Is The Outrage Justified? - Will Smith Incident At The Oscars
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The recent events at the Oscar's have caused quite the stir. In this video Xisuma discusses the incident and gives his take on the situation and the outrage that has followed.
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0:00 What Happened?
0:27 Extreme Opinions
1:08 Further Context
2:33 My Take
4:26 Defending His Wife
5:36 Alopecia
6:55 Racism
7:53 Troll Farms
8:40 The New Landscape
9:24 Mental Health
10:06 My News Diet
#oscars #willsmith #chrisrock - เกม
I love how Xisuma is one of not manny that can just talk about things an does not make drama about it 👍
This is why I trust in Xisuma, that he has a sound and down to earth oppinion (while not having watched the video yet 😆)
Absolutely agree!! Awesome way of communicating
Completely agree nice one x
"Ignorance should be responded to with education" perfectly said!
that's the best thing i've heard all day
I'm the clown of my friends and I didn't know she had that, so I wont make jokes about her hair but then again her and Will are in an open relationship so he should be use to other guys taking a jab at her and not react like that
Yeah, but try being an actually oppressed person. You don't know how exhausting it is to "educate" people. A lot of us get very sick of it.
@@BigGayIncorporated your right shut down all places for education. We don't need schools after all those educators must be very sick of it.
@@spudsdj8384 i dont think that's what they meant. It's when people constantly disrespecting you and you have to educate them with no guarantee they will listen. It's not their responsibility to educate others to respect people from different backgrounds.
I love how neutral you are when it comes to topics like these but yet you give us as much information as we need to form our own opinion
Lets be honest Xisuma is one of the most calm and least ignorant content creators ive ever seen his arguments are always well thought out and he keeps a cool head and listens to both sides by far the best content creator and rolemodel for children to be learning from
Absolutely!!
Im a child, this is good content!
My dad had alopecia and it was really embarrassing for him and a joke about it may have caused him to be really upset. I can see where the Smith's could have been greatly affected.
Yea, I do not think Chris Rock should have made that joke but i also think hitting someone in front of a lot of people over it is not a good respons
Not a correct response, but an understandable one. Abelism can be a pretty intense problem and a daily form of discrimination to deal with. Hitting people is not the solution though, spreading awareness is.
@@laartje24 Stop comparing being bald to being handicapped, handicapped people wished they were only bald
As someone with a violent temper, I get where Will Smith is coming from. Having that kind of really strong emotion almost taking over you is not easy to deal with.
But the key is almost. You always, always (unless you have psychiatric mood regulation problems which is a different thing altogether), have a modicum of control. It's just a lot harder for us passionate folks.
I remember as a young girl repeatedly hitting my friend because she made fun of me and just mid-punch, my senses came back and I was horrified with what I was doing and apologized immediately. It doesn't excuse what I did but that sudden burst of emotion sometimes just blinds you and you get tunnel vision.
@@laartje24 Alopecia doesn't make you disabled though.
This is what we call “Two wrongs doesn’t make a right”
“News diet” sounds like a great phrase. I’ve definitely done this before. The feeling reminds me of when I was younger and was more ignorant of the world around me. I feel like it can lead to a reduction in stress.
I’ve been doing some research around this myself. From what I’ve read, people are bringing race into it due to the importance and significance hair has for Black women- a topic that Rock has made a documentary on and so therefore should be aware of how offensive his comment was. It’s also interesting to think about how a joke around someone’s disability or chronic illness is much less accepted when someone is physically and visibly and disabled, compared to invisible illness. Imagine the outrage if a joke had been made about someone in a wheelchair, I think the reaction would be very different. I hope that we can at least learn from this that jokes around someone’s illness or condition need to be left in the past (unless you are talking about yourself, as humour can always be a coping mechanism).
Personally I don’t support violence in the answer to anything, even though you can argue that it has created much needed change in the past. I think a big issue here that you touched on is that there’s so far no consequences. If someone in a public place had punched someone, they’d at least be escorted out the building. The fact that Smith was applauded and given a Oscar shortly after really highlighted to me how the rich and famous are almost exempt from the laws and social expectations that us ‘average’ people are.
