Your clips are such an inspiration for me as a bedroom industrial producer. You make really cool and authentic sound seem achievable without a metric ton of expensive gear.
Tbh thats the goal. I want to show that everyone can do it. I used to have TONS of gear. And after 20 years I realized that the less I had the more music I was making. It's much simpler. And in 2024 you can achieve ANY sound with 50-100$ softwares...Even free ones hehe
Great tip on the layering of analog and FM. I didn’t know that’s how Nitzer Ebb did it. I’m really glad to have an industrial focused synth guy putting out great stuff. Keep it up.
When I saw NE a few years ago, what I noticed was that the synth bass sound was the same, but that's the beauty of NE, like DAF, they're so rudimentary. They kicked ass on stage, and I hate to say, they blew 242 off the stage.
@@wildphilpresents You probably didn't watch the video. Because that's exactly what Bon Harris posted on his instagram page. I just replicated it with modern softwares. Yes they did much more processing obviously, but the basics are there and that's why I did it. Having this said, thanks for commenting :)
Love seeing Dexed in there. It’s become one of my favorites especially for creating bass sounds and every time I see you’ve released a new video I know I get excited. I’m always inspired to try something different or to look at my soft synths a little different. Keep up the good work!
Great video. I love layering my OBX-8 with my DX7. It was a very popular technique used in the 80s. One of my favorite FM editors is the Opsix. It has such a great workflow. Dexed is great too. It makes working on patches a lot more fun and faster. Really enjoy your videos, keep them coming!
Who knows how long I would have spent pin-pointing which song it was. I "knew" it, but wasn't sure which song it was. I was going to start with Hard-Wired. So thank you for saving me the time wracking my brain!
Great tutorial! Using hardware with their 2x VCOs and 1x digital OSC the Korg Prologue and Minilogue XD are a pleasure to create layered sounds like this.
This was great man! So awesome to have an Industrial centered channel that really goes in depth into the techniques used to make this kind of stuff. There really isn't a lot on this topic so even me who considers what they do to be somewhere in the industrial music genre but not fully, super helpful and interesting. Awesome channel!!
I’ve been experimenting around adding distortion but adding just a hint of it. Just enough to bring some fizziness but not so much to lose clarity. I’ve loved the FM effect added to make it sound wider. Great song too.
oh yeah of course!! I mean FM is often overlooked because of its complexity. But when you find the right mix between both, it sounds SO good. FM sounds always reminds me of Front 242 hehe
@@Tonepusher yes it’s obvious your passion for the genre. You can hear that laid back beat in many Chemlab, 16volt, and other early 90s industrial. I am sure it was pioneered by earlier group. In my opinion that’s one of the best characteristics of industrial. The synth bass and the drum groove !
@@SoundProtocols oh yeah 100%, industrial is very drum focused. At least that's how I start my tracks 90% of the time. Drum first then bass, once you got that the rest is just icing on the cake haha
sweet, i know that FLA. Used a S1000 but the point to get that punch is because when you sample a Minimoog (your holding the power of the bass since analog phases as it moves) and also same with Pro 1 and by the time you layer those through a S1000 you get pure Caustic Grip ripping bass.
@@Tonepusher IF you can Learn, and you know how modular synths work, yes. They have libraries, forums, etc. it’s complicated but can’t beat it being free.
FLA - PLASTICITY!!! Literally one of my go to industrial bass sounds as a reference. Sounds awesome!!! I really need to get Serum but I've got Dexxed and a Behringer Pro 1 so I'll see what I can come up with, being a synth noob. Really love your videos man, been searching for at least 2 years for your sort of content and nobody offers it, you've got the real potential to be "the guy" when it comes to industrial sounds and production. Would love to see some videos for noobs like myself, maybe mixing tips for the genre and beginner "how to" sounds. People would eat that up, as a teenager I would've been absolutely obsessed! Anyway, great video!
thanks man :) yeah well I've been doing this for 20+ years so I know exactly what you mean haha I wish I had that type of videos when I started :) Happy to share my ''tricks''! 🤘
Such a classic haha love the energy of that track hehe! Dude layering the arp2600 with a DX7 must be epic haha You should definitely sample them into your DAW!
