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To be fair, Okita Alter has one of the coolest NP animations in the game imo
Oh absolutely. I love that she just fumbles the name of it some times. It’s adorable
Am still eying her, hopefully l get her this year
As an okita fan, her cool factor is all that matters to me
Most people don't know how to use her unfortunately.
@@KANISAMA. To be fair she's pretty mediocre due to her s2 Atk buff being for only 3 attacks and in farming she requires you to own Koyan and Oberon to get the most out of her. There is a roundabout way to make her 3t farm but it does much less damage since you have to get rid of 1 Koyan of Light and replace for a less desirable 50% charger.
The set up still requires you to have MLB scope or Mana Loading lvl 10 + 2 SSRs (granted Waver is basically free), while the Oberon Double Koyan comp does not.
Her most recent buff at least gives her a good niche against Cavalry/Zerks with Sky attribute, but she is definitely not great.
I feel like most of these servants can be summed up as "Atrocious because no NP Gain." If they somehow increased all of these servant's NP gain by 1%, they'd suddenly be far more viable.
1% np gain would be very broken. orion has almost 1% and u can see how easily he spams np.
And hitcount
Nah. A lot of servants can be summed up as "atrocious because their damage is too low to be used to 3 turn the harder level 90 nodes"
@@GeorgeMonet so is that all fgo players are looking for nowadays?
damn yall must really hate ST NPs
@@jyon7168 ST is very valuable for boss killing and for 90++ since AOE just doesn’t do enough damage.
"You were built to kill gods but Zeus is only one boss fight"
I knew who your #1 was gonna be once i realized everyone here is a "Feast or Famine" type of servant. Basically what makes any servant bad is when they over invest their skills into hyper-specific uses. There's a reason Waver is considered top tier, there's no fight or team that leaves you worse off for including him.
Fun fact: Most of the art servants here can loop surprisingly well. Ive seen setups where Vlad III loops 5+ times. Scheherazade can also be used as a farmer completely ignoring her original intended niche.
They may be bad in NA, but they're great in JP, and, thinking again, I have a hard time saying Scheherazade is bad in NA. Granted their adavantage lies in being really compatible with Castoria and Tamamo, but that's what is needed nowadays as a base, if you don't have it, you won't peform well, unless you're a fringe case, like Lancer Ryouma.
What kills Bunny Artoria is that her ATK status is the same as Vanilla Jeanne.
What's the point of raising her ATK by 40% for three turns if the other three you just hitting as hard as a christian with a flag?
pretty pointful tho , plus she is balanced due to high hp pools , her being almost as high as jeanne if not higher , she is def the better offensive ssr ruler actually imo
Best offensive Ruler? Amakusa and Mothman would like a word about that. Even some SR like Astraea, Quetz are far better offensive rulers than her.
To be fair I just combine her with summer BB
@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 Astraea, Da Vinci, Amakusa, Martha, QSH, Caren... it's pretty hard to find a ruler that isn't better offensively lol
Jeanne is only worse because her entire kit is supportive rather than selfish dps, Rartoria is actually just so... why lol
@@chadachi3970 I suppose they thought the deck-shuffle gimmick was actually strong so they limited the rest of her kit so she would not end OP. But they missed the mark.
Do I regret grailing my Nobbu-venger to 100? No. Absolutely not!
Man of Culture
Absolute chad
100 nobu gang
Nobu gang
Same. She actually hits harder without an attack advantage than my lv90 Arjuna alter.
Funny that you mentioned Artimes because she was my first ever 5 star servant, as well as being the only 5 star who got her NP leveled up. I may rarely ever used her, but I consider her to be the main reason for why I got one of favorites and anticipated Servants, Super Orion. I had planned on getting her max her out, basically dressing her up for the main Chad to come up to her and take her out. And it worked! I hadn't been able to max her out unfortunately, but I'm guessing Orion didn't want to keep a lady in waiting and leave her alleged wingman efforts be in vain.
That’s beautiful
Now that is a story worth seeing a comic for one day. If you can get someone to commission this, I'd love to read it.
Same kinda she was my second also my both my second np2 5 star and 5 star and I ended up getting super orion after I watched a video of him shooting her down in lb5.1 on a single multi no less
She was my first spook on my old account as well and I loved using Artemis. Her kit carried me through the early game for FGO, even if it isn't as good these days. Honestly, the buff I really want them to give her is a spiritron dress of the lostbelt Artemis- that Artemis looks amazing!!!
She’s my first and her and Dioscuri are the only 5 stars that I duped, both at NP3.
Never thought I ever hear someone saying "Orion needs a buff"
well considering right now she's more referred as artemis since we got super-orion. ye, buffing orion is kind of adding power to captain marvel, not to count it's hard to get him
As someone with a NP2 Super Orion, buff him, please. Add a 2k heal to his NP or something, he needs more resilience to be able to solo everything.
@@yeah5895 Pls give Him Invincible status and Over time 2k Heal for his NP too
ye, let's add survivability to the character whose main gimmick is 7 digit damage buster crit
@@alvinreinaldy5148 EXACTLY! THAT'S WHAT I WANT! IF THE CHARACTER ISN'T ABLE TO SOLO EVERYTHING AND DEAL MORE DAMAGE THAN MOST BOSSES HAVE HEALTH, HE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING CORRECTLY!
Proud owner of a Np 5 Lv. 100 Scheherazade. Love her, but outside of king fights and farming, she’s not that great.
She's AoE, I wouldn't expect to use her on harder scenarios where she doesn't have class advantage, though she does hit well with Double Castoria + Tamamo for neutral farming at NP2+ if needed.
