Do Pressures Points Work for Self Defense?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ธ.ค. 2023
- Do pressure points work? I have personally felt many before and they are absolutely terrible. Today, Jerome Robinson from Team Robinson MMA is sharing his knowledge with us!
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Let me know if you think pressure points work or not!
Looks like they work, but I think you have to dominate technic and have the knowledge to apply them first.
Was that karate that you guys were doing?😅
I have used pressure points on the job, they do work in the right context and applied correctly.
I have used as well,the ones in arms work better than neck or body
Pressure points do work depending on the circumstances when to apply them and resistant you get from your opponent.
They definitely work. In karate specially where there are no blocks. But the king of pressure points has to be japanese ju-jitsu. Everything you've experienced in the video comes from JJJ.
He's absolutely right about pressure points - they USUALLY work. There are definitely exceptions. Love the choke defense - its like a modified nikyo wrist lock.
Yep, there are always exceptions!
Tasers USUALLY work. There are also exceptions where the individual just has higher tolerance 😅
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Shhhh. You can’t say that aikido techniques work in self defense scenarios.
@@divinesitcom9118 😅 Not even if I point out that they've personally saved my hide before?
That is one of the cardinal principles of martial arts: having a great knowledge of anatomy. Pressure points definitely fit the category.
Great point!
I love how he shows not the pressure point itself, but the situation in where you'd use it. I like that he shows the problem first, then the answer, then the common mistakes to avoid. Jerome is an awesome instructor, he made it all so easy to understand.
At our Shaolin Kung Fu school, we also call that index finger knuckle protruding from the fist, the "Phoenix Eye Fist." When its the middle finger knuckle, we call that the "Horse Fist"
Finally a no-BS teacher when it comes to pressure points. His explanations as to why sometimes they don't work are spot on! It is so tiresome to find a teacher like this and not end up with somebody like George Dillmann!
My 2 cents: stress! It let's you forget the easiest things and make the dumbest mistakes. So under stress the probability of successfully using this, shrinks. So in addition to this you also need to practise stress resiliance like in any martial art.
Agreed on your last point. Also with adrenaline pumping in a fight you lose small motor function and usually end up with a tightly clenched fist, hence it’s harder to pull off. I think a massive part of martial art training should be getting over that fear response and learning to stay as relaxed as possible to mitigate the tunnel vision, lack of fine motor skills etc
@@watts18269 exactly!
Man, I was so ready for some McDojo guy saying to use pressure points, but no, Jerome's breakdown was SPOT ON! Thank you. Great video and you got a new subscriber. After 40 years of military and law enforcement experience, I have had indepth experience in this. You guys did great!
Like George Dillman
This guy knows his stuff... J Robinson has real experience and knows stuff that really works! Great video!
Thank you!!
This was great. I have seen pressure point techniques in the past but it always seemed like you had to let them do it to you. The only people in my experience that were successful with it at all were cops doing pain compliance (similar with Aikido wrist locks). But always in conjunction with solid wrestling and striking techniques. Also Kevin has never looked smaller, Jerome is a lot of man.
I like the use of pressure points to break structure instead of necessarily inducing pure pain compliance.
If you have ever attempted to get someone to tap you are using pain compliance. That's well proven in ever fighting league that allows submissions.
The choke defense against the wall is inspired.
Very true!!
@@KevinLeeVlog i appreciate the parallels you draw with strikes or concepts from other disciplines.
You're questions are well reasoned and incisive as well. Thank you for exploring so many interesting disciplines and keeping it brutal and effective.
I wouldn't call most grappling submissions 'pain compliance'. They hurt for sure but people tap because of the risk of serious bodily injury if they don't. Broken arms, knee surgery, etc.
@@SuperCucko future pain compliance? I see it as the sparring mentality of tagging; you're not trying to knock each other out but even in medium intensity sparring there's an understanding of "coulda had me there".
Obviously you can't tap between strike and knockout but I'd be willing to bet most fighters would if given the chance. The "knockout" is just a step removed from the threat.
Check vs. Checkmate.
Hmm yea, it’s really something you wouldn’t expect as well. Its like testing for your knee reflex- it’s out of the persons control. Which in a match, can give you ample time to get into a better position.
Giving out these gems for free! Exact techniques and the concepts. Amazing stuff! Pressure points can work sometimes, but these base/structure attacks work all the time.
This was really imterestimg. I’ve been in the pressure points don’t work school for many years. This just shows that there are a lot of exceptions to any rule. Plus he’s such a clear teacher. Can’t wait to practice some of these with a partner. Thanks so much.
