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  • In this video we build our first Sub-GHz LoRa gateway (step by step) and connect it to The Things Network (TTN). This gateway can be used to connect nodes with Arduino or ESP8266 and a Hope RFM95 board to the internet. This is what we will do in a later episode.
    Links:
    IC880a Concentrator: webshop.imst.de/ic880a-spi-lor...
    Newer gateway: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AtdHN0 (needs different software)
    Raspberry Pi 3: bit.ly/2kezAfZ
    Simple PCB: www.tindie.com/products/gnz/i...
    Complex PCB: github.com/ch2i/iC880A-Raspbe...
    github.com/ttn-zh/ic880a-gate...
    Remote Gateway Repository (json): github.com/ttn-zh/gateway-rem...
    How-to: github.com/ttn-zh/ic880a-gate...
    The Things Network: www.thethingsnetwork.org/
    Add a gateway: console.thethingsnetwork.org/...
    Check Status: staging.thethingsnetwork.org/...
    Gateway Map: www.thethingsnetwork.org/map
    Other concentrator (e.g. for US):
    kuziel.nz/notes/2016/08/lora-...
    github.com/mirakonta/lora_gat...
    If you want to support the channel and buy from Banggood: bit.ly/2jAQEf4 (no additional fee for you)
    / andreas-spiess-7331894...
    / spiessa
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  • @cymeriandesigns
    @cymeriandesigns 7 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Your videos are a valuable resource, and you have obviously taken a great deal of time and effort to make them high quality. Thank you for making them, it's much appreciated.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are welcome!

    • @amorporpassaros686
      @amorporpassaros686 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      to use the internet normally?
      navigate TH-cam, Facebook and other sites with this equipment within reach of the Sign?

    • @huntermcclovio4517
      @huntermcclovio4517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amorporpassaros686 too slow for that use.

  • @wduraes
    @wduraes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Andreas, your videos are BY FAR, the best resource on Arduino projects. Well explained, great videography and additional information helps as well. Oh and current content too, like this Lore series. Please keep up with the great work! Congratulations!!!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your nice words!

  • @asiw
    @asiw 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting again. You cover a lot in this video but it is really clear and easy to follow. I'm looking forward to the next bit before I decide if I'm going to build one.
    Best wishes
    Arthur

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Arthur Yarnell Wise decision. A colleague of mine also only married his girlfriend when she was pregnant ;-)

  • @robfel68
    @robfel68 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this LoRa tutorial. I hope many more will follow.

  • @rodrigoduarte501
    @rodrigoduarte501 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate your videos, I discovered the TTN on your channel and now i pretend build one gateway.

  • @martinsauerteig4882
    @martinsauerteig4882 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this great Video. It finaly initiated me to start a LoRa deepdive. Now we'll soon open a new TTN community and our first gateway is (nearly) working. Therefore one hint: If you use the "complex PCB" by ch2i you have to modify the start.sh because ttn-zh use GPIO25 (pin 22) for the SX_RST. The "complex PCB" use GPIO17 (pin 11).
    nano /opt/ttn-gateway/bin/start.shchange the line (obviously the first line) containingSX1301_RESET_BCM_PIN=25toSX1301_RESET_BCM_PIN=17

  • @gweliver
    @gweliver 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information tutorial. Looking forward to your sensor videos.

  • @AndreasLink
    @AndreasLink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always a really great and interesting video motivating to copy; I already watched multiple times. But even though it's some time older now, I would like to know if iC880A-SPI is still the best choice with an older Pi 3B or is there something newer, more state-of-the-art of same price? Are there any Pi4 suggestions or is that extra power not needed? If not, I would order an iC880A-SPI and refurbish an older Pi3B to build this gateway to place in my attic. I googled, but I always end here or at Pi3+iC880A-SPI setup, but maybe I overlooked something?
    Target: Build my own TTN Gateway, 8 channel, maybe with an ESP32 if existing and become part of the community.

  • @LeonAnavi
    @LeonAnavi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome work! Well done!

  • @scart07
    @scart07 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    professor you are the best by far!! congrats!

  • @maheshjoshi4893
    @maheshjoshi4893 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video Andreas... quite informative..

  • @yummyzoot
    @yummyzoot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love to watch your videos just to hear your Swiss voice :)

  • @mathieuroussel9357
    @mathieuroussel9357 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice step by step video, thanks for that ! I learned a lot.

  • @johnny83telbatalv
    @johnny83telbatalv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this useful video

  • @anis_vr6
    @anis_vr6 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always
    can't wait for the cheap gateway version

  • @jeffthom3155
    @jeffthom3155 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, Andreas...

