills. His motive was also pretty cool, simple revenge but the addition that he didn’t stop at just killing Maurine was fucked up and cool.
Scream Season 1 handled the sibling twist way better than Scream 3. They at least made Emma and Piper form a close relationship with one another before pulling the rug from her and the audience. Also, I know they aren't Ghostface but different killers, but Piper and Keiran had my favorite phone calls. I feel like the dark atmosphere of the scenes the calls happened in helped elevate them. They especially did a good job at making the phone calls seem like it was Kaden James doing all the killing and dragging attention away from them until their final moments, though Kieran still almost got found out in Season 1, but that was because of other clues rather than his phone calls making it obvious Kaden James isn't the one responsible.
I am slightly biased by my rankings are 7) Roman 6) Charlie 5) Mrs loomis 4) Jill 3) Mickey 2) billy 1) Stu I pick Stu because he was one of the only characters to not have a revenge plot line and he would never be a suspect until the reveal.
I definitely agree with this list. I thought Billy would come in first but honestly when you see all of what Jill accomplished, even though her motive was bratty, she definitely is a little better
I hate it when people commenting on scream 4 and saying that Charlie did most of the killings or 99%, that's just one man's OPINION. Stop taking it as the real actual thing, it gets annoying.
I haven't seen Scream 4 yet, but there's something to be said about how the best and worst are in the same film. Tho I agree Roman is kind of a dud. I've seen 3 a few times and every time I just think "Who's this guy?" when Roman is revealed.
*(Request at the bottom)* I think I fully agree with your rankings of the Ghost Face Killers in Scream. I'm not sure if Mrs. Loomis or Roman Bridger is better but I wouldn't place them any higher than you have. Your reasoning and point system which determines their rank makes a lot of sense. Well done. I haven't seen Scream 2022 yet so I'm steering clear of any of your videos that may mention it until I see it and maybe several more times. You know one of my favorite things about movies is noticing the little things like easter eggs, clues etc that are hidden through the film. I love when film makers do that. But it's even more fun in any movie with a mystery. Scream always had a dark Scooby Doo and Clue feeling and that's probably why I love the franchise so much. Do you think you could come up with a list of movies, especially ones that are horror, that are full of clues and abundant with easter eggs but not list said clues, easter eggs etc in such a video? Ones that are also half as entertaining as Scream is a big bonus. Hope you consider this request and thanks for reading it. Kind regards and creepy phone calls to you Zack Cherry.
I would have given Mrs. Loomis higher marks. I agree it was the biggest surprise in all the franchise. There is nothing more lethal than a person who has suffered a terrible loss. I agree that Mrs. Loomis should have done more of the killing seeing as how integral her character turned out to be. I loved that Laurie Metcalf was involved in this movie. She is such a great actress. She made the perfect killer.
While, I think your pretty spot on with what you said, Stu is my favorite ghost face. Only for the fact, with how over the top he was he became my favorite character in the entire franchise. I actually found him to be the the biggest surprise to, because of how likable his character was. However, in retrospect looking at the profile of most serial killers maybe he should have been the most suspicious since most serial killers were actually likable "everymen"
Gotta say I honestly agree for the most part, although I think Stu shoulda had more points for motive, but understand your rating, but I think Jills surprise shoulda been 1, honestly I thought she was so predictable and the motive was so meh for me as well, but still I mostly agree and still found your insight interesting
All the killers have one thing in common. They all have an ER in the last name. Except the 2 Loomis characters. Robert's Walker Mocher Altieri Bridger see all of them have the er in that order
What would've been interesting is to see what Billy AND Jill could do considering their capabilities.Also, Jill probably could've done most of that without Charlie
I was hesitant to believe she has the stamina or strength to be a killer after the reveal but her fight at the hospital where she literally threw Sidney and smashed the hell out of Dewey proved that she was one vicious psychopath who would stop at nothing. It's scary given that she looks just like everyone else. Most psychos are.
I don’t doubt her physical capabilities, but I do doubt that she could do what they did AND play innocent to it all. Like sure maybe she had the strength and pure psychopathic mind to kill them, but to get away with it? Considering she had alibis during the murders and intended to have Charlie be the killer to the world, I really don’t think she would’ve gotten away with it without him killing for her.
Someone had pointed out a while back that when Tatum punches stu in his right shoulder in the school hallway, his reaction gives away that he was the one who attacked Sidney the night before as she kicked him in his right shoulder just as he was about to strike. So many little clues I hadn't seen in 25 years lol
I liked how you did the list, but I can't agree with you on not being able to take Stu seriously as a killer. What I love about Stu is that he is extremely funny and goofy, which is disarming and makes him very likeable. But seeing how much he revels in the hunt and the kill makes him more terrifying as you wouldn't have thought to fear him. He seems like the killer that will catch you unprepared and have you not see the danger before it was too late.
While this is true, they all came extremely close to killing Sidney. If they would’ve just shut their mouths and taken the shot/stab, boom evil wins. Instead they all wasted time talking. (Yes I know it’s for plot convenience).
Hmm. Jill, 5 out of 5 is the one thing out of this whole list that shocked me. Haha. Out of the whole series she is the one that I easily picked out the most. For pretty much the entire movie I was going "Ugh. It is her. Can we just move on with the rest of the movie now?" Been awhile since I saw the movie but that is just the one thing I remember. I can't even honestly recall the reasons or why I was tipped off but that is just the one thing I always remember about it is that to me her being the killer was extremely obvious. Everyone picked out Charlie that I talked to who watched it but honestly he didn't even register to me because I was too focused it on her. Hah. For scream one and two I can only look at for the most part in hindsight so Billy and Mickey always now will have the look of .... "Look at them, they just simply look like killers". However with Stu I do always do have that feeling of just feeling bad for him at the end. Just as the end went on and on just more and more of "Ooh.. Poor Stu. You're just being too likable but really pitiful as well." Now for Roman? Just meh. Nothing really remarkable. Surprise? Yes. But a good surprise? Not at all. And that bulletproof vest scene with him being shot multiple times but just shaking it off was cringe inducing. A bulletproof vest doesn't turn you into Superman. I imagine after being shot like that you'd be on the ground in agony maybe even coughing up blood or something. Cringing ..Cringe or laughable. Maybe both. As for Mrs. Loomis. A lot of that was pretty surprising. Though now looking back at a lot of horror franchises they really did like adding family members of the original killer in at some point. Some times as a protagonist and some times as the killer eventually. So my ranking is pretty much would be the same as yours except for the last 3 maybe. I know Charlie would be last, then Roman. 4 and 5 would be either or for me with Miss Loomis and Mickey. 3 might be Jill then since beyond the surprise for me everything else was fine. A lot more of what a modern day version of the killers would be. It is possible for me should could of dropped down for a 4th spot and Loomis or Mickey move up one but eh.. I think 3rd is fine for her. And although I don't always like saying "The original is best". I guess it would then be Stu and then Billy as first.