Learning the first example of the pressure point from Original Point Medicine for healing massages, its more painful if you actually have a medical problem, headaches, migraines, ear problem etc....
The guest instructor is really good! Very authoritative with clear explanations and demonstrations.
That first pressure point behind the earlobe, I learned in Shotokan when I was like 8yrs old. I rember trying out on friends smh it was like I stun gun. Some valuable takeaways...
Wow this popped up in my recommended and I was invested through the whole video. Excellent teaching and advice. Martial arts is so fascinating.
Pure gold🥇. Thank you
Great video. I learned some cool moves from it and I didnt know about the choke defense but it makes perfect sense.
I'm so happy to see another experienced martial artist who prefers open hand!
Wonderful video and breakdown, those points look awfully painful! Will definitely check out Jerome’s stuff!
I like what I'm hearing here. I like the decisions about escalation of force as is necessary, the prioritizing of the technique, and maybe mostly the deeper levels of understanding of what is happening and what tool is necessary for the situation.
That worlds fastest punch is so much like the higher concept of 'gwa charp' from buck sing choy lay fut. You're a legend Kevin. Love your work
Good stuff to practice and see take away what works best for you. Thx
Great stuff!
Great content on this channel.
Wow, so there’s a type of movement in a number of karate kata that I’ve been trying to figure out the real applications for. I know they’re supposed to be close range grappling techniques but haven’t been sure about them until I saw the standing knee bar/takedown at about the 9:30 mark in this video. Thanks y’all!
Can't go wrong with the ol' Phoenix Eye Fist. Here, have my subscription
Great knowledge and he breaks it down very well. Good instructor
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Excellent useful video! Anything that makes us focus on areas of vulnerability, soft targets, nerve clusters, etc. Is good in my book. If you plan to use them, make sure you know exactly how and where to use them. I have seen attempts at using them fail miserably 😂. I loved this guest, well done as usual. You have inspired me to teach an inside bicep pinch in my kids class on Monday, one of the worst things to teach, they destroy my arms 😂 Thanks for a great year of awesome videos! Looking forward to many more in 2024!
Thank you!!! I got some good stuff planned for 2024!!
Excellent video great execution and very practical application.
Glad you liked it!
Great video. That dude was awesome!
This would have to be the most useful self-defence video that I think I've ever seen. Thanks so much.
Glad you think so!
Pressure points don't end the fight, but they can open up space or give you an advantage for other techniques to end the fight. The issue is McDojo instructors that pretend that pressure points are fight enders. This instructor was very good
Great video guys!!
Thank you!
Absolutely stunning! The man is 100% right about the pressure points!
The technique with the thumb is awesome! Never thought on this before. But I think that's no real pressure point. It's just the hyperextension of the muscle in the thumb until the point where the joint give up. And that's a big advantage, because this will also work on persons who are normally unaffected by real pressure points.
Absolutely great content!
Wow.. great video boys.
Definitely an option. I always found pressure points are for getting a desired response, not an end goal. When I studied Hapkido, that was a small part of the art. And when I did BJJ it was fun to use those to help incite a reaction that would allow me to gain openings. Didn't always work, and you really need the advantage of big hands and a strong grip to truly get a lot of them(aside from the knuckle versions, but it still helps).
This channel is always beneficial
This guy was very good to help you understand the technique
That pressure point on the jaw you were talking about is very similar to what professional wrestlers used to do in the old days they would do pressure points stuff to other wrestlers and it works on some like you said but it depends if they know what they're doing they can you know try to resist obviously nowadays in wrestling they don't do that anymore but in the old days they did😊
Someone showed me that "standing knee bar" and I've been showing it to people but never knew what to call it.
I swear you could dislocate someone's knee with that if they don't do anything to adjust and or fall
We do similar technique in silat and Wing Chun as well!
@@KevinLeeVlog And what is it referred to as in those forms/arts?
@@KevinLeeVlog many techniques similar to Pak Mei as well - phoenix eye, bridge collapse, shin collapse etc.
The choke self defense was pretty cool. Striking the pressure points does require fine motor skills,which are out of the window during life threatning situations. The instructor does show how you can apply it in a practical way and carefully explains each technique. Great content!
Yes, very important shrug and tuck your chin down to counter many front choke techniques before executing your next movements!
Awesome content here
Very good!
Man, Jerome seems like an absolute badass 💪🏾
Love a good palm strike! Bas Ruten Highlight reels are great for that!
Nice defenses! This guy knows his stuff.
great vid
Thank you!!