Fun fact: The album "Caustic Grip" by Front Line Assembly (where "Resist" is from) uses FM surprisingly little, it's mostly sampled Minimoog and Pro-One sounds on an Akai, sequenced on an Atari ST (I think). "Gashed Senses and Crossfire" was the most prominent use of FM synthesis from FLA, every track is oooooozing with it.
yeah you're 100% right, like I said in the video LOTS of them were using the pro-one sampled into the AKAI. I heard Rhys in a podcast saying that almost the entire album (caustic grip) was processed through an Akai S900 I think. But on ''Resist'' you can clearly hear the FM layer too. I COULD be wrong of course, I'm human! haha
@@Tonepusher yeah I think there's a definite thin layer in there, it's a crazy dense mix, Greg Reely deserves mad credit for being able to get the thing sounding so incredible, I would have been melting down trying to make a mix like that sound punchy and clear haha
Thanks Tonepusher. I'd love to see you do a video on how to make the bass from "Godhead" by Nitzer Ebb. I'd also love to see one on the bass for "Moldavia" from Front 242. That bending effect about a minute in. Love your videos.
hey! yeah man that Godhead bass is so good hehe Could be cool to remake it! Also the Moldavia one sound like FM to me too. Never know though, I could be wrong hehe.
That mix at the end is sick af, especially the drum line with the blip noise sample when it's isolated at the start. Got any tips for drum lines like that?
Thanks man!! well I guess the first tip I'd have to sound more ''retro industrial'' would be to stay away from 4x4 beats as much as possible. Use claps/blip sounds and also retro toms. I guess I should make a video on that haha
I've got Dexxed and the original presets... can you recommend a starting point? Anything without physical nobs is very confusing for my brain... afterall I'm just a basic guitarist used to playing with pedals
Hey! it's one of my song that I'm working on :) I'll announce it here when it's done 🤘🏻 Also, I can't use copyrighted music on TH-cam. That's why I mostly use live videos.
@@lucascabral6976 Looool FLA is Front Line Assembly about my old song Systems thanks a lot . Check out the other ones or see us live on Bim festival soon in Belgium together with Clock DVA ,Pankow,Suicide Commando etc etc . Greetings 🖖
@@Tonepusher not really. TX rack was cheaper and in every home studio in the early nineties. Not to say DX7 wasn’t the thing to have, just that bunch of smaller studios would opt for TX because of rack format, and the price. Plus, many patches from DX can be replicated on TX, although it’s a 4 operator FM vs 6 on DX7. I mean, chuck lately bass into distortion, Rhys Fulber approves :) Yes, DX7 was getting cheaper (I had one I used as MIDI controller mainly, I didn’t know better lol) as it was getting out of the production, TX81z was a step up - although it is “only” 4 OP, it offered waveforms other than the sine, making even simplest algos more versatile. I am talking about 90s electronic music. Of course DX7 was used and is still used, but again, I would associate industrial FM bass with TX first.
HAHAHA you know what, I thought about the exact same thing while editing. But the fact is that it IS easier than the actual hardware to program. However compared to FM8 or Arturias, it is a nightmare 😂
@@Tonepusher Sadly, i wasn't able to tinker with DX7 hardware unit. I can only imagine the pain :) I guess that's why Trent destroyed so many of them during live shows.
Well, that's a good question. I only have one chance to make that pack. Remaking NIN sounds is like saying ''I'll remake the mona lisa'' you know? haha I always take my time to make stuff, but this one I'll take extra time haha
@@Tonepusher Lol I hope you caught my sarcasm but I would buy a NIN inspired pack for sure. And thanks for giving industrial some love, my favorite genre since I was a 10 years old.
@@Mr2it3881 haha damn I actually didn't. People asked me that question SO many times that I thought you were serious. 😂 Anyways, it's doable. But do I really want to do it? haha
@@Tonepusher Well it depends what era your going for. I think Pretty Hate Machine synths are possible but things get real juicy with The Downward Spiral. The lead synth in Terrible Lie and that throbbing bass synth in Reptile are 2 I would be after.
@@Mr2it3881 yeah PHM would be ''easy'' to remake, at least easier like you said hehe The problem with NIN is that it's often re-sampled and layered stuff. PHM would be doable for sure!
Yep. First Goth lost itself within pop (eg. The cure) and then EBM got lost into techno and industrial lost into metal. It was terrible at the time and that kind of music was never resurrected.