She more consistent than anastasia when farming
Honestly I don't think it's really fair to not take support servants into consideration, since some servants were kinda seemingly build for certain support units or at the very least their buffs were made with it in mind. Even if we only consider budget 3 star or lower supports, some servants on this list wouldn't be on this list lol. Vlad is pretty good even with budget arts supports such as Paracelsus and maybe an art support from the friend list for example. The biggest crime though would be not factoring Nobukatsu into the Nobunaga evaluation imo, considering he was literally made for her and is an easy to get friendship summon unit. With Nobukatsu alone Demon Nobu's usability increases a ton. I also think framing her gameplay as a one turn big damage np is a mistake. As much as it hurts me, her np is pretty terrible and I think except for being useable to clear buffs against divine enemies, it's prob better to think of it as nonexistent. Where she truly shines is her straight up facecard buster crit damage imo. With a triple buster deck, 6 hits on buster, 5 hits extra, along with a very high scaling attack buff, sky dmg modifier, and buster up all lasting 3 turns she's going to be doing some incredible crit damage, and hopefully some buster chains, especially with the buffs that Nobukatsu and other supports can provide.
yeah honestly cuz there are a lot worse charecters that deserve to be on this list like Abagail (both ver and Lancer Tamamo)
@@asheqabeer1798 agreed
I heavily Disagree with the Nobu placement primarily because out of all the units she’s been given buffs that improve her significantly and pairs the easiest with budget all budget supports especially her brother. Also neutral damage isn’t bad when you have a triple buster deck that is especially useful in multi class situations. I would agree though from an NP damage standpoint though she is poor outside of niche. I would argue that her niche is much more viable and important than Artemis’s.
Koyan and Oberon make into a tactical nuke. Ya know that 70% ATK buff on turn 3? Well, make that 130%, due to Koyanskaya gimicks. Is enemy Sky/Divine? That one is DEAD
Bunny Artoria was my first 5 star, and while she definitely has her flaws, she's also gotten me some clutch wins.
Every 5 Star servant is good, you can't go wrong with any of them. In this case "worst" just mean "not as good as the others".
I really hope Arjuna gets a buff to make his np an arts like Emiya
It wouldn't change anything because it's still a 1 hit np, it's probably better as a buster cause of this. More damage> 10% refund
Have you seen his hit counts? How would that change anything?
@@henryC-03 yeah you are right. But they can always make it a new np like with Melusine. Just seems like he would be better if he was purely am arts servant
The suffering of being a Year 1 Servant.
1 hit isnt good man
Just look at Umu
Demon King Nobu Enjoyers know that she shits on every battle past lostbelt 1, every lostbelt afterwards either has divine enemies, berserkers, or rulers as an enemy (or all three)
Ik Arjuna is gonna be in here and it hurts my heart
Not Vlad too 😭
As an Iskandar simp I was honestly surprised to not see him in this list... or even among the honorable mentions
Actually a valid point. Eventhough his damage potential is high, he is a one pump chump.
I feel compelled to point out that, if anything, star gen is bad with Quick cards, since they already have high innate star gen and star gen works additively (which is why EMIYA and CasGil NPs can double up as star bombs despite being Buster and Arts respectively).
Really, Arjuna could be a hell of a star maker... If DW didn't decide to cap out the buff at 50% instead of EMIYA's 100%.
To put my two cents in for OG Arjuna: With his 1st and 2nd skill buffs, I do think he's viable as a Challenge Quest contender. I was reminded of this during the Gorgon Sister Exhibition in Gil Fest 2, as a friend of mine had his Arjuna's skills at Max and at NP2. Turned out to be a surprisingly strong counter pick and ironically carried my Enkidu until it was the Clay Boy and Euryale 1v1.
@@spencerblais2539 you're on the right. Plus he has a debuff immunity that will make it an incredibly strong pick for a future LB fight... And trust me: you'll really need that.
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Vlad is a ridiculously strong dps, his np hits hard, he has np drain for sustain, and even with buffs from paracelsus and a friend castoria he can nearly loop. Plus he has 2 guts. Vlad is actually lowkey one of the best ST berserkers in the game with that consistent high damage and looping capabilities. Yes, he's reliant on supports, but even hans/paracelsus with a friend castoria will do it.
And then kriemhild came along
@@creeperbros-dg9jr Kriem is really amazing but has low survivability which can be an issue. Still better than vlad and galatea in many circumstances.
vlad still better
vlad is absolutely insane dps and lowkey looper after his buffs,
he got double guts which is great since it also gives 30%np gain
he can drain enemy np which also acts as a 30% battery,
and legend of dracula's 30% atk+defense is no joke either.
he definitely is not top10 trash 5* of fgo. only ppl that trashtalk him are the ones that burnt his copies before he was good and now are salty lol
I love Jinako as a character. Her first skill is one of the best skills in the game. Sadly her second and third skill are nowhere near as good. As much as I love her, I do agree a buff could help her a lot
Agreed. Honestly, she's a staple for any solid arts team in my Chaldea.
While I won't argue his points, I really feel like she gets slept on more than she deserves.
Perhaps an additional taunt on her third skill. Or NP gauge.
Or possibly make the taunt targetable
Sigurd became somewhat of a meme for me and my friends on Gamepress.
We have a fanmade buffs thread and we spent a ton of time trying to figure out reasonable ways to fix him and when we seemingly finished it Musashi got an NP buff and threw everythong off balance.
...
Shucks
Not really surprised that alot of my favorites are up here but hey I know they're not great
Really hope Arjuna and Sigurd get buffed again
I'm still salty that Arjuna's NP has instant death against divine rather than Divine dmg scaling like Karna, that alone with how strong his NP dmg is would make him so much better even with a triple arts deck (and perhaps both arts and buster resist down on NP? It's not gonna make him broken considering Dioscuri reduce 2 card resistances as well)
As for Sigurd personally even when his buffs are down He still dishes out good dmg with face cards alone since his atk stat is so high, I hope his buster skill gets buffed tho cuz the guts doesn't last long enough and cooldown is too long (appreciate the NP buff tho cuz he is one of my strongest Nukes and the mvp of Oniland raids) either way top tier egg farmer in LB4 :3 and top tier husbando
sigurd definitely , archer arjuna , no , his kit is already damn stacked and is a better aoe archer than jeanne or napoleon imo and gilgamesh outside his niche
@@morsayxd4441 I do agree that skills wise Arjuna is great (that 5 turn debuff immunity sure is insane it helps out alot in CQs), it's just that his NP bothers me, not for the instant death specifically but the fact that it's insta kill for divine enemies which is not exactly practical unlike divine dmg scaling
He could have an anti evil rather than anti divine niche just not instant death to specific enemy types
IMO Nobu is insanely good. You just use her as Spishtar for buster looping. She is also somehow way more consistent than Jalter when used with Merlin. My NP1 Nobu will be grailed and 2k 2k at some point for sure.
