Nikocado Avocado: YouTube Rewarding Bad Behavior?
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- The cost of TH-cam success: Binge Eating, Mukbang, and Nikocado Avocado.
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I really appreciate the focus not on the individual doing it, but TH-cam rewarding it. Too often in our society we focus on condemning individuals instead of the systems that create those individuals.
This should be the top comment
He had the choice between a normal, healthy life and fame. He chose fame. If he wants to fix his life, he will have to give up the fame.
@@kylek.3689 Maybe not give up fame, but change directions.
The "enabling" TH-cam is responsible for is a fart compared to his own personal responsibility.
its not youtube rewarding it thou.............its the people watching youtube that enjoy this that is fueling it
@@16montana24kobe that does not matter, its the views that he sees and reinforced him. and yes, there are people who enjoy it and tell him"to just be himself, you are great"
dont be ignorant
I think your discussion has a lot of value, especially in regards TH-cam's allowance of this kind of influence. I do in fact think that Nik is on a dangerous path and one that is likely affecting others. Thanks for making a video on this, and I hope you don't have to endure any wrathful responses from Nik. I hope even more that something positive may be done here, as more and more focus is being brought to this issue.
It's also important to remember that most of Nik's on-camera persona is just that; an act. He's extremely intelligent and knows what pulls the views, and what gets him exposure from other creators. I do agree with Xisuma's concerns, and that he has fallen into this vicious cycle of destroying yourself for money, but he knows exactly what he is doing, whether its killing him or not.
It could also be feederism as some people into feederism apparently use denial as part of the kink and also public shaming for their overeating
@@cencent2189 That is a fair point, too.
The comments about people wanting him to stop is just a meme at this point. Its not bad behavior. Who cares what this guy eats. Hes fine, his personality lets him cry etc to entertain people, and xisumavoid has a bad take on this.
@@akiraotoishi5756 hmmm, let's agree to disagree...
I definitely agree that Nikocado probably has an ED. Years ago he used to be a vegan, and even admitted later on he was starving himself during that stage in his life. I think he’s a prime example of what can happen with disordered eating. He went from starving himself and having a very strict diet, then he got off it, and started gorging on food with no limit. It’s already a struggle to fix that behavior and recover, but during his entire time of being vegan and then not vegan, he was on youtube and documenting this. He realized that doing these crazy things like screaming, crying, having fits, and eating a lot of food did get him views so he’s not trying to stop anymore.
Oh my! There is a french novel called Mukbang by Fanie Demeule and it really seems to follow very similar steps.
This actually is common amoung addicts as well, not saying that is exactly what he suffers from per say, but often times when they replace one addiction, they pick up another in its place the goal is to get them to replace it with a healthy one if possible.
"Probably"
ED=erectile dysfunction
@@ozone325 in thia case they are shortening Eating Disorder.... pretty obvious
Its not even denial, he is self aware of what he is doing and plays into it. He is just too deep into greed. He knows what he is doing, but he also knows how much money it brings him. That's why beside mukbang he also talks a about lot of "dramas" and why he is "breaking up" with his boyfriend every two videos... Unfortunately, he also has OnlyFans where things are more... explicit with him and his boyfriend. Its all bout that "green".
I'm honestly surprised how people can watch it, how does anyone find any sort of entertainment from it?
@@JacobTheCroc Its pretty much like videos of watching something horrible happening. You knows its bad but you can't stop watching cuz human curiosity is keeping you in that circle. Some people just wanna see how far will this go.
What's ironic is that if he gets older, his health will be completely destroyed. So he'll dump all his "green" on medical bills trying to fix his ruined health. Health that was ruined making all that money in the first place.
@@ShootingDrive No money can save him at this point. He is too far gone.
@@ShootingDrive As the older generations said, Health is Wealth.
The problem is that TH-cam isn't really interested in what is uploaded. Basically the important is to maximize profit, and the recent dislike removal is basically a confirmation of this
@@lisathompson5500 Correlation is not causation.
The same can be said for numerous other videos and advertisements, as well as rewind. Don't be so hasty to make judgments that suit your world-views. In fact, any sane person would find your argument ridiculous, there are far more effective and direct approaches to convince people that their administration is good (ie, boosting the videos to a wider audience, doesn't seem like that's happening right now with their views in the low thousands) than passive control. Even if their actual intent was to promote governmental causes, it doesn't seem to be very effective right now.