I think it depends on what you mean by "pressure point". Like, it's not some mystical stuff where energy lines in your body cross or whatever. And it's not a point where you can punch and they will collapse or whatever.
But yeah, there are places on your body where you can dig in a finger and it hurts a lot. It's not just "points", it's sometimes wider areas. And I think that doesn't really match anything that traditional martial arts people consider pressure points
Jerome robinson is solid
This is the first pressure point demonstration I’ve seen that actually looks legit. What he showed here definitely works. Interestingly, a lot of the other self defense techniques he showed are reminiscent of traditional karate bunkai. It’s really cool to see similar principles in action across different styles.
My instructor called that first part of the choke defense the 'turtle shell maneuver'. It works against pretty much every choke, very handy.
I bet that thumb trick would be super useful in grappling sports but probably illegal.
It's definitely illegal in grappling. You either grab all or none of the fingers. Single digit manipulation is illegal in all grappling tournaments.
I really don't think Kevin wants to get hit by those big ass hands, even the palm strike look bad!! LOL That was a really good insight on a few Pressure points, I remember teaching some of those too when was an instructor. Cool Video as usual!
It really is a coin flip with pressure points if you're not going for vitals like the neck. They feel nasty on me but there's one really skinny guy in my wing chun class that barely flinches when you grab his points on his arms. Everyone's tolerance level is different. I'd only rely on them in a real pinch (no pun intended).
Very true, some people have high tolerance to pain.
Pressure points work great to create wiggle room during grappling or to cause a person discomfort so that you can exploit their reaction. If you know how they'll react you can cause them to squirm right into a trap.
I usually dont agree with “TH-cam gurus”, but this guy is actually pretty good. Very practical. 👍🏽
1st pain compliance move push towards the nose! Spike opponent as needed to keep their attention
Gotta "light Up" opponent arms (legs) as he gives them to you using fajin type Kyusho Jitsu strike/blow using minor (arms/legs) to major pressure point (organs head neck...) targeting. Use Small Circle Jujitsu (finger wrist joint locks) as needed along with any other brush-grab-strike delivery system
Very cool!
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Wow, self defense tricks that are useful. Don't see it too often. This guy seems like fun to learn from too.
In many cases, striking into pressure points can be very effective also. There are so many targets that people don't really know will perform an incapacitating move. I have often struck the rear of the elbow to temporarily numb the assailant's arm and take away one of their weapons. The most difficult situation is those who are intoxicated and I find it best to just get them on the ground and keep them there. If they try to stand up, just upset the balance or take down a knee. Just watch for their buddy Billy jo bob who hasn't had as much to drink or comes up behind/beside you unexpectedly. In my style, Sanchin Ryu Karate, we have several grab/hold on the arms as it is a very close in style designed for defense only.
Short answer.. Yes! In a real situation where you are defending yourself, the application comes within like the video described, holding or grappling.
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It depends on what we are talking about. There are no inmobilizing pressure points or instant K.O. pressure points (kinda, sorta), but there sure are ones that induce pain and that can be useful in a few situations.
I agree!
good stuff
I think a lot of people have the wrong idea about what so called pressure points are and what happens when you press them. They think it's gonna be like the Dim Mak, or a Vulcan neck pinch, or that thing Uma Thurman does to Bill in Kill Bill, but it's just a cluster of nerves that unexpectedly hurts real bad. You can't disable someone's legs or kill them outright by poking just the right spot, but you can cause them a lot of pain until they do what you want them to.
You can most certainly disable someone's leg. I know minimum 8 points out of my mind. Ah, 2 more, so we are at 10.The Vulcan neck pin is also easy: it is just not at the neck, but 6cm away behind your collar bone, hitting the Vagus nerve.
Most pressure points are not nerves, but bone skin, and muscles ends (arguable you could say you hit the nerve going into the muscle there).
Pressure point manipulation through joint locks and striking have always been apart of the martial arts. It has only begun to change since modern warfare and the industrial age. Now we hold on to 'do' or the way. And the 'martial' and the sharpness of the martial aspect is dulled. But the body and spirit and mind are still developed through the practice.
It's important that the martial aspects are not forgotten. I try to remember this always when I train Jujitsu and make my goal on bottom to protect my pressure points of my head and always work to get up.
I appreciate the instructors freedom of mind.
Very good stuff and practical ! Ancient Shaolin / Taoist reincarnation !
Very good techniques
Shout up from Kenpo in Anderson SC
It’s always good to twist out. Pressure points can only help.
