Rivalries Between SMP Communities?
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In this video we address commentors who create unfair pressures on creators, mostly revolving around calling things a "knock off". Hermitcraft is a friendly community and has nothing but good feelings towards other communities enjoying the game like Legacy SMP!
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Thank you for discussing this X!
Gemini!
Hi gem!
Hiii Gem, love ur survival series 😊
All the Legacy Team are on here!
Hey
The point of MC is to have fun and everyone does this in a different way which could end up appearing similar if you're not aware of the details. I've been lucky enough to have played MC for over 11 years and see how the communities evolved. In the beginning people told me what I did was too different to fit into general Minecraft gameplay but now that it's considered more mainstream I get told I'm just copying others, despite me doing my own thing for 11 years. Assumptions are the mother of all mess-ups and unfortunately people make alot of them.
Not taking breaks is the biggest reason that I've notice people quitting MC for extended periods of time. It's difficult to watch this happen to people time and again. I personal don't take breaks but I've also been playing the same game all this time.
Misunderstood messages are often the short ones which goes back to everyone is short on time so they write brief but often easily misinterpreted messages.
Good video
Most people can't even build Ur farms how dare they say Ur copying others
Ray, My first MC break lasted 3 years. Major burnout from playing on and staffing a large SMP. I’ve now been “back” since 2016, and running a SMP, taking 1-2 days off per week. Ray coming from a fellow Cappie I know you can go and go but I encourage you to be deliberate about taking breaks. Love your content and your work, and I have nothing but respect for you. Awesome to see you here. Thanks for reading
The man himself
Heeeeeeeey ray
Hello guys ray here poooog
This is very interesting and also applies to people saying smaller TH-cam remixers who are "knock off versions of Ely"
It is very hurtful for the victim and even for me... I want the community to grow. More music for the fans! We can't complain about more free content being available 🤔
i’m very disappointed that people aren’t thinking about the other person on the end of their comments :(
Another thing is how fans so often pressure you into making remixes of certain things.
exactly! there's no one person who "made" hermitcraft remixes and there's no one person who "made" the SMP idea. it's hurtful for all sides!
People get so protective over creators sometimes, they can’t seem to accept that 2 people can take a concept and run 2 completely different ways. Take you an JcTheFluteMan for example, sometimes you two remix the same things but the end products are only similar in the words that are used and who said them, yet Jc gets called a copy cat, even though it’s nothing similar. Love both your faces, love this community, just wish the toxic parts didn’t shine through so bright.
Wait a minute I thought elybeatmaker was an app
Sorry for my lack of knowledge
This is Bang on X... As you know, I know Fwhip as well as you do, and I know how big a smack the last few weeks have been for him. Thank you for taking on this really important subject head on - nice job!
Hey avo!
I have no idea what half of your message is supposed to say. As you know, i know Fwhip as well as you do, and i know how big ….. huuuuh?
@@stealthstyle1It's stating that they both know him.
Thanks X. It really means a lot that you touched on this subject. We all appreciate you.
I agree
How are you not verified yet?
I recognise this guy!
@@Avomance i recognise you!
Not really
@@nath9122yup...totally should
I have gone through this same situation and have lost a good creator friend of mine over this *_Copying Content_* ideology. My friend's entire community convinced him that I was copying his Ideas for content... Ideas... for crying out loud... Like I was in his head or something. As creators, we should be *inspired* by others' work and make our own from it.
Who was it?
@@oklol7799 joe
@@jupiter1789 joe who
@@oklol7799 joe mama
@@jupiter1789 wowowowow
Hi X! Thank you very much for touching on both of these topics. I 100% agree that we as creators also need to focus on that the intention could be positive; and that's what I also do myself- That's basically a whole other thread at that point, haha.
Overall I intended to hopefully inform people at least a little on how their comments 'could' be interpreted so they think more about their wording in order to make it more clear and break said communication barrier.
I think both the creator and viewer alike can benefit widely from this small change of wording in feedback.
We have more access than ever now to different forms of communication, yet our ability and access to interpret those is significantly weaker.
If someone in the audience feels they must make a criticism, I think the only way is to be constructive and positive. Negativity gets people nowhere. I definitely agree with ‘could’ rather than ‘should’. I personally have never felt that MC players across servers have copied another. And anytime they’ve been influence by someone else’s design, they’ve always said ‘based on N’s’ or ‘influenced by O’. That’s supportive of others and gives credit where due. It’s part of what makes HC and Legacy wholesome and great fun to watch.
I think maybe those that try to tear people down are venting in the wrong place.
I love how each creator I watch has different styles and ways of doing things. It broadens my understanding of what is possible with MC (I’m a total noob. If a group of noobs could have a noob, that’d be me) and has sparked a few ideas of what I could do within my own world.
You guys are awesome and supportive of each other. Wels sent his raid to fWhip (never watched fWhip before) and liked what he was doing. Followed for sure!
I hope you all are able to continue to enjoy what you do!
-AnnaBomBanana
304banana big fax!
Well said Pearl!!! Love your videos.
I love legacy and hermitcraft
So true, also love your builds moon!
In times like these, I'm proud to have you as such a good and well known example for others to look up to. I can't possibly imagine the weight on you in a daily basis with what you do and try to achieve. I truly appreciate what you've done (and continue to do) for content creators, communities, and people in general. Thank you.
Really appreciate you talking about this X, thank you, much love as always 😃
@@albanianmapping8606 Please stop asking, Python has addressed this many times. Python is still a hermit but he has said that he doesn't want to play this season.