  • @jamestate7851
    @jamestate7851 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I shall be waiting to see the video, I'm still working on building my project, around 40 feet up.++

  • @dl8cy
    @dl8cy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh my wish becomes true so fast - thank you very much!
    useful AND interesing :-) AND interesting :-) (till the very end)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your feedback. It is a good motivation.

  • @avejst
    @avejst 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are really up the beet. Nice 👍😀

  • @ozgur280
    @ozgur280 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the series gone blow up so cool

  • @martinkorinek3327
    @martinkorinek3327 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great videos. If possible, would be great if there will be some explanation about Spread Factor and how is that related to 8 or even 10 channels gateways. Also i found out there is quite interesting gateway RAK831, but have no experience with that so far.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SF is basically the time a signal takes to be transmitted. Each channel can be used with a different SF. And gateways allow even several SF on the same channel. RAK831 is in the Mail...

  • @AbeDillon
    @AbeDillon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are fantastic videos! It makes me smile a little every time you say, "The TTN Network". "The The Things Network Network" :P

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! BTW: TTN is a brand name. So maybe many people do no more know what it means, like IBM or SAP

    • @AbeDillon
      @AbeDillon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you're right. You do an excellent job of carefully explaining everything. Some people just explain an acronym once and by the middle of the series it gets very confusing. I don't think you did anything wrong. TTN is just an awkward name.

  • @hotvideos9996
    @hotvideos9996 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! Great video. I would like to see sensors using Lora. For example, with a temperature sensor and battery power.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you check my LoRa playlist?

  • @asaf158
    @asaf158 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just looooove your channel!

  • @guvenim
    @guvenim 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot, it was great video

  • @mumblic
    @mumblic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, it answer a lot of questions. Now let see how fast the community network will grow. ;-)

  • @LorenzoPatocchi
    @LorenzoPatocchi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andreas, great videos !
    May You spend few words on which is the best antenna to use for a good gateway ?
    Thank You (from Ticino :)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a difficult question. As a rule of thumb:
      1. It has to be a 868 MHz Antenna. This is not obvious, because from the outside, they look similar to a WiFi antenna and sometimes, you get a WiFi antenna instead of a right one.
      2. The bigger the better

  • @MrSamu1
    @MrSamu1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome these lora videos. Could you tell little bit about the gateway? Can I monitor how’s using my gateway (Just interested to see how popular my gateway would be) and can I somehow priories my on devises so they could always have some bandwidth? Looking forward for these low range communication videos because I also would like to establish my own gateway here in Finland :)
    I live in a city center but my parents live across a lake approximately 8 km away. It would be awesome to communicate across the lake and sent simple data back to my apartment so looking forward to see the range tests in a mixture environment.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      So far, I did not look into the management of the network, also for example, what happens if one channel is occupied, or your node is heard be several gateways. So, still a lot of questions...

  • @Ed19601
    @Ed19601 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ic880a sounds interesting. As i just wanted to connect a distant node to my home network and didnt see a need to connect to a lorawan service i used two RFM95 boards, the gateway being an rfm95 connected to an old arduino with w5100 ethernet shield (finally a purpose for that one). That arduino just pushes the received messages as mqtt on my home network. With an 'almost' LOS and simple antenna' s and abt 250 meter between sensor and gateway that works quite well

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      For a point-to point connection, using the bare module is a good idea. Maybe you could even use the cheaper RFM69 boards. A viewer built a whole network with them...

    • @Ed19601
      @Ed19601 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I have hesitated between the 69 and the 95 but as i understood (I might be wrong) the 69 only does 433 MHz. As I already have a lot of 433 Mhz traffic, I thought 868 to be a better choice, but indeed the 69 is euro's cheaper than the 95 (4 USD vs 7 USD/piece)
      The 95 (and probably the 69 as well) fit perfectly on an ESP866-12 BOB .
      I would have opted for the LoRa UNO shield that you have as well, but that uses pin 10 for CS and my ethernet shield does that too.
      Having said that... it is also possible to connect an RFM modyle with an ESP8266 and thus create a LoRa LAN gate
      Just for fun sake, i may try the RFM69 as well as I now understand the 69HW does 868 as well

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You get the -69 in 868. I have this one on the whisper board of my last video. But it cannot do Lora (see my video tomorrow...)

  • @henningbjrgo5776
    @henningbjrgo5776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for a great video! I watch much of your content 👌 I want to setup a LoRa gateway, and I'm wondering if I should use the same components today, or if the technology has evolved?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The technology still is the same, but you have much more choice by now. I would look at RAK wireless and chose their newest board.

