Would love to see a video where you rank each Ghostface in the movies. Not the killers underneath the mask, but Ghostface as a character, his brutality, Roger Jackson's performance, etc.
@@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE I don't recall seeing that, may have been an older video but what I mean is purely how Ghostface looks, acts and kills.
Ethan being the killer was pretty obvious, not going in but after like 45 minutes into the film the dude was hanging around way too long literally doing nothing 😂😂
I mean to be fair, by that point the apartment killing happened and they kept him around to keep an eye on him. Chad said so the first time they went to the shrine
I think the problem with amber is that they should have just gone with the original script and made amber and Tara girlfriends. That would have been much more interesting to explore in terms of ambers motive, instead of just making her be the person who likes killing.
@@montylaser7379 well when you think about it they kind of were in a way because they were die hard fans of the original stab because of billy and Stu even tho they don’t mention the names of them you can still kinda see it
Yeah Jill basically almost succeeded at the end. She let her mancandy do all the work then frame and set everything up. Thank God Gale figured it out and looked back at Dewey like Damn It Dewey you got it wrong.
Another reason he was able to manipulate her so easily when it came to Derek was he had already planted a seed of doubt in her mind about Derek. In the precinct. Mickey was hella chaotic and seemed way too excited to be in the middle of it all, but he was smart. (For the most part-it was obvious that Mrs. Loomis had zero interest in him potentially throwing her under the bus.)
What really saved Roman for me was Scott Foleys amazing performance at the end when Sidney and Roman are both screaming at each other. It felt like a real sibling rivalry
@@RJMCA Did u not listen to that I said? The movie was shot with the idea of 2 killers during filming, they scrapped the idea and decided to make Roman the sole killer. How he acted alone as been mentioned more than once, and bts footage also supports what I'm saying
For me the most shocking reveal was Jill. Because I thought Jill was the one to carry the franchise forward and will be the main lead in the future movies,so i never suspected her to be the killer
@@sophieatkins1952she was just the mastermind, she didnt even do any of the killing. Charlie was the bloodthirsty killer trying to seek approval from her. She was indeed very smart but lacked the scary eerie vibe of the reveals. “Like dang thats who did all the killing!?” Jill didnt even lift a finger tbh.
For those who don’t know who Danny Johnson is, when the game Dead By Daylight introduced Ghostface as a killer, they got the rights from the company who makes the mask, not Ghostface from the films. Because of that they had to create their own version of Ghostface which is how Danny came to be.
I actually like Danny Johnson’s backstory and character. He’s like if Peter Parker was a serial killer and taking photos and reporting on his crimes. It’s kinda cool
I wish they had kept Danny around until at least the middle of the movie. Create some chaos and confusion. Maybe have Sam or Tara kill him, thinking it’s all over, only to later find out that they were wrong.
Quinn had a good build up between her and sam and her being the most emotional one and it seem like she looked up to richie and was closely one to him it would be understandable that her and sam face off since sam is the one who killed him!
The idea of having a slutty character like Ghostface is interesting, but Quinn is a forgettable character. His motivation is basically the same as Wayne's, making his character shallow and without depth.
@@itswariotime7543Well quinn never had any layering at all. In the movie just like amber didn't have no layering. To be honest it would be interesting if quinn was the second favorite of wayne since he depend on her more and have a closer relationship with her then ethan. The original motive they could went with is thinking richie was the victim and was killed and sam was the murder a misunderstanding motive would made them interesting.
The fake off screen death, ghostface being behind her for solid 5 mins while in bed and she didn’t notice, and the fact that GF could likely only get in the apt and hide if let in - it was soooo obvi 😫
One thing in Scream VI that really bothered me was the ending when Mindy runs up saying Ethan and Wayne were the killers like kinda woulda been nice if we saw how she figured it out.
@@melissam597 Probably, but then the first trailer would have spoiled it. I 100% think Gale and Chad should have died. Chad couldn't have survived those stabs and it was pretty blatant that they shot Gale's scene with the intention of killing her.
@@coolnerdlll6053 have to admit I have a soft spot for Chad lol, though I do agree they wasted a badass scene by having him live. They should have left it for the next movie (I don't see either twin surviving the franchise). Fully agree about Gale. It was the perfect time to kill her off. In the previous movie they killed 2 returning characters, it looked weak that they couldn't even kill 1 off for S6...
The directors regret killing Dewey so they didn't want to kill anyone of the main characters in 6. In reality, people have survived multiple gunshot and stab wounds, but it's just a movie so why let it bother you so much?
For me it's Stu and it has a lot to do with Matthew Lilliards performance. It's just head and shoulders above the rest. He's the most quotable for me, and not just because of his dialogue but how he says things. I still get a chuckle out of " My mom & dad are gonna be so mad at me." & " You f***ing hit me with the phone, D***!" Nearly everything he says in that third act is gold.
One thing I want to point out about Mickey which usually goes unnoticed (in regards to his being 'duped' by Nancy Loomis) is that as soon as Nancy said "there isn't going to be a trial" and aimed to shoot him, Mickey had an instant look of recognition on his face. He knew immediately what was about to happen and raised his gun to shoot her first. Unfortunately since Nancy already had her gun pointed, she was faster on the draw than he was.
I really like this ranking. I’m biased because it reflects my list in my head. Mickey is the most brutal, and unhinged. His motive is fun and the fact Mrs. Loomis found him on a serial killer message board means his body count is probably a lot high than we think before the movie
I don't like it, since first minutes I didnt like the ranking Lol. How can he put Bailey at the freaking last place, what's with Roman?? Roman had, til his reveal, about 5 min screen time the whole movie like wtf. I get that he was the only ghostface which worked alone. But c'mon
For me it's entirely different based on how each one is as a character (i.e. how entertaining the performance and writing are) and a villain (i.e. how intimidating they are). For instance, Stu is a great character, but I'm not scared of him like I am of Billy. As characters: 1. Stu 2. Billy 3. Jill 4. Richie 5. Mickey 6. Amber 7. Mrs. Loomis 8. Bailey 9. Charlie 10. Ethan 11. Roman 12. Quinn As villains: 1. Billy 2. Jill 3. Richie 4. Mickey 5. Bailey 6. Mrs. Loomis 7. Amber 8. Stu 9. Ethan 10. Quinn 11. Roman 12. Charlie
We all got different opinions and I like your opinion and here’s mine As villains: 1.Jill 2.Amber 3.Billy 4.Roman 5.Charlie 6.Nancy 7.Bailey 8.Mickey 9.Quinn 10.Stu 11.Richie 12.Ethan As characters: 1.Stu 2.Mickey 3.Billy 4.Jill 5.Roman 6.Amber 7.Quinn 8.Charlie 9.Richie 10.Nancy 11.Bailey 12.Ethan
1. Billy, the most well rounded of them all and a great performance by skeet also thorough at both planning and killing. 2. Stu, Matthew Lillard’s performance is probably the best out of any of them and he did the character Justice more than any other Ghostface, it felt like the 3rd act unleashed a different character we didn’t see at all in the early parts of the film . Classic kills and great dynamic with Billy. 3. Mickey, kind of a mix of Billy and Stu but we didn’t get much time with his character. 4Jill, most unique motive and surprising reveal in the series but she doesn’t really do any dirty work. 5. Mrs. Loomis, Hidden in plain site done perfectly. But she doesn’t do anything in comparison to Mickey 6. Roman 7. Richie 8. Charlie 9. Quinn 10. Amber 11. Detective Bailey 12. Ethan
Are yall sane? why does everyone think Jill did not do any dirty work? Jill literally has 7 kills and Charlie has 3 (was 4 but Kirby lived). Jill is easily top 1 in the franchise cause she was the only one to outsmart everyone, additionally, she invented act 4... It is a crime to compare her to Mrs. Loomis or Stu 💀💀💀
Glad to see someone that ranked Mrs. Loomis and Mickey in the top contenders. Mrs Loomis and Mickey are my all time favorite ghostfaces. Mrs Loomis brought that Mrs Voorhees psycho vibe with her. The reveal was a surprise as well. Mickey was really a twisted sadistic Ghostface, not to mention that he was already a serial killer before he joined Mrs. Loomis.
Good video but gotta say again Greg isn't a killer, but Jason definitely is. Just because it's one person Doesn't mean he's not a killer..he had plans to kill more. He made a ghostface call. He wore the ghostface mask. Had a ghostface kill. He was a ghostface.
I don't count him since he only killed 1 person and died shortly after*. Remember Kirby says she was hunting GF killers so if we're counting everyone who dons the mask and kills it's probably going to be in the 100/0s. *yes I know Nancy, Jill and Richie didn't have many kills of their own BUT they were responsible for many more
That top 4 is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 They we’re the scariest killers of all. Billy & Micky we’re the most manipulative & the most brutal killers Stew was willing to kill just off of insanity & peer pressure And Nancy Loomis showed just how horrifically far that a mother’s wrath can go. She killed Randy & nearly killed Duey in the most savage way. A woman with a grudge+A KNIFE 🔪 =DISASTER 🤣🤣🤣
I heavily agree with you on Amber as a killer, I think she’s very overrated in the scream fandom. I mean her motive is nonexistent, when I first saw Scream 2022 I genuinely thought her motive was she wanted to be Tara’s sister that she never had because of Sam leaving and that’s why she’s so aggressive with Sam throughout the movie
I think if that were the reason it would be criticized a lot. People don't understand that Amber is a psychopath, she was being protective of Tara to have her best friend's trust, if she really wanted to be Tara's sister, why would she try to kill her?
Roman will always be my favorite ghostface. Only one who did it alone and highest body count. I agree Roman with you zack that Roman was the scariest opponent for sidney, never been so scared for sidney. Oh also nice to see someone rank mickey so high i dont think ive ever seen someone rank mickey #1 hes underrated af
@@doobofbattle9472 your in the minority nowadays I was just on a big scream group with over 50k members and out of the 12 ghostfaces roman was voted as best ghostface even over billy, roman had 9k+ plus votes. All in like 3 days. Cool to see.
@@doobofbattle9472 Wow normally its the opposite people dislike scream 3 but love its killer roman, they call him the best ghostface in the worst sequel.
Definitely think you should've included Jason because he was the opening Ghostface killer of Scream VI. Plus, that's a great opportunity in the future for a Horror Movie Trivia: Ghostface: "How many killers were in Stab 11 (or whatever it would be)?" Vicitim: "It was three killers!" Ghostface: "Sorry, that's the wrong answer." Vicitim: "No it's not, I've seen that movie 20 damn times." Ghostface: "Then you should know that there were FOUR killers. Three that were working together and one that doesn't make it past the opening scene."
@@dylanshorrorchannel1378 That opening bit with Samara Weaving was one of the most original of the series. Definitely Ghostface-caliber in terms of dialogue and unique killing scene. Technically everyone since Billy & Stu is a Ghostface wannabe, plus Mickey & Robby were also killed by other Ghostface killers. So considering Jason was able to get inside of her head, get her alone and stab her while wearing a Ghostface mask, he succeeded in his plan, therefore he is a Ghostface killer.
@@g_wade_13 Yeah your completely wrong Mickey and Charlie not Robbie we’re betrayed by their teammates after a whole film of being a successful Ghostface completely different. This 5”6 dweeb who doesn’t resemble a ghostface killer at all literally had 1 kill and then got absolutely humiliated and straight up slaughtered by Bailey at the very opening of the film. Bailey and his kids were the real ghostfaces also Roman was the one who started everything so he’s definitely not a ghostface wannabe. Jason was such a joke and non ghostface he didn’t even last past the intro so therefore not a real ghostface!