Brickhead Studios ok i didnt know sorry
@@albanianmapping8606 Back in 2015 and 2016, people kept on asking Etho to play on Hermitcraft for longer than 10 episodes a season and it eventually got to him and he stopped playing on Hermitcraft entirely for 3 whole years because of that.
Cant wait for season 2 Python!! Keep it up
Python is the one who inspired me to make my own channel :)
Yes thank you xisuma
It’s like how history repeats itself;
Hermitcraft gets called a copy of Mindcrack and now other groups are “copies” of Hermitcraft.
similar to how all mmorpgs now are called WoW and diablo clones while WoW was considered a copy of warhammer back in the day. it's a never ending of cycle of stupidity
We don't learn history to not repeat it, we learn history to learn that we don't learn from our past mistakes.
@@porterwayman8643 bruh i didnt understand a single word u said but it sounds awesome😁
I see the SMP community more as a genre. It’s more than just hermitcraft or mindcrack
Agreed!
same
Yes exactly
Fax
BOOTYCRACKS IN THE MIND.
Xisumasays is ripping off xisumavoid smh 🤦♂️
When you realise xisumasays is xisumavoid
If you were being sarcastic ok i didnt know lol
And then there's beesuma and straysuma. Those guys are such copycats
SU TARTS DAD yes it was a joke
@@dumbasswithinternetconnect1611 and turtlesuma, smh my head
You idiot
Xisumavoid is copying xisumatwo
I think it’s funny hermitcraft was called a minecrack rip-off considering many mindcrack players went to hermitcraft for example doc and etho
And Bdubs I thought
And VillageBeef
"Python is a Hermitcraft member and a LegacySMP member at the same time! Now that's next level!"
-NotTipp
I think BDubs was part of Hermitcraft first, then moved to Minecrack before going back
And in the same thread one Hermit plays on the Legacy SMP, they each have their own place in the Minecraft TH-cam space
I have a SMP and lots of people say that I ripped off Hermitcraft. I always tell them on your 99 questions about Hermitcraft you said 'instead of trying to join Hermitcraft, try to make your own hermitcraft' - that is a great quote for anyone with a SMP server.
@Yaxbalam Lagunas Thank you 😀
Thanks for sharing your thoughts X and I 100% agree! As you said at the end, there is no rivalry or beef between servers, in fact many of us are friends with folks on HC and other SMPs too. Most of the comments I get are very positive and supportive but it's the negative minority that always seems to overshadow the rest. As creators we need to do our best to have perspective as well as assuming positive intent, by that I mean, don't let the few naysayers bring you down over the many many positive and supportive commenters. Thanks again, much love to you and the rest of the HC crew
the legend and the backbone of Hermitcraft redstone/automatic farm has arrived.
Love your Legacy SMP stuff!
I remembered once you're still on 3k subs and you did the survival let's play series named "Road to Hermitcraft" (now it renamed into Beyond Logic). I can truly understand that at that time Hermitcraft is a kind of prestigious dream for all minecraft content creator, but, then I glad you finally got LegacySMP as "your own Hermitcraft" that you can truly enjoy to be involved within. Now I've watched LegacySMP and love your very different approach (like farming trader Llamas just to win an event), and that is something I couldn't found in Hermitcraft. Keep up the good works!
He has Logic
This!!!
I feel so bad for fwhip :/ hes a really creative and imaginative person with incredible building skill and talent and it feels so unfair that people would ever call him a knockoff of anybody.
It’s like saying only 1 group of people is allowed to play multiplayer minecraft 😂😂😂
Fax fax, I think the legacy SMP server is a great server and I feel bad for fwip cuz that shouldn’t happen to a great content creator like him
there is different ways to look at it maybe some people doesn't like seeing the same thing over and over again even doh it is a little bit different.
is it people just hating it or being concerned?🤔
Yes, they don't realize how big and various the Community is
Basically those viewers who bashes other content creators, or server, are just immature viewers.
@@zsupper I'm gonna be a jerk but it needs to be done to save the future(only slightly kidding here): you are aware that it should be "...over and over again even THOUGH..." right???
Imagine playing survival with your friends and then called a copier
Like what
Awesome and very noble of you to address this X! Mad respect bro 🧡
Hello Witch from Attack of the B- team 💜
Defo recognise this guy!!! Not sure where i know him from!!
@@baboochka man you just brought back my childhood memories😭
baboochka hella throwback👀
Those mega walls videos were ICONIC
13:23 imagine going to 1000 episodes of Hermitcraft where every time you start a project you search for someone who already did it and say, "for this episode of Hermitcraft I was going to do X, Y and Z but Joe Blow did it two weeks ago so I'll see you on the next episode of Hermitcraft" LOLOL
Thank you for pointing this out! As a member of Legacy I’ve also received too many of these comments. Minecrafters should stand together
Viggoman!
Love your Legacy SMP stuff.
SO true Viggo!!
Anyone who is able to get a shoutout from BDubs should be well and truely ABOVE any silly detractors... Your stuff is awesome, don't feed the trolls :)
There is my favorite legacy member
people who say that X smp is copying Y smp sound like someone who says r/wooosh and doesn’t know what’s reddit
Toxicity within fandoms is a real problem.
But it cannot be stopped, sadly.
Some people are really stupid and don't think of the other people in the community.
