VW Mk7 GTI Cobb Stage 1 Tune Review & Dyno
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Stay tuned for MAPerformance custom OTS Stage 1 tune!
Episode 1: • Mk7 VW GTI | Bolt-Ons ...
With the COBB MK7 GTI Accessport, you'll get simple GTI ECU flashing and gauge package! The new in-cabin mountable Golf GTI (Mk7) Accessport V3 has a large, full color, higher resolution screen which allows you to monitor up to six parameters in real time.
The MK7 is a very underestimated car. I love mine and can't wait to get a stage 2 clutch and start tuning.
WHENZLUNCH yooooooooo!! love your vids man
Codylee Steffens thanks for the support
WHENZLUNCH how Mitch does a stage 2 clutch cost?
WHENZLUNCH did you have to get a new clutch for stage 1 ?
Jacob Mccoy you don’t. For the DSG you have nothing to worry about under stage 3. For the manual gearbox, usually stage two lasts quite a while on the stock clutch. It’s a big debate. Mine lasted 37000 miles at apr stage 2+ with a TCU stage 2 tune as well. Once it started slipping I upgraded it. I was at 327hp and 413tq at the wheels.
5:58 "I love this car!!.... WEEEEEEE!! " I'm getting a Cobb AP for sure now
I test drove a fiesta st today, and right after that jumped into a golf gti. Im in love with the golf dude. I cant help it, one day it shall be mine
Those vehicles are in totally different price ranges, of course the GTI is awesome compared to the sporty hatchback youth-oriented car.
In my management class they had a chart and a couple pages about how to make a purchasing decision. It used cars as an example and the golf won. Just the best middle ground on so many points. Economical comfortable and sporty. Cheap to insure reliable great fuel economy huge boot and able to hual the family and the dog.
I just bought a mk7 autobahn with performance package. Flying to Florida to drive it back later this week. Cant wait to start with the mods. Excellent video,, thanks for sharing.
Congrats! We have a bunch of parts on our site for them!
5:50 the smile every turbo fan makes when they are able to get on it 😁
Appreciate the kind words on MK7 and agree 100% because have Porsche 997 and MK7 (w/ IS38 Turbo) and they are damn close on fun to drive.
I finally voided my warranty at 8k miles lol. I used to have the JB4 and was not happy with it and got my accesport. I'm currently using an OTS MAP from Cobb, stage 2. Big difference. So much fun to drive. I am getting a dyno tune by Nishan this Saturday, I cannot wait
Thats a big step! Into the void you go, you won't regret it. Let us know if we can help further into the void ;]
I wouldn't worry everything else is built up to golf r or Audi s3 levels which are up to 400hp I think. The trans is rated to 400tq for a dsg stock.
I bought my 2017 MK7 GTI S, manual, last year with 18,000 miles on it. The car was a lease return and it's my daily driver. I am in love with it. It is an awesome car. I am planning to install the Cobb tune, even though the car is flawless as it is. Great video thanks for the info.
Thanks for watching! Enjoy the car!
How has your experience been with the Cobb tune? Has it been safe?
did you need an upgraded clutch?
Yes and yes go eqt if you want a reliable tune
EA888 is a great engine.
Love my mk7. Going to get a stage 1 soon.
Stable at 12 MPH you say? OK, you have my attention.
Jacob Frey lol what do that even mean?!
either its a joe-biden-grade-gaffe or a reference to "turbo spooled at 12mph and crashed" circa 2004 from NASIOC
LMAO!
For you drivers who don't know rev limiters only work on upshift not downshift,so if you drop a gear too low you will blow up motor with an over rev.
Just bought my 2017 mk7 Autobahn... In my eyes- an upgrade from a 2009 STI. Love my GTI, by-by STI!
steve macqueen the interior quality is amazing. And the car is insanely large on the inside. Can fit 2-3 full sized bicycles on the inside with tires on. Fit a whole oven in it! A set of rims and tires for my fox body.
@@dominick253 right? Even my friends who doesn't know anything about the gti were like. "Why did you buy a decently big car?" It looks small outside but spacious inside.
Damn you just about sold me on COBB.
Excellent review. Looking forward to the pro tuned numbers. subscribed!
Glad to have you! That video should be out very soon.
I'm trading in my 2014 focus ST for a MK7 GTI later this year , probably a SE or Autobaun trim
traded mine in last week! You wont regret it.
get the autobahn trim, and manual trans. the DSG's good but very boring to drive day to day.
