I always find it funny how pelipper under rain is like a force of nature, destroying everything in it’s path, meanwhile without rain it becomes a funny goofy little birb
"Huh, weird. Its been about 20 minutes, usually his videos are wrapping up by now." *Checks run time of video* "OH! No wonder this came out later than usual." XD
Let's be real here, in just about any other generation Chesnaught would've gone down as a fan favorite but instead it just has to live in Greninja's shadow
Even as a chesnaught fan I feel like people just don't really like this line in general even disregarding comparisons to the other starters. Also I'm like 90% convinced that a huge chunk of people that love greninja at least partially like it because the anime essentially held them at gunpoint to like greninja, so I'm not sure being in the same gen really did a whole lot against it
@InsertFunnyThingHere I'd argue the greninja popularity came before the anime, I think when Nintendo realized how much of a hit Greninja was they cranked its role in the anime up to a 10
@@paulcampbell8324 i agree to an extent. I feel like they realized early that greninja was going to be the most liked, and that it fit Ash and the type of anime they were going for in gen 6, so they gave it a major role, and then a big chunk of people started liking or liked greninja way more than they would have otherwise because of it. But like yeah greninja was almost definitely going to be the most well liked gen 6 starter regardless.
Imagine a VGC based Pokemon region where the starters are Urshifu, Incineroar, and Fluttermane and all of the Pokemon in the region were VGC Pokemon Edit: @2maka5u suggested Amoongus instead of Fluttermane to still have the water fire grass type trio so we’ll go with that instead Edit: Some people mentioned Rilaboom instead of Amoongus so that could work too 👍
The amount of multipliers on the make it rain against the ninetails in match 4 STAB Tera: x2 Quad effective: x4 (x8) Specs: x1.5 (x12) Minus 3: x0.4 (x4.8) Through Veil: x0.5 (x2.4) Spread reduction: x0.75 (x1.8) The amount of math you would have to do to figure this out on the fly is nuts.
@@TheWizardMusDo they still make Mike and Ikes? I feel like I havent seen them since like the mid 00s. I hope they do because Mike and Ikes were great. Edit: A quick google found that they aren't available in Canada atm due to global supply chain issues, I was probably exaggerating by guessing mid 2000s lol
The Virgin “I get another chance! I know his gameplan now, so I can squeak out a win!” Vs The Chad “damn I was about to get pummeled. Ggs thats good enough for me”
Honestly my only complaint about this video is one of my many complaints about this game in general and that it needs to be sped up as there s just SO MUCH down time between moves. Like it is so ridiculous how slow they made this game IDK how anyone plays it for any length of time. Sure Sword and Shield had its issues but atleast with how long turns took there was some flash and pizzazz with the animations. Hopefully the next game either has better animations, sped up game play, or a skip animations option.
I think that’s fine in some cases, but what kills it here is the lack of commentary in many of the games. Wolfey for example can make a 2 hour run interesting by talking through his thoughts and lines during the down time, which both teaches new players the ins and outs of the game, while also filling up dead space, instead of just dead silence as he switches in Palafin and puts on screen that he’s reading a switch.
@@Endershock1678 Thats fair the pacing would be better if either he removed the down time OR pulled a wolfey and broke down his thought process between move selections. I understand why he wasnt doing it during the match though.
I assume.Bloodmoon will be a true split evolution in the future, available in the overworld and/or unlimited quantity. It isn't a legendary nor paradox, but hyper min/maxed. I agree with you that it's power level is insane for reg H but it's not tagged as special. It's like a Slaking but without the ridiculious ability nerfing it.
this isnt smogon, pokemon arent banned individually. instead the meta revolves around format that decide by groups of pokemon not just one specific problomatic pokemon. if you would also ban all dlc pokemon that would litterally make it regulation A
@@borzafror no, this regulation was designed by game freak and explicitly banned legendaries, they're saying blood Moon should have been considered one bc in almost every way it is one. The only differences are that its BST is a bit low at 555 (but kubfu, cosmog, and cosmoem are also banned), and the more important one in that it shares its dex number with regular ursaluna
That wouldn’t really make sense though. If they banned every legendary, and then Blood Moon, people would be mad because they banned every legendary, and then this one random pokemon that is good, while Incineroar and Rillaboom are legal.
