UFC Fighter used Wing Chun on Me | ft. Stephen Wonderboy Thompson
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- Today I am showing @WonderboyMMA 3 Wing Chun techniques and we are gonna use each other's moves for a friendly sparring at the end!
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Nice to see a UFC fighter appreciating how Wing Chun can up their game. A lot of other videos talking about Wing Chun seem to be all about "myth busting" and showing how it's outdated or just doesn't work in modern contexts. I've never understood that mentality. All martial arts have strengths and weaknesses. A good fighter learns from what works, no matter where it comes from.
Especially Wonderboy because he's known for his speed
To be fair, they are looking at a system as a total and not the individual techniques. Like small elements can work but a system as a whole could be broken.
The issue with traditional Chinese martial art is that most of it didn't evolve and maybe even devolved.
Due to a huge popularity and demand in the west many used it for exploitation and to just make money.
You got lot of people who were teaching without ever being in a real fight themselves.
It lacked competition and sparring which resulted into choreographed drilling, which I think watered down everything.
Think Wing Chun just has to do a lot of catching up and polish in that regard to get back on track to evaluate what is effective and what is just to complicated fancy.
I think part of it is due to most people's experience with it only being in movies, whereas they've been able to see real-life application of MMA in stuff like UFC. In America, more than 72% (2020 CDC stat) are overweight or obese. In the remaining 28%, there's also a lot to cross out due to all the other physical activities that people engage in. So that leaves a very small amount of people in America who's been properly exposed to Kung Fu.
But I think there's also a good amount that have had bad experiences due to being deceived by grifters, which there are in every field, which is why the proper ones would show off their lineages to prove that they're legit.
There's also been a need for re-adjustment due to China being a 3rd world country for so long, only recently(from a historical perspective) becoming a developing nation.
So you have a lot of practitioners being below a competitive weight class or just lacking a fit body. Moreover, a lot of Kung Fu are also lacking in fitness training to develop their bodies optimally.
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Thanks for mentioning it, I totally forgot.
Think the insane focus on lineage did a lot of damage.
It helped to avoid being challenged.
My experience with multiple teachers was that training is almost pure theory.
While other martial arts paid their dues and went in hard.
It's so funny to see Wonderboy taking lessons. This guy is already a very high degree striker with a lot of pedigree. But he's so humble that behaves as a child when starts to learn new things. Stephen is a very very nice guy. :D
He's a martial arts geek geeking out. You can feel their genuine excitement at sharing techniques with each other. Very cool.
That's a big concept amongst followers of Jesus. You have to become like a child to be a true disciple.
"And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them and said, 'Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.'" Matthew 18:2-4
@@cadenthornton9451 different contexts. Religion requires faith and not questioning what you're told. Martial arts requires openness to learn and asking plenty of questions
@@MrShoblang This misses the point by miles and comes across as just a way to take shots at a philosophy you disagree with... the point is that Stephen is a deeply religious person and he's putting the relevant and applicable teachings of his religion into practice in other aspects of his life. I'm an agnostic Jew and I can still appreciate that.
That’s why they win - they are humble. A truly great fighter has 2 key qualities.
1) they outwork everyone
2) they are humble
What really blows my mind is how fast wonderboy learns. Amazing
He is fast!!
The thing is.. the more u learn the easier ur mind can apprehend new stuff . He's already a ufc fighter and his background is traditional martial art which makes him open minded to learn, plus he's physically so fast . Like shane described him '' he's like goku''
He learns so fast, has amazing distance management, and is really explosive with very low to no telegraphing! I loved that he picked up using the pak Sao da to catch jabs coming in. It's one of my favorite things to do sparring and is nice to make them hesitant to throw jabs. With how good Stephen already is at getting great explosive power without telegraphing it he can be even more of a monster with the vertical punch coming out of no where.
No shit! Dudes like a robot or something. " You mean do this?" Executes it almost perfect.
I said the same thing... I was like man this guy has some real natural ability.
