just purchase 8 x drain test kit from Speediagnostix. For reasons I canot explain, TOROMONT and Cummings Lab dosent offer oil analyst kits for regular folks in Canada anymore.
I agree in oil life not being what is advertised. I don’t like it past 3000 miles at all. I have gone further and I have changed much sooner too if the oil gets dark. Don’t want junk flowing around.
@@308dad8calm down ladies. I have a Taco with 400k miles and did oil intervals of 10k. There was a 22 Honda civic with 250k miles that was sold last year and they did 10k miles intervals. The million dollar tundra did 10k intevals and he has multiple tundras in the 500k+ miles with 10k intevals.
You looked at my filter that had 10,000. You noted you didn't like it but couldn't argue that I should change since the lab results were also good. But I also was doing 100 miles a day with most of it freeway. So it does depend a lot on the type of driving you do.
If TBN and oxidation values stay low you are fine. not every vehicle can do it but many can. I have a mirage whos TBN is nearly depleted and oxidation is marginal at 5k miles so i am going to change it by then or sooner. I had an old lt1 camaro with over 300k miles, which i regret selling, that could do over 10k. I changed it at 10k anyway but there was still a lot of life left in the oil at 10k and wear numbers were very low. I am also a tuner and run a rental car business so i see a lot of vehicles. I wouldn't go and say people do 10k changes but for many cars it is completely fine. Now a lot of todays modern turbo gdi vehicles probably can't because they contaminate the oil more then port injected vehicles, Hes is probably right about those in general should be doing 3k-5k but even within the same family of engines one engine will or will not like a certain oil change interval. SO if your going to go extended changes get it tested and see what is possible which is what you are doing so go ahead and do those 10k changes.
I just started using the Valvoline Restore and Protect on my 2010 Sierra 5.3 with just over 100k miles on it. I wish I had taken some pics or a video of the internal portions of the engine before I did the oil change so I'd have something to compare. But I will definitely do it this coming change. The directions on the bottle say that the best results will be seen after three oil changes. I just watched this video that explained the science behind this product, and I am not ashamed to say that I spent my money on this oil and that I will continue to do so. I just hope this helps with the DOD- AFM lifter oil passages.
Really wanted to see this report.. Valvoline is undoubtedly good stuff. But I can’t see anything outstanding in the recipe that would indicate that it is a super cleaner. Really interested to see some real world results.
because test results only show what is being tested for. people are not grasping that with tests. if they are using other components in the oil that the test is not looking for, they arent going to magically show up. so its either that, or yes maybe purely marketing. entirely possible either scenario.
@@aclausenyt I saw the Motor Oil geek video too. I guess Valvoline doesn’t want to give away their secret formula but I trust Valvoline. If they say it works I’m sure it does. I’m going to try to convince my father to put some in his Honda CR-V. It needs this badly.
using the Valvoline Restore and Protect in a Honda J series with the faulty stuck piston rings. So far it has slowed the oil consumption about 1k miles on the fresh fill. Previous brands i would just top off because the rate it would eat it.
How much has it consumed in the last 1000 miles? I got a Hyundai Tucson with the 2.0L Nu Engine. It was consuming 1 qt per 1000 miles, replaced the PCV valve, did a BG EPR Service and BG Platinum Fuel System service and now I’ve consumed 1 qt in 3000 miles. I’ve had 2 Cats replaced under warranty, not looking to replace a 3rd…wondering if this will help.
Ok. So I’m assuming you haven’t been accurately tracking you’re oil consumption? Interested to know the successes of this product. I can tell you mine has consumed a lot over the years. At about 34,000 it was consuming 1 qt per about 5000 miles up until 74,000 1 qt per 1000. It would be great if this product works to restore the piston to factory clean as it states and keep them clean I.e protect. I’ll be interested in you’re findings.
@davidfrederick1613 oil is cheap and engines are not so I was constantly topping it off weekly. I tried every brand from and weight to try and minimize the loss. I even did two cleaning cycles of BG EPR. Since trying the Valvoline RP it is down maybe 1-2mm on the dipstick but I have not topped it off yet. Consumption is definitely slowed down.
I hope the oil is as good as the marketing. The name of the oil and its claims immediately caught my attention. I just purchased a 12-quart box of 5W-30 VALVOLINE FULL SYNTHETIC HIGH MILEAGE WITH MAXLIFE TECHNOLOGY for the V8 in my 2016 F One Shitty. I'd also like to know more about the FL820 filter instead of the FL500
Thanks, Rich, for your interest in this oil and your opinions regarding it. I'm considering using it for 12k miles over 4 oil changes to clean out my engine and then going to a good long-term oil afterward. My experience with oil degradation over mileage is that it isn't linear, in the sense that the change in the oil from 0 to 1k miles isn't the same as from 2k miles to 3k miles. My simple oil analysis protocol was to take a drop of hot oil from the dipstick at 500 mile intervals onto a clean white paper towel to see the history of the color change. On my engine, a Nissan VQ37VHR, I noticed a significant darkening beginning at about the 2000 mile to 2500 mile point and the beginning of a slight valve chatter at a hot idle, suggestive of a shearing of the hot viscosity down from a 5W-30 to a 5W-20. So, I made 2500 miles my oil change interval with the Nissan ester oil I had been using, vs Nissan's recommended 3700 miles for this oil in this engine. I'm now experimenting with Redline 5W-30 and waiting for a UOA on it at 3k miles in the engine. Previously, I had run a UOA with Motul 300V 5w-40 over 3k miles and found the results excellent, except for an abnormally high level of iron, 70 ppm, in the oil. My hope is that Redline's higher levels of Zinc and Phosphorus will better protect the iron components within my engine.
Thanks for sharing this Rich. I just recently switched to Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 5W-30 in my car from Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30. We'll so how she does. So far, so good.
A million miles wouldn't be able to declare a first place and second place contestants. So many things, nearly everything would mile out, or age out before a difference in those two oils stopped the show.
Blackstone Lad reports are worthless to our shop. Sent in an oil sample out of a newer Ford 7.3 with severe engine noise. Took over month to get the results and they said everything was fine, no signs of metal. Pulled transmission and found the flex plate with a great deal of movement. Pulled oil pan and found a broken crankshaft with a lot of metal in the pan.
ive had very good results with valvoline oils in general, for example the max life high mileage advanced full synthetic actually does stop or slow leaks and does stop or slow oil burning, after you use it for a while and change the oil every 3K-5K miles
I have a Toyota 1MZ-FE and a Chevy 4.3 Vortec both running very happily on Valvoline Advanced full synthetic. Thanks for cutting through the marketing hype! With your info, I know I'm putting good stuff in my engines 👍
I believe if there's ester in it, the oxidation value will be something like 30, according to what the Motor Oil Geek said in previous Pennzoil videos.