@@Endershock1678 Sure, but Blood Moon is only obtained in an ingame-event akin to a legendary encounter. You cannot breed it, you get the three guaranteed max IVs, the only reason it isn't banned is that it shares a National Pokédex number with regular Ursaluna and counts as a variant.
So can I ask why Tera Fire Chesnaught over Steel? Steel flips all your weaknesses besides Fire, still resists Steel/Fairy, but also removes your water weakness & are immune to Clear Smog. Tera Steel makes you weak to Fire but you have Rain to undo the weakness, compared to Tera Fire which makes u due to water… I know u didn’t bring Chesnaught vs Dozo but was just curious
The other comments made me realize this is a 2 HR VIDEO AND I AM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS. As someone else said, the WolfeyVGC arc is here and I’m so for it
My Chesnaught has pulled through in many of its battles I brought it for. Super underrated Pokémon in my opinion, it can tank quite a few hits with the right Special Defense investment and naturally good Defense. Decent Attack as well.
Love the changes between the stream layout and just the battle scene for keeping thing visually interesting throughout! Do you record the game capture separately and make these changes in editing, or are those moments just zooming in on the stream layout? Or are you switching the streamed scene during the battles?
You should try running Altaria! Definitely not the best pokemon of all time, but it has pretty good supporting moves, workable bulk, and Cloud Nine is just a blank check for weather teams. I’ve been having a lot of fun with it on Showdown
i like the idea of this team but i don't think grass/fighting is a good coverage combo for your main sweeper in this format, and having a big flying weakness in the team is an issue when pelliper is so common, it looked like in a lot of matches you were struggling to eat hits and having to brute force wins with make it rain. also i think the bulletproof tech is cool but if you don't easily threaten gholdengo it's not super useful, it might be worth running shadow claw on your chesnaught or switching to kommo-o with flamethrower, i'm not 100% sure what the solution is but there's definitely some potential here
I loved chesnaught when it was first introduced. I remember walling a friend’s specs Gengar that had sludge bomb, shadow ball, focus blast and thunderbolt
They were thinking of going for the spiky shield, because if they do and the Rillaboom goes for the grassy glide, then rilla takes chip, tatsu puts it lower and also slower with icy wind and then next turn you still have both threats and it's easier for tatsu to clean up with grassy terrain and tailwind gone, but if they go for the sludge bomb and rilla slides then he just loses as he didn't get the chip and it's just tatsu, the opponent was probably thinking about this decision when they timed out and that's why the auto selected move ended up being meteorbeam
@Julian-rc3iz Despite being such a coin toss the opponent should have expected a spiky shield read and should have went for sludge bomb without overthinking too much
Is there a chance that terra steel chestnaught would have been better than terra fire? His only reasoning for terra fire was to resist make it rain, and it has the added benefit of resisting fairy, but terra does the same thing but gives you so many more resistances, mainly removing your 4x weakness to flying, changing it to a resistance where fire is only neutral.
I got to build a team with two of some of my favorite Pokémon that got omega power crept from the start of the game to reg G. And I’ve experimented with stuff you couldn’t do with high power levels. Reg H is so fun! Also I really struggle with playing a team that is centered around one restricted. 😵💫
There’s A LOT of dead air in this vid. I wouldn’t mind seeing more tournament summary vids in the future. But I’d recommend editing out footage where nothing is happening mid-matches
@Moxieboosted In Game 3: why not just use Hurricane instead of weather ball? It’s 10 BP more powerful and 100% accurate in the rain? Also, if Tatsu is probably going to icy wind to lower speed, why not attack twice with Pelliper instead of tailwind? Just trying to learn better lines for better win conditions
Im glad to see my second favorite grass type starter get some love n attention people always hating on chessy altho I've never had one thought wit chesnaught line won't be any good amazing ability bullet proof and overgrow even could be useful
1:20:53 seals when I throw fish at them
Hey there stranger! This comment gave me a good chuckle! You ma’am, win the internet 😂😂
No but fr that was funny
@@Penguinman2.0 I’m actually a woman
@@pastel_pink fixed
@@Penguinman2.0 thanks gamer
I always find it funny how pelipper under rain is like a force of nature, destroying everything in it’s path, meanwhile without rain it becomes a funny goofy little birb
It's the fifth unofficial member of the forces of nature, their enabler (?)