My ranking is this: 7) Charlie - Rory underacted as he did in Signs. Again, brought a portrayal of someone who really didn't have much of a personality. Maybe that made him seem mysterious, but in the end, he wanted to live up to Randy, and he was no where close to him. Randy could have made a better killer. 6) Rowan - Even though he was the mastermind, and he killed the most people, he was someone who (as mentioned) came across as someone who was whiny and arrogant. He may have put the wheels in motion, he acted mostly through a proxy (Billy) until the third movie when he became a spree killer. His motive technically would have been considered "unique" as his motives started before the first movie, but he acted in cowardice as well. 5) Mrs. Loomis - This is a tough one to rate. But while she was a schemer, she didn't participate in the murders (except to gut Randy due to his speaking ill of her son). However, she did have a motive (she lost her son AND her husband due to Sydney's family). If she would have actively killed more people, she'd have had a higher ranking. 4) Mickey - He was the main killer of the second movie. He had an original motive. He did most of the work... BUT it really wasn't that big of a surprise when he was revealed as the killer. He wasn't the one you'd least suspect. Mainly because he was a sociopath (not a psychopath as Mrs. Loomis described). He wasn't really manipulative. He didn't make the plans, he mainly followed orders and wasn't smart enough to realize that he was going to be double-crossed. 3) Stu - (Personal favorite of mine). Stu was a follower, and that did bring him down a few pegs, BUT he is the highest of the sociopaths. He suffered from the same flaw that Mickey had. If Stu was revealed to be the sole murderer in his movie, it wouldn't have been that big of a surprise. He wasn't too torn up that a girl he used to be with got killed. He seemed movie obsessed like Randy. He had the demeanor that he wasn't well in the head. The only reason he was kind of a surprise was because the notion of a partner was a fresh concept in the slasher genre. 2) Jill - Jill had an original motive. She was the one that was the biggest surprise. She had planned it out intricately. She killed her own mother and she stabbed her partner. However, I do find her motive to almost be almost TOO modern. Fame doesn't seem to be a big enough reason to go on a murderous rampage involving killing your own family. Once the fame was over, she'd be doomed to repeat the cycle, or kill herself. However, she was a psychopath, through and through, and managed to not only damage Sydney physically, but emotionally as well. 1) Billy - Billy wasn't too big of a surprise as far as murderers go, but he and Stu both accomplished something that no other killer had done. They murdered Sydney's mother, framed someone else for the murder, AND managed to have a cooling off period of at least a year. So, they had actually gotten AWAY with murder, and suppressed the desire to kill for a whole year. That is something that none of the other killers on this list accomplished. All killers were spree killers (as they killed a lot of people, with really short cooling off periods between kills). Billy fit the bill as a true psychopath. Sociopaths typically can not go that long between kills, and Stu probably had Billy to keep him from killing again. However, Billy planned out the perfect way to frame Cotton for killing Maureen. Stu may have come up with the idea to frame Sydney's father in the murder spree, BUT only because they had done that exact same thing a year prior with Maureen's death. Billy taught Stu where to stab (remember, don't go too deep) to make themselves look like the only survivors.
I find Charlie's reaction emotionally when he kills Kirby makes sense because you can see a glimpse of regret in his choice that was orchestrated by Jill. Jill was his puppet master. He really liked Kirby and when she finally reciprocated interest, Jill had already taken them too far for him to go back. You can see that he really regretted having to off Kirby but he had kills rules to follow.
Stu is just amazing and needs to be back in the series like craven wanted to do in the 3rd movie 😓 The video store scene when he's behind Randy with a psychotic smile on his face is probably my favourite scene throughout the entire series
A thought: Billy wanting revenge: yes its been done and is THE motive for most of the killers moving forward so its been done BUT... if you think about it from another angle: definitely with the original its a satire of classic horror movies especially slashers. That's keeping in line with so many other tropes the first one did perfectly but still put it on its head. 90% of the time (especially pre-Scream) the motive for revenge in these types of movies was someone died years earlier & the killer knows who's responsible. In this case, it was, for lack of a better way to put it, much more "mundane" in the grand scheme of things that possibly could have happened to cause Billy snap: his dad had an affair and as is easily the case in many of those situations his parents divorce. I know it was just an act for him but when he said "You know... Mom's leave" like it was nothing that was the ironic part of it: YES it sucks and the reason(s) why sometimes suck big time but people DO get divorced.
Jill has 1/5 kills, she kills only 1 or 2 people. Charlie kills everyone, Jill governs only. And Mickey was a serial killer before meeting with mrs Loomis.
Heyo, gimme your rankings!
Heyyo? Any chance are you a Scott Hall fan lol
7- Mrs. Lumis
6- Charlie Walker
5- Roman Bridger
4- Jill Prescott
3- Mickey
2- Stu
1- Billy
@@eastmanfeatures5412 awesome 👍🔪
@@festuser2 Nope haha. I even had to look him up as I had no idea 🙂
Billy and Stu
Stu had the best motive. Peer pressure im far to sensitive
So many great one liners.
@@ZackCherry i thought Casey and Steve's death was from billie
@@life_with_logan9691 I always thought Casey and Steve was a joint effort, the whole "which door am I at?" part always led me to believe that both killers were there, so it wouldn't have mattered which door Casey picked.
@@uniquerebeljaney3639 true
Casey death was said to be a team effort but Stu killed her though and Billy hung her from the tree the deaths actually not hard to figure out who did it
there's absolutely no arguing the fact that billy and stu were the best ghostface killers from character development to motive to creativity, even down to likeability - however jill came the close to actually achieving her goals and very nearly got a way with it; far more than any of the other 6 previous killers managed. Billy and stu are without a doubt the soul of the franchise and it would be incredibly hard to top what was created through them, but you've got to hand it to jill at how far she got and how close she was to her endgame overall.
character development 💀
No.
@@sm1le396 What?
Roman definitely had the best motive
True but sadly, her whole motive and Charakter was trash. I mean: she got jealous because Sidney became famous through losing all her friends, two boyfriends included? And she got so jealous and wanted to be fame so bad that she’s ready to kill all her friends and her own mother? I mean yea sure psycho and all that but please that’s ridiculous. And while it’s quiet creative it’s still just dumb. Change my mind
Jill Roberts to me was the closest one who could’ve gotten away with EVERYTHING and close to doing what others failed to do which is actually injuring Sidney.
Too bad she got a little ahead of herself and slipped up in the end.
Zack Cherry Too bad? Thankfully! I don’t want her to win
@@Sebastian04223 i wanted her to win lol. i liked her too much.
I'd of loved to of seen Jill continue on as a survivor it would have been interesting knowing she's actually the killer and we follow a completely different narrative that we'd be fresh and different
The original plan was to let her win but last minute it got changed
a Ghostface with the character of Billy, the kills of Charlie, the ingenuity of Jill, the surprise of Mrs. Loomis, and the motive of Mickey would be unstoppable
True. And they would successfully get away with it.
Charlie didn't kill anyone. Kirby is alive and she is the only person he attacked
He’s confirmed to have killed Olivia, Rebecca and Robbie.
And the gadgets of Roman
@@youngbunny2005 Charlie a tué 3 personnes.
Stu Macher's "Peer pressure, I'm far too sensitive" line, explaining his motive was meant to be funny. Even when revealed to be a killer he's making a joke out of everything doing his job as one of the comic relief characters. Also, I've never seen a comic relief character turn out to be one of the villains in another movie but someone correct me if I'm wrong there?
The “I’m far too sensitive” line is referencing a scene that was written but never filmed right before Stu’s party where Billy calls him a butt wart and Stu gets offended. Billy says something along the lines of he was just kidding and “im just trying to toughen you up, you’re far too sensitive!” The scene was scrapped because it was too much of a dead giveaway as to who the killer was. Just a fun fact!
Revealed to be a killer hes making a joke out of everything doing his job as on of the comic relief characters also, lve never seen a comic relief character turn out to be one of the villains in another movie 🎥 but someone correct me if im wrong there?
@@tayloranderson7547 What exactly was the point of just repeating the second half of what I said?...
Scary movie
Billy and Stu are the best face Duo of scream but I can't wait till part 5 comes out
agreed 💯
There is no scream 5 the creator wes craven died
@@theyluv.sqwilly9904 Actually there will be Scream 5 coming out in 2021!
It will be directed by Matt Bettinelli-olpin and Tyler Gillett!!!
I know!!!
I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!!
Let's just hope they manage to go all the way and not cancel 🤷🏻♂️
@@theyluv.sqwilly9904 News about casting just came out, so they haven't canceled it
@@theyluv.sqwilly9904 how sure are you?? I'm intrested
In romans defense, scream 3 was supposed to be a lot more Gory and violent but after the columbine massacre they had to tone it down a lot
True. But I think most of the deaths in these movies are pretty basic. Just simple stabbings. No innovation.
Zack Cherry true that
Zack Cherry Because of the columbine massacre, lol. You can see how toned down the whole thing is, compared to the original and the sequel. It’s like they were trying to make a PG13 version of it.
Which is why I love the Scream films. It's not a gory slasher genre. It's a basic stab them kind of films while being bloody but not gory.
Just how I love my Slasher films. I enjoy the first three films. Four wasn't my cup of tea.