@@dylanshorrorchannel1378 My mistake, Charlie, not Robbie (there’s a reason why he’s the least remembered). But what does his height have anything to do with it?? Jill was 5’2”, Charlie was 5’6”, Amber was 5’3”. And yes, Roman may have started it all with his stalking and videotaping, but he wasn’t the first Ghostface. That honor goes to Billy & Stu. And Jason absolutely resembles a real Ghostface because he stole the opening scene by convincing a woman to walk down a dark alley by herself in NYC, succeeding in killing said woman, then walked right pass one of the main characters whom he was already associated with, and then yes, he was humiliated and slaughtered… just like every other Ghostface has been. The fact that he didn’t last beyond the opening title just means that he’d be on the bottom of the list. It would be like Billy & Stu killing Charlie or Richie. He may have been nowhere near the best Ghostface, but he was still Ghostface for all of about 10-15 minutes.
@@dylanshorrorchannel1378ok humiliated I don’t think so who else besides Ghostface saw him getting murdered and you act like the three Ghostfaces in this movie didn’t get slaughtered
Idk why, because it seems obvious once you said it, but it never occurred that to me that Mickey might have been a serial killer before he even met Mrs Loomis. I just assumed that when she found him he was just expressing his desire to kill. The idea that this wasn’t his first rodeo in the killing department makes him even more interesting, and I’m dying to know more about his backstory now
For us "picky" people.... Technically, Billy and Stu are the only actual serial killers of all of the ghost faces. The rest would be considered "spree killers". Billy and Stu killed Maureen and had a 1 year "cooling off period". That's what classifies them as actual serial killers. Not sure about Mickey, since we don't know if he's murdered before the murders at Windsor.
An underrated killer, the author says that Amber has no motive and this is her main problem and that’s why she is so low, but at the same time he put Stu higher, even though Stu is pure evil, you can see some shock on Stu’s face when Billy tells Sydney why he started killing, this suggests that most likely Stu thought that they were doing it purely for fun, Stu had absolutely no motive
It may not be a popular opinion, but I think there were small hidden gems when it comes to Ethan being one of the killers. If you listen during the reveal Ethan and his dad had a hand in the murder of Ethan's and Quinn's mother. Perhaps for not going along with the plan to go after Sam and Tara, but I think some of the things that would of helped show how unhinged and desperate for approval Ethan was were left on the cutting room floor, but his nature of being a killer before the movie opens is interesting and hasn't been seen since Mickey who also killed people before becoming a Ghostface killer.
There's a reason Scream 2 has always been my favourite in the franchise 🙏 Great Killers, motives, manipulation, suspense! My only complaint is that we dont quite get enough Mickey in the movie. Personally I would have loved to have seen him in the Randy death scene pretending to help find the killer kn the phone with the others but really he's signalling Mrs Loomis to get ready to kill Randy
Surprised Danny Johnson got mentioned. A bit on him, he is one of the killers in the game Dead By Daylight. He is not from the Scream franchise, he is his own character since the rights to the Mask were obtained from FunWorld. Danny is incredibly different from any other Ghostface as his method of killing is way different. He is very smart about everything and takes his times to kill someone. He stalks his victims for even months on end, just so he can strike at the right time. He is more smart and careful, while also still being just as violent as any other Ghostface, if not more than everyone that has dawn the mask. A killer like him in the Scream franchise would be so cool to see as he is very different to any other killer, and it would be a refresher as well
As an avid Dead By Daylight player, it's cool to see Danny get some recognition, though I totally understand why people dont loop him in. Really I think that it's really cool how he does a twist on the usual "making their own story" with how he's the journalist reporting on his own killings.
As much as I want Danny to get more recognition, I don´t think it would be wise to enter Scream. Because either he would be able to kill pretty much everyone, or get nerfed for the purpose of the movie which wouldn´t make him justice. He is very different from any of the Ghostfaces.
Also I like that you give each character credit for the reasons why they’d be number 1 to someone else. Our lists are pretty different but your reasonings are very fair and make perfect sense. Although our opinions are different I agree with you fully.
I would honestly put Roman into first. He not only effectively killed all on his own and had one of the highest kill counts, he also kicked off every other killer in the list. Especially starting with Billy and Stu. Without convincing those two to do the murders, there wouldn't be other killers trying to uphold the movies that spun from Sydney and co. trauma
I think Scream 6 was a ton of fun and Scream 5 was a pretty solid restart of the franchise but the one down side I've seen so far is that the writers seem to be having a difficult time creating compelling motives for the killers. Scream 2 worked so well for me because Billy's mom is convincing in the idea that she wants pure revenge for losing her son. In Scream 6 it kinda felt like a leap to have this stern, disciplined police detective flip into a deranged serial killer just because his son was a nut. I haven't seen anyone else bring this up specifically but it feels borderline fantastical to tell us that an entire family (2 sons, daughter, and dad) are all down to be serial killers.
My first reason behind why Scream 6 lost me is because of a whole family of serial killers. Felt like Texas Chainsaw instead of Scream. Plus we've already done the whole "familial revenge" plot in 2. It started to feel like this new series is having a pattern of trying to copy and "one up" the originals like with 5 doing the betraying boyfriend from the first. What I loved about 2-4 is they generally went in different directions of motives and roles each time.
One problem I've noticed is that when many Ghostfaces become overrated, they start to become underrated, there are people who don't understand that just because a ghostface is overrated, doesn't mean he's bad. I notice this with Amber for example, when Scream 5 was released she was very overrated, but then she started to become very underrated, and they started treating her like trash, forgetting everything she did
I feel that roman got Sydney’s number probably from dewey leaving his phone around for roman to quickly take it and have it long enough to get her number. They even sorta elude to it with the whole dewey memory thing
Roman is my favorite ❤, he was ambitious and resourceful, I also think he had the best lines when it comes to taunting his victims And let's not forget that fight scene with Sydney in act 3 , it makes you feel that Sydney may not make it at the end
Love how you always go to bat for Mickey! He's my favorite Ghostface as well, but I didn't use to have the guts to say it, bc if you gave any answer other than Billy, Stu, or Jill, you used to be kind of crucified in the fandom 😅
I go between him and Stu. Usually I place the latter as 1 because I kinda feel Tim was shafted (lack of pre-reveal screentime, then betrayed by the mastermind almost immediately). IMO they should have made him the solo killer of the series and had Nancy work with Roman. They probably would have hit it off due to their shared loathing of the Prescott women lol.
It's always been funny to me that the fandom at large thinks Jill is this amazing character when her entire motivation is basically a RIP off of Roman's. There's little nuances that distinguish them somewhat, but overall it's basically the same: envy of Sidney. Except it actually kinda makes sense in Roman's case.
Pretty fair ranking, I think mine is somewhere along these lines: 1. Jill Roberts 2. Billy Loomis 3. Mickey Altieri 4. Nancy Loomis 5. Roman Bridger 6. Stu Macher 7. Charlie Walker 8. Richie Kirsch 9. Amber Freeman 10. Wayne Bailey 11. Ethan Landry 12. Quinn Bailey 13. Jason/Greg
eh i wouldn’t say that. 4 had jill which was the best ghost face imo, 5 was okay, i liked Amber yet Richie was definitely the worst ghostface, and in 6 they weren’t great but i think it’s just that since there was three of them it was hard to give a lot of character to each one. I think Quinn could’ve been a pretty could killer if she hadn’t faked her death so soon, and if she had more screen time in act 3, because she was a pretty fun character. I have to say the ghostfaces in costume were my favorite by far with tactic and brutality. The bodega massacre, anika’s chase/death scene and gales attack were very entertaining and brought very unique ways of killing/attacking.
@@mason610i agree with you. I get it they wanna make fake out death bc the main characters having a big eye out on their suspects but there's other creative ways that the 2 other killers shouldn't be seen though. Like maybe have cour four being in public and have quinn chase them and attack them. Kill 1 or 2 people while in the way. Then fake her death it would been much better. I rather prefer her being the final scare I know the directors wanna give male characters final scare since jill and amber had final scares but it makes Quinn the most scene since she was closer to richie. I for one shouldn't make 3 killers bc it take each other screen time. 2 is enough to develop them and get to know them and have good layering and pasting.
Maybe to a point but there's also a massive factor in nostalgia bias. Every creative work that goes on long enough will have it. It isn't that long ago, we're just a few years removed, from people bashing and downplaying anything good in Scre4m. Quality does vary, as do personal tastes, but pretty much every Scream movie is still a good movie. I honestly think that in time people will find more appreciation for the high points of the newer killers too. And like 3's theme of SA in Hollywood and 4's focus on influencer culture were both things that were present but got even more focus later, 5's dangers of being terminally online and 6's ACAB are likely to age similarly
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Hey Zack! I've been a big fan of your channel for a while, and I always look forward to the great Scream content. I completely respect your opinion as everyone should, and I understand we all like what we like for different reasons. With that being said, I have to admit I was pretty surprised with this ranking since you and I usually seem to be on the same page with things. It's all good, though. I hope you don't mind me sharing a few of my own thoughts for the sake of conversation. This is in no way an attempt to change your mind or influence your ranking. I've had a TH-cam channel for 13 years so I know how toxic people can be. That is not my intention at all. Again, I truly do respect your opinion, but thought a respectful discussion between Scream fans would be cool with you. First, Jason. While I definitely understand ranking him dead last, in fact, he's last in my ranking, I was surprised to hear you don't count him as a full-fledged Scream killer. I almost feel like this is a disservice to Scream VI. They finally gave us a Ghostface reveal early in the film so we could see how that might play out. Not only that, we witness Jason make a phone call, wear the costume, deliver the opening kill, interact with Tara as we learn his motive, and then get killed himself. There is another killer on this list that literally does not kill anyone dressed as Ghostface. I can understand not including Greg, though. I also get not including the TV series killers. I've done rankings with and without them. However, Jason is undoubtedly a full-fledged Ghostface in my opinion, last or not. Ranking Wayne last might be the most shocking thing of all. Even if the Scream VI killers aren't your favorites (which is clearly the case), I'm not sure I understand why Wayne would be lower than Quinn and Ethan. He was the mastermind, did most of the killing including the badass Bodega kills, set everything up such as the fake names and even a replacement body for Quinn, and not only acquired the items for Richie's collection, but built the actual shrine which is one of the coolest things in the entire franchise. Not to mention, he was sure to place that blame for that on Jason and Greg. Ethan is the reddest of all red herrings who turns out to not be a red herring at all. I also like what you said about him killing to gain acceptance. Love that. I understand why Ethan would be this low, though... just not above his father. I don't think he finished Mindy off because that just wasn't the plan. He wasn't in costume and was known to be with her. Had she died, of course he would look guilty. Bringing her to the hospital would allow him to potentially get away with it had he made it out of the climax alive. Amber is a favorite for many. I didn't board the hype train on her until recently, but every time I watch Scream 5, I appreciate her more as a character and killer. She is the female Mickey, or more fittingly, Stu. She's a psycho with a tie to the mastermind (in this case Richie), and there is something appealing about her contention for Sam not having to do with her treatment of Tara, but that she was ultimately sleeping with her boyfriend. Clever touch. I agree about