Wanderboy reaction is priceless! As if it is his first lesson ever. So enthusiastic! I loved it.
dude’s like a fish in water, he’s so happy xD
If you haven’t yet, watch his vid w Jessie enkamp , wonderboy is so humble and and I can see , great to collab with … so open minded
Dude, your wing chun content is god-tier. It's so rare to see someone applying the concepts in a practical manner instead of just trying to emulate hong kong action cinema. Especially with the popularity of combat sports, it's an important necessity to keep the art alive!
Wonderboy is a humble expert, and he has fun! Kevin does a great job explaining the history and mechanics of Wing Chun.
This video was so much fun to watch, and I feel like Kevin and Stephan had just as much fun making it! It really shows that fighting isn't devoid of joy and that the fun comes from exploration and connecting the body and mind. Thank you for this collaboration!
I have been practicing a lot of wing Chun myself since I was like 8 and it's really nice to see someone use it and train it much more practically. A lot of people hate on wing Chun users saying it never can work but that's because a lot of people that train wing Chun never pressure test it.
This video makes me smile
Thank you!! I believe you gotta train and spar what you study!
i don't particularly care that much about wing Chung (tkd/kick-boxer) but ill never completely right it off because i know any style can be used to great effect if the right athlete comes along and practice it in a pressure environment. it wont look as flowery and as pretty but it will be effective. remember how karate was looked at because of all the fake karate experts and the experts who never actually fight getting their ass beat, all it took was a few good karate practitioners to modify it test it and use it practically. As it turns out point karate is the best version of karate to use in mma due to its distance striking. so you never know.
@@ky-passley4769 I agree. Nearly 400 years ago, Miyamoto Musashi said the same:
"There are many people who, even when studying the Way of the Martial Arts, think that these skills will not be useful in real situations. In fact, the true Way of the Martial arts is to train so that these skills are useful at any time, and to teach these skills so that they will be useful in all things."
And I think that it's not just in fighting or sports in general, but in all disciplines, that you need knowledge, compatibility with said discipline as well as understanding of how to apply that knowledge in order to excel in that field.
@@ky-passley4769 i wouldn't say the best, they have to loose a lot of bad habits from striking and stopping to score
A lot of the concepts about the Wing Chun techniques that Kevin Lee explained to Wonderboy i already have mastered😉💯😎👊👊🔥. I'm now on my way to becoming a Master of Wing Chun. Others fighters call me the Unbeatable😁, Untouchable 😎 and even Ip Man😂. Wing Chun is like my wife, my only true love so i'm spending a lot of my study-time on Wing Chun. Only because i want to a Master and teach it to others. My biggest dream is to teach Security Guards, Police and even The Army of my country.😁👊👊💯. I can end a fight within seconds. I fight with softness and hardness at the same time and it works effectively😉. I love fighting soft though. You just don't get tired when u soften your fighting style. Doesn't matter what style you fight. People also call me the Second Bruce Lee because of my speed😁. I'm really really fast. Before you know it i'm already done fighting with you😉
Wow, I've never seen wing chun being sparred like this. Most of the time it's practitioners getting destroyed by MMA fighters. Very nice video keep it up!
Wonder boy is a damn good man. He is what we should all aspire to be.
Kevin is such a great coach. I think Wing Chuns reputation is so bad because many of the "Sifus" out there don't know anything about fighting. It`s like the first sentence in every Wing Chun Shool I have ever been to: "We don`t sparr or fight, our style is too dangerous" And then they perfom a shitty stompkick to prove their point.... 🤣 But as one can see in this Video, Wing Chun is applyable to fighting.
I mean, some techniques definitely can't be used in sparring lol. But still good to practice them so that if u ever ended up in a real fight, u have them ready
your wing chun content is dope, I remember for years ppl would be like "oh that doesn't work, its fake, etc." I never believed them bc about 20 yrs ago when I was in hs one of my teachers was a wing chun master and he had all the respect from the "troublemaker" kids cuz he would give them life advice but would also prove his techniques weren't fake, usually by demonstrating them on ppl lol. Anyways one time i wanted to see for myself so I asked if we could to light sparring in class (i was taking boxing at the time) and he demonstrated how much faster and stronger he was. I tried to parry his punch that he threw very casually, both of our forearms clashed, except im sure his was intentional, and I swear to god I thought he broke my forearm. I went down immediately in pain. Anyways he was a legend in school, and whenever someone would say wing chun doesn't work, I would think back to him and be like well it works for some ppl, and let me tell you I wouldn't want to go up against that teacher in a street fight lol.
