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Thanks, man! The free tickets worked, the EV show was cool, and it was fun to drive a bunch of new cars. Yeah, that Xpeng G6 was nice. Looking forward to comparing it to the Deepal S07, and also seeing this MG ES5 and the new Geely. Not an easy decision, but I can handle this kind of problem. ;-)
The whole point of EV is to save money from fuel. If the price of the car is 65k, 75k, 85k. I do not know how this budgeting really works. Mg on the other hand as you said is doing well pricing their cars cheaper than ICE cars. So you actually can save money before and after.
From Scotland I own a MG4 and it is brilliant. The real world range is 230 miles. The auto pilot is really good - with the upcoming solid state battery in a new car the mileage is supposed to be over 400 miles.
I own one too in summer its range on long journeys is 260 miles but in winter it’s 200 miles [for the 64 kWh battery] but I stick to 60 mph even on 70 mph motorways.
Live in Scotland too, to be fair real world 200 miles in our winters is decent. People were getting 70 miles in the last gen not the new gem MINI’s and that’s just a waste of time for me as I do road trips. My tipping point and I have aid this since about 2016 is 300 mile real world and cars are passing that easy today but the cheaper models are catching up.
Both battery sizes are LFP batteries. Great for durability and safety, and cheaper too. Definitely a direct competitor to BYD Atto 3. Also, some sources are quoting boot space as 461L and some as 380L. 380 seems very unlikely since the current MG ZS EV has 470L, and the new MG ES5 is bigger.
Thanks for the work Sam. That MG will be at least starting around €32.000 in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands there is a new Chinese EV for sale at the Mercedes dealer network. In 2nd week Novermber on the street. The Nammi Box, from DongFeng. Length 4010, 310km range with the LFP battery, adas 2 tech, 360 degrees camera and nice exterior and interior, for €23.700 for the highest specs. Still €6.000 cheaper than the Citroën Ë-C3 MAX €29.600 version, . . that has less specs. Nice.
Got an MG5 & we love it! Reliable and super cheap to run. It might not be a Tesla but it’s well built and is fab to drive. This is the kind of prices EV should be, not 40-50k + upwards, there is not a lot to them compared to an iCE car.
Inside the USA we have been undergoing a virtual arms race since the 80’s building larger and larger cars. It is the case now that the ridiculous size of vehicles has meant sedan sales are approaching terminal condition meanwhile SUVs and huge pickups have taken over the market. These huge massive trucks that are sometimes almost Semi-truck sized are usually taking one person to work and to the grocery store. Just one person. It’s totally ridiculous. These small vehicles would make sense if they didn’t have to worry about being squashed in our current vehicle arms race. Where will this lead? Ever increasing sized trucks? It seems unsustainable to me.
Montreal Canada has BYD for a TAXi importer On Dec. 2, E-Taxi, an electric taxi importer based in Montreal, announced the arrival of 25 e6 model taxis from BYD, the giant EV manufacturer based in China, and said that they were now in the hands of taxi drivers around town. E-Taxi was created in 2018.Dec 5, 2019
EU tariffs are 35.3% + 10% = 45.3% for SAIC. Atto 3 starts here at 39160 euros before the increased tariffs, so ES5 will probably be at least three times the Chinese price when it comes. You can get a Tesla for less.
I hope that the Baltics and Bulgaria will get MG in the coming months, even with the raised tariffs in place in EU markets. MG also makes cars with a combustion engine (the ZS, HS and MG3), which are not affected by the duty raise.
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50% tariff means it's $21,000 in the EU. Still a killer price.
It is important to note that there is a huge price gap between the same car sold in Europe and China. My mum has a BMW iX3 M Sport Pro. In China, it costs over £43,000, but in the UK, it’s over £60,000.
Norway does not have additional taxes on EVs from China. MG has a 4.5% market share of EVs so far in 2024. I'm excited to see what the price will be. Tesla mod 3 RWD costs 355,600 NOK ($32,327) in Norway.