    • @henningbjrgo5776
      @henningbjrgo5776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndreasSpiess Thanks! I've ordered the RAK2245 Pi Hat and look forward to make the gateway 👌

  • @baticzek8
    @baticzek8 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I'd like to see some video about range test of this module. Very good work.

  • @alejandroariaszuluaga4626
    @alejandroariaszuluaga4626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Andreas, great video! Do you know if this same procedure can be implemented in Latinamerica as well? Thanks in advance! Love your videos!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so. Maybe you go to the TTN page to see the coverage near you.

  • @mandarnagarkar5983
    @mandarnagarkar5983 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andreas Thank you for such a great tutorial. I just wanted to know if we can have LoRa gateway without TTN Network?.
    i.e. Does LoRa work with our own server without needing to use TTN. Also please let me know , if you have any blog or Tutorial
    Links
    for Creating a Node and Gateway without TTN network

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you watch today's video?

  • @naveennoelj
    @naveennoelj 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andreas, excellent video. Any plans to do videos on VLC (Visible Light Communication)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, not yet. Maybe in the future...

  • @Artichoked1
    @Artichoked1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. This series has been so useful for me learning about LoRaWAN. I'm thinking of using the technology to build a modular weather station system. But where can i buy an iC880A that isnt like $150?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should find other gateways not. But they are not cheap if they have to be outdoor.

  • @Laflx
    @Laflx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andreas, thank you for another great video! Would this gateway work for helium mining?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Helium is different and it will not run. The included crypto currency into their solution and you have to buy their stuff.

  • @BiswajitSahu_bisudw
    @BiswajitSahu_bisudw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Sir, i am a huge fan of your work.. I often see your videos and keep myself updated with new technology. I belong to a CS background with basic knowledge in electronics.
    I want to setup a LoRa network point to point within 3km of radius but its surrounded by various buildings. Can you please recommend me which module to use and which antenna will be appropriate

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you watch my LoRa videos about range and direct connection

  • @MatthewTaylorAu
    @MatthewTaylorAu 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. The soldering mods are a bit fiddly. I'm leaning towards paying a little extra for a more complete design.
    Thanks so much for the info.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many things in life get easier if you practice ;-)

  • @MDFRESCUER
    @MDFRESCUER 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video.

  • @jhuisman8338
    @jhuisman8338 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andreas, Thanks for the video. I was wondering whether you would normally set up your application (user GUI/control/dashboard) on a different server and use the TTN server as a conduit from your LoraWan gateway to TTN? For instance, I have a ThingsBoard service running on the web that accepts data and allows analytics and display, setting up web-based dashboard etc. If I had a script that passed on to that service?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can access your messages on the TTN page through MQTT or web services.

  • @aldaxhafa7079
    @aldaxhafa7079 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,
    Great job about the video. I have a question: Do you know if there is away to stop the connection of the gateway from ttn. Which of this steps followed should be removed or modify ?
    Thank you in advance!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would just switch it off. And then, you can set it privately that nobody else sees it on the TTN platform. Or you delete it there.

  • @TheThingsNetworkCommunity
    @TheThingsNetworkCommunity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andreas! Great to see all the awesome content about using LoRaWAN and The Things Network.
    We’ve released a new version of our network server, and we'd like to work with you to refresh some old content so it aligns with The Things Stack (the old network server is being sunset). What's the best way to reach you?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is already in planning. Wienke has my email address.

  • @abdelilahbouslama2098
    @abdelilahbouslama2098 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    i want thank you for this wonderful tutorials.
    i have question about the possibility to use this gateway in north of africa?
    thank for your help

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have a internet connection: Yes. However, I do not know about the legal situation (if this matters)

    • @abdelilahbouslama2098
      @abdelilahbouslama2098 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      LORA network is not installed in north africa. we have internet of course.
      thank a lot for your help

  • @debihsofiane3229
    @debihsofiane3229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @heck0216
    @heck0216 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Andreas, I have seen your LoRa related videos and are very informative. Thank you.
    My question for you is, would you please recommend a LoRa Starter Kit? I want to get into testing it. I can build the gateway and nodes (thanks!) but I also need a decent portal to display data and configure triggers/alerts and that will be a time challenge for me hence I’d like to get a vendors kit, connect it to TTN and used the vendors portal. Thank you for the time taken to evaluate my question

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      TTN provides some interfaces to get the data. Many of my viewers use node-red to get these messages and do something with them. Node-red has prefabricated noes to connect to TTN.

    • @heck0216
      @heck0216 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Andreas. I've done a quick research/test based on your advise and Node-red is the answer I was looking for at the current stage of my project. As it has been said repeatedly on this channel, your contribution to the community is a valuable source and very much appreciated.