No heads come off, hands come off and legs come off. Most of the time it's just quite a bit of blood. Not always showing guts a lot of them time. It only happens atleast 1 once or twice. Unfortunately I rather not see that. But hey these Slashers are fun and are not sickening as hell atleast like other slashers out there.
For me in first place is billy loomis “don’t fuck with the original” 😂
Exactly
I agree, but Roman was the true motivation for Billy to commit the massacre. I kinda give Roman the best because he didn’t Have lift a finger. Be easily manipulated the entire scream franchise. And he was by himself. He killed more people too
same
@@rayshardrobinson7878 yea but the 3rd movie was terrible and a lot of people including myself don’t even count it as canon lol
@@blackrangoanthony I’m
Not saying the movie was good. I was saying Roman was a interesting character that’s all.
1- Billy
2- Stu
3- Mickey
4- Jill
5- Mrs Loomis
6- Roman
7- Charlie
I agree with this list
Thanks for fixing the list
I think Mickey should be 2nd, not 3rd
Charlie has the largest kill count though.
@@aleksandarradovanovic8496 Yea, but the kills were so boring and uncreative. It was no fun watching those kills and its one of the worst movies with one of the worst killers. He also was by himself meaning he was obviously going to be the one to get more kills. Everyone else had help.
That kitchen scene in Scream 1 will NEVER be matched or surpassed!!!! It was/is truly epic and twisted in all of its wonderful brilliance!!!!
Stu is my favourite killer! But yeah he's not actually the best at 'killing'. I just have a soft spot for him!
His mum and dad are gonna be so mad at him 😟
Same
Zoinks!
Stu is great.
Same here 😂
Best ghostface is actually Danny Johnson from Dead by Daylight, with the award for "not fucking dying"
Not to mention has the highest kill counts, is never unmasked, and never got beaten by Sidney Prescott :P
@@jonathanmoore7096 you get me lmaoooo
Apunno Justice what can I say, I’m a Ghostface main lol
@@jonathanmoore7096 we stan a KING akhsdiskfs
To be fair he actually IS a really good ghostface with a pretty good motive, okay method and also he's extremely cunning.
Jill is definitely my favorite GhostFace, she really thought out a plan whether Sydney was able to survive it (weirdly) and I loved where she kept hurting herself to set up her plan!! Really well done
Thank you 😊
she was the closest to outsmarting Sidney
Don't say stupid things.
@@bronzemuseum504 No.
@@bronzemuseum504 no she wasn’t
I wanted Jill Roberts to get away with it so badly. Imagine if the Final Girl was the killer? Imagine if a copycat killer wanted fame like her, and they decided to make the hunter into the hunted. That would have been amazing.
My husband and I had this very conversation yesterday! Ghostface-turned-Final-Girl would've been so original. For extra fun, Sidney would still survive but have no memory of what happened, which would place Jill in the awkward position of trying to revel in her newfound fame while also trying not to jog Sidney's memory.
that was kevin williamson’s original script idea for 5.
My thoughts exactoy
I mean i'd want her to actually have killed her cousin and not slip up on the Gale injuries matching hers, then make Scream 5, Jill survived 4 and becomes the third killer in 5, tutoring the other 2,acting like a boss till she gets stabbed by Amber while being told that's she's such a Bitch
@@YDKMFS that's so childish and stupid
Mickey was always my favourite. He was cunning and charismatic. He worked his ass off to rack up his body count with some rather impressive kills. Not to mention how he was able to use Sidney's trauma and trust issues to manipulate and torment her.
Lolll facts and I love his line " BILLYSSSS.......MOTHER! "
For me personally, when I think Ghostface, ITS ALL ABOUT THE PHONE CALLS. Micheal Myers has his stalking, Freddy Krueger has the dream sequences, Jason has the most inventive kills, Ghostface has the phone call taunts.
Jill and Billy had the best phone calls. Jill imo, is the Best Ghostface. Came the closest to getting away with it, least suspected, and did it all in the age of social media and caller ID. A lot harder to sneak around and taunt people when everyone has a camera in their pocket.
I totally agree Jill was amazing. Well thought out and I never imagined it until the reveal as she was being set up, as Zack said, the final girl.
Yeah that's why Scream 4 is my second favorite of the movies, behind Scream 1 of course lol.
Like Jill was so freaking likeable and was constantly being attacked, and she was the protagonist, and Sidney's niece, like she had everything going for her not being the killer, I just finished the movie and I already had Charlie pegged but HOLY CRAP when Jill took off her mask.
MY jaw DROPPED and I let out an audible gasp and said "HOLY CRAP, JILL NO!!"
My god Scream 4 was good haha
Icybubba I probably would never have seen it coming but it had been spoiled for me before hand so I knew she was the killer all along unfortunately
They had the killer actor who made all the calls do it away from the actors and off the sets, so they never really interacted or met the person who did it.
@@Icybubba Jill was Sidney’s cousin, not her niece... their mothers were sisters. Jill’s mother even says so while they’re cleaning up from dinner.
Matthew Lillard was absolutely amazing in Scream, he made the character a 5/5 in my opinion.
Lmao facts. Matthew lillards peformance was incredible. As Zach said “I can’t really take stu too seriously as a killer” i see his point tho, stu’s goofiness, clumsiness, you just can’t take him too seriously as a killer. No other killer in the scream franchise acts the way stu acts. But definitely an amazing performer by Matthew lillard.
I always thought Mickey was Stu and billy in one character
interesting 🤔
I think he's Billy, Stu & Randy in one character.
@@jeeither i agree in totally meant to add randy to this list. Imagine if Micky never died and gave us the rules from jail
@@PlayStopRewindFilms he would too. Anything to be in the mix.
I knew the diff but definitely confused Matthew Lillard with Timothy Olyphant for a good few years. Until one of them aged like a fine wine and the other like an old handbag, now it's easy.
Stu had a very human motive besides being insane. Casey dumped him for Steve. This broke his heart. She humiliated him and he wasn't going to take it sitting down. He also was never a fully sane person. He did look up to Billy Loomis a lot.
Possibly even gay for Billy. If anything I think Stu was bi or just straight. He mentions “I always had a thing for you Sid!” Either way he’s my fav character in the series (even tho he only got to appear in one movie)
Stu had a very human motive besides board besides belonging insane. Casey dumped him for Steve this broke his heart and he'll make it him and he wouldn't go to ticket sit down he also finally insist the person. He didn't look up to Billy Loomis at all Billy Loomis a lot
@@connordougherty9860 Stu and Billy are apparently based off of real Gay killers so. I thought both of them were bisexual until I found that out
Ah yes, very human motive, killing others because of a girl
My personal rankings:
7. Roman: mainly due to poor writing and censorship on gore after Columbine
6. Mickey: Boring character that was "saved" by an interesting last seen.
5. Charlie: Slightly more interesting than Mickey, and had the 2nd best kill of the franchise (imo)
4. Billy's Mother: A believable killer with a true motive. She also effectively used Mickey as a pawn to eventually (almost) get to Sidney.
3. Jill: While the planning and motive was better than Stu, it's harder to believe that she could fight/kill due to her size/fighting ability. The story around her is awesome, however.
2. Stu: Favorite character imo. Just a crazy dude who wants to help his friend. Aside from the excellent writing, the first movie was so successful because Stu and Billy were so believable as killers.
1. Billy: Motive, knowledge of horror, use of phone calls. This is the perfect killer. Calm and collected, but still bat-shit crazy internally is a scary thought. Stu was more obvious that he was crazy, but Billy had a sadistic mindset that makes viewers wonder what people around them think of.
Sane bro
same
Nope i think jill tops everyone
@@nitinnegi4986 i just finished scream 4 and billy remains #1
Deadass once Roman was revealed I was like “who are you again?”