The best pressure point I have found is hooking the jaw with four fingers and pressing the upper lip. Allows for a single hand application and the philtrum has a few different nerve groups. Makes for a fun party trick. As mentioned in the video does not work very well on someone who has had a lot to drink. I have tested that a few times :)
Lots of Gumbies out there too. Sorry to say lots of pain Compliance holds don't work as well. Always good to have a wall near by.
Now this stuff looks far more effective than what I'm used to seeing😮
Used to study small circle jujitsu. A martial art that works on pressure points. From that I’ve learned pressure points work if done correctly. They tried to teach “killing techniques” with small circle. Pressure points are a tool. Not the whole art
I was taught small circle when I worked security.
@@hugejackedman3447 once you fully drink the kool aid they start teaching no touch knock outs and double pressure points that can stop hearts and a bunch of weird stuff. But if you get great positioning first the basics work great
@@DannysComicCorner Yeah my thing is only people who have never experienced a real fight will actually fall for all that mystical "no touch" ⬇↘➡🅿bs. I *WISH* a fight could work like that!
Yeah! I'm gonna kick your ass today!
Not a chance! Take this! *HADOUKEN!!* 😂
Very interesting video. If you want to continue exploring the use of pressure points in self-defense/martial arts, contact someone who practices Shorinji Kempo. Most of their style is based around using pressure points. Also it is not very well known in the martial arts community.
Ohhhh!! That’s great info! Thank you so much!
Shhh , don’t tell everyone, geez 🙄
I love pressure points but I prefer to use pressure points as wedges and strikes as opposed to grabbing if that makes sense. I feel that's just faster and more instinctive. Great video nonetheless.
Where I’ve found the failure to be in most cases, is that people think that the know pressure points when they don’t.
He seems like a great instructor
I find Square Off to be the most effective posture break.
He seems like a very nice guy. 👍
this looks more useful than everything else ive seen
One of my teachers was so good at that pressure point on the arm. It would make you feel like you were getting tazered.😂 Great video. Oss!
That is awesome! My sifu does that to me too! 🤣🤣
I find pressure points work very well along with small joint manipulating on the ground. In most grappling situations people aren't protecting those nerves. And it's easier to get your hand on somebody's tricep one year on the ground. There's a particularly nasty one interior mid shin between the calf and the shin that I like to lean on.
So I was wrapping up my buddy one day on the mat. So he bit my thigh. I let him go. But my friend got into a real scuffle and the dude literally tried to bite a chub I out of his arm, but he didn’t let go. Because in real life, your life is on the line.
Love what see great self defiance
Jerome Robinson has demonstrated better Kung fu than most so called Kung fu masters that I have seen get their asses kicked on youtube. Everything he's taught is what we are supponsed to learn down from the Qi Na to the tempo and speed of striking, to trapping, looping and chaining attacks. I know its not Kung Fu he's teaching but they are similar principals.
This is what real Kung fu should look like.
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This video is gold
Pressure Points are like everything else, it's a tool in the box. Won't always work, sometimes will. Definitely worth knowing.
i like punch. learned to punch with relaxed but straight wrists, never have that problem anymore (also decades of knuckle conditioning)
The Ancient arts teach hitting in the Head for a reason. Its the quickest route to the Brain. HOWEVER, to make a hit without breaking your knuckles, requires at least 1 year of hitting the wall mounted Sandbag. You cant be putting on soft MMA gloves, and hitting a soft heavy bag... and somehow think... that your fists are Conditioned enough for REAL Combat.
One thing you Dont want to do, when delivering a Palmstrike... is to keep your fingers Spread out (as seen in this video). Keep them glued together at all times... otherwise, they could easily get caught on someones clothing, or limbs, as your are attempting the movement. When fingers are together, they act like a single braced unit... increasing the overall structural strength. Fingers that are not braced, are not only prone to hyper-extension... but also, to getting Jammed into themselves. A Jammed finger is one of the most painful injuries, that you can suffer, during a fight. Once it happens... even the smallest of vibrations that you feel on your body... will travel to the finger, and your eyes will be welling up with tears. You will barely be able to even defend yourself, due to the pains being suffered.
Now... Of course, Pressure points can work. The rare instances where they dont work... are from people whom may be freakishly muscular, or trained to endure an attack on that spot (Iron Body Conditioning). That said... Resisting "Even-Pressure" based attacks... is very different from heavy Impact based pressure point strikes. And the highest level of pressure point strikes, require Fajin (pronounced "fahh jinn" ...which translates into: "Explosive Power" ). With Masterclass level, short range explosive power generation... you can turn a finger strike... from a mildly painful event... into a Lethal interaction. At that point, its called "Dim Mak". While many people know the exact points to hit... most artists cant get reliable Dim Mak results... because they dont know, nor have never mastered, "Fajin" expression (which is a requirement, for that level of internally damaging results).