  • @waelfarhatfullstackdevelop8467
    @waelfarhatfullstackdevelop8467 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the video , Is there a video about setting up a personal LoRaWAN network you can point me at,I don't want to use ttn

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not know of such a video.

  • @happysoul4024
    @happysoul4024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are the best...

  • @dhandesharayu
    @dhandesharayu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andreas,
    Great tutorial!
    I'm also planning to use ic880a-spi for my gateway but concentrator work's on European frequency range (863-870MHz) and I want to use it between 865-867MHz frequency which is the Indian frequency range.
    Will the same concentrator can be used for my required frequency?
    If not,
    Can you please help me using it between 865-867MHz frequency range?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you go to the TTN forum and search for Indian users. There are newer models out there by now (like form RAK wireless).
      The frequency is selected by the software. The hardware just has to support the right band (like 868, 915, or 433MHz.

  • @andrewlong9388
    @andrewlong9388 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Thanks for the video. Is there an interface PCB for the Raspberry Pi 4?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The PCB should be compatible. But the Pi4 gets quite hot and it is not easy to get the heat removed with any additional boards on it.

  • @hansvink9178
    @hansvink9178 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andreas,
    First of all thanks for sharing so many video’s, it is always a pleasure to watch and to learn about technics and (for me) new products!
    Following your instructions I’ve build the gateway with the same backplane from Tindie and the RPi 3. Unfortunately it turned out the gateway does not work and I see errors in the log, it looks there is a problem to start the concentrator:
    Jan 20 18:36:26 ttn-gateway ttn-gateway[2366]: ERROR: [main] failed to start the concentrator
    SPI on the RPi is enabled and I’ve checked the soldering of the backplane and it is okay. But measuring shows an issue, iC880a pin 22 (GND) is not connected to RPi pin 6 via the backplane. It even looks pin 22 is not connected to any other part of the backplane. This is strange because the green LED of the concentrator turns on when powering the RPi. Is pin 6 on your backplane connected to pin 22? Are you known with this issue or problems with the backplane? Do you have a suggestion to solve this?
    Best regards, Hans.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I do not know this problem. But the TTN forum is the best place to search for help. There the specialist are very helpful.

    • @hansvink9178
      @hansvink9178 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Gonzalo, from the Tindie backplane, was so kind to give me some great advice and now it works.

  • @TECHWITHGAYAN
    @TECHWITHGAYAN 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir, can we do commercial things using this LoRa gateway ?
    your videos are awesome and learned lot from those :)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are commercial LoRa WAN providers in certain countries and Sigfox is a similar, commercially available, technology

  • @danmyself5341
    @danmyself5341 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks !

  • @IncaTrails
    @IncaTrails 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was inspired by your video and getting ready to order parts. The IC880a transmits at 868MHz and I need 915Mhz since I am in the USA. Can you recommend a US friendly concentrator? Thanks and I have been really enjoying your videos!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, because I have no experience. But maybe you go to the TTN network forum. There, you find some knowledgeable people..

    • @xennelul
      @xennelul 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are working on 915mhz

  • @spreeuferberlin
    @spreeuferberlin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thx

  • @afsanehakhbari8880
    @afsanehakhbari8880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you, great video, Do we need to change reset pin in start.sh ?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do no more remember the details. This is quite an old video :-(

    • @afsanehakhbari8880
      @afsanehakhbari8880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndreasSpiess thank you, Do you suggest using IC880A-spi as lora concentrator ? I asked this question because this video is old and I wanted to know if ic880a-spi is still good choice

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You get now newer products from RAKwireless or Heltec. I would go for one of those newer products. Maybe you also want to use a ready-made one.

    • @afsanehakhbari8880
      @afsanehakhbari8880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndreasSpiess Thank you dear andreas for the reply. I am using Senscap lorawan gateway, I want to know if I use dragino lora shield (RFM95(W)) +arduino uno for the lora end device would be a good choice? would it be connected to my gateway?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you use the right software all RFM95 work (check that they support the same frequency range). Most people today use TTGO or Heltec boards for their projects, BTW.

  • @chuxxsss
    @chuxxsss 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    neon light is a good lightning arrester.

  • @davidbismark2770
    @davidbismark2770 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to have the antenna on an extension or have a longer antenna so that I can place the antenna on the roof and the boards inside my office? Or do I definitely have to place the whole thing on the roof?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The law limits the radiation at the antenna. So, if you have a long cable with losses, you can compensate this with a bigger antenna. See my first LoRa video about cable losses...