Back in the late 1990s we were looking for a new (second hand, but new to us) car. I had no clue and my boss recommended Reynault, because it’s state owned and you get more metal for your money, they don’t care about shareholders/profit etc.. i compared the Laguna to the Mondeo and Cavalier and he was right. I bought an MG4 nearly 2 years ago, and the same seems true. When I bought it the nearest comparison was the VW ID3 and financially there was no comparison. What does China get, a bigger skilled work pool, a larger industrial base and projection of soft power. Just like back in the day, the US sold us Ford cars and Levi’s jeans, and coke and we thought they were cool. I ended up buying French cars and going on holiday to France.
The 72.6kwh ZSEV is just under £24K, so maybe this will be around £30K at launch, but deals could make it £28K before Salary Sacrifice, with SS you can knock off about 30% from that price.
But wages in the UK are much higher than in China. Without taking out a loan, it would take me a year to save enough money to buy an Atto 3 in China, but it would take much less time in the UK.
@@MagnusEI-q8i you are on far better money than me, I am a pensioner on just over £12k a year, so it would take me over 2 years of not eating or paying any bills to buy a £28k car. Even when I was working, it would have taken over a year, again without paying any bills or eating
My only concern for these is will I be able to get dealer only parts in say 10 years when something breaks? Maybe at 14k you just consider it disposable?
MG EVs are really affordable and are being heavily discontinued in the UK. The MG 4 is a bit of bargain. Tbh I not ready for an EV or Chinese car yet, but tbh i wouldn't be surprised to find myself in one sooner or later.
It's not fair that the whole world gets inexpensive cars except us poor people in the united states' of America. Those responsible for not allowing these inexpensive electric vehicles to be sold in the USA are straight criminal ass gangster thugs.
@@undisclosedthai The UK isn’t following suit from the EU in imposing higher tariffs on Chinese-made EVs. However, like the EU, the default import tariff in the UK is 10%.
I know that! But what the Viking is referring to is a tariff… not tax. A tax is a charge imposed on a taxpayer by a government. Tariffs are a direct tax applied to goods.
Legacy car makers: Let's start EVs at AUD$80k and work our way up MG: Let's start at AUD$60k and aggressively slash prices Little wonder MG is doing so well. They have a good* product at a great price. (*The MG4 Excite has an appallingly bad sound system. Sounds like a budget car from the 1990s).
Apart from Tesla, the U.S. car manufacturers don't seem to be taking advantage of the tariffs and barriers against Chinese electric cars. Now's their chance to compete. Shielding them from competition will not help them in the long run.
Norway is the country l most want to visit but it’s hard to get there. I am in Australia 🇦🇺 (home of 2nd most expensive place in world for housing). Do you like living there? Do you find it gets too cold in winter or do you adjust. The scenery is amazing we want to do a cruise along the coast. Cheers
@@chris1960 The winters are cold indeed, but again, that depends on where you live. Norway is about 2000km from south to north as the crow flies, add 500km or so if you're driving. In the far north, especially in the east, it can get down to -50°C or even colder in the winter, while in the south, it rarely gets much below zero. Also, since it's as far north as it is, it's rather dark in the winter (almost pitch dark up north, no sunrise for a month an a half), but then, it never gets really dark in the summer (in the north, not at all, since the sun is up 24/7). Only way to find out for yourself, is to visit our country :)
@@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 it sounds better in South Norway not as cold or a dark. -50°C does sound very cold and I wonder how the Viking survived that. We look forward to getting there. I think we will probably do a cruise along the coast up to the top of Norway.