Going off of your categories my ranking is:
7. Charlie (Complete waste except to be betrayed later)
6. Mrs. Loomis (Almost too forgettable since she wasn't integral to the story at all until the end)
5. Mickey (Again, although a great killer, he was just a psycho rather than having a realistic motive and he does just disappear halfway through the movie)
4. Jill (Yes she was creative, but her motive of wanting to be popular based off of surviving a massacre makes her seem childish to me)
3. Roman (So yes he is whiny and forgettable as a character, however taking the ridiculousness out of Scream 3, he has the highest body count, works alone, faked his own death, had a bullet proof vest and that voice changer. So in technical terms he is the best at being a killer for having covered the most bases plus he was proved to be the cause of the first 3 movies so in essence he is the final boss of scream [It's a shame the movie had the gore turned down and the script rewritten])
2. Stu (He is calculated but also hilariously psychotic at the same time)
1. Billy (Even though he was the definition of it's always the boyfriend, he was able to use his knowledge of movies, manipulation of Stu + others, and violent tendencies to create a horror movie, seem more innocent than he should have been, and almost nearly exact revenge that he so crazily desired)
Okay, you gave me more respect for Roman.
@@babyfaceweeb8937 Thank you. The killer's strategies is the redeeming factor to an otherwise poorly made movie.
I like your list tbh. Everyone out here loving Jill a lot and yeah she was interesting and all that but damn she didn’t hardly do any of the dirty work necessary for her scheme to work. Without Charlie (who I legit forgot his name even tho I just watched The Who Killed Who for scream 4 lol) she wouldn’t have gotten as far as she did and the credit “got the closest to achieving her goal” isn’t really accurate anymore if he’s removed from the equation. Idk man it’s interesting how many people are hyping her up when she just seemed like a psychotic brat who didn’t do much of the leg work 😂
Well, I can defend Jill of being Childish because, well... she is a teenager (not my favourite killer, tho, but she almost accomplished her goal)
The other thing, I would never put Billy Loomis at the top of a list. It makes me think people just like him for being the villain in the Original movie. He was too obvious throughout the entire movie! Also Stu, both acted crazy, both weren't charming at all, and Loomis motives were... well... too basic (yeah, I prefered Stu's motive). I could give more points to his mother over him in that aspect... In retrospective, none of the killer were good enough for me as everyone is missing something (and I love the entire Franchise lol)
Agree with your list
I actually figured out Jill was the killer while watching Scream 4 for the first time in the cinema. When Sidney talks to Ghostface on the phone (the first time I think),Ghostface loses "his" composure and says something along the lines of Sidney being selfish and not thinking about everyone she abandoned. So that made it pretty obvious according to me.
I was the opposite . . Jill surprised me the most in the end with the reveal. After she wasn't under the bed I suspected it could be her but I think her being "attacked" at Olivia's and watching her death completely threw me off her trail!
@@matthewg504 ¿?
It's also not that surprising because they're related and Sidney knew her more than anyone else lmao
My Rankings:
7. Roman Bridger (why do people like him?)
6.Debbie Loomis
5. Charlie Walker
4. Mickey Altieri
3. Jill Roberts
2. Stu Macher
1. Billy Loomis
Right? I would like to hear more people's arguments that support him.
The reason why I ranked Charlie above Debbie and Roman is because he was great in behind the mask. He also has some of the best phone calls of the series, and I think that his reveal is one of the most creative in the series. It doesn’t beat Stu’s and Billy’s, but I like the suspense and how it played out. Basically Roman and Debbie sucks with the mask on and off, but Charlie doesn’t suck with his mask on.
People like Roman because without him none of this would've happened. He is the Architect of this lineage of serial killers.
Jeffrey Doe Thank you. He’s behind everything yet people act as if the overall story would work without him.
Absolutely agree, I think yours is the beat ranking!
For me, Roman was the biggest shocker. First off because he was already presumed dead... but the plot of him being Sidney’s brother & architect of the first movie, just hit me hard. I actually was really upset when he was killed because I kinda wanted him & Sid to have a relationship. She had been through hell and back the last three films I just thought it was rather poetic that she now had a (half) brother.
I think Mrs. Loomis was the best. Nobody does crazy eyes like Laurie Metcalfe. She had the best motive too: A Mother's Love.
@P i s c e Yeah but let’s be real she was the only one that had a legit reason for wanting Sidney dead. Sidney didn’t sleep with Billy’s dad that was Maureen.. Sidney had nothing to do with that... Sidney didn’t give Roman up for adoption that was Maureen... so why would they want Sidney dead instead of ending it with Maureen? I see no point in Sidney having to pay for her mothers mistakes ... and Jill wanted to become Sidney more than kill her so it was never about Sidney... Jills motive was dumb, she did it all for attention? That’s stupid.
yeah, but that's been kinda done to death
My Ranking:
7 - Charlie
6 - Mrs. Loomis
5 - Roman
4 - Mickey
3 - Billy
2 - Jill
1 - Stu (because I LOVE his character and Matthew was insane acting in this role)
Solid ranking 👍
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Stu - My favorite killer "My mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me" "Peer pressure, I'm far too sensitive" priceless
Billy - The best looking killer for sure, but it was the "is he the killer? No he can't be the killer" flip flop that does it for me. He was almost the "too obvious so it can't be him" choice
Jill - She really could have gotten away with it and played up the "final girl" thing. One of the only Ghostface's I had zero suspicion of
Roman - The mastermind behind it all so he deserves some credit. He probably was a lame killer because he didn't expect he would have to kill (Billy and Stu failed)
Mrs. Loomis - she was intense but had great motivation. A good twist too, didn't really expect that one.
Mickey - I didn't know his character well enough to care he was a killer, it wasn't a shocking reveal
Charlie - I feel like they tried to make him a Randy 2.0 and then made him the lamest killer. Idk
What are the other Ghostfaces that you didn't had zero suspicion?
@@scottchaison1001 Jill, Mrs Loomis and Mickey- I didn't suspect any of them
I completely agree with your rankings, and here's why:
#7) Charlie Walker was a self-pitying, whiny jerk who basically allowed his psycho classmate to manipulate him into being her patsy because he was angry that the girl he really liked wouldn't make he first move. When she finally did, he stabbed her... though probably less than he would have if she never did. Ugh. He was such a loser.
#6) Roman Bridger does not fall into last place because he singlehandedly masterminded the Hollywood killing spree. So he has a brain. Unfortunately, he was also a whiny, self-pitying jerk who couldn't move on with his life. He was a loser. Plus, the whole "I've actually been someone else the whole time that you didn't know" soap opera plot twist is such a cheat when it comes to solving a mystery, because it's something we never could have guessed prior.
#5) Mrs. Loomis. Most of the things I said about Roman also apply to her. She masterminded (and financed!) the Windsor College killing spree, but the soap opera plot twist of being Billy's mother was a cheat. Her presence was completely arbitrary prior to the big reveal. She ranks higher than Roman because Laurie Metcalf is one hell of an actress, and made her character work in a way that Scott Foley couldn't do for Roman or Rory Culkin for Charlie.
#4) Stu Macher. Ah, Stu, Stu, Stu. Landed smack in the middle, didn't you? Matthew Lillard made Stu completely believable as a lovable goof who was also a cold-blooded sociopath. Two flip sides of the same coin. Seems odd, but it works. Not particularly menacing, but completely believable.
#3) Mickey Altieri. The highest ranking patsy on this list. Sure, he was just doing Mrs. Loomis's dirty work, but Timothy Olyphant gave him a lot of sexy bad boy psycho charisma. His young Jack Nicholson smile doesn't hurt, either. He's like Christian Slater's character in Heathers with a gym membership.
#2) Billy Loomis. I don't believe in giving points for being the OG -- just because you got there first doesn't mean you did it best. In this case, though, he almost did. It's low on the surprise factor -- if the killer had been anyone who wasn't as close to Sid, the movie would not have been the classic it is. However, thanks to Skeet Ulrich's intense performance, it's still a devastating reveal. This one HURTS.
#1) Jill Roberts. No Ghostface reveal was more shocking than this one. The pure evil coming out of a seemingly sweet and innocent-looking girl who seemed poised to be the new Sidney was as shocking as it got, as it was the second time tat someone who Sid was really closed to turned out to be the one trying to destroy her. Although Emma Roberts played up the brattiness, which made her slightly less compelling than Billy as a character, her shallow motives were very believable, and her betrayal cut so deep that for the first time even Sidney looked defeated at the end. Dark, disturbing, twisted, and incredibly satisfying.
