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- Foreign companies have become targets for China's sweeping counter-espionage laws. Multinational companies are complaining that China is becoming a hostile business environment as the security state's reach expands. China is also imposing increasing exit bans on foreign nationals.
The case of a Taiwanese businessman accused of espionage and stealing state secrets exemplifies conditions in Chinese detention.
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My friend who learned perfect Chinese and was writing a thesis about the Chinese legal system had to pack up and flee the country because espionage charges were leveled against him. Now without access to Chinese archives and libraries his thesis is dead and all his life plans are up in the air.
Your story is like many innocent Chinese who suffer as your in usa?. So fair and square?? Just blame all this problem onto usa unnatural ways of doing things??.. not mighty china??.. who just follows usa doings?...
It always was, just because you enter a snake's nest and didn't get bitten right away doesn't mean you aren't in danger
EU doesn't have such a law?
@@stvdmc2011quote from CCP official newspaper: do not use law as your shield.
You can always find snake dens outside China.
The snake returned to its old ways while it still could.
Ms Meng of Huawei was kidnapped and illegally detained by Canadian authorities without charge. And so were many Chinese scientists detained in the US .
No amount of money is worth your freedom. Time, if lost, is something you will never be able to buy.
Freedom is where Chinese scientists left America for good. Otherwise, FBI, NSA and CIA will go after them for espionage.
Well said. I wish more people would understand this. All over the west have lived in comfort and freedom for generations and have started to take things for granted. Somebody, somewhere paid our freedom with blood. We need to stop making deals with dictatorships.
Freedom of thought. Hope you can have it.
WHY ARE THEY COMPLAINING? THEY WANT DECOUPLING, RIGHT?
at least that's what they say...😂
if you want to help them do that, they complain.
Decoupling is a consequence of a hostile environment in China. Not that the west do not want to do business with the chinese, it is just that CCP makes it impossible.
Oh my goodness I'm absolutely shocked. I know that person! That's Morris Lee! We worked on some non-profit projects in the past. He is a genuine person.
Dear Mr. Lee
"Freedom is priceless" is the most important sentence you said!
Expecting freedom from a dictator is a contradiction.
spy😅
3 spies working for US were cought in around 3 months period, that's why china increase their anti spy effort.
'Freedom is the word we describe our slaves, they are free to die or worship our feet'
De Risk with the vassal states of the imperialists is a necessity. China and Russia must work together to pull out the teeth of the US starting from its lapdogs (Europe) first.
Europe is getting rich from China. Now China has realized that what it needs is a worthy trading partner and not a group of hypocritical countries like Europe
"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."
Oh. Really. Which company has comparable products as DJI? What about Huawei Mate60 6G phone?
@@yetao5801 translation "blah blah blah blah. I am from china."
@@yetao5801Chinese technology is a copy and they suck. Who states this, the people of China.
Neither of those are a big deal.@@yetao5801
When a Nation such as China announces they are your Adversary, Believe them.
For the USA at least, if the State Department issues a warning, and companies still persist in having their employess be in China, the company should be strictly liable for any detention. These companies send employees to China and when something happens, they go running to the US government to do something. Maybe they should have assessed the risk to the employees in addistion to the financial risks. Let the family can sue the company for being irresponsible.
That's why individual companies--and employees in companies--are reassessing business risks, not just countries. As the Taiwanese man aptly put it, no one wants to be forced to spend months or years of detention in the CCP's "democracy university."
What china is doing is illegal. And inhumane but its peanuts in the mad world we live in.
Corporation have used the US government for there benefit for over a hundred years.
I think you can sue if a travel advisory has been issued.
👏👏👏👏
So how many foreign citizens have been "arbitrarily" detained over the last couple years relative to the % of foreigners visiting the country?
Not agreeing with Chinese laws doesnt mean you are exempt from following them.
I see this as a win win. Decoupling is the end game
It's a political joke game
If my company asks me to travel to China I will simply refuse. I will quit rather than travel to China.