Haha, different strokes. I think the exact opposite for the DSG. I think it's perfect for the day to day drive. I didn't like the very long gears in the manual trans. If they were as short as the DSG though, then I'd have bought it this time (my mk6 was DSG as well, but all of the others were manual before then).
I especially love the ability to drive it hard whenever I feel like driving, and being able to pop it over into commute mode so I can just creep through the traffic with minimal effort (or those drives that you really just don't feel like it lol). Both are very good options though, and I'd have been happy with either one if I couldn't have found the other for a reasonable price.
Pound for pound, I don't think there is another car out there (new) that you can buy that's a better all around car. The Focus ST is probably 2nd spot in this for me after spending significant time living with both.
TheMetalGuy852 The Focus ST has a lot of issues , I got one of those with the wiring harness problem which fucks with all kinds of driveablity issues , the PVC system is terrible u have to physically clean your intake valves every 3,000 miles cause the oil and carbon will start to cake up on the valve stem. Then right when the 36000 mile. warranty was up I started getting a random misfire code and that was the final straw.
I ended up trading it in for a 2016 GTI Autobahn w/pp DSG and it's been great , I was going to get a stick but they say the clutch won't hold up very long after a tune. The DSG is nice and it's faster than my ST , plus feels a lot lighter than the ST too, and the GTI is definitely a better all around car ... and we all the performance potential.
T Honzo I've had the gti 2 weeks now and it's great much better than the ST.
So VW rated the car at 210-220hp at the crank and it makes over 228 at the wheels stock? Damn thats great. That means its over 250hp at the crank right?
Dyno is just relative so
LeeROBD stock dyno says 264bhp
Yeah mazdaspeed3 says 263hp and makes about 230 at the wheels, stock. Most stock gti dyno I see are about the same. You lose like 15% from crank to wheels.
@@sonofnothing I see the opposite.
@@TeeWadeG gti stock dyno is about 230. Same as mazdaspeed3. It's the opposite because the vw underates their hp. Correct. But the whp is the same.
Wonder how much faster 0-60 and quarter mile times get with the Stage 1 tune. Love the GTI
Just ordered your intake/accessport combo along with a battery charger! Ship it out fast please!!!!!!
We gotchu Matt! should be on its way very soon.
MAPerformance haha thanks!
Thanks for this video man, I have a Vw golf GTI autobahn I would love to flash wit Cobb and take it to cayuga race track for testing oh going to be first time on the track Save me Jesus!
Thanks for watching!!
5:10 Duluth, my most favourite spot in Minnesota! (Lived in MN for 4 years)
Good eye!!
That smile on your face says everything lol
I bought a MK7.5 after watching this :)
"Save me Jesus!!" Lol , I'm crying 😂
Even more impressive is the COBB DSG Tune that you can install along with it. No mods and my GTI is a beast! Plus, I can return it to bone stock anytime...
Glad to hear you are loving it Brian! What's next??
@@maperformance Tires! Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's going on tomorrow (spacers and stud conversion kit installed yesterday) and then tint next week. Then, we'll see... CAI perhaps?
Sounds like a good progression! Let us know if we can help.
Brian Copeland does the Cobb at include the pro tune
@@cbfa1 Just the off-the-shelf tunes. If you buy from MAPerformance, they'll include their ECU tune, which looks like has had a lot of thought put into it.
sounds like this tune is super conservative, which is good if you're on a stock clutch, but there's some cars on APR with an upgraded clutch putting down 305ish hp and 345ish tq on stage 1
I miss my 2012 gti
1:53 had me dying 😂😂😂
Small complaint. I hate in review videos when people say things like "the acceleration is brutal"
No.... its not. It doesnt even make 300whp. So lets be realistic. While the mk7 is fine for what it is, lets all realize that its actually slow as hell. I sold my stage 2 M4 for my GTI until the market comes down for something cheap and I legit thought something was wrong with it when I first bought it cause it was so damn slow. Even my M4 was slow in stock form.
Im going to do this
The HP power band is approx 25+/- above what it is above stock. The torque is about the same as that increase as well percentage wise. It is a negligable gain that is more psychologically noticeable than actually noticeable. With the DSG tuning, I would say that that difference in gear shifting keeps the engine at the "meat & potatoes" of the power band more so than the improved HP alone is doing. The AP units are now just over $1K (US) now....I would just opt for a Mishimoto IC and call it a day, just to replace the standard Tube/Fin IC. This way, you can stay out of heat soak when you really want to push it.