I think that the most plausible explanation is actually the main reason why us users are concerned in the first place- the inability to judge between good and bad videos at the look of a number, causing users to spend more time on the platform ( they may need to watch multiple lousy videos with ads before they get to a good video, as an example). While @italyball fairly points out that this is due to their greed, I find it difficult to believe that removing dislikes would lead to a significant increase in corporate visibility and sales from their publicity videos, again due to the fact that TH-cam have much more efficient approaches. Although big companies typically have a bad track record for conspiring with other big companies and authorities, I genuinely don't think that the truth runs as deep as most people think it is. Just a simple case of getting people to click on more videos.
@@nutpeabutter9431 it’s just to censor the public. This is a way for big tech to silence anyone who thinks outside their agenda. You can’t even comment your opinions on TH-cam without them being deleted. It’s all part of the plan to segregate and divide. You tube is used to influence your decision.
@@grumpynomad3551 The fact that your comment is staying up is literally disproving your comment.
@@dermathze700 That comment isn't bad enough that it has been reported and/or deleted yet! I'm sure most of his comments that have been deleted(many likely NOT by TH-cam but by the content creator themselves(I don't think TH-cam cares enough unless they get REALLY derogatory) because they WEREN'T opinions. People seem to have lost sight of what an opinion is and think they have any thought and call it an opinion even if you can show evidence to the contrary, like arguing in 2021 that the earth REALLY is flat(I love hearing about all the pilots and other people who work for airlines that believe this)!
@@grumpynomad3551 That's just a combination of youtube deleting comments from a glitch, youtube deleting comments due to too many swear words and whatnot, and confirmation bias. I have posted all sorts of opinions, and I see no correlation between certain opinions being deleted. My comments almost never get deleted because I barely ever swear (due to them getting deleted) and because I don't often comment on channels that would actually delete comments
FINALLY, SOMONE ADRESSES THIS!! WELL DONE, I'm so glad it's finally talked about
Many youtubers addressed this and criticized Nicado. Nicado just responsed badly and continued doing his thing.
Meatcannon did a 2 videos on this and so have a few other TH-camrs.
But from what I have seen Avacado doesn't care, he wants views at any cost.
@@coolotph2132 It's an addiction, to a certain point. He may not realise it, but it it is terrible for him. He went on a break, but returned a day later... he is kinda at his breaking point, but he cant really help it. In a bit of a sticky situation, he is
Brah have you never seen Greg Doucette?
The right opinion did a really long and good video a while back.
There's an Italian youtuber called "Youtubo anche io" who used to do mukbangs as well, he ate a lot but not really in the same way as Nikocado Avocado (he often ate actual food, he wasn't using overweight as a market strategy, he just ate and showed the food he ate). He was generally loved by the community, but unfortunately he passed away some time ago due to heart attack or stroke (I don't remember which). Considering how much and how much worse Nikocado Avocado is eating, I'm afraid he'll also die soon.
@Snüp-Dio DubbleGee it's called empathy, man. People are allowed to worry about others that they do not know.
This concept can extend to traditional media as a whole. Fear, drama, and controversy sell.
I'm so worried that he's going to see this and react to it, he always trashes the character of anybody that dares talk about him. But if he messes with our X, he's going to have a whole lot to regret.
We will defend this pink axolotl till the end
@@rileygshep7606 lmao
TH-cam: Would you like to see a man spiral into a life of depression, greed and gluttony while eating for views and loads of money for your entertainment?
Millions of viewers: YES
I feel like he knows what he's doing and he's made the decision to sacrifice his health and even mental well-being for money and "fame"
Without knowing this Guys Channel i think this will BE very Dangerous For him. I myself do have an eating disorder. I was over 440 lbs on 6'4", i was on a rehab For 5 weeks and lost 10 % of my bodyweight. Even before rehab i was eating much healthier than this Guy. I Hope He will get smart Soon enough. The damage He will get By this eating disorder will get fatal at one Point.
Congratulations on the weight loss, that's an amazing achievement. All eating disorders are so hard to deal with, and not helped by society. Recognising your issues and starting to deal with them is a massive step that shouldn't be taken away from you. Super well done!!
@@Beckah11 thanks a Lot For Those Kind words 🙂
sending you good vibes! i’m happy you were able to receive treatment for your eating disorder, and hope you are doing well with recovery!
@@jacqueline373 hey, thank you For the good vibes 🙂 i'm Well at the Moment. The maintaining of my current weight/ loose More IS hardest. Its one Thing loosing 20 kg in 5 weeks in a Controlled Setting. Doing IT in normal Life is so much Harder. But i Walk a Lot. On some days, More than 10000 footsteps.