  • @mikhaild1113
    @mikhaild1113 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Andreas,
    Thank you very much for the video! But I have one point unclear.
    The Lora frequency is unlicensed and there is no collision detection/avoidance in the protocol. What if many commercial and many private solutions were installed on the same area? What if the number of end-devices were millions or billions? Even different channels and spreading factors may not help in these circumstances.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you will have collisions.

  • @user-xo3sx9wd7b
    @user-xo3sx9wd7b 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this video. I am not sure about the ic880a(868MHz), could I use ic880a as gateway of LoRa network in the Country that is in ASIAN countries ?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      AFAIK Asian countries use 433 MHz. It depends on your laws which frequencies you are allowed to use (if you care).

    • @user-xo3sx9wd7b
      @user-xo3sx9wd7b 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andreas Spiess, Thank you for your reply !

  • @pierreamey9660
    @pierreamey9660 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Andeas, Thanks a lot for this video (and all other). I ordered and I got the material. I connected the part and I have now my first gateway ready to be configured (I am novice).
    I have a couple of basic questions. On the IC880 board, can I solder a SMA connector close to the ufl connector? I noticed the hole for a SMA. I supposed, the holes
    are for a SMA connector if we want to use it instead of a ufl? On the ICST backplane there is like a DC Barrel Power Jack to power the board. What's the max Power/Amperage for the modules? Can I connect a 7.5V/2.3Ah lion battery, or a 3.7V/2.6Ah battery to power all modules incl Raspberry board, instead of using a usb cable? Grüss von Genf!!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Pierre Amey I am no specialist in this matter and did only use it exactly as described. So pls ask the supplier your questions. He knows it much better than me.

    • @pierreamey9660
      @pierreamey9660 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andreas Spiess Danke schöne für Ihre schnell Antworte und schöne abend

  • @elishaul4125
    @elishaul4125 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    First of all thank you for investing in videos, I want to build a gateway but in my country the frequency is 433Mhz, Do you know what product I should use? I'm sorry about English, Many thanks eli

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I do not know. But go on the homepage of Thethingsnetwork. You will find help there in the forum

  • @MehrdadGivehchi
    @MehrdadGivehchi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andreas
    Do you have a recommendation for a concentrator that operates at frequency suited for USA? Many thanks

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mehrdad Givehchi No. I would go to the forum of the TTN and ask an American guy

  • @kumarnarendra3594
    @kumarnarendra3594 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your great Videos .. Could you please create a video on creating IoT cloud server and creating IoT gateway , data transfer to cloud server using node-red MQTT ?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would the whole scenario do and what do you want to do with the data in the cloud? There are already MQTT cloud servers available. I used them in earlier videos about MQTT.

    • @kumarnarendra3594
      @kumarnarendra3594 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir.. Many thanks for your precious time !! Instead sending data to TTN cloud , I would like to send it to my personal domain. And to connect LoRa gateway to cloud server , I would like to use MQTT but using Node-Red as to minimize the coding efforts .

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you have to build and program your own gateway and web service. This is why I like the work of the TTN guys. TTN is only the transport and you easily can connect your node-red to their infrastructure (I did it in one of my videos) to store the data.

  • @Great_XicoZe
    @Great_XicoZe ปีที่แล้ว

    Great channel!!
    One question: can I operate 868mhz or 433mhz in Europe? What's the difference? Which one do you recommend?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both are allowed. But LoRaWAN is on 868

    • @Great_XicoZe
      @Great_XicoZe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndreasSpiess
      I bought 3 lilygo ttgo on 433. On meshtastic I can only operate between my units, right?. No benefit from others mesrtastic devices that are using 868?.... My big mistake.

  • @brusovse
    @brusovse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shall we aspect this video upgrade with new Basic Station tutorial in the future?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Recently, I made a V3 video. No need to go to Basic station for the moment.

  • @madhukollavar4733
    @madhukollavar4733 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice information ..can I know how much it will cost..? including both arduino and gateway..

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You find the link to the sources in the comment. Here, it was about 300 dollars. I presented also a cheaper version in one of my videos.

  • @Gianlu83le
    @Gianlu83le 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andreas,
    first of all I Would like to thank you for your videos, they are very interesting and professional.I spend a lot of time on them. Very thanks!
    I need to put in place some LORA senders and one LORA receiver (that should be connected to the internet). I'll have a server on the cloud that should be retrive the data and process it.
    So, on the senders I'm using Arduino and I'll add a Dragino shield for LORA.
    I have a doubt about the receiver: my idea is to make it using a Raspberry PI with a LORA hat. I also saw that on the market there are some ready LORA Gateway (like for example the same Dragino LORA-WAN gateway). My (probably stupid) quetion is: what is the advantage to make the gateway using the RaspberryPI instead of to buy a ready to use Dragino gateway?
    If I'm not wrong the prices are almost aligned.
    Thanks!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can either buy a Gateway or build it yourself. Both work the same as long as you use 8-Channel gateways. They are more expensive than single-channel models.