Without a doubt the biggest difference with tuned vs stock is the smoothness of the engine response, no more lurching off idle or between gears
lmao i own a mk7 gti 2 dr and its a LOT of fun at "12+ miles per hour lol
Feel super lucky to live in Europe where we can get access to the Seat Leon Cupra which is basically a FWD Golf R with the GTI PP's diff and a sexier body style than the GTI, all for the same £ as the GTI. All you guys in the US check it out and tell me what you think.
Guys check out MK7 YVM he has the stage 2 APR
"WEEeeeeeeee" 100% for the gti
also, would you recommend this or the racechip? fantastic video too
very good video thanks
Cool video!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Always advisble to ride map in after map selection for bou 6-10km before hitting it hard...Got a mazda 3 mps, GTX3076r, downpipe, internals, intake, stock zorst, EWG, TurboMani, seeing bou 402hp...Cobb is Boss...4th year goin
Get a freektune bitch!
And since you're saying mps, you're not from the USA. Contact Justin at freektune and let him tune your speed. The Cobb ots maps are doo doo.
"Help me Jesus!"
Awesome.
Craig Piotrowski help me Tom Cruise!
Help me Oprah Winnefree!
I got the access port too late I guess. I got upgrades: intake, IS38, downpipe, and exaust but then told I have to go custom tune...another $1k. I can't do that.
If I got my car to stage 1 with the Cobb tune will I have to worry about heat soak? Mk7 gti with DSG.
Does the stage 2 Cobb have burbles
I was deciding between a wrx and gti but this seems better. It has everything I want. I just don’t like those plaid seats that come with stock gti those are disgusting.
Brendan Fogel I thought the same thing but once you get in it it’s actually a nice accent too the interior
Bro does it feel u pushed back into the seat!!
Keep us up to date...I was having some emails with you a while back about trying to soften up the ride of a WRX. I've been looking at the GTI for about month now despite the 2018 WRX supposed softer ride. Gidget.
We should have our MAP Stage 1 video out very soon!
so you can stage 1 cobb tune the mk7 without any problems or without blowing anything up in the car motorwise? or do you need to be carefull doing thing like this?
No problems! This GTI has been daily driven for a few months now with no issues on the Cobb and the MAPerformance tune.
Thats amazing, thanks man! greetings from belgium!
Thanks Chesney! Feel free to give us a call or email and we would be happy to answer any other questions you have!
With the OTS stage 1, has it adjusted the dsg as well? Addressed delays?
The car is noticeably more snappy for sure!
I have a 2019 vw gti rabbit. Question is are you developing any thing for the cobb for my car?
jaminx2 what color did you get? I was stuck getting the white one but I’m happy as hell
My 2015 gti. All maintenance done regularly, the drivability sucks ass. My tuned and modded mk4 1.8t gets better gas mileage. I can’t wait to get a tune to fix the gas milage issue so it will be a good daily. 😂🤣
My guess is that they dont have a mk6 golf r COBB? I've tried looking for one but I don't think they make it for the mk6... i guess ill have to go with Integrated Engineering.
I thought you where supposed to leave the Cobb plugged in, but you took it off
It doesn't matter. Once the ecu is flashed, you're good. I rock mine, as I always monitor my knock, boost, bat, LTFT, and hpfp actual in my speed3.
with those power gains wouldn't a jb4 be a better option?
definitely! Moreover, with jb4 you won't have any problems with warranty.
Cobb tune is eh
Just saw your video amazing but I got a question I just bought a mk7 what is better a Cobb tune etc or taking it to a shop that does custom tunning for vws
Dang that’s sweet! Would you say this car is a better car to tune than the fa20 wrx’s?
100%
How does this affect the life of the car? I want to tune but also want my car to last a long time.
With the simple stage 1 tune your car will still last a very long time with proper maintenance etc etc.
Should you wait until engine break in to tune, or can you tune right away?
The tune won't hurt anything - but the engine break in is designed to help ensure the car is built properly and won't break down on you. So we would recommend waiting.
If flashing 93 octane mod, where in California can you find 93 octane gasoline?
is this reversible? will it void my warranty? thinking about buying the stage 1 power package from cobb.
You can go with an APR Stage 1+ which is warranty friendly.
@@nvllvoidxxx in what way is warranty compliant?
Get a jb4
Just bought a 2020 Tiguan and already have a Cobb Accessport Tuner I bought from you for a 2017 GTI (awesome by the way) do you have a tune available for the Tig?
Tiguan is awesome, we do not make any tunes for it, sorry Jorge!