Definitely. The fact Jill did all of this because she wanted to be the final girl was great. Now a days where people just want to be famous regardless of what it takes on social media, it is very fitting. And same, I don't believe the whole OG points. Of course he was great, but if someone is better then that's it. Definitely was great too though.
I just found Jill annoying and unlikable, even before she was revealed as Ghostface. She wasn’t a villain that I loved to hate, I just wanted her to die as quickly as possible.
@@jamesedleymusic Agreed
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Billy and Stu will always be top 2 for me
Why Top 2?
@@scottchaison1001 I was separating them as 2 different killers. So one of them is number one and the other is number two
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Jill is definitely my favorite Ghostface! When I saw the movie in theaters I actually suspected anyone in that movie to be the killer except for Jill so I was SHOCKED and loved it!
I love the pure sadistic look in Mrs Loomis’ eyes when she reveals herself
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looks like every woman when they get mad
does that mean they are all crazy?
YES!!
Billy is #1 and Stu #2...as Randy says, sequels are inferior to the original. Being the first at something means ur also the best, everyone else is just copying you. 🤸
Yeah but you forgot Roman was the mastermind behind all of this. He manipulated young Billy and Stu to be the killers in the first film. His plan failed so he took care of it on his own by Scream 3 arrives.
@@adamazri928 Roman who?
@@adamazri928 No.
Finally someone who gives Jill credit. Too many people don’t compare her to originals but she’s amazing
yesss! jill definitely deserves first place, scream 4 might be one of my favorite movies of all time because of her, the shock, the plan, EVERYTHING about her. she's badass
Honestly, Roman is really underrated. Yes he had almost zero character development but as a Ghostface killer he is defenetly THE true mastermind and original killer behind the entire SCREAM franchise. Without him Billy and Stu wouldn’t kill Sidney’s mother, Billy’s mother wouldn’t want to revenge her son and without the massacers Jill wouldn’t be jealous of Sidney. So even tho his character wasn’t written the best way, he still is the one who started it all. Plus he was working all alone and unlike others he was smart enough to wear the bullet-proof vest (so that is smart and impresive).
Yeah, this list is bullshit, he completely fucked Roman, just because he didn't like the act Roman put on in public. His calls were the best, his kills were the best, he had the biggest balls, and he was the best, period. Roman *IS* Ghostface.
@@ermacjones4821 exactly, I respect his opinion but Roman just is the puppet master behind everything. And to be honest his motive is more understandable than most of the others, he isn’t crying baby with momy issues, he was dumped by his own mother just becose she didn’t want to think about her past and then started a new family with a new child, yeah to be honest I would feel betrayed and angry too if my own mother would dumped me for some bullshit and then had a new kid she would really love unlike me. So his motives were much better than motive of Mickey, Charlie, Stu, Richie and Amber. Yet everyone say trash about him.
@@cisarvitiate it's a damn shame, Roman is awesome.
This list is pretty accurate. I actually did feel that Jill was the best in a very long line of serial killers. Plus the fact she could switch from sensitive to psychotic pretty much sealed the deal for me.
Am I the only one that liked Roman Bridger? I thought it was cool having him be the sole killer and almost invisible throughout the movie... Also he gets extra point from me for killing Cotton Weary lol
Funny Depressive Yeah Roman is one of my favorites, probably more so than Billy and Stu. The whole idea of a director killing off his cast just to mess with his half sister and destroy the Prescott name.
I also loved the idea of a slasher horror in a film set. Roman hiding among all the Ghostface costumes to kill Sarah is probably one of the best scenes in the entire series.
I think he definitely deserves some respect for being the arc welder behind all of the Ghostfaces, though he’s not my favorite
What’s wrong with Cotton Weary?
No your not the only 1 who liked Roman Bridger He is the 1 who taught Billy everything he needed to know which makes Roman the Master -Mind Behind everything Giving Billy the motives and Stimulation he needed to become a killer they should give Roman more Credit than that .........i thought it was cool that he didn't need a partner for help almost invisible/Invincible , he was also very quick/Swift , and moved very fast/Quickly and faking his Death was really good especially when Gale went to check his Pulse to see if he was "Actually Really Dead and not Faking" Gale said he was Dead which makes Roman's surprise RANKING points Go up for faking his Death so Well and Fooling Gale and Jennifer Then in the 3rd 1 they finally show the Real Master-Mind Behind Sidney's Mother's Death which is Roman.
I hated Roman. They tried to retcon a guy who'd never been seen or mentioned in the previous 2 films into the mastermind behind everything and it was stupid. Billy going from finding out about his dad's affair with Maureen Prescott, getting Stu to help him kill her, planting a bloody coat he was wearing in Cotton's car to frame him and planning to pin their next killing spree all on Stu if they got caught on his own to being retconned into only doing those things because Roman, a guy he'd never met and had no reason to trust showed him footage of Maureen's affair with his dad was just a forced attempt to make a forgettable character an important part of the story. It made no sense. How did he manage to record Sidney, Dewey, Gale and Cotton's voices on his voice changer? And since he and Sidney didn't have any scenes before the reveal instead of the shock and betrayal she felt after finding out Billy, Stu, Mickey and Mrs Loomis were killers she was just confused and wondering who he even was.
Billy and Stu are easily 1&2 because "You dont fuck with the original"
But instead you fuckthe original
@@karlson1589 Don't say stupid things, the original is great.
Idc what you say
1. Billy
2. Stu
Yes just yes
1. *Billy Loomis* (The OG murdering mastermind. A sociopath that orchestrated all the murders and was the brains behind the scheme. I didn't really expect it to be him but I did love his and Stu's reveals as the killers.)
2. *Mickey Altieri* (To me he was equally psychotic in both his murders and the way he instilled fear and paranoia into Sydney in conversations with her without giving the game away. My sister likes to call him the Sneaky Slasher.)
3. *Debbie Loomis* (Equally as psychotic as her son she was equally a mastermind like him and used her cover story as a journalist to keep an eye on Gail and explain why she was close to crime scenes. I understand her reason the most for wanting to kill Sydney- revenge for her murdered son.)
4. *Stu Macher* (I like to think his involvement in the murders was peer pressure but after rewatching the film and the analysis of Casey and Steve's murders, he seemed like he was a sociopathic lunatic driven by revenge- Casey leaving him Steve- who liked the thrill of the kill and decided to continue, being led by Billy.)
4. *Jill Roberts* (I liked her storyline and the fact that she became so obsessed with gaining fame through 'new Woodsboro murders' that she was willing to kill her family. She reminded me of a new Billy Loomis as she even schemes against Charlie the other killer and kills him to look like the sole survivor. She even injures herself. She was delusional in thinking she be the new Sydney Prescott but overall she very nearly succeeded in getting away with the several murders she committed if she'd only checked if Sydney was still alive.)
6. *Roman Bridger* (I enjoyed his motive to why he wanted to be close to Sydney but because the audience didn't see his character much it took the shock value away so it wasn't as good a reveal as it could have been.)
7. *Charlie Walker* (I didn't like him. They tried to make him into Randy Meeks but it failed. And I hated him for betraying Kirby.)
I think Stu should be in the Top 2.
These are my exact same rankings! Great minds think alike.
@@cmajor886 No.
@@scottchaison1001 Ok that’s your opinion.🤷🏾♂️
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The perfect ranking 👍🏻 . But I think I’ll give Roman more points or credits because he work all alone without having any partner like all other ghostfaces don’t u think 🤔.
That's why he got a higher score for ingenuity. Fun fact: at one point Angelina was supposed to be his partner.
@@ZackCherry I think that would have made the movie much better.
@@Jack-mh2vn I don't. Roman is a boss, the boss in fact. He made Ghostface look like such a badass.