She’s also an insane challenge quest and boss killer, much more than Jalter and Spishtar
I'm gonna argue that there is something that Artemis could do pretty well in; stalling. She has a high defense up for one turn, she has an Evade, and finally her NP both has a guaranteed drain and a decent Atk down attached to it, so I think she could function pretty well as a stall unit. Euryale has more consistent damage against males, but against non-males Artemis is going to do more damage overall and last longer. I think the main problem Artemis has is that she's just overshadowed by a lot of the SSR Archers and even SR Archers to an extent. A buff to her second skill would help, I think.
That's the problem: Euryale is better for male enemies and there are better higher rarity st archers. The biggest problem I have with her is that fucking arts card. Yes, the base np gain is good, but her arts card only has 1 hit, which is so bad
And basically is there's no males to fight against you're running with only 2skills :(
The issue with Sigurd is not Sigfried, but Musashi....
now that we have the worst ones, why not make the best low star servants and best 4 and 5 star servants? 🗿
5 stars is pretty easy tbh if we include jp would probably be merlin, skadi, castoria, waver, koyanskaya of light, oberon, muramasa, super orion, himiko, van gogh. maybe others instead of himiko and van gogh but the others are surely the best by needing absolutly no help at all or making any dps be good
@@nechocat1234 You're right but anyway it would be interesting to see some 4 star and low star (I just hope Mozart is in case he does lol)
@@nechocat1234 u missed arjuna alter
3 star? Cu
5 star? Cu!
Can’t wait for the inevitable top ten best counterparts to these list
The first seven spots will be supports lol
you could probably guess at least 8 and be correct lol
Okita Alter post all of her buffs has tremendous synergy with Koyanskaya+Oberon.She deals damage close to Arjuna Alter on Cavalry and goes neck to neck with Space Ishtar on Berserkers.
This game really just needs to up some hit counts and give more servants the ability to change their np type. It would instantly change the meta for the better and allow for more complicated team-building.
As much as it pains me to say
Ur right with the Okita Alter description
I rlly do wanna farm with her but she doesnt do enough damage
But at least that'll be addressed once Tama Vitch comes to NA
same i tried to farm with her but her damage really isnt enough TvT
depends of which np lv she is at , rn on na at np1 and 10 10 10 is between 30k and 35K which is correct for an alter ego but low compared to some other classes , after her buff she goes at 40K-45K which is really good at np1 , but dont blame her , she has one of the highest attack in the game , blame the alter ego class which is one of the weakest extra class , the thing is okitan has consistency and high face card dmg , plus crit pretty often , so i dont really agree with her being there at all
14:31 excuse you she is litteraly in the top 15 if not top 10 of the servants with the highest atk in the game like what :0 , alter ego class is the problem but is still very solid in melee cavalry nodes
To me bradamante is the worst 5 star in the game. You need at least her to be NP2 Skadi loop, her kit is like that of a welfare, she has no niche, is outclassed by parvati and valkyrie in looping since is much harder getting extra NP copies of her compared to these 2 and if you take her outside of the AOE quick lancer role she gets even worse compared to other AOE lancer. Just a terrible servant, Maou Nobu at least has a powerfull niche and Sigurd can diche out some really good damage for 1 turn. Bradamante has poor damage, she could be a tank but she is quick wich really limits her options. She is outclassed by all 5 AOE star Lancers and at least half of the 4 Stars, just terrible with no good qualities outside of being waifu material
I had Bradamante for 1 year and i never used her after the first week of getting her, she just not worth the trouble of bringing.
She feels like the quick ssr version of nezha. I'm not even joking, compare their skills
Her base stats and hit counts are solid enough to put her off this list in my opinion. Her skills and damage aren't amazing, but an on demand debuff cleanse with a small battery isn't terrible and she can NP multiple times reasonably well since she has ok np gain and star gen. Not amazing, but not terrible (I'd still say she's worse than post buff arjuna though).
@@blurb9319 but arjuna is already on this list. If she is worse than him, doesn't she belong on the list? Also doesn't help that her toolkit feels like it's designed for a quick version of Nezha
@@lookingforlove839 I would argue Arjuna is good enough now to not be in the bottom 10. Not by much, but still better than someone like Semiramis (as much as I love her, she does no damage without her buster resist down which requires stars).
@@blurb9319 Honestly, I wouldn't put arjuna on the list. Yes, his deck is awkward as hell, but he still can put in work and having almost permanent debuff immunity gives him an extra point. If anything, I'd put iskandar on the list.
Welp, one of the good things about Arjuna is his heal over time that lets him offset the drawbacks of shoving him a Black Grail. And I guess him having 3 Arts cards makes it easy to Arts chain with other Servants, mostly Casters.
As someone who got spooked six times by him, one has to look for the bright side.
I know absolutely nothing about FGO and despite this i find your videos super entertaining. Keep up the good work!
as a Okitan haver that threw 700+ sq and didn't came home until her rerun with one ticket. I find Okitan's damages more on phase cards than her NP.
I usually use her as a boss killer that can wipe side mobs and she's amazing. excited to get all her buffs in the future
surprised Summer Abby isn't on the list, though I guess Koyanskaya does make her at least somewhat usable
it's even funnier because he mentioned he wasn't considering Meta supports, because without any supports the Abigails should BOTH be on the list because they're so bad
I use Shiki and I don’t regret it… it’s a bit hard but thanks to the power of Cas Gil and Lan Ling it somewhat works(granted when I realized how well those two support go with Kagetora I’ve been performing miracles with that, super fun to combo imo). As a stall she is what got me through the Indian lostbelt a bit as I did struggle a bit until using her with Waver and the squad to just help her stay alive
I have to disagree with the not including support, who isn’t using the top tier support these days? No one is going solo other then for holy grail front. Vlad with his recent buff should be off this list. Scheherazade is a top tier farmer, and shine in her niche
Don't get angry because your waifu is on the list. The fact that you hace better supports doesnt mean everyone have them.