I would say that having a blind view of race isn’t always appropriate or sensitive, as I don’t think it’s as simple as that. Race plays such a huge part of identity and upbringing, and there’s so much ingrained racism in our education, Nhs, police systems etc that it’s impossible not to consider it.
These are just some thoughts I’ve made after doing some reading! Happy for anyone to disagree or correct me on things
Edit to add on as a clarification: I don't think I explained my thoughts on disability very eloquently! I'm coming at this from the point of view of an ambulatory wheelchair user. When I'm using my chair I get treated like glass, people are much more careful and considerate. When I'm not using my chair, people seem to forget I'm disabled. Having a visual respentation of how ill someone is can really change how they treat you, and how they react to jokes. I think its interesting to think about this difference and how it might change perceptions of the situation.
If you look at Ukraine right now and how they are defending themselves you can't argue that violence is a necessary response whilst not a desirable situation it is a necessary response
I'm only responding to the wheelchair bit. And the thing is people don't know how to take jokes anymore. Do you know how many jokes were made about Stephen Hawking?
@@ERROR_INVALID_HANDLE yes, in extreme situation like that then I'd agree that violence is keeping people alive. But at the Oscars? I don't think so
@@alexandriekitty725 maybe people now are just more comfortable speaking up when an offensive joke is made. Its not as simple as my comment might have made it though- Hawking often made jokes himself and had that sense of humour right. In this situation its known that Jada Smith had struggled with her hair loss, so it would be pretty obvious that she's not in a good enough place for humour at this time
@@alexandriekitty725You read that entire comment and still didn’t get the point they were making. Comedians are not exempt from the consequences of their actions. That same “it’s just a joke” argument is the reason why white people think it’s ok to say slurs to black people. “People nowadays don’t know how to take a joke” maybe just people now a days aren’t gonna sit there while someone insults their family. I know I wouldn’t.
I can appreciate that Will wanted to defend his wife while still condemning how he went about it.
I feel like this is the exact textbook definition of "Two wrongs don't make a right", chris was wrong to make a joke on something that is that close to the bone, either knowing or not (and if not then he should research his target better before making jokes like that) and he got put right but Will should have said something rather than responding to violence straight away (these things usually start with "Hey dude, that's not funny", kinda what I think Will resorted to afterwards with "Keep my wife's name outta your damn mouth" but then the other party usually backs down or responds and responding gets you hit)
Not saying any of it is right, it's all wrong and more wrongs don't make any of it right.
exactly, i dont know why "both did bad" is never an option on twitter
Chris is a comedian.
He was working.
No one should be assaulted for doing their job.
Everyone deserves to be safe in the workplace.
@@yt.personal.identification Still, there are somethings you shouldn't joke about. He could've chose another topic to talk about and still did his job.
Why did Will laugh at the joke than?
Something Alan Davies brought up on BBC Breakfast the other day still sits in my mind. Where were security? Why was he even able to get on the stage in the first place? If it was anyone else, they'd have been taken out of the building.
Great addition to the conversation! One thing I'd say about the football comparison to the Oscars is that when playing a match is there is an agreement that you will be competing physically and an element of danger is expected. That's not an agreement Chris made by going on stage. Getting hurt playing football is frustrating but a chance you take by going on the pitch
I was literally just watching a news video about it. Besides of course everything else that is crazy about this, it’s insane how widespread this conversation is.
Always love to hear you’re take Xisuma 💕
The quote was ‘KEEP MY WIFE’S NAME OUT OF YOUR. ****ING. MOUTH” and yes it was said in full caps with the pauses. He also shouted it twice. Edit: some versions it’s not muted, I think some european one or something
I have one of the very first unedited recordings on my channel. It was being taken down quick last night.