@@honeybear278 Losing weight (and especially in a healthy way) is a long, slow process. Don't be surprised if you've gained 1kg or something on some days, it doesn't mean you're failing at your diet, it just takes time for your body to work. As long as you're eating healthy and exercising properly (don't overexert yourself!) you will get there eventually.
Xisuma genetics does play a big role in metabolism like for me I used to eat double the amount a normal kid would and I have always been underweight (with and without exercising). But from what I'm hearing about him he is just in denial.
it really does but till an well defined line, what he ates is just way over anyone's metabolism
genetics does allow for some people to gain or not gain weight and the reason why having a super powerful metabolism is rare is because for a good portion of human history and still in many 3rd world countries it would have been a disadvantage being able to put away large quantities of food without gaining weight would be a terrible trait to posses and only now with such high caloric intake is such a trait deemed valuable but these people if put into a low caloric situation may find themselves in trouble.
@@nylex5206 It makes me sad when people with high metabolism, and are underweight, still think they need to lose weight.
Because of society not accounting for them and pushing in their face that "You need to lose weight and eat less no matter who you are."
Some look like skeletons and still think they need to lose weight, I'm in a severely underweight category myself, but at least I've learned to avoid weight loss programs and such, because that can be dangerous for someone like me.
@@nylex5206 did you not read my whole comment you can look at it, it has not been edited I said the exact same thing you did
Sad is the perfect word for this. He had so much potential to go on and do better things, and all that potential is going to waste. He needs help but refuses to get it and it's just sad to see him slowly killing himself. I really hope he gets the help he needs soon
I was eating an ice cream while watching this video. I never felt that bad about eating an ice scream
Enjoy it.
I've felt so bad in the past for indulging on dessert. My mom's got a rule of "everything in moderation". So long as you're in control of what your doing (unlike this case... it feels like there's a lot of issues going on in his case), you should be alright.
But hey, nothing wrong with eating right. Just don't go to the extreme end of obsessing and feeling guilty over it! (Speaking from experience-- never was a disorder, but it was def a slight issue)
@@taytaythehufflepuff8532 yeah no worries I do everything in moderation and I eat healthy. Never had a weight problem and probably never will
I wouldn't really call it gross fast food. I would call it massive amounts instead.
I have heard the word gross to be used in reference to quantity. It could be a British English thing. I know people in Canada who use it the same way.
It’s a gross gross
I'd call ot gross, looks like an easy recipe to heart attack
@@creativeswandering i wouldn't be surprised if that's the root of the word, "groß" in german means large.
Both. Both is good
First pewds then X.
It begins
“You seem to be enjoying yourself, too bad you don’t have much time left”
-someone in the comments of a video of him getting an apartment I think
That is horrifying to read ngl
Hey Xisuma, I really love these videos, but I just wanted to give some feedback: I find that the written form core concept popups are more distracting to me than they are helpful. It might be worth creating a community poll about keeping them or not. Anyways, I really appreciate the discussions you have and the self-awareness with which you do!
Editor here, have seen a few people with similar comments. Will experiment with alternatives, thank you for the feedback. :)
Ive seen so many videos on Nick, cant wait to see if Nick makes an hour long reaction video based on... let's see... an 8 minute clip
lol yeah waiting for him to pull up Xisuma's video like WHO IS THIS GUY HUH???? the same way he did with Charlie lol.
Everytime you make a video about something like this I’m always blown away with how nuanced and non aggressive they are, super impressive
Finally somebody that addresses actual harmful content on TH-cam.
There's plenty of other people addressing the issues with this guy.
I honestly just hope that Nicocado gets out of whatever he is going through
The fact he began as a vegan who then slowly but surely spiraled down into just... I dont even know what to call it at this point.
He just seems unhappy as a whole but he keeps doing it because of this positive feedback loop of youtube
A few things to add to this. He’s actively said he that had an eating disorder before starting mukbangs which if we believe him on this (he apparently says a lot of things with it most being false, or just there for the bit) could be why he’s eating like he does. He stated that the reason he was so thin as well as being a vegetarian was because of his eating disorder, and half claims that this is what he wanted all along so if that’s true then I guess more power to him living the life he wants, but it’s entirely possible that he doesn’t realize his eating disorder has basically flipped.
I don’t know how common it is for an eating disorder to flip like that, but if it were to happen it would probably be to someone who just got an insane amount of positive affirmation from doing the opposite of their disorder like with Avocado. His first mukbang video was insanely popular, and it’s never really stopped being popular for him. With the fact that it’s not uncommon that societal pressure can cause eating disorders him gaining perceived acceptance from it is probably what pushing him down this path. Now again this could all just be BS he’s spewing as he eats since that’s kind of what he does.