Randy being killed is still a massive mistake on Craven’s part
But it did push the remaining characters to the climax. It was a smart move for the Scream 2 film as it made us feel, but his lack of presence in the next films drastically effected the them negatively.
i still believe making him ghostface at one point would’ve been an AMAZING twist
No it wasn't. They needed to up the ante from scream by offing a beloved character and it worked beautifully. Scream 3 too for offing the hero of scream 2 cotton weary at the beginning.
@@markwalch6065 nah. Offing Cotton was a lot of people's final straw after losing Randy.
But they can't just keep the same characters each film in a series which pokes fun at the horror genre which famously claimed nobodies safe and all bets are off. I love Cotton and was sad he went but that to me shows they know what their doing x. Hoping 5 ups the ante a bit.
I just love Mickey man, his movie knowledge, combined with his charismatic personality, just made him one hell of a character. Not only that, but he's also very creative with his kills, Cici's was just iconic. I personally think he has the most interesting and best motive, the man really just wanted to get caught, and get fame for his case. Although I know he's not the smartest killer, I believe he has the most brawn and physical strength of all ghost face killers, it just upsets me when I see people say Mickey was boring, like, did we watch the same movie? The only thing that kind of dumbs down the character is the surprise, like on my first watch of Scream 2 I was like,: "Wait, who is that again?" When they revealed him, man really disappeared. Mickey is my personal favorite, but the best has to either go to Billy or Jill, maybe Stu.
My personal list would prob have to be
7.) Charlie (Just the "nice" guy who is way to damn gullible, I would admit, I would hate this guy if he really existed.)
6.) Mrs Loomis (Like excuse me, what?! I though you abandoned Billy, you want to go on a damn murder spree when you find out he's dead? Unrealistic.)
5.) Roman (I had to give the guy props for being prob the smartest killer, but I think all Scream fans have to come to an agreement that this is poor writing.)
4.) Stu (I really find him interesting, like his motive seems like such a mystery, like was he gay for Billy? Did he want revenge on Casey? Or did was he really just peer pressured by Billy? Also, without Matthew Lillard's performance, Stu could've been just like Charlie, this guy is hilarious af.)
3.) Jill (I find her reveal to be one of the biggest plot twists of all time, like I was sittin there like "It's gotta be Robbie, Robbie is the geek, wait, it's Trevor, he wants revenge." I just thought as Jill as some weird Sidney clone, until they revealed her, mind blown.)
2.) Billy (He's so damn charming, then creepy. You had yourself second guessing if it was him or not the whole movie, like you were thinking they were trying to make it obvious or something, he has to be the most iconic and most quotable. I find him to be the most scariest.
1.) Mickey (Obviously, you already heard my speech on Mickey. When you put a colorful personality, creative kills, and a great motive together, you just get this awesome and badass psycho.)
i watched Scream 4 for the first time with my parents a few months ago and we figured out Jill about halfway into the movie. she seemed like the new sidney and with her literal family ties to sidney we thought it had to be her because if you look at all of the MAIN killers (not the lapdogs) they are all related to sidney and/or have ties to the first movie (billy, billy’s mom, sid’s brother, sid’s cousin)
"did you really call the police?" "My mom and dad are going to be so mad at me" haha Stu was off the wall
Billy Loomis looks like a young Johnny Depp.
@Pre Google That’s because it is Johnny Depp. Lol
yeah i’ve always thought skeet ulrich and johnny depp in their youth could be related
I was thinking Christian slighter
@@razminfox1787 Christian Slaters deceptive cousin? lol
@@kristaVegas I mean they both played crazy killers ( JD heather and billy scream ) so feel more like psycho lost brothers
Billy my favourite he was creepy with good looks and charisma I like Mickey as well
They're both great!
I completely agree. Jill was without a doubt the best ghostface.
Definitely the most memorable.
She was so bitchy and unlikeable it did not surprise me she was this vicious and calculating.
Eric Lewis maybe not the most iconic but she was the closest one to get away with everything out of all the other ghostfaces.
@@adabong agreed, she was smarter than billy
Fuck nooooooo
1. Billy
2. Jill
3. Stu
4. Mickey
5. Ms Loomis
6. Charlie
7. Roman
Charlie is my favorite ghostface dude is pretty solid, he gets credit for giving the most brutal death in the series.
I would put Mickey over Stu
After seeing your "who killed who" videos, I'd say that Charlie and Jill need to be rescored.
Right?
Yeah, I figure a re-ranking would put her much lower at this point. Charlie does 90% of the work in the movie, getting the majority of the kills and phone calls, not to mention being the one handling the cameras.
Jill can barely even be considered a Ghost Face when you consider how little she actually does, which is good for her plan I guess, but it also makes her a bit of a Paper Tiger.
@@Saber0003 it's just one person's opinion, it's not factual that charlie did most of the work. Don't you see Jill at the end how she just killed Trevor without blinking shows that she has experience. When charlie stabbed Kirby, he was shaking. It's still a chance they did 50/50 of the work. U might find this hard to believe since u have done made up your mind however
@@kemarblake1854 Im open to the idea Jill may have done more, but the kills and timing just make it hard to say she had many opportunities.
At the end of the movie, charlie said his Robbie kill is better than his Jenny, Marnie, Olivia and kirbie kill on the webcam. And that's the main reason that I have for Jill killing Rebecca, the cops and her mom although I don't see how Jill could have killed her mom, she can't be so strong against two women pushing the door. But the rest yeah
Mrs. Loomis legit caught me by surprise, she was so insane and she a set in stone motive. She was the scariest in my opinion
Billy and stu will always be my favourite. THEY ARE THE ORIGINALS!
7 Roman, 6 Charlie, 5 Mrs. Loomis, 4 Jill, 3 Mickey, 2 Stu, 1 Billy, 2 and 3 was a really hard call for me. Great video Zack!
I’m subscribing because you asked us to consider it. Professionalism goes a long way. Also love the videos lol
1.Billy. He just played the role the best out of anyone imo.
2.Jill. She had a total surprise factor most people wouldn't see coming.
3. Mickey. He was an excellent crazy dude.
4. Roman. Just because all of this series other than 4 was his movie or design. The real movie he was trying to make was the murders.
5.Mrs. Loomis. It was another complete surprise that she would even be involved.
6. Stu. He was simply a better side kick than most and did a good job of being over the top and funny.
7. Charlie. Because obvious reasons. He sucked all the way around.
Mickey was clearly the best and the most dangerous Ghostface (and the hottest also)
... Yes roman started everything and acted alone but I don't think he was the strongest killer
Mickey/Timothy Olyphant is low key the best 😍
@@ZackCherry :)
Originally Roman is supposed to have a partner, ( Angelina) but script changed
And originally there's suppose to be 4 Ghostface in scream 2 Mrs Loomis, Mickey, Halie and.... Derek
@@marbre1318 Originally the killer in Scream 3 was supposed to be Stu
But the columbine massacre changed everything, and also you are talking about an alternative script for Scream 2
... Mickey and Mrs.Loomis were always supposed to be the killers. Don't trust articles on the web when they say "this was the original script" because this is completely false and Kevin Williamson said : "There was even a fake ending where Dewey was the killer. They existed as a decoy and nothing more. Extreme measures, but we really wanted to keep the killer’s identity a secret!"
MrHorror93700 Stu? Did they like fake his death with tv or?
Until rewatching Scream 4 just now I had completely forgotten there even was a second killer.
All I remembered was Emma Roberts.
Definitely gave Jill a lot more credit. She definitely came off as sus with her disappearing act and shady dialogue with Sidney. I would say a 3/5 in that category.
Also don't get why so many people downgrade Stu. His overacting shows how crazy he's becoming and thus adds to his character for me.
Overall- Seemed biased at some points. Bringing outside knowledge and characters to compare- Still, great list. Mine would be:
1) Billy
2) Stu
3) Mickey
4) Jill
And the rest are just there.
I personally believe Billy was the best with Stu in second but I can more than likely agree with every other rank; especially Charlie's.
Amazing channel, I love everything you do. I just really think Stu is the best killer just off of entertainment value. Matthew Lillard is such a great actor and absolutely killed this role. I was so bummed out when they scrapped the script where he is the main villain in the 3rd one (it may be the 4th, I’m not too sure).