Just thought I would catch a copy. haha
Thank you for talking about this incident, I’ve been hearing a lot about it lately and I didn’t want a bias opinion of it because they are people who think and feel the way we do. With everyone turning it into a joke and meme I appreciate you bringing it to light so I can hear a none bias source to discuss the story
The thing is this is the oscars-chris is a comedian, it has long been tradition to poke fun and “roast” the audience. The three are(maybe were now) friends and have known each other for ages, a joke about her starring in g.i jane may have been in bad taste because it is a sensitive topic for Jada, however inherently its not like its bad, the movie g.i jane is about a gorgeous women who happens to be bald. Will even laughed at the joke, then when he saw his wifes reaction took a 180, its clear they have a very unhealthy relationship(ahem the entanglement stuff) and still do.
It may be that Jada wanted Will to stand up for her. The fact that he went up there doesn't necessarily mean that he was not letting his wife speak her way
One of the takes i also dislike is "he laughed it off when he first heard it so he was fine with it" - when you're expecting a joke you laugh out of habit and it takes a few seconds for what was said to actually register properly.
When the joke is directed to someone close to you you definitely pay atention though. And you could see him laughing for a relatively long bit. Now Im not saying he was fine with it, but it IS weird
@@jabariwiththebois5765 Will, in his apology, mentioned how jokes at one's expense are part of being in the career, and you learn to roll with it.
I think he may have been riding the mood with everyone else, until the moment he saw pain in his wife, whom he probably expected to be laughing as well. Then he reacted emotionally to her suffering, and went full protector mode.
I don't condone his reaction, but I understand how he got there.
I will say that, while he did get violent, I do feel he still managed a measure of self control. He slapped Chris, and stopped there. He did not punch him, or try to beat him up. It was a single punitive strike. This thought is supported by what he shouted after.
Will messed up. I am not defending his actions at all. But he isn't the type to usually act like this, and I do believe that is in part why things stayed away from legal action. Chris declined to file a legal complaint, and they both have apologized to each other, and others, for crossing lines.
I think all the drama comes from them being public figures. If two mundane folks had the same interaction, then decided to talk it out after, the world wouldn't be looking to crucify one or the other.
Fax. "laughing it off" Is also a natural response to discomfort or even fear(definitely discomfort in this case)
@@WanderingWolfe I definitely agree with you on that last part, this isnt that big of a deal really
@@jabariwiththebois5765 and then he realized his wife was offended by it
what's so hard to understand about it?
Thank you Xisuma for this video, I love how you respond "ignorance with education", you teach us criticism and to think by ourself, by not listening to people shouting their opinions on social media. Thank you, and continue like this!
I was hoping for you to cover this subject!
Amazing vid x!
You can put into words my thoughts better than I can. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and point of view in a calm thoughtful manner. I wish you were on the news because you would never tell us what to think, you would just share several points of view, how you’d tend to lean and then leave it to us to find out more before we make an opinion. You have a strong character and i’m grateful that you share your thoughts.
Honestly I think Will Smith is a victim of abuse. Jada Pinkett Smith is an extremely toxic person by all accounts, she openly cheated on Will and then bullied him into agreeing to an 'open' marriage. Who knows what goes on behind the scenes. It doesnt justify assult but that was clearly things coming to a boiling point for Will. I hope things get better for him soon and he gets the hell out of such a toxic relationship, because he comes across as a genuinly lovely guy.
"Ignorance should be responded to with education" well said, X.
It's never ok to joke about a symptom of a medical condition. Smith should have said something, but not attack.
He was supposed to know about everyones medical condition?
@@LeonardoPLK I really doubt he didn’t know though, I personally believe you can joke about everything but I don’t think pulling the ignorance card is going to work. The other jokes he made were meta so he obviously lightly researched each person- and her Instagram is full of alopecia awareness stuff.
Very well put. One thing to note about this was it was the first thing we talked about in the office, my IRL friends group chat, AND discord group chats etc. It wasn't just an internet thing, it's just a shame the internet can't have a casual watercooler conversation and discuss different takes the same way you can IRL.