@@s.gharavi1614 ngl I did love the early ''dance'' industrial scene. But at some point it became a detune sawtooth mess lol I want my industrial back! haha
I love what you're trying to do...but unlike Front 242, you missed the target, closed the net, and didn't catch the man. Your bass is decent but struggles with the VST plague. VST's sound so crisp and just generally awful imo. I've been producing industrial professionally since 1994, and can tell you, if you want that Nitzer Ebb bass, you need a real analog or a Virtual Analog with d/a converters. Also, that guy saying the sound is layered, I can't say I believe. Using an AI voice to begin with is not a good sign. You can achieve the bass simply with an Ensoniq ESQ-1 which is the same synth that was heavily used by Skinny Puppy, Ministry, and My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult. The infamous bass from "Every Day Is Halloween" is an ESQ-1 preset. I get lots of folks want to "cheat" by using cheap or even free VST's but honestly, to anyone that professionally records, even most fans can point out a VST in a mix almost instantly. It's far too crisp sounding. While this bass sounds decent, in a blind test you could easily point out it's from a VST. The DX7 was used by a FEW industrial artists, but not many. Front 242 being the most infamous, especially on their Tyranny For You album. Nitzer Ebb used a Jupiter-8 by itself for the bass of Join in The Chant. This is pretty common knowledge really, as was most of the basses on the THAT TOTAL AGE album, they also heavily used a SH-101 in that era for a lot of their basslines. I have yet to find any evidence of them ever using a DX7 or any standard FM synth at all. My recommendation, is to get better at programming synths and understanding them. People who say "analog synths are too expensive" are looking at the wrong ones. I just sold a Pro-1 Behringer clone for $150. When your VSTs are costing the same, there's no excuse. You can get a Behringer CRAVE for $100 used no problem. Even get a TD-3 for $50-90 new if you catch a sale. The argument of "we need to use VSTs because synths are too expensive" are long gone. Go google synths now. Between Behringer pumping out tons of analogs for dirt cheap to Korg and other's doing the small synths, you really have no excuse to use VST synths unless you live in an airplane seat. VST effects are another story, but even personally, I don't use them either. Again, you can hear it clear as day. This is a great era for making electronic music as gear is at an all-time low in price. Would love to sit and chat on how to make these patches with actual affordable gear that doesn't sound like it came from a Gameboy.
You're 100% entitled to your opinion man. And also like I said and shown in the video, the info about the DX7+SH101 is coming straight from Nitzer Ebb's instagram page. (I verify my infos, that's why I show proofs in the videos.) There's no debate here tbh every synth has it's own texture/sound wether it's software or not, it's a matter of taste. It's not what you use it's how you use it. Also saying that ''pros'' are not using softwares I mean, you're trolling right?
lol that's your opinion man. I know what you mean though, but in the end if you use sampled waveforms and EQ properly, nobody will notice the difference.
@@TonepusherI picked up your serum banks months ago Cybertones Volume 2; Cybertones vol.1; INDUSTRIALIZER; Shredder1984. Hope to grab up more they're great!
This is probably my favorite technique to make 90s inspired industrial bass sounds. LOVE FM synthesis hehe
Your clips are such an inspiration for me as a bedroom industrial producer. You make really cool and authentic sound seem achievable without a metric ton of expensive gear.
Tbh thats the goal. I want to show that everyone can do it. I used to have TONS of gear. And after 20 years I realized that the less I had the more music I was making. It's much simpler. And in 2024 you can achieve ANY sound with 50-100$ softwares...Even free ones hehe
Make Cyberpunk music it's a slower industrial and its fun
Great tip on the layering of analog and FM. I didn’t know that’s how Nitzer Ebb did it. I’m really glad to have an industrial focused synth guy putting out great stuff. Keep it up.
happy to help !! :) NE did some classic bass sounds that needs more recognition! hehe
When I saw NE a few years ago, what I noticed was that the synth bass sound was the same, but that's the beauty of NE, like DAF, they're so rudimentary. They kicked ass on stage, and I hate to say, they blew 242 off the stage.
it isn't what they did. It's what a random youtuber said they did.
@@wildphilpresents You probably didn't watch the video. Because that's exactly what Bon Harris posted on his instagram page. I just replicated it with modern softwares.
Yes they did much more processing obviously, but the basics are there and that's why I did it. Having this said, thanks for commenting :)
Love seeing Dexed in there. It’s become one of my favorites especially for creating bass sounds and every time I see you’ve released a new video I know I get excited. I’m always inspired to try something different or to look at my soft synths a little different. Keep up the good work!
thanks to you man :) That's what's fun with music, we all have the same tools but use them differently hehe
Holy moly layering FM on top of the analog bass sound, never thought of that! Actually I've never thought about layering FM on top of anything 😅
haha time to layer fm everywhere
Great video. I love layering my OBX-8 with my DX7. It was a very popular technique used in the 80s.