@@troykv96**THEIR CREATOR**
It was such a useless birb when it first came out 20+ years ago and now it’s a menace lmao
"Huh, weird. Its been about 20 minutes, usually his videos are wrapping up by now."
*Checks run time of video*
"OH! No wonder this came out later than usual." XD
Let's be real here, in just about any other generation Chesnaught would've gone down as a fan favorite but instead it just has to live in Greninja's shadow
It's cool but I feel that it kinda has a baby face. It doesn't give me the feeling of a final Evo. Kinda like it got stuck between mid and final.
Even as a chesnaught fan I feel like people just don't really like this line in general even disregarding comparisons to the other starters.
Also I'm like 90% convinced that a huge chunk of people that love greninja at least partially like it because the anime essentially held them at gunpoint to like greninja, so I'm not sure being in the same gen really did a whole lot against it
@InsertFunnyThingHere I'd argue the greninja popularity came before the anime, I think when Nintendo realized how much of a hit Greninja was they cranked its role in the anime up to a 10
@@paulcampbell8324 i agree to an extent. I feel like they realized early that greninja was going to be the most liked, and that it fit Ash and the type of anime they were going for in gen 6, so they gave it a major role, and then a big chunk of people started liking or liked greninja way more than they would have otherwise because of it.
But like yeah greninja was almost definitely going to be the most well liked gen 6 starter regardless.
delphox is actually the least popular of the 3
Time to watch this movie. Probably winning an Oscar just by the thumbnail alone
I just watch them as I do the copious amount of homework that I've been putting off.
Moxie is on his wolfy era
Marcos starting his Wolfey 2 hour long video arc and I'm all for it
Rilla/Chess being nicknamed “Joey Valence and Brae” goes way hard.
That shits tough
Call that combo Punk Tactics
Imagine a VGC based Pokemon region where the starters are Urshifu, Incineroar, and Fluttermane and all of the Pokemon in the region were VGC Pokemon
Edit: @2maka5u suggested Amoongus instead of Fluttermane to still have the water fire grass type trio so we’ll go with that instead
Edit: Some people mentioned Rilaboom instead of Amoongus so that could work too 👍
Why not Amoongus so it’s still fire water grass?
Sounds like Pokemon XD with extra steps
@@2maka5u those were just the first most used VGC pokemon that popped up in my head lol. That would make more sense though
just use rillaboom
since its the most common core
Rillaboom instead of fluttermane, why did you pick fluttermane in the first place?
The amount of multipliers on the make it rain against the ninetails in match 4
STAB Tera: x2
Quad effective: x4 (x8)
Specs: x1.5 (x12)
Minus 3: x0.4 (x4.8)
Through Veil: x0.5 (x2.4)
Spread reduction: x0.75 (x1.8)
The amount of math you would have to do to figure this out on the fly is nuts.
Man, Specs Gholdengo is one hell of a mon, all that math for a one-hit K.O.
@@sylvicx3437
I mean it’s a specs Steel move against Alolan Ninetales. I would just assume it OHKOs regardless of multiplier.
@@Endershock1678 That's very true, but still, it impresses me how many multiplies you can have in-game
breaking out a Coke Zero and a bag of beef jerky for this one
I'm breaking out Mike and Ikes and energy drinks
@@TheWizardMusDo they still make Mike and Ikes? I feel like I havent seen them since like the mid 00s. I hope they do because Mike and Ikes were great.