I love how your opinion is always so wise and collected Xisuma, I tend to be a bit more passionate with my thoughts sometimes(not on this exact topic ofc) and listening to you makes me just go "huh, I'm learning so much from this attitude"
I like hearing you discuss these! I love reasonable, level-headed discussion. :)
i forgot Xisuma is living in the same universe with Will Smith and Chris Rock
Hadn't actually heard about it because I don't follow celebrity news, but good for the slapped one to take it like a champ and not further escalate the situation.
I really think now that it was planned because now everyone is talking about the oscar
No, it definitely wasn't.
Look at Will's reaction after he sat back down
Thats not a great line of logic
Hi xisuma or is this evil x?
@@DeadlyAlpha I know, but remember that he is an actor. And a good one. I’m not saying that it was planned, I’m only saying that it could
@@xisumavoid yeah, probably, it’s just that as far as I know oscar was losing popularity over the years and suddenly I wake up one morning and everyone is talking about what happened at last oscar
Thanks x, my thoughts are close to yours, though I’m a bit disturbed by the people who think it was okay to hit someone because they annoyed your wife. It’s not okay. You can tell them off, but no violence. The world is violent enough. It wasn’t protecting her, it was getting unequal revenge. That’s my take.
I understand & agree with your thoughts. I can’t help but think there was way more to it than we know to make him that upset with someone he knew & worked with many times. That is the sad part. What in their past caused such a violent reaction for him to jeopardize his career & friendships over what we think was so trivial?
It's clearly not ok, but it's also not ok that people keep reducing it to an annoyance
Chris has made mean jokes about her before, and not just once. It's annoying, it's even harassing at this point. Yes, Will shouldn't have done that but people NEED to understand it IS NOT OK to go around making fun of people.
To some people certain jokes can be more of a violence than physical aggression. It's all a shame becuase WIll is the only one getting screwed over it
@@Booklat1 i honestly think something is wrong with will smith, maybe exhaustion or a break down. I’m not a Hollywood expert and try hard not to be but I’ve never heard that he was a guy with this kind of short fuse. I feel bad about the whole thing. This should have been his night. I also think jada would have more to complain about if rock had been making fun of her the whole night instead of one stupid joke that deserved a roll of her eyes and probably not much more. I appreciate your point though. There probably is a lot more to this story.
good take. love to hear it. I hope Will face repercussions for his actions
Speaking of ignorance, I just stumbled on this channel, and I'm not going to lie, until 10 minutes ago, I didn't think any of the hermit craft members had much of a care for social/political behaviors. The one thing I will disagree with is the "ignorance should be responded by education" Although that would be good if it worked like that, I'm sure we all know plenty of people that if God came down and told them they're wrong, they'd still disagree. Productive conversations are a rare thing that shouldn't be.
There is one thing I think about. Chris Rock could press charges of course. But I’m sure he knows, that he’d be called a b*tch or whatever for doing so. He doesn’t need money obviously so no reason to try and get money out of Will Smith. Also, Chris Rock looks better coming out of it because he just takes it like a champ. I think they should both just apologize as Will Smith kind of did and that’s that.
If the joke was made about a man going bald, there would have been no reaction.
Double standards here are disgusting
I appreciate that you take time to talk about these kinda issues. And try to teach your viewers about internet culture.
I think some additional context would be that Chris Rock follows his joke with "that was a nice one", possibly implying that there were harsher jokes he could have made about their "open relationship". This could have been what triggered the reaction from Will, but it's impossible to tell because the camera cuts to Rock at the point Will was laughing at the G.I. Jane joke and Jada stone-faced.