@@chris1960 The vikings rarely went north of Saltfjellet (The salt mountain), but mostly stayed in the south. The Sámi people were those living up north and in the midlands, while the vikings mostly lived near the sea. In Røros (150km south of Trondheim) it can dip down to close to -50 sometimes, the eastern parts of Norway can be rather cold (I grew up in that part, -34 degrees on a new years eve, that wasn't pleasant). The only problem with the south coast, is that it's what we call the bible belt and there's a lot of religion (christianity, sometimes gone bad) down there. As an atheist, I don't really like that ;)
@@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 very interesting- my wife, like me, wants to visit your country and l on-pass the feedback. It is very interesting. Yes l was a member of the atheists in Australia and have attended a lot of their conferences. I used to work many years ago for the church but l moved away as l aged and researched the information then joined the atheists. Many thanks
More good news for China either way. Geely vs BYD, ...and looking to preempt Tesla's Model-2. That Tesla/Mexico deal is looking bad, but FSD/Robotaxi 'could' make the difference. What will Didi, Grab, and Uber/Lyft buy, and how will they price the EV's?
Tesla in America will clean up even more than they are doing now. Plus they will have their Cyber trucks, they are unlikely to be sold elsewhere in the world in any numbers. I think a massive step change is only just around the corner whether legacy auto like it or not.
If citizens don’t have jobs it doesn’t matter how cheap an imported car is. The West exported most of their manufacturing and production hence the flaws and gaps in the economies.
Why are you using American dollars when no vehicle is even being sold in the US? No salesman, no dealerships, no parts supply warehouse, stick to Australian dollars and euros. And yes, there is video of a BC hydro charging station being powered by a natural gas line, connected to a gas generator in north BC. There will be many of these soon to come as no solar or wind factories can generate enough to power them. And there is also video footage of a cargo transport truck carrying EVs and all of the EVs are on fire.
I totally understand the point. Why list the price in the currency that is most easy for everyone globally to do a quick conversation. Please in future make things more complicated to understand.😂. Or you could keep making great content that helps to inform a global audience of what is possible
It is hard to believe in 14000 USD price in China... without them subsidizing it hugely. If China can make good stuff so cheap, why other things of simar quality to Europe/USA are not 2,5 times cheaper there (like phones or drones etc), but only crap is that cheap?
You can't even buy this in USD and you didn't add the 65% Australia tarrif, maybe you could take 14k USD to the bank in china to transfer rmb plus a conversation free
Sound interesting. And Elon has cancelled the Model 2, saying it doesn't make any sense, even though it was on the original roadmap while things like the Cybertruck and the Robotaxi weren't. Go figure. I guess he thinks us plebs will have to make do with a crappy Robotaxi experience, rather than own a car like him? Of course, once again, he's dead wrong. Most of us want the convenience of our own car, you know that same experience that we have now. Anything less is a backward step, and I for one won't be doing that. If he's concerned that Tesla launching an "affordable car" will destroy the sales of the current expensive ones. That may be true to some extent. However, regardless of what he decides, the other manufacturers will do it anyway, and he'll pay the price. It's such a shame that he's lost his way. Tesla used to be such a great company, creating products that people wanted. Now it just seems like his plaything to try to force a future on people who want no part of it.
Worth bearing in mind the whole auto industry has come to a similar conclusion - all aiming for that juicy lucrative high ground. Mercedes has come a cropper with this strategy, as has Porsche (plus all their recalls have not helped). BMW's cheapest nastiest 1 series front wheel drive petrol with no options (and here in the UK seems to only have auto - no more manual gearbox) will set you back no less than just over £31k! Not exactly affordable. Then picking the one series to be around the same spec as the bigger Tesla Model 3 and you are north of £46k. To be fair in this spec the Beemer has got AWD but you are forking out over six grand for the privilege. Yes, Tesla might be pricey but don't be under the misapprehension all the other manufacturers have not got the same idea.
Don't tell me - you read a review of the Chinese fish and it passed. Sure - was this a randomly selected fish or did the Chinses fish provider give you a hand picked fish to check? Search BYD quality, or CHinese EV quality; see for yourself. Things that never should get to a customer are - clued on panels that falll off; crazy self driving; airbags that don't deploy in real accidents; fires..BYD has had 10 dealships n China burn to the ground; you can even find video of the cars on fire on the carrier on the way to the dealer - they dodn't even get there. China isn't a good choice long term or short.