  • @cliftonbrown911
    @cliftonbrown911 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andreas,
    I'm curious if the Loran Gateway could be powered by solar. Would you consider checking the amperage use for the gateway during a transmission.
    Thank you.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      As you see, it is placed outside now. So, I cannot measure power consumption. Because it is only allowed to send 1% of time, transmission is not the issue for solar considerations. I think, the Rasbi is the biggest consumer.

    • @cliftonbrown911
      @cliftonbrown911 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your contribution, a big help. There are some interesting ideas on the TTN Forum regarding inexpensive solar solutions. I'm going to hack a small solar pathway lamp to see if it could be used after disabling the leds.

    • @cliftonbrown911
      @cliftonbrown911 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for all your help. For the moment I'm looking for a solar alternative for just the node and maybe a node repeater if I can find such a device. I'm thinking a gateway might be closer to a power source or maybe powered via ethernet.

    • @cliftonbrown911
      @cliftonbrown911 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      This product should provide a great benchmark if it works. www.kickstarter.com/projects/trystenergy/light-energy-iot-modules-ble-lora-without-batterie#

  • @e1Pr0f3ss0r
    @e1Pr0f3ss0r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to use LoRa module with RC planes?
    Can we replace it with NRF module?

  • @TheKaka129
    @TheKaka129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro i fucking love you, these tutorial are amazing

  • @dougmanatt4317
    @dougmanatt4317 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently got my first LoRa radios, perhaps it is a little far from California to reach you gateway!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the wrong frequency in addition...

  • @lauraguijarro3855
    @lauraguijarro3855 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect video, but How can you now your EUI from the code ??

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually, it should be displayed in your terminal.

  • @michel3329
    @michel3329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Andreas, would you consider your used hardware (besides the Pi) to be still up to date? Video is almost 3 years old, and I am about to get a gateway running.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Later I built a gateway using RAK wireless hardware. But I have no overwiew anymore as I do not need more gateways... You get now also more and more readymade devices.

  • @BYAZIT
    @BYAZIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please give me update how can I create my own gateway with ttgo?

  • @Vishal-nt6rj
    @Vishal-nt6rj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,
    Is dragino LG01 is only receiver(RX)? Can it send (TX) data to microcontroller which is connected to SX1276 transreceiver?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      All gateways can send and receive

  • @dsmith004
    @dsmith004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does a higher level protocol provide the retransmit capability missing in the physical layer?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. LoRaWAN uses a so-called "Aloha protocol" and usually has no back channel.

  • @yi-siangciou9119
    @yi-siangciou9119 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andreas !
    I just test the transmission distance with my Arduino/Pi/sx1276 single channel module!
    What I want to build is a single channel gateway with raspberry Pi.
    But that means the problem will show up as you mention in 1:02
    Did you test that how many devices can contain with IC880a?
    Is that mean it will no need to concern about collision with IC880a? (because of multi-channel )
    The idea of mine is using Lora's "channel activity detect" to wake every nodes to achieve power saving and avoid collision.
    Thanks for reading above message. Have a good day!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. LoRa protocol and Gateways are made for around 1000 nodes per gateway. But of course, this depends heavily on the frequency of transmission and the length of the message. Collisions cannot be avoided, but should be included in these calculations.

    • @yi-siangciou9119
      @yi-siangciou9119 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for reply Andreas.
      So your system can basically contain 8 devices in 8 different channel.
      Did you do some mechanism to avoid collision?
      Does your system contain completely LoRaWAN function ?
      Thanks!

  • @rollandjones8777
    @rollandjones8777 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andreas, #115 is done.

  • @AdnanAdnan-yg5gl
    @AdnanAdnan-yg5gl ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear mr Andreas. Thx for an excellent video. Just to ask you, what components (from which vendors) I can buy to build my own gateway (for my smart agriculture project)? Also, for example, If I buy Arduino MKR WAN 1310 (LoRa) and connect SIM800l (for GPRS internet connection) on it, will I then get an LoRaWAN gateway in total?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you watch my other videos about LoRaWAN. Then you will see that you need a LoRaWAN gateway and many LoRaWAN sensors. You find them also in your country, I think.
      This is an old video and currently, it is better to buy a gateway than to build one.