Don’t worry nobody is going to ask you that. You don’t have the skill
@@rbrb5275Skill to be slave of ccp?
You do business with a tyrant like Winnie the Pooh that’s on you
Investing your money in China was never a good idea. Ask Jack Ma 😢
Investing your money in China is the best idea, ask Tim Cook (Apple Inc)
What is wrong with Jack Ma?
Do you even know why Jack Ma was stopped from what he was doing?
Dont think you are matured enough to know adults politics
Excepy Jack got all his fortune FROM China.
Don't go to China. Isolated yourself. Refuse energy. Become poor. And stay poor. Good riddance for the world.
@@hkfoo3333 I didn't mean to offend you nor do I pretend to an expect in Chinese politics. I only comment on superficial issues as they pertain to China. In civilised world a famous man's disappearance world raise eyebrows
Could it be that economics are not a factor for Xi because he is preparing for something else? There are so many signs pointing into the direction of escalation...
Hmmm ... maybe going to avoid traveling to china for the immediate future even for leisure. Kind of scary.
It has always been, though several greedy companies decided that it's still worth to tolerate the ridiculous regulations and ip theft and smaller ones had to follow to keep up.
But with the negative aspects getting more and more obvious for everyone, the exodus will only speed up.
Good for China. It is high time that India follows China's lead and introduces strict counter-espionage laws and exit controls. India should also introduce mandatory death penalty for spies. Long Live India (including Nepal) and China (including Taiwan). God bless Germany (including Austria).
@@PrashantKumar-sr3tu Wow, you have absolutly no clue about anything you just said, have you?
Exit bans? Sounds so American.
Lead with principled morals and greed won't guide you.
@@PrashantKumar-sr3tu Yes, I agree that would convince Western investors to wake up and bring those jobs closer to home or to deserving democracies.
Murderous Modi is no better than his other BRICS partners.
The U.S needs to stop sending ppl there. You dont see Beijing sending ppl to the U.S?!
What multinational companies have made the complaint?
We must increase the rate of decoupling with China, no matter the cost. The time for spineless leadership or political correctness has long passed.
I’m sure EU will take care of the issue, by inviting Chinese to EU universities. Maybe some financial guarantee, if businesses will transfer some technology to China.
That’s what EU has done and are good at……
Sarcasm can occur….
There is nothing for EU to transfer to .
Now with China having 6 times more in STEM than US and EU combined , the place to be is China.
You live in the 19-20th century mate. Direction of technological flow and transfe4 has been reversing in many fields.
@@yetao5801
There is no reason for EU to help China by sharing knowledge and support China’s economy.
To me there never has been, just because of china being a communist rule.
And I’m old enough to remember remember my school teacher and her giving away Mao’s little red book….
I’ve seen how technology and knowledge was “exported” to China, getting supported by EU and local governments, even there was no reason to do so.
EU is done with China, they maid their bed. Now they must lie in it.
EU companies desperately need their market. Just ask the VW CEO why he has invested a billion dollars in setting up an EV research and development center in Anhui province China. Rather than in his own backyard.
When US or EU impose sanctions, it is called rule based order but anything China does is called arbitrary. Huawei CTO was detained for 2 yrs in Canada while in transit.
That’s because US and EU have representative forms of government.
Not mob style mafia no governments like the CCP
lol, because unlike Mr. Lee who is just an ordinary person, your Huawei princess, not only steal technologies, but also spy on other governments. And her so called detained = she gets to go out whenever she likes, just not flying back to China is bad, is vastly different from Mr. Lee, who possibly fear his organs might be going any second 🙄
Does a bear fart in the woods?
with Democrats in the USA...that would be a no.....only if they get paid from the communist Chinese
Yah!
All of this was learned from the United States and the European Union. Why do you have such double standards?
This is now. Imagine the CCP if China becomes no1.
im surprised they freed him
glad hes speaking out
Damnnnnn I could never imagine if I were detained😢
@@kennyforlove fr
Maybe people can finally get a hint and do business in another country. Even the Chinese seem to be strongly dropping the message now.