Mikey Madison's energy and spunk. Love it. Not sure what you mean about Richie having a better track record with efficiency. I mean, she attacked more people than he did and had a higher kill count than him (or at least equal) including legacy character Dewey. If Nancy gets extra credit for killing Randy in only his second appearance, Amber deserves maybe even more credit for finally being the one to finish off Dewey. I obviously have her ranked higher, although she was much lower after my first watch of Scream 5. Now she's pretty high for me. Charlie has the second highest kill count behind Roman. Sure, he wasn't the mastermind, but neither was Mickey who also did most of the work. I know Charlie is usually a bottom tier killer for many, but I find him to be one of the most underrated in the franchise. Quinn is honestly my second to last. I just don't find the appeal. She has one kill, which while somewhat impressive, is of the character who has the least amount of screentime. Her attack on Gale fails. Her attack on Mindy fails. Her attack on Chad fails. Her attacks during the climax fail. At the very least, she should be below Amber who was punished for lack of efficiency, yet Quinn was far less efficient. I have Richie somewhere in the middle of my ranking as well. He's a fun character, but a pathetic Ghostface like you said. That's also the point and part of his charm. I think what we learn about him in Scream VI propels him a bit for me. In Scream 5 though, Amber is by far more menacing both as Ghostface and after the reveal. Roman is my favorite Ghostface and arguably the objective best. He did it all alone (if you don't take the Angelina plan into consideration), has the highest kill count, and in my opinion, had the best chance to get away with it since no one alive would have known his motive. If not for Sidney's bullet proof vest, Roman wins. He was also the one who started it all. Yes, Billy and Stu were the original Ghostfaces, but without Roman's "direction," none of it would have happened. I know he's not everyone's favorite because many rank Scream 3 last, but I feel he at least deserves to be in the top 3 for kill count, intelligence, formidability, success rate, motive, etc. I could go on and on about why he's my favorite. It sounded like most of your issues with him are actually with the movie's script and not him as a killer. You practically said it yourself. Poor Roman. lol. While Charlie is probably the most underrated Ghostface, Jill is easily the most overrated for me. First of all, according to you (and I agree) she literally doesn't kill anyone as Ghostface. I disagree that she's the smartest. Again, I credit Roman with that. I'd even say Nancy and Billy were smarter. Jill unnecessarily gave herself away. Her lack of intelligence did her in. Sure, she kept her hands clean for the most part, but what did it matter if she was going to make such an amateurish mistake? The shock of her reveal is way more impressive than her as an actual Ghostface. Jason was more of a Ghostface than Jill. I think people get distracted by the scene of her beating herself up. It's awesome, but it doesn't make her a good killer at all. She was way too sloppy and bland as a character like you said. Stu for me is maybe the most subjective. He's just a great character and in my personal top 3. I do think it's Lillard's performance that raises him for me. As a killer, he's slightly above average, but hey, what can I say, I do love Stu. I agree he's smarter than he appears, and without him, Billy couldn't have done as much. Nancy is easily the most shocking reveal in the franchise. No one could have seen that coming, and I'll always remember watching that reveal in the theater on opening day... BUT she only killed one person. If Amber doesn't get bonus points for killing Dewey, Nancy shouldn't for killing Randy. It was one kill and a sloppy one at that. What if the guys playing music hadn't walked by at that exact moment? She could have been caught. I get the appreciation of her reveal, but as a killer, top 3 is very high. Of course, that's just my opinion. Billy at #2... sure. It makes sense. I do find him a bit overrated, mainly because of what you said about Stu. Without Stu, Billy doesn't accomplish much. Just because he was the first doesn't mean he's one of the best, but I do get it. He's iconic so I completely understand that placing. Mickey being a serial killer is a really interesting concept. He's like the Beth of the TV series in a way. Ironically, I do prefer her. Mickey's intelligence goes out the window with how he is duped by Nancy. He just felt like a pawn to me, even more than Charlie. At least Charlie was, in his mind, killing for his girlfriend and also killing people he genuinely seemed to like (like you said about Mickey). He's more mid-tier for me when it comes to Ghostfaces, and unfortunately, I think he might be one of the most forgettable for casual viewers. I actually think his motive would've been better had it happened later in the franchise. His reveal is pretty lackluster in my opinion, possibly because he wasn't originally supposed to be a killer. Well, I'll conclude by repeating, I absolutely respect your opinions, and hope you can respect mine. Please feel free to respond. I can talk about this stuff for days. Thanks for all you do on this channel, and I look forward to your next video!
1 Stu - completely Matthew's performance, every line delivery is just stuck in my brain 2 Billy - The real OG, like you said he still has the most impact on the overall franchise out of any killer 3 Mrs Loomis - The best hidden in plain sight killer. not to mention those crazy eyes 4 Richie - ya I know but I love his performance, especially when he's revealed to be the pathetic dweeb he is, it helps to not glorify these psychos when they just completely crumble 5 Mickey - The lack of screentime does keep him from getting any higher for me, he could've easily been another Stu in my book 6 Jill - Her motivation was way ahead of its time and obviously the self mutilation sequence is amazing 7 Amber - I like her lack of motivation tbh, it's kinda the same with Stu because he never really gave a motivation either, but before the reveal she wasn't really that interesting 8 Roman - Purely for the fact that I respect him going solo and being such an effective killer, the main problems are really more of a script issue and not the character 9 Charlie - KIrby actually started to like him, imagine fumbling this bad 10 Wayne - I don't mind the camp of the performance tbh, it at least makes him more memorable for me 11 Ethan - I have already forgotten this guy 12 Quinn - I have also forgotten her but at least Ethan got a better death
My ranking is Billy, Mickey, Stu, Roman, Mrs. Loomis, Jill, Quinn, Charlie, Richie, Bailey, Amber, and Ethan. Billy, Mickey, and Roman are the smartest to me. And the scene in the precinct where Mickey is able to plant that seed of doubt in Sidney’s mind really screwed her up for the rest of the movie. Roman was ultimately the mastermind, Billy carried out his plan so well, and Stu was pure chaos that was fun to watch.
Stu is probably the craziest of them all. He legit had no reason for killing anyone except for the thrill of it. The fact he was the one to set up moat of Billy's targets without he killing as many, shows just how insane he really was.
You know, the statement Nancy makes in 2 about Mickey, saying he's "a young serial killer on the way up" didn't register that maybe he'd been killing people before the events of 2... That really broadens him a lot more. Sydney defs did the world a favor with that one. 😂
Roman is my favorite Ghostface! Because of his well-written dialogue in the end scene, Scott Foley's acting, and the fact that he has been the only solo killer, really make him a credible mastermind, IMO. Thank you for bringing up the fight scene between him and Sidney at the end. For most of the other Ghostfaces, you'll notice that once the mask comes off, they become less physically formidable, slower, etc. But not Roman. And even though this bit is Roger Jackson and not Scott Foley, Roman's Ghostface has my favorite lines of dialogue/monologue "She had a new life and a new name, Maureen PRESCOTT! YOU were the only child she claimed, Sidney! She shut me out in the cold forEVER, her OWN SONNNNNN...." the way Jackson says that is just perfection. It is a fair criticism that there's really nothing throughout the movie, even when watched on repeat viewings, to hint at Roman being Ghostface, but on the other hand, his reveal was at least surprising, unlike the reveals in Scream 5 and 6. I think the film does a pretty good job of making you think it is the detective without being too obviously misleading. Mrs. Loomis is my #2. I think she was the most surprising reveal, and she and Roman had the best motives.
I totally agree that! Roman was my favorite too, until Richie wasn't (now Roman is my #2). And in my ranking also has Mrs. Loomis after Roman, and finally someone else besides me thinks that she was the most surprising ghostface!😆😆 So they are really the best ones😅
@@matehorvath1203 I'm personally not a big fan of Richie. I thought his identity as one of the killers was pretty obvious. But I suppose he was okay. Anything after 3 gets kind of a "meh" from me.
I’m very shock you put Roman that low. He is honestly the best killer in the whole series. He did everything alone, he was the most clever, had the best relatable and understanding motive for being a killer and is responsible for the entire series to begging with
Amber was so poorly written that her actress saved her through acting. Honestly if she wasnt hilarious during her final fight at the kitchen she would have been the worst one for me
Controversial, but I like your top pick. Mickey is underrated and I think the effect he had on Sidney is more than even Billy and Stu. He killed her best friend and boyfriend and would have killed her if Mrs. Loomis hadn't double-crossed him so she could get the satisfaction of the kill herself. I also think the scene in the play, hiding among the cloaked and masked figures, is very underrated and is especially interesting to analyze on rewatch because you initially think, "Oh Sidney's cracking" but you clearly see him run offstage the second after he scares her. Prime psychological torture and he didn't even have a grudge against her. He was just an already active serial killer who wanted college tuition money and fame.
I’ve seen a lot of these but never ranked my own so here it goes lol 12-Amber Freeman 11-Nancy Loomis 10-Wayne Kirsch 9-Quinn Kirsch 8-Jill Roberts 7-Ethan Kirsch 6-Richie Kirsch 5-Charlie Walker 4-Mickey Alteri 3-Roman Bridger 2-Stu Macher 1-Billy Loomis
I honestly like Richie a lot. I think he was an obvious killer but I think he did the best "supportive" scenes out of the killers outside of Mickey probably.
Charlie is still so underrated IMO. The scene where we think he kills Kirby tells so much about his character. The pay off to the not so subtle crush they hinted at in the first scene with him and Kirby. The fact that he has these deep feelings for Kirby, while still being this deeply disturbed individual. Kirby and Jill represent the duality of Charlie's internal struggle. On the one side, he's attracted to this normal, strong individual in Kirby that represents his desire to be normal and to fit in. On the other side, he falls for Jill's manipulation as she embraces him the way Kirby doesn't. So in the almost kill scene, you see that pain come out because he all but admits that if Kirby had shown even the slightest interest in Charlie sooner, he may have gone down a different path. You see the pain in his face when he stabs her. It's not only the pain of the rejection he's felt from her for years, but the pain he has in what he's become because he's asking why couldn't this affection have come sooner, and maybe I wouldn't be who I am today. Then when Jill betrays him, it's such a tragic karmatic retribution. Also, Charlie kills everyone lol.
Zack: The problem with Amber is she’s a killer for the sake of being a killer Also Zack: ranks Mickey as #1 who’s literally a killer for the sake of being a killer
You boys know this is just his opinion, right? Simplifying a person's thoughts on a film series to two summaries sentences that conflict is so childish and petty.
I wasn’t sure if Stu would be third or fourth for me, but I agree 100%. Without Matthew Lillard, the character wouldn’t be nearly as memorable. There’s so many one-liners that he sells in a way that other actors couldn’t. “My mom and dad are gonna be so maaad at me!” cracks me up. Would have put Billy over Mickey (maybe that’s me thinking of the quality of Scream 1 > 2) , but I’m good with your list overall.
Honestly did not expect these rankings! (The middle ones were the only couple I guessed, like Roman.) I appreciate you explaining your thoughts behind them.
Solid Ghostface ranking! I think the only differences I would have are Roman would be higher than Jill for me, because I just didn't like her motive as much as Roman's. And definitely Stu would be higher than Mickey for me only because of the first movie killer bias. Great stuff though! I enjoy all of your content!
I always go back and forth between Billy and Mickey as my number. Mickey definitely is the scariest because of the whole him being a hired killer thing. Never thought about how many people he might have killed before Nancy found him. That might permanently bump him above Billy for me. Not to mention I love his motive of wanting to be caught and turn his trial into a spectacle. I tend to favor the more unique motives above the standard revenge ones that have been the basis for a good chunk of the killers from the franchise.