@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 you can just use support list one castoria is enough
@@fgostoryteller2168 for most 3T farming you need double systems or at least another Big support to pair with the friend one like Tamamo/Bride/Waver. Otherwise you have to rely on face cards
I am surprised Miss Crane is not on this list,especially given the criteria at the beginning(your only 5*). All the servants on this list can be used upon getting them and will be an improvement on your account. Miss Crane only works on well developped accounts trying to 3 turn a boss because of her plugsuit effect with her np. the overcharge effect is instant so doesnt help up with setting your damage dealer next Np. And if there is no backline servant you cant use her Np.and to use her Np you need 20 stars, her first skill might help but it restricts team building to servant with costumes and she doesnt have a costume. A niche and hard to use servant that is my pick for worst 5* in the game
It's nothing compared to these. She is a support with a 100% battery and doesn't even take one slot cause she switches out. Also, she is hard to use, that is why most people use her for 3 turn stuff. If you know her kit well she can be huge on challenge quests. Also the restriction is not a problem since most servants nowadays have star bombs on their skills + you can just take a star bomb CE on her to solve that problem.
I love Artoria Bunny, but I agree she is weird to use. If she got a buff, I either want her first skill to have the damage last two turns instead of the next turn. OR decrease skill cooldown on her Np. This way she can be easier to use as a farming Ruler, and she can use her unique skills more often.
id just like to say void shiki has the second best heal in the game with a 5000 hp heal, something shared with fellow type moon heroine archer artoria down to the exact demerit and skill cooldown
they also work surprisingly well together
Well the issue is that archoria has higher card hits and a higher np gain than Void Shiki. Where shiki's np gain needs help. (Give her an np gain buff ffs, DW.)
Where Archoria will more often than not have more than 100% np gauge most of the time, so she can utilize the spare np% for some survivalibilty. Which she lacks greatly if you are using her against berserkers.
Source: I'm an owner of an Archoria that is fully maxed lv 100 and 10/10/10 and had her since her first banner dropped.
heres to hoping maou nobu gets the mhx treatment. its kind of crazy how nobu went from this crit servant they were pushing to a farmer w koyanskaya and oberon although it is pretty expensive. but nothing is too expensive for my nobu in 2 years time
i dont know what are you talking about she didnt went form crit to a farmer, she just went form a week farmer to a challenge quest farmer ( while crit like a little nuke).
she is already getting it, she only needs an s1 and np buff to get as many buffs as mhx, and nobukatsu already turns her into a strong contender for the best crit unit in the game
Kara no Kyōkai is one of the first light novel I read back then
so despite how awful saber shiki was.....she'll still be my NO.1 saber choice
As previously I'll go over various notes for the servants.
9) Arjuna's near permanent Debuff immunity allows him to basically hard counter the 5.5 tree.
7) Jinako is a great anchor unit with her 2 kinds of hard defense (skill & NP). The NP Gain issue is also partially remedied in Solo due to her being able to Arts Chain
4) Buntoria, MLB Demonic Bodisatva synergizes well with her S1
3) Sigurd does amazingly well with a support Koyanskaya, she gives the Star Bomb and Star Gather he needs also the charge
2) Schez is a decent secondary attacker, her NP's Debuff resist down synergizes with her S2 and if they aren't Make it makes allies' Debuffs land better. I'd argue her S2 let's her survive better more so than the charm
Sigurd: It won't fix his fundamentally lackluster performance, but in his IRL lore, he also has Animal Communication (Birds). Kintoki's version gives 50% NP Charge. Probably less for Sigurd, but (20% ~ 30%) NP charge is already nice. And maybe add a voice line for Beni-Enma about him.
Vlad III: There's always damage buffs, but he can also be made harder to kill (and thus more likely to survive long enough to get his NP going). Basically, his lore has a bunch of survival abilities, aside from vulnerability to exorcism and sunlight battlefields. E.g. mist form (chance to evade, with higher chance for single target attacks - not guaranteed, but he also has double guts to fall back on), and healing via curse of restoration.
Like you said, every 5* is good if you have good supports. In my waifu's case i just use Andersen and Jane hitting 100k damage per crit on neutral enemies
even without support they are , unless your name is Crane , but even she is great at an extent but eh
alright, you finally put one of my favorites as the number 1 on this list, tbh ive only used nobu to eat berserkers and shes never met a ruler or a divine, nice list tho,
Great video!
I'm still hoping they'll eventually add some rank-ups/updates that increase hit counts on cards. Even if it's just on NPs. There are so many servants that would benefit from it and become more viable, like Shiki, as well as da Vinci and Shuten among others. Not to say any of them are weak or bad, and I use all three mentioned frequently.
On the topic of Shiki, something that I'd love to see for all instant-death abilities is dealing damage first. That way you can still generate stars/NP even when it activates, which is its largest detriment to being viable. At least in my opinion; it's never going to be a boss killer, but it should at least be good for clearing trash/adds consistently/repeatedly.
Me sitting here with my Lv.100 Bond 11 10/6/10 Maou Nobu:
Can't wait for Nobukatsu to come so I can make my wife better
You had me in the first 5 but totally went off the tracks for big chunks of 5 onward.
Honestly Arjuna has a fairly strong kit to be considered "the worst." He is a CQ runner. He needs some tweaks to a few things in the kit + an overhaul of the NP, but that aside he's not as bad as others in this list and certainly not the worst.
I think it would be fun if you made a series on how good you can make a unit with the right setup because even though I don't play this game one thing I do know about this game is that there are a lot of units with a lot of abilities so I'm sure there has to be a meta strategy a strategy they're just completely breaks the game but so I think it would be fun to do a series on the best setups for each unit because the game with this many characters I'm sure you can make pretty much any character viable with the right setup because of how much freedom this game gives you sure it might not be practical but you can make a entertaining series about it.
While I do love this idea, i feel it could very easily deteriorate down to "just bring a merlin/waver/skadi/castoria" for most of if not all servants.
Ouch, seeing my first 5* nobuvenger being the no.1 worst 5* servant
But at least I'm glad she being my first 5* and avenger with high dps to clear ruler and berserker bosses
Can't wait for Nobukatsu and the eventual buff, then she'll be monstrous!