It got mentioned that he ended up crying in his video which is an incredibly common concurrence, and unlike the possible eating disorder I don’t feel like it’s genuine. The stuff he does on screen very much feels like a bit he puts on to gain views and viewer retention, and it feels like he’s playing the clown for a lack of a better description. Now it’s very much not healthy that the “authentic” version of himself he wants to show is that of an idiot uncontrollably crying and shouting while eating an insane amount of food each day, but I don’t feel like him breaking out into a fit of tears is all that concerning (as heartless as that sounds).
Now as someone who strongly believes in the mentality that being healthy is only good when you’re also happy, and that as a small rule of thumb being happy should come first I don’t necessarily find what Avocado’s doing (fast food mukbangs) as inherently wrong. I also feel pretty strongly that if anyone were to try to recreate what he does would find themselves face down in a toilet regretting it thoroughly, and would realize very quickly how this is not for them (or it is in which case again more power to them). That said though I do feel like the pace that he puts out these videos is very concerning, and the fact that his fan base is only wanting him do mukbangs to the point where they’re demanding it is probably a massive red flag that needs to be addressed.
you’re correct actually, people cycle between different eating disorder behaviors all of the time! it’s incredibly common for people struggling with a primarily restrictive eating disorder [i.e. anorexia] to eventually go on to develop binging habits [i.e. bulimia, anorexia b/p subtype, or binge eating disorder] especially the longer one struggles without receiving appropriate treatment [which is few and far between anyways]
i agree that his crying and drama isn’t sincere, but also agree that he likely has an eating disorder! combine that with the monetary and social pressure to continue doing what he’s doing, i fear it will be very difficult for him to improve…
"Flipping" from starving yourself to binge eating is actually pretty common. I'm recovering from an eating disorder, and I've had urges to binge on junk food, not to the extent that Niko does, though, because like you said, I'd get sick if I tried to eat that much at once. That's what makes it concerning- he definitely didn't go from starving to binging this much overnight. It's one thing to eat, say, an entire pizza, vs all of that stuff. He had to actively power through it and force himself to eat that much in order to build up a tolerance to it, probably because of the success of that initial mukbang video. He was how much it was bringing in, and greed took over.
@@EosDoesStuff yeah his intake definitely seems like it’s something he’s grown over time. In the video when the old and current Avocado get shown side by side that earlier pic I believe is from one of his first mukbangs, and it had a lot less food (if what’s on the screen was the only thing eaten), and that’s acting like he actually ate all of that as well. As someone who’s documented competitive eating and competitive challenge eating it’s totally believable that someone could increase their capacity through regular bing eating like what avocado does, and not even realize it to add to that.
Worth mentioning that an eating disorder isn't just "I eat too much" or "I eat too little" an eating disorder is when a person has an unhealthy relationship with food. Certain traits we commonly assosiate with an eating disorder really are just symptoms and there are many complex types of eating disorders. It's likely his disorder hasn't flipped but rather both extreams are symptoms of the same condition
@@Stettafire yeah. I know of things like Bulimia where it’s a hybrid of the two usually through a cycle of gorging and then purging (barfing) right afterwards. That said I do believe that this would be just a shift in his eating disorder than something like a hybrid since he hasn’t flipped back and that’s a large part of these hybrid eating disorders.
He’s acting, always. It’s always about new drama and stuff. It’s for the views, it’s fueled by his own greed.
Greed he can’t stop that has a real physical effect on him
Whether or not he's acting the point is more that he's physically damaging himself because youtube rewards him to.
Greed is a high problem in our country. I'd be willing to bet it's one of the biggest issues is at the root of most other problems.
Someones personality does equal greed? Every content creator does what they like. Their are so much wrong takes on the perception of his channel. This dude does this to entertain us, its not a big deal. He probably enjoys it. Most comments who are 'concerned' do it to be funny/troll him. Or theyre such as yourself that just discourage somebodies perfectly okay content
Narcissism... although the two aren't mutually exclusive.
I read some articles on him and actually when he was vegan he still had unhealthy eating habits, he seems to have several eating disorders. He had a time when he was vegan that he wouldn’t eat anything cooked to 118 f and was loosing hair and teeth. He said generally his mental and physical health was terrible then too. Now in many ways it’s worse since he needs a breathing tube and a scooter to get around. But I’m just pointing out “healthy” eating can become unhealthy when you develop an eating disorder around it.