BYD has 2 models cheaper in price than the Atto 3. There's the BYD Dolphin and the Seagull. Sam knows this. Sam knows the proper BYD model for comparison to a $14k MG is the Dolphin. Why the intentional lie and misinformation?
Sorry Americans.! Truthfully, they miss out because Americans are programmed not to like smaller vehicles. It's a ridiculous attitude, but even manufacturers who would make smaller vehicles don't take them to the USA. Not everyone wants to take the whole family across the entire continent, every day, in a monster truck. So instead they have monster SUVs. 🤭
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Thanks, man! The free tickets worked, the EV show was cool, and it was fun to drive a bunch of new cars. Yeah, that Xpeng G6 was nice. Looking forward to comparing it to the Deepal S07, and also seeing this MG ES5 and the new Geely. Not an easy decision, but I can handle this kind of problem. ;-)
MG is on the right track. Build EVs that people want to drive and can afford to buy.
The whole point of EV is to save money from fuel. If the price of the car is 65k, 75k, 85k. I do not know how this budgeting really works. Mg on the other hand as you said is doing well pricing their cars cheaper than ICE cars. So you actually can save money before and after.
@@hn1805 the whole point of EVs is to stop burning planet killing fossil fuels
From Scotland I own a MG4 and it is brilliant. The real world range is 230 miles. The auto pilot is really good - with the upcoming solid state battery in a new car the mileage is supposed to be over 400 miles.
I own one too in summer its range on long journeys is 260 miles but in winter it’s 200 miles [for the 64 kWh battery] but I stick to 60 mph even on 70 mph motorways.
@@johnfrancis4401 The length of MG4's journeys seem to make little difference. I plan to keep it in a warm garage this winter.
@@steverichmond7142 My experience is different. But I don’t have a garage….could that explain the huge range disparity between summer and winter?
@@johnfrancis4401 I think so that's why I built the garage and warmed it.
Live in Scotland too, to be fair real world 200 miles in our winters is decent. People were getting 70 miles in the last gen not the new gem MINI’s and that’s just a waste of time for me as I do road trips. My tipping point and I have aid this since about 2016 is 300 mile real world and cars are passing that easy today but the cheaper models are catching up.
Both battery sizes are LFP batteries. Great for durability and safety, and cheaper too. Definitely a direct competitor to BYD Atto 3.
Also, some sources are quoting boot space as 461L and some as 380L. 380 seems very unlikely since the current MG ZS EV has 470L, and the new MG ES5 is bigger.
Saw the new MG EV in camo in Bella Vista Pk last weekend. Driver was with his family at the playground
MGs big advantage in Australia they have a large dealer network, Unlike most of the other Chinese brands.
Thanks for the work Sam. That MG will be at least starting around €32.000 in the Netherlands.
In the Netherlands there is a new Chinese EV for sale at the Mercedes dealer network. In 2nd week Novermber on the street. The Nammi Box, from DongFeng.
Length 4010, 310km range with the LFP battery, adas 2 tech, 360 degrees camera and nice exterior and interior, for €23.700 for the highest specs.
Still €6.000 cheaper than the Citroën Ë-C3 MAX €29.600 version, . . that has less specs.
Nice.
Got an MG5 & we love it! Reliable and super cheap to run. It might not be a Tesla but it’s well built and is fab to drive. This is the kind of prices EV should be, not 40-50k + upwards, there is not a lot to them compared to an iCE car.
Your videos are awesome Electric Viking.
Thanks again Sam for the video
You're welcome!
The new BYD 06 GT will be amazing
@@stizzygrayson5541 but how much is it?
Wow !!!!!1 Wow !!!!!! US$14,000/- .... SsssuuuuuuPPPPeerrr !! Cheap . Hope to see a detail Review of the MG ES5
At least in Sweden I know it will be 3x of that price (at least)
Won't be that price calm down 🙄🙄
Interior much better than the mg4, thats the only thing I don't like about the 4.