You tried and failed
Typical CCP
I don't get it is it surprising to see a foreign being arrested in another country.
Hey if u can arrest chinese . China can do same
My God, look at the details... The guy in the video was arrested for taking a picture of police in the streets. He was forced to admit to charges of espionage and once released, was prevented from leaving China for 2 years. Go to 8:47 to see.
Mr. Burns, speaking at a security conference in Colorado, was asked about the loss of the recruited Chinese and other agents that U.S. officials say began in 2010 and was caused by a combination of betrayal by a CIA officer and a breakdown in a clandestine communication system.
“We’ve made progress and we’re working very hard to make sure we have a very strong human intelligence capability to complement what we can acquire through other methods,” Mr. Burns said.
Is there video of this so called security conference in Colorado?
Do you know of a name of this so called CIA OFFICER?
@@marshalllapenta7656 Are you so lazy to look it up yourself? He gave you clues that can be easily searched. Its the Aspen Security Forum the CIA Director Burns spoke at. The treasonous CIA officer who leaked info to the Chinese was arrested 5 years ago. As many as 30 or more operatives working in China may have been found and executed. It was a devastating blow to the counter intelligence community not only for the U.S. but also other allies. If the operatives were Chinese citizens then it could mean their entire family and extended families might also be imprisoned and executed too regsrdless if they were innocent or had no knowledge. Stop being lazy.
Aspen security forum Williams burns stop deleting my comment YT
Compare to how they arrest hauwei CFO for 4 yrs. Ban & block over 1000 Chinese companies access to their market or doing business with them.😂😂😂
🙄 Huawei phones are not trustworthy, the same as most Chinese products.
Being logical is not part of their Western VALUES. To be fair they always do this but this time a country said No to them and that is shocking for them
优秀。他们脸都不红，更别说对比了。虚伪充斥着这样的媒体和部分人心里
U$A don't have moral lower limit.
Has anyone forgotten Ms. Meng safe detaintion in Canada for zero reason of security
Agreed
This is the kind of thing you do before you pressure executives to give you corporate secrets and/or gear up for war with Taiwan.
"On the agenda IS..."? Not "are".
There are over 1m Taiwanese working and doing business on the Mainland everyday but hey, the authorities decide to just pick a random guy to detain... Too funny.
Glad u find it so amusing
finding it impossible to compete with them huh
Traveling to China will soon be as stressful as traveling to North Korea. Time for businesses to completely pull out of China.
This coming from usa who arrested innocent people
WHAT is China afraid of ??? Why the turmoil ?
It's own people, discontented from stalled prosperity and a buildup of annoyances and abuses from the ruling Party.
Honestly, it’s very unbelievable.😂
The US started all this and now DW is blaming China. Ironic 😂😂
How to lose decades of progress and prosperity in a few years.
China: come here! And never leave!!!
Kinnap should be legalise following HW issue.
The same as Russia
美国🇺🇸啦……英国🇬🇧啦……德国🇩🇪啦……
How many Chinese has the American arrested in the last 3years
Not Even close to enough!
Or killed. Scientists and engineers in key tech fields.
Are you one of those old farts who complains to a police officer when they see a foreigner with a camera in China?
Why is DW not interviewing representatives of the CCP? It would be interesting to see what they have to say on why this I happening.
Only applicable to usa companies
We got no problem
Communists or Capitalists. One cant be both. If you try you will fail.
C'mon ! Isnt PRC.your best partner in business?😂😂😂😂😂
The only responsible statement the State Department could issue, “If you voluntarily travel to or send employees to China, N Korea, Russia…you alone bear the consequence, the State Department WILL NOT offer any assistance whenever you find yourself involuntarily invited to experience a quiet life inside a metal or concrete cage. So, go at your risk!”
I m confused, are those cameras on screen shooting this news or is there to give us some kind of a message.