Edit: A quick google found that they aren't available in Canada atm due to global supply chain issues, I was probably exaggerating by guessing mid 2000s lol
@@ziggle5000yea mike and ikes are in pretty much every store around here especially gas stations
Telling me the amount of times I need to tap to skip a sponsor may lose you a sponsorship, but has earned my sub. Probably not a fair trade 😂
1:41 I can’t believe that they banned every Pokemon from competitive play. TPCI has ruined VGC 😢
the trainers will enter the ring themselves.
Pokémon gets beaten to a pulp and passes out. Moxieboosted: “that’s pretty adorable.”
Your round 2 opponent is a good person.
May we all learn to be as kind as Moxies round 2 opponent
The Virgin “I get another chance! I know his gameplan now, so I can squeak out a win!”
Vs
The Chad “damn I was about to get pummeled. Ggs thats good enough for me”
18:50 "Check this out" he says quietly, right before scoring the fattest crit of all time
CHESNAUGHT THE GOAT! Such a criminally underrated Pokémon purely because his teenage years were a rough time
Honestly my only complaint about this video is one of my many complaints about this game in general and that it needs to be sped up as there s just SO MUCH down time between moves. Like it is so ridiculous how slow they made this game IDK how anyone plays it for any length of time.
Sure Sword and Shield had its issues but atleast with how long turns took there was some flash and pizzazz with the animations. Hopefully the next game either has better animations, sped up game play, or a skip animations option.
I think that’s fine in some cases, but what kills it here is the lack of commentary in many of the games. Wolfey for example can make a 2 hour run interesting by talking through his thoughts and lines during the down time, which both teaches new players the ins and outs of the game, while also filling up dead space, instead of just dead silence as he switches in Palafin and puts on screen that he’s reading a switch.
@@Endershock1678 Thats fair the pacing would be better if either he removed the down time OR pulled a wolfey and broke down his thought process between move selections. I understand why he wasnt doing it during the match though.
I still think they should've gone the whole way and banned Bloodmoon as well.
I assume.Bloodmoon will be a true split evolution in the future, available in the overworld and/or unlimited quantity.
It isn't a legendary nor paradox, but hyper min/maxed. I agree with you that it's power level is insane for reg H but it's not tagged as special. It's like a Slaking but without the ridiculious ability nerfing it.
this isnt smogon, pokemon arent banned individually. instead the meta revolves around format that decide by groups of pokemon not just one specific problomatic pokemon. if you would also ban all dlc pokemon that would litterally make it regulation A
@@borzafror no, this regulation was designed by game freak and explicitly banned legendaries, they're saying blood Moon should have been considered one bc in almost every way it is one. The only differences are that its BST is a bit low at 555 (but kubfu, cosmog, and cosmoem are also banned), and the more important one in that it shares its dex number with regular ursaluna
That wouldn’t really make sense though. If they banned every legendary, and then Blood Moon, people would be mad because they banned every legendary, and then this one random pokemon that is good, while Incineroar and Rillaboom are legal.
@@Endershock1678 Sure, but Blood Moon is only obtained in an ingame-event akin to a legendary encounter. You cannot breed it, you get the three guaranteed max IVs, the only reason it isn't banned is that it shares a National Pokédex number with regular Ursaluna and counts as a variant.
54:16 Bro seeing the smallest incin next to the biggest Hydreigon was so funny and caught me so of guard 😆
Good lord how small was that litten then?
Moxie is so good at VGC and TH-cam that he even optimized his ad read. 👌
Popcorn popped. Ice cold bev. Roll the film.
Holy shit, I played you on casual battles a few days ago. Cool to see you.
I love how moxie is the #1 advocate of palafin sucks and yet he uses it so good this tourney😂
1:48:49 Nasty Plot into Haze is some strategy I cannot comprehend.
i love top level play in my pokemon games
0:17 damn tough break Arcanine
I adore the Joey Valence and Brae nicknames. Been addicted to their music recently so its really cool to see them elsewhere.
Awesome names on the Rillaboom and Chesnaught
You hit them with that Punk Tactics
Chesnaught’s always been one of my favorites since Pokémon Y! Glad he’s found a good niche!