Have you ever tested or plan to test oil on an engine with a bypass filter? I am interested in the results. I remember when I was a kid most trucks used bypass filters and the oil stayed clear for a longer period of time but unknown about how well it was doing its job. 👍👍🙏💪
Not all moly is the same. You need only 70-100 ppm of much more effective tri-nuclear moly for max results. Tri-nuclear moly is used by ExxonMobil and Shell.
Hey Rich, Im looking at doing a rear diff service on my dads 2015 F150 5.0. He has the 8.8 and they recommend 75W-85. Should I use a 75W-140 like all the older ones? I assume they went to 75W-85 for fuel economy and not for longevity. I'd appreciate any input, thanks.
If it’s like my 2013 Escape, it has the intelligent “4WD” or whatever it’s called. It’s really not engaging all that much unless I accelerate rapidly (you can see it engaging on the info screen in one of the options and see how much it engages with various driving habits). All I can say is change it. My Escape was 3 quarts low from the factory and it what I sucked out was greenish black crap. I was able to suck out 1 quart and was able to add almost 4 qts. It actually seemed sludgy compared to the new. Many people reported similar low factory fill on Escape message boards. I used Valvoline in the pouch from Wally World. I use it in my PTU as well. I think the PTU takes 75w140. I change that every 25,000 miles. I am curious if the 75w140 would be more beneficial as I do a lot of city driving and occasionally tow a trailer.
I am putting vav restore and protect. in my 16 pilot. She gets different mpg from different oil. I have been trying them all. I seem too get funny results with all the oils. It dont like royal purple or amsoil. Ultra seems too love but engine is loud
felt the same.. my car loses oil with RP.. amsoil is just fine no big dif. PUP engine gets too loud.. Valvoline and Quaker makes my engine runs smooth and quiet and doesnt loses oil. Mobil one no big dif
In Lake’s video the Valvoline guys said they could have developed it to do a full clean in one OCI but that would ‘suspend’ too many contaminates in the oil and potentially plug up the oil filter - creating a bypass situation where the contaminates would then be forced through the engine. So they preferred to take the conservative route and slowly clean the engine over 4 oil changes…..which completely makes sense!
Oxidation 78 for Amsoil SS at 11 months and 12k miles! 2020 Cherokee v6. Metals weren’t high, but damn! Speed did the test, Amsoil pointed to my use case and said see what TBN is next time. F that! Pennzoil went back in and it’ll get changed at no more than 5k miles. I’ve used Amsoil since the early 80’s too. All my engines have gone 200k+ miles, but now the trust is gone! Did something change, or did I just get lucky over the last 40+ years?
@@shawnkleveland196 I’m having to eat a little doo-doo here, as this sounds very familiar, maybe since I’ve been hearing it for over 40 years now. For whatever reason it appears AMSOIL isn’t getting it done, even for guys like me who’re lazy and only wanted to get away with changing oil once a a year. Yes, 200,000 is no super rare achievement, with a little care. I think it was this channel that mentioned the 12qt box at Walmart, which is what I’ll be looking for. 3000 mi change this time to try and clean things up. Anyway, I was willing to eat doo-doo to help put the word out it’s worth getting the oil analysis done. Probably no matter which oil you’re using, especially if you’re going by your vehicle’s oil life monitor. Mine seems to stretch oil changes out pretty far too.
Iv always just used royal purple. That stuff is amazing. The one engine i took apart had no sludge or major carbon buildup at 220k. The cams looked brand new. It was a Toyota early 2000s v6.
I change the oil about every three thousand miles before it looks like black gold 😮 Have never had any internal engine issues with my vehicles and I drive them to high mileage
@@user-roadwander could use bagged oil and put your vehicle on a drip! If you have the $ and it's a special vehicle why not change the oil whenever you like?
TBN is still valid in my book, especially with GDI engines and modern Diesels that had their EGR deactivated. You are right that the extremely corrosive sulfur dioxide is no longer present in significant numbers but leaner fuel mixtures overall tend to create more nitrous oxides that also are acidic and need to be buffered off by the base reserve of an engine oil. Which is why TBN still serves a purpose and can be used as a metric for when the oil is done for, alongside with oxidation, of course. It's a "whatever comes first" scenario. And if you have a really good base oil in your engine oil, its oxidation value will be really low so judging by oxidation alone might pose a danger of being misled.
@@sirjohndoeofpa3292most American performance cars are not “sports” cars….true sports cars are 2 seaters….a corvette is sports car…. Mustang would be a modern muscle car …..which will kick the corvettes ass of the same era … 5.0 mustangs are way more popular than Camaros by far so they deserve the best…😅
Awesome info on the new Valvoline. I am curious of Valvoline’s Hybrid Vehicle Full Synthetic Oil. I saw their Restore & Protect and their Hybrid oil and was curious which one was better.
I run it in my rav 4 and cx5. Biggest difference I could tell without actually testing it from my observation was it holds up really well so what I mean is it stays clean looking on the dipstick for longer than any other oils that I've personally used and it seems to flow very well in the cold. Obviously this is all anecdotal but I'll give you an example in the summer we went on a 1400 mi road trip and I changed the oil right before we left at the end of the trip the oil was still so clean it was hard to see it on the stick. Also like Rich was saying I check my oil regularly I might put say another thousand miles on the Pennzoil ultra Platinum look at it and compare it to a picture the last time I checked it and it doesn't visibly appear to be significantly dirtier, I took it to $7,500 mi one time in my RAV4 because I knew that I had mostly drove exclusively highway long trips and when I drained it it still looked really good. Normally I go to in my Toyota Rav it's not direct injected or turbo it seems to be relatively easy on oil My Mazda though it's harder I'm about 4500 mi interval roughly it's rated for $7,500 but it beats the oil up fast even though the people that test it don't seem to show that in their testings I can absolutely feel that oil getting fuel diluted quick
Thanks for posting analysis. I do not know why oil blenders can't be more open about their chemistry - its damn important. Maybe Valvoline has data stashed on their website but I couldn't find it. This does appear to be an excellent oil for modern engines... maybe mid 2000 or later? 1990's stuff seems to be clearanced for 5w-30, so this might be a bit on the thin side.
Watch Lake’s TH-cam vid on Restore&Protect, completely laboratory based- Enough to make me switch- I too use Blackstone Lab for all my vehicles on every oil change
Any experience or concerns with the restore and protect clogging oil filters with the deposits it removes. I have a 15 5.0 F150 with 55k miles on it. I have been running 5-8k intervals on oil with advise from blackstone. Gonna send a sample of my current oil to speed diagnotix to see what they have to say with oxidation of my oil. Great info.