Those are Chinese CCTV cameras. They make sure no one embarasses the fragile ego of Xinnie Pooh.
@@FunnyPhobos93😂😂😂😂😂你可以去英国伦敦看看，他们更多，你不会没钱去伦敦吧？你是残疾人吗？走不出家门看世界吗？
So only the EU can investigate Chinese companies
And China won't allow it? And why does every video about China show pictures of the PLA in the 80s?
What is your purpose?
Laughable accusation from a country of kidnapper
China the new turtle kingdom
Just don't go. Sorted.
Don't go to USA
@@JonySmith-bb4gx Tell it to the thousands of Chinese people immigrating illegally via Mexico
@@monkeeseemonkeedoo3745 I can tell thousand of military bases in 80 plus nations
Wanna play that game ? Bring back your military then talk about immigrants . I am Chinese American myself.
@@JonySmith-bb4gxSo what? You're the one who tries to tell people 'Dont go to USA', so tell it to the people from your country who risk their lives to go.
What game are you playing? I could tell you were Chinese, by the way, it's super obvious from what you write.
The title of the clip should be: Have DW Contracted Rabies by Being More and More Comical.
“Chinese born Americans who have both Chinese passports and American”….what is this guy talking about? This is your Chinese expert? Really? DW?
I thought there is no dual citizenship in China !
@@RobertoTorres-gi8vh go ask your guy Clifford…he’s the one deciding china’s dual citizenship policy
But Lebron James said to not criticize China!
MOre cameras??? Where will they find the room on those lamp posts.
Silly Jinnypig.
Someone tell the kid that his dad is a spy 😂😂😂
Are you sure he doesn't do nothing wrong ?
It's also a hostile tourist environment. China's anti foreigner policies and detainment should cause anyone thinking about traveling there a second thought.
"Hostage diplomacy".
Soft 1984 landing.
Source
They need to leave
"Becoming a hostile business environment". No. China was always a hostile business environment, because the terms under which most foreign companies could do business in China (submitting blueprints, IP, etc.) are conditions that would not be tolerated in western markets. That foreign companies accepted these conditions for the sake of profit is their own fault, but now they're crying foul and "expressing concern" when this grossly exploitative arrangement has merely become more transparent.
By the way, those same companies that fueled China's decades-long economic boom without tempering the totalitarian state with democratic soft power are also responsible for the increasing threat that China presents to Taiwan, in the South China Sea and even in space. Way to go, Apple!
It’s pure greed and power as well as political power!
所以一个极权国家的管理模式，通过压迫，可以全世界第二？？你是这么认为？？？？愚蠢至极。
im sorry about that as Chinese, plz note our country China with the US not that bad atm, the worst time was like when Trump was administration, 2 countries were like in the brink of cold war , our country is not having trade war with the US atm, you know not that much China vs US videos atm on TH-cam, im not sure if this news was true or not , I didn't see our country has necessary to against any business traveler
One must be crazy to travel to China these days. Or Russia. Or Iran.
There have been quite a few reports about a decline in the numbers of students studying Mandarin at American and European universities. Chinese language skills seem to be becoming less desirable as a part of a business career as decoupling gathers pace. There will be still some value for the diplomatic and intelligence careers however.
Starting to she says
sounds like another tid for tad like the guy mentioned about the two Michael.
Becoming?
If you do business with a savage thief and wonder he has stolen your assets.
前提是你要有资产，你一个裸奔的人，大家想看一眼都难。和别人一起说话，做事要时刻审视自己的不足，那样你才能找到正确位置。
Savage thieves were rhe west exactly,look at the colony around the worl
@@songnianzhang366 The time of colonization has been over for 100 years. The Las colonies regained their sovereignty 70 years ago. The world moves on and learns, only the Chinese don't. They still cry about the Opium Wars 200 years ago. But you are a country of thieves, now led by the lowest thieves, nothing what happened in the past is an excuse. You destroy the world and even steal organs. So you deserve to be called savage, barbaric thieves.