Meatcanyon did a good video on this whole scenario from his perspective. Not the animation he did, but him commenting on why he did the animation. It gave good insight into another way of viewing the situation
Bro the animation was great too lol wtf
The animation was also the commentay
I just live Xisuma’s discussions on stuff, it just feels extremely honest and not dramatic, just your opinion which I love to hear
I know you probably won't see this, but I really appreciate you raising awareness about less talked about eating disorders like BED. Often when discussing EDs people just think about anorexia and bulimia, while other eating disorders like EDNOS, BED, ARFID, and pica barely get any attention, even though there is a significant amount of people struggling with them.
TRUE
Things are so bad that a minecraft youtuber has to talk about this
hey xisuma,he might do a whole drama thing like reacting to this while doing his insane persona(he usually does this about any video related to him),i think you already know this but just dont feed into it.
Oh no I REALLY don't want him to make an overinflated hyped reaction to this with his "NikoDramo Avocado" character
@@varunagrawal7036 he is pretty self aware, so he usually does this for drama regardless of the topic, if he thinks the video will perform he'll do anything (which is sad to say that)
Thank you for helping in giving some light into this.
i always steer away from videos about him because I hate the fueling of drama that youtube typically is but i knew if you uploaded something about it it would be a legitimate talk. thank you for bringing a discussion into place that isnt just putting a big name on a video to get views or talk bad about them
fasting is sort of like a tradition in islamic releigon it is part of our faith . we muslim stay hungry for a month that symbolizes our balance in diet and eating
Man I really hope Nickado comes to his senses and stops this before something bad happens other than that you put together this video really nicely it was very easy to understand and follow
He already broke a few ribs. I'm worried that he's too far gone.
Nick wasn’t healthy when he was skinny either, he was bulimic and lying by saying “i’m this skinny because i’m vegan”. He just went from one form of self harm to another
To speak to fasting, I wish I could fast. I naturally have an incredibly high metabolism but if I go without eating for more than like 10 hours I get shaky, I can’t concentrate, I get lethargic, I become extremely weak, my life just becomes a living hell. That’s especially true if I’ve had caffeine for the day. My girlfriend has it way worse. If she doesn’t eat like every 4 hours she can’t do anything.
The kind chad Xisuma next to Nikocado was a good thumbnail.
I read the title and think im halucinating
Not only does Beard Meets Food not do food challenges every day, but he has a very strict fasting regimen where he can go days without eating.
I think that saying "when you are putting on lots of weight, it's just you are eating more than you need to. It's that simple" is quite an over simplification that can cause eating disorders in the other direction if let go to ones head but yeah, when you are being rewarded for doing things that seem to make you really unhappy there is a problem, specifically with TH-cam.
Yeah, as simple and "logical" as it sounds, that phrase is pretty harmful and I've felt its consequences for years because it gave me an eating disorder that I'm still struggling with. Since I was 8 I started gaining weight nonstop in a very constant and even way, no matter what or how much I ate. I've made countless diets, used to count every single calory I ingested, starved myself and nothing stopped the weight gain. Years later I discovered that the cause was that I have PCOS. Only now, after years of treating my PCOS I finally started losing weight, without changing eating habits or anything, just by treating the cause of the weight gain. This "you only gain weight because you are eating more than you need" mindset almost killed me
It has to be ammended with: "You are probably..."
I have a really garbage metabolism and I can testify to your statement: if you eat decently healthy with a cheat meal once a week and with moderate excersise throughout that week, you can not only maintain your body weight, but you can lose it at a decent pace
Nikocado Avocado is actually a tragic individual, with how he's rewarded for essentially destroying his life
Now, not trying to shame anymore for discussing him and his behavior, stuff like that does need to be addressed and helped, but I feel like videos talking about him in themselves don't do much good. They kinda point people towards his channel, they're going to go there see things for themselves, maybe comment - just engaging with the content in general, which will only close the circle
Also, how do you help an individual like that? We never had an individual have harmful behaviors perpetuated by giant audiences on such a scale in such environments (to my knowledge, if we did, please enlighten me). I initially thought termination of his youtube channel, or social media presence in general might do some good, but it'd just cripple his livelihood
Despite all that, I do wish him best in his life, like I said, no one deserves the pain he has to endure
Nicks hole content style in my opinion needs a overhaul, went from being skinny and amazing at playing the violin to making a mess of himself, his relationships and his food and bed
people will try and copycat his success because they will see his mansion and that they dont have to work their terrible job. How many people will endanger themselves and their health trying to get rich.
It’s not the most unbiased video but TRO has a pretty good documentary style thing about him.
now I am waiting for a xisuma response video from him
What I think is "What's the point in eating that much when it could have gone to someone who needed it?"