@@anettoja9331 is it stupidity doh or perhaps lack of knowledge, communication or concern
@@zsupper It's a mixture of both some just either don't wanna learn and put said Fandom in such a high pedestal that other things just can't be simmilar to it or the much more positive route is their misinformed or misguided to believing such things
Sadly, toxicity may remain a problem on the internet, both through the level of anonymity that you can get through a pseudonym, but also I think that while this video would theoretically be very effective, this type of talk-y type videos doesn’t really tailor to the type of people who leave these comments, as I think it is safe to say that most people who watch/listen to this channel have a certain maturity, as in general we feel interested enough in others opinions that we listen to Xisuma talking about his opinions on topical subjects
Favoritism is also a big part of this toxicity...
I'm glad that I have no favorite content creator / minecraft player and just watch most of them to support each and every one.
But to be honest, I feel like you're kind of a rip-off of this other Minecraft TH-camr I watch, xisumavoid...You're both so similar, the resemblance is uncanny
what youtuber is that, hm?
@@tramatsid r/wooosh
Ikr! Xisumasays, Xisumavoid, they both feel similar.
This is just an Evil X ploy
@@MegaMariopower1 u used that wrong
It’s a shame because fWhip is a huge fan of Hermitcraft, and it’s evident in his videos and references he makes. So imagine being called a knockoff version of your favorite content, despite spending hours and days on designing builds. It’s disheartening at best, and devastating more often.
I just don't understand why people can't enjoy *twice the content* that they're getting for free
Ben Wall haha, good point
@@BenJaded well that's the embodiment of...
What did i want to say again? I forgot.
I feel like people should really stop comparing two very different SMP's. There's a video by a TH-camr (i forgot who) that compares Hermitcraft and another SMP most of you have probably heard of, DreamSMP, and saying that HC is dying. This caused a lot of people to be pissed off, obviously. And because both DSMP and HC are now probably the 2 most popular SMP's at this moment, there are many rivalries with the fanbase, fighting who's best and who's better when in reality, HC and DSMP are 2 very different SMPs. DSMP is a roleplay server meanwhile HC is just normal people playing Minecraft, with some roleplay in it. The rivalry between these 2 SMP's fanbase is very toxic and scary at some times. (no hate to anyone, I enjoy both SMP's, tho i am curious at X's perspective on this
i wanna watch the vid... can u please give me a tag/keyword so i can see it? thanks in advance!
@@wawoah1942 I think it's deleted because of backlash
Why do you even compare SMP's? I don't really care much. I just wanna watch chill minecraft videos. If you don't like a certain smp, don't watch it
@@idiotically-everything they literally said in their comment to not compare.
Everyone debating on what server builds ilmango and gnembons machines the best
SMP is more of a 'genre'. You can't call Ariana Grande copying Taylor Swift for also making pop music. In fact I would love to have more smps exist just like how there ar ea lot of pop singers.
That’d be hard to keep up with XD but it’d be really cool to see
If anyone's interested, here are a few SMPs of varying sizes :
- Afterlife SMP
- Coastline SMP
- Obelisk SMP
- Truly Bedrock
- Realm of Vasten
- NightOwl SMP
- Existence SMP
- Mindful SMP
- Prototech
-Scicraft
-X-life
Feel free to add to my list
Some suggested additions:
- DinnerCraft SMP
- NLG SMP
- IBCraft
I say rap, hip hop or even metal is way better than todays pop music
xD not serious lol
@Slick Rick 100% true
If SMP Is A Genre
The Fans Are Simps
I really think Xisuma should start a podcast.
I like what he's doing on this channel, and I think it would go great in a podcast format
Also, a few weeks ago he went on a podcast I listen to (The Spawn Chunks) and it was probably my favorite out of nearly 100 episodes there.
My point is he has a great personality that would fit great in a podcast setting
There is a TH-camr called smallishbeans and he recently made a video on tips about how to get better at building. the house he built used the roof style that welsknight has been using at his base, the building pallet that grian was using and he got ideas for his decoration from scar and bdoubleO and he got piles of awful mean comments. Yet the very first thing he talked about was getting inspiration from other TH-camrs he said those you four youtubers specifically and mentioned the Hermitcraft server as a whole.
i've seen smallishbeans in multiple comment sections of hermitcraft videos--- didn't know he was a youtuber!
people hear what they want to, i guess those people didnt want to hear him admit inspiration
the building pallet grian used in his mansion is actually pretty common, and i hate seeing hate people get for using it, "this is just grians mansion" or something along those lines. Its just the same pallet they still built it.
Ohh i khow smallishbeans aka joel
@@lythd I mean seriously
Also when X talked about how to join hermitcraft he literally told people to create their own servers instead XD
Lol that’s what I was thinking abt too while watching this video XD
And so i did create my own server
I love both Hermitcraft and LegacySMP as a whole, i don't think no one is copying anyone. Both are great communities
Me too!! It is however REALLY REALLY hard to keep up with all of them, and I try to because they are all REALLY REALLY REALLY great!
Lol if anything the Hermits are the ones who are copying other people, like Scicraft and LegacySMP. Xisumavoid himself copied PearlescentMoon for one of his builds.
@@madeleinebirchfield7658 no
Did you even watch the video? If you are seriously that dense, Madeline, go somewhere else.
SausageCanibal that comment is very true
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants"
-Isaac Newton
An SMP is a Survival Multiplayer Server. You can't blame a group for having a survival server where they play together being copycats. I get a lot of my inspiration from TH-camrs like Grian and Bdubs who are builders, but I've developed my own styles. Other people make SMP's because they might have been inspired by Hermitcraft for example, but then getting backlash from Hermitcraft "fans".
Xisuma: Where is my name?😂😂😂
This is just a joke.