My friend: Nobu sucks
Me: Ill make her work
My friend: how shes the worst
Me: *puts all anti divine command codes on her buster cards NP charge on quick and remove debuff on arts* and then *max out all skills* and then *run her with all the other avengers, run her with crit star gens or run her with standard best support on friend list*
My friend using her an realizing the np spam, 100% crit on all buster and killing divines faster than kirei can say yorokobe: wtf!?
Me: Nobus is worth it
I don't know how much it would help Okita Alter in terms of viability but what if on her 30% Buster/Quick she also was able to shift her NP type between the two in terms of a strengthening?
That'd at very least expand the number of supports that could really help her out.
As someone with both a Level 100 Shiki and Level 100 Schez, I will say that having the premier supports boosts their viability quite a bit. There are better options sure but they can put in the work. Also Shiki is not a farmer, she’s more of a stall oriented DPS.
And as someone with a grailed Bunnytoria I can say that she is pretty bad ☹️
Haha, Vlad Berserker is the best ST Arts looper, and already was so in JP when you posted the video. And, Siegfried is the SR, Sigurd is the SSR.
This is a list i simply cannot agree with. Artemis is there but no tamamo lancer, Vlad is there instead of Galatea.
No sight of Bradamante who gets outperformed by 4 stars. And while i agree with Scheherazade, murasaki could easily also be on the list.
Altera could also be on the list for being the worst of the generic buster aoe Sabers. Being beaten out by ibuki, Artoria, Mordred, and Arthur.
And while Da Vinci Caster does have a 50% battery she is completely outclassed by all the other Aoe Arts Casters that can loop. Especially the permanent Anastasia.
@@TheKreve I don't know about Da Vinci. I find her NP to be a little low on damage, but the rest of her kit is great, and is my default pick for casters. I have a hard time picking a different caster over her. I do have Anastasia, but I only have her at level 1 so I haven't really seen what she can do.
Summer Abby could make top 5
Maou Nobu's buff is called Nobukatsu and he is a FP limited servant tied to Yamataikoku
I get the point of her Np and her neash, but having 5 Hit Buster cards + 6 hits on extra + Nobukatsu buffs on her, her Np is negligible, because she will just delete anyone with her sheer amount of DMG from Face-cards alone
Never understood why people still think that Shiki needs to focus on her NP more than anything, her NP is great for damage but her role is being a super tank that goes for high damage arts cards, not a NP looper and/or abuser.
She really doesn't belong in this video.
As a Vlad simp… yeah, he belongs here. Legend of Dracula helps out his damage and I can get his Buster cards to hit for 20K with that at level 6 alone, but Herc can do comparable damage with Valor at level 4. His third skill buff gives him much needed NP gain up for an Arts Berserker, but the second guts goes away after only 1 turn?! And why has Vampirism not been buffed yet; his bio even says it inflicts charm which would help stun enemies and make him slightly tankier. And good god you know you screwed up when you have to buff an NP twice.
He's one of the best berserkers in JP right now though. He's probably the best ST berserker in the game for raids.
@@Criblo456 wait really? Last time I checked people were saying Galatea completely replaced Vlad. I mean I’m glad, just a tad skeptical.
@@lord_boneman Hmm, well I just looked and rather surprisingly yes, all the tier lists I can find place him higher, sometimes WAY higher, which even I find odd as on paper she looks very damn good. So if I were to speculate, on paper, I'm guessing it is because she's pure buster deck, which is unfortunate. Everything else about her kit is good, but it acts very selfish for NP gain, which is not good for an arts team. That means her support can't get their phantasms off as consistently and quickly, which can cost you and evens cost her directly because she's not getting those free 20% boosts from arts chains. So I think on a short battle she's probably better as 1 card less out of 15 isn't that big a deal but only slightly still, but on longer battles, that difference starts to come to light, especially with vlad's star bombs and it is costing her. But that is just a guess from what I'm seeing on paper as I haven't personally used her.
Vlad is bad on his own. Like, if you don't have him or any of the top supports and you pick him from the support list, he is pretty bad, though his buffs does make him a lot better than before. Though if you do have vlad of your own, then that gives you an option to pick castoria or Tammy from the friend list. If you have those supports in your account, even better
@@lookingforlove839 Yeah, I think you nailed the problem. Other servants can perform on their own, but he seems to only properly function in an Arts setup. I know I used him against Goetia with an Arts team, and he could sort of loop.
On additionnal note about, vlad paracelsus's amazing 3 3rd skill on top of the art buff skill he already give and the append skill make it so you can just put one of the art welfare 5star CE that has a 50% charge and let him do the thing since he would already have 20% on top of the CE.
Even better, thanks to his np that got a real buff with an art down on enemy.
.Jinako is actually an amazing solo servant, as a support not so much.
Scheherazade only issue is that she can only shine against wave of enemies.
Yes that s farming, but its not like challenge quests with multiple enemies aren't a thing.
She s amazing at spaming her np. Just like vlad, she just need a bit of art supports.
Nobu?
Heh, I don't think so. I don't even like her but I can admire how she can solo by pulling insane damages thanks to her first skill.
Even without class advantage she s super strong.
Don't think of her as a team player or at least the only real "support" that work are the ones that die quick.
As for honorable mentions
Medb is overloaded, she may shine better against males but her skills still do a lot more than just that.
Bradamante. She may look like a 4 stars skill-wise but she s surprisingly easy to use despite not having the best damages
MHX had so many buff I can't even see how someone would even think about her as a bad option gameplay.
I think arjuna archer is amazingly good when he facing divine enemy his instant death np is always work.
If you have him i suggest you can troll your enemy in lostbelt 5.
I'd love to see Arjuna Archer's instant death NP "always work" against divine enemy Servants and other bosses.
Top 2 servants that can make the Scariest Team is Nursery Rhyme and Jack The Ripper! seeing how Jack The Ripper can manipulate humans and servants memories and bring them into a world that can break them emotionally and there minds and Nursery Rhyme can Manipulate the whole environment by turning the whole place into a reality marble to due crazy horrific things like that sleeping king or a forest that steals your memories and identity, these two are truly deadly and scary on how they affect the enivorment and a living beings emotional and mental state
i haven't tried it myself, since i don't really use arts units, but i think Vlad 3 with a Castoria from support and a paracelsus can do pretty amazing stuff.