True Dim Mak, is not about mere Pain. At medium levels... It can cause so much internal tissue inflammation, that it causes a slow in bloodflow circulation. At higher levels of expression... it can cause internal ruptures. Sometimes, multiple targets are struck, to create an increased pressure build up... and make the circulation issues even greater... while also making it much harder to Reverse the effects. Even at lower levels... it can also do things like Over-Load your nervous system... making it almost impossible to breath for a while... and your brain temporarily shuts down, similar to an actual Stroke.
Awesome. Since training Kung Fu when I was young I've believed in pressure points working.
Does Jerome have a background in kung fu? So many traditional techniques that have been slightly tweaked for a modern combat situation. The "world's fastest punch" reminds me of Choy Li Fut strikes.
This reminds me of "tsubo" from Erik Paulson
Look the Grandmaster Evan Pantazi. He is one of the most famous Pressure Point Master.
Great instructor. I’d have to check you out when the wife and I visit. I study Jeet Kune Do. There’s a lot of similarities
The punch in the end is from the "drum technique" and was taught to the public by Mr. Miyagi in Karate Kid 2. 😊
What's your height btw Kev? I'm a bit under 5'7" (1m69). Would be interesting to see what you can propose for defense or counterattack against aggressive taller guys random or/and pro. In dojo or set of rules training ground it's difficult to counter height/weight when both are good fighters. In streetfight it's an other story.
Anyway nice lil interesting clip, wouldn't hurt to see more.
If you ever fought a much bigger kid, when you were young, and they grabbed a hold of you… unless you gave up, you’ve probably used pressure points to get yourself free lol. Just came natural to press, grab, hit whatever felt vulnerable lol. The problem is when you got free, but it just pissed them off EVEN MORE 😅😂
So true 🤣🤣🤣
Well, hello there. Here is the thing - this reminds me of aikido. Not in terms of the techniques themselves, but the way you apply them. All of the techniques you show will exclusively work on an opponent that is actually not trying to fight and just standing there, or a complete novice (not an athletic one). The reason is - none of your moves anticipate a counter.
The takedown when you apply pressure to the inside of the leg is basically a low single leg. The difference being - when you get on a low single, you rap your hands around the ankle of your opponent. This is done to prevent the opponent simply stepping back with the leg that is being attacked to avoid the pressure.
Similar thing with the r*pe choke defence - generally, it’s a smart thing you are doing with similar techniques existing in Judo and BJJ. However, the problem here is that you don’t get under your opponent’s weight when you preform the “toss” and there is no man alive that will be strong enough to hold 2 hands of a resisting person with just one hand. What will happe
n is the person who is performing the r*pe choke will simply pull his arms away when he starts feeling pressure from you turning. I know you can turn and drop fast, but trust me - pulling hands away when they feel like they are in trouble is an instinctual movement that is done much faster. You will end up turning and dropping without the hands secure, expose your back and find yourself in a worst predicament than before (you are completely right saying that flexing your traps and neck fully prevents the rape choke btw).
As for the pressure points - honestly, it’s a weird technique. Sure, it might work on some, but not a dedicated dude pumping ungodly amounts of adrenaline through his body during a fight - the person you should actually be concerned about during a confrontation. I’ve had my arm broken in half during a fight and didn’t feel much pain till my adrenaline started to wear off - it’s not a flex, it’s just the way the body works. The body prioritises surviving during a fight, not avoiding getting a bruise in a nasty area. Your opponent simply won’t feel enough pain during an actual fight to react in the desired way, even though the pain seems incredibly intense when it’s just practice.
All in all - try sparring some higher level belts in BJJ and you will feel the issues with these techniques.
Not hating, just trying to help.
" I know you can turn and drop fast, but trust me - pulling hands away when they feel like they are in trouble is an instinctual movement that is done much faster. " yeah, and your assumption makes clear you have no clue about martial arts.
No one pulls away. They try to hold harder. Everyone who is not a trained Judo/BJJ or similar fighter, is not going to release anything he has already grabbed. He will try as hard as possible to hold it.
And normal person, aka non martial artist: do not even know what is going on and what is going to happen.
"I’ve had my arm broken in half during a fight and didn’t feel much pain till my adrenaline started to wear off - it’s not a flex, it’s just the way the body works. "
Yeah, but you could not use your arm anymore.