The fact that TH-cam monetises it just sickens me
I remember youtube using his channel as advertisement. Someone posted an ad for TH-cam and he was on it
Hold up-
Hes flying
Finally xisuma is addressing this entire situation about this diabetic human being and people have been trying to help him too
Hi Xisuma, I don't think he is leading a sad life at all. I watched a youtube video by SunnyV2 that explored this idea and I agree with i. I think he is leading a happy life but he is pretending to cry on camera so that people make videos about him and give him attention. I don't know if this is the reality but there is a high chance this is the case since a lot of his videos are titled "my breakup" or something similar to that where he and his boyfriend say that they have broken up and are through. And the next day both of them appear in a video and act like there was never a fight in the first place. I'm sure these fights are fake and are added to the video so that people could make videos about him and give him the attention he wants. He wants people to say that he is leading a very sad life and is in a toxic relationship. If I remember correctly there is even a video where he says that he dislikes poor people. I feel that he will do anything for attention.
I feel it is a good thing that you are talking about mukbang Xisuma. Like Pewdipie said, it is an unregulated part of youtube where youtubers can literally torture an animal and eat it while it is still alive(someone actually did do that)without censorship. Mukbang also promotes consuming or attempting to consume a huge amount of food which can either lead to massive amounts of food wastage or very bad health.
And here I thought you were just an awesome Minecrafter and Hermit. I'm enjoying your take on things. Very sound. Very logical.
Watching this made me realize I hadn't had any proper food today and now I'm gonna go have some rice veg
Genetics are a much bigger part in weight and health than people realize.
I dont consume fastfood, sugared drinks and eat vegetables and fruits every day.
My calorie consumption is well below what I'm supposed to eat.
With all that I'm still overweight.
Compare that to peers of the same age and lifestyle, who down several energy drinks, a bunch of fast food and candy throughout the day, and are still as thin as one could be.
I'm sure there is stuff in my diet that could be considered unhealthy, but it doesn't warrant me this body if genetics didn't play part.
Both my mum and grandmother have/had the same body type as me ,whereas my brother and father are reasonably lean. All with the same diet.
unfortunately genetics don't really work that way (unless you have an actual genetic disorder, which most people don't). it's more likely that you're either eating more calories than you think, or burning less. plus, the people that you see eating all that junk food and still staying thin aren't genetically lucky, they just eat less food than you might think - i've been underweight before while eating nothing but junk like chips and chocolate because i was still eating less than i burned. and if you are 100% certain that you're eating well under your calorie limit and not losing weight, i'd recommend getting that checked out, because that shoudn't be physically possible
(if this comment comes off as rude i am very sorry i'm trying to be informative but i am also very high atm)
I don’t think TH-cam will do anything about it, because Avocado makes TH-cam lots of money.
I agree with the thought that watching mukbangs reduces your appetite. It happened to me too, i used to watched a lot of those type of videos when i started my weight loss journey. And well... It kinda worked? I felt like i was actually eating less than ever before and i dropped 7kg in like 5 months without any exercising...
And about Nick, i can only feel bad for him. The man who's once a talented happy human being is now shoving food into his face and digging his own grave. His violin skills are still so good even when he tries his best to make it seems terrible. It's so depressing, just so depressing...
A bit off topic but now when Xisumasays is already a buff chad and in his ultimate form
What would be next?
Its all a character, you can occasionally see him break it sometimes, and according to one of his videos he plans to quit at 30 (currently 29) and fix his health.
i dont believe he will actually quit at age 30 like he says but the way he behaves and speaks and "cries" etc is all an act and he is very self aware, idk how people dont see that.
I can say personally that I have a metabolism that allows me to eat junk food a lot without gaining weight, granted, I’m only a young adult and it’s likely to fall off with time and my weight is also most likely affected by my lifestyle to a large degree but even then I can say that I could eat junk only food for a month and not gain much or any weight.
I will point out how it’s weird how TH-cam it’s self hasn’t reached out and shit this guy down permanently. I mean after all, it seems like these days all they do is boast about how much they care about people’s health. They even removed the dislike button saying that it was helping people’s health. So this really does show how evil TH-cam as a corporation is. And the guy knows fully what he’s doing. I don’t think he cares. You see him blaming everyone under the sun for this weight but I doubt he cares.
5:20 No bc same- It makes food just seem so ungodly gross, and also how unhealthy it is, after eating like a few sweets i need to eat real food bc I just feel empty and kinda sick, and then imagining eat a bunch of junk food like that would be horrible- I really don’t know how they do it.
On the one hand dealing with toxic creators is nice, but any corporation is always going to fuck up on handling basic rules, so even if they passed a "toxic youtubers" rule, then it would just be abused by incompetent and greedy systems to destroy innocent youtubers.
