Brilliant video can’t believe I never got one of these when they used to get chucked into bins ..I remember seeing one of these get smashed up in a second hand shop because he had it for sale for £30 and no one wanted it and it was taking up room in his shop..he tried selling it me but it was at the time everyone was moving over to computer based recording so gear like this was seen as unhip and useless..,,man there worth a fortune now lol
Thank you James, thank you for the fat stems and another bit of knowledge shared! Can't say it enough that i learned a lot, just from watching your videos! In contrast to other Sample Companies, whose videos are mostly just some bombast void of any educational value, one can always learn something from your product videos! What i would like to learn, resp hear your thoughts on is what consists a good master for you these days, in particular how loud & dynamic you think a master should be.
Thank you James! The beatmaker's beatmaker! Love so many of the products you release. Looking forward to giving this a run out. Thank god guys like you exist cos I can only dream of producing drums as good as this. Do you intend on releasing another drum trax product in the near future? Ideally house 120bpm+ please ha. Also, can't wait for grid trilogy! Thanks again!
Also, is there any chance you could do a video showing how to incorporate pedals into the production - I know you gave us a small taster here - but a video showing syncing, integration, chaining etc would be great! 😀
Great video. I love HQ SP videos like this so thank you. Nice way to play the hihats with different velocity. The SP does have dynamic buttons but from reading how it works I guess its not very useful (The vibration of the 'whole machine' (not a single button) is measured with a piezo crystal. The voltage of this crystal is read by the ADC and used to set the output level). You can turn this on in Setup 14. If it doesn't work the crystal is probably broken or need to recalibrate. Damn I want that machine but not for the price the go today.
I honestly did not know that and will be bang on that next week - The manual entry for it is hilarious - Just read it .... " Electrical Engineers around the country will burst out laughing when they discover how we did it ..." . So glad you enjoyed it - I was incredibly lucky to pick this one up at less than half the going rate thanks to a local ebayer who just didnt want to charge silly money for it
The SP1200 and UADs Luna is a dream combination. Use the DAW (Luna) as a mixing desk and keep the SP 'live'. Lunas ARM mode means zero latency so you can jam the SP through it - track 8 tracks into DAW and jam the SP over the top - unlimited tracks
I think a live loop I’d made .. I have a number of ribbon mics at the studio and even the cheap T bone mics from Thomann do wonders with metal percussion as they have little response over 15K
@@mynickname6787 Because the simplest workflow for loops that allows you to to get the 'sound' of the SP is to get something working in time in Ableton using traditional Ableton warp , then sample it into the SP1200 and then spit it back out -
@@mynickname6787 not if the Loop is at a different tempo - the SP has a low bit parameter for the pitch of the sample so can be hit or miss getting it in time .. sometimes this is useful as you get the SP ‘ring’ when you detune anything on the machine but with a HF component like a tamb loop I find you just want the 12 bit-thru-a-filter-chip sound
Yes _it has 12 bit convertors - Remember this is not 12 times lower than the modern normal of 24 bit - it's binary maths - a 12 bit system has only 4096 possible values when sampling each point - a 24 bit system has over 16 million possible values when sampling .. Also - on playback the samples are then reconverted to audio from sample stream and passed through analog filter chips to remove some of the crispy top end - There's also a fixed sample frequency inside the unit so when samples are detuned against it, you get an aliasing frequency in the output .. It never ceases to amaze me how clever the engineers were at problem solving - and how many times we invent a non perfect system - refine it and then realise it was funkier in it's original form
Why aren't there modern companies building samplers with innards equivalent to the SP1200 or the Akai S950, but with an improved interface, form-factor, and workflows? Everybody loves and covets these machines...I just don't get why there's this gap in the market...you'd think in today's age making something like this would be a doddle. 🤔
I've said this a Zillion times - Either a sampler or a hardware in / out grot box that emulates these machines - 8 bit, 12 bit and 16 bit with Dual stereo analog filters and controls to jitter the clocks
It would be great to have a hardware interface that could do that. Maybe the UAD Apollo could add it? In the mean time there’s a plug-in called RX950 that can give you some of the crunch and also the filter of the Akai S950
I think YOu would need to find one you can go and check out - They reissued them in the 90s and these ones are slightly cheaper and with better ( modern ) power supplies .. .However they are all like owning a classic car - at some point, you will have an expensive repair bill - it's just part and parcel of owning vintage devices ... Considering the prices I would avoid anything on Ebay that worries you and stick 100% with trusted sellers either there or reverb.com
Sounds fantastic. The missing ingredient from modern polished productions - as good as they are. There's a lot to be said for these old machines and the character they imbued on 90's music
It’s amazing to think just how many times we’ve stepped forward with music technology, cleaned it all up and then gone ‘hang on - all that old stuff just sounds better’ … I just love the fact that thin was designed to be as affordable as could be and then those considerations ended up creating a sound that was a vital ingredient as you say to so many 90s classics .. along Live these wonderful old boxes
A massive thank you for the download James, responding to your invitation I have woven the stems into this track. With such choice of sounds to use I didn't stick to the K.I.S.S format which perhaps takes the sharpness away in parts. Best I could do with the vocal track recording but I enjoyed working on the project. Not perfect but not bad for a learner. soundcloud.com/soundgrounder/from-the-start-ft-jenna-evans-ext-mix
Kinda hurt me eyes the hard clipping in 3:03 wouldn't be better recording at lower level and then using glue compressor's soft clipping or saturator plugin with a smoother waveform? Nevertheless the final result is awesome
fire !!!!! great video
Ive just got my SP1200 and loved seeing this process. Cant wait to dig into the SP1200 sounds.