I knew you would say something along the lines of "violence is never the answer" and, well, I was right. Great discussion as always :)
but then he doubled down on the progressive woke shit.
im having a hard time in my life right now. i feel like im failing in everything i do. i know everyone goes through it... the supposed helpers at my school just pushed me away and watching you talk about things that actually make sense are really helping me being a better person with how i think and act. Thanks xisuma, and i know that you are a valued person in many people's life. :D
I can relate. I hope you are doing well. We all fall now and again, it’s how we are able to find our way back up that counts
I hope everything goes okay ❤
Stay strong old boy, school days will soon be over :)
Thank you guys so much. I know that so many people go through it but i can't help the feeling that I'll always be alone
School is tough... my school is very expecting of all heir students and sometimes I feel like I should just quit. But knowing that there are other people going through it and that somewhere people will help and understand really helps :)
Absolutely well said X , you are very thoughtful and professional , real inspirational
That was a light-hearted joke. GI Jane could be considered a Empowering compared to every other joke at their expense and her health condition is not fatal, it's closer to or pretty much a cosmetic condition. And where the fuck was her eye roll when people were making entanglement jokes and where was his aggression when that was happening? Defending his wife's honor would be a lot more understandable if he had that same energy with everyone but now it just looks like he picked a easy target
I love both the Minecraft and personal commentary. No one can call you a head with a mic! 🤣
Nobody has been watching the Oscar's and now everyone is talking about what transpired during the show. Mission: Staged Outburst was a success.
My opinion before watching the video:
Both men in the wrong. Rock shouldn't have joked about a sensitive topic, but dealt with it well. Smith shouldn't have reacted like that, although standing up for his wife is admirable to a certain degree.
My opinion after watching the video:
The same. Good point about violence not being the answer to anything 👍 Always love to hear your take X
Agreed
I agree, but I also feel people can make mistakes even people in the spotlight. As far as I know Chris doesn't make fun of people with health issues and Will doesn't go around slapping or hitting people. Hopefully everyone can step back and make this a learning opportunity for both sides. Peace ✌️
I disagree, the Oscars are always (or almost always) a roast of the celebrities. Chris Rock taking the mickey out of Jada is par for the course. He did nothing wrong
@@LordOfRandomness13 So if Jada had cancer or dealing with alcoholism it would be just par for the course if Chris made a joke about it? Hmm interesting take you seem to have which I agree to disagree with you, but your entitled to your opinion.
@@syergo if she was constantly downing alcohol in front of the stage then yes. If she shaved her head because of the cancer treatment, looking like she does now, then yes. He isn't making a joke about the illness but the look she has at the moment. Go back and watch any other award shows, they mock every celeb over the smallest thing. Watch when Rickie Gervais hosted and called everyone out on their bullshit.
I think a lot of the reaction to the event is warped by the fact they were well known people in a “controlled environment”. It makes it harder to look at it as “an audience member hit a comedian because of a joke he made”. It’s easier to see it as two people in your friend group that had a fight. Partly because of parasocial relationships, perhaps.
I agree that saying he was justified because he was defending his wife isn’t a good reason and not progressive at all. But it’s a very entrenched trope hence why people find it appealing.
I just thought it was quite funny (or embarrassing if I’m being serious) that after 30 years, he finally won an Oscar and literally nobody cares because of the way he handled himself. The joke may have been insensitive or ignorant but that is irrelevant in the context of his response. Will Smith has tarnished his image of a likeable, charismatic guy. However, I can’t see him having any substantial drop in popularity because people liked him before and they will continue to do so by either justifying what he did or moving on and forgetting
At the end of the day, Chris Rock tickets are through the roof and he makin' bank, and Will Smith is probably gonna have to give the Hubbardites a lot of money for that Xenon extraction...
X's moral compass... It's always pointing in the right direction. It's why I appreciate him and his content so much!
Totally with you on this - pretty much all of it. Be it the toxicity of "discussions" on Twitter or on how a reaction being totally comprehensible doesn't automatically legitimate or justify it.
I stand by that violence is always the last resort of someone who is otherwise helpless. Not judging on a general basis on why that person is helpless. There can be many reasons for that, some of them really dishonourable, some maybe understandable, but violence MUST always be the very last resort and by no means an accepted way of going into discourse, no matter how "good" or bad the reason for it is, else we have way more severe problems than differing views.