Valvoline had stated they did take this into account and made it so the cleaning agent would work after multiple uses and not clean all at once, which would cause clogging.
I'm giving it a shot. Not that my engine is smudged, its not as it's been highly maintained. However, I do have 258k miles so I'll see if there's any difference that I can tell. Just changed it so gonna run it like 1500 miles and change it again so oils aren't mixing to give it a fair chance. I do have to say when I started it after the change she was damn quiet. This is an 06 CVPI ex detective car w mostly freeway miles.
I watched Lake’s total lab based TH-cam vid on Restore & Protect- totally convinced me to switch My pristine 01 Grand Cherokee 4.0L is meticulously maintained as well. All oil changes with lab analyses by Blackstone for 2 1/2 years now.
Hello Rich, My 2003 Toyota Highlander 3.0 V6 has a small leak at the rear main seal. Would using Valvoline Restore and Protect worsen the leak? Thanks!
Hi Rich . I have a question. I want to start using this oil for my 2002 Nissan Xterra. The issue is if I go to a privately owned shop and I buy my own oil and filter how do I know they actually put the oil I bought in it and not some shit Oil. The Xterra has 169,000 miles on it. I live in California and there is so many places to get burned. It seems the only sure way of knowing that the restore and protect was put in is doing my own oil change, but I can't because I have a bad back and live in a community where you can not work on your vehicle. Any ideas ?
That's VERY Interesting number's from both Tester's??? Why such large differences on some of the chemicals in the Oil's is kinda weird?? Guess it's just the Testing Style??? / Equipment?? Seems like they would be a Bit more Close in the Testing #'s? 🤷♂🤷♂..
Because of the low starting oxidation value it probably has very little to no esthers. Which as an educated guess makes me think they are using Alkylated Naphthalene's as part of the base oil to provide that cleaning power. A lot of the guys on the bobistheoilguy forums use Mobil1 40 weight for that same reason its known to have Alkylated naphthalene's and my own testing has it remove carbon from the rings. If that is what valvoline is using its going to be a great oil at cleaning.
I’m sure all the TH-cam mechanics gonna tell me I’m wrong but I change my oil full synthetic every 2,500-3,000 miles .. the oil is a little dirty but not to bead at that point in my trucks
Have you considered just dropping a gunked up piston or engine part into a container of this oil as compared to another oil? If you think heat makes a difference, or will speed up the reaction, put your testing container in a hot water bath. My dad used fresh motor oil to clean his hands after working on cars, to get the black stuff off, and that was back in the 1960's. So basically any fresh motor oil will clean engine crud.... Does this stuff actually work better than any other motor oil?
I wonder what Lake Speed would say about the difference in his results compared to Blackstone. Please let us know if you do. I've been a user of Caterpillar SOS lab for over 30 years and have learned a lot about their equipment and calibration process -- first cabin. Thanks much, Rich.
Check out his other video comparing the other Valvoline options. The lab results are in the video. I’ve been running the Valvoline High Mileage synthetic since.
The only way I'd go close to 5k miles is if you have a larger capacity oil pan to hold almost double the amount of oil in your crank case. Other than that, 3k is the sweet spot. Read the owner's manual and see what they consider "normal" driving. The typical owner is NOT within the normal parameters. Your retired grandma that goes to the grocery store once a week and bingo on Friday night and church on Sunday is what they consider normal, under 10k, if not 8k miles per year. Most of us are in the extended or extreme driving. Also add in the dust/dirt in the atmosphere/environment, along with the exhaust being sucked into the engine from the cars around you on the freeway during rush hour and you are adding miles to your engine oil.
My 2005 f150 (bought new) currently has 253,350: *3000 +/- mile oci *switched from 5w20 to 30w *clean the pcv every oil change *new oil and air filters per oil change (motorcraft, Fram [the good ones] & currently Purolator) [motorcraft performs best] *run it hard x5 per week *synthetic oil (valvoline or pennzoil) *pre-fill oil filters since 1st oil change *use Marvel Mystery Oil [classic & synthetic] time to time in oil and every other fuel up (it works) *use Chevron/Shell/Unocal 76 gas 89 octane for best mpg to performance ratio *KEEP AWAY FROM DEALERSHIPS AND QUICK LUBE [DIY!]
Just subscribed. Loving your videos. One question. I have a 2020 raptor about to hit 100,000 miles. Would you use pennzoil ultra platinum or valvoline advanced high mileage 5w-30. Thanks and have a great day.
I have a Vibe GT with that famous Toyota 2.4 L oil burner. Going through a quart every 175-250 miles. I’ve tried all kinds of engine flushes, and I think a piston soak might be the only option. The guys in the vibe club familiar with this problem claim the same thing. All I’m doing is delaying the inevitable
I'm trying it on my Crown Vic hoping it will gradually free up the deposits around the piston rings. It failed smog and the smog tech said the rings were done for. No check engine light but I failed the visual. And I'm selling the car right now
Lake Speed already did a video about your concern with Valvoline Restore and Protect and what makes it special with Valvoline themselves at their R&D lab. Esters and more importantly excess ester isn’t always a good thing. Too much additives can dilute the protective properties of the base oil
Hi Rich, up here in Edmonton, Alberta Canada i use Polaris Laboratories, they are a veteran owned company, and i started using them and i get results back within 48 hours of them receiving the sample. They are from the USA starting in Indianapolis and now also in Texas. Just curious if you have heard of them or used them before?
@@randallmunson9909 Hmmm no they haven't that I know of and I've been using Amsoil since the early eighties. Unless it was some dealers doing it. They are just now starting to put together oil change kits, but they only include one filter.
What is your thoughts on synthetic oil I drive an old Ford and I had an oil change just done and they put synthetic oil in my old Ford this is the first time is it good for your car
Since I bought my jeep at 185k miles I’ve been running amsoil full synthetic, I’m at 192k and going to do my next oil change soon, should I stick to amsoil or try this? Or is there another good oil you recommend that’s in between since amsoil is a bit expensive
Please keep us posted on the f150… What about the TBN??? Are you impressed???? Because this stuff is 8 dollars more a container than pennzoil PUP!!!!! So I’m really trying to justify this additional cost???? Pennzoil pup was 7.1ish TBN???
Go Lake’s TH-cam video specifically on Restore and Protect. It’s is entirely lab based findings- convinced me to stop using Penz and make the switch. Results should also be evident with oil analyses- I to use Blackstone Lab
It's an invisible and undetectable magic molecule from Mumbai that makes Restore and Protect the best oil on the market that you can run in all old and new vehicles... If it's too good to be true, it isn't
@@genobrn8743In that video, the two from Valvoline didn't show any proof. They showed two different pistons, not the same before and after piston. Valvoline test engine was running at over 300F. Vehicle engines don't get so hot. If there was any deposit removal, it was by excessive heat, not by oil.