A few years ago, we did GhostFace for Halloween and we all picked our favorite killer to portray and I picked my favorite Mickey and no one knew why. Now I can show them
Great video as always! :) Here's my ranking. I gave each ghost face ratings from 1 to 10 based on 10 different categories and the avarage determined it's position in my general ranking! If there are any questions to some specific ratings feel free to ask, haha. 01// Billy Loomis 9.5/10 Reveal 9 Motive 10 Kills 8 Intelligence 10 Non ghostface appearence 10 Switch after killer reveal 10 Death 8 Acting Performance 10 Threat level/Scary 10 Effect on Sidney 10 02// Nancy Loomis 8.4/10 Reveal 10 Motive 10 Kills 4 Intelligence 10 Non ghostface appearence 8 Switch after killer reveal 9 Death 7 Acting Performance 10 Threat level/Scary 10 Effect on Sidney 6 03// Jill Roberts 8.2/10 Reveal 9 Motive 9 Kills 8 Intelligence 10 Non ghostface appearence 2 Switch after killer reveal 10 Death 9 Acting Performance 9 Threat level/Scary 9 Effect on Sidney 7 04// Amber Freeman 8/10 Reveal 10 Motive 10 Kills 6 Intelligence 8 Non ghostface appearence 3 Switch after killer reveal 10 Death 10 Acting Performance 10 Threat level/Scary 9 Effect on Sam/Tara 4 05// Mickey Altieri 7.9/10 Reveal 7 Motive 6 Kills 10 Intelligence 8 Non ghostface appearence 3 Switch after killer reveal 10 Death 5 Acting Performance 10 Threat level/Scary 10 Effect on Sidney 10 06// Stu Mucher 7.4/10 Reveal 9 Motive 4 Kills 8 Intelligence 2 Non ghostface appearence 10 Switch after killer reveal 10 Death 10 Acting Performance 10 Threat level/Scary 10 Effect on Sidney 1 07// Richie Kirsch 7/10 Reveal 6 Motive 10 Kills 6 Intelligence 3 Non ghostface appearence 9 Switch after killer reveal 6 Death 10 Acting Performance 9 Threat level/Scary 3 Effect on Sam/Tara 8 08// Quinn Bailey 5.7/10 Reveal 1 Motive 1 Kills 1 Intelligence 8 Non ghostface appearence 9 Switch after killer reveal 10 Death 6 Acting Performance 8 Threat level/Scary 10 Effect on Sam/Tara 3 09// Roman Bridger 5.3/10 Reveal 2 Motive 4 Kills 2 Intelligence 10 Non ghostface appearence 7 Switch after killer reveal 5 Death 9 Acting Performance 7 Threat level/Scary 3 Effect on Sidney 4 10// Wayne Bailey 3.3/10 Reveal 1 Motive 1 Kills 9 Intelligence 5 Non ghostface appearence 3 Switch after killer reveal 2 Death 8 Acting Performance 1 Threat level/Scary 2 Effect on Sam/Tara 1 11// Charlie Walker 3.2/10 Reveal 2 Motive 1 Kills 9 Intelligence 2 Non ghostface appearence 4 Switch after killer reveal 1 Death 6 Acting Performance 5 Threat level/Scary 1 Effect on Sidney 1 12// Ethan Landry 2.6/10 Reveal 1 Motive 1 Kills 1 Intelligence 2 Non ghostface appearence 2 Switch after killer reveal 4 Death 8 Acting Performance 5 Threat level/Scary 1 Effect on Sam/Tara 1 Seeing most of the female killers being towards the top of my list makes my wish for a sequel with only female killers so much bigger 🥲
In terms of being a threat, I would put Stu at 3 and Nancy Loomis at 12 and that cop guy at 4. That cop guy stabbed a guy surrounded by witnesses in the middle of a store. He's actually kinda intimidating and I think its mostly thanks to the stuntman absolutely carrying Ghostface in Scream 6. An actually menacing killer.
my ghost face rankings: 12th: wayne 11th: quinn 10th: charlie 9th: ethan 8th: mrs loomis 7th: richie 6th: billy 5th: amber 4th: stu 3rd: mickey 2nd: jill 1st: roman
It's one of those slasher movie things where they could kill you quickly (like in your sleep, as you said) but they seem more inclined to torment you first and kill people around you to make you suffer before finally trying to kill you directly. And they all seem to get off on having their big climactic reveal, rubbing it in your face they've been the one doing this to you all along. Also, it seemed like part of their goal was to finish Richie's movie to honor him.
Yes Zack ranking mickey as 1# because he is the G.O.A.T. extremely creepy,effective but also very charismatic,entertaining,and humorous perfect blend for a cloak and dagger serial killer
Mickey Altieri is my favorite he has the best combat experience out of all the GhostFace, and he was a serial killer before becoming a GhostFace. This makes him so dark, like he enjoys killing people and does it for a living, too. This would make Mickey the ultimate advantage for having more kills under his belt before the Windsor College Murders.
Richie has some of the best non ghost face moments in the franchise imo. He's top 3 characters out of the killers imo. His motive is good. I actually like that he ends up being pathetic as a killer too.
Is your motive good? What? Is not liking a silly little movie a good reason to start a killing spree? If he killed anyone. All of the above reasons were better: home destroyed by maternal abandonment, child's death, gaining infamy as a murderer, maternal rejection, neglectful mother, and need for attention. Even Stu and Charlie's motives are better and are more in line with real life. Other slash movies like Urban Legend and Prom Night had better motives.
he had the worst motive, amber too. and he has to be the worst killer without a debate, his relationship with amber was weird and pervy. also his character was weak and annoying i don’t know why anybody likes him.
@@mason610 His character was fine before the reveal serving as silly, fearful comic relief. After the revelation his character is terrible, practically a crybaby. Amber just used this motivation to make a movie as an excuse to kill, notice that she looks excited when stabbing her victims and jumps up and down in act 3. Amber is one of the best Ghostfaces and Richie is the worst along with Quinn and Charlie.
Mickey was literally gone for half the movie. His backstory about being a serial killer is cool, but I just wanted more screen time. Also I do think Jill was the to kill Hoss and Perkins, there’s just no way Charlie would’ve had enough time to show up to Jill’s house and kill them, drive them down the street, then go back for Sidney and Kate. I think Jill snuck out, killed them, loaded them back into the car with Charlie’s help, and then drove the car down the street where she probably was picked up by kirby.
The logistics aren't as tight with Scream 4, but it's established that Kirby picked up Jill and they had already been at Kirby's house for a while before Charlie and Robbie arrived. And then later on Charlie was the one who was holding onto the cops gun, which he gives to Jill.
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I believe Wes Craven said that Mickey is the reason Sidney went into hiding in Scream 3. So he was definitely an effective villain
Mickey is the GOAT
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Mickey is the cr7 of scream while Billy is Messi of scream.
Bro roasted Sidney completely
@@rohina6945 "He's exactly the kind of boyfriend you'd love to take home to mom...IF YOU HAD A MOM."
holy fcking hell man lol
Would love to see a video where you rank each Ghostface in the movies. Not the killers underneath the mask, but Ghostface as a character, his brutality, Roger Jackson's performance, etc.
That would be a great video
5>6>1>4>2>3 for me. The Radio Silence movies might be divisive, but they know how to use Roger Jackson.
@@coolnerdlll6053 Absolutely agreed here, I personally love the Radio silence movies and the way Ghostface is portrayed is the biggest reason why.
@@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE I don't recall seeing that, may have been an older video but what I mean is purely how Ghostface looks, acts and kills.
Yeah
Ethan being the killer was pretty obvious, not going in but after like 45 minutes into the film the dude was hanging around way too long literally doing nothing 😂😂
Right. I actually called him before Quinn.
lmao
I didn’t even consider him lol
I mean to be fair, by that point the apartment killing happened and they kept him around to keep an eye on him. Chad said so the first time they went to the shrine
Ethan, the boring Micky.
I think the problem with amber is that they should have just gone with the original script and made amber and Tara girlfriends. That would have been much more interesting to explore in terms of ambers motive, instead of just making her be the person who likes killing.
i didn,t know tara was lesbian or bi
What else could have been ambers motive besides her having a crazy obsession with Stu Macher and the stab movies
They should just made richie and amber being billy fans and just want to get revenge on sidneu bc she killed their idiol. It would been better!
@@montylaser7379 well when you think about it they kind of were in a way because they were die hard fans of the original stab because of billy and Stu even tho they don’t mention the names of them you can still kinda see it
I think the problem with amber was she just sucked. Nothing more nothing less.
“Jill Roberts is the Eric Cartman of the franchise.”
I am in TEARS!!! 😂😂😂
Yeah Jill basically almost succeeded at the end. She let her mancandy do all the work then frame and set everything up. Thank God Gale figured it out and looked back at Dewey like Damn It Dewey you got it wrong.
I love Mickey as a Ghostface. The fact that he was able to convince Sydney that Derek was the other ghostface was really smart of him.
I love when Mickey close the ghost face vilified remote control and speak with his original voice in a ghost face outfit
Another reason he was able to manipulate her so easily when it came to Derek was he had already planted a seed of doubt in her mind about Derek. In the precinct. Mickey was hella chaotic and seemed way too excited to be in the middle of it all, but he was smart. (For the most part-it was obvious that Mrs. Loomis had zero interest in him potentially throwing her under the bus.)
Plus he seemed unhinged as fuck at the end
@@rc0057 absolutely! His psycho/killer instincts kicked in 😂
He just wasn’t in the movie enough
What really saved Roman for me was Scott Foleys amazing performance at the end when Sidney and Roman are both screaming at each other. It felt like a real sibling rivalry
Scream 3 get it?
They both are "screaming at each other" that's why the movie is called scream 3
Why don't you take some fucking responsibility!
I love how they both yelled "FUCK YOU!!" to each other, right before their epic slugfest
@@Joe_Parmesan i lmao when she told him to take some responsibility
Roman is criminally underrated and an absolute powerhouse of a ghost face. He’s almost supernatural with his agility, intelligence and strength.
@Schaffrillas Productions he was kind of dumb huh lol
Cuz Angelina was also ghost face and she dipped and got away with it
@@RJMCA Well initially that was the plan, but it's canon that it was all Roman unless that gets retconned.
@@D-tail she attacked sidney in the set of her house along with roman there was two ghost faces
@@RJMCA Did u not listen to that I said? The movie was shot with the idea of 2 killers during filming, they scrapped the idea and decided to make Roman the sole killer. How he acted alone as been mentioned more than once, and bts footage also supports what I'm saying
Stu will always be my #1! Matthew Lillard deserved an Oscar for his performance.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For me the most shocking reveal was Jill. Because I thought Jill was the one to carry the franchise forward and will be the main lead in the future movies,so i never suspected her to be the killer
Fr, she was so unexpected my jaw LITERALLY dropped when she removed the mask
@@sophieatkins1952she was just the mastermind, she didnt even do any of the killing. Charlie was the bloodthirsty killer trying to seek approval from her. She was indeed very smart but lacked the scary eerie vibe of the reveals. “Like dang thats who did all the killing!?” Jill didnt even lift a finger tbh.
@@Guapp1xJill do 7 or 6 kills
For those who don’t know who Danny Johnson is, when the game Dead By Daylight introduced Ghostface as a killer, they got the rights from the company who makes the mask, not Ghostface from the films. Because of that they had to create their own version of Ghostface which is how Danny came to be.
I like how he says "Nobody knows who Danny Johnson is" but clearly at least 55 of us do know.
Danny is a pretty fun one, too. The selfie Mori is inspired
I actually like Danny Johnson’s backstory and character. He’s like if Peter Parker was a serial killer and taking photos and reporting on his crimes. It’s kinda cool
I wish they had kept Danny around until at least the middle of the movie. Create some chaos and confusion. Maybe have Sam or Tara kill him, thinking it’s all over, only to later find out that they were wrong.
@@heathermarie3672 different Danny, not Danny whose Sam’s boyfriend, this is a video game character
I’m so glad Mickey, Nancy, and Roman get explained so well that it’s almost perfect
nah. Roman is 1. How tf is he in spot 6.