He most definitely can, really don’t understand the placement
Back during my first account i got lucky and the 5 stars i had were void shiki, tamacaster, and nightingale. I would just pick a merlin or waver for my support with tamacaster and shiki as a frontline and spam NP's all this to say, shiki is one of my favourite characters and i'll always use her if i get her unless it's only archers as enemies
Im so very sad that sigurd got 3rd place in here but i understand why except for that one turn where he kills everyone with buster crits he is just an ordinary saber beatstick with the highest atk stat on par with arthur and the buffs you said on him is great(except for that his third skill being party wide if its still only for one turn but if its 3 turns i would accept it) a star bomb or star gather is the only thing he needs to be great but not top tier like altria or mushashi and i hope they put it in his 2nd skill with an additional buff to lower the cd on it or just make the buster buff 3 turns(cause why the hell do you put a mana burst on a 7 turn cd)
Anyway great video overall my friend and agree on what you just said(poor demon king nobu sit on the top of the worst 5 star but she got a great personality and art and thats what all matters)
Maou with JP buffs is pretty good. All 3 types of damage buffs AND a supereffective mod on NP? Check! Keep in mind, almost every single divine enemy has sky attribute as well, so these effects work well together. Red buttons to press whenever NP isn't ready? Check! That one is particularly important since buster brave chains do a shit ton more damage than any other combination of cards. Hard defense? Check! You don't even have to worry about buff removal! And I don't know why are y'all fixated on the fact that 70% attack buff is only available for 1 turn, since 50% is also pretty good, and she has at least that much for 2 turns.
Here's a thing: if you exclude super supports, there is an avenger that is waaay worse then Nobu - it's Dantes. His card deck is dogshit lancer one, so no NP gain and no real brave chaining. No hard survivability. He has a star bomb, but no star weight buff (so does Maou, but she at least can make use of it if she is left alone on the field, Dantes can't be left alone since he is going to die in that case). He can buff his attack by 50% for 1 turn. That's it. No other types of damage buffs. I know that People remember Maou more vivdly since she came out right after Godjuna, but Dantes has been awful for a very long time until Skadi came along, and on JP, Skadi system is the least stable one out of the three.
You know who else sucks? Kintoki. Only 1 turn of damage (only on np since he can't crit), after which he is useless. No hard survivability is a death sentence for Berserkers. Also, he does less damage at NP1 than Jalter berserker, so he isn't even that good at his job. I know that back in the first year of FGO he was pretty okay, but game was easier back then. Now he doesn't make the cut.
Yeah i agree with u, specially for Kintoki, who is very strong, but he NEED double koyanskaya for being good.
Nobu is far more flexible.
The only avengers that are good solo are Nobu and Jalter, the four stars, Spishtar and Dantes are all pretty bad without OP supports to carry them (with the four stars being kinda bad even with supports)
I feel the need to mention that there are 60% NP CEs in game that provide decent card buffs that can be used with Bunnytoria if the intent is to be able to launch her NP.
I do agree with your problems with nobu but i do want to point out her best support is a 1 star everyone can get during an event. In a vacuum shes awful but with nobukatsu she hits pretty hard as a crit servant.
"if I'm not the best of the best I will be the best of the worst" - nobu probably
terrifying how most of the servants on this list are the ones i have and then a few more
Maybe you could do a video of behind the servants divine spirits or "top" servants?
As a big Sigurd simp it hurts to see him and so high but i cant say its wrong. I can say that even without his buffs he can do some nice damage because of his high attack stats. Also give his 2 skill a star bomb and reduce its cooldown and make his 3 skill a star gather and BOOM
"Looks at the title" Oh boy...
I actually used Orion/Artemis a ton when I first started, I always found them to be pretty weak sadly which is still an issue w/ her today. Arjuna on the other hand I use constantly, I know that Ishtar, Gil and Jarcher are all better but I like the guys aesthetic and he's still quite good for farming.
Is Okita alter, Shiki void and Artoria Ruler useless? I use them in challenge and farm they really useful to me.
24:00 I love her so much I just hope they make a summer Maou Nobu at this point with The milf, Kipposhi, and regular Nobu taking collective control of the Nobu hivemind. I’m ready to jump ship to another Maou Nobu, they can give it another try to improve her but I doubt they would.
they already make her stupid good tho, maou prebuff only good at one thing and that is atk spam and the problem with that is she cant make use out of those atk but now she can, yeah you need to wait 3 turn for the max value but if we see it in another angle 30% is a avarage, 50% is high, 70% is kinda dumb and while atk isnt rare it is among the rarest to get in this magnitude, yeah a good base dont help you much but if you get a buff that extract a big portion of that base you will make very dumb thing and that is what nobu is.
she is now among the best aoe buster looper without class advantage (buster ceiling is kinda bad so this is valuable) albeit it was a little costly, and if you built her dedicated for crit she is actually extreamly good now.
she is actually ideal now (a great blank sheet of paper), she is just raw that what make her bad in the first place but now it is what make her so good, if you put effort in that rawness the value it give out is worrth every penny.
@@maomao2623 I agree, she's my go to farmer on esp. on the tunguska sanc
I agree I want them to add the gudaguda nobu and Sumner Maou so I can have a full team of Nobus
Yeah the biggest problem with Avengers are their atrocious star weight, IIRC Berserkers have better star weight. Nobu mama having the at least star absorb would help her a lot
18:32 I agree to that the only thing Sigurd is better is that his wife is Brunhildr is summonable and have cute moments together
And then Kriemhild is now summonable and I love there moments more
How about Hijikata? Is he decent or bad? Him being a berserker is a double edge sword, low np gain/1 art card, his np is also niche (lower hp higher dmg) and also ST, hard to keep him barely alive. His skill is suitable for the niche but not that effective in practical use, his buster crit brave chain can go brrr in 1 turn but that's all.
I agree that jinako isn’t the best unit, but I love her nonetheless.
Qin Shi Huang is definitely a tank as well. I've cheesed so many fights with his kit, like it's hard to really design encounters he can't just walk all over if you use him correctly.