Is there a 91 octane option?
Yes absolutely!
if my car is bone stock(NO Downpipe/ NO Intake) , and can i use cobb accessport?
Daniel Kim yes.
Shit you guys are in Minnesota! I’m just gonna drive down to pick up my Cobb AP. Any pros or cons to buying from you vs directly from Cobb?
We will all give you massive high fives if you come down! Also, the Accessport will come with our MAPerformance stage 1 tune as well.
this car is completely stock with just a tune?
Correct!
do you always have to connect to your car after you tune?
Have you guys had any problems with the clutch yet? I heard after a tune the clutch goes pretty quickly.
Kip James it's a DSG
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Thanks
Ken Prince the dsg has a sort of clutch to?.. :D isnt it more "breakable" after a tune?
Kip James clutch will always become an issue if it's stock. I bought the Cobb stage 1 and put in a normal spec 6 puck clutch that can handle 400lbs torque. No problems faster shift, better car.
How much does something like that run you? If you don't mind me asking.
Hi bro I wanted to tell you i bought the cobb v3 for my golf r 2015 but the problem is my car is WM so it's different than USA which is Usdm so my device has only stage 1 98 / 95 octane fuel and I want stage 2 so can you help me to have stage 2 in my device 🙏
I want to see the video installing fuel rail and injectors.... I'm waiting your video
If I'm currently unitronic stage 2 DSG and ECU tuned and want to switch to a COBB tuner such as MAP, can I keep the DSG tune from Uni and just get an ECU done by you? Also, when flashing, do I need to first remove my Uni ECU tune or can I just flash the new tune without issue?
Is it better than APR? And why?
Do you post on any vw forums so I can follow along? I actually had a 15 wrx with your protune and have moved on to a 17 gti sport. I followed the wrx threads on nasioc and I am looking to do the same with the gti.
Yes! We are on golfmk7.com
I have a 2019 gti se with manual will this help it? Is there anymore to add to the car for it
How long until Ian trades in his golf for a GTI?
Hopefully not long!!
Not going to happen ;)
Ian Peterson ok I guess you'll just have to focus 100% on that WRX!
LOL. Correct. But I am also making my 1.8T Golf a sleeper as well ;)
Soooo 17% increase in hp?? Cobb claims 26% increase. They always over promise and under deliver.
I am thinking about picking up the 2017 gti sport but it has push to start how do I flash on that?
Jae C you just press the push start and not hold it down. It will go to on/accessories or w/e it is called. Same thing for the fiesta st. Hope that helps you.
I get hella torque steer lmao with stage 2
You think that's a great daily you should try a mustang gt with the Coyote my brother has one far for fun then my mk7 gti
15 mpg in the city and not being able to drive the GT Mustang 5 months out of the year because of snow makes it a poor daily driver.
@@Jagivar he get the same mileage as me if not better plus more reliable and it won't be any worse then the gti in the winter I live in Maine I know snow
I'm def a fan of MAP but Cobb is what guys scared of a real ecu tune get.
why did you unplug it?
What is the recommendation for stage 1+ ? What mods do I need ?
Im pretty sure just an intake
Stage 2 is intake and downpipe and stage 0 is straight up stock setup.
Stage 1+ is generally just stock setup tuned for 93 octane and suggested cold air intake. Stage 1 is 91 octane, completely stock but cold air intake is fine.
how is the gti in snow ? I live in West Virginia and bought a 2016 wrx and it is still stock and I do love the car especially in the snow because we sometimes get quite a lot so I was looking into a golf r but still a bit to out of my price range and also I love manual idk if I could get a dsg even tho it is pretty flawless
The GTI isn't bad at all. Very light car with front wheel drive just floats right over it. Although, not as good as the WRX! We have had a pretty light winter in MN so hard to say with the GTI...
I've had no problems with either my mk7 GTi or my mk6 GLi in the snow/ice in Delaware. I run winter tires on my cars (which everyone should honestly do regardless of drive wheels if you have cold temps in winter), and they handle awesome in that weather, and there hasn't been a single thing to get me stuck. I've run both Bridgestone Blizzak tires and Hankook iCept Evo's to try them both out. The Blizzak being a strictly cold weather snow tire is better in the snow, but doesn't handle as well (NOT bad) when it's above 45-50 degrees. The Hankook tire was a winter performance tire meant to be stiffer compared to a traditional winter tire, so it does very well in the snow, but does exceptionally well when the temp does exceed 45-50 degrees.