@@TrogleJoker yeah I agree however it was his personal opinion Roman for me is 1 he had everything he went head to head with Sid without stabbing her.
i think it’s important to keep in mind that richie is a creep, he was dating a high schooler (it was kept ambiguous in 5 but confirmed in 6)
With Amber, right? Yeah. Well, there's also Piper in the TV Show XD
Richie is CRAZY.
She was probably overage (Chad and Liv were the same age as her and nearly had sex), but you've got a point.
@@coolnerdlll6053 She was probably 17-18
Yeah focus on the creep thing and less on the serial killer aspect. 🤷♂️
Quinn had a good build up between her and sam and her being the most emotional one and it seem like she looked up to richie and was closely one to him it would be understandable that her and sam face off since sam is the one who killed him!
The idea of having a slutty character like Ghostface is interesting, but Quinn is a forgettable character. His motivation is basically the same as Wayne's, making his character shallow and without depth.
@@itswariotime7543Well quinn never had any layering at all. In the movie just like amber didn't have no layering. To be honest it would be interesting if quinn was the second favorite of wayne since he depend on her more and have a closer relationship with her then ethan. The original motive they could went with is thinking richie was the victim and was killed and sam was the murder a misunderstanding motive would made them interesting.
Am I the only one who saw Quinn as Ghostface coming? The fact that we didn't see her die (just her corpse) made me immediately suspicious of her.
I saw it coming too and reminded me of Roman’s fake death
You were not the only one
The fake off screen death, ghostface being behind her for solid 5 mins while in bed and she didn’t notice, and the fact that GF could likely only get in the apt and hide if let in - it was soooo obvi 😫
I had her as a killer before I saw it, but since I thought she was actually dead, she was the only killer I didn't predict.
I correctly guessed Ethan and Wayne. Never suspected Quinn.
One thing in Scream VI that really bothered me was the ending when Mindy runs up saying Ethan and Wayne were the killers like kinda woulda been nice if we saw how she figured it out.
Sorry but Mindy should've died on the subway
@@melissam597 Probably, but then the first trailer would have spoiled it. I 100% think Gale and Chad should have died. Chad couldn't have survived those stabs and it was pretty blatant that they shot Gale's scene with the intention of killing her.
@@coolnerdlll6053 have to admit I have a soft spot for Chad lol, though I do agree they wasted a badass scene by having him live. They should have left it for the next movie (I don't see either twin surviving the franchise).
Fully agree about Gale. It was the perfect time to kill her off. In the previous movie they killed 2 returning characters, it looked weak that they couldn't even kill 1 off for S6...
@@melissam597 why?
The directors regret killing Dewey so they didn't want to kill anyone of the main characters in 6.
In reality, people have survived multiple gunshot and stab wounds, but it's just a movie so why let it bother you so much?
For me it's Stu and it has a lot to do with Matthew Lilliards performance. It's just head and shoulders above the rest. He's the most quotable for me, and not just because of his dialogue but how he says things. I still get a chuckle out of " My mom & dad are gonna be so mad at me." & " You f***ing hit me with the phone, D***!"
Nearly everything he says in that third act is gold.
One thing I want to point out about Mickey which usually goes unnoticed (in regards to his being 'duped' by Nancy Loomis) is that as soon as Nancy said "there isn't going to be a trial" and aimed to shoot him, Mickey had an instant look of recognition on his face. He knew immediately what was about to happen and raised his gun to shoot her first. Unfortunately since Nancy already had her gun pointed, she was faster on the draw than he was.
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How does this go “unnoticed”? It’s very obvious that’s what happened
@@j2174 "unrealized" would probably be a better term. Every notices it but they don't realize what it means
@@ultrabigfella It was very obvious. Don’t know did it not notice or realise it
@@j2174 not everyone is you? Don't know why it's hard to communicate this very basic idea to you.
I really like this ranking. I’m biased because it reflects my list in my head.
Mickey is the most brutal, and unhinged. His motive is fun and the fact Mrs. Loomis found him on a serial killer message board means his body count is probably a lot high than we think before the movie
I don't like it, since first minutes I didnt like the ranking Lol. How can he put Bailey at the freaking last place, what's with Roman?? Roman had, til his reveal, about 5 min screen time the whole movie like wtf. I get that he was the only ghostface which worked alone. But c'mon
For me it's entirely different based on how each one is as a character (i.e. how entertaining the performance and writing are) and a villain (i.e. how intimidating they are). For instance, Stu is a great character, but I'm not scared of him like I am of Billy.
As characters:
1. Stu
2. Billy
3. Jill
4. Richie
5. Mickey
6. Amber
7. Mrs. Loomis
8. Bailey
9. Charlie
10. Ethan
11. Roman
12. Quinn
As villains:
1. Billy
2. Jill
3. Richie
4. Mickey
5. Bailey
6. Mrs. Loomis
7. Amber
8. Stu
9. Ethan
10. Quinn
11. Roman
12. Charlie
You rank roman so low as a villain 😢
We all got different opinions and I like your opinion and here’s mine
As villains:
1.Jill
2.Amber
3.Billy
4.Roman
5.Charlie
6.Nancy
7.Bailey
8.Mickey
9.Quinn
10.Stu
11.Richie
12.Ethan
As characters:
1.Stu
2.Mickey
3.Billy
4.Jill
5.Roman
6.Amber
7.Quinn
8.Charlie
9.Richie
10.Nancy
11.Bailey
12.Ethan
@@fans-ed1td What hurts Roman is the fact that he's barely a character until the reveal and him stopping his own pulse is completely ridiculous.
what was def better than her brother in villain and character and probably her dad too...
@@coolnerdlll6053 You could say the same about Jill. At least Roman had some great one liners.
1. Billy, the most well rounded of them all and a great performance by skeet also thorough at both planning and killing.
2. Stu, Matthew Lillard’s performance is probably the best out of any of them and he did the character Justice more than any other Ghostface, it felt like the 3rd act unleashed a different character we didn’t see at all in the early parts of the film . Classic kills and great dynamic with Billy.
3. Mickey, kind of a mix of Billy and Stu but we didn’t get much time with his character.
4Jill, most unique motive and surprising reveal in the series but she doesn’t really do any dirty work.
5. Mrs. Loomis, Hidden in plain site done perfectly. But she doesn’t do anything in comparison to Mickey
6. Roman
7. Richie
8. Charlie
9. Quinn
10. Amber
11. Detective Bailey
12. Ethan
wowwww
@Mathias Eggimann not for me. She wasn’t my 1st 2nd or 3rd guess at the time. Charlie was one that I guessed correctly.
this is a great ranking and I would have swapped Roman and Mrs. Loomis but overall great list
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Are yall sane? why does everyone think Jill did not do any dirty work? Jill literally has 7 kills and Charlie has 3 (was 4 but Kirby lived). Jill is easily top 1 in the franchise cause she was the only one to outsmart everyone, additionally, she invented act 4... It is a crime to compare her to Mrs. Loomis or Stu 💀💀💀
Glad to see someone that ranked Mrs. Loomis and Mickey in the top contenders. Mrs Loomis and Mickey are my all time favorite ghostfaces. Mrs Loomis brought that Mrs Voorhees psycho vibe with her. The reveal was a surprise as well. Mickey was really a twisted sadistic Ghostface, not to mention that he was already a serial killer before he joined Mrs. Loomis.
scream 6 was the easiest to guess who the killers were by far
The reveal of the killers in Scream 5 did not shock me at all bad movie!
Good video but gotta say again
Greg isn't a killer, but Jason definitely is.
Just because it's one person Doesn't mean he's not a killer..he had plans to kill more.
He made a ghostface call.
He wore the ghostface mask.
Had a ghostface kill.
He was a ghostface.
Okay, I'll include him. But he's going to be my 13th, unfortunately.
@@ZackCherry hahaha well that, we definitely agree!
@@ZackCherry I'll hold you to that. 😁
@@ZackCherry given he's Jason, 13th suits him just fine
I don't count him since he only killed 1 person and died shortly after*. Remember Kirby says she was hunting GF killers so if we're counting everyone who dons the mask and kills it's probably going to be in the 100/0s.
*yes I know Nancy, Jill and Richie didn't have many kills of their own BUT they were responsible for many more
That top 4 is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 They we’re the scariest killers of all.
Billy & Micky we’re the most manipulative & the most brutal killers
Stew was willing to kill just off of insanity & peer pressure
And Nancy Loomis showed just how horrifically far that a mother’s wrath can go. She killed Randy & nearly killed Duey in the most savage way. A woman with a grudge+A KNIFE 🔪 =DISASTER 🤣🤣🤣
I heavily agree with you on Amber as a killer, I think she’s very overrated in the scream fandom. I mean her motive is nonexistent, when I first saw Scream 2022 I genuinely thought her motive was she wanted to be Tara’s sister that she never had because of Sam leaving and that’s why she’s so aggressive with Sam throughout the movie
Yeah she's totally overrated
I think if that were the reason it would be criticized a lot. People don't understand that Amber is a psychopath, she was being protective of Tara to have her best friend's trust, if she really wanted to be Tara's sister, why would she try to kill her?
I think amber was more like a female stu
“…cus nobody knows who that is” 😭 and that was accurate cuz I was like who?
It's the version of Ghostface in the game Dead By Daylight
Roman will always be my favorite ghostface. Only one who did it alone and highest body count. I agree Roman with you zack that Roman was the scariest opponent for sidney, never been so scared for sidney. Oh also nice to see someone rank mickey so high i dont think ive ever seen someone rank mickey #1 hes underrated af
I just don't care about him when he's not ghostface and his reveal does nothing for me personally. Bottom 5 for me
@@doobofbattle9472 your in the minority nowadays I was just on a big scream group with over 50k members and out of the 12 ghostfaces roman was voted as best ghostface even over billy, roman had 9k+ plus votes. All in like 3 days. Cool to see.
@@atimetraveler4910 Love Scream 3, just don't love Roman :) he's still better than the newest 3 and Amber for me tho
@@doobofbattle9472 Wow normally its the opposite people dislike scream 3 but love its killer roman, they call him the best ghostface in the worst sequel.
@@atimetraveler4910i know i’m super later, but are you still in that scream groupchat?? if so how can i get added?
Definitely think you should've included Jason because he was the opening Ghostface killer of Scream VI. Plus, that's a great opportunity in the future for a Horror Movie Trivia:
Ghostface: "How many killers were in Stab 11 (or whatever it would be)?"
Vicitim: "It was three killers!"
Ghostface: "Sorry, that's the wrong answer."
Vicitim: "No it's not, I've seen that movie 20 damn times."
Ghostface: "Then you should know that there were FOUR killers. Three that were working together and one that doesn't make it past the opening scene."
Hes not a real Ghostface he was a wannabe. He also got slaughtered and humiliated by the Real Ghostface of the film.
@@dylanshorrorchannel1378 That opening bit with Samara Weaving was one of the most original of the series. Definitely Ghostface-caliber in terms of dialogue and unique killing scene. Technically everyone since Billy & Stu is a Ghostface wannabe, plus Mickey & Robby were also killed by other Ghostface killers. So considering Jason was able to get inside of her head, get her alone and stab her while wearing a Ghostface mask, he succeeded in his plan, therefore he is a Ghostface killer.
@@g_wade_13 Yeah your completely wrong Mickey and Charlie not Robbie we’re betrayed by their teammates after a whole film of being a successful Ghostface completely different. This 5”6 dweeb who doesn’t resemble a ghostface killer at all literally had 1 kill and then got absolutely humiliated and straight up slaughtered by Bailey at the very opening of the film. Bailey and his kids were the real ghostfaces also Roman was the one who started everything so he’s definitely not a ghostface wannabe. Jason was such a joke and non ghostface he didn’t even last past the intro so therefore not a real ghostface!