Gonna be real I don't care much. I don't know those people I don't need to concern myself with something people will forget in 2 months
Do you mean you don't know them *personally* ... or don't know *about* them?
@@DeadlyAlpha honestly I barely know any celebrities, I only know Will Smith from TH-cam Rewind lol. Chris Rock on the otherhand, I've just heard about him today.
And to answer your question, they probably meant personally.
So well said X. I like the saying. Be kind always… because you don’t know what people are going through
I understand how it is difficult for us as white people (and especially non-american white people) to realise the race element in this conversation. I am someone who has worked with a lot of black women and understands, to an extent, historical context relating to black women and their hair. Black women in slavery were forcibly shaven and dehumanised for their hair texture, and even in present day, natural hair is discriminated against in schools and the workplace. Hair was and still is culturally very important to black communities in a way that it isn't in white communities, and this of course is exemplified in countries like America where segregation is still recent history. Women's hair is also tied to concepts of femininity, and since black women have been repeatedly throughout history wrongfully viewed as 'less feminine' and 'more masculine' by oppressors this is also relevant.
I think it is also worth considering the way black men are portrayed in media in relation to violence, but since this is a topic I'm much less educated about I can't speak on it. I do agree that the disproportionate and extreme reactions on twitter and other platforms aren't helpful, and that Chris Rock likely wasn't being malicious in his intent.
Definitely not the time in the world to teach that violence is the first solution.
Very good video
I wholeheartedly agree that very few words are to be responded to with violence and these weren't them. Moreover I think Jim Carrey put it quite well - the people who were to be awarded for their contribution to cinema that night had had their spotlight stolen; their big night will forever be known as the 'time of the Smith-Rock incident'. On the other hand I'm pretty bummed out that the whole world seemed to stop turning because of a celebrity blunder but hey, such is life I guess - I just hope at least some of us learn something valuable from it. Thanks for being the voice of reason as always, X!
Xisumavoid makes videos about everything!!!! :)
My take is that I don’t agree with what he did, but I do understand it, and I think that other celebs who are now mocking him still are just being mean for no reason when he showed he didn’t take kindly to it.
it wouldn't be as bad if he wasn't laughing at the joke first, if it wasn't for that I'd agree wholeheartedly.
Him being a celebrity is the only reason he wasn’t arrested
a lot of celebrities will jump on easy prey
100% agree with you. Thanks👍👍
I don't agree with the violent response however I don't think handling it back stage or later would be good either. I feel like with a little more control and thought Will would have realized that maybe the better thing to do would be to go up there and ask for the microphone, which I'm pretty sure he would be allowed to do if he could get away with slapping him, and then make a statement that they do not appreciate jokes about his wife's illness. I'm sure he would not only be seen as chivalrous but it would also put the embarrassment of the situation on the host rather than him.
Let’s be honest, it’s all fake. This fake, “drama,” is the only reason anyone’s talked about the Oscars in years, never mind watched it. It’s a desperate attempt to remind people that it exists.
Honestly the last time I remember people talking about the oscars is when Leonardo DiCaprio won one.
This is sure a good way to deal with negative energy from news you cannot ignore. And for us, it is a way more calm and rational discussion this way, then all the sensation social and shownews media gives us.
When Will Smith shouted it was so dam loud I had to my throw my ear pods acrose the room 😂
The Smith slap pales in comparison to the very evil people that still have Oscars
as ricky gervais said. stop asking the average person
I 100% agree wit you Shaswamy ! love how you keep it calm and rational. and not screaming your opinion for 10 mins
thank you so much
I watch this instead of the news.
it looked like a slap stick skit at first, it took me re watching it 5 time's to realize it wasn't a slap stick.
I guess 'GI Jane 2' is cancelled, but it looks like Will Smith is prepping for a sequel to 'Ali'... #TheSlappening
I think that part of Will Smith's overreaction is that he was actually shown laughing at the joke just after it was told, He probably then either saw his wife's reaction or she saw him laughing and then his mood obviously changed. I think that whole thing of him marching up there and slapping Chris Rock was him overcompensating for that.