    • @AdnanAdnan-yg5gl
      @AdnanAdnan-yg5gl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndreasSpiess ok. Thank you on your replay. But ofcourse it is still possible to build my own Gateway? For example, as You described in your video?

    • @AdnanAdnan-yg5gl
      @AdnanAdnan-yg5gl ปีที่แล้ว

      I forgot to ask, if I decide to buy LoRaWAN GW, which one to buy?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdnanAdnan-yg5gl Just buy the one you need (indoors or outdoors, for example) and which is available in your country. They all have the same functionality if they are TTN compliant.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdnanAdnan-yg5gl Yes. However you have to watch the migration video to TTN V3.

  • @DavidFowlerEngineer
    @DavidFowlerEngineer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ask about lightning protection because I do have a LORA gateway up and I need to protect it. So far I've been lucky. I wonder if there is a ready made thing that I could insert in the antenna cable. I'm sure it would need a large ground lead, might have a gas switch inside to shunt the energy...

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I understand. From what I understand so far is, that you can protect your antenna or your cables towards the gateway. I think, I will not try to protect the antenna, because the chance that even a protected concentrator will survive a lightning attack is small. An I plan to use WLAN for connection. Then, I just have to protect the power supply. And with a solar panel, also this would be obsolete and because of lacking ground reference, the chance for a lightning attach would be minimal. Lightning searches the fastest way to earth...

    • @RubenLensvelt
      @RubenLensvelt 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andreas Spiess That's a charming solution.

    • @DavidFowlerEngineer
      @DavidFowlerEngineer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      In my case, the antenna is mounted on a commercial building with some LMR cable running to a Multi-Tech concentrator. Everything is powered from mains. A direct strike is basically the end. But the smaller precursor voltage spikes might be shunted to protect the hardware.

    • @nicklaspersson4687
      @nicklaspersson4687 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhapps this will help:stormhighway.com/protection.php

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comment!

  • @jadeanthonydelapena2242
    @jadeanthonydelapena2242 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome presentation sir. I have a question:
    What is the use of registering a newly created gateway to TTN? I have searched the map in the TTN and unfortunately, there is no registered gateway in our area. So supposed I have successfully created a gateway and register it to TTN, does it mean other people can freely use it? Thank you in advanced. Your tutorials are very informative and useful indeed :)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The concept of TTN is, that everybody can freely use all gateways.

    • @jadeanthonydelapena2242
      @jadeanthonydelapena2242 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have searched the iC880A and read its datasheet. One of its key features as shown in the datasheet is its Frequency Band is 868MHz. My location is in the Philippines (Asia). Is it still ok to use this? Thank you

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Asian countries usually use 433 MHz for LoraWan. Ask your question in the TTN forum. There, you will find a specialist.

  • @PhG1961
    @PhG1961 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    TRUE !

  • @danmyself5341
    @danmyself5341 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering. What is the maximum distance and throughput of all the devices you have tested gave most performance? in your experience

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you watch my videos in the LoRa playlist about range (wardriving and world record)

    • @danmyself5341
      @danmyself5341 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great, Thanks !

  • @youngkevinsmith
    @youngkevinsmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 58 secs does Lora have any collision detection mechanism? No it just sends and hopes.... aloha system
    Tks useful

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is an aloha system. Usually that is no problem where it is used. But of course, you have to know what you do.

  • @karanamaditya5118
    @karanamaditya5118 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, Iam testing lora communication by using RN2483 PICTAIL LoRa module, i bought two of those lora modules can they communicate directly without any gateway in between? please reply ASAP , thankyou in advance

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a video with LoRa point-to-point connection

  • @garrypkeogh
    @garrypkeogh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    And so to the Raspberry Pi you mention at about 10:00 minutes in this video. Not only has a nice compact Pi Zero been updated to include native Wireless networking but it is available just outside LoRa range in Nederlands! Here is a link to an €11 option for you Andreas!
    I will most likely use a Raspberry Pi Zero W at least as an experiment on my own house. I have easy access to the roof and would employ a single 220vac connection to the house as you did in the end. I have very strong WiFi at my gateway site.
    Thanks and keep up the good work Andreas!
    www.kiwi-electronics.nl/raspberry-pi-zero/raspberry-pi-zero-w

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the link! 11 Euro is a good price. But I have already purchased one a few month ago. And because so far, I did not do a lot with Raspberries, it is still laying around... And good luck with your Gateway. I think, using 220 and Wi-Fi is the easiest way if possible.