My NUMBER ONE CONCERN is this oil has only been in mass use for a few months, who knows what problems will happen from using this oil in 6 months, 6 years?? We are all basically guinea pigs with this oil. Not sure I want my engine to be a Valvoline Guinea Pig?? What's your take on this?
@@FordBossMe I talked to Lake Speed today on the phone and he is getting a video ready about this oil, but the upshot is he LOVES IT and backs it! So I guess I am IN!
Did youall know valoline was bought by the Saudi Arabian company Aramco?... Also those tests are in parts per million right? So we are kinda splitting hairs here so to speak and there could be slight varyances like that even with additional tests done by the same test lab from the same batch i bet, you know what i mean?
Im curious to know how the carbon deposits break away using it and is it for one oil change then go back to using your normal choice of oil, because my concern the carbon deposits on piston heads and cylinders would break up in flakes where it would cause cylinders and lifters to seize up or clog up and cause seriously engine failures where you need a new engine at that point. I just run motorcraft 5w20 full synthetic in my 08 super duty 5.4l 3v and I wanna try this Valvoline restore and protect, but I need to know if it's not a good idea to use in Engine or it's just snake oil
It's a slow acting cleaner. If you actually research Valvoline never intended it to be a cleaner oil and were surprised in their own 3H engine tests (Valvoline is the only NA oil brand with their own engine lab still) they then tested it a lot more then needed to make sure it didn't overclean. Because they had previously worked with Cummings on a oil to clean out a diesel engine that was having deposit problems (Only available through cummins dealers) but it wasn't an oil intended for you to use continuously. Valvoline engineers were worried about their new oil formulating being too aggressive a cleaner so had to make sure it could be continuously used. Put it this way this is the first major brand oil to be actually advertised to remove deposits. Even Pennzoil Platinum never advertised their oil as a cleaner and when asked said it is formulated to prevent deposits, not remove them.
Hey, brother. Any interest in doing a virgin CVT fluid test on Honda HCF-2, Toyota CVT, Valvoline, Castrol and Amsoil?? I have a Honda with a CVT trans. and would like to see the differences.
Pennzoil Platinum has a much lower oxidation rate than Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Ultra Platinum cleans better, but it has over double the oxidation rate. 3.6 for Platinum vs 10.1 for Ultra Platinum.
So, I swapped to this Valvoline restore and protect oil yesterday. I had been using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum previously. My engine is fairly new. It is a 5.7 Hemi reman from Jasper that I bought and installed in my 2005 Ram 1500 back in May of 2023. I currently have about 14k miles on it. I don't expect it to be very dirty because I have been changing my oil regularly since the two early oil changes during the break-in period. That being said, if this stuff works, why not clean up whatever deposits are there and then keep it clean from now on. I hope it's as good as it appears to be in the Oil Geek's video at the Valvoline testing facility.
HERE is how to order
www.speediagnostix.com/
just purchase 8 x drain test kit from Speediagnostix. For reasons I canot explain, TOROMONT and Cummings Lab dosent offer oil analyst kits for regular folks in Canada anymore.
I agree in oil life not being what is advertised. I don’t like it past 3000 miles at all. I have gone further and I have changed much sooner too if the oil gets dark. Don’t want junk flowing around.
@@308dad8calm down ladies. I have a Taco with 400k miles and did oil intervals of 10k. There was a 22 Honda civic with 250k miles that was sold last year and they did 10k miles intervals. The million dollar tundra did 10k intevals and he has multiple tundras in the 500k+ miles with 10k intevals.
Lakes channel is great. You can’t argue with his science and the man has the experience to back it up.
Science is science fiction!
You looked at my filter that had 10,000. You noted you didn't like it but couldn't argue that I should change since the lab results were also good. But I also was doing 100 miles a day with most of it freeway. So it does depend a lot on the type of driving you do.
Driving like you do is a lot easier on oil than short trips/stop-n-go driving.
If TBN and oxidation values stay low you are fine. not every vehicle can do it but many can. I have a mirage whos TBN is nearly depleted and oxidation is marginal at 5k miles so i am going to change it by then or sooner. I had an old lt1 camaro with over 300k miles, which i regret selling, that could do over 10k. I changed it at 10k anyway but there was still a lot of life left in the oil at 10k and wear numbers were very low. I am also a tuner and run a rental car business so i see a lot of vehicles. I wouldn't go and say people do 10k changes but for many cars it is completely fine. Now a lot of todays modern turbo gdi vehicles probably can't because they contaminate the oil more then port injected vehicles, Hes is probably right about those in general should be doing 3k-5k but even within the same family of engines one engine will or will not like a certain oil change interval. SO if your going to go extended changes get it tested and see what is possible which is what you are doing so go ahead and do those 10k changes.
I just started using the Valvoline Restore and Protect on my 2010 Sierra 5.3 with just over 100k miles on it. I wish I had taken some pics or a video of the internal portions of the engine before I did the oil change so I'd have something to compare. But I will definitely do it this coming change.
The directions on the bottle say that the best results will be seen after three oil changes.
I just watched this video that explained the science behind this product, and I am not ashamed to say that I spent my money on this oil and that I will continue to do so.
I just hope this helps with the DOD- AFM lifter oil passages.
Really wanted to see this report.. Valvoline is undoubtedly good stuff. But I can’t see anything outstanding in the recipe that would indicate that it is a super cleaner. Really interested to see some real world results.
because test results only show what is being tested for. people are not grasping that with tests. if they are using other components in the oil that the test is not looking for, they arent going to magically show up.
so its either that, or yes maybe purely marketing. entirely possible either scenario.
Absolutely! 100% agree with you
New motor oil geek video the Valvoline guys even say "yeah doesn't look special on paper but it works 🤷"
@@aclausenyt I saw the Motor Oil geek video too. I guess Valvoline doesn’t want to give away their secret formula but I trust Valvoline. If they say it works I’m sure it does. I’m going to try to convince my father to put some in his Honda CR-V. It needs this badly.
@@nicolem.792 anybody with a second generation pilot, MDX, or 2005-2010 Odyssey must be convinced immediately 😂
I like your channel, lakes channel and project farm. All have great information if you care about your vehicle.
Im waiting for Project Farm to do some testing with this oil. But that will take awhile.
using the Valvoline Restore and Protect in a Honda J series with the faulty stuck piston rings. So far it has slowed the oil consumption about 1k miles on the fresh fill. Previous brands i would just top off because the rate it would eat it.
How much has it consumed in the last 1000 miles? I got a Hyundai Tucson with the 2.0L Nu Engine. It was consuming 1 qt per 1000 miles, replaced the PCV valve, did a BG EPR Service and BG Platinum Fuel System service and now I’ve consumed 1 qt in 3000 miles. I’ve had 2 Cats replaced under warranty, not looking to replace a 3rd…wondering if this will help.