Man I love your vids Kevin it’s fun to see someone use wing chum to fight! but man we need more sparring videos from you!
Thank you!!
good to see martial artists without ego but having an open mind to learn from each other
I'm jealous Kev! Thompson's one of my favourite strikers in the UFC, and he's a cool guy to boot! Great video!
Great attitude, we can see the gentleness of Wonderboy who has nothing to prove and yet helps his friend feel confident , that's THE superior attitude, instead of trying to find out who's the best, let's be brothers
6:29 Best pun ever, "Same Lee niage" great one Kevin!
He was landing that pak sao immediately. That's awesome!!
This is why I don’t knock any Martial Arts. Note how each Martial Artist subconsciously implemented each other’s system with theirs while sparring and how smooth it looked. Like the Karate side step chain punch wonderboy pulled off!
Love Wing Chun! Love this video... the reach difference in sparring here was huge but the sparring was fantastic. Both of you guys were amazing. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
good to see Wonderboy learning new techniques from different styles and practice them. when I did mma I did use some wing Chun techniques and he's learning so fast and becoming a better fighter
I very much like the hand trap for mma. It's more of a parry imo but very effective. You can throw pretty much any strike you want after it and your opponent is kind of left available to hits. Punch, elbow, axe kick. Their gonna get hit.
Wonderboy is such an amazing, and down to earth fighter. Always positive, courteous. NMF belt well earned. And Kevin is one of the best Wing Chun representatives out there too. Grear to see a collab between these two greats.
Thank you!!
UFC Fighter: yeah wing chun can work
Keyboard warrior: wing chun does not work.
i want to like this more times than once
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Perfect attitudes for learning and improving while preserving respect and friendship!
Wonderboy is someone you just can't root against. Coolest and most humble dude in the UFC. Would love to see an elbow land in his next fight for the win.
No ego, just fun. Love it
After so many years of training, the best fighters always have this response, "hey!, that could work, I can use that" when they are presented to a different technique from different school.
This is a great exchange. This is fun. No Ego. Just "Let's ALL learn something today." Healthy, happy and better than when we left. Thx guys.
Such a fun session, love the energy from both of you 😁
Finally someone who understands that the traditional Wing Chun stance is for weapon fighting. Finally! This man is very smart and knows what he's doing.
Also Wing Chun is cool and is fast but it lacks power. It has some good traps and nice elbows, but the lack of power kills the style, sadly, and also the very short range. You're never gonna hit a fighter who's fast on his feet. That's why it's not effective against other combat styles. It's still awesome and fun to do, if you can find a teacher like this man, bro, go for it. Don't train MA because you want to beat up everyone. Train MA for health, for training and for enjoyment. Keep up the good work, very cool video!
(I also did Wing Chun for 10 years, so I know what I'm talking about. 🙏)
I agree with you, but I think wing chun is for really street fights and not just that, but I talk about suckerpunch, chest buming, you know... Angry man walks to you, or argue in your face, THAT is when wing chun works really well.. I had to use what I learned once, someone wanted to hook punch me, while I tryed to calm down a situation. His hads were in a laying neutral position, he wanted to hook me from there, with a wild punch, while we were facing close, I just hit his elbow pit, bicep with my forearm, (fook sau, biu jee) and pulled down his hand a bit right away with a step in, and my other arm I put on his chest (left arm on right hook, right arm on his chest) I didnt hit him, I asked what the fuck man, why, (they wanted to beat another guy not me first) then he tryed to hit me with his other arm, I pulled back my head a bit, I almost felt nothing from his hook, but I could feel it like a fly touches you on my jaw, I asked him if he is crazy or what again, then I saw his face with a big surprise on it, then the everyone walked away, someone else steped in. We practiced this in my wing chun school very much, aswell sem sanda, we had no problem with sptepping back, or a little wrestling... So I can tell you, wing chun worked for me, not just once, but in sparring, I rather use kickboxing or what ever... Wing Chun is really good if they walk into your personal space up close, and wing chun does not lack power, depends on how you do it, and even more importan, where you place your punch... I got broken ribs from wing chun punch it is no joke, but you need to really either whip it, step with it, like a power punch, turn with it, or using kinetic chain, and drop your weight a bit to it contracting your body, and drop your shoulders, elbow down and forward a bit. Sure, cross, and a big hook with a step is devastating, but wing chun punch can be also, if you place it good, and it is all nontelegraph...