One of my favorite FM editors is the Opsix. It has such a great workflow. Dexed is great too. It makes working on patches a lot more fun and faster.
Really enjoy your videos, keep them coming!
DX-100 or TX81Z are classics. Detroit techno loves them too.
100% ! fm ftw haha
Yoooo, that track at the end really nailed the early 90's vibe!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
heyy thanks man haha yeah I like it :) Might be part of an album...who knows haha 😜
I'll take the points - Plasticity! That was too easy ;)
haha what a GOOD bassline!
Who knows how long I would have spent pin-pointing which song it was. I "knew" it, but wasn't sure which song it was. I was going to start with Hard-Wired. So thank you for saving me the time wracking my brain!
@@jaywhy3178 happy to help!
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Great tutorial! Using hardware with their 2x VCOs and 1x digital OSC the Korg Prologue and Minilogue XD are a pleasure to create layered sounds like this.
those are GREAT sounding synths, especially for that price hehe
This was great man! So awesome to have an Industrial centered channel that really goes in depth into the techniques used to make this kind of stuff. There really isn't a lot on this topic so even me who considers what they do to be somewhere in the industrial music genre but not fully, super helpful and interesting. Awesome channel!!
hey np man!! I'm happy that it's helping and give some love to Industrial on YT hehe
I’ve been experimenting around adding distortion but adding just a hint of it. Just enough to bring some fizziness but not so much to lose clarity. I’ve loved the FM effect added to make it sound wider. Great song too.
thanks man! yeah it's easy to sound bad when using distortion hehe It always depend what sound you're going for but most of the time I use it lightly
Nice one! With each video it gets better and better! What incredible value for the scene! Thanks
excelente Amigo! continúa Así.
saludos desde Argentina!
Thanks man :)
Really cool tutorial well done.
+1 for the alesis drum 🥁
The bass sounds like a Genesis/mega drive synth a bit. Your tutos are gold 🥇
thanks !! haha yeah it does sound a bit like a Mega Drive bass. Love that band btw haha
I love the sound of those synth basses, good job 😎👌
thanks! hehe
Good stuff. This premise of combining digital/analog tones goes way beyond bass sound!
oh yeah of course!! I mean FM is often overlooked because of its complexity. But when you find the right mix between both, it sounds SO good. FM sounds always reminds me of Front 242 hehe
Very well done! Nice groove and mix at the end. You nailed the sound and the laid back feel. Thanks for keeping the genre going.
hey thanks for commenting man :) Probably my fav type of beat to produce at the moment!
@@Tonepusher yes it’s obvious your passion for the genre. You can hear that laid back beat in many Chemlab, 16volt, and other early 90s industrial. I am sure it was pioneered by earlier group. In my opinion that’s one of the best characteristics of industrial. The synth bass and the drum groove !
@@SoundProtocols oh yeah 100%, industrial is very drum focused. At least that's how I start my tracks 90% of the time. Drum first then bass, once you got that the rest is just icing on the cake haha
Always informative, always inspiring! Thanks Tonepusher
heyy I had fun making it :) np man, thanks for commenting 🤘🤘
Sounded fantastic! Real 90s vibe
haha! thanks man :) 90s ftw !
You just gave me an idea for my Roland Fantom. Thanks!
haha nice! I'm happy it could spark some inspiration :)
sweet, i know that FLA. Used a S1000 but the point to get that punch is because when you sample a Minimoog (your holding the power of the bass since analog phases as it moves) and also same with Pro 1 and by the time you layer those through a S1000 you get pure Caustic Grip ripping bass.
haha exactly! but sometimes it's cool too to have that ''analog imperfections''. That's why layering is the best!
@@Tonepusher yes there definitely more movement like that and as you did the dx bass will keep the thump !
VCV Rack and your midi keyboard in - play around and create your own synths. Hard as hell yes, but bad ass once you understand the flow.
VCV rack is fun. I use Boss DD-3's to modulate various things in it
Yeah looks like a lot of fun. Does it sounds good?
@@Tonepusher IF you can Learn, and you know how modular synths work, yes. They have libraries, forums, etc. it’s complicated but can’t beat it being free.