Imagine being a Grass type that gets walled by a Water type that doesn't use Ice moves. Wouldn't that be funny?
found my bedtime content
This is facts
Literally me rn
Chestnaut, my SON! Thank you, I still love my X/Y starter and am glad he's one of your favorites as well
It's very good seeing the Regulation revert back to only regular species, not a single Bara bear or severed head to do nightmareish damage
Moxie using Palafin over Gyarados? I must be dreaming
So can I ask why Tera Fire Chesnaught over Steel?
Steel flips all your weaknesses besides Fire, still resists Steel/Fairy, but also removes your water weakness & are immune to Clear Smog. Tera Steel makes you weak to Fire but you have Rain to undo the weakness, compared to Tera Fire which makes u due to water… I know u didn’t bring Chesnaught vs Dozo but was just curious
Man out here thinking of the game changers both inside and out of the game. That 20 sec timesave literally saved me thank you
At first i thought you were vibing to the music, but then i realized you're walking on a treadmill.
Really excited to see how the meta develops, there’s so much room for innovation.
The other comments made me realize this is a 2 HR VIDEO AND I AM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS.
As someone else said, the WolfeyVGC arc is here and I’m so for it
Wu-tang clan mentioned!!!! 🗣️ dolla dolla bills yaaaaalllll! 🔥
My Chesnaught has pulled through in many of its battles I brought it for. Super underrated Pokémon in my opinion, it can tank quite a few hits with the right Special Defense investment and naturally good Defense. Decent Attack as well.
100% on rotten tomatoes for this cinematic masterpiece
39:52 why did the fake out fail here?
Side fake out cause he conceded the match
The amount of times I have heard gholdengo's chuckle...
If Marcos is now doing 2+ hour long Wolfe Glick-esque tournament vids, we're all eating good
ahhhh. chesnaught was my man on gen 6 online battles. it was a bring 6 pick 3 format. Such good egg moves.
Love the changes between the stream layout and just the battle scene for keeping thing visually interesting throughout! Do you record the game capture separately and make these changes in editing, or are those moments just zooming in on the stream layout? Or are you switching the streamed scene during the battles?
14:20 bro is based
You should try running Altaria! Definitely not the best pokemon of all time, but it has pretty good supporting moves, workable bulk, and Cloud Nine is just a blank check for weather teams. I’ve been having a lot of fun with it on Showdown
Me: it's Meganium isnt it?
5 seconds later
Me:ohh....that one exists...right...
18:55 I straight up shouted what then saw it crit I was so confused at first because he said watch this hahahaha
Chesnaught so underated
Gotta get some popcorn for this one
5:34 are you on a treadmill?
I’ve been having so much fun with Chesnaught lately for Reg F, it’s cool to see someone else see it’s true potential!
i like the idea of this team but i don't think grass/fighting is a good coverage combo for your main sweeper in this format, and having a big flying weakness in the team is an issue when pelliper is so common, it looked like in a lot of matches you were struggling to eat hits and having to brute force wins with make it rain. also i think the bulletproof tech is cool but if you don't easily threaten gholdengo it's not super useful, it might be worth running shadow claw on your chesnaught or switching to kommo-o with flamethrower, i'm not 100% sure what the solution is but there's definitely some potential here
I loved chesnaught when it was first introduced. I remember walling a friend’s specs Gengar that had sludge bomb, shadow ball, focus blast and thunderbolt
Chesnaught, my favorite starter
Love your vids you gave my favorite pokemon Falinks the spotlight in a vid thx!
That Dondozo in round 3 with Dive is very interesting. Is the goal of Dive to just avoid getting hit?