@@SkipnTrip1 I am a Hermitcraft fan as well. Thanks for telling me that I phrased it incorrectly, I'll put fans in quotation marks.
I say any smp is no ripoff
EXePT FoR mY ProFiLE aND SmP
The exact same but on creative not surel
We must remember than ~75-80% of Hermitcaft fans are between the ages of seven and fourteen. Being a child doesn’t immediately mean that you’re emotionally immature, but children by and large are easily influenced, and don’t have the venire of politeness we learn to have. Not all children are toxic, but child-heavy fanbases tend to be more “toxic” than other fandoms. Whenever I see these rude commenters, I check grammar, vocabulary, spelling, etc. If I think they’re a child, I cut them some slack. They will hopefully learn and regret their toxicity later in life.
Looking at grammar etc. doesn't help if it is in English. Video's in English are seen by all kind of people from different countries. If you are from another country it's sometimes hard to speak good English. Even if you are an adult.
And also, what do you mean with etc? Because that can change a lot in my opinion.
Ye ik and im 12 and i understand these things and it embarrasses me (idk if i spelled that right) that late teens or adults say these things. Its sad that every fandom have toxic ppl.
I went into it more at-length in PearlescentMoon's comment, but I'll say something I think you missed. These people, whether they be children or not, have been included into a community, generally with kindness, and I think its important they understand the example thats been set for them. I think its important for them to understand they need to take responsibility for their actions.
And in the case of them being children, they wont develop into the adults they need to be without understanding that. There's a limit to an adult's patience and understanding, after all, we're all having this discussion because someone reached that limit.
@@randomperson8994 I know, it really sucks. It’s legit the entire reason I have to awkwardly stand there whilst older friends are chatting about who they watch, because I know some people who have lost friends just because others were thought of as just another toxic stan. it’s part of the reason I have strayed from the dream smp and prefer hermitcraft. Along with the facts that I dislike long streams and role play, Hermitcraft’s community turns out a lot more mature. Sure, you stumble upon toxicity every once in a while, but me and my friends get branded as “toxic” a lot less. Unfortunately for Dream smp I really can’t say the same. A friend of mine just talked about it in a reply, and got quite a few comments calling her toxic. It sucks.
@@yangzhang3167 I think the reason that Dream SMP receives a lot more hate from outside is not necessarily because it’s a worse fandom than Hermitcraft (though that very well may be the case), but rather because more people have been exposed to the Dream SMP fans than the Hermitcraft fans, combined with the fact that, at one point, Dream SMP was more popular in general (especially on everyone’s favourite platform of Twitter - there are many times where they have got their stuff trending), and, therefore, more people have seen more of the worse bits of the Dream SMP fandom (even if the proportions of toxic people vs. normal people was exactly the same).
Dude can you reach out to Jevin, if that's not too much to ask? He's burning out and he's not in a good place mentally, I guess. Seeing his tweets saying "I'm tired" and stuff is really worrying. You're the wisest person I've ever had the honour to watch, and I care deeply about the Hermits. Thank you for doing what you do, you changed my life for the better.
Yeah I know it's off topic but... Idk I just wanted to reach out
I don't whatch Jevin's vids, but if it is like that then I would be nice, his friends, to talk with him, and maybe not only X, like all of them 💓 (sorry for my poor English)
I'm sure they all support eachother privately, however, it's not X's responsibility to manage the welfare of other Hermits, they have a responsibility to themselves to seek support from family, friend and professionals. It's not fair to put the expectations on X to manage this.
@@uhmythx Sure, but I'm confident that as adults they can work it out themselves they don't need fans asking them to do welfare checks on eachother. If you saw tweets from ijevin then I'm sure the Hermits did too.
@@uhmythx no, you're good, others might think the same as you and there is no right or wrong answer, you're completely entitled to express your opinion. 🙂 Have a good day.
Fans ruin everything. Whenever a youtube channel ironically says "x good, x bad," the fans soon start to get toxic about it. That has ruined tons og good jokes, such as milk good, orange juice bad, or even the sub 2 pewds meme.
I‘be followed FWhip for a while now, and I honestly think it’s just the very younger viewers saying those things to him. I will say that almost every Minecraft channel on the platform has been compared to Hermitcraft, and it’s sad how few people understand how members join and things like that. But I think it’s just become the standard for success in this community
When I whatch his streams people always ask why dont you join hermitcraft
I wonder whose 'fanatic' fans was the most toxic that even dare to do that?
Stanley Wilmott yah and it’s wrong, it’s the same with pixlriffs, Hermitcaft is not everyone’s dream ppl have other things they are doing and they are doing well in it
@@Ventro_Devientro i heard a name that rhymes with Brian
Arinze Okerulu, glad someone else gets it, I tried explaining this to someone on Pixlriffs (Most recent?) video.
lmao how are there even "rip offs"
smps are literally just smps
a bunch of people play in a world and have a good time
thats not a "rip off"
Honestly, I think Hermitcreaft and other SMP communities have no rivalry. Hermitcraft is about a group of friends making content because they love making content. Most of the SMP communities I've personally seen make content because it's their jobs and you can see the real difference in the videos.
Keep up the good work as always X!
Yup, no rivalrys what so ever. If anything I'd be excited by the prospect of cross community collaboration!
xisumavoid maybe hermitcraft and other smp servers can do a crossover?
@@xisumavoid yes! the docm77 s6 finale when limango flew in! i was cheering so hard :D i am 100% on board with cross community collabs!