The other thing I think should be added is that had Will Smith stayed quiet and dealt with it later, that joke would have gone unnoticed. Since he decided to get up there and slap Chris, he's made sure the whole world will not only see him slap Chris Rock, but also that everyone will hear that joke about his wife. My response would have been to walk out of the auditorium with my wife to show my displeasure with dignity and grace, but that's just my take.
So true. Just goes to show that Will is unhinged and clearly out of touch that he thinks hitting someone on live television is the appropriate response
I didn't expect to hear Xisuma's take on this but giving insite to his mostly younger audience is great
Theres this social commentator/educator named FD signifier who went over this subject in remarkable depth looking at the life of Will and some cultural effects. He carries a very insightful, chill and compassionate conversation.
On the race topic he brings it up more to point out how will has had a difficult life and has been under pressure for years for choosing to be more soft spoken in the past and not assertive and aggressive. it likely has influenced him to be very defensive and pressured to do something more substantial.
Outside of the racialized experience (as I am a white person), Alot of the factors Signifier brings up I have had personal experiences with in some form or another such as the pressure and hostility ive received for not being more intimidating or loudly defensive in past relationships.
Xisuma needs a podcast
what i heard at someones video (the poor mans podcast/youtube)
he has basically been mobbed to a quite on the edge state and this was the breach, the people doing that podcast also said itll be interesting to see if will smith will make another first of the month
I think the other party has to press charges to get arrested
Very well said 👏
Think before you act.
Violence is not the answer, NO excuses.
I agree that Will Smith was in the wrong, but so was Chris Rock. You can tell by how beforehand he says "you know i love you Jada" or something along those lines that he knows the joke is not appropriate yet he says it anyway. Plus making fun of someone's appearance in general is not great in a public place if you're not certain of the reaction.
This, so much this.
8:46 dang, Xisuma really be bringing Todorov's Narrative theory into this; it ends with a new equilibrium after the conflict is solved
Discourse on anything has purposely been made to be SO toxic in order to prevent the average person from coming to any conclusions counter to what the establishment wants you to believe,
that this reasonable take on the "incident" will later, probably cause problems with people trying to cancel you.
If I had any success with a TH-cam channel, I'd avoid any mention of real world events or anything that could be construed as a political opinion.
About the issue with race in this question, it is relevant. Black hair is an issue which is important in discussions around race and racism and has often targeted black women in particular, in fact Chris Rock himself has previously worked on a documentary about black hair which was in large part inspired by the issues his daughters had with body image troubles because of their black hair. This is why many members of black communities worldwide have come forward to criticise Rock's actions and stress that however disproportionate the response was (and obviously Smith's response was wildly inappropriate and disproportionate) it shouldn't be used to minimise Rock's actions or absolve him of blame from a massively loaded and inappropriate joke which shouldn't really be considered "light-hearted humour".
Think you would get those talk on spotify?
X, what EPL team do you support??
There are multiple angles of the slap. It was clearly two actors acting out a role. In the video (left angle clip) you see Rock bracing for the slap (shoulders and face) has full eye contact with Smith, does not take a defensive posture, he also keeps his hands at parade rest. Body language is everything. Rock knew the slap was coming and the video clearly shows it.
But I’m not into celebrity worship so I don’t care either way. I’m just calling out BS when I see it...and we all know Hollywood is full of it.
Thx for sharing.
I’m sure you can find the video I’m referring with a quick search.
"parade rest"?
Nah.
That’s a good idea with the news diet, when Covid arrived I stopped watching the news as I’m an emotional individual and hearing about all those deaths effected my mental health and so I stopped watching tv and I actually don’t posses a tv now and my mental health is manageable most of the time.
Two actors on a stage make a play.
Hey X how about a video about the Heard v Depp case(s)?