@@davidfrederick1613 how much has it consumed in the last several years is the real question 😅
Ok. So I’m assuming you haven’t been accurately tracking you’re oil consumption? Interested to know the successes of this product. I can tell you mine has consumed a lot over the years. At about 34,000 it was consuming 1 qt per about 5000 miles up until 74,000 1 qt per 1000. It would be great if this product works to restore the piston to factory clean as it states and keep them clean I.e protect. I’ll be interested in you’re findings.
@davidfrederick1613 oil is cheap and engines are not so I was constantly topping it off weekly. I tried every brand from and weight to try and minimize the loss. I even did two cleaning cycles of BG EPR. Since trying the Valvoline RP it is down maybe 1-2mm on the dipstick but I have not topped it off yet. Consumption is definitely slowed down.
@@RaiperApe so good assumption less than 1/4 of a quart…
I hope the oil is as good as the marketing. The name of the oil and its claims immediately caught my attention. I just purchased a 12-quart box of 5W-30 VALVOLINE FULL SYNTHETIC HIGH MILEAGE WITH MAXLIFE TECHNOLOGY for the V8 in my 2016 F One Shitty. I'd also like to know more about the FL820 filter instead of the FL500
Too bad it wasn't an old fl-1a motorcraft.
Wix 14459 is the equivalent,but about 7" long if you've got the room.
Hey there automototive ppl this oil advice sure helps me make a educated decision 5 cars and motorcycles.
Thanks, Rich, for your interest in this oil and your opinions regarding it. I'm considering using it for 12k miles over 4 oil changes to clean out my engine and then going to a good long-term oil afterward.
My experience with oil degradation over mileage is that it isn't linear, in the sense that the change in the oil from 0 to 1k miles isn't the same as from 2k miles to 3k miles. My simple oil analysis protocol was to take a drop of hot oil from the dipstick at 500 mile intervals onto a clean white paper towel to see the history of the color change. On my engine, a Nissan VQ37VHR, I noticed a significant darkening beginning at about the 2000 mile to 2500 mile point and the beginning of a slight valve chatter at a hot idle, suggestive of a shearing of the hot viscosity down from a 5W-30 to a 5W-20.
So, I made 2500 miles my oil change interval with the Nissan ester oil I had been using, vs Nissan's recommended 3700 miles for this oil in this engine. I'm now experimenting with Redline 5W-30 and waiting for a UOA on it at 3k miles in the engine. Previously, I had run a UOA with Motul 300V 5w-40 over 3k miles and found the results excellent, except for an abnormally high level of iron, 70 ppm, in the oil. My hope is that Redline's higher levels of Zinc and Phosphorus will better protect the iron components within my engine.
Thanks for sharing this Rich. I just recently switched to Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 5W-30 in my car from Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30. We'll so how she does. So far, so good.
Thank you Rich. I let the entire commercials play out, hope it helps a little :)
You're the best!
Finally! I just put the 5w-30 in my VW Atlas VR6. I hope it does some cleaning.
Trying to decide between this oil or Pennzoil ultra platinum for my 5.0 f150
A million miles wouldn't be able to declare a first place and second place contestants. So many things, nearly everything would mile out, or age out before a difference in those two oils stopped the show.
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is a no-brainer. Valvoline R&P is a marketing gimmick.
Blackstone Lad reports are worthless to our shop. Sent in an oil sample out of a newer Ford 7.3 with severe engine noise. Took over month to get the results and they said everything was fine, no signs of metal. Pulled transmission and found the flex plate with a great deal of movement. Pulled oil pan and found a broken crankshaft with a lot of metal in the pan.
From what i’ve seen they copy past the same message of “looks good go me boss” (steve bushemi face)
Put it on the same shelf as my DNA history report..
ive had very good results with valvoline oils in general, for example the max life high mileage advanced full synthetic actually does stop or slow leaks and does stop or slow oil burning, after you use it for a while and change the oil every 3K-5K miles
I have a Toyota 1MZ-FE and a Chevy 4.3 Vortec both running very happily on Valvoline Advanced full synthetic. Thanks for cutting through the marketing hype! With your info, I know I'm putting good stuff in my engines 👍
I believe if there's ester in it, the oxidation value will be something like 30, according to what the Motor Oil Geek said in previous Pennzoil videos.
Lake just released a video on the Restore and Protect Valvoline that you will find informative.
There is still alot unanswered on it
What is the full YT channel name for Lake? Thanks in advance.
@@EvzenKovar-i5p motor oil geek
Amsoil
The Motor Oil Geek@@EvzenKovar-i5p
How come the coefficients - ppm of the elements can be so much different between the two labs. So who is more accurate?
Most likely there's a gross cross contamination between the samples in the lab. I wouldn't trust either one.
Have you ever tested or plan to test oil on an engine with a bypass filter? I am interested in the results. I remember when I was a kid most trucks used bypass filters and the oil stayed clear for a longer period of time but unknown about how well it was doing its job. 👍👍🙏💪
I'm actually going to be working on getting a system for my truck so I can compare
There are videos about this very topic from The Oil Geek Guy
Great video. Will use this on my next oil change for my 5.4 ltr 3v F250. 86.000 mil. (2008)
Im bout to drive my ford focus up there to Illinois.
I need a lot of work done on my shit...lol.
Thanks Rich for the information
Probably a good sized amount of polyol Ester for the cleaning and the protect...similar to the Extreme Blue diesel...
Lake trip to Valvoline they mentioned polar molecules.. aka esters. .
Not with a 6.1 virgin oxidation
Lake lab analysis showed there were no esters in R&P
In the video, Valvoline dude said it was an undetectable magic molecule from Mumbai, India
Man that moly count is great!
Havoline is bumping 300 molyb, but there's not much info by way of YT on that oil. It's numbers, step for step look very similar to Valv Adv.
Keep in mind, the trinuclear moly count is a lot less in more premium oils
Not all moly is the same. You need only 70-100 ppm of much more effective tri-nuclear moly for max results. Tri-nuclear moly is used by ExxonMobil and Shell.
Hey Rich, Im looking at doing a rear diff service on my dads 2015 F150 5.0. He has the 8.8 and they recommend 75W-85. Should I use a 75W-140 like all the older ones? I assume they went to 75W-85 for fuel economy and not for longevity. I'd appreciate any input, thanks.