I love your rankings. I think you should include that Emma was fresh off Nick and was viewed as a child star so her role in this film is even more shocking!
i totally agree with jill being number one. she’s definitely in my top 3 favorite characters from the franchise, but that’s probably just because i love emma roberts.
I really enjoy all of your scream videos!!
Roman is underrated. He was the closest to do it and on top of that he did it by himself.
Character 4/5
Kills 5/5
Ingenuity 5/5
Surprise 3/5
Motive 5/5
In my eyes he is the best one
1st is Roman
2nd is Billy
3rd is Mrs. Loomis
4th is Mickey
5th is Jill
6th is Stu
7th. Is Charlie
The only thing I would change about this ranking, is Billy being in second and not first. My reasoning being that on top of all of the points mentioned that got Billy to a second place, he was the original killer and the first killer to reveal themselves as ghost face.
My ranking would probably go:
7. Roman
6. Charlie
5. Stu
4. Mickey
3. Mrs. Loomis
2. Jill
1. Billy
Reasonings:
7. Biggest nothing character, weakest kills, even though they want to give him credit for Billy and Stu I don’t see it because of how well the killer in 1 were crafted.
6. I liked the idea of them pretty much remaking the characters in the first one and making two of the remade survivors the killers. He only is above Roman because of Olivia’s death
5. Stu’s Motive and the fact that he seems more like a pawn to Billy’s scheme makes him lower for me.
4. Mickey was pretty low before I watched this video and you video covering who killed who in scream 2. I’m still not a huge fan of his motive but I can give it some credit to the fact that it is original. But I still hate the fact that none of the killers are present at all in the third act as themselves. I don’t remember seeing loomis in the 3rd act until her reveal.
3. I loved how secretly smart Mrs. Loomis was. Seeing how she started switching to her left hand in the final act so the killings would trace to Mickey instead of her is really cool. Of course she only kills one person, so that is why she is here
2. My knock for her is how immature she seems. But her kills are pretty cool, and she was a great mastermind. Another knock is she killed Annie from Community.
1. I thought Billy was the most efficient and smartest killer. His ability to keeps things on schedule and adapt to when things could’ve gone wrong was good. Of course in the final act he doesn’t seem so efficient but compared to Stu who was very clumsy and it seemed that on most Stu chases, they got away. Even though there weren’t much, I loved Billy’s kills. His motive was also pretty cool, simple revenge but the addition that he didn’t stop at just killing Maurine was fucked up and cool.
I so appreciate you using a "rubric" to justify your rankings! Great video!
Scream Season 1 handled the sibling twist way better than Scream 3. They at least made Emma and Piper form a close relationship with one another before pulling the rug from her and the audience. Also, I know they aren't Ghostface but different killers, but Piper and Keiran had my favorite phone calls. I feel like the dark atmosphere of the scenes the calls happened in helped elevate them. They especially did a good job at making the phone calls seem like it was Kaden James doing all the killing and dragging attention away from them until their final moments, though Kieran still almost got found out in Season 1, but that was because of other clues rather than his phone calls making it obvious Kaden James isn't the one responsible.
I am slightly biased by my rankings are
7) Roman
6) Charlie
5) Mrs loomis
4) Jill
3) Mickey
2) billy
1) Stu
I pick Stu because he was one of the only characters to not have a revenge plot line and he would never be a suspect until the reveal.
Stu is also my favorite! My favorite character in the entire series. I love Matthew Lillard 💜
Stu all the way
Bayleigh Cooke you put charlie under roman?
I definitely agree with this list. I thought Billy would come in first but honestly when you see all of what Jill accomplished, even though her motive was bratty, she definitely is a little better
Your editing has definitely gotten better, Zack! Good job!
Thanks James! lemme tell ya tho, my sleep has gotten worse haha
@@ZackCherry Haha, That's the sacrifice necessary for good editing, sometimes.
@@ReelJames It's so true. There's gotta be a balance though.
I hate it when people commenting on scream 4 and saying that Charlie did most of the killings or 99%, that's just one man's OPINION. Stop taking it as the real actual thing, it gets annoying.
1 - Billy
2 - Mickey
3 - Stu
4 - Charlie/Jill
6 - Debbie
7 - Roman
I haven't seen Scream 4 yet, but there's something to be said about how the best and worst are in the same film. Tho I agree Roman is kind of a dud. I've seen 3 a few times and every time I just think "Who's this guy?" when Roman is revealed.
I think it's Stu macher who is the best killer of all time favorite.
"my mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me" & "peer pressure, I'm far too sensitive"
How can you not love Stu?
Because Stu is much scarier than Billy Loomis
I Love Stu because he is Funny and kind I Love him For a huge fan ❤️
I love him but he is far from being the best killer in the franchise
I think that billy is the first best and roman is the second best out of all of them.
Well I can’t agree with Roman, but I’m with ya on billy 👍
Loooove Roman as the killer
Had they gone with original script and Roman had an accomplice maybe.
But the dudes a fucking shit head
I'm far from dissatisfied with this ranking... great job 💯🥳💕
*(Request at the bottom)* I think I fully agree with your rankings of the Ghost Face Killers in Scream. I'm not sure if Mrs. Loomis or Roman Bridger is better but I wouldn't place them any higher than you have. Your reasoning and point system which determines their rank makes a lot of sense. Well done. I haven't seen Scream 2022 yet so I'm steering clear of any of your videos that may mention it until I see it and maybe several more times. You know one of my favorite things about movies is noticing the little things like easter eggs, clues etc that are hidden through the film. I love when film makers do that. But it's even more fun in any movie with a mystery.
Scream always had a dark Scooby Doo and Clue feeling and that's probably why I love the franchise so much. Do you think you could come up with a list of movies, especially ones that are horror, that are full of clues and abundant with easter eggs but not list said clues, easter eggs etc in such a video? Ones that are also half as entertaining as Scream is a big bonus. Hope you consider this request and thanks for reading it. Kind regards and creepy phone calls to you Zack Cherry.
I would have given Mrs. Loomis higher marks. I agree it was the biggest surprise in all the franchise. There is nothing more lethal than a person who has suffered a terrible loss. I agree that Mrs. Loomis should have done more of the killing seeing as how integral her character turned out to be. I loved that Laurie Metcalf was involved in this movie. She is such a great actress. She made the perfect killer.
Because let's face it Sid... Your mother was no Sharon Stone
While, I think your pretty spot on with what you said, Stu is my favorite ghost face. Only for the fact, with how over the top he was he became my favorite character in the entire franchise. I actually found him to be the the biggest surprise to, because of how likable his character was. However, in retrospect looking at the profile of most serial killers maybe he should have been the most suspicious since most serial killers were actually likable "everymen"
Gotta say I honestly agree for the most part, although I think Stu shoulda had more points for motive, but understand your rating, but I think Jills surprise shoulda been 1, honestly I thought she was so predictable and the motive was so meh for me as well, but still I mostly agree and still found your insight interesting
All the killers have one thing in common. They all have an ER in the last name. Except the 2 Loomis characters.
Robert's
Walker
Mocher
Altieri
Bridger see all of them have the er in that order
Jill is definitely my favorite!
Jill was so much fun as the killer
Good work Zack :)
My ranking:
1. Billy Loomis
2. Stu Macher
3. Roman Bridger
4. Mickey Altieri
5. Jill Roberts
6. Charlie Walker
7. Mrs. Loomis
Very nice. Thanks for your rankings, Rafal!
@@ZackCherry Thx.
Mrs Loomis reveal always gave me Mrs Voorhees vibes
Roman over Jill? You’re crazy.
This list is very sexist lmao
What would've been interesting is to see what Billy AND Jill could do considering their capabilities.Also, Jill probably could've done most of that without Charlie
I was hesitant to believe she has the stamina or strength to be a killer after the reveal but her fight at the hospital where she literally threw Sidney and smashed the hell out of Dewey proved that she was one vicious psychopath who would stop at nothing. It's scary given that she looks just like everyone else. Most psychos are.