I don't know about it but, professionals usually has, or at least asked for the permission from the one that they're gonna roast or make joke out of them
I found it interesting when it happened for the first few hours people where so dumb struck by the event that they couldn’t really form an opinion or have someone give them an opinion. And you could slowly watch the camps form and get heated
How I look at all situations like this in terms of fairness is I swap the people invovled with a variety of different people, if the outcome is the same no matter the person/race/gender or whatever, its fair. If it isnt the same in my head it isnt fair
I think Will Smith needs some sort of repercussion for this.
Repercussions for the human percussion!
Chris Rock was asked if he wanted to press charges, but decided not to.
I feel like Will Smith took it too seriously, Chris Rock just made a joke to add a "happy atmosphere" to the Oscars (in my opinion)
The one PNGtuber we can all appreciate.
Tbh, I think will should've just talked to Chris once the cams went off, it would've been the more mature way to do things tbh :/
I think you have a good take on this issue.
Wait... does anyone know which team Xisuma supports in the Prem?? I feel like we would be an Arsenal fan for some reason...
Have been having a hard time over the last few weeks and have avoided this Wil Smith thing. Glad I came to you to see what happened. Plus I agree with you. I stay away from the news. It is 99% negative and I have been doing my best to stay away from TH-cam content that talk about the news. This is why Minecraft and Service like Hermitcraft are good. I can choose who I watch and if I’m not feeling it, save the videos for later. I am big on voices and those who have different accents then myself are always interesting to listen to. Which is why Hermitcraft is so great. So many people from different places. Even the English people like yourself have different accents.
X your a wise man, this is exactly how i thought about the whole thing my self
I think it's pretty straight forward to me that Will Smith shouldn't have gotten up and smacked Chris Rock. I'm a firm believer that words are NOT violence. Even if very offensive.
That's doesn't mean you shouldn't defend yourself against offensive jokes. If you can, respond with an even better joke. If you can't, there are still better ways of responding, including making a statement, asking for an apology, or simply leaving (in paparazzi world, that's a pretty serious thing to do, especially if you go on to win an Oscar!).
However, as X has said, more interesting to me is the response to what Will Smith did.
Loads of hypocrisy came out of the mouths of people who normally advocate violence against political opponents like "beat up Trump supporters" (and vice versa). And there were also those who condemned Will Smith that themselves have advocated imprisoning or fining or charging those that have made offensive jokes. While America may protect your 1st amendment rights, citizens of the UK and Canada have been fined and in some cases imprisoned for offensive jokes.
As I said before, I'm a firm believer in free speech. I don't believe anyone should be assaulted or fined or imprisoned for what they say, short of longstanding exceptions such as inciting violence, shouting fire in a crowded theatre, and libel/defamation.
In other words, if you're offended, there are better ways to respond than hitting someone or fines and prison.
It just bothers me when people are hypocritical about these things. Pick a lane. Is punching a comedian okay or not? I say not. But some people say, depends on the joke, which is pretty arbitrary.
I agree. I get really annoyed with hypocritical people. I think they don't truly believe what they're saying and are only taking that side because it benefits them at the moment. Either that, or they don't know what they're talking about and lack conviction.
Also, I feel like the "it depends" people really just mean that they should be the one to decide when the action is right or wrong. Which is not how laws should work.
Was waiting when this video would drop out ...also if one were to consider about race and color in this situation, doing so wouldn't matter much as this wasn't " I hate you gonna slap you " situation but it was "I am hot headed and chose violence" kind of thing.
The oscars academy It was Sunday March 27th not Monday because I saw it yesterday on twitter but Will Smith did apologize to everyone at the Oscars and he apologized to Chris Rock too on Instagram
this gives me vibes of history class
xisuma best history teacher
In school for film right now and the big take away my professors brought to us was that this more than anything puts the Williams sisters in a really awkward position with Will Smith acknowledging and incorporating this into his acceptance speech. The responsibility of an actor to be aware of the people they represent or are associated with outside the industry is the big thing imo. Makes the film industry look really bad.
I think I will get all my news from x