HUGE day for the Chesnaught fandom (there are dozens of us)
lapras fainting is adorable what da
That Glimmora at the end of the 3rd match was literally throwing,why it didn't immediately went for sludge bomb is beyond me
They were thinking of going for the spiky shield, because if they do and the Rillaboom goes for the grassy glide, then rilla takes chip, tatsu puts it lower and also slower with icy wind and then next turn you still have both threats and it's easier for tatsu to clean up with grassy terrain and tailwind gone, but if they go for the sludge bomb and rilla slides then he just loses as he didn't get the chip and it's just tatsu, the opponent was probably thinking about this decision when they timed out and that's why the auto selected move ended up being meteorbeam
@Julian-rc3iz Despite being such a coin toss the opponent should have expected a spiky shield read and should have went for sludge bomb without overthinking too much
@redxd7108 yeah true, but the stress of the match might have gotten to them, and maybe their someone who is not comfortable with making reads
@@Julian-rc3iz That's a fair point
Moxie boost having an affinity for underutilized defensive grass types is not lost on me
Dude in round 3 threw. Sludge bomb wouldve won right?
Timing the ad like the GOAT he is. 4:39
Yo, chestnut next to the Tenderizer sounds like a lot of fun. Idk how good it would be, but it would definitely be funny.
Let's gooo, longform style Moxieboosted video!
JOEY VALENCE AND BRAE SHOUT OUT‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Is there a chance that terra steel chestnaught would have been better than terra fire? His only reasoning for terra fire was to resist make it rain, and it has the added benefit of resisting fairy, but terra does the same thing but gives you so many more resistances, mainly removing your 4x weakness to flying, changing it to a resistance where fire is only neutral.
Moxie just casually dropping the next box office hit 🗿
I love these long vids ❤
I got to build a team with two of some of my favorite Pokémon that got omega power crept from the start of the game to reg G. And I’ve experimented with stuff you couldn’t do with high power levels. Reg H is so fun!
Also I really struggle with playing a team that is centered around one restricted. 😵💫
Moxie did you run max speed Rillaboom in this tournament
Your Rillaboom moved before your palafin in game 5
the lack of a backing track during the battles is quiet noticeable
Great watch. Really enjoyed that!
0/10 metagame, no legends means no Wo-Chien.
Good video moxie I have watched all of it
Ik right! It was great the whole way through
Cryogonal IS cool, I liked the part where it soloed the entire enemy team at 1:47:45 in this video
@@InsertFunnyThingHereI agree I was so hype at that point it was crazy
1:48 RILLABOOM... and chestnaught
Love the respec being put on Chesnaught's name
CHESTNAUGHT MY GOAT! I knew he was good, but there is almost no one that talks of him or knows starts for him
W to your opponent . My guy has integrity
Don't know what would happen first my cat gets up or the video ends
Joey valence makes great music, punk tactics is an S tier song
Wow who is that handsome guy at round 1
There’s A LOT of dead air in this vid. I wouldn’t mind seeing more tournament summary vids in the future. But I’d recommend editing out footage where nothing is happening mid-matches
why’d their pawmot’s fake out fail? does it have something to do with tera stellar?
big fan of this style of content!
Holy shit, chesnaught exists. I actually did forget that.
Would love to see more videos like this. Incredible
Clearly the baddest grass starter in this meta
Lmao the Charlos Gholdy is wild
Seeing that talonflame set makes me wish that the flying gem was still in the game
Tour content on main channel. What is this witchcraft?
Bro the glimmora Dondozo dude straight up flopped and threw on the last turn he could’ve just sludged instead of meteor beaming
@Moxieboosted
In Game 3: why not just use Hurricane instead of weather ball? It’s 10 BP more powerful and 100% accurate in the rain? Also, if Tatsu is probably going to icy wind to lower speed, why not attack twice with Pelliper instead of tailwind? Just trying to learn better lines for better win conditions
Im glad to see my second favorite grass type starter get some love n attention people always hating on chessy altho I've never had one thought wit chesnaught line won't be any good amazing ability bullet proof and overgrow even could be useful
I wish I knew how to find out about these tournaments. I'd love to join one at least once
When will Meganium get its chance to be the forgotten starter?
Stop remembering it
joey valence and brae the rillaboom and chesnaught is sick as hell
45:00 bruh weather ball is just in this situation better 😭😭
I never forgot about him. I love my grass tank