I don’t doubt her physical capabilities, but I do doubt that she could do what they did AND play innocent to it all. Like sure maybe she had the strength and pure psychopathic mind to kill them, but to get away with it? Considering she had alibis during the murders and intended to have Charlie be the killer to the world, I really don’t think she would’ve gotten away with it without him killing for her.
Someone had pointed out a while back that when Tatum punches stu in his right shoulder in the school hallway, his reaction gives away that he was the one who attacked Sidney the night before as she kicked him in his right shoulder just as he was about to strike.
So many little clues I hadn't seen in 25 years lol
I liked how you did the list, but I can't agree with you on not being able to take Stu seriously as a killer. What I love about Stu is that he is extremely funny and goofy, which is disarming and makes him very likeable. But seeing how much he revels in the hunt and the kill makes him more terrifying as you wouldn't have thought to fear him. He seems like the killer that will catch you unprepared and have you not see the danger before it was too late.
This ranking couldn't be more accurate, Jill was the freakest of all the killers, she was the only one who almost killed Sidney. She deserves honor
While this is true, they all came extremely close to killing Sidney. If they would’ve just shut their mouths and taken the shot/stab, boom evil wins. Instead they all wasted time talking. (Yes I know it’s for plot convenience).
Hmm. Jill, 5 out of 5 is the one thing out of this whole list that shocked me. Haha. Out of the whole series she is the one that I easily picked out the most. For pretty much the entire movie I was going "Ugh. It is her. Can we just move on with the rest of the movie now?" Been awhile since I saw the movie but that is just the one thing I remember. I can't even honestly recall the reasons or why I was tipped off but that is just the one thing I always remember about it is that to me her being the killer was extremely obvious. Everyone picked out Charlie that I talked to who watched it but honestly he didn't even register to me because I was too focused it on her. Hah.
For scream one and two I can only look at for the most part in hindsight so Billy and Mickey always now will have the look of .... "Look at them, they just simply look like killers". However with Stu I do always do have that feeling of just feeling bad for him at the end. Just as the end went on and on just more and more of "Ooh.. Poor Stu. You're just being too likable but really pitiful as well."
Now for Roman? Just meh. Nothing really remarkable. Surprise? Yes. But a good surprise? Not at all. And that bulletproof vest scene with him being shot multiple times but just shaking it off was cringe inducing. A bulletproof vest doesn't turn you into Superman. I imagine after being shot like that you'd be on the ground in agony maybe even coughing up blood or something. Cringing ..Cringe or laughable. Maybe both.
As for Mrs. Loomis. A lot of that was pretty surprising. Though now looking back at a lot of horror franchises they really did like adding family members of the original killer in at some point. Some times as a protagonist and some times as the killer eventually.
So my ranking is pretty much would be the same as yours except for the last 3 maybe. I know Charlie would be last, then Roman. 4 and 5 would be either or for me with Miss Loomis and Mickey. 3 might be Jill then since beyond the surprise for me everything else was fine. A lot more of what a modern day version of the killers would be. It is possible for me should could of dropped down for a 4th spot and Loomis or Mickey move up one but eh.. I think 3rd is fine for her. And although I don't always like saying "The original is best". I guess it would then be Stu and then Billy as first.
Id put billy over Emma any day. But the rest I agree with. Billy will always be the O.G with the slickest scariest calls and twisted killings.
My ranking is this:
7) Charlie - Rory underacted as he did in Signs. Again, brought a portrayal of someone who really didn't have much of a personality. Maybe that made him seem mysterious, but in the end, he wanted to live up to Randy, and he was no where close to him. Randy could have made a better killer.
6) Rowan - Even though he was the mastermind, and he killed the most people, he was someone who (as mentioned) came across as someone who was whiny and arrogant. He may have put the wheels in motion, he acted mostly through a proxy (Billy) until the third movie when he became a spree killer. His motive technically would have been considered "unique" as his motives started before the first movie, but he acted in cowardice as well.
5) Mrs. Loomis - This is a tough one to rate. But while she was a schemer, she didn't participate in the murders (except to gut Randy due to his speaking ill of her son). However, she did have a motive (she lost her son AND her husband due to Sydney's family). If she would have actively killed more people, she'd have had a higher ranking.
4) Mickey - He was the main killer of the second movie. He had an original motive. He did most of the work... BUT it really wasn't that big of a surprise when he was revealed as the killer. He wasn't the one you'd least suspect. Mainly because he was a sociopath (not a psychopath as Mrs. Loomis described). He wasn't really manipulative. He didn't make the plans, he mainly followed orders and wasn't smart enough to realize that he was going to be double-crossed.
3) Stu - (Personal favorite of mine). Stu was a follower, and that did bring him down a few pegs, BUT he is the highest of the sociopaths. He suffered from the same flaw that Mickey had. If Stu was revealed to be the sole murderer in his movie, it wouldn't have been that big of a surprise. He wasn't too torn up that a girl he used to be with got killed. He seemed movie obsessed like Randy. He had the demeanor that he wasn't well in the head. The only reason he was kind of a surprise was because the notion of a partner was a fresh concept in the slasher genre.
2) Jill - Jill had an original motive. She was the one that was the biggest surprise. She had planned it out intricately. She killed her own mother and she stabbed her partner. However, I do find her motive to almost be almost TOO modern. Fame doesn't seem to be a big enough reason to go on a murderous rampage involving killing your own family. Once the fame was over, she'd be doomed to repeat the cycle, or kill herself. However, she was a psychopath, through and through, and managed to not only damage Sydney physically, but emotionally as well.
1) Billy - Billy wasn't too big of a surprise as far as murderers go, but he and Stu both accomplished something that no other killer had done. They murdered Sydney's mother, framed someone else for the murder, AND managed to have a cooling off period of at least a year. So, they had actually gotten AWAY with murder, and suppressed the desire to kill for a whole year. That is something that none of the other killers on this list accomplished. All killers were spree killers (as they killed a lot of people, with really short cooling off periods between kills). Billy fit the bill as a true psychopath. Sociopaths typically can not go that long between kills, and Stu probably had Billy to keep him from killing again. However, Billy planned out the perfect way to frame Cotton for killing Maureen. Stu may have come up with the idea to frame Sydney's father in the murder spree, BUT only because they had done that exact same thing a year prior with Maureen's death. Billy taught Stu where to stab (remember, don't go too deep) to make themselves look like the only survivors.
I find Charlie's reaction emotionally when he kills Kirby makes sense because you can see a glimpse of regret in his choice that was orchestrated by Jill. Jill was his puppet master. He really liked Kirby and when she finally reciprocated interest, Jill had already taken them too far for him to go back. You can see that he really regretted having to off Kirby but he had kills rules to follow.
I’d have swapped Billy and Jill but that might be because I’m a sucker for Skeet Ulrich as much as I’m a sucker for Billy Loomis 😂😂
Jill: the real reason to watch Scream 4 ❤️
Stu is just amazing and needs to be back in the series like craven wanted to do in the 3rd movie 😓 The video store scene when he's behind Randy with a psychotic smile on his face is probably my favourite scene throughout the entire series
A thought: Billy wanting revenge: yes its been done and is THE motive for most of the killers moving forward so its been done BUT... if you think about it from another angle: definitely with the original its a satire of classic horror movies especially slashers. That's keeping in line with so many other tropes the first one did perfectly but still put it on its head. 90% of the time (especially pre-Scream) the motive for revenge in these types of movies was someone died years earlier & the killer knows who's responsible. In this case, it was, for lack of a better way to put it, much more "mundane" in the grand scheme of things that possibly could have happened to cause Billy snap: his dad had an affair and as is easily the case in many of those situations his parents divorce. I know it was just an act for him but when he said "You know... Mom's leave" like it was nothing that was the ironic part of it: YES it sucks and the reason(s) why sometimes suck big time but people DO get divorced.
Jill has 1/5 kills, she kills only 1 or 2 people. Charlie kills everyone, Jill governs only.
And Mickey was a serial killer before meeting with mrs Loomis.
Billy and Stu were easily the best duo, I'm just stating a fact here