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@Gorilla Braudcast mind mutants yeah I know that.. but it does have its own "sound" when sampling. That's what I was referring to.
Amazing 😮 Thats why i like to listen to house music these drum grooves make me wanna move ✌️
Great workflow! Gives me some ideas for my samplers
A complete banger to start with. Thank you.
🔥🔥🔥
Very very neat. Enjoyed watching this, great work ;)
Superb James ..... love that SP sound :)
Brilliant video can’t believe I never got one of these when they used to get chucked into bins ..I remember seeing one of these get smashed up in a second hand shop because he had it for sale for £30 and no one wanted it and it was taking up room in his shop..he tried selling it me but it was at the time everyone was moving over to computer based recording so gear like this was seen as unhip and useless..,,man there worth a fortune now lol
Very useful and practical tutorial on making pro house drums. F9 always delivering top quality educational content.
those are some big SD cards :P
No, it's floppy discs. I think
yea its floppy disks, i was jesting haha @@dimmapetrenko
😂
Thank you James, thank you for the fat stems and another bit of knowledge shared! Can't say it enough that i learned a lot, just from watching your videos! In contrast to other Sample Companies, whose videos are mostly just some bombast void of any educational value, one can always learn something from your product videos! What i would like to learn, resp hear your thoughts on is what consists a good master for you these days, in particular how loud & dynamic you think a master should be.
yoooo this is 🔥 🔥 🔥
That was just awesome, thank you
this why i like F9 audio - a compagnies of beatmaker for beatmaker 👍
SP1200 GRIT! Big Tight House Drums! Big Thank You! I'm Grateful!
awesome video, these stems sound incredible!
Great video! Can you record some Chords or disco loops into it? Would love to hear that !
Great stuff as always! :D
If i an hit the like button on this video more than once i would!!!! I cant wait to get my sp1200 thanks for this video!!!!!
Banger!
Fire loops, instant Sub :-)
Appreciate it! - Thank you Markus
Cheers James, very cool free samples.. will be used..
Fantastic video as always James, that drum machine sounds massive
Thanks a lot! Keep it Up James!
Thank you James! The beatmaker's beatmaker! Love so many of the products you release. Looking forward to giving this a run out. Thank god guys like you exist cos I can only dream of producing drums as good as this. Do you intend on releasing another drum trax product in the near future? Ideally house 120bpm+ please ha. Also, can't wait for grid trilogy! Thanks again!
Brilliant, as often. Thank You a lot
James is a genius
Thank u for these sick stems 🙏
Yes have this
Also, is there any chance you could do a video showing how to incorporate pedals into the production - I know you gave us a small taster here - but a video showing syncing, integration, chaining etc would be great! 😀
Thanx alot !
Hey James, Great tutorials, any maschine mk3 or mikro mk3 house drum tutorials in future maybe?
Great Vid . jah love
Thanks a lot!!
noice!!!!
Genius
Great video. I love HQ SP videos like this so thank you. Nice way to play the hihats with different velocity. The SP does have dynamic buttons but from reading how it works I guess its not very useful (The vibration of the 'whole machine' (not a single button) is measured with a piezo crystal. The voltage of this crystal is read by the ADC and used to set the output level). You can turn this on in Setup 14. If it doesn't work the crystal is probably broken or need to recalibrate. Damn I want that machine but not for the price the go today.
I honestly did not know that and will be bang on that next week - The manual entry for it is hilarious - Just read it .... " Electrical Engineers around the country will burst out laughing when they discover how we did it ..." . So glad you enjoyed it - I was incredibly lucky to pick this one up at less than half the going rate thanks to a local ebayer who just didnt want to charge silly money for it
very cool 😎
Subscribed!
Reverse cymbal was key! Very nice =)
The SP1200 and UADs Luna is a dream combination. Use the DAW (Luna) as a mixing desk and keep the SP 'live'. Lunas ARM mode means zero latency so you can jam the SP through it - track 8 tracks into DAW and jam the SP over the top - unlimited tracks
I’m going to have to try Luna with drums - heard some very good reports
awesome awesome awesome. try setup - 14 though, velocity sensitivity IS a thing
Hey man quick question - what interface are you recording the Sp1200 into? Is it an 8 in?