@@dylanshorrorchannel1378 My mistake, Charlie, not Robbie (there’s a reason why he’s the least remembered). But what does his height have anything to do with it?? Jill was 5’2”, Charlie was 5’6”, Amber was 5’3”. And yes, Roman may have started it all with his stalking and videotaping, but he wasn’t the first Ghostface. That honor goes to Billy & Stu. And Jason absolutely resembles a real Ghostface because he stole the opening scene by convincing a woman to walk down a dark alley by herself in NYC, succeeding in killing said woman, then walked right pass one of the main characters whom he was already associated with, and then yes, he was humiliated and slaughtered… just like every other Ghostface has been. The fact that he didn’t last beyond the opening title just means that he’d be on the bottom of the list. It would be like Billy & Stu killing Charlie or Richie. He may have been nowhere near the best Ghostface, but he was still Ghostface for all of about 10-15 minutes.
@@dylanshorrorchannel1378ok humiliated I don’t think so who else besides Ghostface saw him getting murdered and you act like the three Ghostfaces in this movie didn’t get slaughtered
Idk why, because it seems obvious once you said it, but it never occurred that to me that Mickey might have been a serial killer before he even met Mrs Loomis. I just assumed that when she found him he was just expressing his desire to kill. The idea that this wasn’t his first rodeo in the killing department makes him even more interesting, and I’m dying to know more about his backstory now
For us "picky" people....
Technically, Billy and Stu are the only actual serial killers of all of the ghost faces. The rest would be considered "spree killers". Billy and Stu killed Maureen and had a 1 year "cooling off period". That's what classifies them as actual serial killers. Not sure about Mickey, since we don't know if he's murdered before the murders at Windsor.
I actually love Amber as ghsotface. Yes her skillrate isn't really.. good but I like the idea of her attacking Tara to lure Sam into the city
An underrated killer, the author says that Amber has no motive and this is her main problem and that’s why she is so low, but at the same time he put Stu higher, even though Stu is pure evil, you can see some shock on Stu’s face when Billy tells Sydney why he started killing, this suggests that most likely Stu thought that they were doing it purely for fun, Stu had absolutely no motive
Love the fact you put Mickey as first. He is sooo underrated. The effect he had in his small screen time was amazing.
Scream 2.. just epic. Always will be my favourite 🙏
Mickey is amazing! He’s also my number 1
It may not be a popular opinion, but I think there were small hidden gems when it comes to Ethan being one of the killers. If you listen during the reveal Ethan and his dad had a hand in the murder of Ethan's and Quinn's mother. Perhaps for not going along with the plan to go after Sam and Tara, but I think some of the things that would of helped show how unhinged and desperate for approval Ethan was were left on the cutting room floor, but his nature of being a killer before the movie opens is interesting and hasn't been seen since Mickey who also killed people before becoming a Ghostface killer.
There's a reason Scream 2 has always been my favourite in the franchise 🙏 Great Killers, motives, manipulation, suspense! My only complaint is that we dont quite get enough Mickey in the movie. Personally I would have loved to have seen him in the Randy death scene pretending to help find the killer kn the phone with the others but really he's signalling Mrs Loomis to get ready to kill Randy
nothing beats scream 1
Amber is underrated in my opinion. I really enjoy her as a character, I just wish she was in a better film
Surprised Danny Johnson got mentioned. A bit on him, he is one of the killers in the game Dead By Daylight. He is not from the Scream franchise, he is his own character since the rights to the Mask were obtained from FunWorld. Danny is incredibly different from any other Ghostface as his method of killing is way different. He is very smart about everything and takes his times to kill someone. He stalks his victims for even months on end, just so he can strike at the right time. He is more smart and careful, while also still being just as violent as any other Ghostface, if not more than everyone that has dawn the mask. A killer like him in the Scream franchise would be so cool to see as he is very different to any other killer, and it would be a refresher as well
As an avid Dead By Daylight player, it's cool to see Danny get some recognition, though I totally understand why people dont loop him in. Really I think that it's really cool how he does a twist on the usual "making their own story" with how he's the journalist reporting on his own killings.
As much as I want Danny to get more recognition, I don´t think it would be wise to enter Scream. Because either he would be able to kill pretty much everyone, or get nerfed for the purpose of the movie which wouldn´t make him justice.
He is very different from any of the Ghostfaces.
Also I like that you give each character credit for the reasons why they’d be number 1 to someone else. Our lists are pretty different but your reasonings are very fair and make perfect sense. Although our opinions are different I agree with you fully.
I would honestly put Roman into first. He not only effectively killed all on his own and had one of the highest kill counts, he also kicked off every other killer in the list. Especially starting with Billy and Stu. Without convincing those two to do the murders, there wouldn't be other killers trying to uphold the movies that spun from Sydney and co. trauma
I think Scream 6 was a ton of fun and Scream 5 was a pretty solid restart of the franchise but the one down side I've seen so far is that the writers seem to be having a difficult time creating compelling motives for the killers. Scream 2 worked so well for me because Billy's mom is convincing in the idea that she wants pure revenge for losing her son. In Scream 6 it kinda felt like a leap to have this stern, disciplined police detective flip into a deranged serial killer just because his son was a nut. I haven't seen anyone else bring this up specifically but it feels borderline fantastical to tell us that an entire family (2 sons, daughter, and dad) are all down to be serial killers.
My first reason behind why Scream 6 lost me is because of a whole family of serial killers. Felt like Texas Chainsaw instead of Scream. Plus we've already done the whole "familial revenge" plot in 2. It started to feel like this new series is having a pattern of trying to copy and "one up" the originals like with 5 doing the betraying boyfriend from the first. What I loved about 2-4 is they generally went in different directions of motives and roles each time.
One problem I've noticed is that when many Ghostfaces become overrated, they start to become underrated, there are people who don't understand that just because a ghostface is overrated, doesn't mean he's bad.
I notice this with Amber for example, when Scream 5 was released she was very overrated, but then she started to become very underrated, and they started treating her like trash, forgetting everything she did
I feel that roman got Sydney’s number probably from dewey leaving his phone around for roman to quickly take it and have it long enough to get her number. They even sorta elude to it with the whole dewey memory thing
mickey was hilarious and so much fun as a character before and after his reveal, Timothy Olaphant had a great performance in the movie
Roman is my favorite ❤, he was ambitious and resourceful, I also think he had the best lines when it comes to taunting his victims
And let's not forget that fight scene with Sydney in act 3 , it makes you feel that Sydney may not make it at the end
Roman is my favorite, too!
rewatching the movie, I could see how SMART the things he did was
Great video Zach 👍
Especially love the logical reasonings you use for your rankings 💪 Very well thought out 🍺
Love how you always go to bat for Mickey! He's my favorite Ghostface as well, but I didn't use to have the guts to say it, bc if you gave any answer other than Billy, Stu, or Jill, you used to be kind of crucified in the fandom 😅
I go between him and Stu. Usually I place the latter as 1 because I kinda feel Tim was shafted (lack of pre-reveal screentime, then betrayed by the mastermind almost immediately).
IMO they should have made him the solo killer of the series and had Nancy work with Roman. They probably would have hit it off due to their shared loathing of the Prescott women lol.
It's always been funny to me that the fandom at large thinks Jill is this amazing character when her entire motivation is basically a RIP off of Roman's. There's little nuances that distinguish them somewhat, but overall it's basically the same: envy of Sidney. Except it actually kinda makes sense in Roman's case.
Pretty fair ranking, I think mine is somewhere along these lines:
1. Jill Roberts
2. Billy Loomis
3. Mickey Altieri
4. Nancy Loomis
5. Roman Bridger
6. Stu Macher
7. Charlie Walker
8. Richie Kirsch
9. Amber Freeman
10. Wayne Bailey
11. Ethan Landry
12. Quinn Bailey
13. Jason/Greg
Listen here Zack, you can’t just disrespect my homeboy Danny Johnson like that 😂
Great list. Sucks that the new killers have been disappointing when compared to the past ones. Hard to beat Wes and Kevin!
They're not. It's all about dedication.
@@4YrStasis wym
eh i wouldn’t say that. 4 had jill which was the best ghost face imo, 5 was okay, i liked Amber yet Richie was definitely the worst ghostface, and in 6 they weren’t great but i think it’s just that since there was three of them it was hard to give a lot of character to each one. I think Quinn could’ve been a pretty could killer if she hadn’t faked her death so soon, and if she had more screen time in act 3, because she was a pretty fun character. I have to say the ghostfaces in costume were my favorite by far with tactic and brutality. The bodega massacre, anika’s chase/death scene and gales attack were very entertaining and brought very unique ways of killing/attacking.
@@mason610i agree with you. I get it they wanna make fake out death bc the main characters having a big eye out on their suspects but there's other creative ways that the 2 other killers shouldn't be seen though. Like maybe have cour four being in public and have quinn chase them and attack them. Kill 1 or 2 people while in the way. Then fake her death it would been much better. I rather prefer her being the final scare I know the directors wanna give male characters final scare since jill and amber had final scares but it makes Quinn the most scene since she was closer to richie. I for one shouldn't make 3 killers bc it take each other screen time. 2 is enough to develop them and get to know them and have good layering and pasting.
So the takeaway is that the killers keep decreasing in quality over time :(
Zack likes the Wes Craven movies 🤷
@@nicholsonfile In his defense, Radio Silence are just not as good at creating compelling killers
Yep the killers suck more and more
Maybe to a point but there's also a massive factor in nostalgia bias. Every creative work that goes on long enough will have it. It isn't that long ago, we're just a few years removed, from people bashing and downplaying anything good in Scre4m. Quality does vary, as do personal tastes, but pretty much every Scream movie is still a good movie. I honestly think that in time people will find more appreciation for the high points of the newer killers too. And like 3's theme of SA in Hollywood and 4's focus on influencer culture were both things that were present but got even more focus later, 5's dangers of being terminally online and 6's ACAB are likely to age similarly
Quantity and quality are inversely related, I guess...
I KNOW IT TAKES ALOT OF TIME, AND PLANNING AND DETECTIVE WORK… BUT I CANNOT WAIT, AND AM CURRENTLY PATIENTLY WAITING FOR YOUR “Who Killed Who in Scream 6” VIDEO!!!! Ive watched others, and their theories and I also have my own reasons as to who and why I think did it… but your explanations and reasoning are always much appreciated. And you always manage to persuade me to your guesses (which I wouldnt really call them “guesses”) and theories as to why you think “Who Killed Who”. 😊😊
Was waiting on your next ranking zack! Yessir
Hey Zack! I've been a big fan of your channel for a while, and I always look forward to the great Scream content. I completely respect your opinion as everyone should, and I understand we all like what we like for different reasons. With that being said, I have to admit I was pretty surprised with this ranking since you and I usually seem to be on the same page with things. It's all good, though. I hope you don't mind me sharing a few of my own thoughts for the sake of conversation. This is in no way an attempt to change your mind or influence your ranking. I've had a TH-cam channel for 13 years so I know how toxic people can be. That is not my intention at all. Again, I truly do respect your opinion, but thought a respectful discussion between Scream fans would be cool with you.