Energy is energy. The density has very little to do with it except for the slight weight difference. You should look into this
Inside the USA we have been undergoing a virtual arms race since the 80’s building larger and larger cars. It is the case now that the ridiculous size of vehicles has meant sedan sales are approaching terminal condition meanwhile SUVs and huge pickups have taken over the market. These huge massive trucks that are sometimes almost Semi-truck sized are usually taking one person to work and to the grocery store. Just one person. It’s totally ridiculous. These small vehicles would make sense if they didn’t have to worry about being squashed in our current vehicle arms race. Where will this lead? Ever increasing sized trucks? It seems unsustainable to me.
I think automakers massage the ego,s of many drivers who think that the larger the car they drive the higher their social status is going to be.
so this is coming out before MG get their semi solid state battery is out, The revamped MG4 is going to be exciting to see.
Can't wait. MG ES5 vs Galaxy E5. Reviews please. When available in AU? Local price point? ;)
I just want an MG/Wuling/Baojun Cloud. PS; you're wrong about the touch screen.
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Can't wait to buy one, designed in covent garden, London, built cheaply in china. Thats a good co operation.
We missed out in the states. A $14k EV will sell like crazy.
Montreal Canada has BYD for a TAXi importer
On Dec. 2, E-Taxi, an electric taxi importer based in Montreal, announced the arrival of 25 e6 model taxis from BYD, the giant EV manufacturer based in China, and said that they were now in the hands of taxi drivers around town. E-Taxi was created in 2018.Dec 5, 2019
I like MG
EU tariffs are 35.3% + 10% = 45.3% for SAIC. Atto 3 starts here at 39160 euros before the increased tariffs, so ES5 will probably be at least three times the Chinese price when it comes. You can get a Tesla for less.
The Geeley Galaxy E5 is really something. I hope it can reach the EU at a reasonable price
I hope that the Baltics and Bulgaria will get MG in the coming months, even with the raised tariffs in place in EU markets.
MG also makes cars with a combustion engine (the ZS, HS and MG3), which are not affected by the duty raise.
50% tariff means it's $21,000 in the EU. Still a killer price.
It is important to note that there is a huge price gap between the same car sold in Europe and China.
My mum has a BMW iX3 M Sport Pro. In China, it costs over £43,000, but in the UK, it’s over £60,000.
Norway does not have additional taxes on EVs from China.
MG has a 4.5% market share of EVs so far in 2024.
I'm excited to see what the price will be.
Tesla mod 3 RWD costs 355,600 NOK ($32,327) in Norway.
Back in the late 1990s we were looking for a new (second hand, but new to us) car. I had no clue and my boss recommended Reynault, because it’s state owned and you get more metal for your money, they don’t care about shareholders/profit etc.. i compared the Laguna to the Mondeo and Cavalier and he was right. I bought an MG4 nearly 2 years ago, and the same seems true. When I bought it the nearest comparison was the VW ID3 and financially there was no comparison. What does China get, a bigger skilled work pool, a larger industrial base and projection of soft power. Just like back in the day, the US sold us Ford cars and Levi’s jeans, and coke and we thought they were cool. I ended up buying French cars and going on holiday to France.
Morning brother
Mg4 xpower driver and l love it. Software is garbage. Driver assists downright dangerous but it’s so much fun!
I love when they say an EV will be XXX US Dollars, and then say "Not available in the US". Damnit.
MG Z REPLACEMENT if in the electric version , that challenges the atto will be 20 to 30 percent cheaper than the byd
America wants Jeep Dodge Ram. The rest of the World goes Electric.❤👍 Thank You Sam for this video.
Thailand still goes Toyota Honda and Isuzu. (EV companies in Thailand are compete with each other instead of with Toyota Honda Isuzu.)
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If the car is under AUD30k, there will be a market for it here.
How? That the mg4 pricing. It will be around the mid 30k to low 40k for the base model.
Yea which makes this not worth being spoken about until it's on the horizon not still in darkness
Good
It might be $14K in China, but you can bet it will be over £28K in the UK.