@@thenext9537 yeah I know pretty well modular synths, always fun to learn new stuff too :)
FLA - PLASTICITY!!!
Literally one of my go to industrial bass sounds as a reference.
Sounds awesome!!! I really need to get Serum but I've got Dexxed and a Behringer Pro 1 so I'll see what I can come up with, being a synth noob.
Really love your videos man, been searching for at least 2 years for your sort of content and nobody offers it, you've got the real potential to be "the guy" when it comes to industrial sounds and production.
Would love to see some videos for noobs like myself, maybe mixing tips for the genre and beginner "how to" sounds. People would eat that up, as a teenager I would've been absolutely obsessed!
Anyway, great video!
thanks man :) yeah well I've been doing this for 20+ years so I know exactly what you mean haha I wish I had that type of videos when I started :) Happy to share my ''tricks''! 🤘
@Tonepusher love it mate, gonna have to get Serum for some of your preset packs
@@Ullish1989 thanks for the support :) hope it'll spark inspiration! :)
@Tonepusher definitely has. Playing with my new Behringer Pro 1 today... still no idea how to get my head around Dexxed though
I love that slightly downtuned sawtooth bass sound. It's so badass!
yeah it's a classic haha thanks man
Plasticity! One of my faves by FLA. I never tried layering my DX7 with an analogue. Excited to try it with my ARP2600!
Such a classic haha love the energy of that track hehe! Dude layering the arp2600 with a DX7 must be epic haha You should definitely sample them into your DAW!
Fun fact:
The album "Caustic Grip" by Front Line Assembly (where "Resist" is from) uses FM surprisingly little, it's mostly sampled Minimoog and Pro-One sounds on an Akai, sequenced on an Atari ST (I think).
"Gashed Senses and Crossfire" was the most prominent use of FM synthesis from FLA, every track is oooooozing with it.
yeah you're 100% right, like I said in the video LOTS of them were using the pro-one sampled into the AKAI. I heard Rhys in a podcast saying that almost the entire album (caustic grip) was processed through an Akai S900 I think.
But on ''Resist'' you can clearly hear the FM layer too. I COULD be wrong of course, I'm human! haha
@@Tonepusher yeah I think there's a definite thin layer in there, it's a crazy dense mix, Greg Reely deserves mad credit for being able to get the thing sounding so incredible, I would have been melting down trying to make a mix like that sound punchy and clear haha
TAL products are out of the world, so brilliant and accurate ❤❤
100% I love their products, ngl I think it's top 5 softwares for me!
@@Tonepusher yes
Thanks Tonepusher. I'd love to see you do a video on how to make the bass from "Godhead" by Nitzer Ebb. I'd also love to see one on the bass for "Moldavia" from Front 242. That bending effect about a minute in. Love your videos.
hey! yeah man that Godhead bass is so good hehe Could be cool to remake it! Also the Moldavia one sound like FM to me too. Never know though, I could be wrong hehe.
Elektron keys is the most epic synth it’s awesome to see new one coming out
Never tried it! I hear Elektron products are awesome though
Great Video, keep these up :)
thanks man, for sure I will 🤘
Amazing work! So good! 👍
thank youu :) 🙏
Thx for the tips mate.
hey thanks for commenting :) np 🤘
Great vid about this!
thanks man!
Very cool video! Thank you
hey np! ;)
6:10 here's how to say "like and subscribe" without saying it. Bass sound is great! Has grit, no dirt. So nineteesh. Btw Great vid at the end. Peace!
haha!! thank you! I love making beats like that :)
Nice! Loving this bass!
thanks! :)
You should post your videos a half an hour after Bad Gear on Fridays ... Make it a power hour!!!
Yeah usually I post on Fridays, but I didn't post for like 2+ weeks so I wanted to post asap haha But you're 100% right. That's a good idea :)
Great stuff! Thank you!!
heyy np !! thanks to you for watching :)
superb tips thx u so much
Awesome! What’s modulating the FM? The Velo?
Yes ! And then you can write your ''riff'' using the velocity/pen tool.
Nice... Thank you
np man :) thanks to you!
FLA always has the best bass lines!
that is a fact!
The Kobol expander is great for those ebm basses
This is not channel, but a home ; )
You forgot the name #1 band and more sophisticated Industrial Music "Front 242"
I would never forget F242!! haha
That mix at the end is sick af, especially the drum line with the blip noise sample when it's isolated at the start. Got any tips for drum lines like that?