Canadians say, we told you so...
Solution: Decouple
This reporter is biased.
That DW Asian woman reporting on this story has been banned from going to China due to her anti-China attitudes and conspiracy theories so would it be considered balance reporting coming from her?
If you are complaining about China business environment, but Elon Musk , Tim Cook do not , high chance you are doing something wrong. Find a good CEO for China business.
That’s because Apple and Tesla are too big for China to lose.
"Im the one who become Hokage"
Perhatikanlah berita itu secara teliti!...
In China we bow down 🙇♂️ to Xi and we kiss his boot 👢. Before was British, now we bow down 🙇♂️ to Xi. Xi has magic power. Even gas release by Xi is holy.
很好 👍 Very good approach China 👍
I carry a US passport and I've been in China for 11 years. I have no fear of this. Sorry.
exactly...its crazy this media nowdays...seems like theres no more shame in their lies. If there would be legit bans we would see many cases for sure. they talk about very old and dubious cases like those 2 canadians.
- "I have no fear of this. Sorry."
I don't know what you are sorry for, but "I have no fear" and "will not happen" are not the same thing. It may of course be that you just aren't a notable enough person from the point of view of the Chinese government and because of that indeed safe.
You're right. I'm not an international business traveler and I'm not 'notable' so that's why I have no fear. @@adoatero5129
famous last words
Living abroad is not without risks, but a helluva lot cheaper.@@bullpup1337
Un día sin hablar mal de China es un día perdido. DW
Communist china is total BS
DW - I like the surveillance cameras backdrop you have there, put it up next time you “report” on the UK and US
The ones in China are intrusively obvious though. Other places make you make it more clear that you're searching for cameras when doing so.
@@doujinflip other places what?
Think about whether your own country has cyber sovereignty before criticizing China.
All countries spy on each other 🤪🤪🤪 !!
Hostile for what
6 4 89
Get out when you have time!
Ok another country I won’t go.
Real question is what isn't it hostile to. Maybe top ccp official?
Even then, it’s probably just a matter of time.
Businesses: let's do business in communist China!
Communist China: enacts communist legislation.
Businesses: pickahu face.
Uuuuhh yes.
Looks dangerous, by design.
Eastern Russians(ethnic Asians) were the first to be sent, if they were certain Eastern Russians.
If the last 5 years and still now isn't a genetic "cleansing" of Asia endeavor, I'll be very surprised.
It’s about risk vs returns. If you get 5% in US Bonds, 10% in S&P over a long term. How much risk are you prepared to take for that X factor in China? Given the risks. If the answer is you are prepared to risk your freedom and your employees freedom, congrats! Enjoy yourself. Don’t go crying to the US government if you do. You have been warned. Same with the EU. This is especially true for German companies. They seem to be more ‘risk embracing’.
There is no issue with the other countries but why US have ?
come on guys, can we have a bit more than anecdote and opinion. this is not a pro china post.l it's simply a complaint about media coverage that doesn't give any concrete facts like for example, how many people have been detained and the circumstances.
Talk about leading the interviewee... maybe don't interrupt and let your guest speak.
Philippines business individuals and groups should limited their business deals with chinese firms. No good comes with this chinese piranhas.
Is this a story to balance the “hostile environment” for asian people living in the United States? 😂
Retaliation time🫣😅.
🎵🎶🎵Bye bye American empire of Lies (Pies 🍪) LOL 😂😂😂
isn't U.S doing the 1st! my cousin works for a tech company in America because of the new law in America when he returned from China to United States, they was questioning him for weeks. I don't know the details. That's what I have heard from him.
If they were questioning him for so long, there's likely evidence that he was participating in some form of low key espionage.
@@doujinflip why because Americans are the good guys and the Chinese government are the bad guys? pray assume who is good and who is bad. The guy is good at mathematics, otherwise he just know how to eat chicken legs.
All of them learn from each other as Iranian congratulation to all us governments for showing such strong
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