If it’s like my 2013 Escape, it has the intelligent “4WD” or whatever it’s called. It’s really not engaging all that much unless I accelerate rapidly (you can see it engaging on the info screen in one of the options and see how much it engages with various driving habits). All I can say is change it. My Escape was 3 quarts low from the factory and it what I sucked out was greenish black crap. I was able to suck out 1 quart and was able to add almost 4 qts. It actually seemed sludgy compared to the new. Many people reported similar low factory fill on Escape message boards. I used Valvoline in the pouch from Wally World. I use it in my PTU as well. I think the PTU takes 75w140. I change that every 25,000 miles. I am curious if the 75w140 would be more beneficial as I do a lot of city driving and occasionally tow a trailer.
I am putting vav restore and protect. in my 16 pilot. She gets different mpg from different oil. I have been trying them all. I seem too get funny results with all the oils. It dont like royal purple or amsoil. Ultra seems too love but engine is loud
felt the same.. my car loses oil with RP.. amsoil is just fine no big dif. PUP engine gets too loud.. Valvoline and Quaker makes my engine runs smooth and quiet and doesnt loses oil. Mobil one no big dif
I was reading on the Valvoline site and it says you have to run it at least four times. It won't just do that amazing cleaning with one bottle.
In Lake’s video the Valvoline guys said they could have developed it to do a full clean in one OCI but that would ‘suspend’ too many contaminates in the oil and potentially plug up the oil filter - creating a bypass situation where the contaminates would then be forced through the engine. So they preferred to take the conservative route and slowly clean the engine over 4 oil changes…..which completely makes sense!
Oxidation 78 for Amsoil SS at 11 months and 12k miles! 2020 Cherokee v6. Metals weren’t high, but damn! Speed did the test, Amsoil pointed to my use case and said see what TBN is next time. F that! Pennzoil went back in and it’ll get changed at no more than 5k miles. I’ve used Amsoil since the early 80’s too. All my engines have gone 200k+ miles, but now the trust is gone! Did something change, or did I just get lucky over the last 40+ years?
No reason to go Amzoil when you can change oil regularly. You can still make 200,000 mi. on vehicles.
Most likely thing that have changed since 80s is fuel injection. Oil don't get diluted with fuel.
@@shawnkleveland196 I’m having to eat a little doo-doo here, as this sounds very familiar, maybe since I’ve been hearing it for over 40 years now. For whatever reason it appears AMSOIL isn’t getting it done, even for guys like me who’re lazy and only wanted to get away with changing oil once a a year. Yes, 200,000 is no super rare achievement, with a little care. I think it was this channel that mentioned the 12qt box at Walmart, which is what I’ll be looking for. 3000 mi change this time to try and clean things up.
Anyway, I was willing to eat doo-doo to help put the word out it’s worth getting the oil analysis done. Probably no matter which oil you’re using, especially if you’re going by your vehicle’s oil life monitor. Mine seems to stretch oil changes out pretty far too.
No one can understand what you are saying
Iv always just used royal purple. That stuff is amazing. The one engine i took apart had no sludge or major carbon buildup at 220k. The cams looked brand new. It was a Toyota early 2000s v6.
That motor should have gone a 1/2 million miles.
Insane prices though. 😂 Dave your money
Please test fram 15w40
I change the oil about every three thousand miles before it looks like black gold 😮 Have never had any internal engine issues with my vehicles and I drive them to high mileage
I change mine every 1K. Never had any problems. Can’t change oil too frequently. Makes me feel good.
@@user-roadwander could use bagged oil and put your vehicle on a drip! If you have the $ and it's a special vehicle why not change the oil whenever you like?
Unrelated question. Fuel Additive to keep fuel system lubricated and clean. Marvel Mystery Oil or Redline?
TBN is still valid in my book, especially with GDI engines and modern Diesels that had their EGR deactivated.
You are right that the extremely corrosive sulfur dioxide is no longer present in significant numbers but leaner fuel mixtures overall tend to create more nitrous oxides that also are acidic and need to be buffered off by the base reserve of an engine oil. Which is why TBN still serves a purpose and can be used as a metric for when the oil is done for, alongside with oxidation, of course. It's a "whatever comes first" scenario. And if you have a really good base oil in your engine oil, its oxidation value will be really low so judging by oxidation alone might pose a danger of being misled.
Still running Pennzoil Platinum Ultra in my 5.0 Mustang until I get the full results. Thanks for doing this!
that's really good for a 5.0
just remember to service the transmission.
That oil is too good for a Mustang. You should just run SuperTech in it, Mustangs aren't a performance vehicle, they're not even a sports car😂
@sirjohndoeofpa3292 that's f up but true
@@sirjohndoeofpa3292most American performance cars are not “sports” cars….true sports cars are 2 seaters….a corvette is sports car…. Mustang would be a modern muscle car …..which will kick the corvettes ass of the same era …
5.0 mustangs are way more popular than Camaros by far so they deserve the best…😅
You drive a Honda don’t you 😂😂😂
So which one is accurate?
Neither
Awesome info on the new Valvoline. I am curious of Valvoline’s Hybrid Vehicle Full Synthetic Oil. I saw their Restore & Protect and their Hybrid oil and was curious which one was better.
You need to put an oil chugging Audi, VW, Hyuandai, Nissan or Toyota on this stuff and see if in unplugs the oil ring pack.
My next oil change I’m trying Pennzoil ultra platinum. Always use Castrol Syntec but I want to see if Pennzoil changes anything for the better
I run it in my rav 4 and cx5. Biggest difference I could tell without actually testing it from my observation was it holds up really well so what I mean is it stays clean looking on the dipstick for longer than any other oils that I've personally used and it seems to flow very well in the cold. Obviously this is all anecdotal but I'll give you an example in the summer we went on a 1400 mi road trip and I changed the oil right before we left at the end of the trip the oil was still so clean it was hard to see it on the stick. Also like Rich was saying I check my oil regularly I might put say another thousand miles on the Pennzoil ultra Platinum look at it and compare it to a picture the last time I checked it and it doesn't visibly appear to be significantly dirtier, I took it to $7,500 mi one time in my RAV4 because I knew that I had mostly drove exclusively highway long trips and when I drained it it still looked really good. Normally I go to in my Toyota Rav it's not direct injected or turbo it seems to be relatively easy on oil My Mazda though it's harder I'm about 4500 mi interval roughly it's rated for $7,500 but it beats the oil up fast even though the people that test it don't seem to show that in their testings I can absolutely feel that oil getting fuel diluted quick
Great information as always 👍👍
Thanks for posting analysis. I do not know why oil blenders can't be more open about their chemistry - its damn important. Maybe Valvoline has data stashed on their website but I couldn't find it. This does appear to be an excellent oil for modern engines... maybe mid 2000 or later? 1990's stuff seems to be clearanced for 5w-30, so this might be a bit on the thin side.