First, Jason. While I definitely understand ranking him dead last, in fact, he's last in my ranking, I was surprised to hear you don't count him as a full-fledged Scream killer. I almost feel like this is a disservice to Scream VI. They finally gave us a Ghostface reveal early in the film so we could see how that might play out. Not only that, we witness Jason make a phone call, wear the costume, deliver the opening kill, interact with Tara as we learn his motive, and then get killed himself. There is another killer on this list that literally does not kill anyone dressed as Ghostface. I can understand not including Greg, though. I also get not including the TV series killers. I've done rankings with and without them. However, Jason is undoubtedly a full-fledged Ghostface in my opinion, last or not.
Ranking Wayne last might be the most shocking thing of all. Even if the Scream VI killers aren't your favorites (which is clearly the case), I'm not sure I understand why Wayne would be lower than Quinn and Ethan. He was the mastermind, did most of the killing including the badass Bodega kills, set everything up such as the fake names and even a replacement body for Quinn, and not only acquired the items for Richie's collection, but built the actual shrine which is one of the coolest things in the entire franchise. Not to mention, he was sure to place that blame for that on Jason and Greg.
Ethan is the reddest of all red herrings who turns out to not be a red herring at all. I also like what you said about him killing to gain acceptance. Love that. I understand why Ethan would be this low, though... just not above his father. I don't think he finished Mindy off because that just wasn't the plan. He wasn't in costume and was known to be with her. Had she died, of course he would look guilty. Bringing her to the hospital would allow him to potentially get away with it had he made it out of the climax alive.
Amber is a favorite for many. I didn't board the hype train on her until recently, but every time I watch Scream 5, I appreciate her more as a character and killer. She is the female Mickey, or more fittingly, Stu. She's a psycho with a tie to the mastermind (in this case Richie), and there is something appealing about her contention for Sam not having to do with her treatment of Tara, but that she was ultimately sleeping with her boyfriend. Clever touch. I agree about Mikey Madison's energy and spunk. Love it. Not sure what you mean about Richie having a better track record with efficiency. I mean, she attacked more people than he did and had a higher kill count than him (or at least equal) including legacy character Dewey. If Nancy gets extra credit for killing Randy in only his second appearance, Amber deserves maybe even more credit for finally being the one to finish off Dewey. I obviously have her ranked higher, although she was much lower after my first watch of Scream 5. Now she's pretty high for me.
Charlie has the second highest kill count behind Roman. Sure, he wasn't the mastermind, but neither was Mickey who also did most of the work. I know Charlie is usually a bottom tier killer for many, but I find him to be one of the most underrated in the franchise.
Quinn is honestly my second to last. I just don't find the appeal. She has one kill, which while somewhat impressive, is of the character who has the least amount of screentime. Her attack on Gale fails. Her attack on Mindy fails. Her attack on Chad fails. Her attacks during the climax fail. At the very least, she should be below Amber who was punished for lack of efficiency, yet Quinn was far less efficient.
I have Richie somewhere in the middle of my ranking as well. He's a fun character, but a pathetic Ghostface like you said. That's also the point and part of his charm. I think what we learn about him in Scream VI propels him a bit for me. In Scream 5 though, Amber is by far more menacing both as Ghostface and after the reveal.
Roman is my favorite Ghostface and arguably the objective best. He did it all alone (if you don't take the Angelina plan into consideration), has the highest kill count, and in my opinion, had the best chance to get away with it since no one alive would have known his motive. If not for Sidney's bullet proof vest, Roman wins. He was also the one who started it all. Yes, Billy and Stu were the original Ghostfaces, but without Roman's "direction," none of it would have happened. I know he's not everyone's favorite because many rank Scream 3 last, but I feel he at least deserves to be in the top 3 for kill count, intelligence, formidability, success rate, motive, etc. I could go on and on about why he's my favorite. It sounded like most of your issues with him are actually with the movie's script and not him as a killer. You practically said it yourself. Poor Roman. lol.
While Charlie is probably the most underrated Ghostface, Jill is easily the most overrated for me. First of all, according to you (and I agree) she literally doesn't kill anyone as Ghostface. I disagree that she's the smartest. Again, I credit Roman with that. I'd even say Nancy and Billy were smarter. Jill unnecessarily gave herself away. Her lack of intelligence did her in. Sure, she kept her hands clean for the most part, but what did it matter if she was going to make such an amateurish mistake? The shock of her reveal is way more impressive than her as an actual Ghostface. Jason was more of a Ghostface than Jill. I think people get distracted by the scene of her beating herself up. It's awesome, but it doesn't make her a good killer at all. She was way too sloppy and bland as a character like you said.
Stu for me is maybe the most subjective. He's just a great character and in my personal top 3. I do think it's Lillard's performance that raises him for me. As a killer, he's slightly above average, but hey, what can I say, I do love Stu. I agree he's smarter than he appears, and without him, Billy couldn't have done as much.
Nancy is easily the most shocking reveal in the franchise. No one could have seen that coming, and I'll always remember watching that reveal in the theater on opening day... BUT she only killed one person. If Amber doesn't get bonus points for killing Dewey, Nancy shouldn't for killing Randy. It was one kill and a sloppy one at that. What if the guys playing music hadn't walked by at that exact moment? She could have been caught. I get the appreciation of her reveal, but as a killer, top 3 is very high. Of course, that's just my opinion.
Billy at #2... sure. It makes sense. I do find him a bit overrated, mainly because of what you said about Stu. Without Stu, Billy doesn't accomplish much. Just because he was the first doesn't mean he's one of the best, but I do get it. He's iconic so I completely understand that placing.
Mickey being a serial killer is a really interesting concept. He's like the Beth of the TV series in a way. Ironically, I do prefer her. Mickey's intelligence goes out the window with how he is duped by Nancy. He just felt like a pawn to me, even more than Charlie. At least Charlie was, in his mind, killing for his girlfriend and also killing people he genuinely seemed to like (like you said about Mickey). He's more mid-tier for me when it comes to Ghostfaces, and unfortunately, I think he might be one of the most forgettable for casual viewers. I actually think his motive would've been better had it happened later in the franchise. His reveal is pretty lackluster in my opinion, possibly because he wasn't originally supposed to be a killer.
Well, I'll conclude by repeating, I absolutely respect your opinions, and hope you can respect mine. Please feel free to respond. I can talk about this stuff for days. Thanks for all you do on this channel, and I look forward to your next video!
1 Stu - completely Matthew's performance, every line delivery is just stuck in my brain
2 Billy - The real OG, like you said he still has the most impact on the overall franchise out of any killer
3 Mrs Loomis - The best hidden in plain sight killer. not to mention those crazy eyes
4 Richie - ya I know but I love his performance, especially when he's revealed to be the pathetic dweeb he is, it helps to not glorify these psychos when they just completely crumble
5 Mickey - The lack of screentime does keep him from getting any higher for me, he could've easily been another Stu in my book
6 Jill - Her motivation was way ahead of its time and obviously the self mutilation sequence is amazing
7 Amber - I like her lack of motivation tbh, it's kinda the same with Stu because he never really gave a motivation either, but before the reveal she wasn't really that interesting
8 Roman - Purely for the fact that I respect him going solo and being such an effective killer, the main problems are really more of a script issue and not the character
9 Charlie - KIrby actually started to like him, imagine fumbling this bad
10 Wayne - I don't mind the camp of the performance tbh, it at least makes him more memorable for me
11 Ethan - I have already forgotten this guy
12 Quinn - I have also forgotten her but at least Ethan got a better death
I agree 100% except the placement of Amber. I personally would swap her and Richie
My ranking is Billy, Mickey, Stu, Roman, Mrs. Loomis, Jill, Quinn, Charlie, Richie, Bailey, Amber, and Ethan.
Billy, Mickey, and Roman are the smartest to me. And the scene in the precinct where Mickey is able to plant that seed of doubt in Sidney’s mind really screwed her up for the rest of the movie. Roman was ultimately the mastermind, Billy carried out his plan so well, and Stu was pure chaos that was fun to watch.
Stu is probably the craziest of them all. He legit had no reason for killing anyone except for the thrill of it. The fact he was the one to set up moat of Billy's targets without he killing as many, shows just how insane he really was.
Didn't Stu kill 4 and Billy 3?
You know, the statement Nancy makes in 2 about Mickey, saying he's "a young serial killer on the way up" didn't register that maybe he'd been killing people before the events of 2... That really broadens him a lot more. Sydney defs did the world a favor with that one. 😂
Your videos are the best. So well thought-out and honest.
Thank you =)
Roman is my favorite Ghostface! Because of his well-written dialogue in the end scene, Scott Foley's acting, and the fact that he has been the only solo killer, really make him a credible mastermind, IMO. Thank you for bringing up the fight scene between him and Sidney at the end. For most of the other Ghostfaces, you'll notice that once the mask comes off, they become less physically formidable, slower, etc. But not Roman. And even though this bit is Roger Jackson and not Scott Foley, Roman's Ghostface has my favorite lines of dialogue/monologue "She had a new life and a new name, Maureen PRESCOTT! YOU were the only child she claimed, Sidney! She shut me out in the cold forEVER, her OWN SONNNNNN...." the way Jackson says that is just perfection. It is a fair criticism that there's really nothing throughout the movie, even when watched on repeat viewings, to hint at Roman being Ghostface, but on the other hand, his reveal was at least surprising, unlike the reveals in Scream 5 and 6. I think the film does a pretty good job of making you think it is the detective without being too obviously misleading.
Mrs. Loomis is my #2. I think she was the most surprising reveal, and she and Roman had the best motives.
I totally agree that! Roman was my favorite too, until Richie wasn't (now Roman is my #2). And in my ranking also has Mrs. Loomis after Roman, and finally someone else besides me thinks that she was the most surprising ghostface!😆😆
So they are really the best ones😅
@@matehorvath1203 I'm personally not a big fan of Richie. I thought his identity as one of the killers was pretty obvious. But I suppose he was okay. Anything after 3 gets kind of a "meh" from me.
I have pretty much the same order except it's Billy before Mickey and it's Roman before Jill.
i think this channel has made me appreciate mickey a lot more than i imagined
I’m very shock you put Roman that low. He is honestly the best killer in the whole series. He did everything alone, he was the most clever, had the best relatable and understanding motive for being a killer and is responsible for the entire series to begging with
scream 6 gotta be the worst killers of the whole franchise
Mickey has always been my favorite Ghostface. He never gets the respect he deserves. And Timothy Olyphant nailed the performance.
Amber was so poorly written that her actress saved her through acting. Honestly if she wasnt hilarious during her final fight at the kitchen she would have been the worst one for me
Controversial, but I like your top pick. Mickey is underrated and I think the effect he had on Sidney is more than even Billy and Stu. He killed her best friend and boyfriend and would have killed her if Mrs. Loomis hadn't double-crossed him so she could get the satisfaction of the kill herself. I also think the scene in the play, hiding among the cloaked and masked figures, is very underrated and is especially interesting to analyze on rewatch because you initially think, "Oh Sidney's cracking" but you clearly see him run offstage the second after he scares her. Prime psychological torture and he didn't even have a grudge against her. He was just an already active serial killer who wanted college tuition money and fame.
Yeah but he seemed weak minded.
Amber stans going to come after you Zack 😂
I love her but she’s simply up against some amazing ghost faces
Jill and Amber simps are unconvincing 😂
I’ve seen a lot of these but never ranked my own so here it goes lol
12-Amber Freeman
11-Nancy Loomis
10-Wayne Kirsch
9-Quinn Kirsch
8-Jill Roberts
7-Ethan Kirsch
6-Richie Kirsch
5-Charlie Walker
4-Mickey Alteri
3-Roman Bridger
2-Stu Macher
1-Billy Loomis
These types of videos are the best thing for my day😊
I wish Danny Johnson got his own movie so I can see what he is really capable of in action.
I honestly like Richie a lot. I think he was an obvious killer but I think he did the best "supportive" scenes out of the killers outside of Mickey probably.