@@xisumavoidThe thing is hermitcraft is too big
I agree
Genres: **exist**
11 year olds: kNoCk-oFf!!!
I feel very called out ---
Amin Yashed some tho
Amin Yashed but I agree. Young people that aren’t at least 10 shouldn’t be allowed to talk on the internet
@@chrispycreme9545 also they're not even really supposed to be on youtube and not youtube kids
@@chrispycreme9545 *18
Part of it, I think, comes down to size. LegacySMP may seem like a challenger to Hermitcraft for some since the creators making it up are relatively large. I don't think this changes the fact of trying to have fun with internet friends, however: Buddies are buddies whatever the subscriber count. In the same vein, SMPs bringing talented creators together isn't some exclusive, unmoving genre.
Small of a channel as we are, we've already received comments like "this is just worse Hermitcraft" or "why are you guys making a worse Hermitcraft recap" even though the doings of the server is something we have no control over. We don't hide that fact we are greatly inspired by Pixlriffs and ZloyXP, and we don't think recapping a fun SMP is something that should be exclusive to them either.
It's good you're addressing this issue, as well as some of the main players that are trying to deal with it. Keep it up X
i also thought it was normal to have a recap for smp. how is that copying? you provide a great service. not everyone follow all the ppl on the server.
The Python thing really started this off. People called him a traitor? There all enjoying the same things people. Relax.
I was actually really happy that python joined legacy tbh i don't what people are on about
Xisuma is the Yoda equivalent of Minecraft...
Love the vids X. Keep it up!
Hello there
@@lovelydeedee0 general konobi
"Peace I bring, drinking tea I must" -Yodavoid
Yep even the small youtubers like me get this. Turns out all SMPs are very similar, because there's only so many ways to play survival with friends lol.
Right yeah you build things, make farms, make and expand bases, maybe come up with games to play with each other or play pranks. Like, thats what Minecraft is.
Most of the rivalry between SMP’s is probably just the fans.
Yea but just SOME fans, toxic fans
Mostly the kids. No offence
@@bootsthecatsupremacy7838 i think soo too (also no offense)
Yea, just toxic ones, I think smp’s are great that people can play together and make vids. I love non hermitcraft smp’s like truly bedrock, decidedly vanilla, and legacy smp. I hate people that say people copy with out any idea that they didn’t, but it’s ok to call someone out that does block for block copies like skippy 6 gaming, and coal 73.
Yes its those fans. Not us
I would love to see HermitCraft and SmpLegacy in Crossover
I watch both legacy and hermitcraft for switching things up and I’ve always hated how people call other creators knock offs. I can’t believe people do that it’s horrible
*PERSPECTIVE*
I agree
As a community, we should always stand as one! For a video game with limited mechanics and Block choices its only a matter of time before two or more minds create the same concept... (example: The new blaze farm, barter farm and Wither Skull Farm)
As a community member now creator as well, Fans need to understand that there are only a few number of formats and videos styles that attract viewers and retention time and those formats and style can only be mixed and matched so many time before the Creators your watching all start to "resemble" eachother but in their own specific way!
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My two cents to add to all this (I dont have twitter yet) are to find the creator whos personalities and style are compatible with you and enjoy!!
"everything in this life is a remix of another thing"
HE KNOWS.
Im pretty sure i heard somewhere that when a human being try to invent something new, their brain activities are actually similiar to when they recall things from the past.
So yes, everything IS a remix of another thing.
Ooga booga hmm
I read this right when he said it.
"there's nothing new under the sun" is a saying that is centuries old
*Even when we were born*
Ye when brain is used to think, the easiest part it has access is memories regardless of if the person remembers it or not. It's still there.
I recently made a realm like hermit craft with 4 friends and I figured out you don’t need to be part of a big server to have fun
That's heartwarming to hear!
You just need friends. But I dont have any.
@@UltraAryan10 To have fun, you don't need friends. Of course is it necessary, but you can be alone make some stupid things and have lots of fun. Trust me I know that. 😉
@@radio_marco I like Minecraft single player too. So I can agree.
Yep that is true making your own server/realm is way lot fun to be honest
I mean... when my friend started an SMP server that he streams on, I _literally_ copied Grian's hot potato idea, and I'll readily admit that, because I loved the idea, and wanted it to spawn loads of creative pranks and challenges of its own from it. It did spawn from the inspiration of Hermitcraft, but with it being an open server, and our head admin installing plugins instead, it's spawned it's own vibe in some ways...
Edit: Forgot to note, due to the fact that very few of our members are content creators, I did adapt our own rules as well, to give them a properly defined structure for those who don't.
This is basically the exact definition of “taking someone’s idea and adding your own spin on it”
People are allowed to do that. The hot potato game is something he created for fun, not just for him and the hermits. That’s like saying “i invented go fish so nobody else is allowed to play it”
I’m happy you can admit where it came from though, that takes a lot more bravery than people think, especially in youtube comment sections.
@@Chunkypup :)
It's just infirurating that all of the people who are here are the people who actually has a vast understanding of stuff and are open and supportive for other people. And the ones who are being destructive and critics are just people who aren't even devoted to the creators they are just immature self entitled bandwagon people. And what's more infirurating is most of them right now are kids.i mean yea they are adults in the mix and teens who are also morons but most of it is kids. Just inagining the future of the internet with these kinds of negative ande destructive people is just sad tbh. And I'll bet that in the future nobody will have fun anymore I n the creator community(ytbers gamerz and etc)
I saw your tweet and knew you were gonna do this vid :)
Yes, I even thought the same.