yeah the train for fun not to actually fight argument never really rings true to me. I don't have a problem with people who train because it's fun and don't care if it works so long as they are honest about it, it's a totally valid mentality, but training because you legitimately want to be able to hurt people who try to hurt you is equally valid, if not more so since fighting arts should be useful for fighting.
damn i really really liked the first technique show this is really clever ! the little change of angle for the jab with it's 'weird' tempo is really unexpected specially because we are so used to 'feel' the movement of the hips
Kinda think the short punch might be helpful for getting in shots on guys who are gonna grapple and wrestle.
Its a quick answer to get them thinking.
Wrestler wants to get in close to be able to shoot so shorter faster punches might helpe guys double think about if they want to go in for the clench... etc
I like the way you think.
It is not only the short punch...A grappler /wrestler going in for clench can be suicide against a W.C who has sparring experience.
You dont want to get in close distance against a style that is focused around fast precision strikes in close distances from multiple angles and dirty low blows.
They seem to have success against W.C styles only because many if not most W.C practisioners dont have much sparring experience and because of the controlled enviroment/rules.
Also, in a real fight, the opponent will not wear these cute boxing competition gloves, so the strikes are gonna hurt. Also W.C works a lot with palms (not fingers or hand grabbing) and wearing these huge boxing gloves is very restricting.
However, the caveat is that if a wrestler gets you down, you are basically hopeless with Wing Chun...unless you hit in forbidden areas but that is a questionable move even in real fights imo.
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Wonderboy is a professional mma fighter.
I was thinking about usage in the octagon.
Also I was thinking about countering and neutralizing wrestlers given that ST is a stand up fighter...
This was great to see. I love wing chun and martial arts in general.
I know wing chun has a bad reputation because some people are ignorant of how real fighting works.
To get good at fighting, you need to move and spar with people.
I love Wing Chun and its good to watch you enjoying it .. the whole system has that enjoyment for me
This is so awesome loving this♥️🙏
To me there really isn’t a “bs” martial art, they are all useful it’s really the person using them. They can all be learned from.
I love the positive attitude ! btw the way you showcased the vertical punch at the start, was kinda influenced from JKD straight lead punch ! Thank you for the nice video : )
It was fun watching two of the nicest martial artists on TH-cam sparring together - smiling, complimenting and high fiving each other after each confrontation. So much positive energy.
Great content I was a black belt at age 17 it took me 8 years. So no BS and my Dad was a drill sergeant a self defensive practioner. I learned how to fight getting my ass kicked in Miami where I grew up. I love theses vids and Jesse Enkamp has some really good content as well.. It reminds of my Dad and I going over drills and sparring. He always had something else to show me.
The Ip Man movies got me interested in Wing Chun and you have kept me interested. I'm a karate practicioner so seeing the blend between the two is beautiful.
Karates actually satisfying with the side kicks
That looks wonderful, Ownderboy. Wonderful :)
Wonderyboy’s timing is excellent. He can make anything work.
0:50 Alot of the best strikers use vertical fist punches. Look at Adesanya's Jab, it's the perfect vertical fist punch; pretty much identical body mechanics, to Jack Dempsey's powerline punching concept
Hmm. Are you familiar with Jack Demsey’s book Championship Boxing, because all this stuff about vertical jab thrown stiff, landing with three low knuckles etc. is in there, all which is pretty much gone in modern boxing (and for a very good reason)? He claims it to be from an earlier era when people where doing more bareknuckle fighting (Dempsey started basically as a bar room brawler) and I wonder if the western boxing and Chinese boxing had originally more in common than people think.