Also Orion being cheeked up in that art with Artemis is so funny.
with bunny arthoria the existence of the 10%np charge append skill helps the 40% np problem kinda, double koyonskaya helps
when i had her i usually used her for exp farming in the early game since i didnt need to think about class advantage
Hey thanks for breaking down or explain of the historical figures of the game of the characters in fate/extella link the French monarch charlamagne and his paladin which there equal or are they related each other in the myth or literature. I didn't play the game but i just watched the videos to watch the story. It's like RPG with action.
It's funny how how vlad was first mentioned, as he was my first 5 star and is still one of the first units i bring to challenge quest. You are 100% right with his flaws, because when i got nero bride, he got better, then tamamo appeared, and they became one of my favorite team comps in the game.
His review in itself is spot on, but, unless we're only considering NA, saying he's one of the 10 worst SSRs in the game is asnine when he works amazingly with just one Castoria.
@@engrel I think that in itself is the problem, vlad works best in a team, but not by himself. Compared to cu alter, who loves solo play. Personally i would of put Altera in his spot and taken him off the list because he still hits hella hard, and was the only arts zerk NA had till musashi
I don't even need to see the video to almost know my waifu is on it
All 5* are good but some are better! I've only got Vlad, Great Stone God, Orion, and Maou. You hit all the points on the head. I used to use Vlad and Orion all the time until I eventually got better options. I leveled but don't use Maou and Jinako because I've got Jeanne sisters, Dantes, and everyone has Mash...
As that guy whose first ssr was Arjuna I have some things to say, He compares a lot with Emiya, both having a mismatched deck of 3 arts cards and a buster NP and also having clairvoyance, but they're abismaly different on usability nowadays, Emiya post buffs is by far one of the best AOE archers, can loop with literally no help and has a huge crit potential, while also having at least one hard defense, on the other side, Arjuna post buffs still feels inferior no crit, no evade, no invul, no guts, nothing to keep him alive other than his heal and a 5 turn debuff immune (which is actually broken), the one thing that keeps arjuna from being good is that EVEN with an Arts brave chain he cant fully charge his np bar, the one buff he needs is an added np gain for his arts cards and/or some hard defense, he focuses to much on damage and other things that forgets about surviving while still doing low damage even with his atk stats being on the higher spectrum, also for some goddamn reason his anti divine niche works only on insta kill memes, not even an damage bonus, just insta kill, why do I even need an insta kill that I know wont work against bosses when a damage bonus would be ten times better and make me feel like he actually hits hard, as much as I like him for being my first ssr he has serious problems with his damage and the introduction of tametomo makes him feel even worse
Avenger Nobbu probably gets the biggest buff to her usability of anyone on this list: Nobukatsu. He's cheap to raise, cheap to field, and basically exists for the sole purpose of making Nobbus good. Archer and Zerker Nobbu both benefit from Katsu's skills, but it's pretty obvious that he was designed to help out Avenger Nobbu most of all. He brings:
A 30% Buster Resist Down to a single enemy
15 stars per turn for 3 turns, an 80% Nobunaga crit damage buff, and an 5000% Nobunaga star gather rate up
A self taunt that also triggers a heal when he dies
All combined with a self-sacrifice NP that charges the rest of the party's NPs, buffs their Buster cards, plus adds an extra Buster buff for all his Nobbu allies. Nobukatsu basically gives Demon King Nobunaga a whole new kit to work with while simultaneously being obtainable from the Friend Point gacha during the Yamatai-koku Guda Guda later this year for NA.
*100% crit damage
Now imagine having 2 nobukatsu.
I'm pretty excited, and i hope my friend point are enough to get him 10 times (2 NP5).
@@faber3813 I believe he'll actually be on rate up in the FP gacha, but 10 copies may be a stretch. Good luck, in any case!
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This is exactly the video I need as an excuse to find where you live
How is it that I've only been playing a little over a month and I have several units that have made this list and your worst SR list? Is this suffering from success?
Wait, Maou... After her buffs and the addition of Nobukatsu? She shouldn't be anywhere near that low really, she's definitely better than the likes of Altera or Bradamante. Also why is Vlad here? His skillset is pretty good and NP is amazing, he just suffers a bit due to bad internals, but his NP gain ends up being average with his NP gain up and arts resist down. He is genuinely very good even without meta teams
I absolutely cant relate with me not having any of those 5 stars in the list.
Oh wait i have Scheherazade, i remember leveling her up and as a final choice for those tower events but thats it.
I can attest to the bunny artoria pick. I got her for gssr and now I wish I went for berserkers.
i can counter it , melted the last penth cq using her as my main dps , she is goated in crit setup and her np do hit pretty hard when she has class advantages , she is downplayed a lot because she doesnt do enough dmg but bruh what unit do "enough" dmg on neutral and np1
@@morsayxd4441 you can do that with pretty much any servant. Doesn't change the fact that her kit is wack.