Loved the ranking man , totally agree with Mickey being friends with them and then detaching himself to get the work done!
great ranking Zach finnaly someone who put Roman higher im big fan of Roman Bridger
Charlie is still so underrated IMO. The scene where we think he kills Kirby tells so much about his character. The pay off to the not so subtle crush they hinted at in the first scene with him and Kirby. The fact that he has these deep feelings for Kirby, while still being this deeply disturbed individual. Kirby and Jill represent the duality of Charlie's internal struggle. On the one side, he's attracted to this normal, strong individual in Kirby that represents his desire to be normal and to fit in. On the other side, he falls for Jill's manipulation as she embraces him the way Kirby doesn't. So in the almost kill scene, you see that pain come out because he all but admits that if Kirby had shown even the slightest interest in Charlie sooner, he may have gone down a different path. You see the pain in his face when he stabs her. It's not only the pain of the rejection he's felt from her for years, but the pain he has in what he's become because he's asking why couldn't this affection have come sooner, and maybe I wouldn't be who I am today. Then when Jill betrays him, it's such a tragic karmatic retribution. Also, Charlie kills everyone lol.
Zack: The problem with Amber is she’s a killer for the sake of being a killer
Also Zack: ranks Mickey as #1 who’s literally a killer for the sake of being a killer
😭
Amber multiple times mentioned the movie they were making, so I think Zack just forgets a lot.
Yeah. He has an inexplicable deep seated hatred for Amber.
Zack: They weren't in the movie that often enough to have any weight to the story as Ghostface.
Also Zack: Who cares if Mickey is barely in the movie.
You boys know this is just his opinion, right? Simplifying a person's thoughts on a film series to two summaries sentences that conflict is so childish and petty.
Mickey is a killer for hire. He then went on to shave his head and call himself agent 47
I wasn’t sure if Stu would be third or fourth for me, but I agree 100%. Without Matthew Lillard, the character wouldn’t be nearly as memorable. There’s so many one-liners that he sells in a way that other actors couldn’t. “My mom and dad are gonna be so maaad at me!” cracks me up.
Would have put Billy over Mickey (maybe that’s me thinking of the quality of Scream 1 > 2) , but I’m good with your list overall.
Honestly did not expect these rankings! (The middle ones were the only couple I guessed, like Roman.) I appreciate you explaining your thoughts behind them.
Love your videos! Keep up with the good work!
I love your Scream videos. I agree that the latest killers belong towards the end of the list
I will never get enough of your lists!
Solid Ghostface ranking! I think the only differences I would have are Roman would be higher than Jill for me, because I just didn't like her motive as much as Roman's. And definitely Stu would be higher than Mickey for me only because of the first movie killer bias. Great stuff though! I enjoy all of your content!
I Did love Amber as a killer. Because of her psycho energy after her unmasking. Shes one of my favorites
Mickey and Scream 2 will always be my favorites.
That was one of my favourite videos. Love the thoughtfulness of the ranking. Billy #1 for me but I’ll do a ranking soon and tag ya on Twitter
I always go back and forth between Billy and Mickey as my number. Mickey definitely is the scariest because of the whole him being a hired killer thing. Never thought about how many people he might have killed before Nancy found him. That might permanently bump him above Billy for me. Not to mention I love his motive of wanting to be caught and turn his trial into a spectacle. I tend to favor the more unique motives above the standard revenge ones that have been the basis for a good chunk of the killers from the franchise.
A few years ago, we did GhostFace for Halloween and we all picked our favorite killer to portray and I picked my favorite Mickey and no one knew why. Now I can show them
Great video as always! :)
Here's my ranking. I gave each ghost face ratings from 1 to 10 based on 10 different categories and the avarage determined it's position in my general ranking!
If there are any questions to some specific ratings feel free to ask, haha.
01// Billy Loomis 9.5/10
Reveal 9
Motive 10
Kills 8
Intelligence 10
Non ghostface appearence 10
Switch after killer reveal 10
Death 8
Acting Performance 10
Threat level/Scary 10
Effect on Sidney 10
02// Nancy Loomis 8.4/10
Reveal 10
Motive 10
Kills 4
Intelligence 10
Non ghostface appearence 8
Switch after killer reveal 9
Death 7
Acting Performance 10
Threat level/Scary 10
Effect on Sidney 6
03// Jill Roberts 8.2/10
Reveal 9
Motive 9
Kills 8
Intelligence 10
Non ghostface appearence 2
Switch after killer reveal 10
Death 9
Acting Performance 9
Threat level/Scary 9
Effect on Sidney 7
04// Amber Freeman 8/10
Reveal 10
Motive 10
Kills 6
Intelligence 8
Non ghostface appearence 3
Switch after killer reveal 10
Death 10
Acting Performance 10
Threat level/Scary 9
Effect on Sam/Tara 4
05// Mickey Altieri 7.9/10
Reveal 7
Motive 6
Kills 10
Intelligence 8
Non ghostface appearence 3
Switch after killer reveal 10
Death 5
Acting Performance 10
Threat level/Scary 10
Effect on Sidney 10
06// Stu Mucher 7.4/10
Reveal 9
Motive 4
Kills 8
Intelligence 2
Non ghostface appearence 10
Switch after killer reveal 10
Death 10
Acting Performance 10
Threat level/Scary 10
Effect on Sidney 1
07// Richie Kirsch 7/10
Reveal 6
Motive 10
Kills 6
Intelligence 3
Non ghostface appearence 9
Switch after killer reveal 6
Death 10
Acting Performance 9
Threat level/Scary 3
Effect on Sam/Tara 8
08// Quinn Bailey 5.7/10
Reveal 1
Motive 1
Kills 1
Intelligence 8
Non ghostface appearence 9
Switch after killer reveal 10
Death 6
Acting Performance 8
Threat level/Scary 10
Effect on Sam/Tara 3
09// Roman Bridger 5.3/10
Reveal 2
Motive 4
Kills 2
Intelligence 10
Non ghostface appearence 7
Switch after killer reveal 5
Death 9
Acting Performance 7
Threat level/Scary 3
Effect on Sidney 4
10// Wayne Bailey 3.3/10
Reveal 1
Motive 1
Kills 9
Intelligence 5
Non ghostface appearence 3
Switch after killer reveal 2
Death 8
Acting Performance 1
Threat level/Scary 2
Effect on Sam/Tara 1
11// Charlie Walker 3.2/10
Reveal 2
Motive 1
Kills 9
Intelligence 2
Non ghostface appearence 4
Switch after killer reveal 1
Death 6
Acting Performance 5
Threat level/Scary 1
Effect on Sidney 1
12// Ethan Landry 2.6/10
Reveal 1
Motive 1
Kills 1
Intelligence 2
Non ghostface appearence 2
Switch after killer reveal 4
Death 8
Acting Performance 5
Threat level/Scary 1
Effect on Sam/Tara 1
Seeing most of the female killers being towards the top of my list makes my wish for a sequel with only female killers so much bigger 🥲
npc list
In terms of being a threat, I would put Stu at 3 and Nancy Loomis at 12 and that cop guy at 4. That cop guy stabbed a guy surrounded by witnesses in the middle of a store. He's actually kinda intimidating and I think its mostly thanks to the stuntman absolutely carrying Ghostface in Scream 6. An actually menacing killer.
Dwane wasnt the Ghostface in the bodega
my ghost face rankings:
12th: wayne
11th: quinn
10th: charlie
9th: ethan
8th: mrs loomis
7th: richie
6th: billy
5th: amber
4th: stu
3rd: mickey
2nd: jill
1st: roman
Adding a piece of info Mickey used Sidney's trauma to make her think boyfriend was his partner then shot him revealing to Sidney that he was buffing
What I don't get about Quinn is if she was their roommate, Why not just kill them in their sleep?
It's one of those slasher movie things where they could kill you quickly (like in your sleep, as you said) but they seem more inclined to torment you first and kill people around you to make you suffer before finally trying to kill you directly. And they all seem to get off on having their big climactic reveal, rubbing it in your face they've been the one doing this to you all along. Also, it seemed like part of their goal was to finish Richie's movie to honor him.
Plus realistically if they die in their sleep and the roommate is like omg I don’t hear anything, they are kinda the first suspect ID assume
Yes Zack ranking mickey as 1# because he is the G.O.A.T. extremely creepy,effective but also very charismatic,entertaining,and humorous perfect blend for a cloak and dagger serial killer
Mickey Altieri is my favorite he has the best combat experience out of all the GhostFace, and he was a serial killer before becoming a GhostFace. This makes him so dark, like he enjoys killing people and does it for a living, too. This would make Mickey the ultimate advantage for having more kills under his belt before the Windsor College Murders.
Technically Charlie wasn’t an “incel” since he was in a lowkey relationship with Jill.
Richie has some of the best non ghost face moments in the franchise imo. He's top 3 characters out of the killers imo. His motive is good. I actually like that he ends up being pathetic as a killer too.
Is your motive good? What? Is not liking a silly little movie a good reason to start a killing spree? If he killed anyone. All of the above reasons were better: home destroyed by maternal abandonment, child's death, gaining infamy as a murderer, maternal rejection, neglectful mother, and need for attention. Even Stu and Charlie's motives are better and are more in line with real life. Other slash movies like Urban Legend and Prom Night had better motives.
@@itswariotime7543 Do you think scream 7 should not have a motive? And have mindy make referential jokes to heath ledger joker?
he had the worst motive, amber too. and he has to be the worst killer without a debate, his relationship with amber was weird and pervy. also his character was weak and annoying i don’t know why anybody likes him.
@@mason610 Because he's Jack Quaid?
@@mason610 His character was fine before the reveal serving as silly, fearful comic relief. After the revelation his character is terrible, practically a crybaby. Amber just used this motivation to make a movie as an excuse to kill, notice that she looks excited when stabbing her victims and jumps up and down in act 3. Amber is one of the best Ghostfaces and Richie is the worst along with Quinn and Charlie.
Mine:
1.)Jill Roberts
2.)Roman Bridger
3.)Mickey Alteri
4.)Billy Loomis
5.)Stu Macher
6.)Amber Freeman
7.)Nancy Loomis
8.)Quinn Kirsch
9.)Richie Kirsch
10.)Ethan Landry
11.)Detective Bailey
12.)Charlie Walker
My top 3 are Billy, Nancy, and Jill. My bottom 3 are the Kirsch family in 6.
Mickey getting the love he finally deserves.
Mickey was literally gone for half the movie. His backstory about being a serial killer is cool, but I just wanted more screen time.
Also I do think Jill was the to kill Hoss and Perkins, there’s just no way Charlie would’ve had enough time to show up to Jill’s house and kill them, drive them down the street, then go back for Sidney and Kate. I think Jill snuck out, killed them, loaded them back into the car with Charlie’s help, and then drove the car down the street where she probably was picked up by kirby.
The logistics aren't as tight with Scream 4, but it's established that Kirby picked up Jill and they had already been at Kirby's house for a while before Charlie and Robbie arrived. And then later on Charlie was the one who was holding onto the cops gun, which he gives to Jill.
My rankings:
#1: Jill Roberts
#2: Stu Macher
#3: Amber Freeman
#4: Quinn Bailey-Kirsch
#5: Wayne Bailey-Kirsch
#6: Nancy Loomis
#7: Richie Kirsch
#8: Billy Loomis
#9: Ethan Bailey-Kirsch
#10: Charlie Walker
#11: Roman Bridger
#12: Mickey Altieri
Wtf you have two of the best killers last place? But trash amber and quinn at #3 and 4? You new fans need to find a new franchise to destroy