Thanks man!! well I guess the first tip I'd have to sound more ''retro industrial'' would be to stay away from 4x4 beats as much as possible. Use claps/blip sounds and also retro toms. I guess I should make a video on that haha
@@Tonepusher Ohhhhh that makes a lot of sense, I usually default to 4x4. Very insightful, thanks!
@@GobulTheGobbler np man :)
Tonepusher, It's Nitzer Ebb...Neet-zer Ebb. 🤪 Otherwise, You are amazing! 👍
haha I know man! my French speaking brain playing tricks on me. 😅 🧠🧠
I've got Dexxed and the original presets... can you recommend a starting point? Anything without physical nobs is very confusing for my brain... afterall I'm just a basic guitarist used to playing with pedals
glad you made this channel. I was threatening to do the same thing. Now I dont have to. :)
Do it! haha The more the merrier! :D 🤘 I have no youtuber friends to feat with 😟 hahaha
@@Tonepusher haha maybe I will!
0:13 Hey man, I NEED to hear the whole song!
It’s on the double live album from FLA ;)
@@ChromosomeSyndicate Well, I dont know if I say thanks to you, or I punch your face... Just kidding. What is "FLA"?
@@ChromosomeSyndicate By the way, I just heard your song called "Systems", that thing is a real punch in the face :D.
Hey! it's one of my song that I'm working on :) I'll announce it here when it's done 🤘🏻
Also, I can't use copyrighted music on TH-cam. That's why I mostly use live videos.
@@lucascabral6976 Looool FLA is Front Line Assembly about my old song Systems thanks a lot . Check out the other ones or see us live on Bim festival soon in Belgium together with Clock DVA ,Pankow,Suicide Commando etc etc . Greetings 🖖
"weapon of choice was dx7" wrong ! While I am sure DX7 was used, that growling bass is TX81z
Well DX7 was WAY more popular
@@Tonepusher not really. TX rack was cheaper and in every home studio in the early nineties. Not to say DX7 wasn’t the thing to have, just that bunch of smaller studios would opt for TX because of rack format, and the price. Plus, many patches from DX can be replicated on TX, although it’s a 4 operator FM vs 6 on DX7. I mean, chuck lately bass into distortion, Rhys Fulber approves :) Yes, DX7 was getting cheaper (I had one I used as MIDI controller mainly, I didn’t know better lol) as it was getting out of the production, TX81z was a step up - although it is “only” 4 OP, it offered waveforms other than the sine, making even simplest algos more versatile. I am talking about 90s electronic music. Of course DX7 was used and is still used, but again, I would associate industrial FM bass with TX first.
NITZER BASS
Tha best!
I like the joke about Dexed being eeasy to program :)
HAHAHA you know what, I thought about the exact same thing while editing. But the fact is that it IS easier than the actual hardware to program. However compared to FM8 or Arturias, it is a nightmare 😂
@@Tonepusher Sadly, i wasn't able to tinker with DX7 hardware unit. I can only imagine the pain :) I guess that's why Trent destroyed so many of them during live shows.
@@rskityaev loll yeah I hope he didnt destroy every synth he thought sounded bad 🤣
Круто ! Cool !
When is the NIN inspired sound pack coming?
Well, that's a good question. I only have one chance to make that pack. Remaking NIN sounds is like saying ''I'll remake the mona lisa'' you know? haha
I always take my time to make stuff, but this one I'll take extra time haha
@@Tonepusher Lol I hope you caught my sarcasm but I would buy a NIN inspired pack for sure. And thanks for giving industrial some love, my favorite genre since I was a 10 years old.
@@Mr2it3881 haha damn I actually didn't. People asked me that question SO many times that I thought you were serious. 😂
Anyways, it's doable. But do I really want to do it? haha
@@Tonepusher Well it depends what era your going for. I think Pretty Hate Machine synths are possible but things get real juicy with The Downward Spiral. The lead synth in Terrible Lie and that throbbing bass synth in Reptile are 2 I would be after.
@@Mr2it3881 yeah PHM would be ''easy'' to remake, at least easier like you said hehe The problem with NIN is that it's often re-sampled and layered stuff. PHM would be doable for sure!
That sound was so good. Such a shame during the 2000s it all got taken over by trance.
Yep. First Goth lost itself within pop (eg. The cure) and then EBM got lost into techno and industrial lost into metal. It was terrible at the time and that kind of music was never resurrected.