Michael Luciano - Yes -I’m very lucky to have an Apogee Synphony 16 in/out ... it’s the older one but it’s awesome
Now it's time for bassline and some chords :)
Beat from start to finish. Just 1 minute in, "I have already done some programming", basically the whole shazam lol
5:37 where did you sample the tambourine from?
I think a live loop I’d made .. I have a number of ribbon mics at the studio and even the cheap T bone mics from Thomann do wonders with metal percussion as they have little response over 15K
@@F9Audio how is it that it firstly appears in the Ableton (and then in the SP) if you sampled it into the SP and then record it into the Ableton
@@mynickname6787 Because the simplest workflow for loops that allows you to to get the 'sound' of the SP is to get something working in time in Ableton using traditional Ableton warp , then sample it into the SP1200 and then spit it back out -
@@F9Audio oh word i thought the simplest way would be to sample into the SP and then record into the Ableton
@@mynickname6787 not if the Loop is at a different tempo - the SP has a low bit parameter for the pitch of the sample so can be hit or miss getting it in time .. sometimes this is useful as you get the SP ‘ring’ when you detune anything on the machine but with a HF component like a tamb loop I find you just want the 12 bit-thru-a-filter-chip sound
The punchiest shit in existence, no one but SP can make anything as punchy as this
House is the most difficult genre ever, point! ❤❤❤❤❤
Where are the samples from?
So , do you import normal samples and the unit down samples the quality so it sounds crunchy?
Yes _it has 12 bit convertors - Remember this is not 12 times lower than the modern normal of 24 bit - it's binary maths - a 12 bit system has only 4096 possible values when sampling each point - a 24 bit system has over 16 million possible values when sampling .. Also - on playback the samples are then reconverted to audio from sample stream and passed through analog filter chips to remove some of the crispy top end - There's also a fixed sample frequency inside the unit so when samples are detuned against it, you get an aliasing frequency in the output .. It never ceases to amaze me how clever the engineers were at problem solving - and how many times we invent a non perfect system - refine it and then realise it was funkier in it's original form
Why aren't there modern companies building samplers with innards equivalent to the SP1200 or the Akai S950, but with an improved interface, form-factor, and workflows? Everybody loves and covets these machines...I just don't get why there's this gap in the market...you'd think in today's age making something like this would be a doddle. 🤔
I've said this a Zillion times - Either a sampler or a hardware in / out grot box that emulates these machines - 8 bit, 12 bit and 16 bit with Dual stereo analog filters and controls to jitter the clocks
@@F9Audio Couldn't agree more strongly, it's a no-brainer, they'd sell like crazy!
It would be great to have a hardware interface that could do that. Maybe the UAD Apollo could add it? In the mean time there’s a plug-in called RX950 that can give you some of the crunch and also the filter of the Akai S950
DJ Smasherelly Cheers buddy, yea I have a copy of the RX950, it not too bad eh! 👍
@@KevinArdala01 "sp2400" from islainstruments, and there is a dude doing home prototype you can find him on instagram @low_hiss
Isla SP2400 is coming soon
Crunch!
🤟🤟🤟
Where is the best place I can get an Sp1200??
I think YOu would need to find one you can go and check out - They reissued them in the 90s and these ones are slightly cheaper and with better ( modern ) power supplies .. .However they are all like owning a classic car - at some point, you will have an expensive repair bill - it's just part and parcel of owning vintage devices ... Considering the prices I would avoid anything on Ebay that worries you and stick 100% with trusted sellers either there or reverb.com
Sounds fantastic. The missing ingredient from modern polished productions - as good as they are. There's a lot to be said for these old machines and the character they imbued on 90's music
It’s amazing to think just how many times we’ve stepped forward with music technology, cleaned it all up and then gone ‘hang on - all that old stuff just sounds better’ … I just love the fact that thin was designed to be as affordable as could be and then those considerations ended up creating a sound that was a vital ingredient as you say to so many 90s classics .. along Live these wonderful old boxes
@@F9Audio Well said man.
I am buying the s2400 because of THIS video..😅
A massive thank you for the download James, responding to your invitation I have woven the stems into this track. With such choice of sounds to use I didn't stick to the K.I.S.S format which perhaps takes the sharpness away in parts. Best I could do with the vocal track recording but I enjoyed working on the project. Not perfect but not bad for a learner. soundcloud.com/soundgrounder/from-the-start-ft-jenna-evans-ext-mix
fuckin cream!
Kinda hurt me eyes the hard clipping in 3:03
wouldn't be better recording at lower level and then using glue compressor's soft clipping or saturator plugin with a smoother waveform?
Nevertheless the final result is awesome
It's recorded into an Apogee Symphony with -4db soft clip enabled hence the ridiculous level .. But yes It does look scary on the vid ..
@@F9Audio Thanks for the clarification!
Hi James