Like for instance, I doubt those Wing Chun punches have whole lot of weight/power behind them, but maybe they are more to scrape and cut the face than knock out or break bone - just like in the old style of pugilism. Hitting a solid bone with bare knuckles the same force as you would with gloves is likely to end in a possibly unfixable hand injury. However, using these bareknuckle techniques in the ring with gloves on is going not going to end well, because the opponent simply don’t have much to fear from your punches and you get steamrolled.
That back hand parry - jab was pretty slick, I’m going to try it next time some taller dude tries to keep me away with extended front hand. I think right hook could follow and it might be a knockout combo. Got to try it.
Jack dempsey's way looks like xing-yi chuan, which is a good way for wing chun guys to up their punching power.
Man this was brilliant. Thanks for doing this video!
I would love to see an explainer or tips on your foot movement and how you close the distance when fighting taller people. This is something I'm struggling with being a short dude 😅
wonderboy's attitude is inspirational, such a humble dude
I honestly thought you look great it was very quick and very crisp when you did that trap and Jab
標指、拍手衝捶/獻肘。 Love these kinds of interactions between different styles so much.
Man, you look like a kid seeing Legos for the first time. So super excited! Lol. Thanks for all you do WB! Can't wait to see you in the ring again!
People describe Wonder Boy as "nice." I think that greatly understates what is so excellent about his character. The man is humble. I don't mean that he devalues himself. He's confident in his abilities, and rightly so. But the striking (sorry) thing is that he doesn't devalue others. EVER. He regards others as worthwhile and deserving of respect, every single time, and it shows in everything he does. Notwithstanding all the martial arts excellence, THIS is the most important thing his father taught him.
You know every time I see Stephen Thompson, he just seems like such a good, nice, guy. It's wonderful to see.
Sheesh I love the quick wing chun techniques you can sprinkle in your game. It’s one of them martial arts you don’t have to do for years to be good but ofc itll make u better, but the stuff is relatively easy to pick up
Kevin you have a bubbly personality that reminds me of Ernie Reyes Jr when he was a boy! Keep that youthful spirit!
Looks like you guys had a lot of fun, I'm jealous! Thanks for sharing the great content!
Wonderboy just proved you could hand him a turd and he'd smile and act so excited. Nicest dude ever. 😁
Wing Chun's trapping and chi-sau sensitivity is even more effective in grappling
Gosh dang man this video is great!
Awesome to see Wonderboy in this....
I remember training these techniques as a kid. The straigt blast chain punches, the pak sao punch, etc. Love the content you do. Especially with recognized athletes like wonderboy. My lineage came from inosanto to dan Anderson to phil cruz n me. 3rd n 4th generation. Much thanx n love for putting respect on wing chun n jkd
I hope WB drills those. He is gonna get so good.
I've never seen sparring look like so much fun !!
For a super high level ufc fighter. Gow fucking exicited his face looks at the wing chung moves and his brain going off on how he could use it irl. Well thats just the most genuine thing ive rver seen
Lee is serious with his training 💪. I'm impressed with just watching his technique 😳.I'm Superboys a awesome student also
I used to do Pak Mei and was a long time Wing Chun hater but I subscribe :)
A lot of Southern Shaolin boxing is close quarter combat. Wing Chun is not the only effective fighting style out there. But as you can see, once you actually do the full contact and understand the techniques, then you understand Kung Fu works. In war time situations, these fights last less than 30 seconds. Just like samurai fights. The trapping and bridge crossing over is much faster in actual combat or fight than them sparring. This is why Kung Fu is the art of deception. Once you perfect your speed, agility and power. The opponent will lose before he blinks or moves his shoulder. Masters at high level when fighting, they’re extremely fast and do not move their shoulders at all. It’s all about angles, hips, low stance and your Dan tien. Power comes below your core. This is why when real authentic Kung Fu practitioner punch a bag, they use either sand, soy bean or iron ball bearings up to 300 lb bag. This is what Bruce Lee uses. This helps you strengthen your knuckles and improves your power and speed. Just like how Mike Tyson win his fights back in his prime and knocked out 6-7 ft 200-300lb boxers. He uses low stance and uses a lot of his hips and angles. Speed kills and you cannot defeat something that is moving way too fast for you. Kung fu is all about speed and power but most of all relaxation and at higher level, less of using muscle and more internal.
The backfist after lowering their guard looks like our Karate Style's Pinan Godan's.