Watch Lake’s TH-cam vid on Restore&Protect, completely laboratory based- Enough to make me switch- I too use Blackstone Lab for all my vehicles on every oil change
Any experience or concerns with the restore and protect clogging oil filters with the deposits it removes. I have a 15 5.0 F150 with 55k miles on it. I have been running 5-8k intervals on oil with advise from blackstone. Gonna send a sample of my current oil to speed diagnotix to see what they have to say with oxidation of my oil. Great info.
None so far
Valvoline had stated they did take this into account and made it so the cleaning agent would work after multiple uses and not clean all at once, which would cause clogging.
I'm giving it a shot. Not that my engine is smudged, its not as it's been highly maintained. However, I do have 258k miles so I'll see if there's any difference that I can tell. Just changed it so gonna run it like 1500 miles and change it again so oils aren't mixing to give it a fair chance. I do have to say when I started it after the change she was damn quiet. This is an 06 CVPI ex detective car w mostly freeway miles.
I watched Lake’s total lab based TH-cam vid on Restore & Protect- totally convinced me to switch My pristine 01 Grand Cherokee 4.0L is meticulously maintained as well. All oil changes with lab analyses by Blackstone for 2 1/2 years now.
@@genobrn8743what do you do with the lab info. Rebuild a perfectly good motor? Sounds like a waste of money..
I wonder if the instant Valvoline oil change carries this. In winter I don't like changing my own oil.
No one does! That's why I've got an oil change on the shelf ready to go on a less miserable day....
Hello Rich, My 2003 Toyota Highlander 3.0 V6 has a small leak at the rear main seal. Would using Valvoline Restore and Protect worsen the leak? Thanks!
Hi Rich . I have a question. I want to start using this oil for my 2002 Nissan Xterra. The issue is if I go to a privately owned shop and I buy my own oil and filter how do I know they actually put the oil I bought in it and not some shit Oil. The Xterra has 169,000 miles on it. I live in California and there is so many places to get burned. It seems the only sure way of knowing that the restore and protect was put in is doing my own oil change, but I can't because I have a bad back and live in a community where you can not work on your vehicle. Any ideas ?
That's VERY Interesting number's from both Tester's??? Why such large differences on some of the chemicals in the Oil's is kinda weird?? Guess it's just the Testing Style??? / Equipment?? Seems like they would be a Bit more Close in the Testing #'s? 🤷♂🤷♂..
Because of the low starting oxidation value it probably has very little to no esthers. Which as an educated guess makes me think they are using Alkylated Naphthalene's as part of the base oil to provide that cleaning power. A lot of the guys on the bobistheoilguy forums use Mobil1 40 weight for that same reason its known to have Alkylated naphthalene's and my own testing has it remove carbon from the rings. If that is what valvoline is using its going to be a great oil at cleaning.
I’m sure all the TH-cam mechanics gonna tell me I’m wrong but I change my oil full synthetic every 2,500-3,000 miles .. the oil is a little dirty but not to bead at that point in my trucks
Have you considered just dropping a gunked up piston or engine part into a container of this oil as compared to another oil? If you think heat makes a difference, or will speed up the reaction, put your testing container in a hot water bath.
My dad used fresh motor oil to clean his hands after working on cars, to get the black stuff off, and that was back in the 1960's. So basically any fresh motor oil will clean engine crud.... Does this stuff actually work better than any other motor oil?
I wonder what Lake Speed would say about the difference in his results compared to Blackstone. Please let us know if you do. I've been a user of Caterpillar SOS lab for over 30 years and have learned a lot about their equipment and calibration process -- first cabin. Thanks much, Rich.
What's the difference with the Valvoline full synthetic high mileage?
Check out his other video comparing the other Valvoline options. The lab results are in the video. I’ve been running the Valvoline High Mileage synthetic since.
The only way I'd go close to 5k miles is if you have a larger capacity oil pan to hold almost double the amount of oil in your crank case. Other than that, 3k is the sweet spot.
Read the owner's manual and see what they consider "normal" driving. The typical owner is NOT within the normal parameters. Your retired grandma that goes to the grocery store once a week and bingo on Friday night and church on Sunday is what they consider normal, under 10k, if not 8k miles per year.
Most of us are in the extended or extreme driving.
Also add in the dust/dirt in the atmosphere/environment, along with the exhaust being sucked into the engine from the cars around you on the freeway during rush hour and you are adding miles to your engine oil.
Rich, what do you think about an 06 F150 with the 4.6? Good or not?
4.6 is always been a good v8.
My 2005 f150 (bought new) currently has 253,350:
*3000 +/- mile oci
*switched from 5w20 to 30w
*clean the pcv every oil change
*new oil and air filters per oil change (motorcraft, Fram [the good ones] & currently Purolator) [motorcraft performs best]
*run it hard x5 per week
*synthetic oil (valvoline or pennzoil)
*pre-fill oil filters since 1st oil change
*use Marvel Mystery Oil [classic & synthetic] time to time in oil and every other fuel up (it works)
*use Chevron/Shell/Unocal 76 gas 89 octane for best mpg to performance ratio
*KEEP AWAY FROM DEALERSHIPS AND QUICK LUBE [DIY!]
Just subscribed. Loving your videos. One question.
I have a 2020 raptor about to hit 100,000 miles. Would you use pennzoil ultra platinum or valvoline advanced high mileage 5w-30. Thanks and have a great day.
Pennzoil platinum high mileage full synthetic
Valvoline in my opinion makes the best oil
I have a Vibe GT with that famous Toyota 2.4 L oil burner. Going through a quart every 175-250 miles. I’ve tried all kinds of engine flushes, and I think a piston soak might be the only option. The guys in the vibe club familiar with this problem claim the same thing. All I’m doing is delaying the inevitable
I just switched to Valvoline Restore and Protect today and one thing that I noticed is that it stinks. It smells like burned motor oil.
I noticed it had a different smell too but, to me it has a hint of gear oil smell.
Have you tested Valvoline High Mileage synthetic blend? That what I use in my ‘01 Ford Ranger, 195,000miles.
What do you recommend restore and protect or high mileage Valvoline oil for a Hyundai Elantra 2006 with 140,000 miles to be more specific
I'm trying it on my Crown Vic hoping it will gradually free up the deposits around the piston rings. It failed smog and the smog tech said the rings were done for. No check engine light but I failed the visual. And I'm selling the car right now
For the majority of your oil analysis, are you sending them to blackstone or speediagnostix? Speediagnostix report nearly double the base cost.
Lake Speed already did a video about your concern with Valvoline Restore and Protect and what makes it special with Valvoline themselves at their R&D lab. Esters and more importantly excess ester isn’t always a good thing. Too much additives can dilute the protective properties of the base oil
Good info.