The 72.6kwh ZSEV is just under £24K, so maybe this will be around £30K at launch, but deals could make it £28K before Salary Sacrifice, with SS you can knock off about 30% from that price.
@@Jimages_uk wait a year & it’ll be 17k
But wages in the UK are much higher than in China. Without taking out a loan, it would take me a year to save enough money to buy an Atto 3 in China, but it would take much less time in the UK.
@@MagnusEI-q8i you are on far better money than me, I am a pensioner on just over £12k a year, so it would take me over 2 years of not eating or paying any bills to buy a £28k car. Even when I was working, it would have taken over a year, again without paying any bills or eating
@@thomasbroker69 That is likely.
My only concern for these is will I be able to get dealer only parts in say 10 years when something breaks? Maybe at 14k you just consider it disposable?
@@callmebigpapa plenty of parts in the UK, it’s in daily use by taxi drivers
it has a 10 year warranty, so sell in 9.
It's definitely much better than the Toyota Corolla !
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Does the ES5 support vehicle-to-grid. Does it use a heat pump for cabin temperature control?
At 14k?
MG EVs are really affordable and are being heavily discontinued in the UK. The MG 4 is a bit of bargain. Tbh I not ready for an EV or Chinese car yet, but tbh i wouldn't be surprised to find myself in one sooner or later.
I was thinking of an MG, but their underbody corrosion resistance is not great to date.
14k usd is 63k in my country ' s currency. It's selling at 85k in my 3rd world country and man, USD14k is a bargain!
if this car goes to australia market it will still be over 40k AUD, atto3 almost doubled its price in australia than in china.
My MG4 is great but I wish I’d bought it more recently due to the lower prices. Quel damage.
$14,000? I wouldn’t even haggle the price down any further in America.
14000 in China, 28000 in America, probably.
Don`t worry bro , it would cost for you 30k + .
It's not fair that the whole world gets inexpensive cars except us poor people in the united states' of America. Those responsible for not allowing these inexpensive electric vehicles to be sold in the USA are straight criminal ass gangster thugs.
Is this the replacement for the mg zs ev? It's boot space sounds tiny. I would have been hoping for as close to 500l as possible!
Some other reviewers are quoting 462L, so it's a bit confusing at this stage. It certainly looks bigger than 380L.
Double in UK !!
As usual
Due to the tariffs, I think.
@@undisclosedthai The UK isn’t following suit from the EU in imposing higher tariffs on Chinese-made EVs. However, like the EU, the default import tariff in the UK is 10%.
I know that! But what the Viking is referring to is a tariff… not tax. A tax is a charge imposed on a taxpayer by a government. Tariffs are a direct tax applied to goods.
I see it like a tax consumer has to pay for the car but call it what you will 😂
Why manuel dimming center mirror?? 🤦♀🤦♀
I really think this charging speed is NOT state of the art.
Love ya reviews…. However, its tariffs you’re referring to not taxes - there is a difference. Keep up the great work
Tariffs are a tax ….
seriously, this car should be the SUV version of the Mg 4 forget about the ZS
What about 2 door mini hatchbacks EVs?
Apparently there will be an MG2 electric hatchback coming next year.
So close.
This car needs ten more centimeters in footroom 8n the back seats and it would be perfect at $16,000.
Legacy car makers: Let's start EVs at AUD$80k and work our way up
MG: Let's start at AUD$60k and aggressively slash prices
Little wonder MG is doing so well. They have a good* product at a great price.
(*The MG4 Excite has an appallingly bad sound system. Sounds like a budget car from the 1990s).
Bring to the UK pronto 👍👍👍
Apart from Tesla, the U.S. car manufacturers don't seem to be taking advantage of the tariffs and barriers against Chinese electric cars. Now's their chance to compete. Shielding them from competition will not help them in the long run.
And in Aus i bet you wont get much change out of $50k!