  • @isaacmariotupacdavila781
    @isaacmariotupacdavila781 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I have a question.In my country the band that we are available to use is 923MHz. The concentrator that you use works in the band of 868Mz and I looked in the web and I think the IC880a only has that frequency available. So , would you recommend me a concentrator that works in 923MHz ?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you go to the forum of TTN. There you might find somebody from your country to ask how it is done.

    • @isaacmariotupacdavila781
      @isaacmariotupacdavila781 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndreasSpiess Good idea! Thanks!

  • @deangreenhough3479
    @deangreenhough3479 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Morning Andreas

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dean Greenhough Good morning Dean

  • @eddake
    @eddake 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Mr.Spiess
    Can we connect gateway with ardunio?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you watch the LoRa Introduction video?

  • @jadenbehr2115
    @jadenbehr2115 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to build a LoRa gateway with an STM32 Nucleo board and an I-Nucleo-LRWAN1 expansion board?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why not? If you get the software for the board.

  • @styleauto1025
    @styleauto1025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi can you used this for the HNT network?

  • @mesbahyoussef2618
    @mesbahyoussef2618 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi !
    thank you for your Job !
    I have just one probleme why I receive data every minute and not in reall time
    please there's some configuration to fix that?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should get the data when you send it. So, maybe your node only sends a message every minute. There are also limitations on how many messages you are allowed to send per day.

    • @mesbahyoussef2618
      @mesbahyoussef2618 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you for helping me it was the fact of duty-cycle! it work very good now i can send message every 5 second yeey :D

    • @pakarney
      @pakarney 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andreas Spiess yes I am sending every 5 min

    • @pakarney
      @pakarney 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am abled to get full decrypted messages

    • @pakarney
      @pakarney 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am running gateway from afternoon still decoding without crashing

  • @yashasky5697
    @yashasky5697 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello! Can we replace the IC880a board by an UART lora module to implement a gateway for private network?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you watch my video about a single channel gateway?

  • @anpr
    @anpr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tommy and lora were lovers

  • @DavidFowlerEngineer
    @DavidFowlerEngineer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please describe the lightning protection.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not understand a lot about that. I just know, that it is important...

    • @nomadic_rider42
      @nomadic_rider42 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Fowler it's probably a copper rod attached to the housing, and to the ground on the other side.

    • @michaelecker448
      @michaelecker448 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andreas Spiess 😋famous last words... hahaha...

    • @amorporpassaros686
      @amorporpassaros686 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      to use the internet normally?
      navigate TH-cam, Facebook and other sites with this equipment within reach of the Sign?

  • @JDeubler
    @JDeubler 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm struggling to find a 915MHz concentrator. If I buy one that isn't the one you used in the video will I struggle to configure it with the same Github files?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the TTN forum, there are people which use other concentrators. Maybe you search there for one which is supported in your area.

    • @JDeubler
      @JDeubler 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andreas Spiess I found this which I think is an alternative to the concentrator for US bands. Do you think I can use this instead and get away with the same Github Files or no? sandboxelectronics.com/?product=lorago-port-multi-channel-lorawan-gateway#Resources

    • @JDeubler
      @JDeubler 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andreas Spiess my real question would be even If I use a different board and get it registered with TTN can I still use your video on how to create nodes?
      Thanks a ton!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not know it. Very important is that you have the needed support and somebody already have connected it to LoRaWAN
      There is also a Chinese one from RAK which was discussed in the forum.

  • @ujjainwalataher1322
    @ujjainwalataher1322 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw your video, many times one thing that is uncleared is how can i configure the remote gateway settings ? if i configure the file with the .json extension.. where am i supposed to put that file ???

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The link is in the description (github.com/ttn-zh/gateway-rem...)

    • @ujjainwalataher1322
      @ujjainwalataher1322 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndreasSpiess I did everything mentioned, but i get error "failed to start the concentrator" I am using 5v,1.6A adapter. Is this the adpater issue ? my ttn console always shows not connected. can you help me with this ? Hope to hear from you soon
      Thank You

  • @vishaalvishaal2118
    @vishaalvishaal2118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Andreas, Is this a multichannel gateway with changing SF?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All multichannel gateways can deal with all SFs

  • @yogeshyogi4688
    @yogeshyogi4688 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    @andreasspiess ......can LoRa be used for Machine2Machine connection ? if yes..... is there a purpose to connect my gateway to the cloud??

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. Lora is a physical connection. So, you can connect whatever devices you want.
      2. The advantage of Lorawan (including gateway is, that it is one to many, you can bridge big distances using also the internet, you have a MQTT interface.

  • @KerrQuevedo
    @KerrQuevedo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    HI! At 7:22, what value is to be put for ref_altitude? Thanks

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I remember right: The altitude of your gateway. Maybe not very important.