Hi Rich, up here in Edmonton, Alberta Canada i use Polaris Laboratories, they are a veteran owned company, and i started using them and i get results back within 48 hours of them receiving the sample. They are from the USA starting in Indianapolis and now also in Texas. Just curious if you have heard of them or used them before?
❤Any seal conditioners in it compared to HMO? Will appreciate the response❤
Motor Oil Geek is a great channel.
Wow there really is guys out there that really talk about oil
so even though amsoil claims 25k miles on a oil change you still suggest only 5k miles?
Yeap. 25,000 would only be practical. If you could get in your vehicle and drive 25,000 miles all at once. Lol
Actually a throwback advertisement to the days when you included an extra filter. Amsoil still sells the kits.@@jamieb9556
@@randallmunson9909 Hmmm no they haven't that I know of and I've been using Amsoil since the early eighties. Unless it was some dealers doing it. They are just now starting to put together oil change kits, but they only include one filter.
What is your thoughts on synthetic oil I drive an old Ford and I had an oil change just done and they put synthetic oil in my old Ford this is the first time is it good for your car
Since I bought my jeep at 185k miles I’ve been running amsoil full synthetic, I’m at 192k and going to do my next oil change soon, should I stick to amsoil or try this? Or is there another good oil you recommend that’s in between since amsoil is a bit expensive
I have a Tacoma with low compression in one cylinder. I wonder if Restore and Protect will unstick a stuck compression piston ring?
Use BG EPR and Some MOA - find it on Amazon or Ebay
Please keep us posted on the f150…
What about the TBN??? Are you impressed???? Because this stuff is 8 dollars more a container than pennzoil PUP!!!!! So I’m really trying to justify this additional cost???? Pennzoil pup was 7.1ish TBN???
Does your PUP stand for Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, because if it does… then saying Pennzoil or the first P is redundant…
I have a tacoma with 110k miles with a slow timing chain seal seep. What is your opinion on running Restore& Protect vs Valvoline high milage?
Can they measure aniline point? That will tell you if it can hard clean carbon deposits.
Good video
I'm wondering why this oil will not meet Dexos certification. Lots of GM GDI engines could use cleaner piston rings to reduce oil consumption.
So what does boils down to is.... Valvoline made a mysterious voodoo oil that just works because they said so. Nice!🎉
Go Lake’s TH-cam video specifically on Restore and Protect. It’s is entirely lab based findings- convinced me to stop using Penz and make the switch. Results should also be evident with oil analyses- I to use Blackstone Lab
@@genobrn8743 how many OCI's before switching back to regular oil?
It's an invisible and undetectable magic molecule from Mumbai that makes Restore and Protect the best oil on the market that you can run in all old and new vehicles...
If it's too good to be true, it isn't
@@genobrn8743In that video, the two from Valvoline didn't show any proof. They showed two different pistons, not the same before and after piston. Valvoline test engine was running at over 300F. Vehicle engines don't get so hot. If there was any deposit removal, it was by excessive heat, not by oil.
How about Valvoline European 5w40
Esters would show up in the oxidation value so it’s probably something chemical and not of the typical minerals you see on a report
My NUMBER ONE CONCERN is this oil has only been in mass use for a few months, who knows what problems will happen from using this oil in 6 months, 6 years?? We are all basically guinea pigs with this oil. Not sure I want my engine to be a Valvoline Guinea Pig?? What's your take on this?
I love it
@@FordBossMe I talked to Lake Speed today on the phone and he is getting a video ready about this oil, but the upshot is he LOVES IT and backs it! So I guess I am IN!
good job
Good stuff, Thank you FBM
Did youall know valoline was bought by the Saudi Arabian company Aramco?...
Also those tests are in parts per million right? So we are kinda splitting hairs here so to speak and there could be slight varyances like that even with additional tests done by the same test lab from the same batch i bet, you know what i mean?
Im curious to know how the carbon deposits break away using it and is it for one oil change then go back to using your normal choice of oil, because my concern the carbon deposits on piston heads and cylinders would break up in flakes where it would cause cylinders and lifters to seize up or clog up and cause seriously engine failures where you need a new engine at that point. I just run motorcraft 5w20 full synthetic in my 08 super duty 5.4l 3v and I wanna try this Valvoline restore and protect, but I need to know if it's not a good idea to use in Engine or it's just snake oil
It's a slow acting cleaner. If you actually research Valvoline never intended it to be a cleaner oil and were surprised in their own 3H engine tests (Valvoline is the only NA oil brand with their own engine lab still) they then tested it a lot more then needed to make sure it didn't overclean. Because they had previously worked with Cummings on a oil to clean out a diesel engine that was having deposit problems (Only available through cummins dealers) but it wasn't an oil intended for you to use continuously. Valvoline engineers were worried about their new oil formulating being too aggressive a cleaner so had to make sure it could be continuously used.
Put it this way this is the first major brand oil to be actually advertised to remove deposits. Even Pennzoil Platinum never advertised their oil as a cleaner and when asked said it is formulated to prevent deposits, not remove them.
Good video.
Good to learn more each day.
Great info and yes Lake is the bomb!
Hey, brother. Any interest in doing a virgin CVT fluid test on Honda HCF-2, Toyota CVT, Valvoline, Castrol and Amsoil?? I have a Honda with a CVT trans. and would like to see the differences.
Have you ever tried amoiz?Have you ever tested am's oil can be nice to see the results?You're so honest
I have tested amsoil - it's great oil but I'd rather run Pennzoil Platinum Ultra
Love it, “a very good mediocre oil.”
Well.......its sink or swim at this point . I have a GDI engine that is using it pretty good ! Ive tried Mobile 1, Valvaline high mileage......
I dont go past 7000km witch is about 4400 miles and my 2010 CTS-V wagon manual has over 800,000 km still run like new
Thank you, Rich.
What do you think about using it on a 2019 f150 eco boost engine
Pennzoil Platinum has a much lower oxidation rate than Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Ultra Platinum cleans better, but it has over double the oxidation rate. 3.6 for Platinum vs 10.1 for Ultra Platinum.
I don’t care what’s in it. If it unsticks the junk low tension rings in my Toyota and slows the oil consumption it’s a win.
Low tension rings are not junk.
Thanks for the video. Been curious about this oil.
Thoughts?
Enjoy your vids man
So, I swapped to this Valvoline restore and protect oil yesterday. I had been using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum previously.
My engine is fairly new. It is a 5.7 Hemi reman from Jasper that I bought and installed in my 2005 Ram 1500 back in May of 2023. I currently have about 14k miles on it.
I don't expect it to be very dirty because I have been changing my oil regularly since the two early oil changes during the break-in period. That being said, if this stuff works, why not clean up whatever deposits are there and then keep it clean from now on.
I hope it's as good as it appears to be in the Oil Geek's video at the Valvoline testing facility.