I would like to see you testing these cars rather than simply giving manufacturer stats
I dont see this pricetag in EU thought. more like double that.
Any idea what this thing'll cost when it reeaches Europe? Or mor spefically Norway, which is where I'm located?
Norway is the country l most want to visit but it’s hard to get there. I am in Australia 🇦🇺 (home of 2nd most expensive place in world for housing). Do you like living there? Do you find it gets too cold in winter or do you adjust. The scenery is amazing we want to do a cruise along the coast. Cheers
@@chris1960 The winters are cold indeed, but again, that depends on where you live. Norway is about 2000km from south to north as the crow flies, add 500km or so if you're driving. In the far north, especially in the east, it can get down to -50°C or even colder in the winter, while in the south, it rarely gets much below zero. Also, since it's as far north as it is, it's rather dark in the winter (almost pitch dark up north, no sunrise for a month an a half), but then, it never gets really dark in the summer (in the north, not at all, since the sun is up 24/7). Only way to find out for yourself, is to visit our country :)
@@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 it sounds better in South Norway not as cold or a dark. -50°C does sound very cold and I wonder how the Viking survived that. We look forward to getting there. I think we will probably do a cruise along the coast up to the top of Norway.
@@chris1960 The vikings rarely went north of Saltfjellet (The salt mountain), but mostly stayed in the south. The Sámi people were those living up north and in the midlands, while the vikings mostly lived near the sea. In Røros (150km south of Trondheim) it can dip down to close to -50 sometimes, the eastern parts of Norway can be rather cold (I grew up in that part, -34 degrees on a new years eve, that wasn't pleasant). The only problem with the south coast, is that it's what we call the bible belt and there's a lot of religion (christianity, sometimes gone bad) down there. As an atheist, I don't really like that ;)
@@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 very interesting- my wife, like me, wants to visit your country and l on-pass the feedback. It is very interesting.
Yes l was a member of the atheists in Australia and have attended a lot of their conferences.
I used to work many years ago for the church but l moved away as l aged and researched the information then joined the atheists.
Many thanks
More good news for China either way. Geely vs BYD, ...and looking to preempt Tesla's Model-2. That Tesla/Mexico deal is looking bad, but FSD/Robotaxi 'could' make the difference. What will Didi, Grab, and Uber/Lyft buy, and how will they price the EV's?
I hear you say that the Americans will miss out. Collateral damage to protect an industry.
Tesla in America will clean up even more than they are doing now. Plus they will have their Cyber trucks, they are unlikely to be sold elsewhere in the world in any numbers. I think a massive step change is only just around the corner whether legacy auto like it or not.
If citizens don’t have jobs it doesn’t matter how cheap an imported car is.
The West exported most of their manufacturing and production hence the flaws and gaps in the economies.
Very short range with their LFP battery unfortunately!
F*king dirt cheap 😮
Of course the china price is not the same as the local price would be.
Perhaps with a new generation of chinese EVs prices are about to go way down.
Atto way MG sock it to BYD price wise.
Please don't give range in KMs
Damn man the whole world gets cheap EVs but America and Europe
14000 dollar in china and 32000 euro in the eu... like wtf?
chinese are more down to earth.... a bit like fruit and veg. Spain 89cents for a kilo everywhere else 2 quid
Why are you using American dollars when no vehicle is even being sold in the US? No salesman, no dealerships, no parts supply warehouse, stick to Australian dollars and euros. And yes, there is video of a BC hydro charging station being powered by a natural gas line, connected to a gas generator in north BC.
There will be many of these soon to come as no solar or wind factories can generate enough to power them. And there is also video footage of a cargo transport truck carrying EVs and all of the EVs are on fire.
Lots of folks use U$ as a yardstick. AUD for Oz only. Euro, not so sure.
I totally understand the point. Why list the price in the currency that is most easy for everyone globally to do a quick conversation. Please in future make things more complicated to understand.😂. Or you could keep making great content that helps to inform a global audience of what is possible
It is hard to believe in 14000 USD price in China... without them subsidizing it hugely. If China can make good stuff so cheap, why other things of simar quality to Europe/USA are not 2,5 times cheaper there (like phones or drones etc), but only crap is that cheap?