I see you also like Alan walker
How do you copy an SMP?
It's like saying every painting a cave drawing copy.
It's copied if you do the EXACT same thing where everyone build the EXACT same builds block on the same seed! This thing is redicilus.
yeah it's like saying every youtubers who play minecraft for content are copying each other, what an idiot
Yea it’s like saying all the reply’s here are copies
Yea it's like saying all the reply's here are copies
@@aryosheva8204 its like saying every mc youtuber is copying this video th-cam.com/video/LEG9feKeQMY/w-d-xo.html
It would only be a copy if the idea was claimed to be original even thought it isn't.
"After the dictionary was written, everything else is just a remix"- Mahatma ghandi
Cool Bug Fact: “Don’t take anger out on other people just because they had a similar thought process or were inspired by someone else. People should be able to enjoy what others have already made content on.”
I like your user name lol
Is this a meme comment that actually raises a good point?
Don't they know being inspired is how we learn and grow? It's like they're saying other restaurants shouldn't exist because there's already one that's more popular and liked.
I had the so called "word problem" with a post on Planet Minecraft where I was trying to communicate over a problem on the site and how we could make it better. Because of words being cold as you said, I got dozens of hate messages because of small misunderstandings in my argument.
Glad your bringing this up X. I saw fWhip's post in Twitter yesterday and it was a shame to see that happening. Hopefully a Hermit like yourself speaking up about this will put a stop to this stuff :)
How cool would it be, after having a civil war in season 6 of hermitcraft, having a MCM "MineCraft Multiverse" little crossover between both servers ? Maybe some Hermits invading or taking care of the base of someone in the Legacy SMP? :p
That's stupid ,every smp is different in it's way and Minecraft is a game based on sharing .there's no such thing as copying.
(Edit:grammar)
2:30 that's what I mean
Missed a comma there mate
Amp is made by the personalities in it to say they are copying is like to say they have the same personalities which is not true in the slightest
@@MrMan-rr4xj thanks dude
You’re welcome
hermitcraft season 8 is a knock off of season 7 smh
I’m just so happy to read through this comments section and see so much positivity surrounding this community. I love coming to this channel to see everybody contributing positively to the conversation. Thanks x!
I’m copying the first person to eat because I’m eating why do I copy everything
I've been a musician most of my life, and professionally most of that. And as someone who loves Minecraft as a creative outlet for when I play I've noticed a lot of this myself. One thing my career has taught me when it comes to this subject I didn't see covered here is that we as creators can't assume the people commenting and critiquing have the same depth of understanding and nuance we have of our craft. For instance I write a song that's entirely my own creation, but many people tell me it sounds exactly like something they hear on the radio. I can go into how that chord progression has been used for hundreds of years to evoke the emotional response I wanted to which is why I chose it, or that the song composition in most western music has been basically cemented in this way for almost 100 years itself, but I can't assume the people telling me that understand the choices. So unless it gets brought up I just thank them for the compliment (regardless of their intent lol) and that's where it ends for me. There's a limited number of blocks in the game, same as there are a limited number of notes to make a melody with. There's limited number of mechanics at play, same as there are a limited number of musical theories that work in modern music. Even if you can promise no outside influence over your creation, someone somewhere will be able to make a correlation to something else they enjoy, and as a creator I have to understand that, and make the choice of how much or how little I let it effect me personally.
A great analogy.
very true on all fronts
just a word on fwip, he copies a lot of peoples builds. he was about to start the exact same build at iskalls tree and i commented on it and he stopped. i mean, his idea was 100% the same and iskall was already half way through his build. he also copies one of ethos builds. so if he's got a beef, he needs only to look in the mirror.
Two points, I have noticed. One is we often forget that platforms like this and twitch are filled with children, who don't have a grasp on how to properly talk or comment on social media. I'm halfway through life and find reading comments is a great way to gauge someone's age.
Secondly I find when watching live feeds, both sides can be short and almost mean with their comments. I understand that no one wants to be asked the same question a thousand times every time that they stream, yet content creators often become very frustrated and become short with their followers.
I just started watching hermitcraft. I watch 22 of the 24 hermits. I'm starting to not enjoy hermits on twitch because of the way the interaction with their followers. I find some hermits to to kind and enjoy watching them, others not so much.
That is a good point. I've actually had that happen to me, where I was really annoyed by a user commenting on a livestream day and spamming to contact another hermit. He got called out and banned a lot, but always came back and continued.
By chance I came across his TH-cam channel later and it was actually a little kid. Not even 10 years old and he was just extremly excited that this hermit visited his server once (and left really sweet signs). He didn't know what to do with his excitement so he spammed it in chat... I felt different about his behaviour after I knew his age and I think a lot of the hermits might have been nicer to him as well had they known about that. People really hated on that little kid in chat... And some of the hermits were really harsh in their words.
Now I really try to remind myself that there might be a kid on the other side that simply doesn't know better yet, when someone is really annoying. You can oviously say something to stop that as a streamer... but you should always watch the way you say it.
Yeah, agreed. I absolutely love listening to X's streams and hearing his take on life and current events but sometimes I think he forgets that some of his audience is younger kids when he "trolls" as a joke. Some people in the chat won't get the joke and will actually believe what he says. (As an example, the other day he was joking and pretending that he had pranked mumbo by destroying his base earlier in the stream as if everyone had missed it, which is all in good fun until you see the chat of younger kids believing it and saying that it wasn't kind, etc. They didn't realize X wasn't serious).
nanino I agree that if you knew this was literally a child you will act differently, however, without that being known in these interactions, as a rule, respect should always be given to and requested from the audience. If a kid is not respectful of the rules he must be called off so he will learn how to interact with that community. He may receive a rough response but is not the youtuber’s responsibility to educate this child with love, but it is the youtuber’s responsibility to care for his community so he will call people off so respectful interactions can be maintained in his community.