well here are my overview and ideas
-Vlad: I'm glad that someone notice that even with his Current Kit, the guy still burdened by the fact that 1. his NP Gain is piss poor without the S3 and 2. his Damage, i know you can stack Arts Resist Down but the problem with Debuff Damage buff is that they don't carried over to the next turn or having higher risk of getting cleansed than a Buff Removal, plus Galatea does what he does with less damage and she provide some longevity to the team. at bare minimum, they should improve his NP Gain to 0.6-0.7 since 0.5 on 2 Hit Arts is just horrible to look at
-Arjuna: Well for this guy i feel like his whole downfall is that his Mismatched Deck and his Upgraded Clairvoyance best asset is the permanent Debuff Immunity . If the Star Gen's 100% it would've helped him better since his AAA Chains has 11 Hits. either give him a 30% Charge on his S3, make the Damage Buff on his S3 3 Turns or both to make him more consistent and a candidate for Double Koyan
-Void: Yeah, i'm very dissapointed with this one, One of the few person to be connected with the Root and this is how they treated her. She's already a Good Staller with her high HP, Low Cooldown and High return Heal, Debuff Cleanse and Charge (despite poultry). so best i can see that would improve her is by either go down the offensive Route by making her S1's Arts Buff Last 3 Turns since with Passive that's already 46% Arts coupled with 30 or maybe 40% NP Gain so that she can spam better or give her a Defense Up with or Guts
-Ganesha: all things considered as a Neutral Face Tank, she is quite good at being that. problem being is that they design her to be a mock 2ndary Attacker when Moon Cancers aren't exactly the best for that with how they'll deal neutral to almost anything, her being an AoE Arts that can't farm efficiently with Castoria is just rubbing salt to injuries. They should've gone with having her S2 grants her additional Defense and her S3 sealing her own Skills instead of her targetted ally
-Artemis: for this mindless lovesturk, i'd say she's more outshadowed and outdated than being bad. in fights where Males can't get decked with Charm, she is a much safer option to bring with her NP has a complete stall debuff on it with Defense and Evade as a bonus, and technically speaking if the boss has Debuff Immunity, Robin would also lost his gimmick and Chloe is a dedicated Critter since her Projection is only for 1 Turn. She had her chance to get buff but of course they pick the old man with osteoporosis thinking he's not good enough. Now for how to improve her, I'd say give her an Arts, NP Gain, Charge, any one of those 3 and maybe make her Male Nuker last for 3 Turns
Okitan: Back then maybe, i'd consider her a mediocre servant, that's as a compliment. but as she is now, She's already a good AoE Buster that doesn't have to trade Survivability for Damage since her S3 got upgraded. if anything, she just lack some tools to actually get her going. Give her an NP Change between Quick or Buster and turned her into a Skadi Looper that's at least the same league as Achilles or give her a Crit Buff since she already make a good amount of Stars with her Face Card
Bunnytoria: Who the hell in the right mind thought it's a good idea to make a DPS with a same pathetic Atk Stats as Jeanne ? seriously even with Koyanskaya, there's hardly any reason to use her over someone like Cu Caster. If they even have any plan to fix her, They'd make her S2 work like Odysseus's S1 where it targetted the other 2 Servants giving that 1 Servant a guaranteed brave chain, for her S1 either they make the delayed 30% Attack up last 3 turns and trigger up to 3 times or just amp it up to 100% Atk since her attack is just that horrible
Sigurd: Yeah for this one, i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one that said that the first skill of his that needs fixing is his goddamn S2. Sure he has one of the highest Atk Stats of his Class but that doesn't warrant him a 6 Turn Downtime Damage Buff. as for his other 2 Skills well best i can say is that make either 1 or even both a Straight 3 Turn Duration for either utility or Damage. maybe add a Colour Specified Crit Damage for S1 like MHXA did but with a bigger scaling. altho i think Sigurd is still useful outside Dragon since his S1 and S3 can help one shot or take a majority of the target's HP while Siegfried is a straight up potato with his atrocious atk stat
Schez: Yeah, there's really no reason to use her since her other competition did what she has to do. Sieg farms more efficiently, Ana follows suit and Shikibu has a more versitale niche with even Mobs and bosses has Demonic in it. Her only difference is that she's tankier than the 3 but that alone doesn't justify enough to bring her. At bare minimum, the charm on S2 should at least applicable to all Enemies, The King Attack Down should at least be AoE for 1 Turn or 3 Turn if ST and her S1 Arts Buff should be 3 Turn
Maou: Yeah, the one thing i hate DW is that they sometimes have tendencies to have horrible implementation of Lore to Gameplay. Maou should've been one of the strongest Avenger albeit againts anything Mysterious or Divine while Jalter would've got killed by Lobo and got Demiya put a Bullet on her both on Shinjuku. and yet, here we are when the French Bumpkin is the strongest (Maybe 2nd with Taira) and the Feared General is the 2nd worst (Altho not currently speaking anymore). Anyway for her if she wants to make her into a Critter, make her S1 having a Star Absorb and a Crit Buff that works like her Atk Buff, or if they want to go God Slayer, make her NP Grants her Class Advantage againts Divine, Earth or Sky for 1 Turn
Vlad's performing really well with just one Castoria, he doesn't need buffs, though I'd welcome them, why not. He's extremely consistent if you can go as far as doing a Double Castoria + Tamamo team.
When it comes to single target arts looping with castoria, Vlad is actually considered one of not the best, so I don't see how he belongs on this list(especially when his post Castoria NP buff was considered). Like even if we reason every other servant was better than him, by virtue of his second NP buff literally making Galatea a mostly an extremely minutely worse Vlad(EXTREMELY MINUTE I have to emphasize that), logically she should always be ahead of Vlad on this list.
Shiki is harder to justify in a post Muramasa world, but she brings plenty of unique things in her kit(I recall some extreme silliness having been done with her measly 10% party wide charge on NP) be it the charge, heal or simply consistently debuff cleansing herself. Her problem is she is solid but hampered by a 1 hit Arts NP, but that alone still makes her more usable in general than plenty servants.
Schez can loop, that's pretty much it, she obviously has a lot of contenders for arts looping caster(her refund is only second to Sieg though) but that fact alone makes her prolly a better servant. We can add Artemis here too, she is a very outdated Servant, but at the same time her single target refund is actually very decent, and her only mistake is existing in the same class as Archuria, but again when compared to other single target units, especially non Arts Archers(okay fine just Moriarty) I feel she shouldn't quite hit top 10.
Now for who I think should 100% be here, and it pains me to say this, Summer Tamamo. Way too outdated damage, even when hitting super effective against males loses to two other 5 star buster lancers, has no charge or NP buff to in any way take advantage of the new Buster Supports, her kit is riddled with downsides that just aren't justified by the effect. Her one good thing is her decent Art card, but she has literally one of that. Lets not forget Bryn who has a very similar pool of super effective targets and has nearly as much base damage as Tamamo has super effective. She can do something close to impressive with a good brave chain that includes her arts card and has crit stars to absorb, if only with all that you didn't need to also cleanse the following stun as well to benefit from it.
Oh and I don't think with her current buffs Nobu is 1st place anymore, probably still on the list but ain't first for sure.
I know your pain, i got void shiki from a gssr as well ;_;
i love her though, she is gorgeous and i enjoy her animations a lot
I have Scheherazade at 90 and with several command codes and boosts to her cards. Despite everything I hear, she still is my main AOE DPS caster. Yes, I have Tamamo and Castoria that buff her and make her even stronger, but on her own, she's still a great unit. I had fun customizing her to be able to dish burn damage, making her a good team member for Yang Guifei. Even the "worst" servants can be turned into excellent units if you take your time to develop them into killing machines.
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