You can't even buy this in USD and you didn't add the 65% Australia tarrif, maybe you could take 14k USD to the bank in china to transfer rmb plus a conversation free
Just get a proper car! The off-the-court depreciation alone on these will buy you a proper Mercedes E55 estate.
Geely Galaxy E5 aka Proton eMAS 7 is a much better car than this MG ES5 TBH.
I spoke to the MG dealer locally in Ireland. They expect these to go at €33k.
Sound interesting. And Elon has cancelled the Model 2, saying it doesn't make any sense, even though it was on the original roadmap while things like the Cybertruck and the Robotaxi weren't. Go figure. I guess he thinks us plebs will have to make do with a crappy Robotaxi experience, rather than own a car like him?
Of course, once again, he's dead wrong. Most of us want the convenience of our own car, you know that same experience that we have now. Anything less is a backward step, and I for one won't be doing that. If he's concerned that Tesla launching an "affordable car" will destroy the sales of the current expensive ones. That may be true to some extent. However, regardless of what he decides, the other manufacturers will do it anyway, and he'll pay the price.
It's such a shame that he's lost his way. Tesla used to be such a great company, creating products that people wanted. Now it just seems like his plaything to try to force a future on people who want no part of it.
Worth bearing in mind the whole auto industry has come to a similar conclusion - all aiming for that juicy lucrative high ground. Mercedes has come a cropper with this strategy, as has Porsche (plus all their recalls have not helped). BMW's cheapest nastiest 1 series front wheel drive petrol with no options (and here in the UK seems to only have auto - no more manual gearbox) will set you back no less than just over £31k! Not exactly affordable. Then picking the one series to be around the same spec as the bigger Tesla Model 3 and you are north of £46k. To be fair in this spec the Beemer has got AWD but you are forking out over six grand for the privilege. Yes, Tesla might be pricey but don't be under the misapprehension all the other manufacturers have not got the same idea.
Who said Elon canceled? All this speculation
Wouldn't buy anything to do with Musk, he's trashing the Tesla brand with his politics.
It doesn't matter how much you paid me, I wouldn't set foot in one of those incendiary time bomb EVs!
Don't tell me - you read a review of the Chinese fish and it passed. Sure - was this a randomly selected fish or did the Chinses fish provider give you a hand picked fish to check? Search BYD quality, or CHinese EV quality; see for yourself. Things that never should get to a customer are - clued on panels that falll off; crazy self driving; airbags that don't deploy in real accidents; fires..BYD has had 10 dealships n China burn to the ground; you can even find video of the cars on fire on the carrier on the way to the dealer - they dodn't even get there. China isn't a good choice long term or short.
4.3 m2 is area. Capacity should be m3 or litres
BYD has 2 models cheaper in price than the Atto 3. There's the BYD Dolphin and the Seagull. Sam knows this. Sam knows the proper BYD model for comparison to a $14k MG is the Dolphin. Why the intentional lie and misinformation?
MG ES5 for dimensions should be compared with Byd Atto 3
Sorry Americans.! Truthfully, they miss out because Americans are programmed not to like smaller vehicles. It's a ridiculous attitude, but even manufacturers who would make smaller vehicles don't take them to the USA. Not everyone wants to take the whole family across the entire continent, every day, in a monster truck. So instead they have monster SUVs. 🤭
MGs were crap years ago, why would there EVs be any different.
Don’t you know why?
Please no stupid sunroof
I don't buy a Chinese car.
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MG is a very bad car.....
How so?
I'm sure Brazil produces amazing EVs, oh wait a minute....
@@sebyst7907 of corse not
@@euphegeniadoubtfire1364 in portugal are only problems with MG evs cars....nobody buy it
@@joseabreu5802 then here's your chance to build a better car than MG
MG are technically just awful. I'd never buy one.