Far as I'm concerned, just don't allow TH-cam to pass any rules, we're better off handling things on our own.
Hi xisuma :) I'm sure many people have a problem in their lives that makes them need to do things that increase their satisfaction center beyond the genetic factors. Some do it by eating, and others do it by drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes, or using drugs. etc. I would even say that a large consumption of time in front of a screen can also be a way to achieve a feeling of satisfaction, to get through the many stressful and frustrating things that happen around them / us. A kind of skipping action.
Think about that. You identified the problem. The consumption and excess is not the cure. We have to face them directly or it creates the problems you described :-)
@@xisumasays That's true. There is normaly a personal problem behind each cases. And therefore one must first find the cause of what is the cause of the actual problem before one can be cured. :)
I havent watched many videos of him but in the ones i saw he said BUY MY MERCH TO HELP MY HEALTH but he ruins his health himself no mony can help if you dont do anything..
It’s definitely a situation where he’s playing it up for views. I think based on his demeanor it’s pretty obvious he’s faking it, milking it for views.
As someone with binge eating disorder these videos really hurt, and it sucks to see him physically hurting himself by doing this.
I don't believe that anyone actually likes this kind of content. Rather they watch for the absurdity of it all. I heard a saying and I've replied to it somewhere here where it says "the nature of grotesque things is that one cannot simply look away".
Thanks for raising awareness about this
Never thought I’d hear xisuma (a Minecraft TH-camr) talk about nik
The way I usually fast, is have a meal before sunrise and go the whole day without eating or drinking until sunset. It really helps give a view on how unfortunate people dont get to eat 3 square meals or drink everyday and makes me value my everyday food more.
I recently came across this person (Nicacado) due to one of Meat Canyon's video revolving around him. it is truly saddening to see him self-destruct ... I don't watch mukbangs they make me just feel gross.
Really appreciate you talking about this! The thing that I’m thinking about or has me kind of worried is what should be done? I’m not 100% sure what you have in mind but saying things like „TH-cam should look into this“ has me feeling kinda upset, worried it will end in censorship. I also don’t think these types of videos should get „rewarded“ less.
In my opinion TH-cam could add a banner under the video (similar to the information about the corona virus in videos about the topic) but shouldn’t interfere much more as every individual needs to think for themselves. If you know you have problems with something; maybe don’t watch these kinds of videos. Also the content creator should be able to deal with the decisions they are making. If they need help they need to contact a professional and if they get greedy for views and harm their health ist kind of on them (i know some people need help and maybe get addicted to the views they are getting, so you cant apply this to everybody).
Anyways - good thing you are talking about it as some people only upload this type of content and it really seems it’s hurting their health
He’s playing a bit for money. This man knows what he’s doing but he chooses to do it because it gets him views
this is most likely true to some extent. the degree at which he over-reacts and the very fact that he sees the videos gets views fuels him to continue to harm himself
Muscle plays a massive part in metabolism. Muscle naturally burns more calories than fat doing nothing.
Actually, I can eat and eat and eat and eat, but I just don't gain weight. I'm a guy at only 60 kilos. And my mom was the same when she was young.
Watch him do a respond in couple of hours while making a mukbang
It honestly feels like Parasocial Peer Pressure, or just straight up Peer Pressure. Like, they do something and it's positively reinforced. So they do a little bit more, and it's positively reinforced... It builds and builds until it gets too out of hand.
I had no idea that xisuma had a 3rd channel!!
A few minutes later nikocado makes a video about xisuma
You know it's serious when the majority of comments are a paragraph long
I have an eating disorder in the other direction, these videos would make me even less interested in eating.
I had binge eating phases when I wanted to heal, always followed by not eating for a few days. That really wasn't healthy.
The only way this stuff will go away is if people completely ignore it. Any press is good press, and it will keep bringing money.
I mean yeah that's just the case. He's being fuelled by people watching and coming back to his videos.
Nick will never change until he feel a serious pain.
He broke his ribs
@@fxhdtchjfrytjyj From eating? Sure he did…. He ain’t exactly a reliable narrator of his life so even if he did break a rib, I’m sure that would have been quite the extraordinary circumstance for it to happen from eating and not an impact of some sort
@@fxhdtchjfrytjyj not serious enough apparently
@@xenosai371 to be fair my aunt used to be really large and maneged to break a rib in a coghfing fit and she wasn't as large as he is at least for my aunt it was a wake up call she is now a lot healthier the problem with avicado is he feeds to much of the attention he gets to consider the affect on his body
@@kretisme Oh right! I forgot about the fact weight also impacts breathing too and could lead to worse coughing fits. Forgot about his B/C-Pap Machine
Fair point!