@@s.gharavi1614 ngl I did love the early ''dance'' industrial scene. But at some point it became a detune sawtooth mess lol I want my industrial back! haha
Great results. Also Plasticity.
haha exactly! thanks :))
Warum ist da der Wendler aufm Thumbnail?
Who's Wendler?
I go to America!!!
your second mic was off in the settings
My second mic? 🤔
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Great, would be great if u could deliver all the presents I purchased too. Youre not responding to emails.
huh? I always do 🤔what's your email? My mail box is empty right now. Can you write to:
tonepusherofficial@gmail.com
thanks
Still think viper is the best nothing destroys the mighty Virus Ti sound
Plasticity :D
such a claaaassic haha gotta listen to it right now! :)
This is 80's synth bass, not 90's.
If that makes you happy, let's say it's 80s 🤷🏻♂️ lol
I love what you're trying to do...but unlike Front 242, you missed the target, closed the net, and didn't catch the man. Your bass is decent but struggles with the VST plague. VST's sound so crisp and just generally awful imo. I've been producing industrial professionally since 1994, and can tell you, if you want that Nitzer Ebb bass, you need a real analog or a Virtual Analog with d/a converters. Also, that guy saying the sound is layered, I can't say I believe. Using an AI voice to begin with is not a good sign. You can achieve the bass simply with an Ensoniq ESQ-1 which is the same synth that was heavily used by Skinny Puppy, Ministry, and My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult. The infamous bass from "Every Day Is Halloween" is an ESQ-1 preset.
I get lots of folks want to "cheat" by using cheap or even free VST's but honestly, to anyone that professionally records, even most fans can point out a VST in a mix almost instantly. It's far too crisp sounding. While this bass sounds decent, in a blind test you could easily point out it's from a VST.
The DX7 was used by a FEW industrial artists, but not many. Front 242 being the most infamous, especially on their Tyranny For You album. Nitzer Ebb used a Jupiter-8 by itself for the bass of Join in The Chant. This is pretty common knowledge really, as was most of the basses on the THAT TOTAL AGE album, they also heavily used a SH-101 in that era for a lot of their basslines. I have yet to find any evidence of them ever using a DX7 or any standard FM synth at all.
My recommendation, is to get better at programming synths and understanding them. People who say "analog synths are too expensive" are looking at the wrong ones. I just sold a Pro-1 Behringer clone for $150. When your VSTs are costing the same, there's no excuse. You can get a Behringer CRAVE for $100 used no problem. Even get a TD-3 for $50-90 new if you catch a sale. The argument of "we need to use VSTs because synths are too expensive" are long gone. Go google synths now. Between Behringer pumping out tons of analogs for dirt cheap to Korg and other's doing the small synths, you really have no excuse to use VST synths unless you live in an airplane seat. VST effects are another story, but even personally, I don't use them either. Again, you can hear it clear as day.
This is a great era for making electronic music as gear is at an all-time low in price. Would love to sit and chat on how to make these patches with actual affordable gear that doesn't sound like it came from a Gameboy.
You're 100% entitled to your opinion man. And also like I said and shown in the video, the info about the DX7+SH101 is coming straight from Nitzer Ebb's instagram page. (I verify my infos, that's why I show proofs in the videos.)
There's no debate here tbh every synth has it's own texture/sound wether it's software or not, it's a matter of taste. It's not what you use it's how you use it.
Also saying that ''pros'' are not using softwares I mean, you're trolling right?
80's industrial bass, not nineties. Lol.
Well, if that's the sound of the 80s for you. Whatever makes you happy lol
The key is to pooch your lips out like Brent Reznor
LOL makes everything sound better
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When the drums drop out following the intro gets me every time. Love it.
@@MykeLewisMusic haha me too!! the energy of that song is contagious hehe
It just doesn´t sound right with Serum. The Digital Filters, the DCOs ...don´t get me wrong bro but that´s not 90s, that´s just Serum.
lol that's your opinion man. I know what you mean though, but in the end if you use sampled waveforms and EQ properly, nobody will notice the difference.
@@Tonepusher I will
Tired of NIN so many better bands.
Another awesome video thank you 👍
hey thanks man :)
@@TonepusherI picked up your serum banks months ago Cybertones Volume 2; Cybertones vol.1; INDUSTRIALIZER; Shredder1984. Hope to grab up more they're great!