I never realized that I do this... the “you should..” is the one I always use not thinking anything of it. After watching this, I get it now. Glad you spoke up.
Wels had said once that scar, bdubs and fwhip are his inspirations. Everyone is inspired by someone else. Fwhip is absolutely amazing at building and terraforming and he certainly has his own style. Minecraft building is art just like painting or sculpture. Monet and Renoir painted in a similar style but distinct in their own way.
Rhianna Staker yeah like wels built a boat in I think his second episode and he said it is fwhips design
when xisuma says you could start your own hermitcraft but you have no friends😥
:(
I don’t do Minecraft, but I get this all the time. People just think there are bigger creators who are similar so therefore I must be copying. Edit: actually I wish I was doing Minecraft, its probably my favourite game
Maybe you should do some Minecraft on the side then! "Should" meant only as a suggestion, of course. ;) If Minecraft is your favorite game, why not set aside a little more time to experiment with it? I know as a let's player, your racing game audience probably wouldn't show the same level of interest in Minecraft videos, so it might not seem worth putting that out there. But hey, you might get some interest and make people happy because of that very thing--someone watching a Minecraft video could idly click on your channel and go "oh sweet! My favorite racing game!" And surely some of your current subscribers would be thrilled to see you playing Minecraft. So I say if makes you happy, go for it! Share your joys!
Bruh how the heck did you find yourself here 😂
@@WritingsOfQuill I did it for a bit on a second channel, but I don't think I know enough yet to really make videos worth watching. Personally I watch Minecraft videos to learn and see other people building insane things, and if I don't feel like I'd watch the videos, it wouldn't feel right making them. But, you know, I'm learning more about it every day, so maybe its one for the future
@@mdrz I subscribe to Xisuma...?
I really like Fwhip and Xisuma so Im glad this video was made and the takes that were given.
yeah X is 100% right Hermitcreaft and other SMP communities have no rivalry
Are you trying to be sarcastic?
@@onlyaraku dont think so
Are you being sarcastic?
So glad you made this video! This inclusive attitude you have is what I love about the general Minecraft community. That's why it really hurt to see fWhip's comments.
Everyone copy’s stuff from other people, there is only issue when it’s blatantly the same without anything being added or changed. Otherwise It’s just art and trends transforming through different people’s ideas and spins on old concepts, which is good, it keeps things interesting.
I agree. people need to start letting community's grow and new people to join instead of fighting that. but of course if someone is straight up copying like posting a build or remix as their own that shouldn't be tolerated in any community
I agree with the overall message but not so much the wording. I think that people like other smps aren’t “copying” or that “everyone copy’s stuff from other people” but more, people take inspiration from the people in their lives, and the people who they watch.
Everyone copy's stuff from other people, there is only issue when it's blatantly the same without anything being added or changed. Otherwise it's just art and trends transforming through different people's ideas and spins on old concepts, which is good, it keeps things interesting.
I just realized that I now and then make the mistakes you pointed out in the video, Xisuma. Things like saying you should, instead of you could, etc. It has never been my intention to make others feel bad because of my tone, and I never really stood still by the fact that everyone has to guess my intention out of some blank words. Watching this video has been an eye opener, and I am grateful for that. Thank you, Xisuma, for discussing several topics like this, because as I mentioned, I never intended to hurt anyone, but didn't realize my mistakes.
I love X for many reasons. The biggest one is how responsible he is. I love how he uses the platforms for doing what's right
There's a line from Homestuck that I think puts it best: "There is nothing new in paradox space." Literally every concept, across all of history, every single possible idea that humanity is capable of having, has been inspired by or remixed off of another idea. True originality straight up does not exist, no matter how much we think it does.
I am really enjoying your Xisumasays vids recently X! Have you heard about the youtuber ibxtoycat? You both talk about alot of the same things!
Ibxtoycat is more ware crimey and xisuma is more Black people lives matter.
It’s kind of sad that this kind of stuff needs to be explained to people.
Ironically these people are probably the same ones that regurgitate unoriginal memes in every comment section.
This topic reminds me how important emojis and emoticons can be as a sort of “punctuation“. While in professional settings this would be unusable, online it would be very helpful for people to use them more (not to excess, that’s just a mess) ☺️
You see I don't much like emojis because I'm on androjd
The DragonLord so android doesn’t have emojis?
I know what you mean! In emails I find it hard to not add a little :) or something cos I think my writing sounds “cold” or just plain boring but I can’t because it’s professional ughh😂
In the last video I watched, I was reading the comments and there was this really long comment about how they were really depressed and Minecraft saved their life, and somebody replied with just:
“Wow what a waste of ******* time, why did you bother to type that”
People can be mean.
I once left a comment on a Hermit’s video that was largely positive, but i also added that a certain part of the video was really tough to sit through because it was really slow. They took it badly and said in their next video that if anybody had a problem with how they made their videos to watch something else.
This struck me as speaking directly to my previous comment, so i scoured the comments section of the video i had the critique for, and it turned out i was the only one who had said such a thing.
It broke my heart that i had hurt their feelings in anyway, the comment was said with love and compliments and i had thought i had critiqued properly.