Barely even a minute in to listening to this.
I went to look at his channel page.
And the thumbnails alone make me feel sick (and honestly really scared)--
Wow...
Yeah, he and anyone else who is doing "challenges" like this... they need help. (I may expand my comment after watching this. But as a general background for a bit about me, around about 10 or 11, my family started eating a lot healthier. My mom and dad joined a group at our church which was about eating healthy and living healthy--so physically and mentally, a whole Bible study as well as encouragement group--and my mom's still involved to this day. But around that time, I got super sensitive about eating healthy. So stuff like this hurts my soul tbh.)
I slightly regret looking into this before lunch, tbh. My appetite has gone down quite a lot.
I really appreciate the whole making it known that you don't know everything, because so many people talk like they're right. Resulting in toxicity, driving people away, or being really exclusive.
I am by no means the definition of "healthy". I hardly exercise and I eat out a fair amount. But I do care about eating well or at least decent. (My family has gone down to one desert at the weekends or maybe a few more on special occasions.)
For me though, it was the more holding myself back from eating junk food because of insecurity (less of loosing weight and more "I'm a good person if I follow general guidelines of eating right" because I've never really worried about weight as I was fairly skinny at the time. Looking now, I don't feel that way so much, but I'm trying to accept wherever I'm at, knowing that I'm not stuffing myself and I eat decently).
So my problem was in the opposite direction by trying to be hard on myself, which coincidentally almost messed up a friendship with one of my really close friends back in 6th grade. (It's fine now, three years later, but I had valued my "morals" over other people which created problems. So I'm trying to be better about it now.)
Thank you for whoever listened to my big ole' block of text.
I wish you well for whatever you're struggling with. You've got friends here in this community who I bet will support you in almost anything (completely serious saying that. These content creators are amazing as are their viewers).
I checked nick’s channel page just to see if he made a response video, knowing him, he probably will
youtube needs to be notified about nikocado eating too much.
I believe his "crying" is just his video persona. The person that own the channel Meat canyon (do not watch his channel if you don't like disturbing cartoons) shares the same option as me, and on his second channel "Papa meat shares his thoughts on it and I think he's spot on.
everytime i have christmas dinner, i always eat to much from just the food being so good, and then like the next 5 days i barely eat anything
In my humble opinion, prolonged fasting shouldn’t be used as a weight decrease method, not without consulting an doctor or dietician. It can be a good way of cleansing, but it’s very individual how how your body will react. If you want to lose weight, the simplest thing is to start eat healthy and exercises. Start slowly with daily walks, set a pace goal for each day, don’t overdo it but do it regular. At least a 15-30 minutes brisk walk. Stop eating fast carbs, i.e. potatoes, bread, pasta etc. Go for the food that gives you long saturation. No eating after 8 pm. No sodas, even the diet ones because they trick your body to store the fat you eat and you just get tired. There’s no quick fix, losing weight will take time. Changing your eating habits so they still suits you, your not to punish yourself, just change your lifestyle to something more healthy!
A good measure is losing like 0.5 kg/week, I did 1kg/week in the beginning of my change and lost 12 kg in as many weeks. But then got other healthy issues and had to slow down on the training a bit. Still losing weight, but in a slower pace. Down 18 kg now, but has a bit more to go. Changed my diet and is happy with it and can keep it up for the rest of my life because I’m still eating tasty food. I miss pizza and pasta, but until I can use up all those fast carbs they give you, I keep away from that.
Just remember, losing weight takes time but you feel so much better both in body and mind!
You can't help someone that can't help themselves, let alone someone that has no self-respect.
Project Nightfall posted this after you posted
life works in mysterious way
It is hot topic
And problem is, some of his audience in comment section seems to 'encourage' it and some gets angry when other people tryna critique nikocado :(
It's really sad situation, on the other hand, this exact reward system also helps other with metabolism problems like Yuka Kinoshita, a mukbang YTber from Japan that needs the money to feed herself because she needs the very big meal, and the YT earning feed her.
TH-cam be like: Mmm, yes, what a healthy creator, doing good content, and we fully support it
Fasting after so much junk food seems also really dangerous
Integrity versus profit.
It's so sad to see this kind of behavior rewarded
This is inevitable or at least encouraged by any ad based platform. Ads mean that the only thing that matters is watchtime/views.
Yeah but TH-cam will never label a fat person as abusive behavior because that is fat shaming and everything is about body positivity.