Both tires are hilariously better than any all season or summer tire once the temps drop below 50 degrees for any length of time whether there is snow or not. :)
+Kamukix thanks for the response ! I've been heavily looking into it but my wrx only has 10k miles on it so I believe I'm going to order the accessport and intake through map and run it for awhile and see how I like it because I do love the looks of my car and do love hooning it in the snow
jetbike97 not a bad plan, they're very good cars, much better (except for the sound haha) than the previous models. I test drove the new model before I bought the GTi, and I think the WRX has come a very long way interior wise even though it's not nearly the VW level, it's still a MUCH better place to be than the 2013 which felt like I was still driving the 90's model with more power haha.
I wouldn't be sad if I were you, you've got a very good car, also I love that new steering wheel. It felt GREAT in my hands (the shape is more flat on the sides than the GTi and GLi which are also amazing wheels). I've got 35k on my GTi now and had just about 100k on my GLi. No issues, but I've never had issues with my cars anyway (had quite a few haha)
+Kamukix I really thought about getting a older wrx or sti but I read so much good and bad things about the ej motors and I liked the fact of the new fa motor with the twin scroll turbo I love vw interior and love hatches that's why I wanted a wrx hatch so bad if only they still made them because I'm so scared to buy a used Subaru I will own a golf r one day tho!
Hey! Im from around the twin cities and have a mk6. Can you guys tune without an Accessport or is it recommended?
Thanks for reaching out, we don't do custom tunes and only offer our OTS map for the Accessport.
It tunes the ECU & TCU?
Manual or die
How much did cobb pay you to sponsor them?
Actually nothing! We genuinely love this tune.
Cobb tunes are terrible for the mqb platform. Get a custom tune via the access port. Sneeky, eqt, moose etc.
What's item number Cobb
I've never owned a gti, I'm thinking about getting an mk7. So your supposed to upload the stage 1 with no supporting mods? Intake, down pipe, exhaust etc. I see everybody doing it with a stock car and it seems weird to me.
Correct! You don't start adding bolt-ons until Stage 2.
what's a good choice APR or cobb Im a novice, but I just bought a 2016 gti spot. Also any good info or blogs for beginners will be appreciated..
Unitronic with the cable you can flash and flash back to stock at home . Stage 1+ you could expect about 290whp and 330tq . Get the DSG tune as well if that's the gear box you have .
+walter spaulding thanks for the info, I was looking into JB1 witch I like because I can take the cables off whenever I take the car to VW for inspection. I read that any type of flash dose not revert to the original ECU and puts in its place a copy of the ECU. I'm still new, but very exited to be part of this
Omar Gonzales go apr... stage 1 91 file runs much higher numbers than others with great reliability. I have apr on both my cars.
why would anybody use this if you can get nearly 90 HP and TQ from an APR or Unitronic stage one
kawaiidesu oy vey because this is stage 1 and they have three stages that are all included in the Cobb accessport so you can simply click another tune and make more power
kawaiidesu oy vey Cobb offers protune ability plus it allows you to read and clear codes.
Forgot that you own the Accesport as well, when you tune with Uni or APR that money is gone.
I'm thinking about getting this for my mk7 only mod I did was get a borla exhaust system if I get this I just dont know what the best settings are any info from anybody will be appreciated
Give us a call or email: sales@maperformance.com 🤘
Where do you buy the Cobb accessport?
On our website, over the phone, email, any way you choose!
Do you have support for the 2017 MK7 GTI SE yet?
what mods are recommended for higher tuning stages. meaning if i wanna go for a higher tune what should i upgrade first
All the flow mods. Start with a short ram intake. NOT the Cobb because it is pricey. You can find a nice aluminum intake for ~350. A downpipe (cats nor not, depends on your state emissions) and bigger intercooler core. Get a pro tune and you'll be blown away.
What is the stage 2 tune. I is more than a new map on the tuner.
Stage 2 will be intake and downpipe
Are you in CO?
Nope! Minnesota!
I'm looking at a 17 GTI. Is there a tune for 91 oct? CA sucks like that.
Yupp! We offer both 91 and 93 tunes.
What about 92 tunes....Oregon's highest octane.
Weeeeeeeee
I have down pipe on my mk7 gti if i take this part it will work good ?
Yes, but you won't be taking full advantage of power, and you will get a CEL.
Any light burbles from the exhaust
A bit from stage 1, stage 2 might be something to consider!
@@maperformance What are power numbers and requirements for stage 2
@@trooper_f30 downpipe. Look at APRs website for power numbers