Even when you mean well things can be taken so horribly wrong and I can’t watch their videos anymore because it makes me sad to think i hurt a Hermit
the same thing happened with me, when I commented on Xbcrafted's video saying "we want to see you collab with other hermits! " in the most positive sense. Xb took it the wrong way and said stuff like I can't collab every video and if I didn't want to watch, I could leave. He lost a fan that day.
:(
Hey, maybe try to talk to them, it can be hard ofc, but clearing things out is really important! if you do so you can make them happy and explain what you meant to say! I wish you the best of luck 💓💓💓
I’m sorry that the hermit that you commented on room your tone the wrong way! I completely understand if you felt put down after they said that, and I understand you probably tried to make your comment as kind and positive as you could, but sometimes people could be in a bad mood, or could simply take your tone the opposite way. Of course, I might be wrong, but your comment definitely made my think about how I tone my comments.
Yeetus fetus dankus memes
And all i care about is:
- Not having an annoying voice/personality
- Good enough content and skills
- Good enough audio and video quality
- Not screaming all the time
I’ve always made a habit of slapping a smiley face at the end of all my comments- :-D
I normally use a smiley face and a “have a nice day!” to help convey that I mean well when commenting something that’s opposing someone’s opinion, quite useful imo!
Thats a nice habit
=D
Personally My community is using the Hermitcraft Season 7 Seed However other than the Mooshroom Island Shopping District I have told peeps not to copy Hermitcraft but do their own thing... If they decide to further copy Hermitcraft It is their choice However I do plan to stick to my island sice I know it isn't a clone of your server Xisumavoid... I also would like to extend a friendly hand to anyone who would like to help build on the realm! We should build each other up not tear each other apart!
SMP just means Survival Multiplayer Server. It's just friends playing with other friends. Honestly a shame how people these days call everything that's a little bit similar to each other a knock-off or copy.
Elybeatmaker
Avomance
Raysworks
PythonMC
TheMythicalsausage
Geminitay
Pearlescentmoon
Chimneyswift
Viggomanplays
All commented on this vid so it must be good
Am I missing any?
These are like podcasts, and I love podcasts.
also, have you ever thought of making a podcast?
He was on the spawn chunks podcast with pixelriffs
@@spikespoke5446 I listened to it, great podcast :)
@@voltsu he should be invited to the Void Frogs and Mindcrack podcasts. VintageBeef was on Void Frogs podcast once, and Joe Hills and Doc were guests on the Mindcrack podcast once.
@Madeleine Birchfield Thanks for mentioning Void Frogs! I was just looking for another Minecraft podcast to listen to.
Xisuma, sometimes I forget that behind the derpiness, you're a wise dude. ;)
Everything is inspired by something else...
But that's ok.
Everyone is a knock off of everyone else
So does that mean there isn’t any knock offs?
a wise man once said ,"every person are the same because we all are different " (now im confused, srsly)
People have to understand everyone throughout these servers are friends, python GB is a hermitcraft member and has been on Legacy, Zloy Xp of hermitcraft recap is also on truly bedrock etc Everyone is apart of a large minecraft smp community
You are specially right with the commenting language thing. I create videos in spanish and usually get comments like "english ver when?" which i sometimes don't like. I guess they just want me to make the video in english because the topic is interesting, but the fact there is no "please" or a suggestion really makes me doubt their intention.
this is stupid
why dose this need to be a thing
doing the same thing dose not mean copying
Dose
Cause people can be stupid.
Hermitctaft Map dowloand Java,bedrock:Legacy SMP map dowloand Java No Pe=bedrock ok Yeah I love Hermitcraft Um...Legacy SMP Dog:((
This is a big issue in other genres as well. I used/do to run a outdoor/hiking channel for 5ish years, and it never really went anywhere, only about 1-2k (and that was slow). I had videos that grew eventually fast, but they were not my best videos, or they were build videos. So I got types of comments like these. Or I got "wtf, this is a terrible video" comments all the time. One was, I making an improvement to some gear I had, and a mod existed out there, but it wasn't what I wanted, so I figured lets try something else out. about 50% of the comments were about the mod that existed (even though I mentioned it the video a couple times and explained why I didn't wanted to do it), 25% were complaining about my lack of skill, and 10% were just complaining. I had a few other videos like that with similar results. Where the videos that were amazing went no where, and the video that were ok at best, did amazing in views, but got berated. So I eventually just lost motivation to pick up my camera, because the channel that was fun to do, no longer was fun to do. I may do something else, but I haven't found the motivation yet. I've tried to revitalize it, but haven't found it yet.
oh you're playing on an SMP? well you're knocking off mojang because they were the first to come up with the idea of a minecraft survival multiplayer server!!!!11!1!!
With the situation with reading comments, youtube could give the option, like reddit, to have a "highlight" before or at the top of the comment that either has presets or even a "custom option" Ex (at the top or front of comment in some color): Respective, Positive, New. And even things like: Sarcastic, Mean, Hateful, Serious, etc. Thats just me, btw a while back and and a couple of friends started a smp a while ago, we never uploaded anything but did mention other smp's like hermitcraft and TB (truly bedrock). This was also a bedrock server, so it was a bit harder to do, so we decided once we all got computers, we where going to try it again but on java edition, we also plan on getting a few more people in as their where only 3 of us . Assuming you read this, or this far, thank you X and anyone else who read this, its a really nice community here, and i hope it stays that way.
Weird he didn't talk about Elitecraft, ElRichMC's spanish-speaker vanilla SMP. They have the biggest numbers, but don't get any recognition by the other communities :(
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