Really? I am gonna have to look it up!
@@KevinLeeVlog We are Shito Ryu, Shotokan's version seems to be a backfist to Uppercut leading into a throw.
I just uploaded a short of our kata, it's the strike before the jump.
That slap and strike has opened my eyes . In Kankudai we have this transition from shuto uke to a press and nukite totally makes sense.
Real fun and educational video mate ;) Would love to see a video with you and Master Wong to see a type of light sparring there as well ^^ Always fun with different perspectives and practices.
You and Stephen should do a video on performing the shoryuken and hurricane kick....
Appreciate your vidz, sifu!
Yep. That is. Francis Fong, Kevin Lee, them still got the best wing chun fighting game in the whole freaking world. That's it. I said this like years ago, to this day still.
I use to work out at Minnesota Kali Group under Rick Fey. It's fun to watch a guy at your level casually sparring with other styles! I keep in good shape, but I'm 54 and I wish I could have ever moved like that!
MKG is great! Hope you keep training and staying healthy!!
and they say wing chun can't come into mma... look at that! some good clean wing chun techniques.
Great video, helpful and demonstrates the proper attitude for any martial artist.
Thank you.
Great video! Educational and fun, fantastic work guys!
Woah, this is actually like old style Jeet Kune Do. I myself practice Jeet Kune Do but over at my place, we don't do a lot of trapping and we scrapped Wing Chun Straight Blast. Instead, we use a lot of boxing staff like headmovement and others for defense etc. But we still keep it most Jeet Kune Do like the pendulum step, push step, sliding cross footwork and of course the vertical punch like the straight lead, backfist etc.
Big fan of Stephen and Kevin; just a class acts all around. Loved the Mr. Burns, from the Simpsons, impersonation at 6:08.
Wonderboy is such a great dude!
Just want kevin to know that "same lee-neage" joke did not go unappreciated lmao
Cool video, Wonderboy is a super humble dude.
I'm waiting for Wonderboy to use the patented behind-the-head Master Kevin punch in the Octagon. :-) Great session.
Nice sparring communication 💯
simultaneously.. oh the same time... yes. . hilarious. ypu the best wonderboy
@Kevin Lee - Next, you NEED to teach Wonderboy the famous Wing Chun Oblique Kick, one of Jon Jones' favorite kicks.
I will add that in next!!
Bruce Lee's BnB. Combining and refining of what works while removing the dross of excess.
if you pay attention people, if you hear what Kevin says wing chun is created for real self defence fight without rules, like fingers into the eyes, kicking in the groin, without preparation, wait or thinking about how to fight, it is just made for quick reaction in a situation when your adrenaline is too high and you have no another way to escape. Wing Chun is not made for competition.
Master Lee and Master Steven,
I admire both of your energies very much… Please let us know if there are any training workshops or opportunities to connect on Martial Arts!
Sincerely,
Keyan Nim - From Connecticut
do you ever mention stances for certain parries/strikes? cross-legged, parallel, ect....... also the attack the limbs is awesome to note
The trapping > punch is common in boxing as well
- Where did the ufc fighter use wing chun on you?
- [Points on a small doll’s head and torso]
NIce video and exchange of techniques.. Mr. Lee though needs to close that gap fast as he is alot shorter in height, to where Stephen could use a side kick to keep him off or a jab to keep him off.
12:44 for an epic sensei seth cameo.
a video lost to time, but a few of us will remember it
I got to say I was impressed Steve
I love Stephen Thompson...cool thing about Ving Tsun is you can give it to anyone and it will be cool...frail person + Kung Fu = Sweet Kung Fu...Stephen Thompson + Kung Fu = even sweeter Kung Fu ;)
Wonderboy is a beast! And a role model.
It’s about time for us Wing Chun guys… get out there and train, because pressure testing, sparring is important.
What, you thought I was gonna say we right? It can if you actually make it work. So get off your butt and work you keyboard warrior and be a real warrior!
This was amazing to watch, I've been researching some basic Wing Chun techniques for my JKD training.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
Loving your channel man. Great stuff.
Also it's gotta be super cool to n spar with Wonder Boy
Hittin those bong sau during the spar